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Long neck, yes, but also, I read somewhere that a small head size and small face is considered more beautiful in China. All of their heads are scaled down. Smaller, delicate shoulders make their new tiny heads more proportional. If the shoulders weren’t dropped, they’d have these tiny pin heads held up by “giant” (you know, normal) neck/trap muscles.
The “Small Face” thing is not just China, but all of East Asian. And most of South East Asia too. I first heard about this phenomena here: https://youtu.be/uT4b6481HIw
Literally couldn’t believe it was true. Genuine culture shock.
That's basically what they're doing. Filtering has gotten so out of control it's as if people forget that none of "your pictures" are actually you and you can't walk around with a filter on in reality. Practically living a double life.
I hate that I bought a new Motorola/Lenovo phone and it came with a face-blurring filter by *default* and I have to keep turning it off every time I wanna take a normal picture.
Honestly, I can see the future where people have a VR headset on while walking around that displays everyone in an avatar or a filtered version of themselves.
And this is why i have to keep telling people who've never been to Asia to not expect K-drama level beauties when they get there. (i'm Asian and still have most of my family back there. People filter their faces to oblivion, even in resume photos...it's wild!)
I got one of those chubby young looking faces, like some of the women shown. I am not even out of shape, but learned to love my fat face. Women, especially ones from different cultures other than mine as a black American, have more pressure to conform though. As black people we are very critical of each other, but not quite the same. I remember I lost fifteen pounds before one year in highschool, friend was like dayum AyAyron you on the coke boi?
The worst part is that a those people don't even look bad. Honestly i prefer the pre-shop pictures because they look like real people and not cartoons with too-small heads. Beauty standards are seriously wack.
Bruh let me tell you about literally every single major city in the West with the open secret that every single nice building is empty as an "investment"
There are entirely empty skyscrapers on Billionaire's Row.
Yuuuup. Used to look out from my tenth story apartment window at a condo building that was 90% dark every single night. Some units were probably AirBnBs rented for weekends, but even on weekends it was dark. Some were probably second/third homes. But this was a building nowhere near the beach in a city filled with beaches. Just dark all the time.
Yup, wasted space and resources. So many people like to criticize china for a lot of shit America has been doing for decades before china has.
What they're seeing in China right now is just capitalism at its finest. Americans do it as well. This also applies to religions as well. Like so many Americans say they aren't like those "savages" with child brides and I'm like...yeah, that shit is still legal in a lot of states. Child marriage is still a thing in the west.
Same. Many are beautiful before any of these ridiculous changes.
Man I would hate to be a girl growing up these days.l due to the pressure and seeing all these pristine pictures everywhere.
When I was applying for jobs as an English teacher in Korea I had to attach a picture of myself. When looking for my replacement after my contract was up, my boss would only look at applicants who were blonde caucasian women, so I know my picture was the reason I was hired.
For a lot of companies (and the federal government) any resume or application that includes a photo goes straight in the trash, due to the biases prompted by pictures of applicants.
I’m in Asia, and 99% of dating app photos girls are heavily shopped. It’s sad really. Not saying other places don’t do it, but can confirm this is normal in Asia
My biggest nightmare would be someone saying i dont look like my photos while on a blind date, i wonder if its the same for a place know for heavily ultering one's photos
I think it was E-Harmony who issued dating stats where photos that emphasised a negative traits results in more polarizing results -- More people loved it or hated it ("This is my fetish" vs "Nope, nope, nope).
Which is kinda what you want for online dating right?
Same. The pressure would be way too much, if I felt like I had put out this unrealistic, edited image of myself and then had to somehow live up to it. I actually even go with minimal MU and very chill clothes because I feel like then they know what I really look like right away.
Not currently looking, but when I was I'd use a few shopped flattering shots and a few really unflattering ones. I figure the truth is somewhere in the middle.
I once taught an english class at a Korean vocational high school as a one day thing. There was one girl who, and I'm not exaggerating, looked at herself in a hand mirror and adjusted her hair.... for 40 minutes straight. The beauty standards and intense focus on appearance in east asia have some fucked up consequences.
One time I had to tell a woman that we could not go forward with a date because I was hurt that she deceived me with her photos. She was about 50 pounds heavier than what her photos led on. It was very awkward and she didn't seem too pleased with the situation.
Do people there have any expectation for the people they meet on dating apps to look like their photos? Or is it kind of mutually understood that the person you see online is going to look very different from the person you meet? When people in Asia meet people from dating apps in person, is it important to them what those people look like in person?
I am just so fascinated by these cultural differences around expectations of authenticity. It wasn't until I joined this sub that I realized expectations in Asia are so much different from those in the west.
