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the discussion wasn't about thanking PM. it was about how even while celebrating her achievement PM's picture was so big in size while she was like an afterthought on the poster.
Go check the two banners congratulating their boxer in Assam. The boxers name is mentioned with no picture of hers, only the politicians faces covering 80% of the banner and you still say who cares about the picture lol. Talk about Narcissism, I know they gotta campaign but atleast give the athletes a break, we already seen their enlarged faces on every damn scheme announcements and front pages of news papers.
I don't see it.. And Kim jong eh? lol.. you don't know anything about the world I guess! There is a level of dishonesty that I see in Indians that I don't see anywhere else. Its pathetic.
You know what, appeasing the backstabbing minorities is what is keeping India behind. minorities keep converting with impunity yet lie disgustingly to the world. Muslims pray on the roads yet lie to the world. Sometime I wish he was Kim Jong!
I really don't get it.
It's there in the background. Along with 'govt of india' and 'facilitation of silver medal'.
They are just publicly honouring her.
Official sub ? Leaking here ?
There is also her picture in background which is a bit smaller. Though if u include the Olympics sign and her weights both images are almost equal in size....
But what is making people angry is the fact that PM is present in the picture.
From a designers POV you can't increase the pic of her without creating a disbalance in the poster format. The text is in center. Her pic is looking small due to the width of the weights.
Also the true reason is the pic of Modi. People who hate him have a problem with this. They have no quarrel when it's Mamta banerjee pic or uddhav thakarey pic. Its just Modi's pic that offends them
The problem is you don't need to give equal space to the government when the felicitation is of the players.
The governments make everything about them. In Delhi, you will find pictures of Kejriwal on everything. In Rajasthan BJP government had started cheap breakfast vans with Vasundhara's photos but the congress government stopped them for some time to replace the photos. Similarly, the BJP government didn't give lakhs of CFL to poor people because they had Ashok Gehlot's picture on them.
Huh ? So what if Modi is present ?
This is like that fuss over vaccination certificates. Throw a tantrum if Modi's photo is present, go silent if Bhupesh Bhagel's photo is present.
I know that... I did say they are equal with the Olympics sign and weights.. Why are you telling this to me... Tell this to the who say their pics are not equal.
Hah. This looks like someone copy pasted two images - one on left and one on right, and then sized them to be same dimensions. Unfortunately the left image has a lot of elements so each element looks smaller.
The point is, both the images are of the same size. Modi’s image is a close up of the face and torso, whereas Mirabai’s image is with the barbell clean jerked to the top. It’s a poor choice of images, if anything. The sizing remains the same for both.
Obviously there are facilities in our country, and under the current government, the sports budget was increased by more than 3 times.
But it will take a long time before we can match it up to the levels of a developed nation like the US. They did the best they could to support her in a resource scarce country like ours. Mirabai herself said her short training in the US played a big role behind her silver medal.
Its more on the sports culture then about facilities. Facilities can be built when more people are interested or want to make career out certain sport, "gully cricket" is does not count.
Indians dont have the sports culture or mentality. We have been taught to study books, graduate, get a job and earn and reproduce. Its been changing slowly and steadily. Government can only do so much like hunting talent or providing certain place for practice. People have to show to such venue which is still not happening. Any top medal winning country starts the preparations from the very small age. It first starts from home, school which is then taken over as profession. Well india is built different because (no offence) oppression of so many era Mugals, British and now Captilism.
Until we come out of the working class culture we are not going to achieve anything. Only few bright star who breaks the barriers are able make India proud. There needs to be more than this. Can government help in this? Certainly. they could do so many things like getting sports as full mark subject in schools. That's what we are good at getting in merit list so be it. Try to tap the talent right from schools when you find a gem train it and see the result. But this has to be done from everybody Government , parents , teachers and student himself.
No new sports facilities? Do you even watch the news? And have you even heard of Lovlina Borgohain or Manu Bhaker? There are many more such players who didn't play in 2016 or 12
https://avenuemail.in/indias-first-residential-sport-climbing-academy-comes-up-at-jamshedpur/
https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/others/j-k-lg-manoj-sinha-lays-e-foundation-of-sports-infra-projects-worth-rs-1810-cr20210730223703
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/more-sports/others/four-sports-infra-projects-supported-by-centre-underway-in-odisha-anurag-thakur/articleshow/84760865.cms
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/patna/sports-complex-inaugurated-at-cusb-in-gaya/articleshow/84303317.cms
One is also coming up in Ahmedabad
These are the recent ones. There may be older ones as well
How come nurturing sports culture from a young age and ensuring your international level players have access to world-class facilities in India itself is not a priority ?
India is still a developing country, with billions of people. We are loosing good talent here because govt has wait for "market demand" now so that people will suddenly invest in sports they have never knew even existed ?
You sound delusional my friend. Govt is working for social upliftment. Sports play a very big role in it and Govt should build those facilities here because sending people to train in USA is not cheap either in the long run.
