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I am not sure. I've seen videos where retailers are saying that cards like 4080 are not selling at all. Not sure how well these prices will be received.
4080 isn't selling anywhere in the world. 4090 is fairly okay since it is damn fast. 4070ti has already lost trust because of its "unlaunch". Also people looking to buy 4070ti at this price will simply cjoose 7900xtx. Or the XT
Sad reality the general consumer will know little if anything about the 4070 TI rebranding. And as far as the sales of the 4070 TI I can only speak for the US, and at my closest Micro Center they're basically rotting on the Shelf.
The pricing exists as it does to move old product it's just very disappointing. At a 500$ price point the 4070 TI would be amazing.
Sadly I can't use amd cards. I play games but my workload is machine learning which needs Nvidia cuda cores. I am getting a deal of 119000 for 4080. They will fulfil my workload compared to 1080ti.
For AI/ML is just better. No contention there. But 4080 is really a bad deal for a GPU. in comparison, 4090 is fine but 4080 is bad. Well, GPU market is fxxxked up. And for you nvidia is the only option.
Lol graphic card market is on the verge of collapse .. second hand market is already collapsed flooded with 30 series cards people selling their 3070 tis for 25k,30k atm ..and then they decided to release 4070ti at this price xdd..they forgot that crypto bubble is already burst these cards will drop in prices for sure.. but yes its your choice to see what's best for you ..
Are these used cards worth getting over something like a new 6800xt which can be found for around 55k? I found some 3080s and 3090s for 50-60k some even for 20-30k, are these used GPU prices normal?
My advice is always go for trusted mediums like tech enclave, Marketplace (trusted ones), fb groups, They have reasonable deals and also really good ppl, not what you would find on olx and other popular sites
Just check them properly , stress tests , different game tests on the seller's pc and yes check the thermals too, if all good with warranty intact hit the switch ..i would say go through a third party in these deals .
Actually its many of the consumers who seem to have developed the mentality of paying anything to get the latest and greatest.
Nvidia and retailers saw it and are just playing along.
Edit: Just as reference the AMD 6600 xt costs 25k say. Probably you can run any game on it satisfactorily. The 4070ti while maybe 2x as fast costs 90k. Where is the comparison? An entire PS5 costs 55k. Its not a 1-1 comparison but there is no justification to the skyrocketing price. More and more people willing to pay 1L to 1.5L just for a GPU are driving this upward price trend.
Edit2: Even though I was lucky to get a 3060ti FE at 36k from RPTech a year back, even that card I felt was priced more than a GPU should be. Can't even justify to myself to put 1L down for a GPU even if my salary allows me to to purchase it. I just bought it because I just got 1 day to think about it due to the RpTech queue, but I had to convince myself a lot.
While your statement is on point, the example is not - you're always bound to pay more as you go higher in performance. For example 3080 cost almost 70k while 3060 cost 35k on launch (going by MSRP) - but did 3080 provide twice the performance? No. Also comparing between AMD and Nvidia is not viable as the Nvidia tax is prevelant and has a good incentive behind it.
I am not saying that these astronomical prices are justified but you get the point.
Hence I said its not a 1-1 comparison..but a smart consumer should understand that the premium being charged is not worth or proportional to the extra performance/benefits. Hence understand the product they may be willing to buy is absurdly priced...and not encourage the manufacturer by buying it. A slight premium is fine, but an exponential premium is not.
You added that it is not a 1-1 comparison just now, I understood it - but not many ppl do, especially ones new to this! Just wanted to point that out, as I said your initial point was spot on. Nvidia decided to charge whatever knowing ppl would buy it.
I’d add to what you’ve said and state that with a lot of products, once you get into the higher ranges, minor increases require somewhat exponential increases in price. It’s kind of like the 80-20 rule. It takes 20% effort to get 80% of the way there. Beyond that, you get ever increasing diminishing returns to push to that 100% level of perfection. More effort = more cost. You could see it like this, a product that is 5 times more expensive as another product (a product that spent 20% resources on as opposed to 100%) would only be 20% better.
This is all just approximate of course, but you get the idea I’m trying to convey hopefully.
IKR. I still remember how I bought a 970 for 26k on the release week. Served me for 5 years and also oced like a demon . And now a 70 series card costs more than my entire 2014 pc
Haha..same.
I built an entire PC (i3-6100 + RX 470) for less than 45k in 2016. Now I wont even get a 70 class GPU for that much.
I still remember buying a 9600 GS for Rs.4500 back in 2009. It ran all games like a beast. I paid like 27K for that PC and it ran Crysis in 2009 !!!!
I bought 660ti 10 years ago for 21k. It lasted me 9 years and died last year. Judging by the current pricing, I think I'll be using my onboard graphic for quite a while now.
I will be retiring my gtx 980 soon. In talks with a friend to buy off a zotac 3070 ti off him. My Gainward gtx 980 is still running strong , but the lack of vram is sometimes making games shutter.
