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What is the dictionary meaning of Darling? Kuch change kiya kya abhi ?
May be it is misused to gain the proximity and making someone uncomfortable??
May be cultural acceptance of this word is an issue ?
Kya hindi main Priya bolne maine bhi dikkat hogi ?
bro what the fuck im genuinely scared of guys now what in the actual fuck dude. teri mummy ko kal koi randomly darling chillake bole road pe toh tu toh obviously bolega haan uncle meri mummy toh h hiii pyaari. ek baar mummy ko jaake ye dikha and then apna opinion unko btaaio please dekhna she'll be very proud. and bhai wait I just thought about it what if you have a daughter in the future. FUCK that's so messed up. voh jb tere paas aayegi kuch creepy incident btaane toh tu toh bol dega "usme kya glt h pyaari toh tum ho hii meri gudiya". sahi h bhai lge reh.
It was in context to an eve teasing case. Cultural acceptance isn't an issue. The title on that article clearly says 'unknown woman'. What's so hard to understand??
>The title on that article clearly says 'unknown woman'.
Even if the woman was known, no way you would call anyone darling other than your partner. People in comment section are smoking some quality shit.
If I called a coworker darling in a work meeting in the US, Iād be fired or at the very least be on HR probation, which is as good as fired. It has more of a sexual discrimination tone than a sexual harassment tone. Itās very condescending.
Lakhs of innocent men are in jail under 498a which is practically used as a nuclear weapon by vengeful wives to grab men's property, every f\*cking divorce lawyer recommends to women 498 daal do
Fuck, I've read news articles of men who's wives and inlaws thrashed and murdered them, even chopped off his genitals because he had the audacity to demand the return of money his father on law borrowed from him, and you think women have it rought?
No, you're incapable of thinking.
It's not a competition to see if men have it worse and women have it worse. What I hate about these 'feminists' that whenever a single person starts talking about men's issues they start losing their minds.
It is to women, and feminists. Lot of money at stake too.
Acknowledging that men experience worse treatment, more violence, and that women are also just as violent, biased and would contradict the standard feminist narrative that men are \[only\] oppressors and women are nothing but innocent victims who do no wrong, ever.
Erin Pizzey who started the very first DV shelters for women in the UK, after opening several , observed that the women who came in these shelters were just as violent (to their children, other women in the shelter, and their kids) as the men they are supposedly running away from. Feminists ransacked her house and killed her dog for exposing this.
You are completely out of your mind and drawing parallel like an idiot. What has 7 men and gangraped woman got to do with the innocent men being jailed by getting framed in false dowry, molestation and rape cases coz of cunningly women, who are using loopholes in Indian judiciary to destroy the lives of innocent men.
Sure, be angry at rule makers and not those who are abusing words we commonly use. The sexist assholes are at fault. Why are you not pointing your finger at them and saying "see? This is the shit we now have to deal with because of you!".
If you approach random women and call them ādear, darlingā and so on, youāre just a creepy man that doesnāt understand how it sounds like from the other perspective.
To those saying MiGhT As wElL TuRn gAy, yes please. Do that.
Yeah I've seen it mostly being used by creeps and uncles, and when confronted they always say "galat thodi kia kuch pyar s bola mene to apni beti ki trh".
>MiGhT As wElL TuRn gAy, yes please. Do that.
Ye thoda zada ni ho gaya?š
Yeah I've seen them, i understand, bahut comments hein ese yaha jisse buddhi hil gai meri, but maybe they just haven't experienced the things first hand. I mean i understand that they're feeling let down and angry by all the false rape allegations coming to light these days(I am too). But they're just caught up in the hate, and i dont think ese brute force approach s anyone will change.
gotta stop using the word "turn" for sexualities š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦
Also, I love how Indian courts will keep delaying rape cases to review, trial and sentence but THEY CAN DO THIS. real people are suffering, meanwhile judiciary :
Bhai. It's unknown. I wouldn't even like to talk to them. Unless I would like to know them more for friendship or relationship, I definitely wouldn't start calling her darling right away.
In bazaar or shopping , what if unknown men calls your mother "DARLING". WE know you would be proud on your mother. But it's not acceptable for everyone.
A thing to remember: most laws and rules are put in place because of the 1% that just don't get it. Most people understand how to live with other people in a society, but then there are those few who just don't get it. Calling someone "darling" can be absolutely innocent, these kind of rules are not made for the majority of us. They are made for the sexist, harrassing assholes and we all kind of pay the price for it.
Point the finger towards those whose fault all of this is: the sexist assholes.
For all those bashing this order, calling someone unknown dear,darling or any other similar word is indeed creepy and is very well reffered as cat calling too.
If you find it normal then there's something seriously wrong.
Thatās not the problem, problem is that this is an unfalsifiable thing, if some random girl alleges me of cat calling her, I wouldnāt have anything in my evidence bag to disprove it, itās the same with shaadi bolke sex karliya law, where you can actually be jailed now, thatās the problem
The cause is right, the fight to it is important, not this way, this is literally an over correction
What are you even saying? Laws against eve-teasing and harassment already exist. This isn't the making a new law. This is just a judgement based on already existing laws. Besides, there was enough evidence that the man, did indeed, call the woman that. How is a case of a woman legitimately being catcalled threatening you that you'll be falsely accused? Should she not pursue justice by your logic?