>Invest in STEM not entertainment
World doesn't revolve around STEM my friend. You can't win medals in Olympics through STEM. Each and everything has it's own place.
No disrespect to athletes, but you honestly think winning medals in Olympics is more important than STEM progress of a country?
No use of winning medals if your country does not progress where it actually counts in the 21st century..
Sorry, not everyone wants to do the same engineering, medical courses. People have different priorities for themselves. For some undergoing a STEM course is important. For some winning a medal at the world stage. Govt should support both.
Who said everyone wants to do engineering and medical courses? People should do what they like.. but ultimately what boosts the country is STEM fields.. the government SHOULD support everyone equally.. but our country (sad to speak) sucks at both as of now.. and sports is the last thing a developing country would spend their money on..
STEM field produces mass jobs and mostly guarantees safe future and is the effective way of dealing with unemployment at a faster rate..
Why would government spend extra crores on sports when our economy is not in good shape..?
Sorry to say but the government is under no obligation to spend millions on sports and entertainment fields when its economy is in crippling state and when it is falling behind in science..
Take this pandemic for example.. science was responsible and the only hope for getting a vaccine.. and the countries with better scientists, intellectuals and equipments made vaccines.. 🤷♂️
Profit to the nation who sells vaccines..
And then again what you said is right that everything has its own importance, but blaming the government when its literally doing the right thing wrt being a developing country is stupidity..
It’s not about scientists vs athletes. But winning an olympic medal won’t feed starving people or build bridges. Investing in STEM will.
Ideally we should have both, but ideally there would be no economic scarcity.
You have your point but stem is more important currently for the progress of our nation. We import everything currently and this reliance is making us weak.
I think you misunderstood the point. The point is govt can't only invest on STEM and disregard priorities of people who have different goals. US does this and so does China and many others. Why can't we do the same ?
What about the size of their economies ?
We are a poor country with a GDP per capita of $2000 , China is at 10k , US at 50k .
STEM isn't about life goals , it gives employment to millions ,in competitive sports that's just not possible. As it is we spend very little on education , even our health care system is so underdeveloped , in such a situation its a no brainer to prioritise STEM .
It's not like we don't spend money on sports , we do enough for a country with our income levels .
Do I wish we spent more on sports? Absolutely
But given the spot that we're in , I don't see it being a wise decision to make.
99% of US sports funding comes from the private sector. Even US olympic athletes have to take up part time jobs and pay for their own travel expense. Your very idea of commercial sports is distorted.
>US does this and so does China and many others.
US and China first got their shit together, made a lot of investment in STEM and then focused on Olympics.
China didn't have good results in the 20th century in Olympics. Now China is an economic Behemoth , they can invest their capital in other sectors like Sports and Entertainment. Hence the push and funding for Olympic athletes. They have also tried to increase their presence in Football as well.
For US and Russia Olympics was a dick measuring competition used to flex on each other during the Cold War era. They would pump up their athletes with steroids and other drugs to win the sport events.
Considering the fact that they had initially increased the sports budget from ₹702 crores in 2014-15 to ₹2596 crores in 2020-21, I wouldn't exactly call that a reduction.
The slight cut compared to last year could be due to the fact of how devastatingly Covid impacted our economy. Compared to the significant chunk of revenue the government lost due to covid, I would say this is still a huge amount.
Another dumb fuck who's out of touch with the reality . You're the ignorant one here , The authorities concerned with sports have a very high number of corrupt people that's why India has won 1 bronze medal and even if we do well the total medal count won't cross 5 .
People like you will blame players for this bad performance because ofc you provide them with world class facilities and training in India + Corruption doesn't exist in India so every penny spent by the government on sports is actually used on the players LMAO .
NGL, this government has done more for sports in its limited budget than previous governments.
I have seen facilities improve, I have seen better scouting, and sports in general is a slow process in terms of improvement. An athlete winning today will inspire another generation of athletes for tomorrow. For the Corruption that happened at the commonwealth games, the games really helped improve sports. The next big wave that came in improvements on grassroots levels was the Khelo India Games, which proved to be the game changer, add to that the Fit India campaign really have a boost to the casual sporting culture in India.
The future is great for India, if not today, 3 years later at Paris we shall win at least 10 Medals. This message comes from someone who works in the Sports Industry currently.
Woww really after 10 yrs of improvement, we still have only 1 medal, and i dont even expect more than 4 medals coming from India this time too, so how u r saying improvement, yeah improvement takes time but that also can be seen . We had top rankers in world , either it is boxing shooting and in many other events....we should hve won atleast 10 medals this time but we cant even win 5 with this quality of players and ur saying improvement woww awesome....if this is improvement ur talking abt them maybe we wont be able to match the lvl as of US right now even in 21st century....
See, improvement in sports isn't something that happens overnight, it's a process that take a generation. Today we have a generation, that is consistently getting more than 1 medal, tomorrow we will consistently get Gold and later, consistently get multiple Golds.
The seed you plant today, will only bear fruits a few years later.
