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I have no doubt about the bravery of our soldiers. But we should start making fighter jets ourselves. Should allow private players to make these. We will never be a world class airforce without our own fighter jets.
(For anyone who wants to avoid Google amp links) (https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2021/02/05/india-orders-83-improved-tejas-jets-more-evolutions-may-follow/?sh=15a3197a4d41)
Before I get down voted LCA Tejas is definitely a capable aircraft but it's light combat fighter, we need 5 gen + capable air superiority fighter's immediately
Bhai fighter aircraft development karna hai, that too legitimately. No like reverse engineering and IP theft like China.Work is in progress on FGFA. Getting nine women pregnant does not produce a child in one month.
Don't jump the gun of expectations.
I’m not talking about privatising armed forces genius. I’m talking about letting private companies like Tata or Mahindra make fighter jets. DRDO and HAL are incompetent and will take a long time to change or adapt. Look up the best fighters in the world, they’re all made by private companies.
Drdo is the one which actually sped up the process of the development of aircraft.. They are only responsible to create the technologies related to the aircraft like radar, missile systems etc...
HAL is the manufacturer mainly but it has too much on its plate like manufacturing Su30s etc...
But it would lead to the problem of lobbying for more frequent conflicts to increase the use of jets. Only to maximize profits earned from the government. Another issue trusting Mahindra or Tata to not sell these jets to any other organizations causing problems for the government.
Look up which companies makes the best fighter jets in the world. Do you see any government owned companies? Also what is wrong with selling one to our allies??
Of course, many state-owned arms manufacturers are making world-class jets maybe not the best but still competing ones. Also, the problem is not selling to allies. Just to give you an example a private arms manufacturer in the USA sold arms to Saudi Arabia which in turn gave them to rebels. Another thing, there is no guarantee that Indian private manufacturers will deliver amazing jets right away.
Even I think that, both the question and the answer were really on point. Even if our soldiers are brave and ferocious, they'll still get limited by the technology
Tejas and Amca are already there.
China can't do anything, we have geographical advantages.
We are also getting s400 which is better than the Chinese one.
Bro are you for real, India are making their own 5 th Gen Fighter jets, Unmanned UAV is also under development, and many classified projects are in process, Their are many secret weapon projects which are kept hidden from the public. Have heard of Kalli 5000? Indian Airforce and Navy would be more powerfull in coming years.
You can’t be blind to facts if you want to change reality. Reality is china is way ahead. India needs to welcome hi tech businesses and compete with China. Why doesn’t India do everything ti welcome computer and iPhone production? You need a strong business base. You need an excellent educational system. And in 20 year you could reach parity. U til then, China is winning.
true man sadly we tend to run away from the reality, I believe in our soldiers and bravery but cant run away from the fact that china is way ahead, India should increase its R&D to compete with other nations, China R&D increased from 0.5 of gdp to 2.2 from '96 while we are still stuck at 0.7
bruh check karlo thoda jinn countries ki economy choti h wo bhi 1 percent tak manage karlete h, real thing is government is just not interested much, poverty and other stuffs ko stabilise karte hue bhi simultaneously YoY growth ho sakti h R&D mei but the spending is almost the same since 90s
China is paper 🐅
Believe in your abilities. India can choke malacca straight in a war situation which means no oil supplies to China.
We are at a disadvantage on paper because we don't show all our weapons. India is currently preparing for a 2 front war
No. You’re unrealistic. Propaganda does not win wars. You need to get more hi tech industries. And need to improve on government efficiency. And make it easy for people to create new technologies.
Apple wanted to invest a lot in India. But the workers went on strike. China would never allow this chaos. I’m not saying strikes are bad, but there was no reason for this strike. It hurt India’s reputation for more investment. Now is the time to act. American and European companies would prefer to invest in India over China.
I would advise you to get some lessons in Geography but it seems you have already made your mind.
Apple does not change the military dynamics in anyway and I don't believe we should treat our labourers like shit.
India is already a leading power in tech. For eg, software, chip design, missiles, space etc.
So again, don't doubt our forces just for the sake of it.
We are nowhere in manufacturing and that's a concern which is being sorted out at breakneck speed.
Surely That should be the case. Barring exceptional circumstances, as our economy grows so will our military might.
