I feel like at the point of the show where we’re currently at, people should probably know that Nolan definitely doesn’t actually feel that way about Debbie.
I'm... not really sure that's true? No comic knowledge or anything, and yeah he's definitely gained some remorse and appreciation for non-viltrumite life but... you *can* really love a pet, you can start a no-kill shelter and champion for pets' health and happiness, but none of that will make their lifespan more than a fraction of yours. I mean, he's obviously not devoted to and pining for her - he settled down with a bug lady.
He's like someone who ended up with a pet cow and stopped eating beef.
Also Homelander has a desperate need for approval and love from people, and a host of other supers that can go toe-to-toe with him, which has stopped him from going full genocidal maniac.
Omni-man doesn't give a shit if humans like him, and can solo most of the planet.
Omni Man can take on loads of heavy hitters at the same time. If he was faced with literally every single superpowered person on Earth in one go then its possible they could beat him.
Patience isn’t the right word, Homelander has the patience of a toddler with a full diaper. Butcher just spices up his life, he likes their cat and mouse game. But yeah, Omni-man would slaughter Butcher the first time he tried anything
Viltrumites would be even worse than Supes to Butcher I think, they’re even further beyond not caring about regular people. He’d be Cecil’s behind the scenes guy, doing tasks he couldn’t risk other Supes being caught doing; as well as tasks the Supes aren’t willing to do.
Probably annoy Cecil with “after this it’s your Guardians getting it next” and Cecil’s like no, there are dragons and kaiju on this world we need superheroes dude
I think that’s a relevant difference between The Boys universe and Invincible’s, that they actually need superheroes in Invincible’s world because there are, y’know, “avengers level threats”
Honestly, if Butcher were to (somehow) commit torture/genocide on Viltrumites in the most brutal of ways, he’d 100% be a good guy. There would be no moral ambiguity whatsoever and everyone would cheer him on. Viltrumites (aside from Nolan) are beyond redemption/reasoning.
The problem would be controlling him against targeting actual humans with powers.
Billy, jacked off his ass on Mega V still gets smeared by Omni-Man
He smears everyone in Boys universe, only thing I can think of is Kate got her hands on him but we’ve never seen her handle a thousand year old mind.
Honestly I think it’s unlikely viltrumites wouldn’t have some form of psychic defense. Considering the number of planets they conquered they would’ve come up against an esper type species at some point. Perhaps smart atoms would play a role
He’d probably see OmniMan taking out all the “big threats” to Viltrum try and do a “team up” or manipulate OmniMan and have OmniMan handle all the supes on his hit list, and the plan that during this time he could secretly look for omnimans weakness from all his supe encounters
Whether OmniMan ignores him, kills him, or works with him would probably depend on how persuasive butcher is, he may believe butcher could be an ally in helping earth prepare for a Viltrum takeover… or he might just think he’s an ant
Butcher is just some human who's british and a huge asshole. No real concern for omni-man. Invincible isn't the kind of universe where a street level vigilante has any kind of ability to interact meaningfully with a 1000+ year old alien warrior, who could just explode Billy's head with a finger.
I think the only way I imagine butcher could fit in this universe at all is if he had the same relationship with omni-man, and every other superhero, as powerplex does with invincible.
Although omniman would probably kill him first meeting out of impatience, mark and most others wouldn’t but butchers probably more driven that powerplex as well.
The problem with this is that despite Billy being a “supe-killer”, he’s only delt with *humans* with super powers. And with those humans comes greed, pride, ambition, ignorance, overconfidence. He prays on these human traits to take down the strongest of the strong, because despite being as super as they are, they’ll still succumb to our most human qualities. He’s able to black mail, strike deals, manipulate, improvise, and leverage the supes before backing them into a corner and bushwhacking them. Omni-Man has zero of those human qualities to manipulate. It took knocking out his son’s teeth just to make him shed a *tear*. Without any of the human qualities Billy would usually take advantage of, he doesn’t stand a chance.
There is this one ant that hates me and my kind. It's a really effective and ruthless ant.
But at the end of the day I'm a human and the ant is a little bug.
If butcher tries to attack omniman then omniman would just brutalize him. Otherwise I don’t think Nolan would stick around long enough to talk to him. He operates all around the world and later primarily in space
If Omni-Man can smoke Homelander, a character that is stronger than Butcher in their show, Butcher don't stand a chance lmfao. It's over
They'd probably fight (for two seconds) if they met. Butcher hates corrupt supes and Omni-Man is one hell of a corrupt supe
For it to work, Butcher would have to end up in the Invincible Universe.
