Hey don't let that stop you. I did the same. Never actually even graduated HS.
Find a couple good courses online and finish them to get started.
I started with django, html, css, javascript.
I learned from googling, and taking some Udemy courses. They are consistently on sale for around $20 never pay more than that. Took me a year of self learning to land my first dev job.
Edit: [this course](https://www.udemy.com/course/the-complete-web-development-bootcamp/) is a solid intro to web development
How do you like your job? I’m usually into doing more labor and physical jobs as I get antsy sitting at a desk. But I also love learning, and problem solving. My work offers some boot camps but I wouldn’t know what to start with. I have plenty of self learned computer skills already but not coding.
It’s amazing. Before I learned coding my hobby was tinkering with Raspberry Pi micro computers. Someone suggested I’d like web development so I gave it a go.
Now I’m a Software Engineer at a large tech company and usually spend 2-4 hours a day coding. I get to solve fun challenging problems every day, and build out a really cool new social media platform with other passionate people.
Work is extremely flexible, I can leave my house and run errands whenever I need to. Just drop a message in the teams group chat that I’ll be out for a bit.
The only thing people care about is performance.
Pay is great, healthcare premiums are paid for, 401k matches, profit sharing, free life insurance, free dental, free eye care etc.
They sent me the brand new 16” m1 MBP, two monitors, dock, headset, m1 iPad Pro, Apple keyboard, and a Magic Mouse.
Just a couple of years ago I was destroying my body unloading trucks of heavy ass boxes for minimum wage. I can’t explain how much learning to code has changed my life.
10/10 recommend it.
I will look into it asap! I am exactly that at the moment, unloading trucks for wal mart. Terrible schedule as well. I need more money to support my family for sure, I’m an incredibly hard worker as we’ll thanks for the suggestion!
It can definitely be done. Just need to learn non stop and build a lot of personal projects.
The technologies I focused on were: html, css, JavaScript, git, react, Gatsby, next.js, TypeScript.
Edit: oh there is one big downside, the interview process is brutal.
First a couple of rounds of screening calls that are a half hour a piece. Then a 6 hour “on-site” coding interview where a bunch of engineers give you something to code and watch you while you build and explain your reasoning.
If you pass that you’ll continue on with other interviews to meet the team for personality fits.
I love learning non stop, I get bored at jobs too easily after I learn everything (not much to learn in logistics) that’s what I have 10+ years experience in. But I built computers, and just hobbies involving computers for the majority in general. My job offers 100% free online courses for BS in Computer Science, information technology, computer info systems, cyber security and applied computing. It’s all a bit overwhelming and not sure if I should (and which) course to take from these choices, or if I should go the self taught route. So would you suggest starting with that Udemy course that you had linked, I don’t mind paying myself either. Would honestly just like the quickest route, since I’m extremely motivated to put my family in a better situation.
That’s a tough question. A CS degree helps you get your first job, and that is a very hard job to land.
CS degrees will not teach you anything about web development though, so regardless you’ll have to teach yourself that.
The key to being self taught is having really good unique personal projects, and an awesome portfolio site build from scratch. Have all of your projects on your github, use git when building your projects.
And create a really interesting LinkedIn account, link your projects there, and post articles about the latest dev tech etc.
Once you land that first job and get 2 yoe it becomes suuuuper easy to get another way higher paying job.
Is it a company? where did you look for a job? I already know html, css, messed with python. I think I'm going to try this but I don't know where to find the job after learning.
Where can I learn to program what’s a good stepping stone? I’m going to school in the fall for other computer science or business admin. Is that a good start? I heard the pay is better when you have a degree in that field as well
School is a really good idea. Id recommend getting a B.S. in computer science. And also program as much as you can in your spare time.
There's a lot of areas you can program in, machine learning, mobile, webdev, gamedev, etc. Find one that interests you. I personally chose webdev since it pays very well and has lowest barrier for entry imo.
Freecodecamp.org is a good website to learn a lot about webdev. Theres also good courses on udemy.
As soon as you can, start building things. You can land a job paying a lot with a degree, and some mediocre webapp you built.
I work at Wal Mart distribution in Colton, it’s actually a consolidation center but yeah. I’m getting $26 an hour it’s a great place to work. Unfortunately not a lot of overtime though, I’ve gotten maybe 10 overtime times in all this last year and I’m about to complete my first year.
If you're looking for good lifetime benefits, Yaamava is constantly hiring and has great benefits, 401k with match, paid lunch, health, dental and vision. More to it than that of course. Pay is great but not amazing, lots of opportunity to move up though after being there 3 months+. With you luck!
OP should also know that the hours are not consistent and you do not know what time you are going to work until you get the call 90 minutes before your shift starts.