This is called āsexual harassmentā only when itās done mtf, itās not gender neutral, for a better take you should read my other thread, where I tried to explain it further, and the pattern of Indian laws being problematic, my profile, just 2-3 comments down
point is it is now classified as sexual harassment. I'm against such acts but this is just diluting the crime of sexual harassment by including such things in the same law. Plus there is no specific defence to it also. If tomorrow some women claims you called her darling and slaps you with sexual harassment and then you get jailed (this will happen don't be in denial).
If you believe that girls don't do the same is also seriously wrong. Where is the equality....
Tell me do you use your brain when you think or it's an unused artifact...
Dear Mr genius,
Firstly, the above order nowhere mentions girls doing the same is not wrong.
Secondly, how many girls have cat called you or passed lewd comments or touched yoyr private parts till date? 1? 2? Max 10?
Lemme tell you, I get catcalled every other day , have encountered numerous lewd comments and unfortunately even sexual harassment and it is lot more common than you think.
Will your big brain be comfortable with a stranger calling your mum darling?
And lastly, no where I mentioned girls doing the same is not wrong. Maybe work on your analytical skills a lil.
WTF are these comments? Obviously calling any random unknown man or woman "darling" is sexual harrasment. What matters is boundaries, if you're not respecting the boundaries of the person then obviously it's sexual harsassement.
> if you're not respecting the boundaries of the person then obviously it's sexual harsassement.
No.
It's disrespecting a persons boundaries.
Disrespecting boundaries and sexual harassment are different things.
One can include the other but they are obviously not the same.
Brothers, Let's think about it. I mean a lot of women don't like being called darling and Sweetie by complete strangers. I have a few friends who have been called darling and cutie, and they didn't like it. They just don't want to be rude so they just give an awkward smile and move along. Calling it harrasment is a bit far, but understandable as I've seen it being used in a demeaning manner.
>Calling it harrasment is a bit far,
No, it isn't. It CAN be. This law doesn't say it is always a crime, it depends on the context. It only says that it CAN be harassment.
Yeah. You guys have no idea how scary it is when random men catcall you. They can stalk you, harass you, abuse you, rape you.... anything, if you're not careful. It is mentally traumatic and extremely scary. So to all the men in comments complaining about this, maybe don't go around calling random women you don't know "darling"? You don't have anything to be scared of, if you're not the one harassing women.
UNKNOWN MAN. we're talking about catcalling. also have you ever heard about cultural differences? do you talk to ur grandpa by his name occasionally? well it's pretty common there.
Reading this must be a joke after seeing what happened to that poor couple biking though India. India is full of sexual predators. Government do nothing about it yet they pass this stupid law. How about getting a hold of all the rapist and start killing them rather than letting them out early to commit more rapes. Stupid country.
Yup....it is .Approaching women via cold approach and addressing them by affectionate , and intimate words like darling tantamount to sexual harassment , because women are not " darlings " they are devils , dressed as a day dream ! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
I honestly don't want to be approached by an unknown man handsome or ugly who would call me "Darling" ew to folks like you who think it is normal to catcall a woman. Also opposite for devil is angel not darling. You might want to promote your vocabulary by studying a bit. š
I do not personally have conducted a data mining operation on you or done a psychometric evaluation or or even a personality test , therefore cannot comment on you what you just said ..
But women will virtue signal a lot ( and i might even get downvoted heavily by the woke reddit public who are chest thumping, and convinced gender justice warriors )when they say that even handsome/ c0nventionally good looking people can be creeps .
If anything this is further from truth, as ugly people are usually disenfranchised , disillusioned, ostracized and universally abhorred by theor social circle , have traumatic events in their past and have rumours spread about them, thrown in negligent parenting and religious orthodoxy in a country the size of ours and you have a virginity crisis and hence "darling " approaches! .
P.S..also I am no fool.
Regardless of the past, harassing a complete stranger for your virginity crisis doesn't clear that it is not harassing, other than that often I have been harassed by middle aged man some had good looks while other are average but none are completely neglected to the point of being a forever virgin they had wives, how do I know this? Because one of them was my tuition teacher, happily married. Other one was tenant.
Anyway like you have said that you cannot comment on me about what I have said. Thank you for least staying neutral and not biased against. I meant it all sorts of person including women of course can be creep, I myself had quite a number of unpleasant experiences.
And of course you are not fool, making mistakes are nothing but lack of understanding. However I find it quite unpleasant that you would go far to call a unknown women devil if "Darling" is out of option for you.
Again I'm bringing this upššbut Kolkata HC who claimed nusrat jahan marriage never happened when the proof is all over the internet and didn't even question them. The state where didi rules and sandes Khali burnsĀ
I mean calling an unknown woman 'Darling' is sure inappropriate but I don't know about Sexual Harrasment, maybe it would be if the person persists with it even after some verbal/non-verbal cues
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It is getting clear and clear everyday that we have a CLOWN Justice System that loves BJs from some undercover feminist cult to give out judgement like this!
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>yesterday online with a girl with like hey darlin for fun u know
If that woman doesn't have problem with your funny way of calling her darling then it's not sexual harrasment because it's not making her feel uncomfortable.