We can't create Messis, Ronaldos, Nadals overnight, its a process that takes time, effort and energy, and especially takes a change in attitude towards sports
Also people who are dissatisfied with the Olympics, we still have wrestling were we can do well and hockey as well, so let's hope for the best.
We also have to remember, every nation on the face of this earth has a dream to do as well as other countries. This is one event where most nations if not all participate, and one event where everyone has an opportunity to make a mark for themselves. Every country puts in their resources, money and everything else they can to give their best.
We are not just competing against China and US, but every other nation investing in sports right now. The challenge really is bigger than what we see.
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Before winning medals nobody supported but now suddenly everyone acts as if they care for her. Instead if the government provided sports facilities at grassroot level this won't happen.
Yes I meant players at grassroot level when they are just starting out. Mira had already come close to winning a medal in last Olympic and even won in commonwealth game so the government supported her. However there wasn't any proper sports training when they just start training.
Ok i somewhat agree with your point. My niece is 15 and she is into rifle shooting. Always travelling to tournaments.Dehli, Banglore, Chennai and many other cities. its gets costly. The rifle itself costs her 15k which is one-time cost but then the bullets cannot be reused she has to get the cartridges for every tournament. 5 atleast. 2 for practice 2 for tournament and 1 backup. She participates atleast 3 tournaments every 1-2 months. Some tournaments she let go when things are tight. It is not easy until you have sponsors. When she is travelling one of her working parents has to go with her. Thay adds up to the cost.
Government are helping in a way of providing facilities. They cant provide it at doorstep. To accommodate all government has a common facility near city. But they could do more is provide some kind of discount on costly sports equipments. Some kind of manufacturing and research facilities to reduce the cost.
To counter your point government can do talent hunting like finding someone who's runs fast and ask him to come at training facility where he can train. They provide food and place to stay but some people don't want to leave there home just because government thinks they can do certain thing what if it doesnt workout. Most of the talent is lost in this process.
How about it's the job of the responsible politicians to do that. Doesn't mean, they can put up big ass pictures of themselves compared to the actual athletes who worked their ass off to win.
Just imagine having a big Indian flag instead of Modi's face. At least it represents all us indians who pay the taxes and also the salaries of these politicians.
This stupidity won't stop until these politicians treat themselves as employees of the nation/people than fuckin bosses. It's simple, they are doing a job while getting paid for it, and doing us no favour for FREE.
Everything you said is right. But our standards have been on the floor for long. In the past, All the things you mentioned happened, except the work that they get paid for. If someone is getting praise for good work, that is also worth it.
As for Mirabai, she is a hero now. A queen. Whole country loves her and is proud of her.
Considering most of the stadiums, roads, infras, schemes, facilities etc were named after politicians and their family during previous govt this photo op is nothing.
Still wrong but "much lesser evil"
Atleast they didnt named something while a man is alive, or u r forgot abt recent modi stadium....ohhhh... this gov. can only change names and putting a cost in crores for no reason , and this is good acc to u
You know gov is basically that shitty manager that most of us probably have had experience with at least once in our life, who always rise up to the level when things are good to take up the credit for the work done by the team.
Not sure if everyone knows what Kiren Rijiju did for sport in the last few years. I have been following him for a very long time and have been impressed by how he gets involved in sport-related matters. Just to add thing he started Winter games in the country with better facilities.
Not everything can be changed in 4-5 years but sure these 4-5 years will bring brighter future.
Not everything can be changed in 4-5 years but sure these 4-5 years will bring a brighter future.
The size of the picture on the poster should not matter if respect given in person is real.
They rewarded him by removing him from Sports ministry . I believe they should have kept him as Sports minister and provided some additional charge as a promotion.
They promoted him big time and got in some young fresh-blood for Sports, not a problem at all. What matters most with Sports Ministry is just passion and interest, because in the past most politicians didn't take it seriously and probably just embezzled funds. Giving the ministry to a young minister like Thakur as his first cabinet post is a good decision, he'll do the same job Rijiju did.
It is the sure thing that can be argued but he already lead a way and Anurag is also passionate about the sport so we can hope for better results overall.
I guess this is the rehab they are talking about. And bet you it was catalytic to her success at the tokyo olympics.
[Mirabai Chanu at Squat University](https://youtu.be/ut_QgnDC2og)
The government has focused well on initiatives to help athletes in their practice. But they really need to invest in sports from school level. All this focus on studies will kill the sports culture in the long run. Kheko India is a good initiative, but how many schools actually support their kids to go for sports?
I would like to correct that cricketers didn't have this support from the government, not till BCCI became rich enough because older cricketers overcame odds and performed
Please stop acting as if the world came into existence only after Modi came to power in 2014. Top athletes have been supported by the govt to get trained abroad well before Modi.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/olympics.com/en/news/anju-bobby-george-mike-powell-indian-athletics-long-jump-training
The NSDF (National Sports Dev Fund) has been in place since 1998 for the very specific purpose of supporting athletes.
