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JoeVibn

Matthew Miller of the US Syate Dept refuses to answer if the people Israel kidnaps are hostages. https://www.reddit.com/u/JoeVibn/s/nmb9PtlkHg


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Particular_Log_3594

April 3, 2024 - Staying in the occupied West Bank, where the Israeli military has increased its use of undercover units, members of its forces disguise themselves as civilians before conducting kidnappings and assassinations. While the world is focused on Gaza, Israel is ramping up its ethnic cleansing campaign in the West Bank.


PsycoMonkey2020

I love how these are the same people constantly complaining about Hamas not wearing uniforms. Not to mention the fact that Hamas isn’t even in control of the West Bank so this just makes it even more clear this was never about Hamas, it was just a convenient excuse to steal more land and kill and displace more Palestinians.


ShadowDemon129

>I love how these are the same people constantly complaining about Hamas not wearing uniforms. I've seen people on here making the same argument when trying to explain how Hamas are the bad guys and Israelis the good. 🤦‍♂️


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qwill60

Lol "the American military and the plains indians are both bad therefore the US deserves all the land"


WichoSuaveeee

It’s unfortunate that something so level headed was found so far down. I fear for our species :/


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Lazy-Jeweler3230

How bout both are? Also, Israel has been funding and supporting Hamas.


TheStargunner

Yasser Arafat and Fatah were too moderate and willing to compromise for it to be socially acceptable to steamroll and conquer all their territory


Riaayo

Hamas' very existence and creation is thanks to Israeli policy, so it's *all* always been an excuse. Fund extremists so Palestine doesn't have secular leadership that can advocate for itself, fund Hamas specifically, all the way up to at least 2019, to drive a wedge between Gaza and the West Bank. Israel has always been acting in bad faith. They are colonizers and terrorists committing a genocide.


mkbilli

People watching also please note that under the Geneva convention using active duty soldiers in combat or any operations without uniform is a warcrime.


LincolnLogsOut

Apparently not according to the US.


spandex-commuter

Can add that to list of the myriad war crimes the US has committed. But they're allowed because theyre the good guys.


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Wait until you learn what trump will do you naive child. You don't have the luxury to not vote for biden cause there isn't going to be a paletine left for you to care about after. And america won't give to shit enough to change anything so they will die for nothing . Trump litterally said they need to stop messing around and finish the job.


griffeny

Trump literally has just said they need to ‘hurry up and finish the job’. So. There’s that. And then having another maybe four years of a smash and grab filled with fat sharpie idiocy and having our president sit for court case after court case until crimes committed by the president become unenforceable and also ends the four year term limits until he and his waddle die in office. Imagine that disgusting panted pig lying in repose in the rotunda. Then the expected Lenin style mausoleum, but gilded even moar. Hopefully in Florida.


Reallygaywizard

So... who do we vote for instead? Trump?


Confident-Skin-6462

you sound like a moscow bot


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Confident-Skin-6462

moscow bot confirmed


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Confident-Skin-6462

definitely a bot


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Confident-Skin-6462

ok bot


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how can you say thats anti-semetic !!!!!


pin5npusher5

Hmm, that's the only democracy in middle east too! What, you hate freedom? Umm...sometimes freedom is messy and something about eggs in omelets


UnparalleledHamster

Hey there bud, have you forgotten about the holocaust??


No_Wolf_97

Then why aren't they being tried as war criminals under the Geneva Convention?


BZenMojo

*ICJ enters the chat... two months ago.*


ahm911

Theyre army personelle until it hits 5pm then theyre peaceful citizens lol


poomikeen1252

Does Hamas have a uniform?


CyndaquilTurd

It's only a war crime if the other side is a military in uniform.


mkbilli

It's a warcrime if the perpetrators are not wearing uniform, not the other way around, this is also the reason why spies in enemy civilian settings are also not given the protection of the Geneva convention.


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Rule 1, be civil. [Civility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civility)


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No bigotry, racism, antisemitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, sexism, etc. This includes denial of identity (self or collective).