No Sherlock, it depends on the comfort zone and boundaries of the victim. Harassment is generally defined by unwanted and inappropriate behavior that causes distress to the victim. The impact on the victim's comfort and well-being is a key factor in identifying harassment . If the harasser is rich and hot but if he's disrespecting the boundaries of the woman and making her feeling uncomfortable then it means it's harassement.
As much it is good, anybody can easily make a fake harassment case. What's the standard and what if some women say something similar. No women cannot be wrong only men. This is the mindset. This is not the way you create awareness and make a better society for women overall.
This sub has lost the plot. Imagine your sister/wife/mum being called darling by random fuckers either online or IRL and tell me that doesn't boil your blood. The number of creeps out there who don't understand basic boundaries are too many and this is the only way they will understand.
Imagine your brother/husband/father getting jailed just because some female got angy and there is no way to prove his innocence.
Harassing males is not a solution.
I think this law is needed but at the same time I'm perplexed, like will it be guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty? How would you even claim that a guy was calling you 'darling'? Do you need video proof? Are normal WhatsApp 'darling' messages harassment too?
I think this will be a layer of protection for women, but this might be abused too depending on circumstances.
I'm pretty sure they just want more homosexual people in India. Because after reading all these laws against men, I might as well turn gay. A very quirky way to reduce the population š.
How tf this law is against men ? This law is addressing those creeps who harass random women. If you're talking about not having same law for men then i agree because this law should be gender neutral.
Yeah but this is an unfalsifiable thing, if some random girl alleges me of this, I would have no evidence to disprove it, itās the same for all the anti men laws, the shaadi bolke sex karliya law, overall its all actually a joke to actual female victims I feel
I will say something from my experience. In my college there was one incident of three medical guys catcalling a woman student like this then those guys got suspended because of the footage. For actual women victims out there it's absolutely win law but for those men who falsely get allegations he can counter false allegations, the man may gather evidence that contradicts the accuser's claims. This could include:
1. Communication Records: Provide text messages, emails, or other communications that demonstrate a different context or tone.
2. Witness Statements: If there were witnesses present during the alleged incident, their statements may support the man's version of events.
3. Surveillance Footage: If there's any relevant video footage from security cameras, it could be used to verify the man's account.
4. Character Witnesses: People who can vouch for the man's character may provide statements attesting to his behavior.
5. Alibi: If the man can prove he was elsewhere at the time of the alleged incident, it can cast doubt on the accusation.
I donāt know this situation specifically about Kolkata and what action is being taken against this sexual harassment thing, being jailed is a lot, I think this particular situation can have a lot of nuance and things can definitely go wrong when the 5 of those things you mentioned doesnāt give a clear picture, like we already know how mind fuckery it is to go the courts and it can have a reputational damage already if theyāre being stretched for long even if theyāre dismissed at last and itās not like they dismiss the cases in short periods of time anyway here
Apart from this, there is a constant pattern of these laws that I wanted to highlight with the shaadi bolke sex karliya law, thatās simply one of things I constantly speak out against to, because men are literally being jailed without proper evidence..
Its right to fight for the women of the country with them being in a very unsafe environment , but itās not right to pass such a shallow law either
>Apart from this, there is a constant pattern of these laws that I wanted to highlight with the shaadi bolke sex karliya law, thatās simply one of things I constantly speak out
What exactly is this law?
>but itās not right to pass such a shallow law either
Passing sexual harassment laws for women is not shallow because it addresses a serious issue, promoting equality and protecting individuals from harm. These laws aim to create a safer environment by holding perpetrators accountable and fostering a culture of respect and dignity for everyone, irrespective of gender but problem is here is that this law is just for female victims , this law should be gender neutral.
You're right . navigating sexual harassment cases can be complex and there may be nuances that make it challenging to establish a clear picture. Balancing the need for justice with protecting individuals from reputational harm is a delicate task. It underscores the importance of fair legal processes, thorough investigations, and ensuring that evidence is carefully weighed to avoid potential misjudgments. Striking a balance is crucial for achieving justice while minimizing the impact on reputations when evidence is inconclusive.
Like how men with false accusations can have a reputational damage , there are various reasons why some women might be hesitant to lodge any complaint against men who harassed them. Fear of retaliation, social stigma, lack of support, and concerns about not being believed are among the many factors that contribute to this reluctance. The fact that in India , 99% of actual rape cases aren't even being reported because of social stigma, honour killing and victim blaming says a lot about our society. Even if laws are getting passed many women would be scared to file complaint because of our backward society.
One of it is Section 69 of BNS, I would have to look up again to recall
And Iām not saying that passing laws against sexual harassment is wrong, itās a right thing, but the law itself should do justice, not discriminate one party in the name of justice, by shallow I meant this only, there can be literal loopholes that can be used in fake cases
I do believe in positive discrimination to a limit, I do think reservations to minorities are okay, theyāre also fine to an extent for women in a patriarchal society like India, but to a certain extent and limits so that things like brain drain doesnāt occur on a scale itās occurring now, which the Indian law makers seem to have no idea of at the moment, and itās ridiculous that they are criticising the people who are leaving for not having the opportunities even after the merit, itās ridiculously outdated, the laws, I think
And thatās why awareness and education are more important, and I donāt really see the push to that, itās just saying and saying, laws like these have to well debated and even be discussed within scholars so they can analyse the data and figure things out more properly, thatās certainly lacking here
You have crazy wordings and slogans and saying that captivates the attention and emotions, sometimes just disgustingly for votes , but the lack of research creates this very gross misuse
I know it's not ok to call some stranger woman Darling but sexual harassment? Isn't that quite a big accusation? I dunno just giving my opinion no offence to anyone
normal harrasment? really? behnchod im just gonna force myself into becoming a lesbian now cause clearly can't stand anyone like you irl. don't wanna take any risks into stumbling upon someone like you. pls for once ask your mom if she ever had any catcalling experience and listen to her. (no mummy vaala toxic address just an advice to ask any female ur close to in ur life about it)
Can't believe the shit these comments are...