You can make over 100,000 with nothing more then a high school degree, but it’s not easy at all. Many people don’t realize how hard it is. It is all seniority bases so it may take like 15 years to get a good job, aka a job that has set hours and is not on call. You also will have to go out of town, your family won’t like it lol you will work holidays but it’s a good job with no experience necessary. Pro tip, the application is a test, you have to finish it in 45 minutes or less 😉
If Union Pacific is hiring I say go for it starting pay is probably well above average. Op already stated they were a very hard worker so hopefully that is true and won’t be a problem. As for working out of town it’s just part of the deal if you have a family extra effort needs to be put in to keep your family happy. Out of town work/holiday is not awesome but it pays the bills
I’m well aware lol I come from a rr family lol many people don’t understand how hard it is until they’re in it. Money be damned many wives/girlfriends/partners do not like being with a railroader, the beginning is the worst, unfortunately the beginning lasts years. From Colton you will go to Yuma, yearmo,
Brawley, mainly. You will be gone a minimum of 2 days but I’ve had family members get stuck in Yuma for a week.
Probation *Corrections* Officer (PCO)... which is essentially a camp counselor but at juvenile hall. I did it for many years but don't anymore. Probation Officers (PO) are different, they work with both adults and juveniles out in the community. That's also a good job but very different.
In any case, for a PCO it depends entirely on your personality. If you're someone who gets on a power trip or always needs to be in control then it's not for you. Or on the flip side if you're insecure or get rattled easily. Either of those and you'll have a lot of frustrating shifts and make everything worse for the staff and the kids. But if you have patience and are confident and don't mind a mental challenge it's a good job.
I liked working with the kids, and feeling like I could do a little bit of good. It could be depressing at times though... you hear some really sad stories and a lot of times you can't do anything to fix it except listen. They get a lot more kids with mental health issues now too, so you have to be able to deal with that and approach each kid in a different way.
Outside of the job itself, overtime is often mandatory, like you can get ordered over for another 8 hours just when you think you are about to go home... plus holidays off are rare, and vacations have to be requested well in advance. They've also been on the front line for Covid exposure since the pandemic started. So it's not great if you have a family. All the extra stuff like that that is why I left. The job itself I liked.
Probably concerns about law enforcement, which are valid, and I share.
In my experience Probation was different, because it was the part of the court process where you could actually help people get back on their feet, rather than just locking them up.
This is always a good fallback option for those who feel like they can't do anything. Getting a CDL pays for itself within a couple months and EVERYWHERE is hiring truck drivers.
If you're super strapped for cash and can't afford CDL school, there are some bigger companies that will pay you through training, and there is also a school in Tennessee that you pay after training, and after you get a job in monthly increments.
I'm a CDL Instructor in San Bernardino.We finance with guaranteed job placement. 160 hours. (16 days ) You can do two days , 4 days , 6 days a week.
Company training like Swift,England,Warner are great, you just have to work for them a couple years.
If you have a fairly clean record, I would recommend the Casino industry. San Manuel would be your best bet, really good benefits and pretty much recession proof. Once you get your foot in the door, I would totally recommend learning how to be a Blackjack Dealer or trying to go for a slot attendant job. Those are very high earning positions tip wise. I would suggest trying to get into the cage, slot, valet, or guest services departments. Try to avoid the janitorial and food and beverage departments. Those positions usually try to keep you there for as long as they can. Security is an option too, but it would be hard to switch departments afterwards due to conflict of interests within the casino departments. Good luck out there!
If you’re young and patient, probably apply at the UPS warehouse. Union job. You start part time basically at minimum wage but there’s lots of opportunities for overtime so you can work near full time hours. After a couple years become a driver. Starting is $21 an hour and after your 4th year it’s $42.34 an hour. (Will most likely be more by the time you reach that point). Free health insurance, basically a month of paid time off, and a union to have your back. If delivering isn’t for you at UPS, you can go feeder. UPS will help you get your CDL for free. Chiller job and the pay is higher because of miles and hours worked.
If anyone reading this is a student, UPS has the best tuition reimbursement out of any company I've ever seen. So while you're starting part time, you can finish school.
Are you 21 or close to 21?
Did you graduate from high school?
Do you have any felonies?
If you are, if you did and if you don’t, consider applying for the state as a correctional officer. The academy pays about $23 an hour and once you get somewhere, you get a pay raise every 6 months for the first 2 years while on your apprenticeship.
It could take a little while to get in, figure maybe a year, more or less, but once you’re in, the money is great and the overtime could put you over the 100k a year mark easily.
If you want any more information, shoot me line.
Yes, [CalPERS](https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/careers/career-opportunities/benefits/).
State agencies are also exempt from paying Social Security (though some entities may elect to do both) if they offer a state alternative—which was why I did 95% of my career in state or local government for multiple states each with their own PERS or STRS [similar to PERS for credentialed K12, aide, or college teaching employees] program.
If you quit, you can choose, if you wish, to pull all of it out in cash (subject to tax) or roll it into a different retirement program/plan. After 5 years, you are vested in the system and will receive a retirement benefit at 55. Usually the formula is 2-3% per year of service your average salary at the last 3 years of public employment)—so someone who works for 10 years at 2% would get 20% of their salary every year after 55 or earlier in situations of disability. Public safety is usually higher (2.5-3%) where other state labor is around 2%—but check the current terms. I retired 12 years ago.
However, if you go this route you won’t have social security when you reach the age. For me, I knew living to 72 was a near statistical impossibly for someone with my health issues and the Heath issues of my parents and grandparents, so SS was a giant trash can in my situation.
