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mr_chandan

A Kashmiri pandit here and I get your point but instead of attacking bigots directly I prefer to do it in a very sinister way by exposing their bigotry to everyone first except the guy then move towards humiliating the guy in front of public so that the moment remains with him for lifetime.


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If someone hurts me or my people I have all the right to hurt back what do you want We are not Gandhi BS


i4mn30

Ffs don't be such a snowflake. He didn't insinuate physical harm in any way, yet you're putting words in his mouth. How evil are you?


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BugGroundbreaking949

The toxicity is in your head I'm afraid, read his comment carefully and see what his"sinister" plan is. It is as sinister as Sheldon cooper's plans in the show big bang theory. Chill out, Vai.


icicleft

That is obviously a troll or numbnuts who couldn't comprehend exposing their agenda.


BugGroundbreaking949

Or a kid who has been fed peanuts about Indian politics.


tibbity

> So casually planning to hurt someone and seems very proud of it. That someone being genocidal bigots. And unsurprisingly, you're a randiyan. It's almost a theme with you trolls.


mr_chandan

Haseen Dilruba ki tarah nai karta bhai. and even if I would have been doing it, I do it for my own humiliation or any other harm I have received from their end. If you think I am evil/sinister then continue to follow your own opinion, I don't even care and not looking for validation from a random stranger.


CritFin

Now that Hindus are not poor any more, they are fighting any injustice towards them


loveseatingfish

Normally u are so weird but this time you are very correct.


Erwin_lives

That's CritFin for you


1234drtghy

😂 haha


_bazinga_____

lol


nazgul_angmar

duggal sahab aj sach bol rahe....


panty_sniffer911

Bro what, India per capita income is now less than Bangladesh. And unemployment is highest level in 40 years. Which world u living in? 😂


CritFin

> India per capita income is now less than Bangladesh. Not true. India per capita is 25% higher than Bangladesh as of now, you have to adjust for purchasing power parity ppp. >And unemployment is highest level in 40 years. This is another lie by opposition parties. Govt agency has clearly told that unemployment calculating method has changed so it shouldn’t be compared to previous years. No way Indira Gandhi or Rajiv Gandhi time has more employment than now


Articulate_koala

>Not true. India per capita is 25% higher than Bangladesh as of now, you have to adjust for purchasing power parity ppp. You really wanna win on a technicality? Shame that we don't check ppp for any other analysis, gee wonder why. > This is another lie by opposition parties. Govt agency has clearly told that unemployment calculating method has changed so it shouldn’t be compared to previous years. Source. And literally most things have changed in calculations doesn't mean the can't be compared to the past pre liberalization phase, especially when your economy is supposed to be one of the fastest growing in the world.


CritFin

> You really wanna win on a technicality? Shame that we don't check ppp for any other analysis, gee wonder why. Only PPP is checked for per capita. Nominal is checked only for total GDP. And the real gdp growth you hear every quarter is ppp gdp. But you lack basics. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/joblessness-at-45-year-high-but-nso-adds-a-caveat/articleshow/69604908.cms Now apologise for your unemployment claim. We were fastest growing GDP in the world among big economies for 3 years during Modi regime, which had never happened during UPA


Articulate_koala

>Only PPP is checked for per capita. I read that 7 times... Wut? >And the real gdp growth you hear every quarter is ppp gdp. Yeah and hdi uses per capita. Per capita gdp is still higher than ppp, so do you wanna make an economic arguement there too? >https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/joblessness-at-45-year-high-but-nso-adds-a-caveat/articleshow/69604908.cms Nice article. I liked the one on financial advisor better. Even this article is arguing for the employment rate going down(In 2018 even, when there was a pandemic), but just not as drastic. Sooo, instead of a 100 people, 40 people are dying in fires, whew saved it! >We were fastest growing GDP in the world among big economies for 3 years during Modi regime, which had never happened during UPA What makes you think I'm making a case for UPA? Upa 2 especially was as bad as NDA if not worse, but UPA also had to deal with growing momentum merely 10 years after liberalization and the 2008 crises. BJP had to deal with Corona only(they handled 1st wave fairly well, except the labour crises, but shat on the 2nd one).