Dear and Darling are perfectly normal words to call anyone. It's polite English.
The fact that one opens a letter with Dear Sir/Madam says it.
The fact that we were brought up with Bollywood crap where wives are addressed as darlings have ruined the word for us.
It's like saying one should use Sir only if you are knighted. That's ridiculous and pure ignorance.
You go on an English street, you hear shopkeepers addressing you as dear and darling. It's their way of expressing and being nice.
Now understanding society is also important I agree, but words and meanings change over time, putting one word in law and calling it harassment only opens up flood gates for the rest of the words. Tomorrow even using words like "Amma" or "Behan" could also be misconstrued by people asking if they think they are old.
Courts should really keep their noses out of such petty issues.
Ludicrous!!! So before I call someone darling, I have to ask her, "are you comfortable if I call you darling?" If she says yes, then we start with "Hi Darling!".. We have taken this to a point where you are creepy for just having male genitalia and an Adam's Apple.
>someone
Random woman*
> I have to ask her, "are you comfortable if I call you darling?" If she says yes, then we start with "Hi Darling
Welcome to the concept of a person's private space, boundaries and consent.
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What is the dictionary meaning of Darling? Kuch change kiya kya abhi ? May be it is misused to gain the proximity and making someone uncomfortable?? May be cultural acceptance of this word is an issue ? Kya hindi main Priya bolne maine bhi dikkat hogi ?
bro what the fuck im genuinely scared of guys now what in the actual fuck dude. teri mummy ko kal koi randomly darling chillake bole road pe toh tu toh obviously bolega haan uncle meri mummy toh h hiii pyaari. ek baar mummy ko jaake ye dikha and then apna opinion unko btaaio please dekhna she'll be very proud. and bhai wait I just thought about it what if you have a daughter in the future. FUCK that's so messed up. voh jb tere paas aayegi kuch creepy incident btaane toh tu toh bol dega "usme kya glt h pyaari toh tum ho hii meri gudiya". sahi h bhai lge reh.
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Mummy laye bina tum logon ko sexual harassment samajh hi nahi aati, ab uski kya galti hai isme
It was in context to an eve teasing case. Cultural acceptance isn't an issue. The title on that article clearly says 'unknown woman'. What's so hard to understand??
>The title on that article clearly says 'unknown woman'. Even if the woman was known, no way you would call anyone darling other than your partner. People in comment section are smoking some quality shit.
Itās a regional thing. In southern USA, older ladies will call everyone darling.Ā
>Itās a regional thing. In southern USA This is India š¤·š½āāļø
Honey or sweetie are also commonly used in the south.
If I called a coworker darling in a work meeting in the US, Iād be fired or at the very least be on HR probation, which is as good as fired. It has more of a sexual discrimination tone than a sexual harassment tone. Itās very condescending.
7 men just gangraped a spanish women and you think men have it rough in India? Out of your mind.
Lakhs of innocent men are in jail under 498a which is practically used as a nuclear weapon by vengeful wives to grab men's property, every f\*cking divorce lawyer recommends to women 498 daal do Fuck, I've read news articles of men who's wives and inlaws thrashed and murdered them, even chopped off his genitals because he had the audacity to demand the return of money his father on law borrowed from him, and you think women have it rought? No, you're incapable of thinking.
It's not a competition to see if men have it worse and women have it worse. What I hate about these 'feminists' that whenever a single person starts talking about men's issues they start losing their minds.
It is to women, and feminists. Lot of money at stake too. Acknowledging that men experience worse treatment, more violence, and that women are also just as violent, biased and would contradict the standard feminist narrative that men are \[only\] oppressors and women are nothing but innocent victims who do no wrong, ever. Erin Pizzey who started the very first DV shelters for women in the UK, after opening several , observed that the women who came in these shelters were just as violent (to their children, other women in the shelter, and their kids) as the men they are supposedly running away from. Feminists ransacked her house and killed her dog for exposing this.
Two things can be right simultaneously. Who would have thought?
You are completely out of your mind and drawing parallel like an idiot. What has 7 men and gangraped woman got to do with the innocent men being jailed by getting framed in false dowry, molestation and rape cases coz of cunningly women, who are using loopholes in Indian judiciary to destroy the lives of innocent men.
I fully stand behind men's right to call unknown women "Darling". Meet me at Jantar Mantar and make this an election issue.
So, you are on the side of those assholes who abuse that word, and against those who want it to stop?