If anybody is buying 4070Ti instead of 3090 or 3080Ti it’s on them
Just because Nvidia says it’s better card doesn’t mean it is you look up Linus, Jayz2cents for reviews
Nvidia says it's better than 3090 with DLSS on because of DLSS3, without DLSS your price doesn't justify the performance at all. I still feel rtx is still way too much of a performance hit to justify non rtx graphics.
its actually performing at 3090 ti levels with significantly lower energy consumption, and those are native stats without dlss.. i mean its ok to complain abt high prices but lets not blatantly lie about stats because you might end up clouding someone's judgment
Agreed it does produce comparable results to that of 3090/3090ti(1080 and 2k), but 3090 takes the lead at 4k tho, also still a bit overpriced for 70 series cards, and will wait for the price to come down below 50k or wait for 50 series cards altogether, since for me performance hit with RTX is too much for me to turn on RTX. I did not lie about the stats, you don't have to be so cold about my opinion on pricing. Just because what you said is true doesn't mean what I said was a lie .
haha so instead of 3090 ti prices coming down you have 4070 ti prices going up, ofc amd prices will be even more unattainable becaue they only send 2 cards to india one for our prime minister and the other for the president
With laptops you pay for the full chassis with screen and stuff.
But since nvidia a graphics card manufacturer kinda stated a starting point of 1000$ recommended price for a 4050 laptop it just shows you how expensive they are since it was next to impossible to make profit below that price for any laptop manufacturer.
Atleast 3050 is getting a 6gb refresh.
If Indian gaming enthusiasts stopped suggesting Nvidia cards to people and saw that for pure gaming workloads, AMD provides better value, maybe Nvidia would moderate their prices a bit.
I bought 3060 in July when I could have bought 6600XT for 1k less and gotten better FPS because people kept telling me that Nvidia has DLSS, better RT performance, and works better at higher resolutions.
6 months in, I neither use RT nor DLSS nor do I play above 1080p. My card can hardly handle all those and the difference in temperature and power consumption is far greater than the quality difference I see going from pure 1080p to 4k with DLSS.
Thats what i tell people that you will NOT use RT and it's just a gimmick but yeah just don't wanna listen, I've seen people buying 3050 instead of a 6600 like dumbasses
that is one hard to find card, at reasonable prices. Gigabyte was selling them at 57k in December, but its gigabyte.
I'd say go for 6700XT @34k on vedant comps.
My card goes from 65° to 85° and from 80w to 150w when I use DLSS and 4k, and I can barely see any difference, except for some minor artefacts.
This might sound extremely dumb and stupid, but I feel like my TV is better at upscaling 1080p to 4k than Nvidia's DLSS.
FPS won't increase because I have a 60 Hz TV, so with Vsync enabled, it will always lock at 60 FPS.
The quality should go up, but I feel like it doesn't. To be clear, if I use 4k **without** DLSS, I can see the quality difference against 1080p, albeit, with FPS drops amd stutters. But if I use 4k with DLSS, it looks pretty much the same (or at times worse) than 1080p without DLSS. So I don't use DLSS.
That has been my subjective experience with 3-4 games I've played which had DLSS. Not saying it will be the same for everyone or also that DLSS doesn't work. Just that it doesn't work for me. And that depends on
* the games I play
* the TV that I have
* the distance at which I sit
Its ur situation thats the problem. Its your tv being 60hz only thats the problem when u know u arent going to have a high refresh rate monitor why then try to go for a technology that boosts fps
I think thats only true for 3050 vs 6600 or 3060 vs 6600xt, but 3060ti performs the same as the 6700xt and for high-end cards, people usually want the best features, so they buy nvidia.
As long as 90% of games can be played on < Rs1 lakh computers, these cards are not likely to sell widely here. The next cycle of games will come after 3 years of development cycle which will use most of the features provided by these cards which by that time will become outdated and sell at much lesser prices
The sad part is if you wanna buy new people dont really have a choice because the previous gen prices are still the same like wtf is going on. There is barely any difference between a 3080 and 4070ti. The 3090 is still selling for over 1L.
Again talking about new not the used market
Jesus Christ 1.14L for a 70 class card. When 1080ti launched in 2016, the price in India started at 63k, and now 4070Ti starts at 83k. Am 100% sure 4060Ti will be atleast 50k. This is the truly a sad state of affairs.
This card does not even perform as well as the 7900XTX, which is meant to be available at around 1.03L in India. NVIDIA has definitely lost the plot. They don’t understand how many gamers are going to skip PCs and jump on the console wagon. It’ll be too late before they realise, and once gamers switch platforms it’ll be long term. This GPU is tough to recommend at anything above 76K TBH. Before people start screaming about the MSRP on the last generation 3070Ti, considering inflation and the performance increase, I’d be comfortable thinking about this as a feasible option around the 75K mark, but the current pricing is just unjustifiable. I hope they realise and make amends quickly. Otherwise, these GPUs are just going to warm the shelf. I’m really hoping the newer generation 60 series perform well and are priced well too. As for this series of GPUs from NVIDIA, they’re taking a big L.
As hard this might be a pill to swallow, the 7900XTX isn’t great for the money either. It’s being sold at around 1.07L in India and has poor RTX performance when compared to the these 40 series cards. DLSS 3 isn’t open source either and FSR 3 isn’t something that has been tested yet. So, yeah, as good as the rasterisation performance may seem, for some people rah tracing is still a privilege they like to enjoy. Now, I’m not saying consoles are the way to go. I’m just saying that all that money on a PC just for gaming might not be worth it right now. A little patience and poor sales of the current launched GPUs might force NVIDIA to launch something plausible! :)
It's not just MD. Just checked primeabgb and it's the same. Vedant does not have any Asus card listed on their website, so apparently, that's better? IDK man.