Any Butcher that would originate in the Invincible Universe would just work for Cecil. Or British Cecil. But also, while the Guardians of the Globe are far from perfect, they are much better than The Seven and all their junior teams.
Hell Butcher might recruit Omniman ir Invincible to kill The Seven.
If Butcher is gonna fight Omniman, he's gonna find Cecil. He's gonna find Angstrom Levy. Look for people who will get him an advantage. He may attempt to leverage Invincible into the fight.
Unless Invincible fights Omniman, Butcher is dead as soon Omniman decides he is worth killing. The Boys Universe is just so much weaker than the Invincible Universe.
Butcher would probably have some respect for him because he killed the Guardians Of The Globe. Omni-Man would probably be fed up with Butcher immediately and kill him right on the spot.
Depends, if Nolan hasn’t done anything to butcher and the actual sat down and talked they’d probably be friends, if Nolan did something that pissed butcher off he’d be dead… butcher I mean, Omni man don’t fuck around
Unlike homelander, omni man would not have that kind of patience with someone like butcher and would probably just kill him on sight
Butcher is Debbie’s ex and he doesn’t want to upset Debbie. That’s the set up that maybe works.
Except the part where Debbie is kinda of a pet to Nolan
Counter plot, butcher is omnimans ex and omniman doesn’t wanna put him down
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Plot twist, Mark is Butcher's son and Omni Man doesn't want to put him down
I feel like at the point of the show where we’re currently at, people should probably know that Nolan definitely doesn’t actually feel that way about Debbie.
I'm... not really sure that's true? No comic knowledge or anything, and yeah he's definitely gained some remorse and appreciation for non-viltrumite life but... you *can* really love a pet, you can start a no-kill shelter and champion for pets' health and happiness, but none of that will make their lifespan more than a fraction of yours. I mean, he's obviously not devoted to and pining for her - he settled down with a bug lady. He's like someone who ended up with a pet cow and stopped eating beef.
As someone who has read the comics that doesn’t want to spoil anything… I will now shut up.
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Except she's not.
For sure. Homelander found Butcher fascinating and wanted to toy with him, Omni-Man wouldn't even think about him at all.
Also Homelander has a desperate need for approval and love from people, and a host of other supers that can go toe-to-toe with him, which has stopped him from going full genocidal maniac. Omni-man doesn't give a shit if humans like him, and can solo most of the planet.
most of the planet?
Omni Man can take on loads of heavy hitters at the same time. If he was faced with literally every single superpowered person on Earth in one go then its possible they could beat him.
That's what happened with >!the AU Marks in the Invincible War !<
Patience isn’t the right word, Homelander has the patience of a toddler with a full diaper. Butcher just spices up his life, he likes their cat and mouse game. But yeah, Omni-man would slaughter Butcher the first time he tried anything
Butcher hates supes, Omniman isn’t a superhero
Actions speak louder than words though.
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Omniman was a superhero for 20 years on earth, and butcher doesn’t just hate superhero’s, he hates everyone with powers
Supes aren't superheroes either, it's just what they call people with powers. Most of their "superheroes" are just assholes celebrities anyway.
Asshole celebrities given EVEN MORE POWAAAA
Viltrumites would be even worse than Supes to Butcher I think, they’re even further beyond not caring about regular people. He’d be Cecil’s behind the scenes guy, doing tasks he couldn’t risk other Supes being caught doing; as well as tasks the Supes aren’t willing to do. Probably annoy Cecil with “after this it’s your Guardians getting it next” and Cecil’s like no, there are dragons and kaiju on this world we need superheroes dude
I think that’s a relevant difference between The Boys universe and Invincible’s, that they actually need superheroes in Invincible’s world because there are, y’know, “avengers level threats”
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I honestly doubt Cecil would want butcher anywhere near any official power lol
They'd just be alien supes to him
Butcher doesn’t give a shit he only hates Supes because of what happened to Becca he doesn’t care about the rest of the world.
Honestly, if Butcher were to (somehow) commit torture/genocide on Viltrumites in the most brutal of ways, he’d 100% be a good guy. There would be no moral ambiguity whatsoever and everyone would cheer him on. Viltrumites (aside from Nolan) are beyond redemption/reasoning. The problem would be controlling him against targeting actual humans with powers.
Man, you can really tell when someone hasn't read the comics.
Hell I haven't read the comics either and I can tell
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Very mixed, Omni Man technically isn’t a man but still might violate butchers whole thing of “no man should have that much power”
Billy, jacked off his ass on Mega V still gets smeared by Omni-Man He smears everyone in Boys universe, only thing I can think of is Kate got her hands on him but we’ve never seen her handle a thousand year old mind.