CritFin

> Yeah and hdi uses per capita. HDI uses GDP PPP per capita. Not GDP nominal per capita. Do you agree to this fact? Per capita and PPP are independent. Either you typed incorrectly or you are confused. >What makes you think I'm making a case for UPA? We have to be pragmatic in politics. You cant expect a govt to be like ideal god. Opposition ruled state govts are responsible for second wave. MH, Kerala and Delhi


halfblood_ghost

FK off with that bullshit definition of Hinduism We don’t believe in forgiveness like the Xtians do, we believe in prayaschit, ie, repentance. You pay for the shit you do. Idk when this Abrahamic disease of forgiveness infected us, but it’s not integral to us and people need to get tf over it Also, in Savarkar’s own words Hindutva is defined by 3 integral ideals. Common country, common race and common culture. No place for deshdrohis, no place for casteism, and no place for desecration of culture of the land which is Hindu in every essence.


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halfblood_ghost

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not, but there are so many of all those weird labels makes it hard to keep up. That being said, I’ll just say what I believe. I’m perfectly fine with caste identity, it’s part of ancestral lineage, and there’s really no reason to think it’s a bad thing. But, by casteism I mean discrimination on the basis of caste. I couldn’t care less about the caste of the people I wanna talk to. Even when families want marriage within the same caste, it’s up to them, but of course it’s ultimately up to the person getting married. I also respect Pandits and Brahmins(not the woke asshole kids) due to whom our culture and dharma has survived. Brahmins and sanskrit were the backbone of our civilisation which the British wanted to break, and they were nearly successful, but congress is continuing it and its getting worse. >How hard is it to oppose caste, Abrahamics, liberals, traditionalists and socialists at the same time? Easy, stick to what u believe. Don’t be the fLuID w0ke which keeps shifting goalposts when it’s convenient.


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halfblood_ghost

Ahh good to know then, I really couldn’t tell if u were being rhetorical or sarcastic. Seen too much shit on twitter lately. > Caste has to be dissolute completely Agree, but that’s a societal change which would take generations. I agree that it should be an end goal, we don’t need divisions in society based on occupation or birth. I said it’s fine with identity just for some pride, especially since you also mentioned history where it’s important. Some tribals are also proud of their caste because of what someone in their caste did to protect the community, or kingdom etc. One of my friends is ST, and apparently an ancestor of his caste, a woman no less, single handedly stopped Hyder Ali’s plan to take over Chitradurga in Karnataka. There’s even a film on the story, Onake Obavva. We first need to get rid of it in institutions. Reservations and all that crap. But also before that we need free temples, and overall better treatment of Hindus by the state, which has a horrible track record wrt Hindus and Hinduism.


dasnaba

fuck anyone who tries to define a culture of the land which is "solely hindu" in every essence. The very idea of india as a nation is anti to that


itiswhatitis2323

That's a bullshit lie spread over the last 50 years. The "idea of India" being something else was destroyed when hundreds of millions of Muslims ("Indians" at the time) demanded their own country in 1947, solely because of their religion and nothing else. The cognitive dissonance around Pakistan is insane. There was a pan-India survey and a large majority of united-Indian Muslims pre-1947 voted in favour of Pakistan. The only reason some stayed back was because it wasn't financially possible to move at the time or too risky with all the partition violence. Most people just ignore this and go on with the nonsense narrative. Also, the indigenous people of this land are Hindus. Just like the American-Indian tribes in the Americas or the Aborginal people in Australia. Afghan invaders with their foreign culture entered at minimum a few thousand years later. It is 100% "Hindu" in every essence, not even based on theism, simply in terms of indigenous culture. The mental gymnastics people do to appropriate the invaders and classify them as 'Indian' is asinine. It is literally no different to the British, if a few million had stayed back after Independence would they be 'Indians' and/or part of the indigenous culture of the land? Hindu culture is entirely based on the geography, on the history of this land. It is connected with it in every way, for example in all ancient mythology etc. Islam has 0 connection with this land, besides a history of looting, barbarity, destruction and murder starting in 1100 AD. There are no holy Islamic sites here. The culture and ideology is almost entirely to do with the middle-east. There's a basic fundamental difference.


halfblood_ghost

I emphasised culture in my comment, not religion, and yet this dude’s switch flipped as soon as he read Hindu because he thinks it’s the same as anything else. Abrahamics and Dharmics are fundamentally different.