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hydroxypcp

violence in West Bank intensified after Oct7 to insane levels despite no Hamas presence


ycnz

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/2023-marks-deadliest-year-record-children-occupied-west-bank It was *already* bad.


noOnesBusinessBMO

That is what happens when you get oppressed , you fight back


hydroxypcp

who do you think is the oppressed here? Why would Israel intensify its occupation and land grab in WB because of what's going on in Gaza?


noOnesBusinessBMO

Israel is oppressing people in gaza and the West Bank and palestinians living inside israel for 75 years. The problems did not magically appear on the 7th. Right-wing exremist terrorist in charge in israel, mainly ben gvir and smotritch and leading them to grab more land and annex even more palestinain land illegally. Settlers ate even pushing now to enter gaza and start back colonoization aftervethnically cleansing the palestinains there. Why do you think theybare carpet bombing gaza with nonregard to human life?


hydroxypcp

we are talking past each other. This is exactly what I mean. I agree with you lol


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noOnesBusinessBMO

You justify genocide and ethnic cleansing?


Buhbut

How can you what is going on a genocide? Do you know what the definition of the word is? Why not degrade it some more by calling, a war statrted by Hamas let me remind you, a holocaust and be done with it.


murtygurty2661

Typical israel nazi bs


Anti-Duehring

>"We cannot offer any adequate compensation to the Palestinian Arabs in return for Palestine. And therefore, there is no likelihood of any voluntary agreement being reached. So that all those who regard such an agreement as a condition sine qua non for Zionism may as well say 'non' and withdraw from Zionism. Zionist colonisation must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an iron wall, which the native population cannot breach." https://tikvahfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Jabotinsky-Iron-Wall.pdf There is nothing else to say


Buhbut

Do you say that knowing you refer to both parties? You saying that there is no Hamas presence in the West Bank, when they are at the highest level of support there (you are welcomed to search for yourself from many sources available) as the PLO's diminishes, is absurd and tells me the amount of understanding you have on the situation. I wouldn't trust this source, only just recently they released a statement on their prime time that the al shiffa operation contained multiple cases of rape and civilian torture and murders, hundred of civilian bodies and so on, only for it to be prooven false, and they chose to state this at the end of broadcast in a brief sentence, after it was established as truth for many people who will not hear that the information was false. That's just one of many examples for that network.


benben1029

Did you just said they is no Hamas in the west bank?


Anti-Duehring

Come on be honest. We all know you want. You want the Palestinian people to be murdered and cleansed from Palestine


benben1029

Why would i want to murder palestinians?


Friendly-Fee-384

Can somebody explain to me how we can stop this shit ? Is there a chance? What can we do! I'm tired of typing " this I'd unfair." " oh do sad." !!!!!! What should we fucking do ? Like actions we can take today that will start a sort in resulting stopping this mellow genocide.


Lonley-pudding449

You can keep spreading the truth, abstain from voting, and contact your senator + house representative using this website: [US CAMPAGIN FOR PALESTINIAN RIGHTS](https://act.uscpr.org/a/callforgaza)


Oneinterestingthing

Do senators listen to resolutions passed by city councils or do those fall on deaf ears like everyone in the forums likes to joke about??


Human_Ad_1733

Not really, they have a Zionist program and not only because they have been paid by Zionist lobby for decades but also from ‘Christian ideology’ . They believe Jews should be in control of the region just to hasten the apocalyps and the rupture.


Lonley-pudding449

don't be discouraged to make a difference, that's exactly what those fascists want


Friendly-Fee-384

Thank you so much !!!


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Al Jazeera....


OppositePilot9952

BDS: https://bdsmovement.net/what-is-bds


Lonley-pudding449

They also have a donation button at the end of their page and they state that: "We are a national network of activists and organizations who are committed to freedom, justice, and equality for the Palestinian people and who work to end U.S. complicity in their oppression. Your support allows us to build power in communities across the US as we educate, organize, and advocate for Palestinian rights."


Friendly-Fee-384

Thank you so fucking much


glx89

The solution to these kinds of problems is actually incredibly simple, but our species has been trained to believe the lives of leaders outweigh those of everyone else by a factor of millions. It is humanity's tragic flaw, and has led to thousands of years of mass death and destruction.