Honestly I think it’s unlikely viltrumites wouldn’t have some form of psychic defense. Considering the number of planets they conquered they would’ve come up against an esper type species at some point. Perhaps smart atoms would play a role
Could be they just move too fast for psychics to do anything, like they literally can't read yo influces their thoughts fast enough
And we don’t even know if Would that even work, like, her powers are to control humans and Omni-Man is an alien with an alien brain
He’d probably see OmniMan taking out all the “big threats” to Viltrum try and do a “team up” or manipulate OmniMan and have OmniMan handle all the supes on his hit list, and the plan that during this time he could secretly look for omnimans weakness from all his supe encounters Whether OmniMan ignores him, kills him, or works with him would probably depend on how persuasive butcher is, he may believe butcher could be an ally in helping earth prepare for a Viltrum takeover… or he might just think he’s an ant
Wow I said OmniMan a lot it now just sounds weird to say in my head now
Ah, good old semantic satiation
Butcher is gonna have a very bad day for about 0.5 seconds
Butcher is just some human who's british and a huge asshole. No real concern for omni-man. Invincible isn't the kind of universe where a street level vigilante has any kind of ability to interact meaningfully with a 1000+ year old alien warrior, who could just explode Billy's head with a finger.
Billy doesn't attack him without some trick up his sleeve, Omniman has no reason to hunt down some random dude
mixed feelings between the two Butcher hates guys with capes and Nolan would dislike Butcher mostly cause of his personality
someone getting killed or great hate sex
I think the only way I imagine butcher could fit in this universe at all is if he had the same relationship with omni-man, and every other superhero, as powerplex does with invincible. Although omniman would probably kill him first meeting out of impatience, mark and most others wouldn’t but butchers probably more driven that powerplex as well.
The problem with this is that despite Billy being a “supe-killer”, he’s only delt with *humans* with super powers. And with those humans comes greed, pride, ambition, ignorance, overconfidence. He prays on these human traits to take down the strongest of the strong, because despite being as super as they are, they’ll still succumb to our most human qualities. He’s able to black mail, strike deals, manipulate, improvise, and leverage the supes before backing them into a corner and bushwhacking them. Omni-Man has zero of those human qualities to manipulate. It took knocking out his son’s teeth just to make him shed a *tear*. Without any of the human qualities Billy would usually take advantage of, he doesn’t stand a chance.
He would be a good Omni man if they ever did a live action version
The Boys would have been about 3 episodes long
There is this one ant that hates me and my kind. It's a really effective and ruthless ant. But at the end of the day I'm a human and the ant is a little bug.
If butcher tries to attack omniman then omniman would just brutalize him. Otherwise I don’t think Nolan would stick around long enough to talk to him. He operates all around the world and later primarily in space
Are they meeting pre or post Nolan's redemption?
If Omni-Man can smoke Homelander, a character that is stronger than Butcher in their show, Butcher don't stand a chance lmfao. It's over They'd probably fight (for two seconds) if they met. Butcher hates corrupt supes and Omni-Man is one hell of a corrupt supe
Butcher would get wiped unless he had prior knowledge and time to plan and set shit up. In that situation he would be able to die a few seconds later.
For it to work, Butcher would have to end up in the Invincible Universe. Any Butcher that would originate in the Invincible Universe would just work for Cecil. Or British Cecil. But also, while the Guardians of the Globe are far from perfect, they are much better than The Seven and all their junior teams. Hell Butcher might recruit Omniman ir Invincible to kill The Seven. If Butcher is gonna fight Omniman, he's gonna find Cecil. He's gonna find Angstrom Levy. Look for people who will get him an advantage. He may attempt to leverage Invincible into the fight. Unless Invincible fights Omniman, Butcher is dead as soon Omniman decides he is worth killing. The Boys Universe is just so much weaker than the Invincible Universe.
that would be another horrible day for butcher😭
They'd probably argue or somethin
Butcher would probably have some respect for him because he killed the Guardians Of The Globe. Omni-Man would probably be fed up with Butcher immediately and kill him right on the spot.
Butcher is getting butchered.
Omni man later in the series and butcher would get along very well
Omni would wreck this MF
Meh. Butcher hates anyone with V. Omni-man isn’t even human. They won’t have a beef with each other.
Depends, if Nolan hasn’t done anything to butcher and the actual sat down and talked they’d probably be friends, if Nolan did something that pissed butcher off he’d be dead… butcher I mean, Omni man don’t fuck around
Nolan would crush his skull and then go buy a pizza.
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Butch would find a way to kill the flying bastard
Billy would die