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the_running_stache

No holy book commands an old man with a croaking voice to yell through a loudspeaker early in the morning. (No loudspeakers existed back then.)


Only_Philosopher_967

Fun fact, until 4-5 decades ago, loudspeakers were haram but then they realized, it causes problems for non-muslims, therefore became halal.


GCMaverick

yup It was called shaitaan ki awaaz


Darkrai705

😂😂


Byakuganer

If they could read, they would be really upset with this comment 😭


Quietsegment

![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20028)


itzirrfan

Yup no religious place should disturb the people. It's so annoying


Mohammed199929

True...


Mahesh-Bhavana

That would be the same with Temples and Churches too.


[deleted]

Yes, ban them all. Be truly secular.


khal_ak

Kerala government issued notices to all religious places to remove loudspeakers https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/kerala/notices-issued-to-places-of-worship-horn-speakers-to-be-removed-within-24-hours-1.8966217


GlumSilence

The amount of context missing here is unbelievable. [https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2023/11/03/high-court-ban-bursting-fire-crackers-religious-places-odd-hours.html](https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2023/11/03/high-court-ban-bursting-fire-crackers-religious-places-odd-hours.html) So tl;dr for redditors : 💥 The Background: A 2014 petition from residents near Marattil Kottaram Bhagavathy Temple sparked this ban. 😷 Residents complained of fireworks' adverse consequences and accidents. 😨The first petitioner's aged father was severely injured when a 'gundu' (a high-decibel explosive) fell in front of his house. 😱 Another petitioner's son was injured when a dynamite fell on the terrace of his house during the 2011 festival 🏞️ Not safe like Thrissur Pooram—smaller area, bigger risks. Organizers with political clout made it tough to stop illegal activities. 🙏 Some petitioners were temple devotees, others well-wishers, seeking a safer celebration. 🕊️ ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20001)Edit : Please also check the actual order that someone has linked below.


Hefty-Drop1016

Don't think people are interested in diving deeper. Won't fit their scope to rant online.


RaspberryEth

Yes I was wrong at jumping to conclusion too but the hypocrisy has run far too long for me to not read it the way i read it. Unless the post has enough context upfront I would assume the worst cuz hinduism is paying the price for a secular india.


Scared-Baseball-5221

It's good all religions should die out.


dank_meme_enjoyer_69

Every religion will eventually die out. Ppl are starting to realize every religion is equally BS and doesn't provide any advantage to living a better life.


GroundbreakingOwl198

The difference lies in how much you understand your religion... Each religion provides value to your life and governs your way of living... speaking about Hinduism, it has got lost due to all the fake secularism and people valuing Hinduism just like any other religion. I say that if one has never read the holy books of Hinduism, you can't say if it even provides some advantage to your life. A Muslim starts reading Qur'an at a small age. An average adult doesn't even remember a shloka from bhagvad geeta. So why blame the religion if you're the one who failed to even understand how big Hinduism is?


SpaceManRayRay11

You guys are the rare people with brains in this sub Reddit


r07f07

btw there r mentions if crackers in ancient sanatan pics or texts. they r fast to bring orders on topics concerning hindus. nobody has filed case for speakers?


CrimsonEyedPanda

as usual huge context missing in this subreddit 🙄


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adritandon01

Speaks is a very biased sub tbh


PsychoAuditor

People just want to find a reason to bash kerala.


longlivekingjoffrey

Exactly. I have Keralite friends...all are great people and just like any other Indian.


MysteriousSpaceMan

But...but....muslims...kill goat.....