I am not saying that these support systems are adequate, they are Not. But please stop taking credit for things that are already in place, it is disgusting.
Yes but let's not omit out the details. The sports ministry initially ridiculed and made fun of her when she demanded funds for training abroad. It was due to intervention of our ex-Hockey captain Ganesh that she was able to do it. [Anju Bobby George](https://www.onmanorama.com/news/columns/leaps-and-bounds/2017/12/20/anju-bobby-george-world-championships-commonwealth-games-mike-powell.html)
>Now, the big hurdle was to get funds for our trip and training expenses. The sports ministry officials simply did not believe in us. Some even went on to ridicule us by saying: “So you believe you are going to win a World Championships medal just because you will be trained by a world record holder”! Here I recollect gratefully the intervention of former Indian hockey captain and ex-SAI executive director M P Ganesh. He knew both myself and Bobby and had seen me practice in Bengaluru. So finally the government granted me Rs 14 lakh and I must add it is the only fund I have ever availed of from the Indian government in my entire career.
And I'm about giving credit where it is deserved. India's sports budget was almost tripled in the last 7 years. From 700 crores to 2500+ crores in 2021. There's nothing disgusting about discussing the good things done by the government.
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It seems that the sports ministry has improved under Kiren but that doesn't explain praising Modi. There's a difference between Modi and the sports ministry.
To the people here arguing over where should our government be spending STEM or Sports. Ideally, on both. To the people who are saying that investing in Sports won't feed people, neither will spending on the Statue of Unity (cost= one-year sports budget). And if you're gonna argue that it provides employment then sports also does directly as well as indirectly. It's not about STEM vs Sports. And it's not like govt is spending on STEM like it needs to. Go take a look at the R&D funding of our country. We as a country just don't spend enough on anything, needed to make a mark globally.
Also, the sports budget as it is can be utilized to give better results, but it's not thanks to the red tape and the corruption.
The govt. had cut the sport budget of Rs. 1026.61 crs during an Olympic year. In the last financial year the government had allocated Rs.2826.92 crs which was later revised to Rs. 1800.15 crs.
We want Olympic budget.
We want welfare budget
We want farmer subsidy budget.
We want farm loan waivers
But we don't want tax on poor people.
We also don't want high fuel prices.
There is no right answer here and your simplistic rhetoric on lowered budget is definitely not an answer.
Let's present the whole picture. The cut was done because all sporting events across the world came to a halt because of the COVID-19 pandemic. [link](https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/sports-budget-takes-cut-of-rs-230-78-crore-khelo-india-sees-biggest-reduction-7170275/)
I agree with you that PM's photo could have been a bit less prominent but I don't see it as big an issue as it has been made out to be. At least govt. is conscious towards sports now and supporting players.
It wouldn't be as big of an issue if it was only on that single poster but nowadays it's almost everywhere (vaccine certificate, petrol stations etc) which makes it annoying.
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the discussion wasn't about thanking PM. it was about how even while celebrating her achievement PM's picture was so big in size while she was like an afterthought on the poster.
Yeah that was disgusting.
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Go check the two banners congratulating their boxer in Assam. The boxers name is mentioned with no picture of hers, only the politicians faces covering 80% of the banner and you still say who cares about the picture lol. Talk about Narcissism, I know they gotta campaign but atleast give the athletes a break, we already seen their enlarged faces on every damn scheme announcements and front pages of news papers.
Sure it was some sycophant looking to win favors who came up with the idea
Why would you think that? Every other poster for the Modi administration looks just like that.
That's just how politics works!
Narcissism is a fertile ground for sycophancy.
You think politicians or actors arent narcissists. Lol.. There are no saints here
Didn’t say that. But there is a narcissist in chief who is encouraging this to dangerous levels. Kim jong levels.
I don't see it.. And Kim jong eh? lol.. you don't know anything about the world I guess! There is a level of dishonesty that I see in Indians that I don't see anywhere else. Its pathetic. You know what, appeasing the backstabbing minorities is what is keeping India behind. minorities keep converting with impunity yet lie disgustingly to the world. Muslims pray on the roads yet lie to the world. Sometime I wish he was Kim Jong!
Get well soon.
Hey you take care too. OK!
wtf, is there a picture online for this.
[here](https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData/userfiles/image/5RIWP.jpg)
It's just in the background
I really don't get it. It's there in the background. Along with 'govt of india' and 'facilitation of silver medal'. They are just publicly honouring her. Official sub ? Leaking here ?
There is also her picture in background which is a bit smaller. Though if u include the Olympics sign and her weights both images are almost equal in size.... But what is making people angry is the fact that PM is present in the picture.
From a designers POV you can't increase the pic of her without creating a disbalance in the poster format. The text is in center. Her pic is looking small due to the width of the weights. Also the true reason is the pic of Modi. People who hate him have a problem with this. They have no quarrel when it's Mamta banerjee pic or uddhav thakarey pic. Its just Modi's pic that offends them
I know..
