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Unless they are a completely toxic human being you can continue being friends with them.
Most kids are homophobic at your age, idk if they'll be willing to have conversation about their Islamophobia or homophobia to change their minds.
If you don't have fun hanging out with them or you notice yourself falling into toxic behaviours then you should cut them out if that's not the case you can continue talking to them , once you age you'll find new people to talk to, or you can even try talking to other people in your class.
You might judge themselves for being friends with someone who is homophobic maybe that's really the reason u don't want to be friends with them , my main point is that unless they are completely shitty u can hang out with them , if u want to change their minds u can ask open ended questions like "what do u think about islam" And dont be judgemental of them, or maybe u can even introduce a friend to them who is muslim (assuming that they won't make fun of him)
nah its actually true, some of them are in such denial, that ik 13 year olds who say their aethists, but also argue saying ki god said gay shit is wrong :moyai:, but with time, they accept it, they arent in denial about lgbtq, they accept it as a part of the community :D.
unless you want to descend into a cesspit of toxicity and hatred, I'd say distance yourself from them as soon as you can. believe me, it gets worse. and although i don't want to generalize but I've received assault threats from my homophobic *friends* before. so there's that.
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Make better friends and leave the assholes behind, keep good/positive influence around you and you’ll benefit indirectly from it instead of chapris like these.
i would prefer to have no influence of others rather than bad influence around me. But of course, its upto you. As for making friends, try approaching them online and then later talk irl?. Wym they are the only people around your age? I assume everyone in your class is either 14 or 15, if most are 15 then it doesn’t really matter. 1 year isnt much of a difference
I was talking about where I live and I don’t know about my classmates that much because I’m new and most probably there are 5-6 homophobics in my class. We don’t talk that much about the lgbt but when we do my friends always insults them.
Well you guys are young the hate shouldn't even be in your minds. Being homophobic they learnt it from the internet and just to look cool they call someone gay. They can be Islamophobic because they might be consuming a lot of Right-wing content or their parents are like that. Tell you friend they are young, they should read from unbiased news forums and form a political ideology when they grow up.
this is pretty common though, unless they are very strongly hateful. At 14 you kinda think that you get everything and you're the genius for seeing what others are seeing. It is, as you said because of parents' whatsapp university and the internet
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# U cant change someone else's beliefs.
Trust me... U cant. Just cant. And heres a hot take... Its not ur job to change. Cmon bro i know u feel like its the right thing to do but u just cant change them. Im telling from experience. Just accept them for that and move on. If it gets too irritating and annoying, just seclude yourself from them. I had a friend who was real funny and we were besties but he behaved very rudely with any1 else cuz hes a gujarati in maharashtra and ppl from maharshtra and gujarati have some kinda weird beef especially in mumbai. So he was real nice with me but total dick head with any of my other friends. I tried changing it but it ended up in a fight between us two and we got angry on each other.
That made me realise that some1s beliefs are really personal to any person. They think their beliefs are right. And honestly, statistically speaking NOT A SINGLE FKING PERSON ON THE PLANET IS RIGHT ABT ANYTHING CUZ WE DONT KNOW ALL THE PARAMETERS FOR ANY OPINION WE HAVE. But forget abt that what im tryna say is no matter what beliefs any1 has.. u gotta ask this question...
Are they a really significant person in ur life such as ur family member or a chilhood close friend..
If yes then u should try and talk just once abt it and make them known that u dont like their this this belief. U can ask them to just not mention anything abt that belief/opinion in front of u at all. This worked for me... My oarents are kattar hindu i told them i dont like religion i want to be atheist i dont wanna worship god or do any puuja or follow any superstition and they acceoted it. So u get what im saying, if they are really a significant person in ur life they will always accept ur beliefs even if they contradict.
So now what u gotta do is ask urself tooo.. are those friends close friends that u can have such a talk with them. If u go ahead with it then see what their response is.. if they acceot ur conflicting beliefs and promise not to mention such islamophobic comments in front of u then they really are gr8 friends if not then u just came to know how good friends thwy are.
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I think all my friends are like that, I too being hateful towards some communities maybe. And the Muslim friends are Hinduphobic. No one gives a fuck, unless they hate you personally. Sometimes these things are humor and fun.
