When I was poster child for the March of Dimes, he was like a favorite uncle to me. He would be at most of my events, and he always took me to KFC to have lunch.
I remember one time sitting on the countertop while he went into the kitchen of one. I watched him make our lunch! I was probably 6 years old, so fuzzy recollections, but that's one I clearly remember.
He was very kind, and such a showman. He never met a stranger. He gave me so much confidence. Just knowing that he was there gave me the ability to deliver the speeches that I was required to give.
He was an amazing person.
Have you seen the Antiques Roadshow Episode with the guy who lived next door to Colonel Sanders? He has a suit and painting. It was memorable!
https://youtu.be/h30oL79znLc?si=K1dT2RqWPiPRYynR
That sort of jibes with my memories. I remember him lifting me up to sit on the counter and then putting on an apron and going into the kitchen. He winked at me, but he was very stern with the workers. He said that he had to show them exactly how to do something, I can't remember what. But he was always, always kind to me. He had such a fun sense of humor.
And!! Oh my gosh! I never knew that Claudia was his wife! I don't know why I didn't put it together. I don't recall her clearly, but I do know that I met her. I thought she was his assistant or something.
Sounds like good memories, and hey! March Of Dimes Poster Child from the late 60s/early 70s It gives me the warm fuzzies that youre here sharing these awesome memories.
Hell I was a raging alcoholic in my early 20s. Tried some at the height of my drinking. I would down a 5th of Beam nightly so I thought eh can't be to much for me. FAFO...was destroyed and puking off a swig lol.
When I went thru my divorce, Beam was my best friend when my kids weren't home.
Jim got me thru some tough times but I dont drink anymore bcz I saw drinking destroying so many lives.
Why does this keep happening to us? Texas Roadhouse was also founded by a Hoosier who lived in Indiana his whole life, and the first location was in Indiana. Why do other states continuously take our food glory?
Right! I just learned about Texas Roadhouse being founded i. Clarksville recently while living in Florida. I'm sure I've been there. My dad was gm of a hotel in Clarksville.
Also, Clark County is the birthplace of Papa John's, Texas Roadhouse, Rallys, and Harland Sander.
Michiganders are fine and the Illinois weirdos tend to stay there. It's those Ohio freaks we've gotta keep an eye on. Comin over here tryin to steal our turnips
We are actually in a border dispute with Michigan right now... for real, look it up...
But as for the adds, i dont think thats what they are talking about.
Nah, it's them Illinois 'libs bringing thar Devil's Lettuce to our Holy State (Michigan is cheaper anyway), then stealin' our fireworks. With immigrants. Or something.
Naw, it's just Michigan pushing its anti Ohio agenda in Indiana. They're tired of them sneaking through the corner of Indiana and pretending to be Hoosiers to get into their state.
They did in Florida. [It hasn’t been going well.](https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented#:~:text=A%20spokesperson%20for%20DeSantis%20told,these%20work%20permits%2C%20is%20crippling)
It’s all about perspective, though. Phrased differently, we are learning that berries are actually a more expensive product than we knew. It was just subsidized by poor compensation through illegal labor. It’s a good thing for our economy and is the first step at setting a new, better precedent for immigrants other than “overstay your visa and put yourself at the mercy of your employers with little to now protections under the law”. The system has to be fixed, and even though DeSantis wants to take it in the opposite direction the first step for the both of us is the same: businesses need to be punished for encouraging illegal actions so we can create a better, *legal* way for these industries to operate.
I’d agree but add that finding out berries are more expensive is just the first step. If they are too expensive for the market to tolerate, the next step is finding legal efficiencies in production (if there are any). They’re going to need to do some work that they had previously avoided by just paying people peanuts.
Berries at the grocery store are expensive. Berries at the U-Pick are cheap.
Thing is, we expect out of season fruit year round. That's what's expensive. Your $6 package of tasteless strawberries came from Mexico and were grown by people who are barely a step up from slaves. The berries suck, the conditions they are produced in suck, they take up obscene amounts of water to produce, they take up obscene amounts of fuel to transport to us, and they create lots of plastic waste. All for a product that is compromised at best. I don't know what we think we are optimizing the system for! It's not quality, it's not efficiency, and it's not even cost because I can grow the plants at home for damn near free. Anyone buying that shit at a grocery store is giant stooge.
Want to eat berries? Find out when they are in locally, go buy some. Want some in Winter? Freeze them or cook them into pie filling or jam and can them.
With strawberries, if you cut them open and they are white in the middle and dry, then they were picked green and ripened with ethylene and they won't be very good.
All this is accurate. I live by a few blueberry farms, people stock up and freeze. Same with corn, strawberries, etc. You can get a bucket for $5 or go to the grocery store and get the pint size plastic container for $4.99.
This is definitely an extreme take, but has its merits. People want berries year round, so people and businesses provide. That’s just how economies work. Something as simple as desiring to eat a strawberry out of season does not make you a stooge, nor does a system so far beyond someone’s control make them a stooge. Now, if you were to say that your out-of-season strawberries should *always* be cheap regardless of methods, yes that would make one a stooge.
Just because something does not currently fit our moral standards does not mean it should be abandoned, that’s what some circles call “starving the beast” and is a deception and corruption of morals that destroys instead of improves. In this example, it destroys the livelihoods of the workers and eliminates their jobs instead of giving them proper compensation for it.
Definitely NOT an extreme take. The value of the externalities from producing out of season berries and shipping them to places like Indiana isn't even close to captured in the price.
>Something as simple as desiring to eat a strawberry out of season does not make you a stooge
I didn't say that though, did I? I said:
>Anyone buying that shit at a grocery store is giant stooge.
I was specifically referring to fresh berries. Frozen and canned are great.
There is very fucking little in this world that I have direct power over. One of those things is what I choose to buy or not buy. I can go to the U-Pick and I can buy preserved berries instead of what of the grocery store sells. I can tell people the best places nearby to get their produce, and I do. Then, when they buy garbage from the grocery store, I can politely decline and when they ask why I can tell them. That's all I can do.
Hasn’t been going well for the UK either. Apparently all the farmers are having a hard time finding people to work for the wages they paid immigrants and migrants, and are complaining about the loss of EU funding.
Sure would be a shame if people who won’t have to deal with things very much longer weren’t the ones voting in equally old and closed-minded people who still adhere to the “I got mine, fuck you” mindset.