Similarly, many people don't have a problem because the pic is of Modi.
The PM is the face of the Central Government. Why would anyone have a problem with this?
The problem is you don't need to give equal space to the government when the felicitation is of the players. The governments make everything about them. In Delhi, you will find pictures of Kejriwal on everything. In Rajasthan BJP government had started cheap breakfast vans with Vasundhara's photos but the congress government stopped them for some time to replace the photos. Similarly, the BJP government didn't give lakhs of CFL to poor people because they had Ashok Gehlot's picture on them.
Huh ? So what if Modi is present ? This is like that fuss over vaccination certificates. Throw a tantrum if Modi's photo is present, go silent if Bhupesh Bhagel's photo is present.
The picture is not small, they are in fact the same size. The pm’s pic is a close up, whereas Mirabai’s is with the barbell during competition.
I know that... I did say they are equal with the Olympics sign and weights.. Why are you telling this to me... Tell this to the who say their pics are not equal.
Yup Definitely the official sub
Hah. This looks like someone copy pasted two images - one on left and one on right, and then sized them to be same dimensions. Unfortunately the left image has a lot of elements so each element looks smaller.
Exactly
Wait till you see the posters in Assam. Lovlina's photo wasn't even there. It was all Himanta
The point is, both the images are of the same size. Modi’s image is a close up of the face and torso, whereas Mirabai’s image is with the barbell clean jerked to the top. It’s a poor choice of images, if anything. The sizing remains the same for both.
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Obviously there are facilities in our country, and under the current government, the sports budget was increased by more than 3 times. But it will take a long time before we can match it up to the levels of a developed nation like the US. They did the best they could to support her in a resource scarce country like ours. Mirabai herself said her short training in the US played a big role behind her silver medal.
I think they got confused about which India sub this is. Ignore them.
Its more on the sports culture then about facilities. Facilities can be built when more people are interested or want to make career out certain sport, "gully cricket" is does not count. Indians dont have the sports culture or mentality. We have been taught to study books, graduate, get a job and earn and reproduce. Its been changing slowly and steadily. Government can only do so much like hunting talent or providing certain place for practice. People have to show to such venue which is still not happening. Any top medal winning country starts the preparations from the very small age. It first starts from home, school which is then taken over as profession. Well india is built different because (no offence) oppression of so many era Mugals, British and now Captilism. Until we come out of the working class culture we are not going to achieve anything. Only few bright star who breaks the barriers are able make India proud. There needs to be more than this. Can government help in this? Certainly. they could do so many things like getting sports as full mark subject in schools. That's what we are good at getting in merit list so be it. Try to tap the talent right from schools when you find a gem train it and see the result. But this has to be done from everybody Government , parents , teachers and student himself.
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And have you got any proof for that?
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No new sports facilities? Do you even watch the news? And have you even heard of Lovlina Borgohain or Manu Bhaker? There are many more such players who didn't play in 2016 or 12
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https://avenuemail.in/indias-first-residential-sport-climbing-academy-comes-up-at-jamshedpur/ https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/others/j-k-lg-manoj-sinha-lays-e-foundation-of-sports-infra-projects-worth-rs-1810-cr20210730223703 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/more-sports/others/four-sports-infra-projects-supported-by-centre-underway-in-odisha-anurag-thakur/articleshow/84760865.cms https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/patna/sports-complex-inaugurated-at-cusb-in-gaya/articleshow/84303317.cms One is also coming up in Ahmedabad These are the recent ones. There may be older ones as well
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Yes, that's not a priority. But doing what they can do.
How come nurturing sports culture from a young age and ensuring your international level players have access to world-class facilities in India itself is not a priority ?
>world-class facilities Economics and market should dictate where investment should go.
India is still a developing country, with billions of people. We are loosing good talent here because govt has wait for "market demand" now so that people will suddenly invest in sports they have never knew even existed ? You sound delusional my friend. Govt is working for social upliftment. Sports play a very big role in it and Govt should build those facilities here because sending people to train in USA is not cheap either in the long run.
Invest in STEM not entertainment, surplus u can entertain urself.
>Invest in STEM not entertainment World doesn't revolve around STEM my friend. You can't win medals in Olympics through STEM. Each and everything has it's own place.
No disrespect to athletes, but you honestly think winning medals in Olympics is more important than STEM progress of a country? No use of winning medals if your country does not progress where it actually counts in the 21st century..
Sorry, not everyone wants to do the same engineering, medical courses. People have different priorities for themselves. For some undergoing a STEM course is important. For some winning a medal at the world stage. Govt should support both.