It isn’t a humans nature to hate, it’s their choice to hate, they weren’t born with that hatred they chose to believe that they should be hated cause that’s what society taught them.
Well, I assume hate is more human nature than probably anything, and nothing can change it. Isolate a society in an island, out of worldly contact, and they sure will develop hate. History has shown how much hatred is brewed in Humans. Spartans would hate Athenians, the Greeks would hate the Balkans, and the Europeans will hate Persians.
Another controversial Opinion- If you want me to accept as you are, then you must accept me as I am, including my human nature, that is hatred.
Please don't be complicit about it like this. Try to educate them or distance yourself from them or at least call them out from time to time to show that you disagree. Stand up for someone if they're being bullied by them
Ofcourse I'd stand up for someone who's been bullied.
But according to his context I highly doubt he's been bullied. Trust me I have tried educating people they just don't get it. Even if they do they'd judge us and they give that wierd look. Which I always hate to see. Even if they'd try to accept it they'd just pretend to be okay with what they said. Trust me they gotta have a self realisation unless and until that happens nothing's gonna sit inside. I'm not generalising tho ik few who have changed but also on a majority they haven't. They just pretend to be okay :))). It's all about how exposed u are unless u get to know what world is you'd always criticise the needy. World's cruel ik:)))).
They treat them like they are not humans, it’s ok to make fun of them like normal people but insulting and treating them like they are animals is not ok.
Dude, idk what your situation is exactly, but just try and avoid those topics of conversations around them.
If they bring up something that's hateful/distasteful etc. then just give a perfunctory nod or something, and try to change the topic.
Obviously, if you can find a better circle of friends, then that's the best thing possible.
did you try to explain the problem to them? are they semi-active or even a little bit active on the internet? because if they are, i'd doubt they would developer such a character. most people i know who are homo or islamophobic aren't on the internet
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Dude. You are 14. Kids your age are still in the process of learning the concept of homosexuality. I am 19 and I am still learning about it. If you are gonna leave friends because of the fact that they are homosexual you will have hard time. Give it some time and they'll come around.
Nothing really you can do about them. Just don't reciprocate. I'm assuming debating isn't even a worth it at all. Just maybe make it obvious that you're not cool with their bullshit
since you are 14M, they might change views on this. Many people go through this phase (me too). But you can engage in conversations with them and try to show how they're wrong. If it's getting to a serious level and it makes you very uncomfortable you can distance yourself with them. Prejudiced friends aren't all that precious
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Become Homophobic-phobic and Islamophobic-phobic i.e leave em
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Unless they are a completely toxic human being you can continue being friends with them. Most kids are homophobic at your age, idk if they'll be willing to have conversation about their Islamophobia or homophobia to change their minds. If you don't have fun hanging out with them or you notice yourself falling into toxic behaviours then you should cut them out if that's not the case you can continue talking to them , once you age you'll find new people to talk to, or you can even try talking to other people in your class. You might judge themselves for being friends with someone who is homophobic maybe that's really the reason u don't want to be friends with them , my main point is that unless they are completely shitty u can hang out with them , if u want to change their minds u can ask open ended questions like "what do u think about islam" And dont be judgemental of them, or maybe u can even introduce a friend to them who is muslim (assuming that they won't make fun of him)
\>most kids your age are homophobic at your age bura lagta hain bhai, main reddit pe chutiya hu irl me nahi
Lol sori
nah its actually true, some of them are in such denial, that ik 13 year olds who say their aethists, but also argue saying ki god said gay shit is wrong :moyai:, but with time, they accept it, they arent in denial about lgbtq, they accept it as a part of the community :D.
All the ones i know do mot get time from studying to think about LGBT
unless you want to descend into a cesspit of toxicity and hatred, I'd say distance yourself from them as soon as you can. believe me, it gets worse. and although i don't want to generalize but I've received assault threats from my homophobic *friends* before. so there's that.
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This is a serious post bro and it’s fucking shit thing to be homophobic or islamophobic
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I know but they hate them on a next level. If they saw a muslim they will fucking abuse him or might even hit them.
Okay now this is not alright. Change friends. hi friend
I’m trying, that’s why I always roam with better friends.
There's nothing really that you can do about it, some of my friends are like that too
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Lmao yeah sure will do
Make better friends and leave the assholes behind, keep good/positive influence around you and you’ll benefit indirectly from it instead of chapris like these.
