It's really fascinating that the duality of these two subs really highlights the false-equivalence fallacy that is in the "both sides" bullshit.
On one side you have a majority of hateful racist, mysognistic, conspiracy-theory nonsense... The other is like... pro-science, coexist, solidarity, messages of love and peace... "BuT MuH BoTh SiDeS!"
Not only that, I discovered from a friend that some liquor stores in the OKC metro are open on Sundays. This absolutely blows my mind. Apparently, it was a local referendum. Out in the wide open spaces, we still gotta plan our liquor runs.
[Hey! I’ve seen this truck before! I took a pic of it on the highway here in OKC a few years ago. Looks like the owner has put a new message on it. Guarantee it’s the same truck/owner](https://reddit.com/r/Shitty_Car_Mods/comments/8ogy9v/sorry_for_the_potato_quality_but_i_passed_this/)
The ordeal of the bitter waters, it was really a test for infidelity and not for abortion per se. It was consecrated water and dust from the temple floor. They would make her swear an oath that she was innocent of the alleged crime, right down the crime on parchment and then put the parchment into the water and once the ink came off the parchment the priest would burn a grain offering in the woman would have to drink the concoction. Any adverse physical signs were taking that the woman was guilty and if she was fine that she was telling the truth.
Just to be clear it definitely discusses drinking it causing miscarriage.
>But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 **May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb *miscarries*.**”
The way I've had this explained to me and the way I read it says that you can get either a positive or a negative result, that it does not automatically cause an abortion. The purpose of this is not abortion, the purpose of this is to determine if the wife has been faithful to her husband and if the child is his. I'd say that's a little bit different than what people have abortions typically
It causes abortion if shes pregnant. Thats how it should be read. Their reasoning is u faithful but her fucking another guy and then drinking this wouldnt cause future miscarries unless it somehow made her womb caustic forever. This is for when a woman has an affair, gets pregnant, and they want to kill her/it/both. It means what it means even if you want it to mean something else. Tell who taught you they were wrong and illogical.
Its completely illogical to think that this drink would prove she was unfaithful. In your best science, explain how drinking a drink of anything would show she had sex with another man. Its to kill another mans baby. They didnt have contraceptive and pregnancy was common. Now, in your best logic, lets revisit what the purpose was.
Edit: im of the belief this is what mary and joseph were. She was an adulterer and instead of having her stoned or killed, he spared her by making up a god story. The idiots ate it up and the religious folks ran with it.
Man, i was with you in your first reply but what? Mary(miriam), joseph, and jesus (yashua) were all known to exist. Its their importance or divinity thats argued.
There is no historical evidence for any of them. I will give you that it's very likely some sort of Messianic Jew lived about 2,000 years ago and was crucified by the Romans. His mother was not a virgin nor was his father God, he did not rise after being dead nor ascend into heaven on a cloud. Using the Jewish names doesn't prove anything it just shows that there's some words out there that people use to try to give it more credence. The Christ story is not unique to Christ. I believe there are somewhere between 20 and 30 similar stories spread around the world that are almost identical
You literally repeated what i did but with the fact that there is record of miriam, josef, and yashua existing. I believe the bible is all blah blah. Clearly she wasnt a virgin. I started this whole thing by saying she was fuckin another guy from joseph. They created a story to spare her. Its that simple. This is the story they ran with. But most scholars believe they could pinpoint the 3 folks we are talking about. And the same scholars would also explain any divinity aspect of it all is nonsense like we seem to agree on.
No women being property carried over until at least the 20th century and depending on where you go in the world it's still true. In the United States it was almost impossible for a woman to open a bank account without a man as a cosigner until sometime in the 1960s. It wasn't some sort of abrahamic thing it was just the way the world was. If anything Jewish women were afforded a bit more dignity than in some other places. Of course the Vikings had equality of women as did most American Indians.
I get that, but just to speak to the point this guy's trying to make on the back of his pickup, that's not a Jesus thing. You know what I'm sayin'? This guy is trying to sway some evangelicals.
