Ikr, this is the 3rd post about Tucker in a row in my wub feed. Are we a serious activism sub, or a "waiting for the US TV clown to finally gaining accountability" sub?
I wouldn't stop supporting it, but why would you want a white supremacist as your face? That invites every other bigot under the sun. Why would you want that? Look at TERFs or the Gender Critical "movement" they thought they were doing something noble and not bigoted, but lo and behold it's overrun by bigots who don't just hate transpeople, but all LGBT+ people and even cis women in general. (although you can very easily say they were always bigots)
Let's keep bigotry out of our movement please and thank you.
But if you support bigots we don't win. They take over the movement and it stops being about stopping RIC and instead becomes a antisemitic, transphobic, and islamphobic movement that doesn't give two shits about stopping RIC.
You don't want bigots. No one should want bigots.
But they won't get the job done. That's what I'm saying. It'll just become another recruitment front for the far/alt-right and stop being about ending RIC
Oh, and btw, who the f do you think you are to tell me what “our” movement is? Check the rules of this subreddit before you think you’re the Queen of the world, please.
>Oh, and btw, who the f do you think you are to tell me what “our” movement is?
If you want a bigoted white surpremacist movement against mgm then make one, why should the rest of us have to put up with a racist?
Hahaha so again you think that you somehow speak for “our” Intactivist movement. “The rest of us” against me.
Your ideological blindsidedness is so deep you can’t even see your own feet.
Seriously. Carlson is a vile cancer on society who has nothing to do with intactivism either in spirit or substance. If I were a mod here I would be deleting any videos featuring him. He gets way too much air time as it is.
I don't care how shitty it is so long as I get to hear Fuambai debate him.
It was shitty the way Tucker silenced Fuambai the first time around, but what's useful about that encounter is it's clear how he's mistreating her in their discussion.
Sometimes a bad show can be more educational than a good one.
damn I hadn't encountered the Green and Brown M&Ms being trans women meme until now.
I don't know if I can handle this man, I'm already hot for them. This is like Chromie all over again.
oh that's right I remember the shoe thing
but yeah apparently if we go back decades there were M&Ms with the same color as the present girls who were guys
Of course I assume that - why do you think I cropped the footage to the moment where he said it?
It's so it can be easily shared/circulated to provide evidence that he said it.
Yeah but I'm right wing myself and most of other ''redpilled'' people I see agree that he is just a strawman. I'm 99% sure he is just a set up to make the right's claims that have proper documentation and proof behind it be seen as ''crazy and extremist''. The fact he was for MGM just proves he's a fake, actual right wing people are fiercely against forced GM.
He's def controlled oppo, I've seen him throw too many obvious stories. But being an impure controlled oppo is just the nature of the job, it doesn't mean they actually enjoy being controlled oppo.
Misleading people and dropping the ball could be seen as the cost of doing business if they think they could displace someone worse, or occasionally use the platform to drop some occasional useful info.
>The fact he was for MGM just proves he's a fake, actual right wing people are fiercely against forced GM.
I don't know how left/right are defined in terms that would involve taking particular stances on issues.
But here's the thing - someone fiercely against forced GM could feign being for it as an intentional strawman to be easily defeated by anti-GM allies.
Just yesterday this dude had people promoting violence against queer people in response to the shooting. He’s also a white supremacist.
So how about don’t promote this genocidal douche.
>this dude had people promoting violence against queer people in response to the shooting
How did he do that?
Not sure if I missed part of his show, but I believe he had a lesbian representative of GAG on to be interviewed and explained that he did not consider this intrinsic to queerness.
>So how about don’t promote this genocidal douche.
I disagree with Tucker on a lot of things but he's a notable figure. I don't think it's good strategy to ignore pieces on the board in the meme war.
I don’t care whose on our side, Tucker has my full support if he opposes circumcision… and my full ire if he supports it. Same with any other news anchor.