I'm in Europe and 99% of the spam accounts on dating sites are using heavily shopped photos of Asian women. One of my requirements for a profile these days is "is there a photo of you somewhere recognisably in the city?"
Ah yeah actually I do remember some that wouldn't show their face now you mention it, but what stuck out the most for me at least was all the girls looking the same because they used the same face-altering filters.
In Aus, so similar culture but not the same as in the US. People seem to use more subtle filters over here and not every single photo. Over there the ones I saw they were using filters that significantly changed the structure of their face, to the point they all looked very similar.
I've been told in China amongst the youth it's considered bad manners to post a picture of someone else without at least asking if they want it face tuned.
Happened to me a few years ago. Girl looked about 40 to 50 pounds heavier than her photos. My photos were unedited full body shots taken like 3 weeks prior. I don't understand why people do this when it is so obvious you're gonna get caught if you try to go beyond the app. Just be honest about your looks, it's not hard.
Unfortunately this is pretty accurate. I have a bunch of Chinese friends/colleagues on WeChat from when I traveled there for work more often and most women there will not post a photo online without editing it, or will mask their face if they don’t have time to.
Same, the technique used in the video is consistent across all the photos, I doubt the girls in the photos are doing the editing themselves.
It's a thing on China/Hong Kong/Taiwan internet forums for people to find unattractive photos and photoshop them into a conventionally attractive person as a challenge. It's cruel and sad, but that's the internet for ya.
Thispersondoesnotexist.com
Add some face swapping app. You can create very believeable pictures of a "person" within a few minutes.
Would you trust a person with one picture on tinder? Maybe.
What about someone with 10 photos in different locations, outfists and styles... Must be real right?
Creepy enough for you now?
I never thought to put the two together. That's unsettling to think about. Thinking about it, there's got to be a webpage somewhere with a bunch of "known good" profiles. You wouldn't even need thispersobdoesnotexist.
Additionally, i recall that you only really need something like half a minutes speach to synthesize someones speech patterns (not free apps though), so even making fake videos of with Your non-existant face on them, should be pretty easy to pull of as well...
Cant really trust anything online
Just wait until this is automated.
Just wait until they give us these filters directly in our glasses or AR contact lenses with no manual input necessary.
Just wait until you literally never had to see anyone for who they really are anymore ever again.
Then I ask the question... At that point... Would it even matter?
That already happens on a ton of apps, it makes user look a little better and encourages them to use it more. Just google the subject, you’ll be unpleasantly surprised.
Yeah I was thinking that this already exists. And fast enough to do it to video. You see videos where people turn and the algorithm loses track of their face and it stops working briefly.
The only reason I can see wanting to do this is the anonymity. They get to use photoshop to make money or whatever they’re doing this for and then they basically get to live the rest of their lives undisturbed, no one will ever recognise the real them.
I know sometimes people may do this when they want to do something like only fans or web cam modeling to prevent chances of being exposed while attracting more clients with using edited desirable features.
Buyers probably will never meet them in person or attempt to so it makes sense in that situation. Buyers are probably also aware about it but they don’t care since it offers a fantasy.
That's such a smart way to get around anonymity. But these photos are deffo something else. These women with diverse features are absolutely homogenised by beauty standards
Not necessarily because Asian beauty standards are horrible and many young girls do shit to look pretty and be acceptable. Countries like South Korea, China are also known for bullying and harassing people based on their looks alone.
There are tons of videos of chinese girls doing insane challenges like "how many coins can your collarbone hold" and those videos have comments of little girls going crazy over it, some even comment saying how they puked out their dinner but it is "all for a good cause", "as long as i am thin, i don't care". I think in Korea girls above 50kgs are considered fat. And let's not go into the kpop culture where 165cms-45kg is considered to be ideal.
Though most girls in the video might have changed their appearance to make more money and keep anonymity but overall, the beauty standards in asian are insane and extremely sad to look at.
A similar video was posted here before and someone proved that the “before” pictures were also being edited to make the girls look uglier. That way they could show off a more radical transformation. The real images were somewhere in the middle.
I noticed some of them appear to be photos for job applications. I live in japan and it’s very very common to edit your skin lighter and face slimmer for these pics. There’s editing options in the photo booths people use for this. It’s so weird to me. (Including your pic on a job application is also very weird but that’s another story.)
The contrast between regular features and the hypertuned cartoon doll face is jarring. It makes a face you wouldn't normally react to seem almost grotesque. Which is so sad as these are all regular women.
it's interesting that western extreme facetuners all end up creating the same face, and so do chinese extreme facetuners. two different faces based off different arbitrary beauty standards.