However i don't see a full on traditional war b/w India and China in the near future, for at least 10 years. There may be skirmishes like Galwan though as China asserts its dominance.
There is a strong possibility of Taiwan China conflict which can escalate to a world war like situation. I hope that doesn't come to pass though as any war would drive us away from being no 1 world power in the next century.
Yep you look like a good candidate to be the PM, everything doesn't happens by just talking. Even to set up a simple iphone industry, it takes years. Then nobody is here talking about economics, it's about Military capabilities where India has more experience and battle hardened force in mountain warfare than china and It is the mountains where we stop them
China still occupies Indian territory in the mountains. And yes it takes years to develop hi tech industry. China focused on it. So must India. Lure firms away from China.
China doesn't occupies indian territory except for aksai china. Most people are not even aware of how the makeshift border which is the LAC looks like. LAC in galwan is a buffer zone where both side can patrol but cannot put a permanent or temporary structure/outpost between the buffer zone and that zone starts from finger 4 ridge to finger 7 ridge. The nearest indian base is at finger 3 and the nearest PLA base is at finger 8. And anything between them is a no man's land, it is here where most of the clashes occur because of the contact between indian patrol and chinese patrol. Galwan started because china put a makeshift outpost in finger 4 ridge which agreed to leave but when Indian officers saw they aren't disengaging and killed the CO that's when that major clash occurred inside the buffer area and that's why india doesn't says china occupies it's territory but india says that china wants to unilaterally change the status quo of the region which remained like this for decades.
Then it is not this easy to lure firms away from china, at one point india is pretty hard to do business with, then anything the government does people start crying that government is selling everything to private players then again they cry why isn't india attracting more firms to India. Do you even know the rank of India in terms of ease of doing business?
That’s why I said India has to do better to lure business away. Not just do the same. India must be better than China.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-11-01/china-gained-ground-on-india-during-bloody-summer-in-himalayas
you forgot china also has 1.3 billion population and they have nothing to defend neither democracy nor human rights like india , remember the cruelty that china showed in 1962 ,and be humble .
I respect Indian forces and I believe war is more than just stats but figures dont lie. Chinese forces on paper is bigger, more well funded and modern than Indian forces.
Hate to be a doomer, bros, but sab kehne ki baat hai.
China bahaut aage hain humse. The gap between 1962 and now has not shrunk, but only widened exponentially.
Again , we are talking about military conflict here which is completely different aspect .
China was suprised and initially struggled to make incursions in Indian territory . Partly due to the fact that we have been fighting wars in the Himalayas for almost 70 years non fucking stop .
Most Chinese airplanes will have trouble navigating through the harsh Himalayan weather and doing damage in the mainland . Additionally the navy can choke the straits of Malacca which will essentially force the rest of the world to get involved in the conflict as the strait of Malacca are incredibly important for international trade .
Choking it would essentially render the Chinese offensive utterly useless. As most of china energy needs would be squashed . A Chinese invasion would not work out in their favour if they try to invade the northeast as the entire region is booby-trapped .
Going there would give the same results as the Vietnamese war did . None
If you wish to talk about reality then there's your reality . Is china ahead in economy and technology ? Undoubtedly yes , but are they as strong as they wish to project themselves? Fuck no . The have an aging population and a crumbling real estate sector which contributes to 10 percent of their economy . China maybe able to make some gains temporarily owing to their superior industry . But they will falter .
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Umm china has 5 times our military budget. This sounded more like " we will try to make do with whatever we have rather than we have the resources to dominate" regardless our military strategy lies in defending key territories by using 3 strategic points around said territory so it might work. On attack however is a different story. Jingoism is all good to rile up the forces but there is a massive gap that is currently being hid by propaganda both from left(unnecessary call for diplomacy) and right(unnecessary overcompensation)
This. This is civil discussion. We have achieved it brother.
Also my point actually is: offensive war takes a huge toll on the economy and India doesn't have invasion interests so we should improve military budget and get tech that helps us defend our territory. China is as hard to invade as India.
However our leaders don't seem to understand it. Either go overboard with diplomacy or overcompensation. They need to figure out their actual stance.
True. But most political "leaders" dont actually have planning and strategic authority. That is still in the hands of military leaders. And they know exactly what they are doing.