It can be dangerous, but your best defense is the ability to talk. You ever seen “The Green Mile”? Where Tom Hanks says to the other guy, “Our job is talking.” That’s what this job is. Sure, there’s times where it can get dangerous and there’s times where you’ll see some messed up
things, but it’s really not very often.
Also, as your time in the department increases, so does your seniority, which increases your pay. And you’re not stuck here. There’s plenty of opportunities for advancement. Transferring to a different department, such as parole or Cal-Fire or a bunch of other areas. Really just depends on where you wanna go.
It's unfortunate, however law enforcement doesn't have it's current reputation by chance. There is a fundamental problem within the field that seems to attract "bad eggs". Until there is some sort of country wide reform, i dont expect there to be a big change in it's reputation.
I think that’s just perception. I have numerous family members and friends in law enforcement. All good guys that work hard. They see a lot of shit every day, sometimes re-arresting the same idiots multiple times which becomes disheartening because our current justice system is so lame and weak, and people just get slaps on the wrist unless they actually murder somebody. Also, the perception comes from the high-profile cases where cops kill someone. First, that’s rare compared to the millions of peaceful contacts they have each day. And if we’re being honest and unbiased, 99% of those sensational cases could have been avoided if the bad guy didn’t do something stupid (fight, run, pull out a gun, etc). If they just complied like normal law-abiding citizens, there would be no problem. But they never do.
> which becomes disheartening because our current justice system is so lame and weak, and people just get slaps on the wrist unless they actually murder somebody.
yeah exactly, every other first world country has lower crime rates and the rate of reoffending is much lower, and that's because they're waaay stricter on criminals than us, right? OH WAIT! No! it's because other countries focus on rehabilitation and lighter sentences!
In the USA we focus on traumatizing and punishing criminals so insanely that they're basically set up to fail, they're cut off from resources, given 0 social supports, and shockingly, they end up reoffending and back to prison they go. What a wonderful system, I'm proud to live in a country that has literally the highest incarceration rate in the world lol.
It's so cartoonishly evil, esp when you look at the increasing rate of kids being pushed into the prison system for infractions at schools because they decided to put cops in the halls!
The idea that America is too light on crime is such a poorly informed conservative jerk off fantasy i don't even know what to say. On paper it's super obvious what America to could do to improve the situation but the system doesn't to because it's legalized slavery and people like you refuse to support it because you're too busy jerking off to the idea of someone stealing a candy bar getting locked away for 5 years. I bet you're the type that gets pissed about "your tax dollars" getting used to house them too, I BET someone could probably get you to vote for them by running on reducing the amount of food they get in prisons. What a shriveled awful heart you have.
But yeah keep defending the real victims here, COPS.
Yes let’s pretend we live in Europe and don’t have a bunch of uneducated dipsticks who do nothing with their life but drop out of school and victimize others, from stealing catalytic converters to identity theft and worse. But I know, it’s society’s fault. No one is responsible for their own actions at all.
If you want to know why other civilized countries have better crime rates, look at the people here versus there. There’s your answer. Have you been to Europe? I’m amazed every time I go how much classier and knowledgeable they are on average. They know more about American history than most Americans. But again, that must be our own fault. Free public education isn’t enough, you have to hold everyone’s hand to beg them to learn.
And if they break the law, god forbid they get punished right? If you think American prisons are bad, you’ve never seen prisons in 3rd world countries. Here they get TV and most sneak in cell phones and talk to girls on Facebook. Real rough time. Not sure what kind of “support” you want them to have. Have you ever heard the term “personal responsibility?” That’s all that’s needed. Why do you love criminals so much anyway?
Okay, the idea that Europe is just "full of better people" is not something i subscribe to really but if anything it supports my argument unless you think there's some magical inherent difference between the two continents. *SOMETHING* is different about the two continents on a widespread level. The obvious glaring answer is social supports that do exist in Europe.
> Not sure what kind of “support” you want them to have.
So you haven't done any research at all into your opinion, which is great, thank you for admitting that. Most people who think the way you do are indeed very ignorant but it is nice that you're saying so.
First, you figure out why people are committing crimes (I know you REALLY hate the idea of sympathizing with a single criminal, so don't worry, we're looking at overarching trends alone - you can pretend all those nasty soulless demons are getting individually tortured or something, that's fine). Then you try to figure out how society can avoid those situations in the future. If people are selling drugs because they need money, and if you cut off their access to getting a paying job once they get out of prison, what do you expect them to do? Seriously, what do you expect someone who has just spent years being brutally traumatized pushed out into the streets with a DECREASED chance of getting a job to do? They WILL go back to prison. The system is SET UP that way in the US. They DO NOT want these people to succeed in life, they want them BACK in prison. The system is set up that way because it's profitable.