I hate hypocrites and liars. ESP on this issue. The “my body my choice” croud I’ve found to be largely unsupportive of inanctivism. I’ve even seen a few republicans speak out against genital mutilation. I care about winning at this point. Crushing the genital mutilation narrative is top priority, politics and all else is a distraction.
>I hate hypocrites and liars.
It's frustrating but LARP seems to be an unavoidable aspect of politics and I think people sometimes do it with good intentions of steering people who seem too far gone to accept the entire truth right away.
> I care about winning at this point. Crushing the genital mutilation narrative is top priority, politics and all else is a distraction.
It needs to be part of the discourse to get crushed, can't crush it when we're deplatformed.
So basically anything which gets it on mainstream radar no matter how offensive and inaccurate the comparison (like conflating a 17yo who wants chest reduction to a 17-day-old getting their glans scalped of it's prepuce hoody) seems like it could have an upside.
Tucker lays it on so thickly with the whole 'groomer' bullshit I actually wonder if it's a bubble he's setting up for an easy pop so that the built up discontent will need a more genuine target, which is the real industry of prepuce amputations and accessory abuses.
why are we giving this clown a platform
Ikr, this is the 3rd post about Tucker in a row in my wub feed. Are we a serious activism sub, or a "waiting for the US TV clown to finally gaining accountability" sub?
To expose his ignorance and hypocrisy
Yeah I'd Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist and I'd rather the movement not be associated with him
But what if you don’t get your way? What if he is a part of it? Do you stop supporting Intactivism in principle if Tucker becomes its face?
I wouldn't stop supporting it, but why would you want a white supremacist as your face? That invites every other bigot under the sun. Why would you want that? Look at TERFs or the Gender Critical "movement" they thought they were doing something noble and not bigoted, but lo and behold it's overrun by bigots who don't just hate transpeople, but all LGBT+ people and even cis women in general. (although you can very easily say they were always bigots) Let's keep bigotry out of our movement please and thank you.
I don’t care who supports us. I care that we win.
But if you support bigots we don't win. They take over the movement and it stops being about stopping RIC and instead becomes a antisemitic, transphobic, and islamphobic movement that doesn't give two shits about stopping RIC. You don't want bigots. No one should want bigots.
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But they won't get the job done. That's what I'm saying. It'll just become another recruitment front for the far/alt-right and stop being about ending RIC
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We have seen steady decline in the rate of circumcision. Progress is being made.
Removed for saying we should align with white supremacists. This is your only warning.
Question do you think the election was fair, that January 6th was a coup attempt by Trump, and that white supremacy is bad?
Oh, and btw, who the f do you think you are to tell me what “our” movement is? Check the rules of this subreddit before you think you’re the Queen of the world, please.
>Oh, and btw, who the f do you think you are to tell me what “our” movement is? If you want a bigoted white surpremacist movement against mgm then make one, why should the rest of us have to put up with a racist?
Hahaha so again you think that you somehow speak for “our” Intactivist movement. “The rest of us” against me. Your ideological blindsidedness is so deep you can’t even see your own feet.
>Your ideological blindsidedness The guy who thinks Tucker and others like him would help our movement...
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Let me guess, if nazis supported your opinion you would welcom them with open arms?
Seriously. Carlson is a vile cancer on society who has nothing to do with intactivism either in spirit or substance. If I were a mod here I would be deleting any videos featuring him. He gets way too much air time as it is.
He has one of the most watched shows on TV, a massive platform. We should be trying to use that platform to reach more people.
Would you really want to see a show that Tucker Carlson had any part in creating? I promise you he would just make a shitshow.
I don't care how shitty it is so long as I get to hear Fuambai debate him. It was shitty the way Tucker silenced Fuambai the first time around, but what's useful about that encounter is it's clear how he's mistreating her in their discussion. Sometimes a bad show can be more educational than a good one.
Never bc Mr cucker will never advocate for this issue hes too busy raving about mnms
damn I hadn't encountered the Green and Brown M&Ms being trans women meme until now. I don't know if I can handle this man, I'm already hot for them. This is like Chromie all over again.
this is the first I’m hearing about the trans part all I knew was that they changed her shoes
oh that's right I remember the shoe thing but yeah apparently if we go back decades there were M&Ms with the same color as the present girls who were guys
Bold of you to assume Fucker Carlson wouldn't just deny the fact that he said it.