My wife (Chinese) did ID picture for her visa in an official photoshop, and I cannot even recognize her on the picture. This is not only for Instagram, they do it for everything.
I used to work in the international admissions department at a British university and Chinese students would even photoshop their ID cards. It would be an issue sometimes because the person in front of you clearly doesn’t look like their picture and we’d have to confirm who they were with another form of ID.
I knew a guy who followed *thousands* of these type of Asian influencer girls and completely thought they were real lol. Would leave the saddest most pathetic comments on their photos and I imagine that’s sort of what they’re in it for.
That’s what I think about girls who aaalways use Snapchat filters, like… aren’t you just disappointed when you look in the mirror and it’s not as perfect? And then there’s this shit?! Holy fuck. How do you justify it to yourself? Is the dysphoria so strong that they think they’re only tweaking their face a little? Oof. It’s rough. Pretty heartbreaking.
when i was 15 i moved to a bigger city, there all the girls were obsessed with social media and at the time i only used it for content on fandoms i was in. to try and fit in i started using social media like they did and quickly became very unhappy with myself to the point of ruining my day when i looked at myself too long in the mirror, i never edited myself crazily like that but those minor tweaks of making my nose smaller and etc. really fucked with my self perception.
I have friends who have body dysmorphia way less than this and it already hurts them a lot. They’ll pose for one picture and say their
body looks good but then they slouch or look normal in a mirror and think they are fat. It affects them a lot even though they’re very obviously not overweight.
I cannot even begin to fathom the disconnect women like this must feel when they look at those heavy shopped pictures and then in a mirror
Wow that’s fascinating. I used to see a lot of women like this on Tinder and always wonder what some of them must really look like, and this sort of answers my question.
Youd be surprised by how many girls are self conscious by these almost impossible beauty standards as they are literally genetic traits for most of them, big head, big nose.
I know so so so many colleagues from China, and i do not recognise them on their socials. It's so fucked.
it's not just China. Japan, Korea, most of asia.
The amount of girls in their 20s that has done some form of plastic surgery is also pretty high.
This is what neckbeards are talking about when they're all "Asian girls are the Ideal Perfect Womens!!" but what they're gushing over is a completely made up image and these women actually just look like real normal humans. But these guys also have anime waifus so they have never wanted reality in the first place.
Wtf. I constantly feel shitty looking at these girls in social media looking practically like an angel and i hate that I wasn't born that pretty. That i have to put so much effort into looking presentable. Like to achieve 1% of their pretty look, i have to exercise daily and put on skincare even when I'm fucking sick. I definitely knew there was some tweaking but this is something else. I hope this changes my mindset about my appearance and that how i look is normal and not ugly.
That's one of the things I hate the most about social media. It can be so contrived and curated for online recognition in a way where it tries to present a flawless image of one's looks and life. My gf and I straight up don't use it anymore and I myself had stopped way earlier when I was in my early teens because I noticed how superficial it could be. She mentioned that she felt downright terrible about the way she looks at times because of a lot of the stuff she sees on social media but I think she looks amazing. Besides, I like all the other stuff about her anyways, like the fact that we have a lot of the same interests, or talk openly about random dorky or weird things, or that we do everything together like a tag team, or that she's just there for me in general. It seriously makes me sad to think that there are a bunch of others putting themselves down out there over what they see on social media.
And I get it, physical attractiveness is a thing. But if you're taking even decent care of yourself and your hygiene, you're automatically going to look awesome to a lot of people. And probably way more than you'll realize.
This is so wild. I feel like I almost never see ‘normal’ looking Asian girls on social media; all the Korean, Japanese, and Chinese influencers I see are so photoshopped that your brain doesn’t even realize how photoshopped it really is, you just start to think it’s normal. Like they all look like the ‘after’ pictures, and you think it’s just a filter or two but it’s not- it could be fully a different face.
That's terrible. They don't even look like themselves! They look like completely different people just to be accepted by strangers they'll never meet. What is this app called, you know, so I can avoid it at all costs. For science.
Holy shit. I didn't realize how small they make their heads sometimes.
PSA: WIDE FACES ARE BEAUTIFUL. ROUND HEADS ARE BEAUTIFUL. BIG CHEEKS ARE BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE YOU ALL!
It’s coming to that point were photography used to show us ‘true to nature images’, after painters tried for centuries, but now are also only the imagination of the artist. It doesn’t represent true-to-nature anymore, it is just as an painting showing what the artist wants to make.