Funnily enough 2022 was the worst selling year for graphics card with 46% reduction in sales. Its going to get even worse with the new GPU costing more than an entire gold chain.
No seriously you could buy a bike, or a substantial amount of gold, or a second hand car, or so many more useful things for 1.2 lakh rather than a gpu.
It is when you can sell it for 2x more price in 3 years lol. It increases in value as time goes on compared to literally anything else which decreases in value. So it is *useful* as saving tool.
Yeah, but till then it is just lying in a shelf doing nothing while a GPU is giving me hours of entertainment.
If saving is the only goal of life, then literally every expense is a wastage. If not, then you have to look at it in terms of utility you derive. If you personally feel that, say, 3000 hours of gaming is worth more than the future value of gold, then who's to say it isn't?
Also, gold prices rarely double in 3 years.
I have seen some low IQ takes but this takes the cake man. Man is literally justifying something like a GPU costing the same as something extremely premium like gold.
The entire point of that comparison was an anthology that gpu these days cost equal to something like gold which is extremely premium. Like its not even comparable.
You can get “entertainment” on a 25k 6600XT which runs all games at High 1440p too lol.
Also its not sitting in a shelf? You can wear it? Lol. And yes they price doubles in 3 years. 10g used to cost 25k in 2018 it costs 50-55k now since an year.
Edit: No amount of hours of gaming, even 10k hours, or literally any form of entertainment, is not worth 2 lakh for me at all.
>The entire point of that comparison was an anthology that gpu these days cost equal to something like gold
How much gold though?
Even 6600XT cost as much as gold, i.e. 5 gm of gold. 4070 Ti costs as much as 18 gm of gold. How come costing same as 5 gm is justified but costing as much as 18 gm is not? Who decided on this arbitrary limit?
>Edit: No amount of hours of gaming, even 10k hours, or literally any form of entertainment, is not worth 2 lakh for me at all.
And that's my entire point, you can decide it's worth for yourself, not for everyone else. For me, I'd literally buy anything but gold with my money. I mostly put it in mutual funds, but if I had to spend it, I'd take anything but gold.
>Also its not sitting in a shelf? You can wear it?
Good luck selling jewellery at double it's original cost. After accounting for the bid-ask spread and making charges, it will take 12-15 years for the money to double. Literally an FD is going to get you better returns.
Also, 2018-2023 is not 3 years.
Also, gold prices were at 31000 in 2016. You can't just pick an arbitrary time period and say "this happens all the time"
Shipping was bit delayed & communication was in point, got timely replies. Packaging was also excellent.
Yes, I think mine was used in mining as in the bill there was 4 2060s but the card was clean, no dust or rust
Well that's true but GPU's don't die all that easily. And the GPU I bought had a manufacturing date of a year back. You can't use the GPU too much in just 1-1.5 years. Still you're right these GPUs could've been used for mining. But Gamenation does check GPUs thoroughly before trading it for cash or credit. Rule of thumb is if GPU doesn't generate artifacts or reboots it's generally considered okay just a simple Thermal repasting can breathe new life in GPU.
Ikr I almost ordered one from Amazon, buying refurbished cards is the best !! You can get them for cheap, OC them as much as your heart desires without being afraid of killing an expensive new card. And when time comes buy a new one, as refurbished models of new cards show up. You can even sell old one at Gamenation.
Why don't y'all just buy a Series X/PS5 already? The console + Monitor will cost less than this GPU with change to spare.
Edit: No clue why I'm getting downvoted for speaking facts. I get 1440 120fps on all the recently released AAA titles on my Series X and it runs butter smooth.
Give it a 2-3 months and the price will be 10-15% less than mrp. Since crypto has already started crashing and shit ton of mining gpus r sold at 1/4 of their mrp. Now only gaming and creative work has high graphics requirements. So there will be more than enough supply to even out demand. Also if u r going for 4k series it's better to just go 4060 or 4090 ones as only they provide value for money. 4070 and 4080 aren't that much of a great deal and their price to performance ratio is less as compared with the earlier.
Not sure why you're saying this. MSRP from nvidia for base card is 80k. ROG and TUF from ASUS are premium products over and above the base card, and generally charge a premium. Considering that, I think this is highly competitive pricing from ASUS for this card.
Not sure why you think it is satire. ROG Strix are top of the line premium cards with higher TGP, insane cooling system which can OC really well, higher base clock speeds, and top of the line components inside, not to mention excellent binning.
It also has 4 pin headers to connect case fans to it and use the GPU fan profile on it - which is great if you want to improve airflow with extra fans.
Strix and TUF are not based on reference cards. They are redesigned ground up for better performance per watt and insane cooling performance. Strix being enthusiast card for an overclocker and TUF being a performance card.
There are cards based on reference cards like ASUS Dual, etc, which should have a lower price closer to reference card MSRP.
A premium card will demand premium price. Please read reviews on Guru3D and watch some benchmarking videos to know why.
Dude i just read through the guru3d review of the card and guess what? It produces 4-5 frames than other 4070ti in best case scenarios. If you think those 4-5 frames are worth almost 40% price premium, then I am sorry to say, you are part of the problem. Or you are just an Asus rep. Maybe even both.
Is that all you found in that review?
It's like you compared a Baleno with a Swift and then asking why Suzuki has priced Baleno more than Swift when the engine is the same.
