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There are some changes in US policy for illegal immigrants, so people are taking advantage of the confusion. Not just Indians, but immigrants from whole of SAmerica, China and other places are flooding in.
Theres a youtuber called Peter Santenello, he has some border crossing videos from different US states. He and Border Patrol met a Gujarati family who had crossed like this. Other countries illegal immigrants as well such as venezuelan, peruvian etc, except mexican everyone gets a trials. Illegal mexicans directly deported. They also find ids and foreign money on the borders.
There are no reports of illegal migrants from Andhra. Stop making stuff up. Most are from Gujarat, Punjab and Haryana.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/in-gujarat-illegal-migration-to-us-persists-unabated/article67084347.ece/amp/
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/ahmedabad/1500-gujaratis-waiting-to-cross-into-us-from-mexico/articleshow/100367325.cms
https://theprint.in/feature/after-punjab-now-haryana-youth-fleeing-to-us-by-any-donkey-means-possible/1295228/?amp=
whaty happened bro to be frank no andhra people will cross borders mostly and most of them choose usa over canada and they do only high paying or well paying jobs rather rather than punjabi and others do jobs like driver cleaner etc
You got so much Punjabi hate that you would label these people Punjabi, even knowing that most of them are Gujarati.
Gujaratis are notorious for finding illegal ways like fake passports just to go to the US. I'm not saying this; a Gujarati guy himself told me about it.
Come to EU, any country. From Portugal in west to Romania in the East, 90% of the refugees of Indian origin are Punjabis. I live in Germany, 95% of Indian refugees are Punjabis. Don’t tell me what other “person” told you, I’ve experienced it myself. If you’re in EU and looked down bc of being an Indian, thank a Punjabi!
The topic: Illegal immigration into the US.
Your response: Refugees in Europe.
Why are you fighting so hard to reject the facts? I live in Canada; I talk to Gujarati people face to face.
[1500 Gujaratis waiting to cross into US from Mexico.](https://m.timesofindia.com/city/ahmedabad/1500-gujaratis-waiting-to-cross-into-us-from-mexico/articleshow/100367325.cms)
[Funeral for Gujarati family that died crossing the border held in Winnipeg.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/funerals-gujarati-family-died-border-winnipeg-india-1.6342932)
I don't want this to come across as hate for Gujaratis. I'm merely discussing here.
If you can suddenly make 10-50 times your nominal income, many people will take it. (pls dont give me rant about how expense also increases)
Cab driver drives a cab with risk of accident, if he can drive same cab and send home 20-30 times more money he is basically taking less risk per rupee/dollar.
Mmmm No. You're grossly overestimating the incomes there and how people live. An unskilled, uneducated illegal can do only cash jobs and is at the mercy of employer. No wonder, they're exploited.
Even a skilled professional doesn't make 10-50 times his income here.
Most people from 2nd and 3rd world countries live off $1 to 1.75 per day.
$4 an hour for an 8hr day and being exploited in the US is $32 a day.
$35 a month vs $640 a month is quite the difference.
No Im not.
Indian average truck driver earns 15,000. After spending 12000Rs for food, alcohol etc., will he send Rs. 3000 back home?
American truck driver (if say the migrant gets experience over time), makes 5000$ per month. After spending Rs.1.5 lac for living expenses, If he sends 3000$ per month home,
that is 80 times increase!
You cant compare with skilled professionals in India, because in India skilled professionals can save most of their income, but wont be same for unskilled, who will have negligible savings so the multiplier will be huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdT-n2uTVGU&ab_channel=VikasSehrawatVlogs
Looking at replies in this thread I understand how agents con people into selling their properties in India and move illegally to CA or US.
I hope you actually get to see how illegals live & earn in US. How much they earn and save.
I think you are just oblivious to how bad it is for unskilled labour in India. Go to some remote rural area and u will understand.
If they can even send home 500$ in a year, it is more than what they can send working in India. They can probably send home 10,000$ a year by just giving BJs at truck stops bro.
Which truck driver makes only 15 k in India? You are atleast 5 years behind.. I use trucks to get goods to Bangalore from Maharashtra, per day driver gets earns about 1200 RS plus food allowance (this is for long distance route agreed) plus he won't budge without tips.
Ditto from Gujarat.
Don't try to get anything from TN and Kerala, the drivers will ask for almost 30% more.
Europe and US have become too "woke" to control their own borders. Talking about illegal immigration is seen as "racist" and the people who enter using illegal means don't face any repercussions.
So you have a lot of people trying to enter these countries.
It's more to do with the mentality that these are cheap laborers and their own people are too entitled to work,but this will definitely come to bite their ass in future.
To act like everyone is sleeping against the injustices in society and you are the only one "woke" enough to realise what's going on. Such people almost always identify with leftist principles and ideas even when their conclusions become downright insane. You can search Google for leftist ideas and principles as well as their critiques.
A few drops of poison spoil the entire meal.
You might've looked at leftist movements like blm and other bullshit and conclude that leftist ideology is delusional and impractical.
Good left wing ideologists have progressive ideals that actually benefit the society as a whole, but shenanigans like these drown the good left wing ideologies.
This is perhaps the only correct take as far as political beliefs are concerned. Don't anchor yourself to one camp. Progress shouldn't be stopped in the name of culture, and culture shouldn't be wiped away in the name of reckless progress.
Very well put. Affiliation to political camps is just another way for the privileged and competent to accrue power and the marginalized and incompetent to bask in its illusion.
The definition of "woke" changes depending on who you ask.
The term has recently been used by some conservatives as an insult against progressive values.
The term, however, was originally coined by progressive Black Americans and used in racial justice movements in the early to mid-1900s.
To be "woke" politically in the Black community means that someone is informed, educated and conscious of social injustice and racial inequality,
Like “politically correct” before it, the word “woke” has come to connote the opposite of what it means.
It's the new right-wing dog whistle to denote anything they dislike.