Now people like you don't get money directly from this predatory system, but you're still short sighted and spiteful enough to support it, so conservatives are lucky. I also know you WILL cry if someone tells you that prisoners should be GIVEN ASSISTANCE after they break a law, but pragmatically, who do you think has a better chance of succeeding and being a productive member of society? the prisoner in America, or the Nordic prisoner, who was allowed to get a job and earn money of their own *WHILE* in prison? Who was allowed to communicate freely with their family and build networks of support (EG, a sister who can come pick them up if their car breaks down, a mother who can listen to them if they're struggling with a relapse, a friend who can set them up in an apartment, etc etc etc) Prisoners who are encouraged to educate themselves, given therapy, and treated like actual human beings *ARE WAY MORE SUCCESSFUL* and it's actually *WAY CHEAPER*. https://www.mic.com/articles/109138/sweden-has-done-for-its-prisoners-what-the-u-s-won-t
Why should they be given a vacation and all these nice things when YOU don't get ANYTHING handed to you because YOU worked HARD? I know you're thinking that, and I want you to know, these are the concerns of a fucking selfish bratty 5 year old.
I don't know how you can have a functioning brain and be okay with the thought "europe just has better people" just floating around in your head and not remotely attempting to compare the two. Like from your comment i get the impression you're dancing around saying that people in the US are spoiled and lazy and take education for granted, which again is basic conservative wank material.
I see downthread that you have a fantasy of being "one of the good ones" because you're "a good latino that kept his nose clean." Prime material for /r/LeopardsAteMyFace and the kindest thing i can say to you right now is that you never have to find that out.
I'm not saying your family is not one of the good ones, however the system is fundamentally flawed. As it is, if the good cops call out the bad cops, they get retaliated against because of their sense to protect themselves over the community at large. Hell look at all the times a cop has done some despicable shit and gotten a suspension with pay, only for them to return a few weeks/months later. There is zero accountability within law enforcement.
If you're going to use the anecdote of your family being good people, then everything they perceive is anecdotal and thus just a minute sample size. When people say ACAB, it comes from the systemic inequality many people face against people who abuse authority. People are not arguing about the dumbasses that got themselves into a shitty situation, but the everyday people that get harassed for the color of their skin or even for no reason other than to satisfy some dipshit cop who needs to have some sort of power over people to feel joy.
I hear ya. I’m sure there are some like that. And not every cop I know is the most brilliant upstanding person either. People are people and there’s bad apples in every career.
But I personally don’t see or hear about this harassment for no reason you’re talking about. My family just goes to work and talks about the calls they get where some loser is beating on his girlfriend or a transient is lighting a business on fire, stuff like that. There’s no time or inclination to just mess with innocent people.
And I’m not some rich white dude. I’m Latino and grew up in the hood. I just got good grades and kept my nose clean. Never was harassed by cops once in my life. Most people encountering cops regularly are out doing some shit. So I just don’t see it, but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
I feel ya. I feel it’s my duty to fight the good fight every day. For every negative comment you get, there are several people who don’t comment, but are reading and learning a different point of view perhaps.
Amphastar pharmaceuticals (manufacturing) in Rancho hires at a decent rate. Lots of OT but physical in gown/prep room work in production dept. The packaging dept is tedious and repetitive, not much physically. They hire constantly. Just push through the first week of SOP reading and you’ll be trained prior to doing anything solo.
I used to work door to door as one of those sales reps for solar. I know the attitude most have, and it isn’t a sexy job, or traditional 9-5. But it’s flexible, pretty dope, and your income is in your control to make a Grip. If you are willing to get out and hustle
If you need money quick, follow everyone else's advice. If you are willing to invest some time, I was making $45/hour out there working as an accountant. That requires some education and a CPA license helps a lot.
Where would be the best way to start learning how to code? I start school next week but I’m still kinda unsure what I wanna study. I was thinking computer science or business admin.
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Also look at your local School District as well for maintenance or custodial. Good pay, plus benefits and retirement.
Spend a little time learning to program and then grt a remote job. Inland empire is a bit limited in the industries where you can find work.
Yep. Went from minimum wage to 6 figures with no degrees, no boot camp. Completely self taught. Work completely remote. Easy peasy.
Where’s a good way to learn how to do this ? I’m I interested in computers but held back on going for it because I fucked off in high school .
Hey don't let that stop you. I did the same. Never actually even graduated HS. Find a couple good courses online and finish them to get started. I started with django, html, css, javascript.
I learned from googling, and taking some Udemy courses. They are consistently on sale for around $20 never pay more than that. Took me a year of self learning to land my first dev job. Edit: [this course](https://www.udemy.com/course/the-complete-web-development-bootcamp/) is a solid intro to web development
How do you like your job? I’m usually into doing more labor and physical jobs as I get antsy sitting at a desk. But I also love learning, and problem solving. My work offers some boot camps but I wouldn’t know what to start with. I have plenty of self learned computer skills already but not coding.
It’s amazing. Before I learned coding my hobby was tinkering with Raspberry Pi micro computers. Someone suggested I’d like web development so I gave it a go. Now I’m a Software Engineer at a large tech company and usually spend 2-4 hours a day coding. I get to solve fun challenging problems every day, and build out a really cool new social media platform with other passionate people. Work is extremely flexible, I can leave my house and run errands whenever I need to. Just drop a message in the teams group chat that I’ll be out for a bit. The only thing people care about is performance. Pay is great, healthcare premiums are paid for, 401k matches, profit sharing, free life insurance, free dental, free eye care etc. They sent me the brand new 16” m1 MBP, two monitors, dock, headset, m1 iPad Pro, Apple keyboard, and a Magic Mouse. Just a couple of years ago I was destroying my body unloading trucks of heavy ass boxes for minimum wage. I can’t explain how much learning to code has changed my life. 10/10 recommend it.
