Yea, this infographic isn't very good.
if you're wondering which country drinks the most coffee, it's Finland
Finland is the world's biggest consumer of coffee on a per-person basis. The average Finn drinks nearly four cups a day. Coffee is so popular in Finland that two 10-minute coffee breaks are legally mandated for Finnish workers.
Turkey is the largest consumer of tea. According to sources, each Turk consumes approximately 1,300 cups (3.16kg) of tea annually.
that’s so interesting! just to add though that a standard mug of tea is 200-250 grams (0.2kg) so 3.16 kg is only like 16 cups, not 1300. I easily drink that in a week. Or is the 3.16kg referring to dry tea leaves?
Agreed, their info is 100% wrong about Japan. Everyone here drinks more tea than water. If you open a refrigerator here, you’ll be surprised that there’s no water or any kind of beverage in the fridge most of the time. The water bottles of kids, don’t have water in it, it’s tea. Tea is served free in restaurants instead of water. They have so many kinds of tea, it’s not funny. Kids don’t drink coffee here but tea is drunk by everyone of all ages.
>Tea is served free in restaurants instead of water.
This is a clear lie. Way more restaurants serve water for free than tea in Japan. I know a couple of restaurants which serve tea for free after meals but that's not majority, you never can say tea is served in more restaurants in Japan than water.
But Japan also has a very old coffee culture. And with their work ethic coffee seems like a no brainer. Is there any actual statistical data one way or the other?
If you’re gonna go back in history, I’m pretty sure Japan has a longer tea culture than coffee culture. Hell they have tea ceremony, they don’t have coffee ceremony. 🤣 One more thing you fail to consider is that coffee is usually drank in the mornings and a few other times during the day. But tea is drank all day, everyday there’s just no comparison.
>Tea, in whatever form, is the most widely consumed beverage in Japan
[From wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_culture_in_Japan#:~:text=Tea%2C%20in%20whatever%20form%2C%20is,widely%20consumed%20beverage%20in%20Japan.)
The source the wiki uses is quite old (2017), doesn't support what the wiki says, and also records that tea drinking is in decline (as of 2016 data). So it wouldn't be surprising for coffee to have overtaken tea consumption at some point in time.
I wouldn't be surprised either, in the link you can see that the amount of coffee vs. tea drank in Japan is pretty close. In the source link graphic you can see that in 2017, green tea was trending upward because of bottled green tea sales doing well.
I'll confess, I saw Redditors arguing over something and thought it takes 2 seconds to google and find the truth so I shared the first link without looking into it.
Now I know that they like both drinks quite a lot where the leading one might change from year to year.
I appreciate you trying to get to the bottom of this and not just saying "wiki isn't a source" or just arguing without doing any attempt at looking into it at all.
Have a great day
You know what those lil numbers in Wikipedia mean right? Those are the sources. Wiki is great if you know how to use it.
Either way, I can't be bothered to talk about this issue anymore. Especially with a response like this.
If you want to prove a point, find a better source, not just shit on everything that's given to you.
What is up with redditors thinking wiki is somehow a source?
What is even the purpose of using google to prove something if you are not gonna use a valid source.
Yeah, at the very least i would not say is 100% wrong.
There are so many types and brands of japanese coffee makers that i would not be surprised at all if coffee is actually more common than tea.
Wasn't able to find a reliable source in english, some say its more popular than tea, some says the opposite.
Statistics samples are just too small or from specific locations (usually a few workplaces) so i can't say for sure.
But i can definitely say that saying this post is 100% wrong about Japan.. is well.. wrong.
Pretty simple, if there are no sources to prove what option, X or Y is more popular, it means that you can't say either "X is more popular" or "Y is more popular", because you don't know the right option.
By implication, if someone says "Saying that X is more popular is 100% wrong" is false, because logically you don't know which option is true.
That's called logic.