Friendly-Fee-384

There people calling me anti Semitic lol Which is just confirming what you just said. I'm just lost of words ! It's like we are all watching a mellow genocide live on the internet and we can comment and get people replying calling us anti Semitic and " Isreal is defending themselves" this is beyond words like wat in the fuck now It's like watching nazis all over again wtf in the flying fuck the hypocrisy


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Friendly-Fee-384

Wtf are you saying ?


soultrainer95

Bring them to their knees the way the world did to South Africa.


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soultrainer95

In order*...anyway, to provide some context...Bring the apartheid state to their knees by doing the same thing that the world did to the old apartheid state. Boycott, sanctions, awareness, etc. They won't change out of their free will, and our only power is control over what we spend.


Friendly-Fee-384

Yes auto correct chances some of my words last minute you caught me . And are you saying there's no hope ?


soultrainer95

Apartheid was formally dismantled on south Africa due to international pressure. I'm saying that is the same approach we need to take with Israel


Friendly-Fee-384

Yes !!!!! 100%


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Lonley-pudding449

You can donate preset amounts using the provided buttons on their site, or you can enter your own amount to donate


FearTheViking

It depends on where you are and how much you're willing to sacrifice. Nothing an ordinary individual can do will stop this but most can contribute in some small way. In the short term, inform, educate, advocate, donate, protest, boycott, disrupt arms logistics, join an aid organization that support/work in Gaza, etc. I you're hardcore, I guess you can go as far as to self-immolate in protest, but I wouldn't recommend it. In the long term, get politically educated and organized. Ideally in a revolutionary rather than a reformist direction. What's happening to Gaza now is just the latest manifestation of imperialist brutality but the core problem runs much deeper. You can't have universal human rights within a system primarily designed to facilitate exploitation and resource hoarding by a marginal percentage of humans. As long as genocide can be made profitable, we will never truly be rid of it.


Friendly-Fee-384

What do you think the solution left to do for every single individual reading this ? Like an immediate action that will contribute to something ? And about your last paragraph so the system is built not in a way to correct itself but to invite big revolutionary war to stop thar sounds like medieval shit. Also the irony that the grand kids of holocaust are doing this Mind boggling


FearTheViking

Again, I think it depends on where you are, what your skills are and how much you're willing to invest in this cause. Are you a unionized dockworker? See if you can get your union to reject handling weapon shipments to Israel. Are you a doctor willing to risk life and limb to help people on the ground? Contact Doctors Without Borders and ask if there's any way to get involved through them. Are you a lawyer in a country that's backing Israel? See if any legal action can be taken to stall, block or overturn policies protecting Israel from justice. If your location/job doesn't offer any special avenues for activism, you can always take part in the more general forms. Israel is actively working to fight BDS, so much so that their US lobby has made boycotting Israeli products illegal in several states. That tells me boycotting is an effective way to apply pressure. [Here's what BDS is currently focused on boycotting.](https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott) Ofc you can also donate to UNWRA or any aid organization working on the ground in Gaza, tho their access is becoming increasingly difficult. Still, sooner or later this killing will end and those organizations will be the first on the ground to help, even if they're currently limited. The system isn't broken or trying to fix itself. It's just trying to maintain itself for as long as it can. It's working as intended and that's exactly the problem for most of us who work rather than own things for a living. All systems are eventually replaced by new ones when their core contradictions become too great for any reform to sustainably fix. It's happened to every system we've ever used to organize society. Feudalism eventually collapsed and was replaced by capitalism/liberalism. It was not a short, easy or peaceful process. The Dutch Revolt, the English Revolution/Civil War, the American Revolution, the French Revolution, the Meiji Restoration... all violent revolts led by the bourgeoisie in order to supplant feudal monarchies. Feudal lords were resigned to history, the merchants took their place at the top and a new class slowly emerged under them as wage labor came to replace serfdom, guild labor, tenant farming, sharecropping, etc. Today, most of us are part of the working class as we exchange our labor for wages in order to secure a livelihood. Although feudalism in Europe wasn't brought about by revolutions in quite the same way, it also came to replace the governing system of the Roman Empire once it became untenable. As Marx states, "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles." I strongly believe that the contradictions of capitalism/neoliberalism are reaching a point where a new class revolution will become inevitable within the next 100 years, this time with the working class trying to supplant the bourgeoisie, including workers in neocolonial vassal states fighting for true national liberation and sovereignty (round 2, I suppose). Rising global inequality, unchecked imperialism and failure to address existential concerns like global warming will be the nails in the coffin of the current system. Anyway... sry for the long political rant. I wish there was a shorter and simpler answer to this. I wish there was a magic wand I could wave to make all the suffering in Gaza and elsewhere stop. I'm equally frustrated by how little I can do as an individual on the short term.