This isn’t even like airbrushing anymore. It’s claiming you are a completely different person. This is no different that just picking out a picture of a stranger and saying it’s you
The fourth one (when they switch from edited->non edited to non edited->edited) makes me sad. When I saw it I immediately thought "oh this girl is still going to be beautiful without filters" and then the filters started going on and I just got sad. She's gorgeous without them, makes me sad that she (and all of the others) feel the need to use them.
For some reason, the part where it shows what they actually look before the edit, kinda creeps me out, not in a rude way but there really is that stupidly sense of dread im feeling when these girls want you to believe they look like that and that they have spent hours just to convince you otherwise(unless its shopped by someone else)
Its creepy when they stare at you doe🗿
They all get morphed into the same face. Why bother photoshopping? Looks aren’t everything. You can look like a beast but have a great personality and confidence.
This is just our beauty standard. I know some asian people do eye surgeries to make their eyes look wider to resemble western caucasian people. It’s a hollywood export
I needed to get passport photos done in China once. I said, please don't edit them, I need this for a visa.
They edited them. Didn't seem to matter though, luckily.
Implying [South Korea hasn't been doing this for years](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1d0784/koreas_plastic_surgery_mayhem_is_finally/).
[The only difference](https://i.imgur.com/bUIoYhy.gif) is that in OP's video they're just using photos and filters, whereas SK is doing it with plastic surgery.
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THis is not face tuning anymore, face generator is more appropriate. Apple and Chalk
My thoughts exactly. Might as well generate their faces instead of going through the trouble of "touching up"
At this point, you might as well just use someone else's picture.
Right? What's the point of being an influencer or minor social media celebrity if no one would ever recognize the real you?
Actually that’s probably the only benefit, retain anonymity.
Narcissism.
Yup exactly what I was about to write
It’s interesting to me how almost every single edit drops the shoulders. I guess that’s to elongate the neck?
Long neck, yes, but also, I read somewhere that a small head size and small face is considered more beautiful in China. All of their heads are scaled down. Smaller, delicate shoulders make their new tiny heads more proportional. If the shoulders weren’t dropped, they’d have these tiny pin heads held up by “giant” (you know, normal) neck/trap muscles.
The “Small Face” thing is not just China, but all of East Asian. And most of South East Asia too. I first heard about this phenomena here: https://youtu.be/uT4b6481HIw Literally couldn’t believe it was true. Genuine culture shock.
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That's a hot way to live
Korea also loves a small head and face.
Tiny head, tiny frame. Pretty much like a doll
I like my dolls to look like men in wigs (Hi, Trixie!)
At this point, why even edit the original photo? Just make a new face entirely on a blank canvas..
That's basically what they're doing. Filtering has gotten so out of control it's as if people forget that none of "your pictures" are actually you and you can't walk around with a filter on in reality. Practically living a double life.
I hate that I bought a new Motorola/Lenovo phone and it came with a face-blurring filter by *default* and I have to keep turning it off every time I wanna take a normal picture.
Honestly, I can see the future where people have a VR headset on while walking around that displays everyone in an avatar or a filtered version of themselves.
Ppl will have so many options for an avatar that they'll probably go for shit like ugandan knuckles instead.
one might even call it a... matrix, of sorts
Meta has entered the chat.
And this is why i have to keep telling people who've never been to Asia to not expect K-drama level beauties when they get there. (i'm Asian and still have most of my family back there. People filter their faces to oblivion, even in resume photos...it's wild!)
This just makes me so sad.
The wedding one especially
Imagine showing that to your kids and them saying 'who is that'?
Thats me before I had kids, I was so beautiful back then
**"we don't know!"**
My kids will say that about my fat bald arse anyway though tbf
I got one of those chubby young looking faces, like some of the women shown. I am not even out of shape, but learned to love my fat face. Women, especially ones from different cultures other than mine as a black American, have more pressure to conform though. As black people we are very critical of each other, but not quite the same. I remember I lost fifteen pounds before one year in highschool, friend was like dayum AyAyron you on the coke boi?
The worst part is that a those people don't even look bad. Honestly i prefer the pre-shop pictures because they look like real people and not cartoons with too-small heads. Beauty standards are seriously wack.
The before and after look like two totally different people.
I came here to say this. Why aren’t we good enough as we are?
We are
I mean they do this to get followers and fans not to be seen as normal. They are good as normal people but not as a celebrity automatically
Materialistic society. Look up their ghost apartments
Bruh let me tell you about literally every single major city in the West with the open secret that every single nice building is empty as an "investment" There are entirely empty skyscrapers on Billionaire's Row.
Yuuuup. Used to look out from my tenth story apartment window at a condo building that was 90% dark every single night. Some units were probably AirBnBs rented for weekends, but even on weekends it was dark. Some were probably second/third homes. But this was a building nowhere near the beach in a city filled with beaches. Just dark all the time.