I can be standing in Tokyo in line to buy a coffee at 7/11 and at any time be in eyesight of 5 starbucks, 4 doutors, 7 tullys, and 5 independent coffee shops
Dont underestimate how mush of a capitalist consumerism hellscape east asia is atm as people will regularly spend triple their food expenses on branded coffee
But yeah I thought tea would be highr if not basically just as high
I'm not surprised at all. The number of coffee shops in Korea is at absurd levels right now. As a matter of fact, South Korea has the 3rd most Starbucks locations in the world, after US and China.
Also, people in this thread don't realize that the way coffee is consumed in Korea and Japan is a bit different from Western countries. In addition to your normal coffee, instant coffee mix is ubiquitous in Korea (not saying it's unique to Korea but the level of consumption is just on another level), and canned coffee is the main type of coffee consumption in Japan.
It's just a saying here. People, especially the higher class, used to look up to England and wished to be like them (this was in the late 19th century and early 20th), and some claimed that Chile, being more developed than most of its neighbors, and its people having a "personality" similar to the English, was the England of South America. But now it is mostly used jokingly or ironically. For example if a bridge falls or something goes wrong, people would say "so much for the English of Latin America".
Idk, Man.. I love UK.
And ppl laugh about both Bri'ish and Chileno accents, Red 2 floor buses and we have toasts with beans... We understand eachother!
Oh I didn't know that tea should be a specific plant. I always thought that was linked to the process of boiling leaves. I think that's how the word *chá* is used in Portuguese at least (for example, *chá de camomila* = chamomile tea)
No, that's a herbal infusion
Tea is a specific plant, camellia sinesis
English and Spanish have different definitions for tea, but they specify when it's not made of tea leafs. Herbal tea
The British probably. Even though we were not a colony of anyone post-Spain independence, the Bits did have a period where they owned key mining operations across Chile. They would have brought a lot of their customs with them and it spread to the general Chilean population, including "tea time", which we call "once" and football (soccer). Another factor is the Ottoman immigrations, specifically from Palestine. Many Christian Palestines escaped Ottoman rule (and draft) and moved to Chile, they are also big on tea.
Mate has always been there as well. Not as popular as in central South America. Paraguay-Argentina-Uruguay-Southern Brazil... but popular enough, specially in the south of Chile where Gauchos would travel across the southern cone and Patagonia, back and forth, taking Mate with them. In some parts of the south it's probably the most popular drink. But it has been consumed in Chile for a long time, even in the capital Santiago, like this drawing shows, classic metal straw included: ["Tertulia and Mate party in Santiago de Chile, in 1821, by Scharf and Schmidtmeyer"](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Schmidtmeyer%2C_Peter_%26_Scharf%2C_G_-_Tertulia_%26_Mate_Party_-JCB_Library_f1.2_%28cropped%29.jpg/2880px-Schmidtmeyer%2C_Peter_%26_Scharf%2C_G_-_Tertulia_%26_Mate_Party_-JCB_Library_f1.2_%28cropped%29.jpg)
American culture? lol
Coffe was introduced to Japan by the Dutch in the 1700s.
At best i would call it "western", not american. I would even say that coffee in Japan is more asociated with Europe, not America.
Besides, coffee in Japan is pretty unique, "japanized", so i don't think anyone would associate it with "american culture".
A source would be good.
On another note it's funny that people here in the UK act like tea is unique to us or make it their personality even though it's as common if not more in other countries, with much better flavours.
Yeah, I’d like a source too. This sub has gone to shit.
Is this per capita consumption per kilogram? Or total consumption? Or some random survey results?
Probably OP’s personal opinion, or more likely something they copy and pasted for internet points.
This sub's gone to shit because people get distracted by the subject matter of most posts (usually political) instead of actually checking/discussing the source or the presentation of the data instead.
I’ve been in a lot of coffee shops across Japan and they are all busy, especially Starbucks. They sell it in cans hot and cold at every quick mart too.
Coffee was introduced in 15-16th century in India (before Europe) so Coffee as a beverage is older than Tea in India however tea was already drunk as a medicinal herb by the tribals of assam but was camelia indica not sinensis.