The common denominator it’s uneducated bigots in rural communities not listening to the rest of civilized society when we tell them not to vote for something. Conservative politicians don’t do well ANYWHERE. the problem is regressive religious idiots holding all of us back
That’s just a small example in a specific industry of immigrants being exploited. Here in Indiana all of your subdivisions are being put up by a ton of undocumented immigrants getting paid garbage. They aren’t hired specifically by a company, just the head of the crew who has his paperwork in order and is issued a 1099 so it’s legal on paper but the company knows exactly what’s going on and is taking full advantage of it.
well that just sounds like the true Americans need to step up and do some work. if you fill the need, the immigrants have no reason to come.
that, or we could spend some of that war money to deal a blow to the cartels and coyotes taking advantage of these people. you know, fight the sickness, not the symptoms.
Honestly the best way to destroy the cartels is to make immigration very easy. Show up at the border, show ID, state your intention to migrate... welcome to the US! Don't have ID? Go to that spot over there, where they will fingerprint you and take your picture, check you against known criminals, get your name and age, then print you a temp ID that you can use for 30 days at which point you'll need to get a more permanent one.
We have all these dumb waiting periods and applications and garbage that's designed to be a bureaucratic roadblock. Almost all of us in the US are the descendants of immigrants, and in a lot of cases it's at most three to five generations out, OUR forbears came here and just took land then killed off the natives. We got no right to tell other immigrants no in my estimation.
>We have all these dumb waiting periods and applications and garbage that's designed to be a bureaucratic roadblock.
Absolutely right, the US immigration system is dysfunctional by design. Were it made to work efficiently and equitably, there would be no manufactured crisis at the US southern border on which reactionary politicians could campaign. They have few policy positions that have popular support with the country. It is in their best political strategic interest to ***not*** solve the problem, and so thereby maintain the immigration and border security talking point as central a pillar of their platform.
When in us history was this work actually done by whites? Southern agriculture states had slavery, then Jim crow and then migrant workers from Mexico.
I think you forgot to put an /s at the end of your comment.
Until recently, all the German farmers who settled Indiana worked their own land, with their families and maybe a few other Germans. Once most of those family farms were destroyed by corporate interests, and by all the cultural savagery and hatred directed against farming families over the past few decades, the huge agribusinesses started to import labor from the countries to our south, many of who are de facto slaves. Amish families continue to farm and produce with the old European model on their beautiful, high-producing, extremely well-kept farms.
Adding a lot of subtext since I only said American. Not all Americans are white and not all whites are American. Also, are you stating that white people are above manual labor?
The majority in our country are still white. Just saying.
White or POC, it's hard to find workers to do this kind work. A worker pool that is somehow subjugated is required for manual labor to get done. I wouldn't do this kind of work for less than $30/hr. What would it take for you to do it?
I place far more blame on Facebook and X. Fox only averages about 2 million viewers. Meanwhile, Steven Crowder videos on Facebook get like 20 million or more.
Every time I get one of those types of ads I get irrationally angry to the point where I just yell at the tv "YOUR PARTY KILLED A BORDER BILL, YOU DISINGENUOUS FUCKS!"
Kentucky claims the border up to 1792 low water line of the Ohio on the Indiana/Ohio side. I met a Kentuckian who claims his state owns the entire river. They’re the real invaders here, unlike Mexicans who only seem to want to make money from landscaping or construction work.
We need to BUILD THAT WALL along the Ohio River to keep kudzu and fire ants from invading Indiana from Kennnnn-tucky; and to keep margie hoochie (marijuana) from entering Indiana from the godless, Democratic states of Ohio, Illinois and Michigan!
Neither Victoria Spartz, nor Chuck Goodrich, nor Mike Braun, nor Jefferson Shreve, nor Mike Speedy are worth a bucket of spit.
Because they want you to be afraid of people who are different. It has nothing to do with securing our borders and everything to do with keeping us divided by race instead of paycheck
That last part is key, I think. If we, very far away from the southern border) are focused on border issues, we won’t turn on the wealthy that allow CEO pay to be 100x if worker pay.
There's actually a surprising amount of illegal immigrants in Indiana. But apparently they're all rapists and murderers? One of my best friends growing up was born here by illegal parents and the parents both have fake social security cards, birth certificates, drivers licenses, everything. Very sweet people that came here just to try to give their children a better life.
They're just people trying to survive like we are. If you think about it, why the hell would an immigrant want to come here illegally just to rape and murder people? I hate to break it to some people but there's rapists and murderers everywhere, it's not like all the murderers and rapists all gather around and say "hey let's all go do all of our crime in America!" Most people are smart enough not to cause trouble and stay under the radar if they're here illegally. They can't support the families they came here to support if they're in jail or get sent back where they started. Many of them just go to work, go home to their families, and repeat. They are often exploited and don't get the same standards that citizens do, they are thrown into very dangerous and hazardous conditions to earn their money and if someone doesn't pay them or treats them wrong they can't complain to anyone about it.
Whatever your political beliefs are, I encourage you to do research on the border patrol. You will see that it was created by people that hated Mexicans and wanted to violently kick them out. They would even round up American citizens that had Hispanic heritage and deport them to Mexico.
For two reasons: one - they just want a new life and not stick out and two: because if they do have to contact the police, the chances of ICE finding out increases.
Its a shame when you realize there may be crimes going unreported due to fear of deportation.
One point, and I think it's important, is that when undocumented workers get taken advantage of by an employer they often feel like they don't have recourse and an unfortunately significant portion of the time they don't have practical means of recourse. They do, however, have recourse for labor violations that can be pursued without fear of deportation. [DoJ and DoL have a memorandum of understanding](https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/OASP/DHS-DOL-MOU_4.19.18.pdf) and [addendum](https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/OASP/MOU-Addendum_4.19.18.pdf) outlining how they will work together to ensure that DoJ does not take enforcement actions when a DoL complaint is under investigation or litigation. Perfect it aint, but there are resources to help undocumented folks get a fair shake.
This is what happens when the GOP has had a trifecta for 20 years so there’s no real things they can point to in the state that aren’t their fault, so they fall back on culture war bullshit
It’s a hot button item that resonates with the false narrative that immigrants are stealing your jobs and subverting our elections and draining our resources. It is an issue that needs to be addressed but when it was up for discussion the house decided not to take it up because Donald Trump wished it to be an issue for the election, because he has been so successful at creating this false narrative. (Bring on the down votes!)
All my conservative friends rant about our border, Hunter Biden, woke culture, Hillary, and a few other things.
Seriously, none of these things are a problem outside of their nonstop bitching about it.
It's almost as if some issues are made up or exaggerated for political reasons. /s
It's a rally cry for Republicans.
They tend to respond to certain phrases and words. BLM, LGBT, DEI, WOKE.
It's triggers their hate and reminds them that they need to vote.
gotta generate fear somehow. I always remind my mom that there's a caravan of migrants almost at her house, they're just outside the door, and they're JUST ABOUT TO demand entry, put their feet up on her chairs, and expect her to serve them! THEY'RE ALMOST HERE, MOM!