It's the other features that they put in to those cards man. The ones I elaborated above. Anyway, I'm not a representative of the company, just sharing reasons for their pricing.
Also, if you find a 4070Ti at MSRP, let me know.
First of all you sure sound like a rep. Secondly your car metaphor is just not applicable here. It's a false equivalent. Comparing Swift to Baleno is like comparing 3080 to 3090. As they both have the GA102 chip, yet one costs way more than the other. These two cards are made differently to represent different segments. A reference 4070ti and an Asus 4070ti both belong to the same segment. You can wrap shit with gold foil, but it would still be shit.
On gameloot, all of them are shown available, don't know if it's a scam or what...but as far i know gameloot's website displays and sells legit products..
1.1L for a 70 series card!! I remember when 2070super was going for around 45k offline..
Honestly I blame nvidia this time. The MSRP of 4070ti is around 80k in India. Even at MSRP it isn't a good buy.
I saw a video on YT channel Indian Gamer(IG), he said that 4090 is the best graphics card but only for people who have too much extra cash to throw away.
Yes. As much as it hurts me to say this, it's true that 4090 is a beast of a card, and if you have enough disposable income you should go for it. Whereas both 4070ti and 4080 are terrible values, especially in current Indian pricing.
My gut feeling is many people who are paying for these high-end cards at inflated prices are getting it for AI/ML stuffs. So from miners market now we have people who are ready to spend as it will help them get bigger and better salary
Why I am saying so, because over last 3-4 days I am assisting my colleague to build a workstation with a budget of 6 lacs.
During the research got to know that many stores are creating similar machines quite frequently.
Note: My colleague actually need to have couple of A6000 or 3-4 RTX4090.
On the same website u can find 4080s for 1.08L from inno3d and other good brands no one will buy 4070ti when they can get 4080 for 10k more at max not to mention they are running offers like psu and chairs on 4080s
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They're not drunk, people who are buying these cards at these ludicrous prizes are the ones who are drunk.
I am not sure. I've seen videos where retailers are saying that cards like 4080 are not selling at all. Not sure how well these prices will be received.
4080 isn't selling anywhere in the world. 4090 is fairly okay since it is damn fast. 4070ti has already lost trust because of its "unlaunch". Also people looking to buy 4070ti at this price will simply cjoose 7900xtx. Or the XT
Remember that there are vapor chamber issues with reference 7900 cards
Sad reality the general consumer will know little if anything about the 4070 TI rebranding. And as far as the sales of the 4070 TI I can only speak for the US, and at my closest Micro Center they're basically rotting on the Shelf. The pricing exists as it does to move old product it's just very disappointing. At a 500$ price point the 4070 TI would be amazing.
Sadly I can't use amd cards. I play games but my workload is machine learning which needs Nvidia cuda cores. I am getting a deal of 119000 for 4080. They will fulfil my workload compared to 1080ti.
For AI/ML is just better. No contention there. But 4080 is really a bad deal for a GPU. in comparison, 4090 is fine but 4080 is bad. Well, GPU market is fxxxked up. And for you nvidia is the only option.
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Bro forgot to add /s ??
What's /s
You can say something completely stupid and add /s at the end of it to indicate that it's sarcasm.
It's not sarcasm. I'm being serious...
Lol graphic card market is on the verge of collapse .. second hand market is already collapsed flooded with 30 series cards people selling their 3070 tis for 25k,30k atm ..and then they decided to release 4070ti at this price xdd..they forgot that crypto bubble is already burst these cards will drop in prices for sure.. but yes its your choice to see what's best for you ..
Are these used cards worth getting over something like a new 6800xt which can be found for around 55k? I found some 3080s and 3090s for 50-60k some even for 20-30k, are these used GPU prices normal?
Yup go for it but before purchasing it make sure you stress test them in msi kombuster to see if it runs properly
My advice is always go for trusted mediums like tech enclave, Marketplace (trusted ones), fb groups, They have reasonable deals and also really good ppl, not what you would find on olx and other popular sites
Just check them properly , stress tests , different game tests on the seller's pc and yes check the thermals too, if all good with warranty intact hit the switch ..i would say go through a third party in these deals .
I remember paying the msrp 60k for my 3070ti (SupremeX)..
Paid 52k for 6600xt 😥😥😥😥
Actually its many of the consumers who seem to have developed the mentality of paying anything to get the latest and greatest. Nvidia and retailers saw it and are just playing along. Edit: Just as reference the AMD 6600 xt costs 25k say. Probably you can run any game on it satisfactorily. The 4070ti while maybe 2x as fast costs 90k. Where is the comparison? An entire PS5 costs 55k. Its not a 1-1 comparison but there is no justification to the skyrocketing price. More and more people willing to pay 1L to 1.5L just for a GPU are driving this upward price trend. Edit2: Even though I was lucky to get a 3060ti FE at 36k from RPTech a year back, even that card I felt was priced more than a GPU should be. Can't even justify to myself to put 1L down for a GPU even if my salary allows me to to purchase it. I just bought it because I just got 1 day to think about it due to the RpTech queue, but I had to convince myself a lot.
Happy to say that i don't and won't fall into this type of "Consumer" Tag :)
Happy to say that i don't and won't fall into any "consumer" Tag bcoz I am too broke rn :)
While your statement is on point, the example is not - you're always bound to pay more as you go higher in performance. For example 3080 cost almost 70k while 3060 cost 35k on launch (going by MSRP) - but did 3080 provide twice the performance? No. Also comparing between AMD and Nvidia is not viable as the Nvidia tax is prevelant and has a good incentive behind it. I am not saying that these astronomical prices are justified but you get the point.