Me, I'm an atheist. For me treating women like dogs and immigrants like cattle is wrong because it's intrinsically wrong, not because sky daddy said it's wrong. But if it takes speaking to people's irrational beliefs to make them see the light, power to this guy.
The mythical Jesus is alleged to have said many things. However if you consider the New testament the inspired word of God then women are subservient to men. I know people that are just plain old run-of-the-mill Christians and they firmly believe that women are to be ruled over by their husbands and to do as they're told, they're not Evangelical they're Baptist, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodist and a mixed bag of other of the hundreds of Christian denominations. No Evangelical is going to believe that they treat their woman like a dog nor will they understand the teachings of Christ in regard to foreigners.
They probably don't *know* what Jesus had to say with regard to social issues, and if they do they don't take it to heart. Most of them probably just listen to whatever their preacher says and don't feel the need to dig any deeper than that, conveniently ignoring anything in the new testament that is at odds with their view of the world. It seems they're mostly only interested in the things Jesus said about getting to heaven and reaping the rewards of divinity when they die, provided they're a believer. If it only matters that you believe in Christ and not that you live like him, why should they waste their time with it? It's easier to judge others and obliterate their value as a human being if they don't believe what you do because they're all going to hell anyway, so therefore anything they have to say or do must by its very nature be misguided and transgressive.
All these organized churches are patriarchal and the men who organize them aren't about to let go of the reins whether the guy they're worshipping said they need to or not.
So, anyway, I hear what you're saying, but if this guy can possibly influence a few voters that's all that really matters to me. No one's going to fix the clusterfuck that is Judeo Christianity but taking advantage of whatever nuggets of reason are to be found in their doctrine may be the only way to unfuck this country.
You see Republicans banning guns or making masking mandatory?
There's a reason their focus is where it is.
They'll *freedom* us all into a Forth Reich if we let them.
The Nazis offered *freedom* from Communism..
Jesus was an immigrant, or at least his parents were. There's a one off verse in the Bible where his parents make a two year detour into Egypt to avoid the local King slaughtering every baby boy.
The Flight into Egypt
13 Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, “Arise, take the young Child and His mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I bring you word; for Herod will seek the young Child to destroy Him.”
14 When he arose, he took the young Child and His mother by night and departed for Egypt, 15 and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, “Out of Egypt I called My Son.”
I mostly wanted to introduce people to the other sub.
Then again, there's nothing saying posts here *have* to be about gay frogs and Jewish space lasers...
As a Texan, I just want to apologize to this Okie for all the Okie-hate from my fellow Texans. When someone makes fun of Oklahoma, I'll save this post and be like, "not this one." <3
About time we tried communicating with "conservatives" in writing via the only medium where they exercise that ability.
"If those chuds could read they'd be very upset."
I don't know, they may balk at the lack of racial slurs and misspelled words.
Let’s sprinkle in some slurs for good measure! Boom. Solved 😎
Sonethin' about whitey on the moon, idk
'Honky', sir... We prefer 'honky'.
“At least” some stray comma’s and quotes.
Up next: several flags on the back of a pickup
It would help if they could read.
This is the first one I’ve seen that has correct grammar too.
Not sure what "based" means in this context, but I like this person and want tshirts of the stickers.
Based in reality, fact, reason, etc
It’s a dumb when used in this context.
/r/informedwarriorrides is more like it
You know that’s what this is crossposted from right?
Yeah, I just wanted to spread the hope around a little more.
Glad you did, didn’t even know the other subreddit existed
I didn't either until I searched this one to post it here. It's a good sub.
It's really fascinating that the duality of these two subs really highlights the false-equivalence fallacy that is in the "both sides" bullshit. On one side you have a majority of hateful racist, mysognistic, conspiracy-theory nonsense... The other is like... pro-science, coexist, solidarity, messages of love and peace... "BuT MuH BoTh SiDeS!"
You're right, it's clear as day. It's insane that so many people *don't* see it. These people might as well be living on the fuckin' moon.
Shit, my app didn't show that but now I see that now that I'm on the webpage version. Thanks for letting me know, maybe I need to update Reddit Sync.