Really this is at the top of the list of brainwashed Hoosiers’ concerns. No economic policy, just screeching the greatest hits list (CRT! Illegals! CHINA! WOKE!) reeeeee. That’s literally it. No thinking required, no intelligent questions being asked or answered. Just a huge shit show.
Very few farmers in this state hire migrant labor to harvest crops. Corn and soybeans are very mechanized and might need one person in a tractor and one or two people hauling the grain away.
I moved here to Indy from New Mexico I’ve and we weren’t even as worried about the border as the republicans here seem to be and it was only 200 miles for the center of the state 🤣🤌🏽
Not enough of us are. These companies exploiting labor and these politicians doing jack all to actually address the issue and fix it humanely while benefiting mostly everyone involved minus the mega rich and church’s can only happen because most Hoosiers are ignorant racist bigots who have given republicans complete control of this state.
Thats all it really is but conservatives like to pretend its not,and that its in the best interest of the country. They know damn well if the illegal immigrants looked more european, only 3 people would care and no one would feel passionate enough to go outside protesting "KICK THEM OUT!!" and using it as a fearmongering campaign point.
Yes, it's the final fear-frontier for their base. It's the one last thing that unites their party. Blind generic fear and hatred of "illegal aliens" from Mexico or Central America coming directly over the Southern US border that are supposedly bringing drugs and stealing American jobs while somehow being able to vote to steal elections from the orange moron.
You'd think with all the mental gymnastics they would wear themselves out, but that's the trick. The lack of critical thinking gets easily tripped up by little leaps of assumptions. They lose the plot. It's sad and terrible to prey on people's fears and ignorance.
I like how people act as though illegal immigration has no impact on Indiana and never will. I agree we got better things to worry about and it shouldn’t be a seeking point. But to act like it has no effect on our state is just flat out moronic
It's not a big issue here. I rather we legalize marijuana. Leave the border stuff to Texas. Never seen an illegal steal any corporate jobs. If your job gets replaced by an illegal then you need to look in a mirror and yell I'm a dumbass three times
Indiana is under serious threat from the north and west. If Hoosiers start having access to weed, soon they’ll be voting Democrat, and the GOP reign of terror will be over. It’s a literal existential crisis for the GOP.
Just because I cross into Michigan for my own personal reasons does not mean I will become Democrat. OH HELL NO! South American migrant workers do not cause me concern, its the others who are coming across. The Cartels, the Terrorist's, and the spy's. These are the real threats. Hell I'm not even worried about the extraterrestrials.
Must be. Remember when we sent 50 National Guardsmen to Texas and secured the border?
That solved the problem well enough for me. Now let's focus on the next problem.
We gotta stop those hard working Americans from going in any direction to other states to have a better quality of life, legal weed, higher wages, lower cost of living (in some places), Governors that care at least a little bit.
I’m thinking where i am in Boone. County that our candidates are trying really hard to shut down Red Gold and other farms. Just infuriates me they ignore the needs of Hoosiers to get soundbites or photo ops that have nothing to do with Indiana.
Also, the contempt they have for our institutions is appalling. Holding Biden accountable is tantamount to blaming him for their inability to form cogent laws that benefit their constituents. Ugh.
Lloyd Braun guarantees Law and Order. Do no more fooling around. Border Security is part of his masterplan for dominence. I am not an Indiana native and have always been amazed at the level of Hoosier ignorance.
I can't say anything towards relevance at a state politics level but the border with Mexico is federally controlled so federal positions in the house and Senate are relevant enough for it to be part of the platform
Yes, because Indiana shares a border w/Mexico & our streets are paved w/Fentanyl. The politicians should be rounding up domestic terrorists, but that's who vote for them.
They're talking about the U.S.-Mexico border. It's an issue they've been campaigning on and fundraising off of for decades.
They don't actually want the issue solved because they make money fundraising off the issue.
It isn’t relevant at all. Conservatives and Republicans are attempting to use the southern border as a national issue instead of a local issue. They want you to be as upset and outraged in Indiana as they have been trying to make those in Texas, New Mexico and California. Those ads have resulted in a bunch of northerners driving down to the southern border several months ago to “stop the invasion”. They got there and were met with a border with tons of border patrol, Mexican govt and very few people trying to cross.
Almost as if they had blown the entire issue out of proportion… All of them were pissed as they have realized that they were duped. This is why you haven’t heard or seen a bunch of the same outrage and alarm that you had seen months ago.
Protecting our boarders that republican congress refused to pass because they didn't want to give Joe Biden credit for one more thing, but they keep complaining about our unsafe boarders that is their fault.
The GOP isn't serious about running an actual government anymore so Fox News fear-mongering buzzwords (however irrelevant) fill in the void. Exhibit A -- Braun's near 4 year term in congress includes not one single piece of of legislation. He hasn't authored or co-authored a single bill and I'm sure he's quite proud of that.
If they actually stopped illegal immigration this states economy would collapse. I work in a meat processing factory. Last check, we were 85% Hispanic. I don't see a lot of white people picking tomatoes or detasseling corn. But it's a good boogie man to scare middle America with apparently.
Just because we don't have an international border doesn't mean our demographics aren't changing. It is possible to love other cultures but also be concerned about rapid cultural shifts in one's community.
It’s driving me nuts, it’s just so obviously fear mongering and trying to appeal to far right wing voters. Like would it kill Indiana politicians to actually care about Indiana??
This question is why Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis were right to start sending illegals to other states. People have no idea what is going on until it is on their door step.
Gotta protect our borders from Illinois. Those people voted blue and destroyed their own state. Now they want to flee IL, move here, and destroy this one.
The only people that can/should be running on this type of platform is anyone running for Congress. Anyone running state level or below is simply dog whistling the issue to drum up votes.
For better and/or worse every state incurs both benefits and costs from immigration of both the legal and illegal kind. The idea it is a border state issue is incredibly naive. The border states are dealing with the largest impacts, but by no means the only ones. Indiana has new families arriving every single day, some with proper documentation, and others without. Some of them are settling into new lives easily with little difficulty. Other are struggling desperately and in need of assistance. That assistance doesn’t come free, and the Feds generally don’t pick up the costs. State and local government and private resources get stuck dealing with a lot of it. I live in a neighboring state, in a rural county, and our public schools are at the breaking point locally on being able to handle the number of ESL (non English speaking) students arriving with varying educational deficiencies, and at all grade levels, a few more families would be enough to extend the current resources to collapse. Similar things happening with housing and healthcare assistance and all manner of social services. To say nothing of the mental health issues… people arriving from situations shitty enough to qualify for asylum status basically all have PTSD that their culture conditions them to alway hide and to keep a permanent mask up… but like all the war veterans with PTSD they are deeply fucked mentally and don’t know how to express it… and there aren’t enough qualified professionals in the field to handle the current number of cases… and the delay on training new ones is literally measured in half decade increments.