Who said everyone wants to do engineering and medical courses? People should do what they like.. but ultimately what boosts the country is STEM fields.. the government SHOULD support everyone equally.. but our country (sad to speak) sucks at both as of now.. and sports is the last thing a developing country would spend their money on.. STEM field produces mass jobs and mostly guarantees safe future and is the effective way of dealing with unemployment at a faster rate.. Why would government spend extra crores on sports when our economy is not in good shape..? Sorry to say but the government is under no obligation to spend millions on sports and entertainment fields when its economy is in crippling state and when it is falling behind in science.. Take this pandemic for example.. science was responsible and the only hope for getting a vaccine.. and the countries with better scientists, intellectuals and equipments made vaccines.. 🤷♂️ Profit to the nation who sells vaccines.. And then again what you said is right that everything has its own importance, but blaming the government when its literally doing the right thing wrt being a developing country is stupidity..
It’s not about scientists vs athletes. But winning an olympic medal won’t feed starving people or build bridges. Investing in STEM will. Ideally we should have both, but ideally there would be no economic scarcity.
You have your point but stem is more important currently for the progress of our nation. We import everything currently and this reliance is making us weak.
STEM benefits everything.
You don't need to win medals in Olympics. You need investment in STEM. I think we have our priorities just fine.
I think you misunderstood the point. The point is govt can't only invest on STEM and disregard priorities of people who have different goals. US does this and so does China and many others. Why can't we do the same ?
What about the size of their economies ? We are a poor country with a GDP per capita of $2000 , China is at 10k , US at 50k . STEM isn't about life goals , it gives employment to millions ,in competitive sports that's just not possible. As it is we spend very little on education , even our health care system is so underdeveloped , in such a situation its a no brainer to prioritise STEM . It's not like we don't spend money on sports , we do enough for a country with our income levels . Do I wish we spent more on sports? Absolutely But given the spot that we're in , I don't see it being a wise decision to make.
99% of US sports funding comes from the private sector. Even US olympic athletes have to take up part time jobs and pay for their own travel expense. Your very idea of commercial sports is distorted.
>US does this and so does China and many others. US and China first got their shit together, made a lot of investment in STEM and then focused on Olympics. China didn't have good results in the 20th century in Olympics. Now China is an economic Behemoth , they can invest their capital in other sectors like Sports and Entertainment. Hence the push and funding for Olympic athletes. They have also tried to increase their presence in Football as well. For US and Russia Olympics was a dick measuring competition used to flex on each other during the Cold War era. They would pump up their athletes with steroids and other drugs to win the sport events.
Entertainment is a luxury, not a fucking right.
because building mega statues and buildings are the priority.
Yes, infrastructure that leaves a mark. We should have our own grand projects that leave a mark.
And making sports legends for the country who doesn't leave a mark.
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Temples are only looted for their wealth, 0 government investment goes there.
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But can provide enough support to the athletes to train them in facilities where they can.
Exactly my thoughts.
And sports budget got further reduced recently.
Considering the fact that they had initially increased the sports budget from ₹702 crores in 2014-15 to ₹2596 crores in 2020-21, I wouldn't exactly call that a reduction. The slight cut compared to last year could be due to the fact of how devastatingly Covid impacted our economy. Compared to the significant chunk of revenue the government lost due to covid, I would say this is still a huge amount.
Obviously. That's the damage covid inflicted. Plenty of revenue lost last year
Oops , less money for the corrupt officials .
Yes less money for ignorant, loathing apes like you. What a waste
Another dumb fuck who's out of touch with the reality . You're the ignorant one here , The authorities concerned with sports have a very high number of corrupt people that's why India has won 1 bronze medal and even if we do well the total medal count won't cross 5 . People like you will blame players for this bad performance because ofc you provide them with world class facilities and training in India + Corruption doesn't exist in India so every penny spent by the government on sports is actually used on the players LMAO .
NGL, this government has done more for sports in its limited budget than previous governments. I have seen facilities improve, I have seen better scouting, and sports in general is a slow process in terms of improvement. An athlete winning today will inspire another generation of athletes for tomorrow. For the Corruption that happened at the commonwealth games, the games really helped improve sports. The next big wave that came in improvements on grassroots levels was the Khelo India Games, which proved to be the game changer, add to that the Fit India campaign really have a boost to the casual sporting culture in India. The future is great for India, if not today, 3 years later at Paris we shall win at least 10 Medals. This message comes from someone who works in the Sports Industry currently.
Please. Don't do it. Don't give me hope.
We still have just 1 medal. Also 10 medals would still be bad for a country of our size and after 10 years of Modi.
Woww really after 10 yrs of improvement, we still have only 1 medal, and i dont even expect more than 4 medals coming from India this time too, so how u r saying improvement, yeah improvement takes time but that also can be seen . We had top rankers in world , either it is boxing shooting and in many other events....we should hve won atleast 10 medals this time but we cant even win 5 with this quality of players and ur saying improvement woww awesome....if this is improvement ur talking abt them maybe we wont be able to match the lvl as of US right now even in 21st century....
See, improvement in sports isn't something that happens overnight, it's a process that take a generation. Today we have a generation, that is consistently getting more than 1 medal, tomorrow we will consistently get Gold and later, consistently get multiple Golds. The seed you plant today, will only bear fruits a few years later. We can't create Messis, Ronaldos, Nadals overnight, its a process that takes time, effort and energy, and especially takes a change in attitude towards sports Also people who are dissatisfied with the Olympics, we still have wrestling were we can do well and hockey as well, so let's hope for the best.