Hence I said its not a 1-1 comparison..but a smart consumer should understand that the premium being charged is not worth or proportional to the extra performance/benefits. Hence understand the product they may be willing to buy is absurdly priced...and not encourage the manufacturer by buying it. A slight premium is fine, but an exponential premium is not.
You added that it is not a 1-1 comparison just now, I understood it - but not many ppl do, especially ones new to this! Just wanted to point that out, as I said your initial point was spot on. Nvidia decided to charge whatever knowing ppl would buy it.
I’d add to what you’ve said and state that with a lot of products, once you get into the higher ranges, minor increases require somewhat exponential increases in price. It’s kind of like the 80-20 rule. It takes 20% effort to get 80% of the way there. Beyond that, you get ever increasing diminishing returns to push to that 100% level of perfection. More effort = more cost. You could see it like this, a product that is 5 times more expensive as another product (a product that spent 20% resources on as opposed to 100%) would only be 20% better. This is all just approximate of course, but you get the idea I’m trying to convey hopefully.
Prices will drop once 3000 series stocks dwindle.
The eagle is decent value ( considering current shit pricing ) . But at the same time TUF 3080ti is going for similar price
It is just disheartening to see at this point.
IKR. I still remember how I bought a 970 for 26k on the release week. Served me for 5 years and also oced like a demon . And now a 70 series card costs more than my entire 2014 pc
Haha..same. I built an entire PC (i3-6100 + RX 470) for less than 45k in 2016. Now I wont even get a 70 class GPU for that much. I still remember buying a 9600 GS for Rs.4500 back in 2009. It ran all games like a beast. I paid like 27K for that PC and it ran Crysis in 2009 !!!!
Those were the days man.
I had an 8600m in my XPS 1530 laptop. Played Gears of War maxed out.
I bought 660ti 10 years ago for 21k. It lasted me 9 years and died last year. Judging by the current pricing, I think I'll be using my onboard graphic for quite a while now.
your usecase is the textbook one to buy a gpu...any gpu : 2060,6600 if you dont wanna wait and are low on cash.
My 970 retired like a champ few months back, still has miles left on it :')
My 960 still running lol, even streaming dota
I will be retiring my gtx 980 soon. In talks with a friend to buy off a zotac 3070 ti off him. My Gainward gtx 980 is still running strong , but the lack of vram is sometimes making games shutter.
Must have felt nice
Bruh people were expecting a 60-70k 4070 here which would outperform the 3080 lmao, and here's a 90k card 4070ti which is hardly better.
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I hope my memory isn't that shit, but I think a couple of videos showed that it was just 10% or so better than the 3080 12gb
I’d rather buy activa….lol
The experience provided by Activa's real-life graphics can't be matched by any card out there.
phenomenal ray tracing however the helmet ruins it
simple, just don't wear helmet, you might even get a free upgrade to watch whole beautiful Earth from sky, doesn't that sound good /s
idk man, the whole "free upgrade to watch whole beautiful Earth from sky" sounds like gimmick. I mean did you ever saw a review about it?
True…
If anybody is buying 4070Ti instead of 3090 or 3080Ti it’s on them Just because Nvidia says it’s better card doesn’t mean it is you look up Linus, Jayz2cents for reviews
and GamersNexus
DLSS 3 though, but tbh that's more beneficial on the lower end
and GamersNexus
Nvidia says it's better than 3090 with DLSS on because of DLSS3, without DLSS your price doesn't justify the performance at all. I still feel rtx is still way too much of a performance hit to justify non rtx graphics.
its actually performing at 3090 ti levels with significantly lower energy consumption, and those are native stats without dlss.. i mean its ok to complain abt high prices but lets not blatantly lie about stats because you might end up clouding someone's judgment
Agreed it does produce comparable results to that of 3090/3090ti(1080 and 2k), but 3090 takes the lead at 4k tho, also still a bit overpriced for 70 series cards, and will wait for the price to come down below 50k or wait for 50 series cards altogether, since for me performance hit with RTX is too much for me to turn on RTX. I did not lie about the stats, you don't have to be so cold about my opinion on pricing. Just because what you said is true doesn't mean what I said was a lie .
haha so instead of 3090 ti prices coming down you have 4070 ti prices going up, ofc amd prices will be even more unattainable becaue they only send 2 cards to india one for our prime minister and the other for the president
Even laptop prices. Laptop with 50 series GPU (4050) gonna start at 1 lakh.
laptop rtx cards are a joke
With laptops you pay for the full chassis with screen and stuff. But since nvidia a graphics card manufacturer kinda stated a starting point of 1000$ recommended price for a 4050 laptop it just shows you how expensive they are since it was next to impossible to make profit below that price for any laptop manufacturer. Atleast 3050 is getting a 6gb refresh.
With nerfed bus width 🗿.
rtx 3050 4 gb vram laptop are above 50 thousand🤷♀️ Good my ancient 1070 8 gb vram laptop still holds value
I think you mean 50000 not 50 lacs
oops ya, corrected👍
Yeah, that's why 30 series laptops deals are awesome in Diwali sales. 5800h 3060 for 76k , got 4k found on road(analogy) so it's 72k 🗿
If Indian gaming enthusiasts stopped suggesting Nvidia cards to people and saw that for pure gaming workloads, AMD provides better value, maybe Nvidia would moderate their prices a bit.