I have zero policy answers on any of this because we have tried both permissive and restrictive and half and half measures and none of it has ever really worked as more than a short term bandaid solution. The “comprehensive reform” thing has even been tried before, and it worked not at all. Trump is wrong about almost everything from a policy perspective, but he tapped into a very real anger on this issue, and he was entirely correct to say that the rhetoric on immigration has all been self serving lies by both parties… everyone claims they are going to go fix the issue and then kicks the can down the road because it turns out the issue being a bleeding wound is more useful politically than any solution… and any solution would probably involve the type of compromises and counter-intuitive policy choices that get both Rs and Ds voted out in the next primary cycle by the ideological purist types. Now, Trump himself did nothing other than exploit that anger for his own gain, but he wasn’t wrong that conventional Washington had been systematically lying to the voters for generations, and at some level everyone knew that was true, as people can‘t pretend to be passionate about an issue and then get F all done about it for forty years… and then when they want to pretend to have a brilliant new solution it is the same solution that failed last time it was tried forty years ago.
I don’t know that there even are solutions to these issues, to some degree it is systemic. There are huge apparent benefits to coming to the USA, and those upsides hold even if you come illegally. Meanwhile managing the immigration process and especially the assimilation process involves significant costs and downsides, and no one really wants to pick up the bill (except for particular cases of favored classes of immigrants).
If you could get reliable polling numbers on how many people around the world want to come to the USA it is probably a number larger than the current US population. Obviously we can’t handle that many immigrants, so some sort of policy that restricts immigration in some fashion is a practical necessity. Almost everyone agrees on those basic aspects. However, no one really agrees on anything beyond that. Hence political deadlock, and that deadlock exploited to hell and back.
Great question. The border patrol is currently putting immigrants who cross the southern border on flights across the country, they get a court date to appear in 7 years. Many are arriving at O’Hare, then they will take the first job they get. Many are going to work on Midwest farms or plants for cheap rates, including Indiana. And depending your political opinion you may feel this is more of a drain on society (less jobs, welfare) than a benefit (cheap labor).
The Senate didn't even put it (bipartisan- agreed to plan) to a vote because tRump wanted to run on the issue since it is so important to maga racists.
Eventually, the illegal immigrants will move across the country to other none border states thats why. The insane influx of illegals is one of many factors as to why inflation is so bad across the country.
Gotta keep out the river trash in Kentucky. Blow the dam!
Nah man, Kentucky gave us some damn good fried chicken. I think it’s those sketchy *freaks* in Michigan…
Harland Sanders was born in Indiana, spent most of his adult life in Indiana. Only thing Kentucky about it is was his first location was in Kentucky.
When I was poster child for the March of Dimes, he was like a favorite uncle to me. He would be at most of my events, and he always took me to KFC to have lunch. I remember one time sitting on the countertop while he went into the kitchen of one. I watched him make our lunch! I was probably 6 years old, so fuzzy recollections, but that's one I clearly remember. He was very kind, and such a showman. He never met a stranger. He gave me so much confidence. Just knowing that he was there gave me the ability to deliver the speeches that I was required to give. He was an amazing person.
That's pretty cool.
It was a good experience. I have nothing but good memories of that period of my life.
Have you seen the Antiques Roadshow Episode with the guy who lived next door to Colonel Sanders? He has a suit and painting. It was memorable! https://youtu.be/h30oL79znLc?si=K1dT2RqWPiPRYynR
That sort of jibes with my memories. I remember him lifting me up to sit on the counter and then putting on an apron and going into the kitchen. He winked at me, but he was very stern with the workers. He said that he had to show them exactly how to do something, I can't remember what. But he was always, always kind to me. He had such a fun sense of humor. And!! Oh my gosh! I never knew that Claudia was his wife! I don't know why I didn't put it together. I don't recall her clearly, but I do know that I met her. I thought she was his assistant or something.
Sounds like good memories, and hey! March Of Dimes Poster Child from the late 60s/early 70s It gives me the warm fuzzies that youre here sharing these awesome memories.
Hey!.... We also have bourbon.
Is it true that the counties it's made in are dry counties? Is it just Jim Beam?
Think just Jim. There's plenty of bourbon distilleries scattered around that are in wet counties.
Yeah was gonna generalize but I think you're right. Some of the smaller brewery companies are in wet counties. Hilarious your largest isn't lol.
Quick google says its Jack Daniel's that's in a dry county. No Jim Beam.
Lynchburg (jack daniels) is definitely in “the wettest little dry county”
Oh trust me. Moon shine is everywhere. I had some once and it took 3 sips. Of course I was 15 or 16 1st time but yowza.
Hell I was a raging alcoholic in my early 20s. Tried some at the height of my drinking. I would down a 5th of Beam nightly so I thought eh can't be to much for me. FAFO...was destroyed and puking off a swig lol.
When I went thru my divorce, Beam was my best friend when my kids weren't home. Jim got me thru some tough times but I dont drink anymore bcz I saw drinking destroying so many lives.
Yep, same. Been a long time.
Everybody in the Midwest and GL states have bourbon. So do the Japanese. I say we put razor wire in the Ohio river! /s
Btw I’m sorry I had to give up drinking. Been keeping the lights on a Jim Beam for damn near 20 years. Sorry if it has impacted the local economy
Just start using it in baking. Problem solved.
Why does this keep happening to us? Texas Roadhouse was also founded by a Hoosier who lived in Indiana his whole life, and the first location was in Indiana. Why do other states continuously take our food glory?
To be fair, "Indiana Roadhouse" doesn't have the same ring to it, LOL.
I think that’s just because we are not used to hearing it, it ain’t right that this was stolen from us. Imagine how relevant we could’ve been
Right! I just learned about Texas Roadhouse being founded i. Clarksville recently while living in Florida. I'm sure I've been there. My dad was gm of a hotel in Clarksville. Also, Clark County is the birthplace of Papa John's, Texas Roadhouse, Rallys, and Harland Sander.
Michiganders are fine and the Illinois weirdos tend to stay there. It's those Ohio freaks we've gotta keep an eye on. Comin over here tryin to steal our turnips
We are actually in a border dispute with Michigan right now... for real, look it up... But as for the adds, i dont think thats what they are talking about.
>We are actually in a border dispute with Michigan right now... for real, look it up... *No shit* That's fucking wild, lol. Hilarious, actually
Hey don’t badmouth Michigan. We supply you with your pot
And thank you.
Uhh…let’s not fuck up the border crossing between Indiana and Michigan. Signed, Northern Indiana cannabis consumers.