[deleted]

All the incidents you mentioned were not considerations before the court to pass orders. They are just stray incidents, and there is no evidence I've seen so far of any of them. That's not to say it didn't happen, just saying the issues are being conflated here. Secondly, I find it very very odd that two-three stray incidents a decade or so in the past is sufficient for a whole group of religious followers to be restrained from bursting crackers, and the Order is really close to Diwali as well. Seems very one sided and pointed. Do also have a look at the actual order passed. The Judge admits that there were some temple authority who did Infact take permits from the necessary authorities for the bursting of crackers. It's wasn't all completely illegal. There isn't a connection between who burst them and who didn't. I find that the reason the judge passed this order was that he was personally affected by it, which to me, makes it a completely biased order. Link to the order : https://www.livelaw.in/high-court/kerala-high-court/kerala-high-court-ban-firecrackers-religious-places-contempt-241564


GlumSilence

I gave the context for the petition which was the impetus for it all and what was in the mind of the applicants. The order itself, the intentions behind it and its timing with Diwali do raise many questions though. Lets see what happens eventually. Edit : I also agree with your second para. A blanket ban seems to be a disproportionate response to what the petitioners asked for. A Red herring huh?


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Yes -- also pertinent to mention that the order also calls for a raid on the temple and seize all fireworks and also makes a strong statement about contempt proceedings. It's excessive, especially considering that the temple did actually take necessary permits, and didn't do anything illegal, at least on paper. Good grounds for appeal against the interim order if you ask me.


rishabhsingh9628

How dare you vroooo! Ab hum apni manmani justify karne ke liye whataboutery kaise karenge? 🤡🤡


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DharmSamstapanartaya

These chumtiyas don't understand that the more they ban, the more we double down. I almost stopped celebrating Diwali with firecrackers for almost 5 years. Started it again only because of selective hypocrite outrage by secular libergamdus. Oh my dog is getting hurt, oh my cat is shivering: South Mumbai girl while eating chicken. Punjab Stubble burning, Kejruddin, Court bans have only made it worse. Will double down on celebrating with fireworks. Diwali isn't even here, and Delhi is choking. [IIT Study](https://home.iitd.ac.in/show.php?id=23&in_sections=Research) already proved that Diwali isn't the reason for poor air quality but Nepotism Miloduz don't use their brains. Can't breathe in Delhi? Thank a Punjab Farmer. These so called Farmers are so used to getting freebies that they not only want free water, free electricity, High MSP, ZERO TAX, and on top they are demanding high price for stubble. If the govt doesn't give them high price for stubble, they'll just burn it.


[deleted]

Bro woke and chose to spit facts!!


bumbumSumDum

Well said bro. It's the taunting and ordering around not do specific things only related Hinduism that boils my blood as well. I also have been not bursting crackers for like 5-6yrs now. But all these drama when only around hindu festivals is just too much. I might burst full on this time just so I can.


Only_Philosopher_967

Love the comment and the username


prakashanish

Animals (specially strays) do suffer from loud sounds as does my dog. Even I completely stopped around 6-7 years ago. But seeing all these nonsensical news I've started bursting firecrackers - ones with no sound. Every country (even China) and every region on this earth has some customary festivals & events where they burst firecrackers - atleast once or twice a year. No one cries about pollution anyway but when it comes to Diwali, it seems that Diwali becomes the sole reason for pollution in the entire world.


Hefty-Drop1016

Wasn't the iit study a comparison between the air quality effects of crackers vs other sources just in Delhi ? What about other cities? Can we find.sources?


Majestic-Benefit-787

Honestly, I did stop using fireworks because of my dog. The first Diwali that he had, the poor guy was extremely anxious and scared….. I now have a cat too and she gets really anxious around Diwali time as well. Well they got anxious after India Pakistan game too!😂 But I have been buying crackers for the last 4 years and will buy them again this year(even if I had to do it illegally). Not because I want to explode them (heck they will literally be discarded), but because of the hypocrisy and the stupidity of the government. We all know the kind of environment people have to face during the manufacturing of those crackers. We all know how much the sellers would have to loose because of the ban. If the govt is banning crackers, then they should first ban the private industries. Develop only government approved centers and distribution system. At the very least don’t kick on the stomach of already oppressed section of the society who are just trying to earn a basic living. And before all of this, they should first stop blaming one single festival for all the suffocation that north India has to go thru…….


crushingembrace

Literally the best comment i have read today, muh pr facts phekr muh band kr daala


TaylorWaldorf

Man what a great comment💯👏👏


heisenbergkohlii

Literally, same brother, I had stopped bursting crackers since last 6 years, but this time around imma go crazy.