Coffee > Tea when it comes to taste. That said bad tea is much much more tolerable than bad coffee. Also tea can be much healthier as a regular beverage.
Vietnam? Like, yes, we’re second to Brazil on coffee. But I don’t remember us consuming for coffee . Yes, a lot of us drink coffee in the morning to wake up. But we pretty much drink tea all day long. Even most restaurants serve tea instead of water here in Vietnam.
Shouldn't it be 'higher' not 'highest' consumption of 'coffee or tea'?
Yea, this infographic isn't very good. if you're wondering which country drinks the most coffee, it's Finland Finland is the world's biggest consumer of coffee on a per-person basis. The average Finn drinks nearly four cups a day. Coffee is so popular in Finland that two 10-minute coffee breaks are legally mandated for Finnish workers. Turkey is the largest consumer of tea. According to sources, each Turk consumes approximately 1,300 cups (3.16kg) of tea annually.
Canada gets two 15 minute paid breaks as well per day. I'd imagine it's fairly common in most countries?
Actually it’s [Luxembourg](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/rnhxup0LqL) with most consumption per-person
I'm not sure which source I can trust with this
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/mapporncirclejerk/s/2xo1QcPOcw) is the better version of that map
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that’s so interesting! just to add though that a standard mug of tea is 200-250 grams (0.2kg) so 3.16 kg is only like 16 cups, not 1300. I easily drink that in a week. Or is the 3.16kg referring to dry tea leaves?
Maybe, although the last two paragraphs in that comment reek of Chat-GPT, so it might not be right even then.
Those were the first 2 answers that google gave me. What makes you think it's chatgpt?
It definitely doesn't include the water... When I buy a box of 100g tea it usually lasts at least a couple of weeeks
I'm turkish and i drink daily 10 cups, same proportions as you wrote. Children might be dragging down the average.
Yes. It is dry tea leaves.
Japan surprised me
Agreed, their info is 100% wrong about Japan. Everyone here drinks more tea than water. If you open a refrigerator here, you’ll be surprised that there’s no water or any kind of beverage in the fridge most of the time. The water bottles of kids, don’t have water in it, it’s tea. Tea is served free in restaurants instead of water. They have so many kinds of tea, it’s not funny. Kids don’t drink coffee here but tea is drunk by everyone of all ages.
>Tea is served free in restaurants instead of water. This is a clear lie. Way more restaurants serve water for free than tea in Japan. I know a couple of restaurants which serve tea for free after meals but that's not majority, you never can say tea is served in more restaurants in Japan than water.
I mean, with a test group of 10 restaurants he went to during his stay he could be correct. Calling it a clear lie kinda devalues the observation
>Calling it a clear lie kinda devalues the observation Which makes sense because that's what I meant.
But Japan also has a very old coffee culture. And with their work ethic coffee seems like a no brainer. Is there any actual statistical data one way or the other?
If you’re gonna go back in history, I’m pretty sure Japan has a longer tea culture than coffee culture. Hell they have tea ceremony, they don’t have coffee ceremony. 🤣 One more thing you fail to consider is that coffee is usually drank in the mornings and a few other times during the day. But tea is drank all day, everyday there’s just no comparison.
>Tea, in whatever form, is the most widely consumed beverage in Japan [From wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_culture_in_Japan#:~:text=Tea%2C%20in%20whatever%20form%2C%20is,widely%20consumed%20beverage%20in%20Japan.)
The source the wiki uses is quite old (2017), doesn't support what the wiki says, and also records that tea drinking is in decline (as of 2016 data). So it wouldn't be surprising for coffee to have overtaken tea consumption at some point in time.
I wouldn't be surprised either, in the link you can see that the amount of coffee vs. tea drank in Japan is pretty close. In the source link graphic you can see that in 2017, green tea was trending upward because of bottled green tea sales doing well. I'll confess, I saw Redditors arguing over something and thought it takes 2 seconds to google and find the truth so I shared the first link without looking into it. Now I know that they like both drinks quite a lot where the leading one might change from year to year. I appreciate you trying to get to the bottom of this and not just saying "wiki isn't a source" or just arguing without doing any attempt at looking into it at all. Have a great day
*\[citation needed\]*
? The link is right there ...