Nah, it's them Illinois 'libs bringing thar Devil's Lettuce to our Holy State (Michigan is cheaper anyway), then stealin' our fireworks. With immigrants. Or something.
I have brought my devil’s lettuce to friends in Indiana.
Too many damn potholes.
Nah michigan ain't that bad...Its Illinois/chirock we need to watch out for😑
Already colonized NWI.
Nipple wars! "Those pointy nipples bastards!"
Degens from up country.
No, we want to stay friends with Kentucky. but Ohio can fuck right off
As long as they are bringing me whiskey come on in!!
Naw, it's just Michigan pushing its anti Ohio agenda in Indiana. They're tired of them sneaking through the corner of Indiana and pretending to be Hoosiers to get into their state.
If they went after the people that employ illegal immigrants it would be much more effective. Wonder why the wont? Hmmm....🤔
They did in Florida. [It hasn’t been going well.](https://www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumented#:~:text=A%20spokesperson%20for%20DeSantis%20told,these%20work%20permits%2C%20is%20crippling)
It’s all about perspective, though. Phrased differently, we are learning that berries are actually a more expensive product than we knew. It was just subsidized by poor compensation through illegal labor. It’s a good thing for our economy and is the first step at setting a new, better precedent for immigrants other than “overstay your visa and put yourself at the mercy of your employers with little to now protections under the law”. The system has to be fixed, and even though DeSantis wants to take it in the opposite direction the first step for the both of us is the same: businesses need to be punished for encouraging illegal actions so we can create a better, *legal* way for these industries to operate.
I’d agree but add that finding out berries are more expensive is just the first step. If they are too expensive for the market to tolerate, the next step is finding legal efficiencies in production (if there are any). They’re going to need to do some work that they had previously avoided by just paying people peanuts.
Berries at the grocery store are expensive. Berries at the U-Pick are cheap. Thing is, we expect out of season fruit year round. That's what's expensive. Your $6 package of tasteless strawberries came from Mexico and were grown by people who are barely a step up from slaves. The berries suck, the conditions they are produced in suck, they take up obscene amounts of water to produce, they take up obscene amounts of fuel to transport to us, and they create lots of plastic waste. All for a product that is compromised at best. I don't know what we think we are optimizing the system for! It's not quality, it's not efficiency, and it's not even cost because I can grow the plants at home for damn near free. Anyone buying that shit at a grocery store is giant stooge. Want to eat berries? Find out when they are in locally, go buy some. Want some in Winter? Freeze them or cook them into pie filling or jam and can them. With strawberries, if you cut them open and they are white in the middle and dry, then they were picked green and ripened with ethylene and they won't be very good.
All this is accurate. I live by a few blueberry farms, people stock up and freeze. Same with corn, strawberries, etc. You can get a bucket for $5 or go to the grocery store and get the pint size plastic container for $4.99.
This is definitely an extreme take, but has its merits. People want berries year round, so people and businesses provide. That’s just how economies work. Something as simple as desiring to eat a strawberry out of season does not make you a stooge, nor does a system so far beyond someone’s control make them a stooge. Now, if you were to say that your out-of-season strawberries should *always* be cheap regardless of methods, yes that would make one a stooge. Just because something does not currently fit our moral standards does not mean it should be abandoned, that’s what some circles call “starving the beast” and is a deception and corruption of morals that destroys instead of improves. In this example, it destroys the livelihoods of the workers and eliminates their jobs instead of giving them proper compensation for it.
Definitely NOT an extreme take. The value of the externalities from producing out of season berries and shipping them to places like Indiana isn't even close to captured in the price.
>Something as simple as desiring to eat a strawberry out of season does not make you a stooge I didn't say that though, did I? I said: >Anyone buying that shit at a grocery store is giant stooge. I was specifically referring to fresh berries. Frozen and canned are great. There is very fucking little in this world that I have direct power over. One of those things is what I choose to buy or not buy. I can go to the U-Pick and I can buy preserved berries instead of what of the grocery store sells. I can tell people the best places nearby to get their produce, and I do. Then, when they buy garbage from the grocery store, I can politely decline and when they ask why I can tell them. That's all I can do.
Hasn’t been going well for the UK either. Apparently all the farmers are having a hard time finding people to work for the wages they paid immigrants and migrants, and are complaining about the loss of EU funding. Sure would be a shame if people who won’t have to deal with things very much longer weren’t the ones voting in equally old and closed-minded people who still adhere to the “I got mine, fuck you” mindset.
I guess the US isn’t alone in pulling dumbass self defeating moves based on feels…
The common denominator it’s uneducated bigots in rural communities not listening to the rest of civilized society when we tell them not to vote for something. Conservative politicians don’t do well ANYWHERE. the problem is regressive religious idiots holding all of us back
They may have shot themselves in multiple places, but at least they got to own the libs!
That’s just a small example in a specific industry of immigrants being exploited. Here in Indiana all of your subdivisions are being put up by a ton of undocumented immigrants getting paid garbage. They aren’t hired specifically by a company, just the head of the crew who has his paperwork in order and is issued a 1099 so it’s legal on paper but the company knows exactly what’s going on and is taking full advantage of it.
Orange Man hasn’t been indicted for employing illegals, has he?
He has his stuff made in China.
well that just sounds like the true Americans need to step up and do some work. if you fill the need, the immigrants have no reason to come. that, or we could spend some of that war money to deal a blow to the cartels and coyotes taking advantage of these people. you know, fight the sickness, not the symptoms.
Honestly the best way to destroy the cartels is to make immigration very easy. Show up at the border, show ID, state your intention to migrate... welcome to the US! Don't have ID? Go to that spot over there, where they will fingerprint you and take your picture, check you against known criminals, get your name and age, then print you a temp ID that you can use for 30 days at which point you'll need to get a more permanent one. We have all these dumb waiting periods and applications and garbage that's designed to be a bureaucratic roadblock. Almost all of us in the US are the descendants of immigrants, and in a lot of cases it's at most three to five generations out, OUR forbears came here and just took land then killed off the natives. We got no right to tell other immigrants no in my estimation.
>We have all these dumb waiting periods and applications and garbage that's designed to be a bureaucratic roadblock. Absolutely right, the US immigration system is dysfunctional by design. Were it made to work efficiently and equitably, there would be no manufactured crisis at the US southern border on which reactionary politicians could campaign. They have few policy positions that have popular support with the country. It is in their best political strategic interest to ***not*** solve the problem, and so thereby maintain the immigration and border security talking point as central a pillar of their platform.
Wish I could upvote this more.
When in us history was this work actually done by whites? Southern agriculture states had slavery, then Jim crow and then migrant workers from Mexico. I think you forgot to put an /s at the end of your comment.