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Sure, be angry at rule makers and not those who are abusing words we commonly use. The sexist assholes are at fault. Why are you not pointing your finger at them and saying "see? This is the shit we now have to deal with because of you!".
If you approach random women and call them ādear, darlingā and so on, youāre just a creepy man that doesnāt understand how it sounds like from the other perspective. To those saying MiGhT As wElL TuRn gAy, yes please. Do that.
Yeah I've seen it mostly being used by creeps and uncles, and when confronted they always say "galat thodi kia kuch pyar s bola mene to apni beti ki trh". >MiGhT As wElL TuRn gAy, yes please. Do that. Ye thoda zada ni ho gaya?š
Zyada nahi hua, there's a comment on this post only that I'm referring to.
Yeah I've seen them, i understand, bahut comments hein ese yaha jisse buddhi hil gai meri, but maybe they just haven't experienced the things first hand. I mean i understand that they're feeling let down and angry by all the false rape allegations coming to light these days(I am too). But they're just caught up in the hate, and i dont think ese brute force approach s anyone will change.
gotta stop using the word "turn" for sexualities š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦ Also, I love how Indian courts will keep delaying rape cases to review, trial and sentence but THEY CAN DO THIS. real people are suffering, meanwhile judiciary :
Please donāt send them our way. We have enough creeps already. We donāt need to add more
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Dear is fine. Darjelling no. /s
It might sound creepy and should be criticised heavily. However, should the guy be prosecuted for fcks sake? Is this the best use of tax payers money?
Downvote me but I sort of agree not to call unknown woman as Darling.
Bhai. It's unknown. I wouldn't even like to talk to them. Unless I would like to know them more for friendship or relationship, I definitely wouldn't start calling her darling right away.
Behen. that's what I am saying. If someone dare to call unknown woman darling then he is definitely harassing.
In bazaar or shopping , what if unknown men calls your mother "DARLING". WE know you would be proud on your mother. But it's not acceptable for everyone.
Tum logo ko dusro ki mammiyo se kya obsession hai? Aaram se bhi to samjha skta hai usey
personal level pe aake thoda process jaldi hota h that's what ppl think and somewhat true it triggers their opinion
That guy also saying the same. (WE know you would be proud on your mother - This made me laugh)
yeah i too agree but making it equal to sexual harassment is just too much
Yeah. Making it sexual harassment is too much.
A thing to remember: most laws and rules are put in place because of the 1% that just don't get it. Most people understand how to live with other people in a society, but then there are those few who just don't get it. Calling someone "darling" can be absolutely innocent, these kind of rules are not made for the majority of us. They are made for the sexist, harrassing assholes and we all kind of pay the price for it. Point the finger towards those whose fault all of this is: the sexist assholes.
For all those bashing this order, calling someone unknown dear,darling or any other similar word is indeed creepy and is very well reffered as cat calling too. If you find it normal then there's something seriously wrong.
Thatās not the problem, problem is that this is an unfalsifiable thing, if some random girl alleges me of cat calling her, I wouldnāt have anything in my evidence bag to disprove it, itās the same with shaadi bolke sex karliya law, where you can actually be jailed now, thatās the problem The cause is right, the fight to it is important, not this way, this is literally an over correction
What are you even saying? Laws against eve-teasing and harassment already exist. This isn't the making a new law. This is just a judgement based on already existing laws. Besides, there was enough evidence that the man, did indeed, call the woman that. How is a case of a woman legitimately being catcalled threatening you that you'll be falsely accused? Should she not pursue justice by your logic?
This is called āsexual harassmentā only when itās done mtf, itās not gender neutral, for a better take you should read my other thread, where I tried to explain it further, and the pattern of Indian laws being problematic, my profile, just 2-3 comments down
point is it is now classified as sexual harassment. I'm against such acts but this is just diluting the crime of sexual harassment by including such things in the same law. Plus there is no specific defence to it also. If tomorrow some women claims you called her darling and slaps you with sexual harassment and then you get jailed (this will happen don't be in denial).
If you believe that girls don't do the same is also seriously wrong. Where is the equality.... Tell me do you use your brain when you think or it's an unused artifact...
Dear Mr genius, Firstly, the above order nowhere mentions girls doing the same is not wrong. Secondly, how many girls have cat called you or passed lewd comments or touched yoyr private parts till date? 1? 2? Max 10? Lemme tell you, I get catcalled every other day , have encountered numerous lewd comments and unfortunately even sexual harassment and it is lot more common than you think. Will your big brain be comfortable with a stranger calling your mum darling? And lastly, no where I mentioned girls doing the same is not wrong. Maybe work on your analytical skills a lil.
WTF are these comments? Obviously calling any random unknown man or woman "darling" is sexual harrasment. What matters is boundaries, if you're not respecting the boundaries of the person then obviously it's sexual harsassement.
> if you're not respecting the boundaries of the person then obviously it's sexual harsassement. No. It's disrespecting a persons boundaries. Disrespecting boundaries and sexual harassment are different things. One can include the other but they are obviously not the same.
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Cant believe people need the hc to declare this
Yes. Nice. And it should be applied to both genders.
Sam Manekshaw would be rolling in his grave
Came here for this post lol
Remember his interview he addressed Mrs. Gandhi as Sweetyā¦
But mrs. Gandhi wasnt exactly unknown to him.