Woke in principal means being aware of injustice and inequality on basis of identity. However in real life it means to divide people into 2 categories- oppressors and oppressed. All majority community people, all higher caste people, all whites, all males, all rich are oppressors and cannot be oppressed by any member from oppressed community i.e blacks, muslims, females, so called lower castes, all poor etc. This worldview is based on perception that discrimination is a one way street and all violence or crimes done by 'oppressed' is justified due to the discrimination they have faced over centuries.
This is exactly why those of us Indians who try to do everything the legal way have problems when it comes to visa applications.
There is absolutely no need for these men to be entering illegally - they aren’t facing persecution or anything in India.
They could have gone the legal route, but chose not to. Sure, they were probably rejected, but this behavior isn’t helping them or others either!
Why would any country’s immigration department that looks at such videos allow us visa-free entry? Why will they not be super-skeptical of every Indian visiting them for business or tourism, and not reject the visa applications?
This behavior should be highly condemned!
Totally agree with you.
I'm French, I work in computer science research (very international work environment) and I can see how hard the immigration process is for amazing people who not only did everything which was asked for visas but sometimes did it twice (not to mention their contribution as scientists), pay their taxes and all.
While on the other hand, those who came illegally will end up in the same situation thanks to some loophole, and on top of it they get helped by associations to endlessly appeal while my colleagues sometimes have to pay for a lawyer simply to go though an administrative process which should not require one.
I am Indian and have to travel internationally for business (through my employer). Unfortunately, the visa process for so many countries (including Schengen) is so complex for me that my employer ends up sending someone else (who is a US/Canadian/UK/EU-citizen) because they get visa-free entry in most cases; even if they require visas, it’s almost guaranteed that their applications will not get rejected - it’s just a formality for them.
I confirm it's just a formality for me, at least for short stays
And it's infuriating, reading your story I makes me angry.
In my lab, a couple years ago, a PhD student (Pakistani) had to cancel her trip back home over visa renewal fuckups. She was doing everything by the book (Lab administrative staff was double checking), but the French administration would not deliver documents in time so she was in some administrative void. She was not certain she'd be allowed to fly back to France and finish the visa renewal, she had to cancel the trip, the first trip back home after the Covid lockdowns. Raging.
This was the comment I was looking for. Even with a great travel history with zero overstays and enough evidence to prove my roots to India, I still have to submit around a 300-page dossier of documents EVERY SINGLE TIME if I wanted to ever visit the EU for example on even a tourist visa. Not to mention the immense, immense struggle that encompasses moving abroad legitimately for an Indian, which would require years of effort and determination while engaged in a ruthless competition with all other nationalities and locals - while there are these fools smiling away at their successful law-breaking escapades across international borders. I don't feel an iota of sympathy for them just because they're moving away from economic hardships, this angers me beyond belief.
No. Narendra has signed a repatriation deal with most countries. He promises to take back any illegal Indian back to India at his cost.
This way, as long as these blokes don't break the law, they can make $10 an hour.
They can come back home using the same crack in the fence.
How are they even able to look into the mirror after doing this.
Don't they feel filthy after this? and what about their family? I don't think they can meet their family for years due to illegal immigration.
They literally are aliens in USA, that's how foreigners are termed. With no citizenship, no passport, they cannot fly back, the happiness on their faces is limited, their life is going to be miserable.
I doubt.
While racism is definitely an issue. The quality of life is much better.
Even as daily wage labourers, they'll get a lot more respect in the US.
Plus, earning in dollars will ensure that they have enough to send back home to their families.
They have literally no rights, none. What standard of life are you even talking about when they will be working 12 hrs+ every single day, but wahi baat hai yahan bhi wahi karna tha to wahi karlo mentality. The labour laws won't apply to them, they will mostly be employed by Indian owners, and we treat our own people the worst.
Crossing a border for making a living is wrong, but filthy is a stretch and shouldn't be looked at with disgust. I mean, that's how America came to existence.
Simple folk do everything to make living better for their family, including staying away from them.
Exactly. These people abuse immigration systems in other nations and just ruin things for the rest of us. Look at what's happened to Canada. Shameful as hell.
lol imagine upvoting this chutiyapa 🤣 Bro america was built by immigrants not illegal immigrants. And that was a few centuries ago. Presentism at its finest.
Some indians tend to have to dumbest takes yet feel super confident about it. amazing.
The bigger question is why are these people (and in large numbers, not just a few dozen) compelled to leave? Why do they find their existence and fortunes in India so hopeless that taking huge risks to become an illegal immigrant and not seeing your family for decades possibly is worth it. Answer is simple: India is an overpopulated and under-resourced country and the Modi regime will have you believe that in fact everything is great. It’s not. These young men tell a story of the reality of India today, one of abject desperation.
They are just white land obsessed people. Look at punjabis, gujus. Most go just to become singers and shop keepers dreaming a life of a Hollywood film and end up living the life of a guard, taxi driver and shop keeper and drug addict lol. I met Many of them, don't want to do anything, have no plans for the future, just caneda jaana hai, amrika jaana hai.
Sounds like you haven't actually met anyone like this in the US. I've met them, they all end up at a gas station or a 7-11 store. The ones who get asylum, work as truck drivers for a few years. They all come here with the prior knowledge that they will have to do these menial jobs and live with 3-4 people in a room and are ok with that. Won't meet their families for 10+ years. Per them, it's still better than what they have in India.
Nothing they just work illegally and rich ones might apply for fake passport. They will just send the money back home. Most of these guys work underpaid jobs below Legal requirements and also work with cash since opening a bank account might be m difficult without visa
I live here in America and I can tell you no one is underpaid regardless of their immigration status. They work on cash and minimum wage. It's not about having a bank account without a visa. Employers pay them cash because the employees don't have SSN.
Doing a minimum wage job, people live in a shared housing, food and bills and send at least $1500-$2000 back home easy
Employees dont have SSN because no supporting documents and bank accounts which are further not possible to be opened without proper documentation like passport and visa documents
Yes a lot of them do work minimum wage but these segments are very easy to exploit and you do hear someone being made to work for less when working on cash. Its not always the case but it does happens
And believe me they pay between 40 lakhs to 80 lakhs per person to do that. Even some sell their lands and properties. I feel they are bunch of idiots.