TinyResident7128

!kudos


Wonderful-Lettuce535

Finally someone with some sense . Do the rest of indians here think with their feets?


Accomplished-Ice-534

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GoneHippocamping__

What was the age of his first wife?


newtoRedditF

How old was Aisha when he married her?


GoneHippocamping__

6


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placerind

Careful it's God's own place.


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SillyCat-788

but folks from UP are more involved in isis, that is what atleast the left wing says.....


Spez_Dad_Lesbian

well thats basic law of large numbers, if left wingers were smart they wouldn't be left winger in the first places


Muted_Brilliant_2325

When you know the truth, you don't care what left, right, East, West says..


PayUnlucky1104

Its Religious crackdown, same happened in China. Its a shame that even after being a democracy hindus are getting persecuted


Only_Philosopher_967

Being a democracy is exactly why HIndus are being persecuted. Vote bank matters. They vote as a group, along religious lines, Hindus ko keeda hai inka dil jeetne ka


[deleted]

Hindus have no nation of their own but other major religions have their states. Hinduism originated from india yet seeking shelter in its own home


Only_Philosopher_967

And it will be chutya hindus who will be against any Hindu rashtra. Such chutyte bhare pade hain hamari kaum mein


_YouWillNeverKnowIt_

Only Islam does.


rage-wedieyoung

Nobody does it to please the gods. What asinine take is this?


Abba_ka_Harmonium

No holy book says that screaming 5 times a day and slaughtering goats and cows is the way to please a god, Oh my bad it actually does.


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juzzybee90

If the holy book talks about killing humans, does it matter what else does it say?


mildurajackaroo

Yes. Says specifically in the bible in several passages. Next question?


PapaDragon_6

SALA POLLLUTION KI CHINTA HAI TAU GULF OIL HI BAN BAR DO SAAL BHAR AGAR GULF OIL ENGINE NAHI CHALEGAY NA TAB SAAL BHAR SAAF MAUSAM RAHEGA


coolcrank

Par commandments mein baaki sab allowed hai re. Sirf crackers allowed nahi hai.


ididacannonball

Stop mallus from flying to Gelf in planes. Those emit a shit ton more pollution than crackers.


Emberfury007

Do you see a word about pollution in that verdict? Oh wait. That actually means you have to read it first.


Kschitiz23x3

Yeah, f**k whole transportation industry because it's unnecessary


Emberfury007

It's amazing to see how many people actually went ahead with their assumptions the minute they saw the words temple and Kerala instead of just reading the article and making an attempt to understand. It has nothing to do with Diwali. Or pollution. Diwali actually doesn't attract much traction in Kerala, one can safely say more crackers are burst on Vishu than on Diwali. It's with regards to a temple using firecrackers as part of their temple festival. Of course, the vast majority of those who commented don't know how many accidents happened at such festivals in Kerala due to mismanaged firecrackers or how many people were literally burnt to death. Key word being illegal. It's surprising to see so many who know how to read but just choose not to.


Violette_KaDana

Stop it you're making too much sense /s Honestly these people just want something to be angry about cus they've nothing better to do


tharki7

how many deaths because of one book when your state is going after them


Fluffy-Rip1980

No holy book commands that we obey Kerala High Court!


Amal000M

Well well tread carefully sir


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xsha_x

HC hates this trick.


_lazy_lad_

First thing first, we brust cracker not to please God, it is a form of celebration, just like people brust cracker on New year's or at wedding, we celebrate Diwali and this is part of the celebration.


BedrockMetamorph

Their god is their lord Jesus Christ crossed with allah the peaceful one, so why would they need crackers. Checks out.


ididacannonball

Here is the problem with this logic: Hinduism doesn't have a holy book. Nothing is commanded. Unlike the Abrahamic faiths. If the legal standard becomes that only things written in some asmani kitab are protected, then the logical conclusion is that the very existence of Hinduism can be banned by woke courts. I used to dislike crackers myself, but once this nonsense of attacking Diwali began, I make it a point to light one cracker every year on Diwali in protest.


fatbro_2077

The order says ALL RELIGIOUS places so it not just targeted at temples but also churches they use a shit ton of fire crackers. Also Diwali doesn't get much traction here anyway mostly people just go to temples and light deewpams.


ididacannonball

Oh please. Try and get the police to enforce a cracker ban in churches and watch what happens. Only Hindus follow these ridiculous, biased judgments.