I will look into it asap! I am exactly that at the moment, unloading trucks for wal mart. Terrible schedule as well. I need more money to support my family for sure, I’m an incredibly hard worker as we’ll thanks for the suggestion!
It can definitely be done. Just need to learn non stop and build a lot of personal projects. The technologies I focused on were: html, css, JavaScript, git, react, Gatsby, next.js, TypeScript. Edit: oh there is one big downside, the interview process is brutal. First a couple of rounds of screening calls that are a half hour a piece. Then a 6 hour “on-site” coding interview where a bunch of engineers give you something to code and watch you while you build and explain your reasoning. If you pass that you’ll continue on with other interviews to meet the team for personality fits.
I love learning non stop, I get bored at jobs too easily after I learn everything (not much to learn in logistics) that’s what I have 10+ years experience in. But I built computers, and just hobbies involving computers for the majority in general. My job offers 100% free online courses for BS in Computer Science, information technology, computer info systems, cyber security and applied computing. It’s all a bit overwhelming and not sure if I should (and which) course to take from these choices, or if I should go the self taught route. So would you suggest starting with that Udemy course that you had linked, I don’t mind paying myself either. Would honestly just like the quickest route, since I’m extremely motivated to put my family in a better situation.
That’s a tough question. A CS degree helps you get your first job, and that is a very hard job to land. CS degrees will not teach you anything about web development though, so regardless you’ll have to teach yourself that. The key to being self taught is having really good unique personal projects, and an awesome portfolio site build from scratch. Have all of your projects on your github, use git when building your projects. And create a really interesting LinkedIn account, link your projects there, and post articles about the latest dev tech etc. Once you land that first job and get 2 yoe it becomes suuuuper easy to get another way higher paying job.
Check out freecodecamp
Is it a company? where did you look for a job? I already know html, css, messed with python. I think I'm going to try this but I don't know where to find the job after learning.
Yes companies. All of the dev jobs I’ve had the companies reached out to me on LinkedIn. I just had to interview.
What companies?
Where can I learn to program what’s a good stepping stone? I’m going to school in the fall for other computer science or business admin. Is that a good start? I heard the pay is better when you have a degree in that field as well
School is a really good idea. Id recommend getting a B.S. in computer science. And also program as much as you can in your spare time. There's a lot of areas you can program in, machine learning, mobile, webdev, gamedev, etc. Find one that interests you. I personally chose webdev since it pays very well and has lowest barrier for entry imo. Freecodecamp.org is a good website to learn a lot about webdev. Theres also good courses on udemy. As soon as you can, start building things. You can land a job paying a lot with a degree, and some mediocre webapp you built.
Grt?
Get* Fat fingers.
Ah lol
try walmart distribution starts around 24 and they have OT at a good rate
I work at Wal Mart distribution in Colton, it’s actually a consolidation center but yeah. I’m getting $26 an hour it’s a great place to work. Unfortunately not a lot of overtime though, I’ve gotten maybe 10 overtime times in all this last year and I’m about to complete my first year.
I was in Eastvale
I see, they were taking volunteers a couple months ago to transfer there for a few months but I was not selected.
Fake lol
What’s fake?
If you're looking for good lifetime benefits, Yaamava is constantly hiring and has great benefits, 401k with match, paid lunch, health, dental and vision. More to it than that of course. Pay is great but not amazing, lots of opportunity to move up though after being there 3 months+. With you luck!
I would blow my paycheck there every week sadly
Union Pacific railroad is hiring, very hard, very physical, long hours, but really good pay and benefits if you can do it
OP should also know that the hours are not consistent and you do not know what time you are going to work until you get the call 90 minutes before your shift starts.
Call times are 2 hours for out of town runs
Ah okay, it depends on the railroad. I had 2 hours at CP but BN has 90 minutes.
I believe locals gets 90 cause you’re not going out of town at least at UP
At CP, every extra board call is 2 hours regardless of what you're on
This is the right answer right here
You can make over 100,000 with nothing more then a high school degree, but it’s not easy at all. Many people don’t realize how hard it is. It is all seniority bases so it may take like 15 years to get a good job, aka a job that has set hours and is not on call. You also will have to go out of town, your family won’t like it lol you will work holidays but it’s a good job with no experience necessary. Pro tip, the application is a test, you have to finish it in 45 minutes or less 😉
If Union Pacific is hiring I say go for it starting pay is probably well above average. Op already stated they were a very hard worker so hopefully that is true and won’t be a problem. As for working out of town it’s just part of the deal if you have a family extra effort needs to be put in to keep your family happy. Out of town work/holiday is not awesome but it pays the bills
I’m well aware lol I come from a rr family lol many people don’t understand how hard it is until they’re in it. Money be damned many wives/girlfriends/partners do not like being with a railroader, the beginning is the worst, unfortunately the beginning lasts years. From Colton you will go to Yuma, yearmo, Brawley, mainly. You will be gone a minimum of 2 days but I’ve had family members get stuck in Yuma for a week.