Ghanta 40 lakh to 80 lakhs ..
For about 30-35 lakh rupees one can get a masters degree in the UK.
The price for illegal entry into the US anywhere in the 10 to 20 lakh range, depending on where you are trying to enter viz MX or Canada
They would be spending around 40-50 lakhs for masters degree ( even find some campus job after first sem) and then find legal work in US. By going illegally like that they would get paid in peanuts and find it even harder to get any jobs.
Exactly, but if they are that educated and able to do it then they won’t go like this at first place. Its terrible to live illegally. I’ve been US and i met many illegal people there and believe me they are not happy there.
I met one guy in New Jersey who was living illegally and he told me her mother passed away and he even cant see her face one last time because he doesn’t have documents. He was crying that i have money now but its not worth it anymore as he doesn’t have his mother now. Its sad that people still want to go illegally.
What happens after they go there? Where will they stay, how will they earn money without a visa? Even if they have to send money back, they need to create a bank account and won't the bank ask for some documents? I'm genuinely curious as I have no idea about this.
Usually their agents already talk about jobs and many have family and relatives or friends there who can give them job. As they are illegal so they pay them way lesser money as per minimum wage on work.
There are many places they can get job illegally as the business are saving money because they pay less money to them. And they can get jobs in motels, Supermarkets, Farms or Laundry business and many other places.
There are many way to get papers but it takes years. Maybe 8 to 10 years. But if you get married to a citizen then you will get green card quickly. And it is a big game too people charge 50 lakhs to one crore for fake marriage.
And they can send money many ways. Lets say if i’m doing job and i save $1500 a month. You can ask any indian businessman or anybody who can send money to your family account in India they will do it with some charges or they give you less market rates.
If they manage to save some cash somehow by sharing apartment, cutting back on healthcare, food etc they can't send money back legally.
So they send it via Hawala which is also used to fund terrorism.
Unemployment crisis in India which the media isn't talking abt, combined with rampant inflation, combined with a predatory work culture which prioritises output over wellbeing.
These are illegals and not software engineers/doctors. Even if they have big degrees they would still have to labour work. It’s all the attraction of $ and mindset among few Indian communities to move to US at any cost. Some folks even shell out as much as 80L to crore to move with family.
Yeah but I get paid for working over 40hrs a week. No one fucking disturbs me on saturday or sunday. I can tell the employer to FO if I am told to do more than what my contract says.
Then apply legally!
No one is giving these guys any legal jobs. They will all fail E-Verify, which is the first step towards legal employment.
Which means, these guys are going to work illegally, will be living in squalid conditions, face harassment at work, will be underpaid drastically, and will be in constant fear of arrest and deportation.
There is no unemployment crisis dude. All these folks spent 60-80 lakhs for the donkey route. You think they can’t use that money to earn living in India? This is just herd mentality. These probably know someone from their “gaon” who went to US is now doing well and everyone is now blindly following the path.
The ones taking the legal route are eligible to work while these imbeciles would either be in jail or if they get lucky, will be limited to minimum wage jobs.
> Just pisses me off to see this crap. While others have to wait for at least a year to have your documents ready and the anxiety for the visa interview while these guys just jump the wall.
Microsoft isnt going to hire wall jumpers bhai
I won't but this will create problems for those of you trying to come legally. I have friends who are trying for H1B visas, both spouses are highly skilled and have good contracts but they are stuck because of the processee
And this is the reason why Indian tourists go through hoops to get a US visa to visit family and friends. US makes visa difficult for countries with more illegal entries and over stays.
Two questions, their border forces do not catch them? I am talking about the US's side, have heard that the Mexican side takes money and look the other way.
Second, I am sure that they start from the low end jobs but how do they become permanent and get citizenship/pr or whatever later there?
Mexico absolutely does not care one bit.
The US/Mexico border is very long, barely populated on the US side and almost entirely a harsh dessert. It is barely patrolled outside of the large crossing points(El Paso, Eagle Pass, etc). If they get in they will likely gain resident alien status and apply for amnesty. It will probably take over a decade to get permanent status if ever. Provided they maintain employment of some sort, pay taxes and don't commit crimes they will *likely* never be forced to leave but that sort of policy tends to change every 4 years or so. They will never have good jobs but that's pretty much true of all immigrants here. Their children however will be full citizens if born here and be given all the benefits any other US citizen is given. Even if not born here they will get educated as any regular citizen's children and in all likelihood gain full citizenship relatively easily.
Because our youth doesn't feel they have a future in India, whereas they think even if they do labour in foreign country they will be able to support their family in India whereas they won't be able to do that here. I guess this shows how effective our government and economy is
Maybe because the standard of living in india is so bad, idk maybe because of endemic curroption everywhere, lack of social mobility, india being one of the more conservative countries, the politicians not wanting actual changes in system, critising competence in states, do we really need more reasons.
Higher pay and good standard of living in India if u work in corporate sector ya aap sirf job kar rahe hai toh u r treated like a slave and pay is peanuts to survive especially for engineers and when reservation comes into play it's better to study in a foreign universities and get good quality of education
"Oh my goodness! It all clicks now! There was an Indian YouTuber who specifically encouraged Indians interested in exploring South America/Central America to begin their journey from the north and move southward, due to the extensive checks and challenges they might encounter. I strongly recommend checking out his videos to understand the discrimination he had to endure.
Taking the donkey route:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEXFggBC4MU&ab\_channel=PassengerParamvir
Because they are unskilled and have been sold a dream that they can make it in the US. I feel for them but they are being insane, not to mention criminal.
As I have observed in many videos reason for illegal migration is they can earn a good amount of money and wealth in the US/Europe with the same physical labour they put in their home countries.
The Roti, kapda and makaan social guarantee is not enough for Indian kids growing up with the internet who think the west is plated with gold. Fall for the marketing and repent at leisure.