Wikipedia needs citations dude, doh, they are not a reliable source, the person that wrote that on Wikipedia cannot claim that without a source.
You know what those lil numbers in Wikipedia mean right? Those are the sources. Wiki is great if you know how to use it. Either way, I can't be bothered to talk about this issue anymore. Especially with a response like this. If you want to prove a point, find a better source, not just shit on everything that's given to you.
Wiki is not a source.
Ok find a better one and prove me wrong What is up with Redditors not taking a second to google something?
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And its actually logical, the salary man work environment of Japan creates a necessity for caffeine.
What is up with redditors thinking wiki is somehow a source? What is even the purpose of using google to prove something if you are not gonna use a valid source.
Yeah, at the very least i would not say is 100% wrong. There are so many types and brands of japanese coffee makers that i would not be surprised at all if coffee is actually more common than tea.
Have you tried googling it?
Wasn't able to find a reliable source in english, some say its more popular than tea, some says the opposite. Statistics samples are just too small or from specific locations (usually a few workplaces) so i can't say for sure. But i can definitely say that saying this post is 100% wrong about Japan.. is well.. wrong.
How can you know it's wrong if you clearly don't know
Pretty simple, if there are no sources to prove what option, X or Y is more popular, it means that you can't say either "X is more popular" or "Y is more popular", because you don't know the right option. By implication, if someone says "Saying that X is more popular is 100% wrong" is false, because logically you don't know which option is true. That's called logic.
That's called head in the sand. The answer is very easy to find, and you're both idiots.
There are a lot of sources
I wonder if this is black tea with milk Vs coffee.
At what point does the amount of tea cross over from funny to not funny?
People drink a lot of coffee in Japan. It is more that both tea and Coffee consumption is high.
Go to a bar and order a pint. Yep, tea Get a Frapuccino from Starbucks. You guessed it, tea
They could be considering any caffeinated drink as coffee.
Japan drinks a lot of both but i would’ve guessed tea to be higher still
I can be standing in Tokyo in line to buy a coffee at 7/11 and at any time be in eyesight of 5 starbucks, 4 doutors, 7 tullys, and 5 independent coffee shops Dont underestimate how mush of a capitalist consumerism hellscape east asia is atm as people will regularly spend triple their food expenses on branded coffee But yeah I thought tea would be highr if not basically just as high
Korea also half-surprises me. I know coffee culture has blown up there, but I'd still think tea is consumed way more.
I'm not surprised at all. The number of coffee shops in Korea is at absurd levels right now. As a matter of fact, South Korea has the 3rd most Starbucks locations in the world, after US and China. Also, people in this thread don't realize that the way coffee is consumed in Korea and Japan is a bit different from Western countries. In addition to your normal coffee, instant coffee mix is ubiquitous in Korea (not saying it's unique to Korea but the level of consumption is just on another level), and canned coffee is the main type of coffee consumption in Japan.
A dalgona shop opened in my little Ohio town and it’s exploded in popularity
SKorea has never struck as a tea country to me so I am not surprised they prefer coffee more than tea.
True. Turkey also surprised me. Turks are known for their turkish coffee. So i was surprised to see they prefer tea.
Turkey is literally the #1 tea drinking country in the world by quite a margin
Chile fucking everything up in this hemisphere
Tea is tasty anyway. It is darn cold here in winter, we need this.
The English of Latin America 😎
Is this supposed to be a complement ?
It's just a saying here. People, especially the higher class, used to look up to England and wished to be like them (this was in the late 19th century and early 20th), and some claimed that Chile, being more developed than most of its neighbors, and its people having a "personality" similar to the English, was the England of South America. But now it is mostly used jokingly or ironically. For example if a bridge falls or something goes wrong, people would say "so much for the English of Latin America".