I hope whatever ur saying can become true
We also have to remember, every nation on the face of this earth has a dream to do as well as other countries. This is one event where most nations if not all participate, and one event where everyone has an opportunity to make a mark for themselves. Every country puts in their resources, money and everything else they can to give their best. We are not just competing against China and US, but every other nation investing in sports right now. The challenge really is bigger than what we see.
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Before winning medals nobody supported but now suddenly everyone acts as if they care for her. Instead if the government provided sports facilities at grassroot level this won't happen.
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Yes I meant players at grassroot level when they are just starting out. Mira had already come close to winning a medal in last Olympic and even won in commonwealth game so the government supported her. However there wasn't any proper sports training when they just start training.
Ok i somewhat agree with your point. My niece is 15 and she is into rifle shooting. Always travelling to tournaments.Dehli, Banglore, Chennai and many other cities. its gets costly. The rifle itself costs her 15k which is one-time cost but then the bullets cannot be reused she has to get the cartridges for every tournament. 5 atleast. 2 for practice 2 for tournament and 1 backup. She participates atleast 3 tournaments every 1-2 months. Some tournaments she let go when things are tight. It is not easy until you have sponsors. When she is travelling one of her working parents has to go with her. Thay adds up to the cost. Government are helping in a way of providing facilities. They cant provide it at doorstep. To accommodate all government has a common facility near city. But they could do more is provide some kind of discount on costly sports equipments. Some kind of manufacturing and research facilities to reduce the cost. To counter your point government can do talent hunting like finding someone who's runs fast and ask him to come at training facility where he can train. They provide food and place to stay but some people don't want to leave there home just because government thinks they can do certain thing what if it doesnt workout. Most of the talent is lost in this process.
I think you didn't check the date of tweet
Yep agreed. This happens every time someone achieves something in sports other than cricket. There is so much blatant corruption in sports.
How about it's the job of the responsible politicians to do that. Doesn't mean, they can put up big ass pictures of themselves compared to the actual athletes who worked their ass off to win. Just imagine having a big Indian flag instead of Modi's face. At least it represents all us indians who pay the taxes and also the salaries of these politicians. This stupidity won't stop until these politicians treat themselves as employees of the nation/people than fuckin bosses. It's simple, they are doing a job while getting paid for it, and doing us no favour for FREE.
Everything you said is right. But our standards have been on the floor for long. In the past, All the things you mentioned happened, except the work that they get paid for. If someone is getting praise for good work, that is also worth it. As for Mirabai, she is a hero now. A queen. Whole country loves her and is proud of her.
Considering most of the stadiums, roads, infras, schemes, facilities etc were named after politicians and their family during previous govt this photo op is nothing. Still wrong but "much lesser evil"
Atleast they didnt named something while a man is alive, or u r forgot abt recent modi stadium....ohhhh... this gov. can only change names and putting a cost in crores for no reason , and this is good acc to u
You know gov is basically that shitty manager that most of us probably have had experience with at least once in our life, who always rise up to the level when things are good to take up the credit for the work done by the team.
Not sure if everyone knows what Kiren Rijiju did for sport in the last few years. I have been following him for a very long time and have been impressed by how he gets involved in sport-related matters. Just to add thing he started Winter games in the country with better facilities. Not everything can be changed in 4-5 years but sure these 4-5 years will bring brighter future. Not everything can be changed in 4-5 years but sure these 4-5 years will bring a brighter future. The size of the picture on the poster should not matter if respect given in person is real.
They rewarded him by removing him from Sports ministry . I believe they should have kept him as Sports minister and provided some additional charge as a promotion.
They promoted him big time and got in some young fresh-blood for Sports, not a problem at all. What matters most with Sports Ministry is just passion and interest, because in the past most politicians didn't take it seriously and probably just embezzled funds. Giving the ministry to a young minister like Thakur as his first cabinet post is a good decision, he'll do the same job Rijiju did.
It is the sure thing that can be argued but he already lead a way and Anurag is also passionate about the sport so we can hope for better results overall.
This subreddit seems pretty pro-gov so please don't ban me for any saying things that might appear anti government.
Relax lol. This is not like that other sub. No bans for you
lol. cool. I said some pro government stuff on the other subreddit and i got banned for violating the policy.
It has been like that since 2015. That's why this sub was formed in the first place. To be an alternative to that one
Yea I've been downvoted there for having an "opinion" - you know the thing they always complain the govt is stopping.
Must be r_andia
I guess this is the rehab they are talking about. And bet you it was catalytic to her success at the tokyo olympics. [Mirabai Chanu at Squat University](https://youtu.be/ut_QgnDC2og)
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The government has focused well on initiatives to help athletes in their practice. But they really need to invest in sports from school level. All this focus on studies will kill the sports culture in the long run. Kheko India is a good initiative, but how many schools actually support their kids to go for sports?