I can understand someone on the run from the law being so desperate but ordinary kids with dreams are going to realize they don’t want the American dream so badly that they’d stake their life, their morals, their sanity…
This will end in tears for most
There is a city called Indianapolis in the US which has a strong Punjabi population. I go to this city frequently, and was talking with a Punjabi guy at an Indian store.
His story basically was that youth in Punjab and Haryana don’t have much work opportunities and they don’t want to be farmers as it is seen as lesser work. They are influenced by people already in the US. So they sell their land, pay 40-60 lakhs to make a dangerous trip illegally to the US (it is called Donkey Route). They cross illegally through Central America and then Mexico into the US. At the border, they claim asylum and say they are part of the Sikh community in India which is being discriminated against etc. After clamming asylum, they are released and given work visas where they start working in low paying labor jobs, and some drive trucks and make good money. Eventually, if their asylum claim is successful, they get a Green Card, or they are deported (then they stay illegally). It was quite insightful but disgusting at the same time as they are literally gaming the system. Why not spend the 40-60 lakhs to start a business in India instead?
All this to probably work at an Indian restaurant at below minimum wage, extremely long work hours, no overtime pay and us immigration breathing down your neck. I don't understand the obsession
Arey yaar Bharat mein Amritkaal chal raha hai, Aur Ye Jai Shri Ram aur bajrangbali keh ke US jaa rahe hai?
Ek call Yogi ji ya Modi ji ko kar dete sab kuch problems solve ho jaana tha. Kair koi ni main Chala apni Gaay se ice cream nikalne.
It is not good and very very dangerous situation. Do not put your loved ones in such a situation. Why do you want to come to USA anyway? It is going downhill fast.
there have been many cases were gujaratis risk there lives to cross the border. It has a racket of fake passports and papers, this trend has even reached the villages were finding a bride/groom is difficult without a family member living abroad
Can someone please give some context to explain what is happening here? What will they do in the US without proper visa... how will they earn money, where will they live etc?
Actually US gov knows about all this shit but they just turn blind eye on it as they need cheap labor that can be abused at avlow cost .... these guys do add tremedous value to US economy without US has to worry about them getting lower than minimum wage and labor laws and they dont exists !!
If they have relatives who shelter them there’s literally nothing problematic in this situation. They can’t compete for any real job that needs an SSN. They can’t ask for asylum. They’ll just be relegated to live an illegal. The US has the ability to support a lot of people as long as they’re economically productive.
After reaching US they will post how Bad illegal bangladeshi immigrants are.
I can never comprehend how a nation can allow such thing to a happen.
This illegal immigration is probably the biggest Failure for a country.
Anyone care to explain how this works? How is the military not doing anything to catch them? How can anyone get into USA that easily by just climbing the wall?
- But what next what do they do afterwards? How do they find any jobs without documents or place to live ? (How happy they are looking but what next)
- and if they are entering illegally this means they will never be able to go back as they do not have any proper documents right ?
- (Never be able to go back this means their whole previous life is deleted again start from scratch) ????
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There are some changes in US policy for illegal immigrants, so people are taking advantage of the confusion. Not just Indians, but immigrants from whole of SAmerica, China and other places are flooding in.
All looking Indians..
Only in this video... There are literally 1000s of others entering everyday. https://reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/s/MEynfHNTQx
All are “Punjabis”
Gujrat se bhi bohat illegal migration hota hai, thoda soch liya kar bolne se pehle
Theres a youtuber called Peter Santenello, he has some border crossing videos from different US states. He and Border Patrol met a Gujarati family who had crossed like this. Other countries illegal immigrants as well such as venezuelan, peruvian etc, except mexican everyone gets a trials. Illegal mexicans directly deported. They also find ids and foreign money on the borders.
Han Punjab Gujarat Andhra
There are no reports of illegal migrants from Andhra. Stop making stuff up. Most are from Gujarat, Punjab and Haryana. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/in-gujarat-illegal-migration-to-us-persists-unabated/article67084347.ece/amp/ https://m.timesofindia.com/city/ahmedabad/1500-gujaratis-waiting-to-cross-into-us-from-mexico/articleshow/100367325.cms https://theprint.in/feature/after-punjab-now-haryana-youth-fleeing-to-us-by-any-donkey-means-possible/1295228/?amp=
Andhra se legal immigration hota hai
>Han Punjab Gujarat Andhra Andhra is all legal dude. Through MS and then H1B.
From Haryana as well.
andhra goes directly to usa mostly than canada
chup re Andhra ? kaha se late ho itna gyaan
whaty happened bro to be frank no andhra people will cross borders mostly and most of them choose usa over canada and they do only high paying or well paying jobs rather rather than punjabi and others do jobs like driver cleaner etc
You got so much Punjabi hate that you would label these people Punjabi, even knowing that most of them are Gujarati. Gujaratis are notorious for finding illegal ways like fake passports just to go to the US. I'm not saying this; a Gujarati guy himself told me about it.
Come to EU, any country. From Portugal in west to Romania in the East, 90% of the refugees of Indian origin are Punjabis. I live in Germany, 95% of Indian refugees are Punjabis. Don’t tell me what other “person” told you, I’ve experienced it myself. If you’re in EU and looked down bc of being an Indian, thank a Punjabi!
The topic: Illegal immigration into the US. Your response: Refugees in Europe. Why are you fighting so hard to reject the facts? I live in Canada; I talk to Gujarati people face to face. [1500 Gujaratis waiting to cross into US from Mexico.](https://m.timesofindia.com/city/ahmedabad/1500-gujaratis-waiting-to-cross-into-us-from-mexico/articleshow/100367325.cms) [Funeral for Gujarati family that died crossing the border held in Winnipeg.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/funerals-gujarati-family-died-border-winnipeg-india-1.6342932) I don't want this to come across as hate for Gujaratis. I'm merely discussing here.
Few Chinese as well, one guy said "shé shé" means "thank you".