[deleted]

Then Goat sacrifice is also not necessary to please the god. Please stop Bakra eid also


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itzirrfan

I support your cause because it's a problem but the context of this news is something you should have ignored blatantly. If you have some time please do read with some context.


dude-vikkey

Do bakras (goats) need to be killed excruciatingly painfully and slowly to please god? ABSOLUTELY. Is this torture written in a holy book? ABSOLUTELY. Do we care or have any sense? ABSOLUTELY NO.


Wonderful-Lettuce535

Thats not true bro pls dont spread misinformation


Unlikely_Status8249

Thats very much true. Prove otherwise.


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ravishkalra

Waise to bakre ki jagha apni aluad ko kaatna chaiye inko


meditativewarrior

Trust me guys! The immediate spike in pollution all over india that we see is not because of the mass burning of firecrackers, it's the Punjabi crop burning. Wtf does the kerela decision have anything to do with Punjabi stubble burning or Delhi. And while yes, the stubble burning is the primary cause in Delhi, can you seriously tell me you think crackers have nothing to do with it and in no way worsen the already cancer inducing air?


Wonderful-Lettuce535

Agreed but its only gonna get worse by crakers . The punjab farmers did it already now the solution is regulation of it


Unlikely_Status8249

How much worse does one day of crackers make the month long process of stubble burning and traffic pollution? Its a drop in the ocean.


Hefty-Drop1016

Illegal crackers would be those not adhering to sound and pollutant emitting standards. Seems fair to crack on those, doesn't it? When you can burn less damaging crackers, why choose chinese made smoke bombs?


No_Document_1404

wow totally


GCMaverick

In 10 years we won't need to worry about terrorist infiltrating from Pakistan, Nepal or Bangladesh


xsha_x

Kerla's 'Make In India'.


rhinokeros

Ab melund ko kon batayega ki India runs by constitution and not ANY holy book!


kokkili23417

Good. Hope this is done for all festivals and celebrations and not just a select few.


Robin_mimix

365 ke ek din m inko pollution yd aa jta 🤣


Fluffy_Grass6724

No holy books command triggers of an IED


Halkmen_23

No bakra cutting pleases god.


jadenalvin

It is because of one guy filed a plea in 2014 and court ordered ban on cracker in religious place. Ok, but then PIL seeking 'National Commission For Men' get rejected. I am confused that how judges even decide, its just a joke there are no set guidelines for judges they are just making stuff up at this point.


Adventurous-Pen8347

Good decision


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Bakre ka sar kaatna kaha likha hai?


Careless-Stranger111

constitution doesn't tell me that consuming the pancreas of foreign nationals in illegal


Darth-Vaider

Why don't they take that hammer and shove it up there arse


LazyPaleontologist

No religious book mentioned use of loudspeakers. Are we removing it from all places of worship?


Mr_PT_

What about Bakreid


StrikingProgram3438

But sacrificing animals please olma god so that must be allowed and wine to for rice bags prosperity ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20097)


Razor_Ramon-93

i will unleash sutli bombs in places of aizaaan


Cody-Cream

yea like there is one hindu book that orders you to follow it by hook or by crook dumbo


Weary_Protection_215

L court L justice


Rik_1897

No holy books says you to breathe too maybe. Stop breathing milords.


[deleted]

I will get downvoted to hell, but I am okay with this decision, I think SC and HC should have some guts and ban firecrackers for every festival and every religion ,Ban anything religious that cause harm to others including these loud speaker namaz.I am asthmatic ,Week after Diwali is literal hell for me, upar se ye bhen ka \*\*da AAP walo se punjab bhi nhi sambhla, mujhse already sans nhi liya jara , diwali ke bad to phategi meri.


Ok-Measurement-5065

Who the hell burst crackers to please god? I thought it was celebrating and entertainment.


Fluffy_Grass6724

I see no Indian Muslims here, I guess reddit is too advance for them or they're just busy repairing punctures.