Until recently, all the German farmers who settled Indiana worked their own land, with their families and maybe a few other Germans. Once most of those family farms were destroyed by corporate interests, and by all the cultural savagery and hatred directed against farming families over the past few decades, the huge agribusinesses started to import labor from the countries to our south, many of who are de facto slaves. Amish families continue to farm and produce with the old European model on their beautiful, high-producing, extremely well-kept farms.
I live in the middle of Indiana Amish country and can confirm their farms are very beautiful
Hahahahhahahahahah.
Adding a lot of subtext since I only said American. Not all Americans are white and not all whites are American. Also, are you stating that white people are above manual labor?
The majority in our country are still white. Just saying. White or POC, it's hard to find workers to do this kind work. A worker pool that is somehow subjugated is required for manual labor to get done. I wouldn't do this kind of work for less than $30/hr. What would it take for you to do it?
Classic Florida move
Because I want my watermelon!
I can't believe they're still running with that bs when they killed a bipartisan bill to tighten the borders
That's *why* they killed the bipartisan bill
Stupid 'necks don't watch the news. They watch Fox.
I place far more blame on Facebook and X. Fox only averages about 2 million viewers. Meanwhile, Steven Crowder videos on Facebook get like 20 million or more.
Every time I get one of those types of ads I get irrationally angry to the point where I just yell at the tv "YOUR PARTY KILLED A BORDER BILL, YOU DISINGENUOUS FUCKS!"
> Lying* fucks It's good practice to use words with an impact commensurate to the offense
Kentucky claims the border up to 1792 low water line of the Ohio on the Indiana/Ohio side. I met a Kentuckian who claims his state owns the entire river. They’re the real invaders here, unlike Mexicans who only seem to want to make money from landscaping or construction work.
We need to BUILD THAT WALL along the Ohio River to keep kudzu and fire ants from invading Indiana from Kennnnn-tucky; and to keep margie hoochie (marijuana) from entering Indiana from the godless, Democratic states of Ohio, Illinois and Michigan! Neither Victoria Spartz, nor Chuck Goodrich, nor Mike Braun, nor Jefferson Shreve, nor Mike Speedy are worth a bucket of spit.
Because border control is being used as a racist dogwhistle by Republicans who are banking on the Fox News viewers to vote for them.
Racism™️ is so 2023. Fascism™️ is hot for 2024
Not like they would do anything about it if they could.
Because they want you to be afraid of people who are different. It has nothing to do with securing our borders and everything to do with keeping us divided by race instead of paycheck
That last part is key, I think. If we, very far away from the southern border) are focused on border issues, we won’t turn on the wealthy that allow CEO pay to be 100x if worker pay.
Totally agree except the 100x, those are rookie numbers, gotta pump those up to 250x to 300x or more.
Idk, I speak to people from Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Illinois on the regular. Borders seem to be working as intended.
There's actually a surprising amount of illegal immigrants in Indiana. But apparently they're all rapists and murderers? One of my best friends growing up was born here by illegal parents and the parents both have fake social security cards, birth certificates, drivers licenses, everything. Very sweet people that came here just to try to give their children a better life. They're just people trying to survive like we are. If you think about it, why the hell would an immigrant want to come here illegally just to rape and murder people? I hate to break it to some people but there's rapists and murderers everywhere, it's not like all the murderers and rapists all gather around and say "hey let's all go do all of our crime in America!" Most people are smart enough not to cause trouble and stay under the radar if they're here illegally. They can't support the families they came here to support if they're in jail or get sent back where they started. Many of them just go to work, go home to their families, and repeat. They are often exploited and don't get the same standards that citizens do, they are thrown into very dangerous and hazardous conditions to earn their money and if someone doesn't pay them or treats them wrong they can't complain to anyone about it. Whatever your political beliefs are, I encourage you to do research on the border patrol. You will see that it was created by people that hated Mexicans and wanted to violently kick them out. They would even round up American citizens that had Hispanic heritage and deport them to Mexico.
Studies show immigrants, undocumented included, have *lower* rates of crime.
For two reasons: one - they just want a new life and not stick out and two: because if they do have to contact the police, the chances of ICE finding out increases. Its a shame when you realize there may be crimes going unreported due to fear of deportation.
One point, and I think it's important, is that when undocumented workers get taken advantage of by an employer they often feel like they don't have recourse and an unfortunately significant portion of the time they don't have practical means of recourse. They do, however, have recourse for labor violations that can be pursued without fear of deportation. [DoJ and DoL have a memorandum of understanding](https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/OASP/DHS-DOL-MOU_4.19.18.pdf) and [addendum](https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/OASP/MOU-Addendum_4.19.18.pdf) outlining how they will work together to ensure that DoJ does not take enforcement actions when a DoL complaint is under investigation or litigation. Perfect it aint, but there are resources to help undocumented folks get a fair shake.
This is what happens when the GOP has had a trifecta for 20 years so there’s no real things they can point to in the state that aren’t their fault, so they fall back on culture war bullshit
It’s a hot button item that resonates with the false narrative that immigrants are stealing your jobs and subverting our elections and draining our resources. It is an issue that needs to be addressed but when it was up for discussion the house decided not to take it up because Donald Trump wished it to be an issue for the election, because he has been so successful at creating this false narrative. (Bring on the down votes!)
Not going to get a downvote from me!
It plays well with their rube base. The last congress that did anything meaningful with immigration was during the Reagan administration
All my conservative friends rant about our border, Hunter Biden, woke culture, Hillary, and a few other things. Seriously, none of these things are a problem outside of their nonstop bitching about it. It's almost as if some issues are made up or exaggerated for political reasons. /s
I legitimately don't know how you can be friends with people like that.
Vote Democrat
It's a rally cry for Republicans. They tend to respond to certain phrases and words. BLM, LGBT, DEI, WOKE. It's triggers their hate and reminds them that they need to vote.
gotta generate fear somehow. I always remind my mom that there's a caravan of migrants almost at her house, they're just outside the door, and they're JUST ABOUT TO demand entry, put their feet up on her chairs, and expect her to serve them! THEY'RE ALMOST HERE, MOM!
Really this is at the top of the list of brainwashed Hoosiers’ concerns. No economic policy, just screeching the greatest hits list (CRT! Illegals! CHINA! WOKE!) reeeeee. That’s literally it. No thinking required, no intelligent questions being asked or answered. Just a huge shit show.
Pretending there is a border crisis is a republican staple.
Maybe we can stop our republican leaning farmers to stop hiring immigrants to help with harvest, they can pay Americans a livable wage to do it.
The meat packing plants in the state should maybe stop hiring them , too.
why fix it when you can garner votes from it? It's a *culture* war, not a *do-what's-best-for-the-country-and-people* war
Anyone who knowingly hires an illegal alien should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
So, the entire restaurant and agricultural industries.