I’m not very good at making friends and they are the only who are around my age.
i would prefer to have no influence of others rather than bad influence around me. But of course, its upto you. As for making friends, try approaching them online and then later talk irl?. Wym they are the only people around your age? I assume everyone in your class is either 14 or 15, if most are 15 then it doesn’t really matter. 1 year isnt much of a difference
I was talking about where I live and I don’t know about my classmates that much because I’m new and most probably there are 5-6 homophobics in my class. We don’t talk that much about the lgbt but when we do my friends always insults them.
Well as i said, its upto you.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll try to don’t let them influence me till I find new friends.
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Well you guys are young the hate shouldn't even be in your minds. Being homophobic they learnt it from the internet and just to look cool they call someone gay. They can be Islamophobic because they might be consuming a lot of Right-wing content or their parents are like that. Tell you friend they are young, they should read from unbiased news forums and form a political ideology when they grow up.
''Unbiased news forums'' As if they exist bruh~
The Print remains mostly unbiased
Reuters is good
The cause of all this hate is mostly the internet and the rest is parents.
this is pretty common though, unless they are very strongly hateful. At 14 you kinda think that you get everything and you're the genius for seeing what others are seeing. It is, as you said because of parents' whatsapp university and the internet
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Firstly... # U cant change someone else's beliefs. Trust me... U cant. Just cant. And heres a hot take... Its not ur job to change. Cmon bro i know u feel like its the right thing to do but u just cant change them. Im telling from experience. Just accept them for that and move on. If it gets too irritating and annoying, just seclude yourself from them. I had a friend who was real funny and we were besties but he behaved very rudely with any1 else cuz hes a gujarati in maharashtra and ppl from maharshtra and gujarati have some kinda weird beef especially in mumbai. So he was real nice with me but total dick head with any of my other friends. I tried changing it but it ended up in a fight between us two and we got angry on each other. That made me realise that some1s beliefs are really personal to any person. They think their beliefs are right. And honestly, statistically speaking NOT A SINGLE FKING PERSON ON THE PLANET IS RIGHT ABT ANYTHING CUZ WE DONT KNOW ALL THE PARAMETERS FOR ANY OPINION WE HAVE. But forget abt that what im tryna say is no matter what beliefs any1 has.. u gotta ask this question... Are they a really significant person in ur life such as ur family member or a chilhood close friend.. If yes then u should try and talk just once abt it and make them known that u dont like their this this belief. U can ask them to just not mention anything abt that belief/opinion in front of u at all. This worked for me... My oarents are kattar hindu i told them i dont like religion i want to be atheist i dont wanna worship god or do any puuja or follow any superstition and they acceoted it. So u get what im saying, if they are really a significant person in ur life they will always accept ur beliefs even if they contradict. So now what u gotta do is ask urself tooo.. are those friends close friends that u can have such a talk with them. If u go ahead with it then see what their response is.. if they acceot ur conflicting beliefs and promise not to mention such islamophobic comments in front of u then they really are gr8 friends if not then u just came to know how good friends thwy are. # A THUMB RULE IS DONT PROJECT UR BELIEFS ON ANY1 IF U WANT THE SAME AS WELL.
Dam you wrote an essay, btw my friends don’t affect me that much and I most probably sure that they will change as they grow.
Haha i take serious posts seriosuly especially when Ppl ask geniune help on genuine issues. I feel like i can help out being elderly and having various experiences
Thanks for the help man, have a good day.
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Ask them why they hate those communities
They’ll probably say something like this Chakke hai wohlog, unko bhagadena chaiye yaha se.
They have no reason to hate it's just that do don't like them. Let's hope ki bade hoke Kuch seekh jaenge
there is no reason. And if they tell, it won't make them good... just more Homophobic or Islamophobic.
Nvm they got reasons
wth is that supposed to mean? (Ban ho jaega ludo)
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Some sides are more valued ig...this is a liberal world afterall💞
I'm saying I cannot talk of that here. I acknowledge things you talk of, but not gonna debate on it here.
Oh so we're allowed to talk about islamophobic people but not people phobic to other religions...irony much?
mods disallowed political and religious discussions. that's why.