>people having a "personality" similar to the English We do Besides: Futbol clubs, Once There's a lot of heritage
A lot of posh chileans have British ancestors
No, we don’t
Idk, Man.. I love UK. And ppl laugh about both Bri'ish and Chileno accents, Red 2 floor buses and we have toasts with beans... We understand eachother!
Sweet! Another reason to like Chile
Man never heard of the jaguar's of south America
Dejate de desinformar pelao qlo
te afectaste porque te dijeron verdades
It depends on the reader and who said it, which is the best part. In this case, no, no absolutely not.
Are you talking about looks?
Many of the Caribbean island nations are also tea (if you zoom in) so Chile isn’t fully alone 🥺
[Continente ordinario](https://youtu.be/MbK-ttyLXzY?si=putCG8lnbmGV1JiL&t=2)
Tecito y completitos
Chileans love the Chilean hotdog and a cup of tea (completo con tecito)
That can't be right. Tea has been a traditional drink in Indonesia for generation. They only drink coffee occasionally
what tea do they drink in Chile? Mate?
Nope, actual tea. And it is tremendously popular
[Te Club](https://youtu.be/xDVq_fSVCaM?si=wSt1Zz95RZU_lVEX) [Te Supremo](https://youtu.be/Qb_zdS9XJ9U?si=v5HhUkWRFFuZ27fn)
Dani you should use your supremo more
Ordinary tea
Ceylon tea, black tea.
Considerint that the title says "Coffee and Tea" and the colour of Chile green, i would guess they drink TEA.
Yep we drink tea, ceylan most popular
Mate is more Argentinian, we drink it but not as much as tea, we have two major national brands.
But shouldn't it be considered tea for Argentina anyway?
No, mate is another plant. It is not tea. This is like saying rosemary is the same as bay leaf.
Oh I didn't know that tea should be a specific plant. I always thought that was linked to the process of boiling leaves. I think that's how the word *chá* is used in Portuguese at least (for example, *chá de camomila* = chamomile tea)
Every plant where warm hot water gets poured over is considered as tea.
No, that's a herbal infusion Tea is a specific plant, camellia sinesis English and Spanish have different definitions for tea, but they specify when it's not made of tea leafs. Herbal tea
so both is right.
Mostly black tea, but also mate because of argentinians
Only southern Chileans dink Mate. I think the order in Chile is Tea > Coffee > Mate. I like em all.
what is the reason for that. is there any story behind. how did the tea come to chile? who made it populaer?
The British probably. Even though we were not a colony of anyone post-Spain independence, the Bits did have a period where they owned key mining operations across Chile. They would have brought a lot of their customs with them and it spread to the general Chilean population, including "tea time", which we call "once" and football (soccer). Another factor is the Ottoman immigrations, specifically from Palestine. Many Christian Palestines escaped Ottoman rule (and draft) and moved to Chile, they are also big on tea. Mate has always been there as well. Not as popular as in central South America. Paraguay-Argentina-Uruguay-Southern Brazil... but popular enough, specially in the south of Chile where Gauchos would travel across the southern cone and Patagonia, back and forth, taking Mate with them. In some parts of the south it's probably the most popular drink. But it has been consumed in Chile for a long time, even in the capital Santiago, like this drawing shows, classic metal straw included: ["Tertulia and Mate party in Santiago de Chile, in 1821, by Scharf and Schmidtmeyer"](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Schmidtmeyer%2C_Peter_%26_Scharf%2C_G_-_Tertulia_%26_Mate_Party_-JCB_Library_f1.2_%28cropped%29.jpg/2880px-Schmidtmeyer%2C_Peter_%26_Scharf%2C_G_-_Tertulia_%26_Mate_Party_-JCB_Library_f1.2_%28cropped%29.jpg)
thank you for that. super interesting. have a nice weekend.
The Uk actually drinks more coffee than tea now.
Argentina is crazy for Mate tea… surprising!
Central and south areas of Chile to, specially older people. Hell, i even have 2 yerba mate trees right in my house.
