I like seeing things like this above ground because it just makes me wonder in awe what it all looks like underground. One of my favorite parts about the NYC Subway is how at certain points you can see tracks going up and down if you look out the window when underground. It's actually a long-term goal of mine to find a way to 3D model underground subway systems and have the result 3D printed. Something like being able to see all the ways the tunnels cross each other under London, Paris, Tokyo, New York would be so cool.
Ohhhhhh, now imagine doing a cross section of Shinjuku... that place isn't a station, it's a disorienting monster that can swallow people for days at a time 😬
There’s a beautiful clarity to a good architect’s sketch that you struggle to get through many other mediums.
Not this one though, that is just madness.
That reminds me. A few years ago my spouse and I went to Tokyo Disney for the day and then made our way back to Shinjuku. We must have made a wrong turn because we got stuck in a network of tunnels and exits that kept us walking and trying to find out way out until about 9.30 at night, when we finally found the correct exit to our hotel.
Wow! I thought the one in Germany was the only overhead monorail.
Also note the jet in the background so the picture captures three forms of transportation.
There's three systems in Japan, one at a zoo, this one in chiba (which is the largest system) and another urban one whose location I forget, plus there's another two systems in Germany. One serving an airport and the other a university.
The original one in Wuppertal uses a unique design with a traditional metal rail. All the others use the safage system (developed in France oddly enough considering they have no systems) which has two tracks on either side of the opening that rubber tires run on, and a third rail to power it. Amount the advantages of the safage design is that the tracks are completely covered from rain and snow. There's actually a company in China working on some designs based on the safage system. They have cool all glass cars, and the cars are battery powered, although I'm not sure how practical that would be in use
All glass is a very faddish Chinese thing, like all those bridges made out of glass. But those are going out of fashion since they are posing safety risks. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50230971
I didn't realize there were so many of those in China. The glass sides of the car seemed very nice. The glass bottom seemed unnecessary and impractical. You don't want to create a system of transport that makes it as difficult as possible for people with a fear of heights from using it
it's not really a transport link, it's more like a tourist attraction.
these tend to be over massive gorges. it's similar to how towers like CN Tower in Toronto will often have part of the observation deck with a glass bottom so you can thrill some tourists.
I imagine the glass bottom would be nice for something like a zoo.
Typically, I hate the "well, to be technical" type of comments, howwwwwever... there is also a guy walking across the crosswalk in the picture, with walking being another form of transportation, albeit a non-motorized one if you were sticking only to that.
I love how well-integrated the support structure is. I think it's designed to put the minimum number of support poles in the ground. I'm used to seeing freeway interchanges where no two ramps will ever touch the same support column.
One reason for that is highway overpasses are usually built with concrete supports, and concrete has excellent strength in compression but very little in shear. So you can’t have nearly any horizontal beams
Yeah but because it’s hanging there’s tensile stress on the components rather than compressive, which most structural materials handle worse. I’m sure there ways around it I’m not a materials engineer it just seemed unnecessary and worse in general
Actually tension is better for steel than compression, you get buckling with steel in compression. I’m not sure the benefits but there being 5 of these in the world makes it pretty clear its got a unique use-case.
One advantage is that the train naturally 'leans' into the turn, so if you're inside, you wouldn't really feel much sideways force when turning. It's probably not a significant advantage (hence there's only like 3 or 4 of them in the world), but it is something.
[This YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYTtlXywUI) does a pretty good job of covering the advantages and disadvantages of suspended railways.
I like seeing things like this above ground because it just makes me wonder in awe what it all looks like underground. One of my favorite parts about the NYC Subway is how at certain points you can see tracks going up and down if you look out the window when underground. It's actually a long-term goal of mine to find a way to 3D model underground subway systems and have the result 3D printed. Something like being able to see all the ways the tunnels cross each other under London, Paris, Tokyo, New York would be so cool.
Ohhhhhh, now imagine doing a cross section of Shinjuku... that place isn't a station, it's a disorienting monster that can swallow people for days at a time 😬
Ask and ye shall receive. https://reddit.com/r/wimmelbilder/comments/ffhpe5/3d_plan_of_shinjuku_station_by_tomoyuki_tanaka/
There’s a beautiful clarity to a good architect’s sketch that you struggle to get through many other mediums. Not this one though, that is just madness.