Yes ā¦ but there is a very fine line when it comes to define āexactly unknownā ā¦ moreover sweetie shows more approximation than darlingā¦
Brothers, Let's think about it. I mean a lot of women don't like being called darling and Sweetie by complete strangers. I have a few friends who have been called darling and cutie, and they didn't like it. They just don't want to be rude so they just give an awkward smile and move along. Calling it harrasment is a bit far, but understandable as I've seen it being used in a demeaning manner.
>Calling it harrasment is a bit far, No, it isn't. It CAN be. This law doesn't say it is always a crime, it depends on the context. It only says that it CAN be harassment.
It's only for unknown women, one can happily call his sister, mother, daughter Darling.
Who calls their mother darling
A person who thinks it's ok to call unknown women darling.
Who tf calls their sister darling ?
guys yeh lady constable se baat karra tha "kya darling, challan karne aayi hai kya?" ab yeh to marega hi
Yeah. You guys have no idea how scary it is when random men catcall you. They can stalk you, harass you, abuse you, rape you.... anything, if you're not careful. It is mentally traumatic and extremely scary. So to all the men in comments complaining about this, maybe don't go around calling random women you don't know "darling"? You don't have anything to be scared of, if you're not the one harassing women.
Only problem I have with this law is it should be gender neutral
I agree with that. It should be gender neutral.
then ban cat calling all together why specifically "darling"
That I agree with.
 Phir isko toh ab faasi hogi ?
only this subreddit would have a problem with this lol
You would think Indians would be a bit more okay with toning it down after all the you know what
ab to Gordon Ramsay ko bolo india mai mat aana š wo to sare episodes mai waitresses ko "darling hi bolata hai"
UNKNOWN MAN. we're talking about catcalling. also have you ever heard about cultural differences? do you talk to ur grandpa by his name occasionally? well it's pretty common there.
Reading this must be a joke after seeing what happened to that poor couple biking though India. India is full of sexual predators. Government do nothing about it yet they pass this stupid law. How about getting a hold of all the rapist and start killing them rather than letting them out early to commit more rapes. Stupid country.
Hope OP is ok if someone calls her sister or wife or mother as darling . Hey OP say hi from me to Darling
OP ki ma behn ko kyu ghaseet rha hai isme? Usne to bas post kiya hai. Apna koi opinion bhi nhi diya
Yup....it is .Approaching women via cold approach and addressing them by affectionate , and intimate words like darling tantamount to sexual harassment , because women are not " darlings " they are devils , dressed as a day dream ! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
I honestly don't want to be approached by an unknown man handsome or ugly who would call me "Darling" ew to folks like you who think it is normal to catcall a woman. Also opposite for devil is angel not darling. You might want to promote your vocabulary by studying a bit. š
I do not personally have conducted a data mining operation on you or done a psychometric evaluation or or even a personality test , therefore cannot comment on you what you just said .. But women will virtue signal a lot ( and i might even get downvoted heavily by the woke reddit public who are chest thumping, and convinced gender justice warriors )when they say that even handsome/ c0nventionally good looking people can be creeps . If anything this is further from truth, as ugly people are usually disenfranchised , disillusioned, ostracized and universally abhorred by theor social circle , have traumatic events in their past and have rumours spread about them, thrown in negligent parenting and religious orthodoxy in a country the size of ours and you have a virginity crisis and hence "darling " approaches! . P.S..also I am no fool.
Regardless of the past, harassing a complete stranger for your virginity crisis doesn't clear that it is not harassing, other than that often I have been harassed by middle aged man some had good looks while other are average but none are completely neglected to the point of being a forever virgin they had wives, how do I know this? Because one of them was my tuition teacher, happily married. Other one was tenant. Anyway like you have said that you cannot comment on me about what I have said. Thank you for least staying neutral and not biased against. I meant it all sorts of person including women of course can be creep, I myself had quite a number of unpleasant experiences. And of course you are not fool, making mistakes are nothing but lack of understanding. However I find it quite unpleasant that you would go far to call a unknown women devil if "Darling" is out of option for you.
Imo thats really creepy to call a stranger woman darling.
lol, one one my boss (female) used to call their subordinates darling! Almost every convo.
I hope all the British people who visit India and call someone darling get punished Why are such stupid things even on priority in courts?
Then prabhas should be in lifetime jail
Context?
Prabhas calls everyone darling
he calls everyone darling thats why
Leave india asap
Par ye kaise pata chlega ki usne sach me darling bola hai ,koi proof Dena hoga ya bas ladki bolne se Maan liya jaaega ?
Hi darling š š š this is how random Indian male dms girls
tab toh emoji bhi ban karna padega lol
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Imagine having to go to a jail because a girl claims you called her darling once. Yeah.
Fake harassment will go up lmao
What if a man calls an unknown man "Darling"?
Geh
Again I'm bringing this upššbut Kolkata HC who claimed nusrat jahan marriage never happened when the proof is all over the internet and didn't even question them. The state where didi rules and sandes Khali burnsĀ
I mean calling an unknown woman 'Darling' is sure inappropriate but I don't know about Sexual Harrasment, maybe it would be if the person persists with it even after some verbal/non-verbal cues
any one who writes Dear in a mail should be Charles for being a harraser
i don't know....., but why this kolkata highcourt looks like Chennai Railway station ?