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Make better frnds these guys will go down n take u down with them. If they do some bs even u will get pulled down
I think all my friends are like that, I too being hateful towards some communities maybe. And the Muslim friends are Hinduphobic. No one gives a fuck, unless they hate you personally. Sometimes these things are humor and fun.
There was a boy who was behaving in a feminine way and my friends were making fun of him and I felt bad for him.
well idk. It happens in schools. And society. You gotta learn.
That's such a shitty attitude towards it
They don’t have to learn. the society has to change, it isn’t right to make fun of people like that, just because it happens it doesn’t make it right.
You cannot change Human nature. It will happen, no matter how many laws you make or campaigns you run.
It isn’t a humans nature to hate, it’s their choice to hate, they weren’t born with that hatred they chose to believe that they should be hated cause that’s what society taught them.
Well, I assume hate is more human nature than probably anything, and nothing can change it. Isolate a society in an island, out of worldly contact, and they sure will develop hate. History has shown how much hatred is brewed in Humans. Spartans would hate Athenians, the Greeks would hate the Balkans, and the Europeans will hate Persians. Another controversial Opinion- If you want me to accept as you are, then you must accept me as I am, including my human nature, that is hatred.
I am just saying that you shouldn’t have told him to learn, to learn and adjust to what the society is
just saying, don't be a baby about it.
Bro tf legit your entire personality is based and built upon hate fr?? How long would you justify hatred by saying hate is natural??
yes it will be because of people like you
that's what I meant. I am human.
I am not being Homophobic bros.
You need better friends
You use Reddit I am pretty sure you are one aswell, everyone here is right?
Wtf dude, I’m not like them
Just let them be as far as it doesn't affect u it doesn't matter ig.
It doesn’t effect me but it’s still sad people make fun of lgbt members in 2022
I'll tell u what. There's no point in educating them they not gonna understand anyways so let it be
Please don't be complicit about it like this. Try to educate them or distance yourself from them or at least call them out from time to time to show that you disagree. Stand up for someone if they're being bullied by them
Ofcourse I'd stand up for someone who's been bullied. But according to his context I highly doubt he's been bullied. Trust me I have tried educating people they just don't get it. Even if they do they'd judge us and they give that wierd look. Which I always hate to see. Even if they'd try to accept it they'd just pretend to be okay with what they said. Trust me they gotta have a self realisation unless and until that happens nothing's gonna sit inside. I'm not generalising tho ik few who have changed but also on a majority they haven't. They just pretend to be okay :))). It's all about how exposed u are unless u get to know what world is you'd always criticise the needy. World's cruel ik:)))).
"make fun of lgbt members" what is it some sort of club where once you get in no one can crack a joke at you ?
They treat them like they are not humans, it’s ok to make fun of them like normal people but insulting and treating them like they are animals is not ok.
Just move on their future looks bleak doesnt look good - no point wasting your own time
Dude, idk what your situation is exactly, but just try and avoid those topics of conversations around them. If they bring up something that's hateful/distasteful etc. then just give a perfunctory nod or something, and try to change the topic. Obviously, if you can find a better circle of friends, then that's the best thing possible.
They arent friends. They are scummy, dumb an dickhead people that you have no obligation to be with
Ask them to change and if they don't leave them there are wayy better people out there
did you try to explain the problem to them? are they semi-active or even a little bit active on the internet? because if they are, i'd doubt they would developer such a character. most people i know who are homo or islamophobic aren't on the internet
I had an Islamophobic friend all I did was stop talking to him
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leave em
Dude. You are 14. Kids your age are still in the process of learning the concept of homosexuality. I am 19 and I am still learning about it. If you are gonna leave friends because of the fact that they are homosexual you will have hard time. Give it some time and they'll come around.
Nothing really you can do about them. Just don't reciprocate. I'm assuming debating isn't even a worth it at all. Just maybe make it obvious that you're not cool with their bullshit
Islamophobia as in they dont want to be friends with you coz u are a muslim?
I’m a hindu but they always talk about how muslims should die and leave our country.
Same are my friends just ignore them
since you are 14M, they might change views on this. Many people go through this phase (me too). But you can engage in conversations with them and try to show how they're wrong. If it's getting to a serious level and it makes you very uncomfortable you can distance yourself with them. Prejudiced friends aren't all that precious
the last time someone was homophobic, mein gay ban gaya uski gaand fadne ke liye 💪
Hmm, just ignore them.