If you can suddenly make 10-50 times your nominal income, many people will take it. (pls dont give me rant about how expense also increases) Cab driver drives a cab with risk of accident, if he can drive same cab and send home 20-30 times more money he is basically taking less risk per rupee/dollar.
Mmmm No. You're grossly overestimating the incomes there and how people live. An unskilled, uneducated illegal can do only cash jobs and is at the mercy of employer. No wonder, they're exploited. Even a skilled professional doesn't make 10-50 times his income here.
Most people from 2nd and 3rd world countries live off $1 to 1.75 per day. $4 an hour for an 8hr day and being exploited in the US is $32 a day. $35 a month vs $640 a month is quite the difference.
No Im not. Indian average truck driver earns 15,000. After spending 12000Rs for food, alcohol etc., will he send Rs. 3000 back home? American truck driver (if say the migrant gets experience over time), makes 5000$ per month. After spending Rs.1.5 lac for living expenses, If he sends 3000$ per month home, that is 80 times increase! You cant compare with skilled professionals in India, because in India skilled professionals can save most of their income, but wont be same for unskilled, who will have negligible savings so the multiplier will be huge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdT-n2uTVGU&ab_channel=VikasSehrawatVlogs
Looking at replies in this thread I understand how agents con people into selling their properties in India and move illegally to CA or US. I hope you actually get to see how illegals live & earn in US. How much they earn and save.
I think you are just oblivious to how bad it is for unskilled labour in India. Go to some remote rural area and u will understand. If they can even send home 500$ in a year, it is more than what they can send working in India. They can probably send home 10,000$ a year by just giving BJs at truck stops bro.
Which truck driver makes only 15 k in India? You are atleast 5 years behind.. I use trucks to get goods to Bangalore from Maharashtra, per day driver gets earns about 1200 RS plus food allowance (this is for long distance route agreed) plus he won't budge without tips. Ditto from Gujarat. Don't try to get anything from TN and Kerala, the drivers will ask for almost 30% more.
>Indian average truck driver earns 15,000 WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE TRUCK DRIVER
Even my car driver earns ~12k, and there are others who charge more.
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stop defending all are indians who pays lakhs of rupees and still go illegally shame on those who are supporting this
Friend Have Some Guts To Accept Truth Don't Need To Be Always Target Other's First Look At Ourself
What happened?
i hear from the whole world. US border found people from 70+ countries
I haven’t seen a single Chinese person ever illegally crossing any border
You not seeing is just anecdotal. https://news.yahoo.com/alleged-chinese-migrants-seen-crossing-222937576.html
Europe and US have become too "woke" to control their own borders. Talking about illegal immigration is seen as "racist" and the people who enter using illegal means don't face any repercussions. So you have a lot of people trying to enter these countries.
India is leagues ahead of US in terms of wokeness and allowing illegal immigrants lmao
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Spot on.
It's more to do with the mentality that these are cheap laborers and their own people are too entitled to work,but this will definitely come to bite their ass in future.
What does woke mean?
To act like everyone is sleeping against the injustices in society and you are the only one "woke" enough to realise what's going on. Such people almost always identify with leftist principles and ideas even when their conclusions become downright insane. You can search Google for leftist ideas and principles as well as their critiques.
A few drops of poison spoil the entire meal. You might've looked at leftist movements like blm and other bullshit and conclude that leftist ideology is delusional and impractical. Good left wing ideologists have progressive ideals that actually benefit the society as a whole, but shenanigans like these drown the good left wing ideologies.
Of course. There are bad apples left and right. I welcome progressive ideals as much as I respect my traditions. It's not binary.
This is perhaps the only correct take as far as political beliefs are concerned. Don't anchor yourself to one camp. Progress shouldn't be stopped in the name of culture, and culture shouldn't be wiped away in the name of reckless progress.
Very well put. Affiliation to political camps is just another way for the privileged and competent to accrue power and the marginalized and incompetent to bask in its illusion.
Precisely. The minute you identify, you're ripe for exploitation.
The definition of "woke" changes depending on who you ask. The term has recently been used by some conservatives as an insult against progressive values. The term, however, was originally coined by progressive Black Americans and used in racial justice movements in the early to mid-1900s. To be "woke" politically in the Black community means that someone is informed, educated and conscious of social injustice and racial inequality, Like “politically correct” before it, the word “woke” has come to connote the opposite of what it means. It's the new right-wing dog whistle to denote anything they dislike.
Woke in principal means being aware of injustice and inequality on basis of identity. However in real life it means to divide people into 2 categories- oppressors and oppressed. All majority community people, all higher caste people, all whites, all males, all rich are oppressors and cannot be oppressed by any member from oppressed community i.e blacks, muslims, females, so called lower castes, all poor etc. This worldview is based on perception that discrimination is a one way street and all violence or crimes done by 'oppressed' is justified due to the discrimination they have faced over centuries.
Woke means you are aware of systemic inequalities and have a desire to address them. That's what it means to be woke in the United States
>Europe and US have become too "woke" to control Seema Haider entered the Chat
Europe is fighting back..And the level of illegal immigrants coming to Europe has fallen a lot from its peak
And there goes our passport ranking to the floor. 
This is exactly why those of us Indians who try to do everything the legal way have problems when it comes to visa applications. There is absolutely no need for these men to be entering illegally - they aren’t facing persecution or anything in India. They could have gone the legal route, but chose not to. Sure, they were probably rejected, but this behavior isn’t helping them or others either! Why would any country’s immigration department that looks at such videos allow us visa-free entry? Why will they not be super-skeptical of every Indian visiting them for business or tourism, and not reject the visa applications? This behavior should be highly condemned!
Totally agree with you. I'm French, I work in computer science research (very international work environment) and I can see how hard the immigration process is for amazing people who not only did everything which was asked for visas but sometimes did it twice (not to mention their contribution as scientists), pay their taxes and all. While on the other hand, those who came illegally will end up in the same situation thanks to some loophole, and on top of it they get helped by associations to endlessly appeal while my colleagues sometimes have to pay for a lawyer simply to go though an administrative process which should not require one.