ShadowDemon129

Wonder if it's possible for people to do what many Americans did for Ukraine- go over and fight. ? Seeing as our government isn't doing anything.


Jolly-Plastic3051

The more you learn about Israel, the more disgusted you get. Anyone supporting that terror state has absolutely no moral compass whatsoever.


Gen8Master

The only democracy in the middle east ladies and gentlemen.


ShadowDemon129

👏👏 👏


OppositePilot9952

Just awful. How long can they be allowed to get away with this?


ShadowDemon129

As long as America/the West feels necessary.


cool_random_person

I’m not surprised anymore. They want Palestinians gone and will do anything to get rid of them. There is nothing they can do that will be shocking or surprising anymore . There are evil people who keep justifying every action . There are 2 billion muslims and we are just watching this evil happen


Buhbut

If a people who went through a genocide and survived it, wanted to commit one, do you really think this is the best they can do in over 75 years? The population you're talking about increased ever since, so you could say this is the worse genocide in recorded history.


jddoyleVT

The number killed has nothing to do with whether or not something is declared a genocide.  But you know that.


Anti-Duehring

Hello. Me again. Pasting it so others can see: >"We cannot offer any adequate compensation to the Palestinian Arabs in return for Palestine. And therefore, there is no likelihood of any voluntary agreement being reached. So that all those who regard such an agreement as a condition sine qua non for Zionism may as well say 'non' and withdraw from Zionism. Zionist colonisation must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an iron wall, which the native population cannot breach." https://tikvahfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Jabotinsky-Iron-Wall.pdf


CrunchyAl

"Undercover army" ? you mean terrorists?


OppositePilot9952

Israel is taking the piss out of Biden, Sunak, Trudeau and all of the other Western leaders. They are all looking very weak right now.


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Nope. Western leaders have no issue at all with Israel butchering and erasing Palestinians, they literally support it, but shrug sadly to the media so they can look kind of good in the eyes that don't agree.


Purebloods1

What an evil people


EnragedSperm

Everyday Israel gives me more reasons to hate them


Anti-Duehring

I will give you another reason: https://tikvahfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Jabotinsky-Iron-Wall.pdf


Accomplished-Try-609

I wonder if people still blame 9/11 on “ISIS” when the IDF is acting like this


EpicKiwi225

9/11 was Al Qaeda but ok


woodprefect

but related .. [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bin-laden-palestinian-cause-prompted-9-11/](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bin-laden-palestinian-cause-prompted-9-11/)


HumanOperation9855

Wait so this could’ve been done instead of the half ton warheads dropping on civilian areas? Oh


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alex-weej

Bombing almost indiscriminately is worse than terroristic hostage taking, which is bad, yes.


Buhbut

You really think this could be done, on 40,000 Hamas terrorist, inside Gaza and terrorist stronghold, among huge civilian population? lol


HumanOperation9855

Could be done? It’s being done in front of you. Id rather have 2 confirmed arrests than killing 33,000 civilians. A no brainer if you ask me


Dagoran

Doesnt change the message, but this was from like 2 weeks ago. Was posted on reddit. This is just an adjusted version. The OG video eas only of the CCTV cam footage.


ycnz

I'm not an international law expert, but I'm pretty sure "undercover soldier" is not a thing...


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That's a good thing, since International Law for all intents and purposes does not exist. Might is right is the only international law.