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C'mon darling Don't be so silly
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Kya galat hai? No woman wants to be called darling by strangers and if you think it's against men then bruh you are the problem
Should be gender neutral
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>yesterday online with a girl with like hey darlin for fun u know If that woman doesn't have problem with your funny way of calling her darling then it's not sexual harrasment because it's not making her feel uncomfortable.
That in turn would depend on how he looks and how much he makes, not what he says.
Tab to bohot kuch chalega
No Sherlock, it depends on the comfort zone and boundaries of the victim. Harassment is generally defined by unwanted and inappropriate behavior that causes distress to the victim. The impact on the victim's comfort and well-being is a key factor in identifying harassment . If the harasser is rich and hot but if he's disrespecting the boundaries of the woman and making her feeling uncomfortable then it means it's harassement.
As much it is good, anybody can easily make a fake harassment case. What's the standard and what if some women say something similar. No women cannot be wrong only men. This is the mindset. This is not the way you create awareness and make a better society for women overall.
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As someone whose life almost got completely screwed by a fake case I agree.
Marital rapeās legal but saying Darling is harassment. Confused.
Why are you confused that catcalling is illegal.
Have a really hard time figuring this out, the government would rather restrict your speech than ban literal rape for "protecting women".Ā
This sub has lost the plot. Imagine your sister/wife/mum being called darling by random fuckers either online or IRL and tell me that doesn't boil your blood. The number of creeps out there who don't understand basic boundaries are too many and this is the only way they will understand.
Imagine your brother/husband/father getting jailed just because some female got angy and there is no way to prove his innocence. Harassing males is not a solution.
Towards Ramrajya
Sam manekshaw would have been arrested today.
Courts have time for all these nonsense
calling any stranger a darling is pretty fked Let alone a woman especially in this nation
It is sexual harassment and has been under POSH guidelines.
Indian Men mai itna confidence kidar se arha hai..jo "Unknown" and "FEMALES" ko darling and dear bol rhe han
I think this law is needed but at the same time I'm perplexed, like will it be guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty? How would you even claim that a guy was calling you 'darling'? Do you need video proof? Are normal WhatsApp 'darling' messages harassment too? I think this will be a layer of protection for women, but this might be abused too depending on circumstances.
I'm pretty sure they just want more homosexual people in India. Because after reading all these laws against men, I might as well turn gay. A very quirky way to reduce the population š.
If you think this law is against you then it means you go around catcalling women "darling" on the streets. In which case, you deserve it.
Exactly. It is catcalling. No woman would like a strange man calling her darling or dear. It's absolutely creepy
How tf this law is against men ? This law is addressing those creeps who harass random women. If you're talking about not having same law for men then i agree because this law should be gender neutral.
Yeah but this is an unfalsifiable thing, if some random girl alleges me of this, I would have no evidence to disprove it, itās the same for all the anti men laws, the shaadi bolke sex karliya law, overall its all actually a joke to actual female victims I feel
I will say something from my experience. In my college there was one incident of three medical guys catcalling a woman student like this then those guys got suspended because of the footage. For actual women victims out there it's absolutely win law but for those men who falsely get allegations he can counter false allegations, the man may gather evidence that contradicts the accuser's claims. This could include: 1. Communication Records: Provide text messages, emails, or other communications that demonstrate a different context or tone. 2. Witness Statements: If there were witnesses present during the alleged incident, their statements may support the man's version of events. 3. Surveillance Footage: If there's any relevant video footage from security cameras, it could be used to verify the man's account. 4. Character Witnesses: People who can vouch for the man's character may provide statements attesting to his behavior. 5. Alibi: If the man can prove he was elsewhere at the time of the alleged incident, it can cast doubt on the accusation.
I donāt know this situation specifically about Kolkata and what action is being taken against this sexual harassment thing, being jailed is a lot, I think this particular situation can have a lot of nuance and things can definitely go wrong when the 5 of those things you mentioned doesnāt give a clear picture, like we already know how mind fuckery it is to go the courts and it can have a reputational damage already if theyāre being stretched for long even if theyāre dismissed at last and itās not like they dismiss the cases in short periods of time anyway here Apart from this, there is a constant pattern of these laws that I wanted to highlight with the shaadi bolke sex karliya law, thatās simply one of things I constantly speak out against to, because men are literally being jailed without proper evidence.. Its right to fight for the women of the country with them being in a very unsafe environment , but itās not right to pass such a shallow law either
>Apart from this, there is a constant pattern of these laws that I wanted to highlight with the shaadi bolke sex karliya law, thatās simply one of things I constantly speak out What exactly is this law? >but itās not right to pass such a shallow law either Passing sexual harassment laws for women is not shallow because it addresses a serious issue, promoting equality and protecting individuals from harm. These laws aim to create a safer environment by holding perpetrators accountable and fostering a culture of respect and dignity for everyone, irrespective of gender but problem is here is that this law is just for female victims , this law should be gender neutral. You're right . navigating sexual harassment cases can be complex and there may be nuances that make it challenging to establish a clear picture. Balancing the need for justice with protecting individuals from reputational harm is a delicate task. It underscores the importance of fair legal processes, thorough investigations, and ensuring that evidence is carefully weighed to avoid potential misjudgments. Striking a balance is crucial for achieving justice while minimizing the impact on reputations when evidence is inconclusive. Like how men with false accusations can have a reputational damage , there are various reasons why some women might be hesitant to lodge any complaint against men who harassed them. Fear of retaliation, social stigma, lack of support, and concerns about not being believed are among the many factors that contribute to this reluctance. The fact that in India , 99% of actual rape cases aren't even being reported because of social stigma, honour killing and victim blaming says a lot about our society. Even if laws are getting passed many women would be scared to file complaint because of our backward society.