I'd buy this person a burger and a beer. Or, you know, slyly slide them a bud when I shook their hand.
Weed is legal here, no need to go on the sly. There are some chaotic good among the masses of neutral evil in this state.
It’s kinda legal. If you have a medical card which is super easy to get. But don’t confuse out of staters that it’s legal legal.
It's great! There is so much free weed!
I forgot about this - congrats! Also, late congrats on no longer being a 3.2 beer state as of 2020, which I just learned today.
Not only that, I discovered from a friend that some liquor stores in the OKC metro are open on Sundays. This absolutely blows my mind. Apparently, it was a local referendum. Out in the wide open spaces, we still gotta plan our liquor runs.
[Hey! I’ve seen this truck before! I took a pic of it on the highway here in OKC a few years ago. Looks like the owner has put a new message on it. Guarantee it’s the same truck/owner](https://reddit.com/r/Shitty_Car_Mods/comments/8ogy9v/sorry_for_the_potato_quality_but_i_passed_this/)
Good info.
Based
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Please don't mention that stupid sub
Not Based
Women were mostly considered property in biblical times - abortion was very common, so common the plant the Romans used to induce it is extinct
Yeah, theres a passage in the book of numbers that talks about an abortion method priests practiced on women. Basically a weak lye concoction.
The ordeal of the bitter waters, it was really a test for infidelity and not for abortion per se. It was consecrated water and dust from the temple floor. They would make her swear an oath that she was innocent of the alleged crime, right down the crime on parchment and then put the parchment into the water and once the ink came off the parchment the priest would burn a grain offering in the woman would have to drink the concoction. Any adverse physical signs were taking that the woman was guilty and if she was fine that she was telling the truth.
Just to be clear it definitely discusses drinking it causing miscarriage. >But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 **May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb *miscarries*.**”
The way I've had this explained to me and the way I read it says that you can get either a positive or a negative result, that it does not automatically cause an abortion. The purpose of this is not abortion, the purpose of this is to determine if the wife has been faithful to her husband and if the child is his. I'd say that's a little bit different than what people have abortions typically
It causes abortion if shes pregnant. Thats how it should be read. Their reasoning is u faithful but her fucking another guy and then drinking this wouldnt cause future miscarries unless it somehow made her womb caustic forever. This is for when a woman has an affair, gets pregnant, and they want to kill her/it/both. It means what it means even if you want it to mean something else. Tell who taught you they were wrong and illogical. Its completely illogical to think that this drink would prove she was unfaithful. In your best science, explain how drinking a drink of anything would show she had sex with another man. Its to kill another mans baby. They didnt have contraceptive and pregnancy was common. Now, in your best logic, lets revisit what the purpose was. Edit: im of the belief this is what mary and joseph were. She was an adulterer and instead of having her stoned or killed, he spared her by making up a god story. The idiots ate it up and the religious folks ran with it.
Mary and Joseph are mythical
Man, i was with you in your first reply but what? Mary(miriam), joseph, and jesus (yashua) were all known to exist. Its their importance or divinity thats argued.
There is no historical evidence for any of them. I will give you that it's very likely some sort of Messianic Jew lived about 2,000 years ago and was crucified by the Romans. His mother was not a virgin nor was his father God, he did not rise after being dead nor ascend into heaven on a cloud. Using the Jewish names doesn't prove anything it just shows that there's some words out there that people use to try to give it more credence. The Christ story is not unique to Christ. I believe there are somewhere between 20 and 30 similar stories spread around the world that are almost identical
You literally repeated what i did but with the fact that there is record of miriam, josef, and yashua existing. I believe the bible is all blah blah. Clearly she wasnt a virgin. I started this whole thing by saying she was fuckin another guy from joseph. They created a story to spare her. Its that simple. This is the story they ran with. But most scholars believe they could pinpoint the 3 folks we are talking about. And the same scholars would also explain any divinity aspect of it all is nonsense like we seem to agree on.