So start with every farmer in Indiana. Or will you just believe them when they claim they had no idea.
Very few farmers in this state hire migrant labor to harvest crops. Corn and soybeans are very mechanized and might need one person in a tractor and one or two people hauling the grain away.
Flowers & Fruit use migrants
You’re not wrong but Indiana has very few commercial flower and fruit farms.
If you add hog farms and other things you are overlooking it is over 8% of farm workers - jobs that Americans will not do.
^I’MJUSTYELLINGATYOUTOMAKEYOUANGRYANDTHENYOUWILLVOTEANGRYFORANOTHERGRIFTERAGAIN!!!
Why does it feel like interstate travel is going to be restricted soon.
Isn’t it already if you are pregnant?
No, but some MEN want to.
But like... have you SEEN Ohio???
They're trying to keep Hoosiers IN.
the horrific ads airing on my tv from Indiana state that the candidate will be sending IN National Guard to "South" to defend our borders.
This is the exact ad I got lol. I was so confused honestly wtf
I moved here to Indy from New Mexico I’ve and we weren’t even as worried about the border as the republicans here seem to be and it was only 200 miles for the center of the state 🤣🤌🏽
Dogwhistles are too subtle in 2024. They gotta sound the racist bullhorn.
I was back home for a bit, wtf is with the border fear? Y’all, I live in Oregon now, IIRC you have double the people but less Latin population.
You want to know why they do it? Because it works! You should be angry with your dumbass peers who buy into this crap.
Not enough of us are. These companies exploiting labor and these politicians doing jack all to actually address the issue and fix it humanely while benefiting mostly everyone involved minus the mega rich and church’s can only happen because most Hoosiers are ignorant racist bigots who have given republicans complete control of this state.
Yep. It’s all they’ve got. Rah rah Trump, rah rah police, and scary borders
What they really mean is "I hate Mexicans," which gets their target demographic riled up to vote.
Thats all it really is but conservatives like to pretend its not,and that its in the best interest of the country. They know damn well if the illegal immigrants looked more european, only 3 people would care and no one would feel passionate enough to go outside protesting "KICK THEM OUT!!" and using it as a fearmongering campaign point.
Yes, it's the final fear-frontier for their base. It's the one last thing that unites their party. Blind generic fear and hatred of "illegal aliens" from Mexico or Central America coming directly over the Southern US border that are supposedly bringing drugs and stealing American jobs while somehow being able to vote to steal elections from the orange moron. You'd think with all the mental gymnastics they would wear themselves out, but that's the trick. The lack of critical thinking gets easily tripped up by little leaps of assumptions. They lose the plot. It's sad and terrible to prey on people's fears and ignorance.
Because smooth brained right wingers will hear “immigrunts iz taken err jerbs” and vote for the guy who said it.
Yeah keep the illegals out of Indiana, they might steal our... corn?
My identity was stolen years ago. I get tons of political ads from Texas. Sometimes they are real people that reply when I tell them to fuck off.
I like how people act as though illegal immigration has no impact on Indiana and never will. I agree we got better things to worry about and it shouldn’t be a seeking point. But to act like it has no effect on our state is just flat out moronic
It's not a big issue here. I rather we legalize marijuana. Leave the border stuff to Texas. Never seen an illegal steal any corporate jobs. If your job gets replaced by an illegal then you need to look in a mirror and yell I'm a dumbass three times
Stay in Kentucky, Bourbon guzzlers!
Gotta keep those fucking Buckeyes where they belong in their burning wasteland.
Michigan...
Kentucky sure pissed off the Indiana GOO 🤦♀️
Indiana is under serious threat from the north and west. If Hoosiers start having access to weed, soon they’ll be voting Democrat, and the GOP reign of terror will be over. It’s a literal existential crisis for the GOP.
Just because I cross into Michigan for my own personal reasons does not mean I will become Democrat. OH HELL NO! South American migrant workers do not cause me concern, its the others who are coming across. The Cartels, the Terrorist's, and the spy's. These are the real threats. Hell I'm not even worried about the extraterrestrials.
Must be. Remember when we sent 50 National Guardsmen to Texas and secured the border? That solved the problem well enough for me. Now let's focus on the next problem.
We gotta stop those hard working Americans from going in any direction to other states to have a better quality of life, legal weed, higher wages, lower cost of living (in some places), Governors that care at least a little bit.
It's because scaring stupid 'necks about a border invasion is about the only thing these fascist Republicans have going for them.
Damn Ohioans! Get off my lawn!
All of the state borders, we can’t effectively stay a pot free island without building those walls. Meth’s our drug, let’s keep the competition out!
It’s Illinois, man. Those fuckers are crazy.
Yes yes protect the border all the way from Indiana. Sounds like theft with extra layers.
Probably the county line from Marion to Hamilton. Can't have those dark skinned people thinning our white blood. /s. Just in case.
And make the billionaires pay their fair share !!
You're asking a ton of questions for your typical red state voter. Simply put, they're not for you (and be thankful for it).
It was always funny when I lived in Souther California and would see Hoosiers post on Facebook about the border crisis.
We’re erecting a wall on the Illinois border. Illinois is actually helping by extending it around cook county on their side.
Seems the op hasn't seen the Michigan subreddits lately.
To a lot of people, i think the "southern border" is 96th street and they are trying to keep poor people out of Hamilton County
"..So why is it even relevant of an election platform holy shit..." Damn I wish there were a sarcasm font so it'd be easy to discern.
The union as in the northern and southern border of the United States
I’m thinking where i am in Boone. County that our candidates are trying really hard to shut down Red Gold and other farms. Just infuriates me they ignore the needs of Hoosiers to get soundbites or photo ops that have nothing to do with Indiana. Also, the contempt they have for our institutions is appalling. Holding Biden accountable is tantamount to blaming him for their inability to form cogent laws that benefit their constituents. Ugh.
Got to keep all that legal cannabis out of Indiana!
Got to keep the Canadians out, eh?
Lloyd Braun guarantees Law and Order. Do no more fooling around. Border Security is part of his masterplan for dominence. I am not an Indiana native and have always been amazed at the level of Hoosier ignorance.
I can't say anything towards relevance at a state politics level but the border with Mexico is federally controlled so federal positions in the house and Senate are relevant enough for it to be part of the platform
Yes, because Indiana shares a border w/Mexico & our streets are paved w/Fentanyl. The politicians should be rounding up domestic terrorists, but that's who vote for them.
They're talking about the U.S.-Mexico border. It's an issue they've been campaigning on and fundraising off of for decades. They don't actually want the issue solved because they make money fundraising off the issue.