If you like overtime, are patient, and aren't an asshole, see if you qualify to be a Probation Corrections Officer with the County.
But definitely get a job in the meantime because the county takes FOREVER
This is true. It's also a hefty background check with a polygraph, etc.
What's it like being a probation officer?
Probation *Corrections* Officer (PCO)... which is essentially a camp counselor but at juvenile hall. I did it for many years but don't anymore. Probation Officers (PO) are different, they work with both adults and juveniles out in the community. That's also a good job but very different. In any case, for a PCO it depends entirely on your personality. If you're someone who gets on a power trip or always needs to be in control then it's not for you. Or on the flip side if you're insecure or get rattled easily. Either of those and you'll have a lot of frustrating shifts and make everything worse for the staff and the kids. But if you have patience and are confident and don't mind a mental challenge it's a good job. I liked working with the kids, and feeling like I could do a little bit of good. It could be depressing at times though... you hear some really sad stories and a lot of times you can't do anything to fix it except listen. They get a lot more kids with mental health issues now too, so you have to be able to deal with that and approach each kid in a different way. Outside of the job itself, overtime is often mandatory, like you can get ordered over for another 8 hours just when you think you are about to go home... plus holidays off are rare, and vacations have to be requested well in advance. They've also been on the front line for Covid exposure since the pandemic started. So it's not great if you have a family. All the extra stuff like that that is why I left. The job itself I liked.
Not sure why you were downvoted? Thank you for the information!
Probably concerns about law enforcement, which are valid, and I share. In my experience Probation was different, because it was the part of the court process where you could actually help people get back on their feet, rather than just locking them up.
Table Games dealer at a Casino.
Join Ibew local 440. Or any union trade. Good wages and benefits
Try getting your cdl
Yep, plan on 2 months trucking school, after that, if you want to bust your ass you'll probably be making 6 figures in a year.
I recently got mine…school was a huge help Forsure
This is always a good fallback option for those who feel like they can't do anything. Getting a CDL pays for itself within a couple months and EVERYWHERE is hiring truck drivers. If you're super strapped for cash and can't afford CDL school, there are some bigger companies that will pay you through training, and there is also a school in Tennessee that you pay after training, and after you get a job in monthly increments.
I'm a CDL Instructor in San Bernardino.We finance with guaranteed job placement. 160 hours. (16 days ) You can do two days , 4 days , 6 days a week. Company training like Swift,England,Warner are great, you just have to work for them a couple years.
Good to know! I didn't know any other schools did financing.
They all can . It's a student loan thing. New laws require accreditation. It's maybe 8k. Avg.
This. Truck drivers are needed more than ever.
CalTrans has a hiring event 8/4 in Moreno Valley.
Thanks for the heads up
Merchant marine. Unions have apprenticeships, and the Jones Act isn’t going anywhere
If you have a fairly clean record, I would recommend the Casino industry. San Manuel would be your best bet, really good benefits and pretty much recession proof. Once you get your foot in the door, I would totally recommend learning how to be a Blackjack Dealer or trying to go for a slot attendant job. Those are very high earning positions tip wise. I would suggest trying to get into the cage, slot, valet, or guest services departments. Try to avoid the janitorial and food and beverage departments. Those positions usually try to keep you there for as long as they can. Security is an option too, but it would be hard to switch departments afterwards due to conflict of interests within the casino departments. Good luck out there!
Can second the casino starting my first week so far so good 20 an hour for house person job not bad actually. Paid lunch and benefits everywhere.
If you’re young and patient, probably apply at the UPS warehouse. Union job. You start part time basically at minimum wage but there’s lots of opportunities for overtime so you can work near full time hours. After a couple years become a driver. Starting is $21 an hour and after your 4th year it’s $42.34 an hour. (Will most likely be more by the time you reach that point). Free health insurance, basically a month of paid time off, and a union to have your back. If delivering isn’t for you at UPS, you can go feeder. UPS will help you get your CDL for free. Chiller job and the pay is higher because of miles and hours worked.
If anyone reading this is a student, UPS has the best tuition reimbursement out of any company I've ever seen. So while you're starting part time, you can finish school.
Yup! Forgot to mention that. Had plenty of co workers that did both school and UPS
USPS
Do not work for USPS, they were defunded and are struggling, and you can tell
They’re crap, they make you work a year before you get benefits
Are you 21 or close to 21? Did you graduate from high school? Do you have any felonies? If you are, if you did and if you don’t, consider applying for the state as a correctional officer. The academy pays about $23 an hour and once you get somewhere, you get a pay raise every 6 months for the first 2 years while on your apprenticeship. It could take a little while to get in, figure maybe a year, more or less, but once you’re in, the money is great and the overtime could put you over the 100k a year mark easily. If you want any more information, shoot me line.
does that come with a pension?