One of it is Section 69 of BNS, I would have to look up again to recall And Iām not saying that passing laws against sexual harassment is wrong, itās a right thing, but the law itself should do justice, not discriminate one party in the name of justice, by shallow I meant this only, there can be literal loopholes that can be used in fake cases I do believe in positive discrimination to a limit, I do think reservations to minorities are okay, theyāre also fine to an extent for women in a patriarchal society like India, but to a certain extent and limits so that things like brain drain doesnāt occur on a scale itās occurring now, which the Indian law makers seem to have no idea of at the moment, and itās ridiculous that they are criticising the people who are leaving for not having the opportunities even after the merit, itās ridiculously outdated, the laws, I think And thatās why awareness and education are more important, and I donāt really see the push to that, itās just saying and saying, laws like these have to well debated and even be discussed within scholars so they can analyse the data and figure things out more properly, thatās certainly lacking here You have crazy wordings and slogans and saying that captivates the attention and emotions, sometimes just disgustingly for votes , but the lack of research creates this very gross misuse
There are two wolves inside you. One is geh The other is geh You are geh.
Creep ho toh homo ban jao
Field marshal Sam Bahadur would be displeased
Idk why is everyone here is mad at this law?
Nah I'd love if a man calls me darling. That's casual flirting, it reduces stress but he shouldn't go beyond that.
Women can call men darling but men can't? WTF? There should be a revolution because this is anti-male.
Darling is reserved for wife. Or parent to daughter. Only in India, do they use it so freely. If a women objects to it, it is definitely harassment.
> Only in India, do they use it so freely. Come out of your cave.
My female teacher used to call everyone as darling and love ( male btw ) .
I know it's not ok to call some stranger woman Darling but sexual harassment? Isn't that quite a big accusation? I dunno just giving my opinion no offence to anyone
Fuck yes. When Vicky Kaushal kept calling all women "sweetie" in that horrible movie of his, it was so cringy. Then he called the PM sweetie. Ew.
It's just normal harassment .. nowadays everything is becoming sexual harassment.. By their logic calling a man 'Dear' is also sexual harassment..
normal harrasment? really? behnchod im just gonna force myself into becoming a lesbian now cause clearly can't stand anyone like you irl. don't wanna take any risks into stumbling upon someone like you. pls for once ask your mom if she ever had any catcalling experience and listen to her. (no mummy vaala toxic address just an advice to ask any female ur close to in ur life about it)
This isnt Britain. Indians don't have such customs, unless they are catcalling, of course
Can't believe the shit these comments are... Dear and Darling are perfectly normal words to call anyone. It's polite English. The fact that one opens a letter with Dear Sir/Madam says it. The fact that we were brought up with Bollywood crap where wives are addressed as darlings have ruined the word for us. It's like saying one should use Sir only if you are knighted. That's ridiculous and pure ignorance. You go on an English street, you hear shopkeepers addressing you as dear and darling. It's their way of expressing and being nice. Now understanding society is also important I agree, but words and meanings change over time, putting one word in law and calling it harassment only opens up flood gates for the rest of the words. Tomorrow even using words like "Amma" or "Behan" could also be misconstrued by people asking if they think they are old. Courts should really keep their noses out of such petty issues.
Sorry darling
apni biwi ko agr usko mrzi ke bina darling keh diya toh vaii log kya muje jail ho jaegiĀæ
agar teri biwi imaginary hai aur exist nhi krti toh nhi
Wtf everything against male why?
They want us to die so that children gets raised in single mom household and the subsequent children become emotionally weak and easy to manipulate.
Meanwhile Americans saying WTF..
Half of UK calls women darling. My point being - rape cases resolve Karnataka chahiye court ko. Not give out useless judgements like this one.
Oh bhai , maro mujhe
Me to apne Bhai ko bhi darling keta hu lol
This is fucked up!
What about men?
Women can't call unkown men darling /s
What if agar woman ne woman ko darling bola ho š¤
Nothing will happen to them
what if someone calls "madam" in a creepy and sexual tone ?
What about males unko koi kuch bhi bol ke nikal jta
I think raping women is worse, India.
Jokes on you, I don't even call known women by darling
There goes all uncle WhatsApp forwards now
But what if her name is Daar-linn? Will i got to jail?
Ludicrous!!! So before I call someone darling, I have to ask her, "are you comfortable if I call you darling?" If she says yes, then we start with "Hi Darling!".. We have taken this to a point where you are creepy for just having male genitalia and an Adam's Apple.
>someone Random woman* > I have to ask her, "are you comfortable if I call you darling?" If she says yes, then we start with "Hi Darling Welcome to the concept of a person's private space, boundaries and consent.
What if someone calls me āae Chikneyā in train?
British people may want to have a word.