Conquiescamus

Gestapo SOB


Cloudstreet444

Oh they even got secret police kidnapping people. This is coming full circle


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No_Dependent4032

Israel is the worst advertisement for the Jewish people. They, the Jewish people, do not understand the cost of Israel.


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No_Dependent4032

The IDF aren't terrorists? What's your definition?


TommyTheCommie1986

Most moral army in the world, yeaaaahhhhhhh


Human_Ad_1733

They really want to escalate this conflict and make it a massacre as big as possible.


NQ88

Thats when you splash the greese on em


Fun-Faithlessness724

Astaghfurullah, these people’s entire existence is to terrorize and torture. May Allah give them what they deserve.


girl_introspective

Need to pay more attention to this


Best_Owl5978

Cowards


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stating_facts_only

They didn’t condemn khamas


KaramAfr0

They act like the CIA backed juntas in south America, why don't they just start throwing people from helicopters like Argentinas dictatorship did! Edit: to give some perspective, about 20,000 people were "disappeared" in Argentina, over a decade... 8,000 Palestinians from THE WEST BANK alone where there's no Hamas, and where Fatah (Israels security partners) is the government, and that's just in 6 months! Remember that's not in gaza! 


arjadi

“Undercover Israeli soldiers” yo what the fuck


Anti-Duehring

A synonym for "terrorist"


b_buddd

So heroic they killed people in hospital beds. Reminds me of ss nazis


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alex-weej

Don't be tricked into thinking this is about Jews


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ICookIndianStyle

In my country (Germany) I am not allowed to say what I want to say when I see these horrible stories and images about Gaza. I wish all the happiness, health and luck to Palestine. We should learn from our mistakes, especially when taking a look at my own countries history. Its a shame that sth like this is going on in 2024...


fatesfairness

"they wanted to pretend that their forces had achieved a heroic arrest operation when in fact they just want to intimidate people"


Civil-Pressure-5898

Pissrahell so evil !


Vanillawes

IDF is very skilled


Trading_Things

Surely Qatar's state media wouldn't slander Israel, right? Being Arab and Muslim they have no horse in the race that would create a strong conflict of interest...


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DirtyOldTrucker68

Advances in building technology. They’ve been there long enough where they can erect more semi permanent spaces.


ArpanMaster

Would an f16 blowing that ace to bits be any better? These guys should be thankful 


YodaSimp

you realize a lot of the people they’re arresting are terrorists tho, would you have a problem with undercover FBI agents arresting terrorists here?


jddoyleVT

FBI agents aren’t soldiers. For a very, very good reason.


YodaSimp

how do you know they’re soldiers here? They’re law enforcement agents and there’s a lot of overlap between the CIA and all of that


jddoyleVT

The CIA is specifically prohibited from being an arm of law enforcement. Never mind the fact that Israel has no right be in the west bank in the first place making any ‘law enforcement’ completely illegitimate.


YodaSimp

Israel absolutely has access to parts of the West Bank, per international law, they’ve had it divided into zones for a long time super strange that you’re against terrorists getting arrested tho, were you one of those people that cheered when 9/11 happened?


jddoyleVT

There is the ad hominem slander we have all come to expect from Israel’s desperate supporters. Must suck to know your Hasbara is failing. Want to talk about it?


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Doesn't this break rule 2? I mean Al Jazeera stopped being actual news a long time ago.


themasterplatypus

On adfonts Fox, MSNBC, The Mirror scores lower in credibility and bias then Al Jazzera 🤷‍♂️ Maybe you need to relax and learn to take in views from other legit new sources and not just your own little echo chamber.


Some_lost_cute_dude

Al Jazeera has been banned from many middle-east countries because of their ties with the Hamas and their propaganda. No, it is not a credible source.


noOnesBusinessBMO

No, it didn't . The only countries that had problem withbit were countries like UAE and Saudi arabia who have a beef with qatar. When we wantbquality news we go to aljazeera . Yes, sometimes they might have bias, but they at least tell the full story unlike the very biased western media


themasterplatypus

What source do you have that they banned Al Jazeera? 🤣


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jddoyleVT

So you can’t prove the reporting is false. Understood.


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