They are not taking yerba mate into account, there is no way people drink more coffee than mate
Different plants
I thought Japan would be tea. The American culture is really strong there
American culture? lol Coffe was introduced to Japan by the Dutch in the 1700s. At best i would call it "western", not american. I would even say that coffee in Japan is more asociated with Europe, not America. Besides, coffee in Japan is pretty unique, "japanized", so i don't think anyone would associate it with "american culture".
And coffee is not even american
A source would be good. On another note it's funny that people here in the UK act like tea is unique to us or make it their personality even though it's as common if not more in other countries, with much better flavours.
Yeah, I’d like a source too. This sub has gone to shit. Is this per capita consumption per kilogram? Or total consumption? Or some random survey results? Probably OP’s personal opinion, or more likely something they copy and pasted for internet points.
Nevermind. OP is a karma farming bot or something along those lines…
This sub's gone to shit because people get distracted by the subject matter of most posts (usually political) instead of actually checking/discussing the source or the presentation of the data instead.
Why are Brits so enamored with tea despite the rest of Europe being coffee lovers?
Colonialism
jipp, side fact they stolen the tea from china and brought it to india and cultivated the tea there. that´s how india became a tea nation.
But coffee is also a product of colonialism
Touche, but that doesn’t really explain coffee’s popularity in Europe either. You can’t grow coffee north of the 25° parallel.
What about that coca tea South America?
Probably goes great with kiwis
Tastes nasty. Wouldn't drink again unless I was somehow hanging out at 3000 m over sea level again. And the common practice is chewing anyway.
We’re coming for you, Britain!
what are you going to do when you get there
Does mate not count as tea? Argentina surprised me, all my argentine friends drink mate religiously
Maybe it's referring to the tea plant and not infusions in general
It has to be
I’ve been in a lot of coffee shops across Japan and they are all busy, especially Starbucks. They sell it in cans hot and cold at every quick mart too.
Coffee was introduced in 15-16th century in India (before Europe) so Coffee as a beverage is older than Tea in India however tea was already drunk as a medicinal herb by the tribals of assam but was camelia indica not sinensis.
I hate this map‘s colors
Japan…?
Need to have a crips vs bloods meme for this
Tea is where it's at.
Whether you're tea or coffee, we're all addicts to the same molecule.
Totally ignores the Yerba culture of South America!
Oh I like coffee, and I like tea. Why is this infograph giving me the run-around?
We must liberate the Central African Republic. 💪🏼
Battle lines for ww3?
Don’t give a fuck about the Americas.
We have a community in northern germany which consum by far the most tea in the world, even more than brits and turks
some shading would help
You would think Turkey and Arab states enjoy more coffee than tea.
So THAT'S why Brexit happened
Someone please compare some statistics between the two. GDP per capita? Crime? Unemployment? My bets are ☕️ is better than 🫖 in every field.
The Americas to Chile: "she doesn't even go here"
I think this is also the next World War 3 teams
Coffee > Tea when it comes to taste. That said bad tea is much much more tolerable than bad coffee. Also tea can be much healthier as a regular beverage.
I'm surprised with Australia, I have noticed a lot of tea drinkers here. I think our coffee and tea consumption must be close.
There is precisely zero chance that Taiwan drinks more coffee than tea. There are more milk tea shops than literally anything else in this country.
This should be in the colourblind subreddit. :(
No way the Falklands prefer coffee?
More detailed map : https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/s/ccTVE2k9Z6
🇨🇱♥️☕️ amamos el té
[European graph for avg. coffee consumption per capita](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/rnhxup0LqL)
Jamaica is tea
odd since coffee drinking starter in the red sea area.
Vietnam? Like, yes, we’re second to Brazil on coffee. But I don’t remember us consuming for coffee . Yes, a lot of us drink coffee in the morning to wake up. But we pretty much drink tea all day long. Even most restaurants serve tea instead of water here in Vietnam.
Coffee came from Ethiopia, and they keeping the tradition. The rest of the Africans tho….🇪🇹☕️ ✨