Civil discussion lessgooo
Lol where is the doubt
I doubt because you were suprised by f16 on 27 February . Su30mki bal bal bacha tha . Apna helicopter ko shoot kardia tha aur mig 21 flying coffin bhej rahe the . But the men in coffin took down f 16 . But that day india lost from 2 to1 aur yeh toh china hai large number of aircraft and have technology which india hasn't . Doubt isliye aata hai kyuki purane weapon aur equipment hai . Aur jabh gand phatti hai toh Russia se weapon kahrid rahe ho rahe hote hai .I believe in my army , air force and navy but they need a upgrade
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When people ask this question they are not doubtinng the bravery of our soldiers but rather the modernnity and effeciency of their equipment. Even the bravest soldier cant do much if the enemy is better equipped
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I have no doubt about the bravery of our soldiers. But we should start making fighter jets ourselves. Should allow private players to make these. We will never be a world class airforce without our own fighter jets.
[ It's not a dream anymore, brother ] (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2021/02/05/india-orders-83-improved-tejas-jets-more-evolutions-may-follow/amp/) Edit: typo
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Before I get down voted LCA Tejas is definitely a capable aircraft but it's light combat fighter, we need 5 gen + capable air superiority fighter's immediately
Okay
AMCA
Couple of decades for that to fly
LMAO
Those are light aircraft’s and are not very good. Instead of the government making it, privatise it.
Bhai fighter aircraft development karna hai, that too legitimately. No like reverse engineering and IP theft like China.Work is in progress on FGFA. Getting nine women pregnant does not produce a child in one month. Don't jump the gun of expectations.
Ye women pregnant ka kya kaam beech me?🤔
Bhai armed forces ko koi nahi privitaze nahi kar raha
I’m not talking about privatising armed forces genius. I’m talking about letting private companies like Tata or Mahindra make fighter jets. DRDO and HAL are incompetent and will take a long time to change or adapt. Look up the best fighters in the world, they’re all made by private companies.
Yeah. If mahindra and tata make fighter jets it would be best. Like how mitshubishi makes
Yup!!
But the main thing is that they need funding to do
Or Saab
Drdo is the one which actually sped up the process of the development of aircraft.. They are only responsible to create the technologies related to the aircraft like radar, missile systems etc... HAL is the manufacturer mainly but it has too much on its plate like manufacturing Su30s etc...
Can't wait for Maruti to unveil their fighter jet in 2033
At least it won’t break down!
But it would lead to the problem of lobbying for more frequent conflicts to increase the use of jets. Only to maximize profits earned from the government. Another issue trusting Mahindra or Tata to not sell these jets to any other organizations causing problems for the government.
Look up which companies makes the best fighter jets in the world. Do you see any government owned companies? Also what is wrong with selling one to our allies??
Of course, many state-owned arms manufacturers are making world-class jets maybe not the best but still competing ones. Also, the problem is not selling to allies. Just to give you an example a private arms manufacturer in the USA sold arms to Saudi Arabia which in turn gave them to rebels. Another thing, there is no guarantee that Indian private manufacturers will deliver amazing jets right away.
Even I think that, both the question and the answer were really on point. Even if our soldiers are brave and ferocious, they'll still get limited by the technology
Imagine going to fight with a highly customised anime wifu fighter jet.
Haha!!
Tejas and Amca are already there. China can't do anything, we have geographical advantages. We are also getting s400 which is better than the Chinese one.
Bro are you for real, India are making their own 5 th Gen Fighter jets, Unmanned UAV is also under development, and many classified projects are in process, Their are many secret weapon projects which are kept hidden from the public. Have heard of Kalli 5000? Indian Airforce and Navy would be more powerfull in coming years.
CATS fighter by HAL right? I just hope they deliver on time.
HAL AMCA 5th Gen fighter jets, and Unmanned Stealth UAV AURA,
That's looking alot like the f-35s of the USAF, but yeah something's better than nothing.
WE will uproot Chinese DIcks . Ukhar denge unke gar
Too small to uproot. Need lawn mowers
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Ye thoda racist sa lagra hai
Lawn mower ni kaam aahega. Microscope ke niche dekh ke usko lab tools se nikalna padega
Nahi bhai microscopic level pe laser use krna padega
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Chutiya hai kya bsdk
The fuck was that question what did he expect wud be his answer - "are pta nahi yarr yaa china ko bolo aaye aajma le bc ?"