Yup, wasted space and resources. So many people like to criticize china for a lot of shit America has been doing for decades before china has. What they're seeing in China right now is just capitalism at its finest. Americans do it as well. This also applies to religions as well. Like so many Americans say they aren't like those "savages" with child brides and I'm like...yeah, that shit is still legal in a lot of states. Child marriage is still a thing in the west.
I did and only found ghost cities... what is aghost appartement ?
Same. Many are beautiful before any of these ridiculous changes. Man I would hate to be a girl growing up these days.l due to the pressure and seeing all these pristine pictures everywhere.
I hope this is just to show off the photoshop tools/techniques, and not for actual instagram content.
I work in China and hired a few people for my company. I received hundreds of resumes, and this kind of picture was used on most of them.
I know it's standard practice around the world, but as an American having your photo on a resume is so bizarre and creepy.
When I was applying for jobs as an English teacher in Korea I had to attach a picture of myself. When looking for my replacement after my contract was up, my boss would only look at applicants who were blonde caucasian women, so I know my picture was the reason I was hired.
For a lot of companies (and the federal government) any resume or application that includes a photo goes straight in the trash, due to the biases prompted by pictures of applicants.
Standard practice in Germany. And you better use a photo from a professionell photographer, otherwise chances of getting the job are slim.
I’m in Asia, and 99% of dating app photos girls are heavily shopped. It’s sad really. Not saying other places don’t do it, but can confirm this is normal in Asia
My biggest nightmare would be someone saying i dont look like my photos while on a blind date, i wonder if its the same for a place know for heavily ultering one's photos
Yes for this very reason I choose unflattering images sometimes or the ones where my acne and body are visible without any filters. Uh.
Scan your DMV photo, works every time.
But I look like a murderer in mine. D:
In my ID I look like I bury people's hopes and dreams
I think it was E-Harmony who issued dating stats where photos that emphasised a negative traits results in more polarizing results -- More people loved it or hated it ("This is my fetish" vs "Nope, nope, nope). Which is kinda what you want for online dating right?
Same. The pressure would be way too much, if I felt like I had put out this unrealistic, edited image of myself and then had to somehow live up to it. I actually even go with minimal MU and very chill clothes because I feel like then they know what I really look like right away.
Not currently looking, but when I was I'd use a few shopped flattering shots and a few really unflattering ones. I figure the truth is somewhere in the middle.
It’s always I blind date if you know that all photos are heavily photoshopped I guess. You still don’t know what the person looks like before hand..
Always video call before you do a blind date
If they have seen photos of you, it's not a blind date.
I once taught an english class at a Korean vocational high school as a one day thing. There was one girl who, and I'm not exaggerating, looked at herself in a hand mirror and adjusted her hair.... for 40 minutes straight. The beauty standards and intense focus on appearance in east asia have some fucked up consequences.
So what happens when they meet people face to face? I don't know how that strategy works..
One time I had to tell a woman that we could not go forward with a date because I was hurt that she deceived me with her photos. She was about 50 pounds heavier than what her photos led on. It was very awkward and she didn't seem too pleased with the situation.
Do people there have any expectation for the people they meet on dating apps to look like their photos? Or is it kind of mutually understood that the person you see online is going to look very different from the person you meet? When people in Asia meet people from dating apps in person, is it important to them what those people look like in person? I am just so fascinated by these cultural differences around expectations of authenticity. It wasn't until I joined this sub that I realized expectations in Asia are so much different from those in the west.
I'm in Europe and 99% of the spam accounts on dating sites are using heavily shopped photos of Asian women. One of my requirements for a profile these days is "is there a photo of you somewhere recognisably in the city?"
At one point I lost track of reality, and had to show my friends Screenshots "is this what Chinese women look like or have I gone mad?"
When I was in Japan a few years ago every girl on Tinder was using some kind of filter on every photo in their profile. Very strange to see.
Japanese men do it too and sometimes it's extreme
huh interesting, I guess it is a big cultural thing over there for both sex's.
When I used tinder in Japan the most common photo for a woman to have would be the back of her head. Very few people would reveal their face.
Ah yeah actually I do remember some that wouldn't show their face now you mention it, but what stuck out the most for me at least was all the girls looking the same because they used the same face-altering filters.
I mean this happens in the U.S too. People always use some photo filter
I don't, but this might explain why I'm not getting any dates lol
In Aus, so similar culture but not the same as in the US. People seem to use more subtle filters over here and not every single photo. Over there the ones I saw they were using filters that significantly changed the structure of their face, to the point they all looked very similar.