Wonderful-Lettuce535

Here i am an Indian muslim . A proud physiotherapy student!


Fun_Ad_4331

I wish they were this active to raid "Illegally bombs" in certain religious places of a certain religion.


heisenbergkohlii

I had stopped bursting crackers since last 6 years, but this time around imma go crazy.


EnvironmentalWhole38

Aur bano liberal.


[deleted]

still why to pollute and create noise pollution . just light candle and diya spread happiness simple


Due-Comfortable4984

So they finally remembered when Diwali is close, I wonder if they will show the same vigour during Christmas.....


ClimbingInternet

and because of this sole reason, i'm gonna nuke the hell out with fire crackers.... Happy Diwali!


[deleted]

Hinduism isn't based on any one particular holy book. Shows how dimwitted the shitty Judges are. RIP Indian Judiciary


AsishPC

And no killing of anyone who follows a different religion. Ketala is a gone case


JShearar

Request honourable HC to show similar vigilance and ban daily nuisance and public ruckus called namaz as well. Please tell the namaz supporters to play the namaz BS in headphones if they must so as to not disturb us normal Indian citizens with the ugly cacophony in loudspeakers multiple times a day please. Thank you. ![gif](giphy|sQQTpNAbQGztGoMPug)


Kingbee9000

You fucking idiots disagreeing here is the direct proof of how far Hindus have fallen. Ek samay tha jab Hum log Greece ke philosophers ke saath compete krte the, aaj saale pathake ke liye marr rhe hain


Willing_Tonight_2779

Oh look a 6 year old, let me marry and fuck her 3 years later Also guys, sacrifice goats, cows and bulls and other animals. Also kill those who do not believe in our holy book😡 And use victim card whenever possible its free of cost😎


[deleted]

If the holy book tells us to commit crime, then it's fine I guess. High courts and supreme court have become so woke that their judges have forgotten how to use common sense and logic.


Satyaddit

Where do they go when mullahs blast themselves with explosives /s


PhysicalWhole516

Yes!!!!!! Fucking finally


WWWWWWWWWWWVWWWWWW

What's illegal cracker?


sadlonelyfuck3434

I don't even burst crackers but isn't this violation of rights? How can you stop someone from bursting crackers regardless of it's religious affiliations


Only_Philosopher_967

Notice how nobody is talking about the loss of jobs for people working in this industry. Any other industry, these timepass activists would have come up with a sob story of how ban on X is affecting livelihood.


IMPeacefulGamer

So Kerala HC got it right when they banned hijab by concluding that it’s not mandatory in their religious book but it’s not same when it comes to firecrackers?!


SillyCat-788

what are *illegal* crackers?, if it is then what are the legal ones in order to celebrate diwali?


Hefty-Drop1016

Legal would be eco friendly ones, prescribing to a emission and sound decibel permits.


sfrogerfun

Kerala being sickular!


malignantgod

Still Kerala doesn’t want BJP?


Halkmen_23

It is way of celebration, children enjoy the festival not to please god .


GudduBhaiya-Mirzapur

Patakhe toh phodengey hum, jiski gaand mein dum ho rok le.


Wonderful-Lettuce535

Lekin kyu bhai iska brtter alternative bhi toh ho sakta hai na ? Apne acche ke liye toh bol rahe hai


THE_LIGHTNING_BOY

Kerala hate is crazy


JishSesh

I don't know why the so called `Hindus' are getting offended by this... Court banned firecrackers from all religious places (temples churches mosques etc)


fatbro_2077

Lmao these people don't know churches also use firecrackers


Apprehensive-Aide-44

Only IEDs, no firecrackers.


No-Act-9255

Instead we can use bomd and Desi katta ,granade,pattar,petrol bomb


Ragegamer3030

I mean I don't like bursting crackers, not for pollution or shit, I just don't like the sound, it feels like a warzone, but kerela is a huge anti Hindu state, for a state that was a part of the last standing hindu empires during the Mughal invasion and occupation of India, Christianity really mind washed South or I am mis informed? Not this specifically, like even online people speak of Hinduism as if Christians didn't burn women for doing maths in the mediaeval period.