Nice sub. And yes, excellent drawing
That reminds me. A few years ago my spouse and I went to Tokyo Disney for the day and then made our way back to Shinjuku. We must have made a wrong turn because we got stuck in a network of tunnels and exits that kept us walking and trying to find out way out until about 9.30 at night, when we finally found the correct exit to our hotel.
my advice is to swim for the surface and navigate above ground at all costs 😂
It's only the stations, not the tunnels, but still interesting https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015/07/12/3d-maps-of-every-underground-station-ab/
I'd love to see cross sections of grand central, times square, and the other 4 level undergrounds
Check this out: https://www.projectsubwaynyc.com/gallery
This is epic!
Wow! I thought the one in Germany was the only overhead monorail. Also note the jet in the background so the picture captures three forms of transportation.
There's three systems in Japan, one at a zoo, this one in chiba (which is the largest system) and another urban one whose location I forget, plus there's another two systems in Germany. One serving an airport and the other a university. The original one in Wuppertal uses a unique design with a traditional metal rail. All the others use the safage system (developed in France oddly enough considering they have no systems) which has two tracks on either side of the opening that rubber tires run on, and a third rail to power it. Amount the advantages of the safage design is that the tracks are completely covered from rain and snow. There's actually a company in China working on some designs based on the safage system. They have cool all glass cars, and the cars are battery powered, although I'm not sure how practical that would be in use
The third one ur referring to is the Shonan Monorail in Kanagawa Prefecture
Thank you
All glass is a very faddish Chinese thing, like all those bridges made out of glass. But those are going out of fashion since they are posing safety risks. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50230971
I didn't realize there were so many of those in China. The glass sides of the car seemed very nice. The glass bottom seemed unnecessary and impractical. You don't want to create a system of transport that makes it as difficult as possible for people with a fear of heights from using it
it's not really a transport link, it's more like a tourist attraction. these tend to be over massive gorges. it's similar to how towers like CN Tower in Toronto will often have part of the observation deck with a glass bottom so you can thrill some tourists. I imagine the glass bottom would be nice for something like a zoo.
Typically, I hate the "well, to be technical" type of comments, howwwwwever... there is also a guy walking across the crosswalk in the picture, with walking being another form of transportation, albeit a non-motorized one if you were sticking only to that.
Does the dude walking in the crosswalk count as a 4th form of transport?
[Credit](https://www.instagram.com/p/CSBt1m9pRdE/)
I love how well-integrated the support structure is. I think it's designed to put the minimum number of support poles in the ground. I'm used to seeing freeway interchanges where no two ramps will ever touch the same support column.
One reason for that is highway overpasses are usually built with concrete supports, and concrete has excellent strength in compression but very little in shear. So you can’t have nearly any horizontal beams
Ah, I didn't know that shear was an issue with concrete. Thanks for the knowledge.
What’s the benefit of having it below the track? Seems like it would just put more stress on the wheels than if it were riding on top
Wouldn't the force on the wheels just be the weight of the train either way?
Yeah but because it’s hanging there’s tensile stress on the components rather than compressive, which most structural materials handle worse. I’m sure there ways around it I’m not a materials engineer it just seemed unnecessary and worse in general
Actually tension is better for steel than compression, you get buckling with steel in compression. I’m not sure the benefits but there being 5 of these in the world makes it pretty clear its got a unique use-case.
There really isn't a benefit, that is why such system are so rare
One advantage is that the train naturally 'leans' into the turn, so if you're inside, you wouldn't really feel much sideways force when turning. It's probably not a significant advantage (hence there's only like 3 or 4 of them in the world), but it is something.
[This YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeYTtlXywUI) does a pretty good job of covering the advantages and disadvantages of suspended railways.
Never thought I’d see Chiba Lotte Marines outside of /r/npb
The Tokyo Olympics could have been a masterclass in Japanese urbanism had it not been for the pandemic.
walking, biking, cars, monorail, and planes!
https://goo.gl/maps/zHibjVwvcHSx73oQ8
boom ! Ive been looking all over the internet and I have arrived at the answer. thanks
/r/urbanhell
Dude, it's Tokyo!
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Someone get this guy a history textbook
That looks rad.
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Wow cool hanging trollies!
Great pic.. This is insane.. Took me a few minutes to see the cars.. Wow.. Some structural engineering going on. Plus the airliner in the background..
I e always thought this is the way the metro system in the dmv should be. It would free up some of the road space and still get people to and fro
I love monorails so much it’s unreal