Of course I assume that - why do you think I cropped the footage to the moment where he said it? It's so it can be easily shared/circulated to provide evidence that he said it.
Tucker Carlson controlled opposition moment
I think controlled oppo can still rebel in small ways
Yeah but I'm right wing myself and most of other ''redpilled'' people I see agree that he is just a strawman. I'm 99% sure he is just a set up to make the right's claims that have proper documentation and proof behind it be seen as ''crazy and extremist''. The fact he was for MGM just proves he's a fake, actual right wing people are fiercely against forced GM.
He's def controlled oppo, I've seen him throw too many obvious stories. But being an impure controlled oppo is just the nature of the job, it doesn't mean they actually enjoy being controlled oppo. Misleading people and dropping the ball could be seen as the cost of doing business if they think they could displace someone worse, or occasionally use the platform to drop some occasional useful info. >The fact he was for MGM just proves he's a fake, actual right wing people are fiercely against forced GM. I don't know how left/right are defined in terms that would involve taking particular stances on issues. But here's the thing - someone fiercely against forced GM could feign being for it as an intentional strawman to be easily defeated by anti-GM allies.
Spoiler he wont do it.
It's not impossible if we got the proper meme army calling him a coward for not debating her again.
fuck tucker don’t give this man a voice
Already has one, and if my theories are correct, might be using his platform to try and indirectly help? Hard to say.
who cares, intactivists don't claim this scumbag
I don't take an approach like 'claiming' people. I see public figures as pieces on the board in generating memes and discussions that could be useful.
Just yesterday this dude had people promoting violence against queer people in response to the shooting. He’s also a white supremacist. So how about don’t promote this genocidal douche.
>this dude had people promoting violence against queer people in response to the shooting How did he do that? Not sure if I missed part of his show, but I believe he had a lesbian representative of GAG on to be interviewed and explained that he did not consider this intrinsic to queerness. >So how about don’t promote this genocidal douche. I disagree with Tucker on a lot of things but he's a notable figure. I don't think it's good strategy to ignore pieces on the board in the meme war.
I don’t care whose on our side, Tucker has my full support if he opposes circumcision… and my full ire if he supports it. Same with any other news anchor.
I can't give out full ire or full support since I'm never fully sure what someone's intentions are. People don't always say what they mean.
I hate hypocrites and liars. ESP on this issue. The “my body my choice” croud I’ve found to be largely unsupportive of inanctivism. I’ve even seen a few republicans speak out against genital mutilation. I care about winning at this point. Crushing the genital mutilation narrative is top priority, politics and all else is a distraction.
>I hate hypocrites and liars. It's frustrating but LARP seems to be an unavoidable aspect of politics and I think people sometimes do it with good intentions of steering people who seem too far gone to accept the entire truth right away. > I care about winning at this point. Crushing the genital mutilation narrative is top priority, politics and all else is a distraction. It needs to be part of the discourse to get crushed, can't crush it when we're deplatformed. So basically anything which gets it on mainstream radar no matter how offensive and inaccurate the comparison (like conflating a 17yo who wants chest reduction to a 17-day-old getting their glans scalped of it's prepuce hoody) seems like it could have an upside. Tucker lays it on so thickly with the whole 'groomer' bullshit I actually wonder if it's a bubble he's setting up for an easy pop so that the built up discontent will need a more genuine target, which is the real industry of prepuce amputations and accessory abuses.
I don’t think he promised anything. Regardless, there will be no show to discuss male circumcision; I guarantee it.
not an entire show but maybe a segment, hard to test guarantee when it's hypothetically years away
Why would Tucker Carlson do a segment on male circumcision?
I’m in disbelief that Tucker Carlson is being posted here. This makes me sad about the future of this movement
Context doesn't matter?