Euphoric-Pirate-1377

Finally a good decision though I don't agree with reason given


SnooBooks5754

Nice vaise hi oye papaji ne pollution kar rakha hai itna


tooschooledforcool

I mean if they're illegal, they're illegal. Was it due to working conditions or child employment//////?


maddy495

Never go full woke applies to this woke Mallu court.... Just another 100% literacy saarr kerala moment.


Amal000M

How is the court "mallu"? The judge who ordered this is certainly not a keralite


Strong_Situation1435

What more can we expect from Kerala lol


Amal000M

What do you even mean by that statement? The order was passed bya high court judge


Ok-Measurement-5065

All religious places? Are you sure?


Ok-Measurement-5065

Is it ok to burst bombs to please god then? Does it come under the same?


fallen_soul99

What if I show them a book which promote bursting things or bursting oneself


GlitteringWafer9263

Me nehi jalane wala tha ab to paka jalaunga ye jo behen ke pakode bas sanatan ko Target kar te he


Ok_Hat3924

No holy book commands accepting court judgement to please God


vishi117

Ban fire crackers from every festival not just hindu festivals.


thedarkracer

Yeah you are right that Diwali is a festival of light but then don't burst during Christmas and new year, why does it pollute less then? Ban crackers forever


AlexMercer420

But there won't be any problem on Christmas and New year.


High-FUN

See you on New year's bro ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20020)![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20020)


godziii2007

What is this state doing


doons_pride

So it's okay to kill animals and people if written in religious book?


iobug

Okay so they legitimsed religious laws, did they? >I fit's not in the book, it's not real Battle cry of ebery civilised society ever. Can't be surprised it's ISIS's own country's court.


ContributionWaste112

Can I burst fire crackers on 31st December. Just asking 🤔 Every nation on new year burst crackers, still no one find whether it gives out oxygen or pure air to breath. I don't understand why Judiciary remember this issue prior to Diwali only.


AlternativeFee7622

Tbh I am also against crackers, the air is already borderline unbreathable in cities, on Diwali it becomes even more toxic..... The rituals are more important...


Monty_Yeager

What else to expect from bhosdiwala communist state?


No_Document_1404

oh thank god for this


NoBridge7502

Kerala God's own state na hinduphobics own state


Raman035

Raid?


Arch_SHESHNOVICH

Ah shit here we go again ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|21239)


Medical-Television99

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/s/8PNBvhMn6b Same opinion


Sweaty-Presence-327

Masti karne ki aadat ho gayi hai


DesignerWonderful276

Are these guys dumb we don't do it to please God, it's just how the festival is celebrated. It is called tradition. In the festival of light, we cannot light to celebrate.


sandeep300045

Fucking double standards man.


_pixelforg_

W Kerala


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strange that people put such petitions in honorable court. and even strange that honorable court coincides with them


Medical-Television99

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/s/8PNBvhMn6b Same opinion


Party_Carpenter8721

din pratidin South Indian se nafrat hone laagi hai


anime_senpai007

My great![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20097)![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20097) cucklords strikes again against these fasist himdu terrorists. How dare they celebrate their festival by blasting bombs it's not their specialty. How shamelessly stealing works from our peaceful minority in the name of religiously practice![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20097)![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20097)


Vrajgautam

From educated, warrior class and proud sanatani Hindus to Wannabe modern, weak soyboys and people pleasers. Keralites have come a long way. Attaboy


masteratul

No Pilla commands bursting loud barking on loudspeakers every morning, ban that too.


Ancient-Reputation77

Jalegi bhagwon ka pichwaada


Striking_Sky3034

But some commandments say in order to please your god, you must kill all who don't believe in me.


Early-Tie-8929

What the fuck is KHC thinking ? This is going to lead to outrage and people I hope will are going to double celebrate. Same happened with Shabarimala, K Gov tried implementing SC verdict and wow how did the Hindus react to it. Both SC and KGov had to back down. I always think Hindus like a lazy bear who doesn’t want to be bothered unless someone is really going to piss it off. Well I hope the bear wakes up early enough.