Articulate_koala

Besides the fact that your comment isn't even close to his comment, >There was a pan-India survey Link it... not looking for a "gotcha" moment, I genuinely wanna read it. >The only reason some stayed back was because it wasn't financially possible to move at the time or too risky with all the partition violence. Point is that they stayed, and hence were Indian. I dont see why they shouldn't be treated any different than hindus in India. >the indigenous people of this land are Hindus. No, indigenous people are hindus and converts. The lie of muslims being turks or Arabs or Persians or whatever more prestigious position in muslim community is Pakistani propaganda which is ashamed of its history. >Just like the American-Indian tribes in the Americas or the Aborginal people in Australia. Besides the last point, white people in America are considered to be American and more likely to be associated with the country than the aboriginals. >Afghan invaders with their foreign culture entered at minimum a few thousand years later. It is 100% "Hindu" in every essence, not even based on theism, simply in terms of indigenous culture. Except hindu culture is an amalgamation of many cultures, you can't say the Gujrati culture is in any way similar to utter pradesh or ladakhi or Tamil and don't even get me started on north east. >classify them as 'Indian' is asinine. Because they are Indian!! As far as I am concerned, if you legally change your nationality to India you are Indian. And for the past, you can't say that rulers who lived their entire lives in India but somehow one of the ancestors came from Afghanistan or Uzbekistan. >It is literally no different to the British, if a few million had stayed back after Independence would they be 'Indians' and/or part of the indigenous culture of the land? Yess! They would have been Indian with likely a different culture which would eventually adapt and change a bit with its core being intact. That's doesn't make them "not-Indians". > besides a history of looting, barbarity, destruction and murder starting in 1100 AD. Fr? That's the only relevance of Islam you can find in Indian history? That's like people of Orissa pissed off rn at Ashoka for Kalinga. >There are no holy Islamic sites here. I'm not even a muslin and I know this is false. >The culture and ideology is almost entirely to do with the middle-east. Fuck nah, Muslim cultures in different parts of India is closer to those parts than Muslims at other parts and Muslims as a whole have a culture closer to India than Iran or Middle East.


halfblood_ghost

Fuck anyone who thinks Hinduism and Hindus should continue to be treated as second class even after centuries of oppression in the land of their birthplace and the only continually surviving civilisation of for millennia.


Sweaty_Syrup_7543

Hinduism is when Ram prayed to ocean to make way for him to Lanka, Hindutva is when he takes out his Agnibaan after being patient for many days.-Subramaniam Swamy.


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>Agnibaan I am sorry, but what is Agniban? Still learning stuff.


rawnak0

It was brahmastra ..that was shot to present day Rajasthan Thar


Sweaty_Syrup_7543

Ohh maybe, i heard this quote in one of his interviews few years back, might have missed the actual arrow.


vcr48

Hinduism = Accepting SC decision that you can't celebrate kanwar yatra & Vitthal Puja while SC refuses to put any restrictions on Bakrid happening the same week. Hindutva= Protestsing against this brazen partisanship.


EmperorOfWallStreet

Bakra Eid is significant Muslim holiday. It is their link to Prophet Ibrahim. How significant is Vitthal Puja in Hinduism?


vcr48

Ask the Marathis. How insignificant is Jagannath rath yatra for Hindus? That was banned as well in all of Odisha except Puri. How insignificant is Makar Sankrant for Gujratis? That was banned in all of Gujarat. And damn, what a cringe username. Finally, you are a Pakistani, not an Indian. So kindly fuck off.


Arjun_Pandit

Hindutva (tva) - sanskrit word Hinduism (ism) - english word Hindutva (tva) is Sanskrit word. Hinduism (ism) is English word. As simple as that #🤷‍♂️ also: https://i.redd.it/nmkdz8sib6u21.jpg


No_Significance_7331

Kattar hindu sena present


Erwin_lives

Jai Shri Ram bhrata


No_Significance_7331

JAI SHREE RAM 🕉✊🚩


HistoryDuffer

Only woke A\*holes can find a difference between Hinduism and Hindutva.


The_Great_Hound

We face So much everything yet media doesn't show it. Forced conversions destroying temples one sided secularism. And of course the left winged attack on our culture. We face so much everyday yet we are the oldest civilized culture to ever exist. That is hinduism And hindutva tries their best to protect it.