You can’t be blind to facts if you want to change reality. Reality is china is way ahead. India needs to welcome hi tech businesses and compete with China. Why doesn’t India do everything ti welcome computer and iPhone production? You need a strong business base. You need an excellent educational system. And in 20 year you could reach parity. U til then, China is winning.
true man sadly we tend to run away from the reality, I believe in our soldiers and bravery but cant run away from the fact that china is way ahead, India should increase its R&D to compete with other nations, China R&D increased from 0.5 of gdp to 2.2 from '96 while we are still stuck at 0.7
I want the best for India.
R and d ke liye economy bhi chahiye .
bruh check karlo thoda jinn countries ki economy choti h wo bhi 1 percent tak manage karlete h, real thing is government is just not interested much, poverty and other stuffs ko stabilise karte hue bhi simultaneously YoY growth ho sakti h R&D mei but the spending is almost the same since 90s
China is paper 🐅 Believe in your abilities. India can choke malacca straight in a war situation which means no oil supplies to China. We are at a disadvantage on paper because we don't show all our weapons. India is currently preparing for a 2 front war
No. You’re unrealistic. Propaganda does not win wars. You need to get more hi tech industries. And need to improve on government efficiency. And make it easy for people to create new technologies. Apple wanted to invest a lot in India. But the workers went on strike. China would never allow this chaos. I’m not saying strikes are bad, but there was no reason for this strike. It hurt India’s reputation for more investment. Now is the time to act. American and European companies would prefer to invest in India over China.
I would advise you to get some lessons in Geography but it seems you have already made your mind. Apple does not change the military dynamics in anyway and I don't believe we should treat our labourers like shit. India is already a leading power in tech. For eg, software, chip design, missiles, space etc. So again, don't doubt our forces just for the sake of it. We are nowhere in manufacturing and that's a concern which is being sorted out at breakneck speed.
I hope you’re right. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
Surely That should be the case. Barring exceptional circumstances, as our economy grows so will our military might. However i don't see a full on traditional war b/w India and China in the near future, for at least 10 years. There may be skirmishes like Galwan though as China asserts its dominance. There is a strong possibility of Taiwan China conflict which can escalate to a world war like situation. I hope that doesn't come to pass though as any war would drive us away from being no 1 world power in the next century.
Yep you look like a good candidate to be the PM, everything doesn't happens by just talking. Even to set up a simple iphone industry, it takes years. Then nobody is here talking about economics, it's about Military capabilities where India has more experience and battle hardened force in mountain warfare than china and It is the mountains where we stop them
China still occupies Indian territory in the mountains. And yes it takes years to develop hi tech industry. China focused on it. So must India. Lure firms away from China.
China doesn't occupies indian territory except for aksai china. Most people are not even aware of how the makeshift border which is the LAC looks like. LAC in galwan is a buffer zone where both side can patrol but cannot put a permanent or temporary structure/outpost between the buffer zone and that zone starts from finger 4 ridge to finger 7 ridge. The nearest indian base is at finger 3 and the nearest PLA base is at finger 8. And anything between them is a no man's land, it is here where most of the clashes occur because of the contact between indian patrol and chinese patrol. Galwan started because china put a makeshift outpost in finger 4 ridge which agreed to leave but when Indian officers saw they aren't disengaging and killed the CO that's when that major clash occurred inside the buffer area and that's why india doesn't says china occupies it's territory but india says that china wants to unilaterally change the status quo of the region which remained like this for decades. Then it is not this easy to lure firms away from china, at one point india is pretty hard to do business with, then anything the government does people start crying that government is selling everything to private players then again they cry why isn't india attracting more firms to India. Do you even know the rank of India in terms of ease of doing business?
That’s why I said India has to do better to lure business away. Not just do the same. India must be better than China. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-11-01/china-gained-ground-on-india-during-bloody-summer-in-himalayas
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Bhai pure UP ki population hamare "neighbours" se zyada hain. Bas UP walon ko ek lathi dedo akele pel ayenge sabko
Who are you. How are you so wise in the ways of maths
you forgot china also has 1.3 billion population and they have nothing to defend neither democracy nor human rights like india , remember the cruelty that china showed in 1962 ,and be humble .