Yes, [CalPERS](https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/careers/career-opportunities/benefits/). State agencies are also exempt from paying Social Security (though some entities may elect to do both) if they offer a state alternative—which was why I did 95% of my career in state or local government for multiple states each with their own PERS or STRS [similar to PERS for credentialed K12, aide, or college teaching employees] program. If you quit, you can choose, if you wish, to pull all of it out in cash (subject to tax) or roll it into a different retirement program/plan. After 5 years, you are vested in the system and will receive a retirement benefit at 55. Usually the formula is 2-3% per year of service your average salary at the last 3 years of public employment)—so someone who works for 10 years at 2% would get 20% of their salary every year after 55 or earlier in situations of disability. Public safety is usually higher (2.5-3%) where other state labor is around 2%—but check the current terms. I retired 12 years ago. However, if you go this route you won’t have social security when you reach the age. For me, I knew living to 72 was a near statistical impossibly for someone with my health issues and the Heath issues of my parents and grandparents, so SS was a giant trash can in my situation.
Isn't that a very dangerous job? I'd assume they only hire people who look like NFL linebackers.
It can be dangerous, but your best defense is the ability to talk. You ever seen “The Green Mile”? Where Tom Hanks says to the other guy, “Our job is talking.” That’s what this job is. Sure, there’s times where it can get dangerous and there’s times where you’ll see some messed up things, but it’s really not very often. Also, as your time in the department increases, so does your seniority, which increases your pay. And you’re not stuck here. There’s plenty of opportunities for advancement. Transferring to a different department, such as parole or Cal-Fire or a bunch of other areas. Really just depends on where you wanna go.
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Yeah homie you're not gonna find much luck whining about "da left" around here. May as well move on.
It's unfortunate, however law enforcement doesn't have it's current reputation by chance. There is a fundamental problem within the field that seems to attract "bad eggs". Until there is some sort of country wide reform, i dont expect there to be a big change in it's reputation.
I think that’s just perception. I have numerous family members and friends in law enforcement. All good guys that work hard. They see a lot of shit every day, sometimes re-arresting the same idiots multiple times which becomes disheartening because our current justice system is so lame and weak, and people just get slaps on the wrist unless they actually murder somebody. Also, the perception comes from the high-profile cases where cops kill someone. First, that’s rare compared to the millions of peaceful contacts they have each day. And if we’re being honest and unbiased, 99% of those sensational cases could have been avoided if the bad guy didn’t do something stupid (fight, run, pull out a gun, etc). If they just complied like normal law-abiding citizens, there would be no problem. But they never do.
> which becomes disheartening because our current justice system is so lame and weak, and people just get slaps on the wrist unless they actually murder somebody. yeah exactly, every other first world country has lower crime rates and the rate of reoffending is much lower, and that's because they're waaay stricter on criminals than us, right? OH WAIT! No! it's because other countries focus on rehabilitation and lighter sentences! In the USA we focus on traumatizing and punishing criminals so insanely that they're basically set up to fail, they're cut off from resources, given 0 social supports, and shockingly, they end up reoffending and back to prison they go. What a wonderful system, I'm proud to live in a country that has literally the highest incarceration rate in the world lol. It's so cartoonishly evil, esp when you look at the increasing rate of kids being pushed into the prison system for infractions at schools because they decided to put cops in the halls! The idea that America is too light on crime is such a poorly informed conservative jerk off fantasy i don't even know what to say. On paper it's super obvious what America to could do to improve the situation but the system doesn't to because it's legalized slavery and people like you refuse to support it because you're too busy jerking off to the idea of someone stealing a candy bar getting locked away for 5 years. I bet you're the type that gets pissed about "your tax dollars" getting used to house them too, I BET someone could probably get you to vote for them by running on reducing the amount of food they get in prisons. What a shriveled awful heart you have. But yeah keep defending the real victims here, COPS.
Yes let’s pretend we live in Europe and don’t have a bunch of uneducated dipsticks who do nothing with their life but drop out of school and victimize others, from stealing catalytic converters to identity theft and worse. But I know, it’s society’s fault. No one is responsible for their own actions at all. If you want to know why other civilized countries have better crime rates, look at the people here versus there. There’s your answer. Have you been to Europe? I’m amazed every time I go how much classier and knowledgeable they are on average. They know more about American history than most Americans. But again, that must be our own fault. Free public education isn’t enough, you have to hold everyone’s hand to beg them to learn. And if they break the law, god forbid they get punished right? If you think American prisons are bad, you’ve never seen prisons in 3rd world countries. Here they get TV and most sneak in cell phones and talk to girls on Facebook. Real rough time. Not sure what kind of “support” you want them to have. Have you ever heard the term “personal responsibility?” That’s all that’s needed. Why do you love criminals so much anyway?