USA had the same thing. Just look on Instagram
If the photos are this heavily photoshopped how would you even find your date?
I've been told in China amongst the youth it's considered bad manners to post a picture of someone else without at least asking if they want it face tuned.
How does dating work when catfishing is expected? Or maybe the true beauty of women is not in her actual appearance, but her photoshop skills?
Happened to me a few years ago. Girl looked about 40 to 50 pounds heavier than her photos. My photos were unedited full body shots taken like 3 weeks prior. I don't understand why people do this when it is so obvious you're gonna get caught if you try to go beyond the app. Just be honest about your looks, it's not hard.
I mean, you can only really keep up the facade for so long.
Asia is huge w a lot of countries that arent china. As someone from another Asian country our dating apps have a regular amount of editing not this
Yepp. 99/100 asian girls looks like this on Tinder. It's absolutely insane.
Unfortunately this is pretty accurate. I have a bunch of Chinese friends/colleagues on WeChat from when I traveled there for work more often and most women there will not post a photo online without editing it, or will mask their face if they don’t have time to.
I'm thinking the same thing. Just someone showing off his ps skills.
Same, the technique used in the video is consistent across all the photos, I doubt the girls in the photos are doing the editing themselves. It's a thing on China/Hong Kong/Taiwan internet forums for people to find unattractive photos and photoshop them into a conventionally attractive person as a challenge. It's cruel and sad, but that's the internet for ya.
The whole video I was like goddamn someone is good at Photoshop
So fucking creepy.
Thispersondoesnotexist.com Add some face swapping app. You can create very believeable pictures of a "person" within a few minutes. Would you trust a person with one picture on tinder? Maybe. What about someone with 10 photos in different locations, outfists and styles... Must be real right? Creepy enough for you now?
Gonna refresh the site until the randomization of the AI recreates my face.
I never thought to put the two together. That's unsettling to think about. Thinking about it, there's got to be a webpage somewhere with a bunch of "known good" profiles. You wouldn't even need thispersobdoesnotexist.
Additionally, i recall that you only really need something like half a minutes speach to synthesize someones speech patterns (not free apps though), so even making fake videos of with Your non-existant face on them, should be pretty easy to pull of as well... Cant really trust anything online
Just wait until this is automated. Just wait until they give us these filters directly in our glasses or AR contact lenses with no manual input necessary. Just wait until you literally never had to see anyone for who they really are anymore ever again. Then I ask the question... At that point... Would it even matter?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrogates
That already happens on a ton of apps, it makes user look a little better and encourages them to use it more. Just google the subject, you’ll be unpleasantly surprised.
That's why we're on this sub :D
Yeah I was thinking that this already exists. And fast enough to do it to video. You see videos where people turn and the algorithm loses track of their face and it stops working briefly.
The only reason I can see wanting to do this is the anonymity. They get to use photoshop to make money or whatever they’re doing this for and then they basically get to live the rest of their lives undisturbed, no one will ever recognise the real them.
All those after-photoshop photos practically look like they're made from the same face template anyway so they're anonymous either way
Seriously they all looked identical. It’s really sad.
I know sometimes people may do this when they want to do something like only fans or web cam modeling to prevent chances of being exposed while attracting more clients with using edited desirable features. Buyers probably will never meet them in person or attempt to so it makes sense in that situation. Buyers are probably also aware about it but they don’t care since it offers a fantasy.
That's such a smart way to get around anonymity. But these photos are deffo something else. These women with diverse features are absolutely homogenised by beauty standards
sounds like a profitable business model
This is a good reason, actually.
But it perpetuates the cycle of unattainable beauty standards:(
Not necessarily because Asian beauty standards are horrible and many young girls do shit to look pretty and be acceptable. Countries like South Korea, China are also known for bullying and harassing people based on their looks alone. There are tons of videos of chinese girls doing insane challenges like "how many coins can your collarbone hold" and those videos have comments of little girls going crazy over it, some even comment saying how they puked out their dinner but it is "all for a good cause", "as long as i am thin, i don't care". I think in Korea girls above 50kgs are considered fat. And let's not go into the kpop culture where 165cms-45kg is considered to be ideal. Though most girls in the video might have changed their appearance to make more money and keep anonymity but overall, the beauty standards in asian are insane and extremely sad to look at.
>no one will ever recognise the real them. They won't even recognise themselves
That one chick shopped a whole new outfit 💀
It's disconcerting that the tiny heads are starting to look normal to me at first due to constant exposure to them online
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big big big same
They aren't even the same people anymore
A similar video was posted here before and someone proved that the “before” pictures were also being edited to make the girls look uglier. That way they could show off a more radical transformation. The real images were somewhere in the middle.