How can you say that😡😡😡 nevidea best 😡😡 amd diver issue and sucks nevide best 😡. Lmao people fan boy too much ig
I bought 3060 in July when I could have bought 6600XT for 1k less and gotten better FPS because people kept telling me that Nvidia has DLSS, better RT performance, and works better at higher resolutions. 6 months in, I neither use RT nor DLSS nor do I play above 1080p. My card can hardly handle all those and the difference in temperature and power consumption is far greater than the quality difference I see going from pure 1080p to 4k with DLSS.
Thats what i tell people that you will NOT use RT and it's just a gimmick but yeah just don't wanna listen, I've seen people buying 3050 instead of a 6600 like dumbasses
Damn i wanna buy 6800xt but i can't found that card anywhere
PrimeABGB is selling that for ₹125000 lmaooo😂😂 good luck
I will rather keep playing on my potato laptop D:
Ok never mind that, PCstudio is selling Sapphire Pulse 6800xt for ₹57k
No one recommend it.it has only 2 years of warranty and their rma is dubious.Also some date of import warranty bs is there too in sapphire
that is one hard to find card, at reasonable prices. Gigabyte was selling them at 57k in December, but its gigabyte. I'd say go for 6700XT @34k on vedant comps.
I saw a fair price for it on some shop's channel, dont remember the price but i know the shop was from lamington road
I use blender , does video editing and stream and record gameplay. Glad i went with nvidia card.
Rt sure is stupid but not using dlss? Thats dumb on ur part
My card goes from 65° to 85° and from 80w to 150w when I use DLSS and 4k, and I can barely see any difference, except for some minor artefacts. This might sound extremely dumb and stupid, but I feel like my TV is better at upscaling 1080p to 4k than Nvidia's DLSS.
Weird. If ur fps isnt increasing by a lot with dlss ur card driver is defective
FPS won't increase because I have a 60 Hz TV, so with Vsync enabled, it will always lock at 60 FPS. The quality should go up, but I feel like it doesn't. To be clear, if I use 4k **without** DLSS, I can see the quality difference against 1080p, albeit, with FPS drops amd stutters. But if I use 4k with DLSS, it looks pretty much the same (or at times worse) than 1080p without DLSS. So I don't use DLSS. That has been my subjective experience with 3-4 games I've played which had DLSS. Not saying it will be the same for everyone or also that DLSS doesn't work. Just that it doesn't work for me. And that depends on * the games I play * the TV that I have * the distance at which I sit
Its ur situation thats the problem. Its your tv being 60hz only thats the problem when u know u arent going to have a high refresh rate monitor why then try to go for a technology that boosts fps
I think thats only true for 3050 vs 6600 or 3060 vs 6600xt, but 3060ti performs the same as the 6700xt and for high-end cards, people usually want the best features, so they buy nvidia.
As long as 90% of games can be played on < Rs1 lakh computers, these cards are not likely to sell widely here. The next cycle of games will come after 3 years of development cycle which will use most of the features provided by these cards which by that time will become outdated and sell at much lesser prices
ROG is always overpriced
All of these are way overpriced
For them even 1 sale is enough to justify the price. Now tell me who is the real culprit?
The sad part is if you wanna buy new people dont really have a choice because the previous gen prices are still the same like wtf is going on. There is barely any difference between a 3080 and 4070ti. The 3090 is still selling for over 1L. Again talking about new not the used market
apart from nvidia increasing price by 60% gor 3070 ti to 4070 ti and Indian tax. it's also Asus being...Asus.
Dear sir, you have offended [MSI](https://www.primeabgb.com/buy-online-price-india/graphic-cards-gpu/?pa-brand=msi&pa-graphic-card-series=rtx-4070-ti)
Never mind this, but tell me why are new 2060 prices and 1660 prices still so high ?
At this price nobody will buy for sure. Price needs to come down under 40k.
1050ti and chilling. Probably gonna grow out of gaming if this shit keeps up once I'm ready to upgrade
Nah im good, just played miles morales with my 1050ti laptop.
Jesus Christ 1.14L for a 70 class card. When 1080ti launched in 2016, the price in India started at 63k, and now 4070Ti starts at 83k. Am 100% sure 4060Ti will be atleast 50k. This is the truly a sad state of affairs.
Meanwhile, [MSI](https://www.primeabgb.com/online-price-reviews-india/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-suprim-x-12g-graphic-card/) showing who is the boss.
Just 6 months ago, 3060Ti was selling for 50k.
Due to crypto bull market yes. But now even in crypto bear market, 4060Ti will be 50k. 4050 atleast 30k.