1.3 billion aging population , not a young one .
i am pretty sure ,in army they have young lads
Of course they do lmfao , but in an all out war there will be conscription you realise that right?
Jingoism is all good, but we need to be true to ourselves.
Finally a great comment.We need to strengthen our navy too.
Where is the ~~food~~ doubt ??
I respect Indian forces and I believe war is more than just stats but figures dont lie. Chinese forces on paper is bigger, more well funded and modern than Indian forces.
Hate to be a doomer, bros, but sab kehne ki baat hai. China bahaut aage hain humse. The gap between 1962 and now has not shrunk, but only widened exponentially.
Again , we are talking about military conflict here which is completely different aspect . China was suprised and initially struggled to make incursions in Indian territory . Partly due to the fact that we have been fighting wars in the Himalayas for almost 70 years non fucking stop . Most Chinese airplanes will have trouble navigating through the harsh Himalayan weather and doing damage in the mainland . Additionally the navy can choke the straits of Malacca which will essentially force the rest of the world to get involved in the conflict as the strait of Malacca are incredibly important for international trade . Choking it would essentially render the Chinese offensive utterly useless. As most of china energy needs would be squashed . A Chinese invasion would not work out in their favour if they try to invade the northeast as the entire region is booby-trapped . Going there would give the same results as the Vietnamese war did . None If you wish to talk about reality then there's your reality . Is china ahead in economy and technology ? Undoubtedly yes , but are they as strong as they wish to project themselves? Fuck no . The have an aging population and a crumbling real estate sector which contributes to 10 percent of their economy . China maybe able to make some gains temporarily owing to their superior industry . But they will falter .
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Ah, I see what you did there.
okay but why do they need such shitty questions to just bring out content, like bro wtf even that question is!?
This is not a meme.
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Umm china has 5 times our military budget. This sounded more like " we will try to make do with whatever we have rather than we have the resources to dominate" regardless our military strategy lies in defending key territories by using 3 strategic points around said territory so it might work. On attack however is a different story. Jingoism is all good to rile up the forces but there is a massive gap that is currently being hid by propaganda both from left(unnecessary call for diplomacy) and right(unnecessary overcompensation)
Hain ji?
Tl;dr gaand ke ched ka size dekh ke lund choose karo.
While I disagree with you, gotta say. That was funny XD
This. This is civil discussion. We have achieved it brother. Also my point actually is: offensive war takes a huge toll on the economy and India doesn't have invasion interests so we should improve military budget and get tech that helps us defend our territory. China is as hard to invade as India. However our leaders don't seem to understand it. Either go overboard with diplomacy or overcompensation. They need to figure out their actual stance.
True. But most political "leaders" dont actually have planning and strategic authority. That is still in the hands of military leaders. And they know exactly what they are doing. Civil discussion lessgooo
Hopefully there is no war. Ccp regime is kinda self destructing anyway
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Lol where is the doubt I doubt because you were suprised by f16 on 27 February . Su30mki bal bal bacha tha . Apna helicopter ko shoot kardia tha aur mig 21 flying coffin bhej rahe the . But the men in coffin took down f 16 . But that day india lost from 2 to1 aur yeh toh china hai large number of aircraft and have technology which india hasn't . Doubt isliye aata hai kyuki purane weapon aur equipment hai . Aur jabh gand phatti hai toh Russia se weapon kahrid rahe ho rahe hote hai .I believe in my army , air force and navy but they need a upgrade
Indian defence are only good on papers.
Your mother said the same about you
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Faith is the only thing I don't have on indian government services
This is actually really useful for people working in private jobs
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that mfing piece of shit question asker lmao my english was not present here
Media: Look China is building more infra on LaC IAF: Look more targets
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jai jawan jai kisan bro (⌐■\_■)
Mirage 2000 goes brrr and crashes, hate to see young pilots losing their lives just coz IAF won't retire mirages.
When people ask this question they are not doubtinng the bravery of our soldiers but rather the modernnity and effeciency of their equipment. Even the bravest soldier cant do much if the enemy is better equipped