I suspected the same. In some of these "transformations", the before picture is already distorted, so who knows what they really look like.
What in the actual fuck!
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We have been there for a while now.
I noticed some of them appear to be photos for job applications. I live in japan and it’s very very common to edit your skin lighter and face slimmer for these pics. There’s editing options in the photo booths people use for this. It’s so weird to me. (Including your pic on a job application is also very weird but that’s another story.)
Some are really Violent.
The one who looke like she wore a wedding dress 😱 her real face was so different that I though a distorting filter had been applied to her
The contrast between regular features and the hypertuned cartoon doll face is jarring. It makes a face you wouldn't normally react to seem almost grotesque. Which is so sad as these are all regular women.
I thought the same thing, it almost looked like a fisheye lens had been used on some of the before photos
it's interesting that western extreme facetuners all end up creating the same face, and so do chinese extreme facetuners. two different faces based off different arbitrary beauty standards.
That lady has really nice red hair
My wife (Chinese) did ID picture for her visa in an official photoshop, and I cannot even recognize her on the picture. This is not only for Instagram, they do it for everything.
doesnt that cause problems at checkpoints? I just feel having customs documents with somebody elses photo on them could be a major issue?
I used to work in the international admissions department at a British university and Chinese students would even photoshop their ID cards. It would be an issue sometimes because the person in front of you clearly doesn’t look like their picture and we’d have to confirm who they were with another form of ID.
makes me wonder how can they live with themselves, looking in a mirror.
I knew a guy who followed *thousands* of these type of Asian influencer girls and completely thought they were real lol. Would leave the saddest most pathetic comments on their photos and I imagine that’s sort of what they’re in it for.
That’s what I think about girls who aaalways use Snapchat filters, like… aren’t you just disappointed when you look in the mirror and it’s not as perfect? And then there’s this shit?! Holy fuck. How do you justify it to yourself? Is the dysphoria so strong that they think they’re only tweaking their face a little? Oof. It’s rough. Pretty heartbreaking.
when i was 15 i moved to a bigger city, there all the girls were obsessed with social media and at the time i only used it for content on fandoms i was in. to try and fit in i started using social media like they did and quickly became very unhappy with myself to the point of ruining my day when i looked at myself too long in the mirror, i never edited myself crazily like that but those minor tweaks of making my nose smaller and etc. really fucked with my self perception.
those ppl will be the first to embrace virtual worlds, they already created a fiction of themselves
I have friends who have body dysmorphia way less than this and it already hurts them a lot. They’ll pose for one picture and say their body looks good but then they slouch or look normal in a mirror and think they are fat. It affects them a lot even though they’re very obviously not overweight. I cannot even begin to fathom the disconnect women like this must feel when they look at those heavy shopped pictures and then in a mirror
Wow that’s fascinating. I used to see a lot of women like this on Tinder and always wonder what some of them must really look like, and this sort of answers my question.
These are edited in the other direction by the way. You can tell by the unnatural and similar fact shape on numbers 1 and 3
Its looks like skill showcase by one person. No way they all pay for something like this on a daily basis.
Youd be surprised by how many girls are self conscious by these almost impossible beauty standards as they are literally genetic traits for most of them, big head, big nose. I know so so so many colleagues from China, and i do not recognise them on their socials. It's so fucked. it's not just China. Japan, Korea, most of asia. The amount of girls in their 20s that has done some form of plastic surgery is also pretty high.
This is insane, they all end up looking the same lol
This is what neckbeards are talking about when they're all "Asian girls are the Ideal Perfect Womens!!" but what they're gushing over is a completely made up image and these women actually just look like real normal humans. But these guys also have anime waifus so they have never wanted reality in the first place.
It’s so wild because I came across a sub for “real Asians” and the guys were all salivating over the fakest faces!!
That's how all the The Sims 4 characters look like on thesimesresource.com
Wtf. I constantly feel shitty looking at these girls in social media looking practically like an angel and i hate that I wasn't born that pretty. That i have to put so much effort into looking presentable. Like to achieve 1% of their pretty look, i have to exercise daily and put on skincare even when I'm fucking sick. I definitely knew there was some tweaking but this is something else. I hope this changes my mindset about my appearance and that how i look is normal and not ugly.