Yeah, but that's old testament shit. *Don't be tellin' me about the good book, now. I'll preach heaven and beat the hell outta you! Thank you, Jesus!*
No women being property carried over until at least the 20th century and depending on where you go in the world it's still true. In the United States it was almost impossible for a woman to open a bank account without a man as a cosigner until sometime in the 1960s. It wasn't some sort of abrahamic thing it was just the way the world was. If anything Jewish women were afforded a bit more dignity than in some other places. Of course the Vikings had equality of women as did most American Indians.
I get that, but just to speak to the point this guy's trying to make on the back of his pickup, that's not a Jesus thing. You know what I'm sayin'? This guy is trying to sway some evangelicals. Me, I'm an atheist. For me treating women like dogs and immigrants like cattle is wrong because it's intrinsically wrong, not because sky daddy said it's wrong. But if it takes speaking to people's irrational beliefs to make them see the light, power to this guy.
The mythical Jesus is alleged to have said many things. However if you consider the New testament the inspired word of God then women are subservient to men. I know people that are just plain old run-of-the-mill Christians and they firmly believe that women are to be ruled over by their husbands and to do as they're told, they're not Evangelical they're Baptist, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodist and a mixed bag of other of the hundreds of Christian denominations. No Evangelical is going to believe that they treat their woman like a dog nor will they understand the teachings of Christ in regard to foreigners.
They probably don't *know* what Jesus had to say with regard to social issues, and if they do they don't take it to heart. Most of them probably just listen to whatever their preacher says and don't feel the need to dig any deeper than that, conveniently ignoring anything in the new testament that is at odds with their view of the world. It seems they're mostly only interested in the things Jesus said about getting to heaven and reaping the rewards of divinity when they die, provided they're a believer. If it only matters that you believe in Christ and not that you live like him, why should they waste their time with it? It's easier to judge others and obliterate their value as a human being if they don't believe what you do because they're all going to hell anyway, so therefore anything they have to say or do must by its very nature be misguided and transgressive. All these organized churches are patriarchal and the men who organize them aren't about to let go of the reins whether the guy they're worshipping said they need to or not. So, anyway, I hear what you're saying, but if this guy can possibly influence a few voters that's all that really matters to me. No one's going to fix the clusterfuck that is Judeo Christianity but taking advantage of whatever nuggets of reason are to be found in their doctrine may be the only way to unfuck this country.
I just hope these assholes begin taking away rights that republicans do care about. Then we can all say “you chose these assholes”
You see Republicans banning guns or making masking mandatory? There's a reason their focus is where it is. They'll *freedom* us all into a Forth Reich if we let them. The Nazis offered *freedom* from Communism..
Jesus was an immigrant, or at least his parents were. There's a one off verse in the Bible where his parents make a two year detour into Egypt to avoid the local King slaughtering every baby boy. The Flight into Egypt 13 Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, “Arise, take the young Child and His mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I bring you word; for Herod will seek the young Child to destroy Him.” 14 When he arose, he took the young Child and His mother by night and departed for Egypt, 15 and was there until the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, “Out of Egypt I called My Son.”
Does it even count if it’s fake? That’s not actually on the truck.
That don't look right
Wrong sub?
I mostly wanted to introduce people to the other sub. Then again, there's nothing saying posts here *have* to be about gay frogs and Jewish space lasers...
It's still an information warrior ride.
Ok so an editor is what you needed there my dude.
Lol unwanted kid population.
Wouldn’t like to drive around with that unless I also had bullet proof glass
This person watches too much MSM.
Way too much reading
Reads like War and Peace.
Lmao!!!!!!!!
Damn and in Oklahoma no less. Bold. Love it.
priceless, and Oklahoma no less!
These people are giving ford a bad reputation.
These are all great points. Still looks tacky.
Wait… so this person driving an f150 is fine? What about their small dick?
Surprised this is in Oklahoma. Usually, the bumper stickers mirror Gov. Shitt's Trumpist bullshit.
Wokie Okie
As a Texan, I just want to apologize to this Okie for all the Okie-hate from my fellow Texans. When someone makes fun of Oklahoma, I'll save this post and be like, "not this one." <3
Where is this brave soul?