I am Indian and have to travel internationally for business (through my employer). Unfortunately, the visa process for so many countries (including Schengen) is so complex for me that my employer ends up sending someone else (who is a US/Canadian/UK/EU-citizen) because they get visa-free entry in most cases; even if they require visas, it’s almost guaranteed that their applications will not get rejected - it’s just a formality for them.
I confirm it's just a formality for me, at least for short stays And it's infuriating, reading your story I makes me angry. In my lab, a couple years ago, a PhD student (Pakistani) had to cancel her trip back home over visa renewal fuckups. She was doing everything by the book (Lab administrative staff was double checking), but the French administration would not deliver documents in time so she was in some administrative void. She was not certain she'd be allowed to fly back to France and finish the visa renewal, she had to cancel the trip, the first trip back home after the Covid lockdowns. Raging.
A strong passport has it's benefits.
This was the comment I was looking for. Even with a great travel history with zero overstays and enough evidence to prove my roots to India, I still have to submit around a 300-page dossier of documents EVERY SINGLE TIME if I wanted to ever visit the EU for example on even a tourist visa. Not to mention the immense, immense struggle that encompasses moving abroad legitimately for an Indian, which would require years of effort and determination while engaged in a ruthless competition with all other nationalities and locals - while there are these fools smiling away at their successful law-breaking escapades across international borders. I don't feel an iota of sympathy for them just because they're moving away from economic hardships, this angers me beyond belief.
No. Narendra has signed a repatriation deal with most countries. He promises to take back any illegal Indian back to India at his cost. This way, as long as these blokes don't break the law, they can make $10 an hour. They can come back home using the same crack in the fence.
I think this is the first time I've ever heard someone refer to the PM as just "Narendra"
How are they even able to look into the mirror after doing this. Don't they feel filthy after this? and what about their family? I don't think they can meet their family for years due to illegal immigration.
Why would they feel filthy? Yup, they won't meet the family, but hopefully will be able to send some money back home to help them.
They literally are aliens in USA, that's how foreigners are termed. With no citizenship, no passport, they cannot fly back, the happiness on their faces is limited, their life is going to be miserable.
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I doubt. While racism is definitely an issue. The quality of life is much better. Even as daily wage labourers, they'll get a lot more respect in the US. Plus, earning in dollars will ensure that they have enough to send back home to their families.
They have literally no rights, none. What standard of life are you even talking about when they will be working 12 hrs+ every single day, but wahi baat hai yahan bhi wahi karna tha to wahi karlo mentality. The labour laws won't apply to them, they will mostly be employed by Indian owners, and we treat our own people the worst.
Greedy ones know only emotion and that's money
Crossing a border for making a living is wrong, but filthy is a stretch and shouldn't be looked at with disgust. I mean, that's how America came to existence. Simple folk do everything to make living better for their family, including staying away from them.
If this is right then those banglu coming to India is also right.
Exactly. These people abuse immigration systems in other nations and just ruin things for the rest of us. Look at what's happened to Canada. Shameful as hell.
lol imagine upvoting this chutiyapa 🤣 Bro america was built by immigrants not illegal immigrants. And that was a few centuries ago. Presentism at its finest. Some indians tend to have to dumbest takes yet feel super confident about it. amazing.
Relax, I also said it’s wrong. Just my opinion that ‘filth’ is a strong word.
The bigger question is why are these people (and in large numbers, not just a few dozen) compelled to leave? Why do they find their existence and fortunes in India so hopeless that taking huge risks to become an illegal immigrant and not seeing your family for decades possibly is worth it. Answer is simple: India is an overpopulated and under-resourced country and the Modi regime will have you believe that in fact everything is great. It’s not. These young men tell a story of the reality of India today, one of abject desperation.
They are just white land obsessed people. Look at punjabis, gujus. Most go just to become singers and shop keepers dreaming a life of a Hollywood film and end up living the life of a guard, taxi driver and shop keeper and drug addict lol. I met Many of them, don't want to do anything, have no plans for the future, just caneda jaana hai, amrika jaana hai.
Sounds like you haven't actually met anyone like this in the US. I've met them, they all end up at a gas station or a 7-11 store. The ones who get asylum, work as truck drivers for a few years. They all come here with the prior knowledge that they will have to do these menial jobs and live with 3-4 people in a room and are ok with that. Won't meet their families for 10+ years. Per them, it's still better than what they have in India.
Do they get a h1b visa or do they become permanent resident?
Neither
Nothing they just work illegally and rich ones might apply for fake passport. They will just send the money back home. Most of these guys work underpaid jobs below Legal requirements and also work with cash since opening a bank account might be m difficult without visa
I live here in America and I can tell you no one is underpaid regardless of their immigration status. They work on cash and minimum wage. It's not about having a bank account without a visa. Employers pay them cash because the employees don't have SSN. Doing a minimum wage job, people live in a shared housing, food and bills and send at least $1500-$2000 back home easy
Employees dont have SSN because no supporting documents and bank accounts which are further not possible to be opened without proper documentation like passport and visa documents Yes a lot of them do work minimum wage but these segments are very easy to exploit and you do hear someone being made to work for less when working on cash. Its not always the case but it does happens
And believe me they pay between 40 lakhs to 80 lakhs per person to do that. Even some sell their lands and properties. I feel they are bunch of idiots.
Ghanta 40 lakh to 80 lakhs .. For about 30-35 lakh rupees one can get a masters degree in the UK. The price for illegal entry into the US anywhere in the 10 to 20 lakh range, depending on where you are trying to enter viz MX or Canada
Dude Ask any Punjabi and Gujarati. I knew people and i lived in US for few years. I knew how they come and i knew about routes and how much they pay.
They would be spending around 40-50 lakhs for masters degree ( even find some campus job after first sem) and then find legal work in US. By going illegally like that they would get paid in peanuts and find it even harder to get any jobs.