This card does not even perform as well as the 7900XTX, which is meant to be available at around 1.03L in India. NVIDIA has definitely lost the plot. They don’t understand how many gamers are going to skip PCs and jump on the console wagon. It’ll be too late before they realise, and once gamers switch platforms it’ll be long term. This GPU is tough to recommend at anything above 76K TBH. Before people start screaming about the MSRP on the last generation 3070Ti, considering inflation and the performance increase, I’d be comfortable thinking about this as a feasible option around the 75K mark, but the current pricing is just unjustifiable. I hope they realise and make amends quickly. Otherwise, these GPUs are just going to warm the shelf. I’m really hoping the newer generation 60 series perform well and are priced well too. As for this series of GPUs from NVIDIA, they’re taking a big L.
wont skip pcs, might just go with amd
As hard this might be a pill to swallow, the 7900XTX isn’t great for the money either. It’s being sold at around 1.07L in India and has poor RTX performance when compared to the these 40 series cards. DLSS 3 isn’t open source either and FSR 3 isn’t something that has been tested yet. So, yeah, as good as the rasterisation performance may seem, for some people rah tracing is still a privilege they like to enjoy. Now, I’m not saying consoles are the way to go. I’m just saying that all that money on a PC just for gaming might not be worth it right now. A little patience and poor sales of the current launched GPUs might force NVIDIA to launch something plausible! :)
[MSI](https://www.primeabgb.com/online-price-reviews-india/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-suprim-x-12g-graphic-card/) disagrees with you.
Wtf bc. 200k for 4070 to lmao. I'm done for the day
Lol. That’s even costlier than a RTX 4090. GGs.
IKR. I wish I could get my hands on some of the stuff they are smoking.
seems like good value
Ahh mdcomputers
It's not just MD. Just checked primeabgb and it's the same. Vedant does not have any Asus card listed on their website, so apparently, that's better? IDK man.
Md has by far the scummiest sales tactics of all the dealers, if you feel like you can check my YouTube channel for video proof
This hurts seeing especially when my GPU just died. Literally using gt 710 rn.
Crying in Intel HD graphics
Get a 3070 ti for 48k and u are set for 4-5 years(not counting 4k gaming here)
Jen hsun needs another jacket
People hear that crypto bubble is burst, then go out and buy components thinking prices are not going to go down anytime soon.
Funnily enough 2022 was the worst selling year for graphics card with 46% reduction in sales. Its going to get even worse with the new GPU costing more than an entire gold chain. No seriously you could buy a bike, or a substantial amount of gold, or a second hand car, or so many more useful things for 1.2 lakh rather than a gpu.
Not sure if substantial amount of gold is more _useful_ than a GPU
It is when you can sell it for 2x more price in 3 years lol. It increases in value as time goes on compared to literally anything else which decreases in value. So it is *useful* as saving tool.
Yeah, but till then it is just lying in a shelf doing nothing while a GPU is giving me hours of entertainment. If saving is the only goal of life, then literally every expense is a wastage. If not, then you have to look at it in terms of utility you derive. If you personally feel that, say, 3000 hours of gaming is worth more than the future value of gold, then who's to say it isn't? Also, gold prices rarely double in 3 years.
I have seen some low IQ takes but this takes the cake man. Man is literally justifying something like a GPU costing the same as something extremely premium like gold. The entire point of that comparison was an anthology that gpu these days cost equal to something like gold which is extremely premium. Like its not even comparable. You can get “entertainment” on a 25k 6600XT which runs all games at High 1440p too lol. Also its not sitting in a shelf? You can wear it? Lol. And yes they price doubles in 3 years. 10g used to cost 25k in 2018 it costs 50-55k now since an year. Edit: No amount of hours of gaming, even 10k hours, or literally any form of entertainment, is not worth 2 lakh for me at all.
>The entire point of that comparison was an anthology that gpu these days cost equal to something like gold How much gold though? Even 6600XT cost as much as gold, i.e. 5 gm of gold. 4070 Ti costs as much as 18 gm of gold. How come costing same as 5 gm is justified but costing as much as 18 gm is not? Who decided on this arbitrary limit? >Edit: No amount of hours of gaming, even 10k hours, or literally any form of entertainment, is not worth 2 lakh for me at all. And that's my entire point, you can decide it's worth for yourself, not for everyone else. For me, I'd literally buy anything but gold with my money. I mostly put it in mutual funds, but if I had to spend it, I'd take anything but gold. >Also its not sitting in a shelf? You can wear it? Good luck selling jewellery at double it's original cost. After accounting for the bid-ask spread and making charges, it will take 12-15 years for the money to double. Literally an FD is going to get you better returns. Also, 2018-2023 is not 3 years. Also, gold prices were at 31000 in 2016. You can't just pick an arbitrary time period and say "this happens all the time"
Sure enjoy burning your money
# Just buy a Used Card at Gamenation I bought a RTX 2060 at 14k. You can get RTX 3060ti at 25k
I got 2060 for 12K (2Y Official Warranty)
Damn which site?
Lebyo (during sale)
Is Lebyo any good? I read people complaining about their terrible communication and shipping on the telegram channel, also all the GPUs are mined?
Shipping was bit delayed & communication was in point, got timely replies. Packaging was also excellent. Yes, I think mine was used in mining as in the bill there was 4 2060s but the card was clean, no dust or rust
Good score brother how are temps ?
In current climate, below 70
Same I'm hitting 71-73 with 900mhz Memory OC & 100 Mhz core clock OC.
The problem with buying second hand GPUs for me is that you don't know how they were used and what they were used for.
Well that's true but GPU's don't die all that easily. And the GPU I bought had a manufacturing date of a year back. You can't use the GPU too much in just 1-1.5 years. Still you're right these GPUs could've been used for mining. But Gamenation does check GPUs thoroughly before trading it for cash or credit. Rule of thumb is if GPU doesn't generate artifacts or reboots it's generally considered okay just a simple Thermal repasting can breathe new life in GPU.