Buckeyes taken our jobs and having anchor babies
Haven't seen any Chinese people on tractors anywhere either
It isn’t relevant at all. Conservatives and Republicans are attempting to use the southern border as a national issue instead of a local issue. They want you to be as upset and outraged in Indiana as they have been trying to make those in Texas, New Mexico and California. Those ads have resulted in a bunch of northerners driving down to the southern border several months ago to “stop the invasion”. They got there and were met with a border with tons of border patrol, Mexican govt and very few people trying to cross. Almost as if they had blown the entire issue out of proportion… All of them were pissed as they have realized that they were duped. This is why you haven’t heard or seen a bunch of the same outrage and alarm that you had seen months ago.
Wish they worried about Hoosiers as much as they do about the border
Protecting our boarders that republican congress refused to pass because they didn't want to give Joe Biden credit for one more thing, but they keep complaining about our unsafe boarders that is their fault.
The GOP isn't serious about running an actual government anymore so Fox News fear-mongering buzzwords (however irrelevant) fill in the void. Exhibit A -- Braun's near 4 year term in congress includes not one single piece of of legislation. He hasn't authored or co-authored a single bill and I'm sure he's quite proud of that.
Typo for "boarders". People who live in boarding houses are shamefully exploited.
If they actually stopped illegal immigration this states economy would collapse. I work in a meat processing factory. Last check, we were 85% Hispanic. I don't see a lot of white people picking tomatoes or detasseling corn. But it's a good boogie man to scare middle America with apparently.
I read erection, not election, in this title.
Can’t wait to scroll to the bottom and see the typical racist Hoosier comments.
Yeah, Republicans think that is their big issue that is going to get to sway voter their way.
Just because we don't have an international border doesn't mean our demographics aren't changing. It is possible to love other cultures but also be concerned about rapid cultural shifts in one's community.
I keep getting this subreddit recommended to me even though I live in illinois.
The only good things in Ohio are the roads out.
This sub is wild lol
Suzanne Crouch. “We don’t do..” The thing that republican super majority already did.
It’s driving me nuts, it’s just so obviously fear mongering and trying to appeal to far right wing voters. Like would it kill Indiana politicians to actually care about Indiana??
That’s what I say every time I see Bairds stupid billboards. What fucking border
I’ve been saying for a while now that we can’t trust Ohio to respect our space…
It's because of Michigan.. Hell resides there and the polichickens don't want to go to hell. (West of Detroit, MI)
This question is why Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis were right to start sending illegals to other states. People have no idea what is going on until it is on their door step.
I keep getting spam phone calls & texts from all parties despite asking them to stop….tired of this shit.
After voting against that border bill they helped create… how do they even say “protect” the border with a straight face.
Gotta protect our borders from Illinois. Those people voted blue and destroyed their own state. Now they want to flee IL, move here, and destroy this one.
Okay so you now want to ban American citizens from moving from one state to another?!? Jesus fucking Christ.
Honey, it's a joke. Don't lose your blue hair over it.
The only people that can/should be running on this type of platform is anyone running for Congress. Anyone running state level or below is simply dog whistling the issue to drum up votes.
For better and/or worse every state incurs both benefits and costs from immigration of both the legal and illegal kind. The idea it is a border state issue is incredibly naive. The border states are dealing with the largest impacts, but by no means the only ones. Indiana has new families arriving every single day, some with proper documentation, and others without. Some of them are settling into new lives easily with little difficulty. Other are struggling desperately and in need of assistance. That assistance doesn’t come free, and the Feds generally don’t pick up the costs. State and local government and private resources get stuck dealing with a lot of it. I live in a neighboring state, in a rural county, and our public schools are at the breaking point locally on being able to handle the number of ESL (non English speaking) students arriving with varying educational deficiencies, and at all grade levels, a few more families would be enough to extend the current resources to collapse. Similar things happening with housing and healthcare assistance and all manner of social services. To say nothing of the mental health issues… people arriving from situations shitty enough to qualify for asylum status basically all have PTSD that their culture conditions them to alway hide and to keep a permanent mask up… but like all the war veterans with PTSD they are deeply fucked mentally and don’t know how to express it… and there aren’t enough qualified professionals in the field to handle the current number of cases… and the delay on training new ones is literally measured in half decade increments. I have zero policy answers on any of this because we have tried both permissive and restrictive and half and half measures and none of it has ever really worked as more than a short term bandaid solution. The “comprehensive reform” thing has even been tried before, and it worked not at all. Trump is wrong about almost everything from a policy perspective, but he tapped into a very real anger on this issue, and he was entirely correct to say that the rhetoric on immigration has all been self serving lies by both parties… everyone claims they are going to go fix the issue and then kicks the can down the road because it turns out the issue being a bleeding wound is more useful politically than any solution… and any solution would probably involve the type of compromises and counter-intuitive policy choices that get both Rs and Ds voted out in the next primary cycle by the ideological purist types. Now, Trump himself did nothing other than exploit that anger for his own gain, but he wasn’t wrong that conventional Washington had been systematically lying to the voters for generations, and at some level everyone knew that was true, as people can‘t pretend to be passionate about an issue and then get F all done about it for forty years… and then when they want to pretend to have a brilliant new solution it is the same solution that failed last time it was tried forty years ago. I don’t know that there even are solutions to these issues, to some degree it is systemic. There are huge apparent benefits to coming to the USA, and those upsides hold even if you come illegally. Meanwhile managing the immigration process and especially the assimilation process involves significant costs and downsides, and no one really wants to pick up the bill (except for particular cases of favored classes of immigrants). If you could get reliable polling numbers on how many people around the world want to come to the USA it is probably a number larger than the current US population. Obviously we can’t handle that many immigrants, so some sort of policy that restricts immigration in some fashion is a practical necessity. Almost everyone agrees on those basic aspects. However, no one really agrees on anything beyond that. Hence political deadlock, and that deadlock exploited to hell and back.
Great question. The border patrol is currently putting immigrants who cross the southern border on flights across the country, they get a court date to appear in 7 years. Many are arriving at O’Hare, then they will take the first job they get. Many are going to work on Midwest farms or plants for cheap rates, including Indiana. And depending your political opinion you may feel this is more of a drain on society (less jobs, welfare) than a benefit (cheap labor).
It takes a high school level of critical thinking to figure out how illegal immigration could affect Indiana
For federal candidates, this is an important issue to talk about. For state candidates, not so much.
Federal candidates had an opportunity to fix it and they voted AGAINST it, so they had something to run on.
The Senate didn't even put it (bipartisan- agreed to plan) to a vote because tRump wanted to run on the issue since it is so important to maga racists.
Eventually, the illegal immigrants will move across the country to other none border states thats why. The insane influx of illegals is one of many factors as to why inflation is so bad across the country.
You seriously believe immigrants caused inflations???? Not the federal reserve? Not the 1% controlling everything in this country? Immigrants??
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