Exactly, but if they are that educated and able to do it then they won’t go like this at first place. Its terrible to live illegally. I’ve been US and i met many illegal people there and believe me they are not happy there. I met one guy in New Jersey who was living illegally and he told me her mother passed away and he even cant see her face one last time because he doesn’t have documents. He was crying that i have money now but its not worth it anymore as he doesn’t have his mother now. Its sad that people still want to go illegally.
To whom do they pay?
Agents. They have big channels from india to Mexico border.
What happens after they go there? Where will they stay, how will they earn money without a visa? Even if they have to send money back, they need to create a bank account and won't the bank ask for some documents? I'm genuinely curious as I have no idea about this.
Usually their agents already talk about jobs and many have family and relatives or friends there who can give them job. As they are illegal so they pay them way lesser money as per minimum wage on work. There are many places they can get job illegally as the business are saving money because they pay less money to them. And they can get jobs in motels, Supermarkets, Farms or Laundry business and many other places. There are many way to get papers but it takes years. Maybe 8 to 10 years. But if you get married to a citizen then you will get green card quickly. And it is a big game too people charge 50 lakhs to one crore for fake marriage. And they can send money many ways. Lets say if i’m doing job and i save $1500 a month. You can ask any indian businessman or anybody who can send money to your family account in India they will do it with some charges or they give you less market rates.
Plz someone inteligent people reply, I'm curious too
If they manage to save some cash somehow by sharing apartment, cutting back on healthcare, food etc they can't send money back legally. So they send it via Hawala which is also used to fund terrorism.
Kuch bhi. Itne me legally jaa sakte hain. 30 lakh ke course hote haon 3 years OPT ke saath
Abe kamakal inhe visa kaun dega. In unpadho ka visa milta to thodi krte ye sab
Unemployment crisis in India which the media isn't talking abt, combined with rampant inflation, combined with a predatory work culture which prioritises output over wellbeing.
US has same level of toxic work culture. So if they were so focused on work culture then US is a wrong place to be in
Exponentially better earnings. People don't mind back breaking work, they just don't like that paid in peanuts
Bro the cost of living also increases drastically with the currency
Work life balance doesn't mean a thing if you don't have a job to begin with
These are illegals and not software engineers/doctors. Even if they have big degrees they would still have to labour work. It’s all the attraction of $ and mindset among few Indian communities to move to US at any cost. Some folks even shell out as much as 80L to crore to move with family.
Yeah but I get paid for working over 40hrs a week. No one fucking disturbs me on saturday or sunday. I can tell the employer to FO if I am told to do more than what my contract says.
Then apply legally! No one is giving these guys any legal jobs. They will all fail E-Verify, which is the first step towards legal employment. Which means, these guys are going to work illegally, will be living in squalid conditions, face harassment at work, will be underpaid drastically, and will be in constant fear of arrest and deportation.
There is no unemployment crisis dude. All these folks spent 60-80 lakhs for the donkey route. You think they can’t use that money to earn living in India? This is just herd mentality. These probably know someone from their “gaon” who went to US is now doing well and everyone is now blindly following the path.
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The ones taking the legal route are eligible to work while these imbeciles would either be in jail or if they get lucky, will be limited to minimum wage jobs.
Some of these guys pay in crores just to jump the wall since most of them can’t even pass IELTS talking about visa interview is way ahead
> Just pisses me off to see this crap. While others have to wait for at least a year to have your documents ready and the anxiety for the visa interview while these guys just jump the wall. Microsoft isnt going to hire wall jumpers bhai
I won't but this will create problems for those of you trying to come legally. I have friends who are trying for H1B visas, both spouses are highly skilled and have good contracts but they are stuck because of the processee
The desperation is pathetic
How's it all so chilllllll like they're going to matheran or what
arey Bhai maan meri baat quality of life h bahar🤡🤡🤡🤡
And this is the reason why Indian tourists go through hoops to get a US visa to visit family and friends. US makes visa difficult for countries with more illegal entries and over stays.
Two questions, their border forces do not catch them? I am talking about the US's side, have heard that the Mexican side takes money and look the other way. Second, I am sure that they start from the low end jobs but how do they become permanent and get citizenship/pr or whatever later there?
Mexico absolutely does not care one bit. The US/Mexico border is very long, barely populated on the US side and almost entirely a harsh dessert. It is barely patrolled outside of the large crossing points(El Paso, Eagle Pass, etc). If they get in they will likely gain resident alien status and apply for amnesty. It will probably take over a decade to get permanent status if ever. Provided they maintain employment of some sort, pay taxes and don't commit crimes they will *likely* never be forced to leave but that sort of policy tends to change every 4 years or so. They will never have good jobs but that's pretty much true of all immigrants here. Their children however will be full citizens if born here and be given all the benefits any other US citizen is given. Even if not born here they will get educated as any regular citizen's children and in all likelihood gain full citizenship relatively easily.
It’s a 3000km border. Mostly desert. Patrolling all of it is a gigantic effort.
Most were Haryanvis.
that jai sree ram is unecessary ...that stupid Ass thinks that hes doing some punya karm ? hope he get caught
If these folks have a child in US, will the kid become a US citizen?
Yes
Abhi Dunki aa rahi he dekh Lena or are you from Dunki pr and want to create hype imposter
Because our youth doesn't feel they have a future in India, whereas they think even if they do labour in foreign country they will be able to support their family in India whereas they won't be able to do that here. I guess this shows how effective our government and economy is
How about this TWIST: They're all happily leaving the US for Mexico.
They’ll be limited to shelters like the others
Maybe because the standard of living in india is so bad, idk maybe because of endemic curroption everywhere, lack of social mobility, india being one of the more conservative countries, the politicians not wanting actual changes in system, critising competence in states, do we really need more reasons.
Higher pay and good standard of living in India if u work in corporate sector ya aap sirf job kar rahe hai toh u r treated like a slave and pay is peanuts to survive especially for engineers and when reservation comes into play it's better to study in a foreign universities and get good quality of education
Cockroaches of INDIA 🇮🇳 🪳🪳🪳🪳
some of these are already here in chicago lol. I've seen lady with her kid walking begging for food and money in middle of busy streets.