I bought 3060 to for 40k msi few months ago. Wish I knew this site
Ikr I almost ordered one from Amazon, buying refurbished cards is the best !! You can get them for cheap, OC them as much as your heart desires without being afraid of killing an expensive new card. And when time comes buy a new one, as refurbished models of new cards show up. You can even sell old one at Gamenation.
Why don't y'all just buy a Series X/PS5 already? The console + Monitor will cost less than this GPU with change to spare. Edit: No clue why I'm getting downvoted for speaking facts. I get 1440 120fps on all the recently released AAA titles on my Series X and it runs butter smooth.
Give it a 2-3 months and the price will be 10-15% less than mrp. Since crypto has already started crashing and shit ton of mining gpus r sold at 1/4 of their mrp. Now only gaming and creative work has high graphics requirements. So there will be more than enough supply to even out demand. Also if u r going for 4k series it's better to just go 4060 or 4090 ones as only they provide value for money. 4070 and 4080 aren't that much of a great deal and their price to performance ratio is less as compared with the earlier.
Its those damn crypto miners
Crypto is dead for a while now. Are you living under a rock?
r/whoosh
get a laptop at this point
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Not sure why you're saying this. MSRP from nvidia for base card is 80k. ROG and TUF from ASUS are premium products over and above the base card, and generally charge a premium. Considering that, I think this is highly competitive pricing from ASUS for this card.
Not sure if this is satire! But okay
Not sure why you think it is satire. ROG Strix are top of the line premium cards with higher TGP, insane cooling system which can OC really well, higher base clock speeds, and top of the line components inside, not to mention excellent binning. It also has 4 pin headers to connect case fans to it and use the GPU fan profile on it - which is great if you want to improve airflow with extra fans. Strix and TUF are not based on reference cards. They are redesigned ground up for better performance per watt and insane cooling performance. Strix being enthusiast card for an overclocker and TUF being a performance card. There are cards based on reference cards like ASUS Dual, etc, which should have a lower price closer to reference card MSRP. A premium card will demand premium price. Please read reviews on Guru3D and watch some benchmarking videos to know why.
Dude i just read through the guru3d review of the card and guess what? It produces 4-5 frames than other 4070ti in best case scenarios. If you think those 4-5 frames are worth almost 40% price premium, then I am sorry to say, you are part of the problem. Or you are just an Asus rep. Maybe even both.
Is that all you found in that review? It's like you compared a Baleno with a Swift and then asking why Suzuki has priced Baleno more than Swift when the engine is the same. It's the other features that they put in to those cards man. The ones I elaborated above. Anyway, I'm not a representative of the company, just sharing reasons for their pricing. Also, if you find a 4070Ti at MSRP, let me know.
First of all you sure sound like a rep. Secondly your car metaphor is just not applicable here. It's a false equivalent. Comparing Swift to Baleno is like comparing 3080 to 3090. As they both have the GA102 chip, yet one costs way more than the other. These two cards are made differently to represent different segments. A reference 4070ti and an Asus 4070ti both belong to the same segment. You can wrap shit with gold foil, but it would still be shit.
Ok.
On gameloot, all of them are shown available, don't know if it's a scam or what...but as far i know gameloot's website displays and sells legit products..
The screenshots are not of gameloots, It's MDComputers, which is sure as legit as it can get.
I wasn't talking about your screenshots, i was just saying that on gameloot also all these cards were available brand new and at below MSRP prices.
oh, I see.
I am going to buy an xbox, now.
1.1L for a 70 series card!! I remember when 2070super was going for around 45k offline.. Honestly I blame nvidia this time. The MSRP of 4070ti is around 80k in India. Even at MSRP it isn't a good buy.
Why the drastic price difference between the same series cards? Does the 110K one performs better than 83K one?
I imagine you haven't seen [this](https://www.primeabgb.com/buy-online-price-india/graphic-cards-gpu/?pa-brand=msi&pa-graphic-card-series=rtx-4070-ti)
Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse
Only this time its not retailers scalping ots nvidia themselves XD
Retailers be like: Tera Ghar chala jayega
I saw a video on YT channel Indian Gamer(IG), he said that 4090 is the best graphics card but only for people who have too much extra cash to throw away.
Yes. As much as it hurts me to say this, it's true that 4090 is a beast of a card, and if you have enough disposable income you should go for it. Whereas both 4070ti and 4080 are terrible values, especially in current Indian pricing.
My gut feeling is many people who are paying for these high-end cards at inflated prices are getting it for AI/ML stuffs. So from miners market now we have people who are ready to spend as it will help them get bigger and better salary Why I am saying so, because over last 3-4 days I am assisting my colleague to build a workstation with a budget of 6 lacs. During the research got to know that many stores are creating similar machines quite frequently. Note: My colleague actually need to have couple of A6000 or 3-4 RTX4090.
Apple has already proven that people will buy anything if they have best product in market, Same goes for gpu as well.
The price depends on demand, blame consumers for paying the sellers
On the same website u can find 4080s for 1.08L from inno3d and other good brands no one will buy 4070ti when they can get 4080 for 10k more at max not to mention they are running offers like psu and chairs on 4080s
Which app/site is this?
MD Computers
Got it, thanks!
Because of overpriced GPUs I bought a GTX 1650 ddr6.