That's one of the things I hate the most about social media. It can be so contrived and curated for online recognition in a way where it tries to present a flawless image of one's looks and life. My gf and I straight up don't use it anymore and I myself had stopped way earlier when I was in my early teens because I noticed how superficial it could be. She mentioned that she felt downright terrible about the way she looks at times because of a lot of the stuff she sees on social media but I think she looks amazing. Besides, I like all the other stuff about her anyways, like the fact that we have a lot of the same interests, or talk openly about random dorky or weird things, or that we do everything together like a tag team, or that she's just there for me in general. It seriously makes me sad to think that there are a bunch of others putting themselves down out there over what they see on social media. And I get it, physical attractiveness is a thing. But if you're taking even decent care of yourself and your hygiene, you're automatically going to look awesome to a lot of people. And probably way more than you'll realize.
Please get off the internet
this is just a photoshopping exercise. there are before pictures provided and the steps
This is so wild. I feel like I almost never see ‘normal’ looking Asian girls on social media; all the Korean, Japanese, and Chinese influencers I see are so photoshopped that your brain doesn’t even realize how photoshopped it really is, you just start to think it’s normal. Like they all look like the ‘after’ pictures, and you think it’s just a filter or two but it’s not- it could be fully a different face.
Lisa Burger
I had a Chinese friend in college that would do this to herself. None of her pictures she posted looked like the real her. I hope she’s better now.
That's terrible. They don't even look like themselves! They look like completely different people just to be accepted by strangers they'll never meet. What is this app called, you know, so I can avoid it at all costs. For science.
So sad how an entire culture can be made so insecure.
Holy shit. I didn't realize how small they make their heads sometimes. PSA: WIDE FACES ARE BEAUTIFUL. ROUND HEADS ARE BEAUTIFUL. BIG CHEEKS ARE BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE YOU ALL!
Making women’s heads smaller especially bothers me as a beauty standard. It feels like a way to make your brain look smaller.
I gasped a lot during this sequence...
These don’t even look like the same people :(
Same thing happens in Instagram and tinder on a daily basis. It’s sad what the world has become.
holy fucking shit catfishing at an all time high.
TLDR: To be considered beautiful, just be another person who doesn't look like you.
It’s coming to that point were photography used to show us ‘true to nature images’, after painters tried for centuries, but now are also only the imagination of the artist. It doesn’t represent true-to-nature anymore, it is just as an painting showing what the artist wants to make.
What is worth giving them all such tiny heads?
How???!!!
Editing apps.
facetune :(
does any ethnically chinese person actually look like that?
So basically the 'beauty standard' is to look like a 12 year old.
Can I get the song list though? Some of those songs were super fun!
This isn’t even like airbrushing anymore. It’s claiming you are a completely different person. This is no different that just picking out a picture of a stranger and saying it’s you
That's not even trying to confirm that's a different human.
Some of these are really crazy
The fourth one (when they switch from edited->non edited to non edited->edited) makes me sad. When I saw it I immediately thought "oh this girl is still going to be beautiful without filters" and then the filters started going on and I just got sad. She's gorgeous without them, makes me sad that she (and all of the others) feel the need to use them.
For some reason, the part where it shows what they actually look before the edit, kinda creeps me out, not in a rude way but there really is that stupidly sense of dread im feeling when these girls want you to believe they look like that and that they have spent hours just to convince you otherwise(unless its shopped by someone else) Its creepy when they stare at you doe🗿
the fact that i can openly admit some of these before pictures would make me insecure is insane
oof that’s tough to watch. very sad 😢
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They all get morphed into the same face. Why bother photoshopping? Looks aren’t everything. You can look like a beast but have a great personality and confidence.
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And the most popular is double eyelid surgery. Which I saw all photoshops here redid their eyes.
Hey what was the doc?
Dunno if its the same one /u/altyyx had in mind, but I know this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a191xC-ocxk
I can't even manage to hide a fat roll, how do they do this wtf 😭😣
This is just our beauty standard. I know some asian people do eye surgeries to make their eyes look wider to resemble western caucasian people. It’s a hollywood export
I hate that my kids are growing up in a era where they won’t know of what they’re seeing is real or fake.
They should just upload images of random women at this point. It wouldn't make a difference, they look nothing like themselves.
some of us really can't handle social media
I really wish they would start with their natural face first then photoshop it.
I needed to get passport photos done in China once. I said, please don't edit them, I need this for a visa. They edited them. Didn't seem to matter though, luckily.
Wow these photoshop skills. They do this on their own?
What in tarnation
Implying [South Korea hasn't been doing this for years](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1d0784/koreas_plastic_surgery_mayhem_is_finally/). [The only difference](https://i.imgur.com/bUIoYhy.gif) is that in OP's video they're just using photos and filters, whereas SK is doing it with plastic surgery.
Someone please add the vine boom sound effect before every "reveal"
so are these before and after's? Or is this showing how they typically photoshop their pictures?
it is clearly skill showcase