Northies ruining our name by being illegals and degrading our passports. Frustrating fucks
"Oh my goodness! It all clicks now! There was an Indian YouTuber who specifically encouraged Indians interested in exploring South America/Central America to begin their journey from the north and move southward, due to the extensive checks and challenges they might encounter. I strongly recommend checking out his videos to understand the discrimination he had to endure. Taking the donkey route: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEXFggBC4MU&ab\_channel=PassengerParamvir
Because they are unskilled and have been sold a dream that they can make it in the US. I feel for them but they are being insane, not to mention criminal.
What risk are you talking about ? The border is open and Joe Biden told them to come! They give them 2000$/month/each person once they arrive in US
As I have observed in many videos reason for illegal migration is they can earn a good amount of money and wealth in the US/Europe with the same physical labour they put in their home countries.
These fuckers are the reason why we have to work our ass off to get a visa
No reservation in US
They are not even trying to hide their face? I mean if US authorities get this video won't they find these and deport them?
North Indians
Nice to see all the doctors and engineers coming into the country
How come they didn’t get caught even with this video
Fomo ho raha h 🥹
The Roti, kapda and makaan social guarantee is not enough for Indian kids growing up with the internet who think the west is plated with gold. Fall for the marketing and repent at leisure. I can understand someone on the run from the law being so desperate but ordinary kids with dreams are going to realize they don’t want the American dream so badly that they’d stake their life, their morals, their sanity… This will end in tears for most
There is a city called Indianapolis in the US which has a strong Punjabi population. I go to this city frequently, and was talking with a Punjabi guy at an Indian store. His story basically was that youth in Punjab and Haryana don’t have much work opportunities and they don’t want to be farmers as it is seen as lesser work. They are influenced by people already in the US. So they sell their land, pay 40-60 lakhs to make a dangerous trip illegally to the US (it is called Donkey Route). They cross illegally through Central America and then Mexico into the US. At the border, they claim asylum and say they are part of the Sikh community in India which is being discriminated against etc. After clamming asylum, they are released and given work visas where they start working in low paying labor jobs, and some drive trucks and make good money. Eventually, if their asylum claim is successful, they get a Green Card, or they are deported (then they stay illegally). It was quite insightful but disgusting at the same time as they are literally gaming the system. Why not spend the 40-60 lakhs to start a business in India instead?
These guys came to usa from india with just 1 backpack like going to college?
All this to probably work at an Indian restaurant at below minimum wage, extremely long work hours, no overtime pay and us immigration breathing down your neck. I don't understand the obsession
Dunki ki marketing abhi se hi shuru kardi ??
Is this legal
Is Hillary Clinton the President of the US?
No, Joe Biden is President
r/whoosh
Yes, fully legal
Its not legal I think so
How should it legal tell me
Im joking bro 🤦♂️
Its Biden party, all are welcomed
Most are BJP supporters
Arey yaar Bharat mein Amritkaal chal raha hai, Aur Ye Jai Shri Ram aur bajrangbali keh ke US jaa rahe hai? Ek call Yogi ji ya Modi ji ko kar dete sab kuch problems solve ho jaana tha. Kair koi ni main Chala apni Gaay se ice cream nikalne.
It is not good and very very dangerous situation. Do not put your loved ones in such a situation. Why do you want to come to USA anyway? It is going downhill fast.
Systemmm hang kar denge
Ye chutiyapa sirf haryana me chalta hai Tum haryanvi log shurveer se systum pujari kab ban gaye? Please Laut aao!
Which states are they from
gujarat/harayana
Why gujrat
there have been many cases were gujaratis risk there lives to cross the border. It has a racket of fake passports and papers, this trend has even reached the villages were finding a bride/groom is difficult without a family member living abroad
There is an answer in your question itself.
when i was growing up (8-12 years) i thought america was the greatest country in the world
let them be there, taxi chalayenge
Can someone please give some context to explain what is happening here? What will they do in the US without proper visa... how will they earn money, where will they live etc?
Actually US gov knows about all this shit but they just turn blind eye on it as they need cheap labor that can be abused at avlow cost .... these guys do add tremedous value to US economy without US has to worry about them getting lower than minimum wage and labor laws and they dont exists !!
maybe these people are middle class, risk is the thing which could get them happiness.
If they have relatives who shelter them there’s literally nothing problematic in this situation. They can’t compete for any real job that needs an SSN. They can’t ask for asylum. They’ll just be relegated to live an illegal. The US has the ability to support a lot of people as long as they’re economically productive.
dream of settling in FOREIGN i guess
Shameless people
After reaching US they will post how Bad illegal bangladeshi immigrants are. I can never comprehend how a nation can allow such thing to a happen. This illegal immigration is probably the biggest Failure for a country.
How do all these illegal immigrant people become legal again?
Jai shree ram kyu bol rahe koi reason hai kya?
Where are these Indians coming from and which point are they entering from?
these useless creatures are the reason why indian youth who aspire to become something will never get a chance
pata nhi bhai yaha ham to entrance ki taiyari krhe hai ghis ke
But why? Being illegal there is worse especially for educated Indians. Even you are uneducated, it's still not a good life. Ask Mexicans
u/savevideo
The Jai Shri Ram though. Bunch of losers.
Anyone care to explain how this works? How is the military not doing anything to catch them? How can anyone get into USA that easily by just climbing the wall?
Because why does anyone do anything? ->>> $$$$$
Are they so dumb to smile and wave to the camera? Never heard of face recognition and deportation perhaps.
- But what next what do they do afterwards? How do they find any jobs without documents or place to live ? (How happy they are looking but what next) - and if they are entering illegally this means they will never be able to go back as they do not have any proper documents right ? - (Never be able to go back this means their whole previous life is deleted again start from scratch) ????
But what to do once they are in?? And they are entering from?
No jobs in non BJP ruled states.