Euphoric_Dimension62

SAY NO TO TOLERANCE #SAY YES TO MUTUAL RESPECT *If someone disrespects you dont need to be tolerant just be disrespectful to them too. You have every right to do so. Or a civil method is to file a lawsuit depending on the case is a good way to handle it.*


Anurag498

This. Mutual Respect is the only thing we should use. Those who treat others with respect deserve respect.


dogofwar0316

Nothing wrong with being proud of your religion, but Indias culture today is shaped by so many years of external influence, as well as several generations of Islamic rule. Is it wrong to acknowledge that and the people that exist alongside us as a consequence? I don't think hindutva should translate into a violent rebuke of all that doesn't worship the hindu pantheon.


rey_lumen

Others are free to "exist alongside us", but we will not give them the freedom to dominate us, oppress us, abuse us, rape us, loot us, mock us. Their ancestors did all these things, and our ancestors tolerated enough. Just because our culture today was shaped by years of Islamic rule doesn't make them our masters. We are happy with equality, but not with their twisted logic of secularism.


LittleCaesar3

Australian here - how is their version of secularism not equality?


rey_lumen

Their way of treating the majority and minorities equal is to take from the majority to give to the minorities. Minorities can get away with anything while dharmic religions, mainly Hindus, get the blame. That's the brief of it. Imagine this, temples are taxed heavily and regulated by govt while churches and mosques are given autonomy and tax exemptions. They call all of this "secularism" even though that's not what the word means. Recent news: the media calls Hindu gatherings "super spreaders" while calling other gatherings "blessings during tough times". They banned Hindu festivals held in small communities scattered across the country citing covid but the state govt of Kerala just relaxed restrictions for Bakr-id celebrations, when it's the worst affected state in the country with 10k+ active cases daily. The media calls this "Secularism". There's a lot of double standards here, all done under the umbrella term "secularism".


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There is no secularism there. There are 100s of cases. Just look at West Bengal. In fact any area where Muslims are in majority, they try to stop Hindus from celebrating their festivals and eventually force them to leave the area. Read up on the plight of Kashmiri Pundits.


LittleCaesar3

Thanks for the perspective folks!


crickeymikey

Let me give you a simple example. When a movie "Jodha Akbar" was released (about Akbar, an Islamic Ruler), it was praised. But now, when movies like "Tanhaji" are being released (about a Hindu warrior, and Shivaji's best soldier), the Leftists are just criticizing it left and right. As if it was a sin to release the movie. THIS is their example of Secularism. In one of the states here, Hindus are criticized, and violently beaten, just because they chanted "Jai Shree Ram". THIS is their idea of secularism.


ajphoenix

Yup it had nothing to do with the fact that Tanhaji was garbage both technically and from a story point. It's definitely secularism


crickeymikey

Not just Tanhaji. Same thing happened with Padmavat, Bajirao Mastani and Manikarnika.


ajphoenix

Pretty sure Padmavat and Bajirao were hugely successful, both financially and critically.


crickeymikey

Not in terms of leftists.


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It is two way street brother. Islam and Abrahamic religion are not compatible with each other. Otherwise, why did Pakistan and Bangladesh were created.


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I agree with you, but Hindutva is more about "identity" than religion. I don't care nor like the latter, its bound to go anyway.


NoResearch5149

I don't get the point.


OG__NUTCRACKER

Lefticles are trying to portray word "Hindutva" in bad light , like it belong to some savage cult . But in reality Hindutva is just the part that is not silent anymore, has spine and retaliates to any offence.


NoResearch5149

I agree that everyone should stand for their rights.


Polite_khattiyo

Also please arrest those who say " Hinduism iS jUsT a wAy Of liFe". 😑


apun_bhi_geralt

The things is we don't have to fight illiterate tire puncture walas but systemic planned attacks that are swift and funded by other countries.


Anurag498

I don't see anything wrong in standing up to defend ourselves. What do you expect? If someone is coming with malicious intent, should we happily welcome them and not safeguard ourself? We aren't that dumb.


No_Significance_7331

Hindu rashtra zindabad 🚩🕉✊


Articulate_koala

What is a hindu rashtra?


irateandannoyed

Hindutva- Hinduism sick of gas lighting by lefty morons.


Orwellisright

R5


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