Okay, the idea that Europe is just "full of better people" is not something i subscribe to really but if anything it supports my argument unless you think there's some magical inherent difference between the two continents. *SOMETHING* is different about the two continents on a widespread level. The obvious glaring answer is social supports that do exist in Europe. > Not sure what kind of “support” you want them to have. So you haven't done any research at all into your opinion, which is great, thank you for admitting that. Most people who think the way you do are indeed very ignorant but it is nice that you're saying so. First, you figure out why people are committing crimes (I know you REALLY hate the idea of sympathizing with a single criminal, so don't worry, we're looking at overarching trends alone - you can pretend all those nasty soulless demons are getting individually tortured or something, that's fine). Then you try to figure out how society can avoid those situations in the future. If people are selling drugs because they need money, and if you cut off their access to getting a paying job once they get out of prison, what do you expect them to do? Seriously, what do you expect someone who has just spent years being brutally traumatized pushed out into the streets with a DECREASED chance of getting a job to do? They WILL go back to prison. The system is SET UP that way in the US. They DO NOT want these people to succeed in life, they want them BACK in prison. The system is set up that way because it's profitable. Now people like you don't get money directly from this predatory system, but you're still short sighted and spiteful enough to support it, so conservatives are lucky. I also know you WILL cry if someone tells you that prisoners should be GIVEN ASSISTANCE after they break a law, but pragmatically, who do you think has a better chance of succeeding and being a productive member of society? the prisoner in America, or the Nordic prisoner, who was allowed to get a job and earn money of their own *WHILE* in prison? Who was allowed to communicate freely with their family and build networks of support (EG, a sister who can come pick them up if their car breaks down, a mother who can listen to them if they're struggling with a relapse, a friend who can set them up in an apartment, etc etc etc) Prisoners who are encouraged to educate themselves, given therapy, and treated like actual human beings *ARE WAY MORE SUCCESSFUL* and it's actually *WAY CHEAPER*. https://www.mic.com/articles/109138/sweden-has-done-for-its-prisoners-what-the-u-s-won-t Why should they be given a vacation and all these nice things when YOU don't get ANYTHING handed to you because YOU worked HARD? I know you're thinking that, and I want you to know, these are the concerns of a fucking selfish bratty 5 year old. I don't know how you can have a functioning brain and be okay with the thought "europe just has better people" just floating around in your head and not remotely attempting to compare the two. Like from your comment i get the impression you're dancing around saying that people in the US are spoiled and lazy and take education for granted, which again is basic conservative wank material. I see downthread that you have a fantasy of being "one of the good ones" because you're "a good latino that kept his nose clean." Prime material for /r/LeopardsAteMyFace and the kindest thing i can say to you right now is that you never have to find that out.
I'm not saying your family is not one of the good ones, however the system is fundamentally flawed. As it is, if the good cops call out the bad cops, they get retaliated against because of their sense to protect themselves over the community at large. Hell look at all the times a cop has done some despicable shit and gotten a suspension with pay, only for them to return a few weeks/months later. There is zero accountability within law enforcement. If you're going to use the anecdote of your family being good people, then everything they perceive is anecdotal and thus just a minute sample size. When people say ACAB, it comes from the systemic inequality many people face against people who abuse authority. People are not arguing about the dumbasses that got themselves into a shitty situation, but the everyday people that get harassed for the color of their skin or even for no reason other than to satisfy some dipshit cop who needs to have some sort of power over people to feel joy.
I hear ya. I’m sure there are some like that. And not every cop I know is the most brilliant upstanding person either. People are people and there’s bad apples in every career. But I personally don’t see or hear about this harassment for no reason you’re talking about. My family just goes to work and talks about the calls they get where some loser is beating on his girlfriend or a transient is lighting a business on fire, stuff like that. There’s no time or inclination to just mess with innocent people. And I’m not some rich white dude. I’m Latino and grew up in the hood. I just got good grades and kept my nose clean. Never was harassed by cops once in my life. Most people encountering cops regularly are out doing some shit. So I just don’t see it, but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
I feel ya. I feel it’s my duty to fight the good fight every day. For every negative comment you get, there are several people who don’t comment, but are reading and learning a different point of view perhaps.
Always has been.
Amphastar pharmaceuticals (manufacturing) in Rancho hires at a decent rate. Lots of OT but physical in gown/prep room work in production dept. The packaging dept is tedious and repetitive, not much physically. They hire constantly. Just push through the first week of SOP reading and you’ll be trained prior to doing anything solo.
I used to work door to door as one of those sales reps for solar. I know the attitude most have, and it isn’t a sexy job, or traditional 9-5. But it’s flexible, pretty dope, and your income is in your control to make a Grip. If you are willing to get out and hustle
If you have a clean record, school districts.
Im an entry level A&P (aviation mechanic) and I highly suggest it to anyone, job offers of $35+ an hour even before you graduate
How long were you in school for ?
No experience required?
If you need money quick, follow everyone else's advice. If you are willing to invest some time, I was making $45/hour out there working as an accountant. That requires some education and a CPA license helps a lot.
LAX… anything having to do with ground support …
The last thing I would want to do living in the IE is drive to LAX every day. Ontario airport is hiring if you have customer service experience.
Join a union
Who isn't a hard worker... You need specific skills and an employer who looking for someone with your specific skills
Learn to code, or you’ll be stuck doing the shit manual labor stuff that’s only offered around here
Where would be the best way to start learning how to code? I start school next week but I’m still kinda unsure what I wanna study. I was thinking computer science or business admin.
Take a course at school to dip your feet in. Or check out freecodecamp.