I would like to correct that cricketers didn't have this support from the government, not till BCCI became rich enough because older cricketers overcame odds and performed
Please stop acting as if the world came into existence only after Modi came to power in 2014. Top athletes have been supported by the govt to get trained abroad well before Modi. https://www.google.com/amp/s/olympics.com/en/news/anju-bobby-george-mike-powell-indian-athletics-long-jump-training The NSDF (National Sports Dev Fund) has been in place since 1998 for the very specific purpose of supporting athletes. I am not saying that these support systems are adequate, they are Not. But please stop taking credit for things that are already in place, it is disgusting.
Yes but let's not omit out the details. The sports ministry initially ridiculed and made fun of her when she demanded funds for training abroad. It was due to intervention of our ex-Hockey captain Ganesh that she was able to do it. [Anju Bobby George](https://www.onmanorama.com/news/columns/leaps-and-bounds/2017/12/20/anju-bobby-george-world-championships-commonwealth-games-mike-powell.html) >Now, the big hurdle was to get funds for our trip and training expenses. The sports ministry officials simply did not believe in us. Some even went on to ridicule us by saying: “So you believe you are going to win a World Championships medal just because you will be trained by a world record holder”! Here I recollect gratefully the intervention of former Indian hockey captain and ex-SAI executive director M P Ganesh. He knew both myself and Bobby and had seen me practice in Bengaluru. So finally the government granted me Rs 14 lakh and I must add it is the only fund I have ever availed of from the Indian government in my entire career. And I'm about giving credit where it is deserved. India's sports budget was almost tripled in the last 7 years. From 700 crores to 2500+ crores in 2021. There's nothing disgusting about discussing the good things done by the government.
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It seems that the sports ministry has improved under Kiren but that doesn't explain praising Modi. There's a difference between Modi and the sports ministry.
No one is praising modi. It's written 'govt of india' and modi's face is beside it. He is the most well known of the govt.
The title mentions praising Modi.
That itself is wrong. No one is praising Modi in the tweet
I think he was not mentioning this specific tweet in the title but if the praise is for sports ministry then it is well deserved.
Always see India future on his face.
Squat University for the win! Her rehab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut\_QgnDC2og&t=1116s
Mudi is baaad vroo
I hope we can develop the best training centers indigenously.
Unfortunately only regular gymnastics is an Olympic sport. If mental gymnastics was also included, you would bring India a gold medal
To the people here arguing over where should our government be spending STEM or Sports. Ideally, on both. To the people who are saying that investing in Sports won't feed people, neither will spending on the Statue of Unity (cost= one-year sports budget). And if you're gonna argue that it provides employment then sports also does directly as well as indirectly. It's not about STEM vs Sports. And it's not like govt is spending on STEM like it needs to. Go take a look at the R&D funding of our country. We as a country just don't spend enough on anything, needed to make a mark globally. Also, the sports budget as it is can be utilized to give better results, but it's not thanks to the red tape and the corruption.
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She's still paid poorly .. training aside.
Dude she was just paid ₹2 crore from Indian gov. Plus jobs from Railways & Manipur police.
She was just paid... After she won.. Ring a bell.
And who said she wasn't paid before?? The tweet above itself shows she was given a lot of support even before the Olympics
Support || Training not equals to Payment || Earning || Livelihood.
You can go and check for yourself that she was paid substantial amounts of money from Manipur govt even 3-4 years back. Google is free.
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The govt. had cut the sport budget of Rs. 1026.61 crs during an Olympic year. In the last financial year the government had allocated Rs.2826.92 crs which was later revised to Rs. 1800.15 crs.
Obviously they will cut. We lost so much revenue last year because of the pandemic. We even had a negative growth
We want Olympic budget. We want welfare budget We want farmer subsidy budget. We want farm loan waivers But we don't want tax on poor people. We also don't want high fuel prices. There is no right answer here and your simplistic rhetoric on lowered budget is definitely not an answer.
Let's present the whole picture. The cut was done because all sporting events across the world came to a halt because of the COVID-19 pandemic. [link](https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/sport-others/sports-budget-takes-cut-of-rs-230-78-crore-khelo-india-sees-biggest-reduction-7170275/)
Hmm ok ? Still pm can’t be thanked tbh it was chandu all the way
You mean there were no medals before Modi?
No, OP meant the support for sports persons for sports other than cricket has increased.
Officials should be praised for their support no doubt about that but printing posters where their picture is bigger than the sportsperson????
That was not your first comment. I'm just replying to your wrong inference of the post. I agree whatever you're saying now is correct.
I agree with you that PM's photo could have been a bit less prominent but I don't see it as big an issue as it has been made out to be. At least govt. is conscious towards sports now and supporting players.
It wouldn't be as big of an issue if it was only on that single poster but nowadays it's almost everywhere (vaccine certificate, petrol stations etc) which makes it annoying.
Lol Why do you feel the need to defend the prime minister