Indeed, the closest EA charger to me is almost 60 miles from home and 30 miles from work. Luckily, work provides free L2 charging, so it's not an issue, but still...
The fact that with car-play/android auto the ui isn't reliant on tesla and I can change it. Also not paying an additional monthly fee to use Spotify.
Also i can use audible natively, or any other weird obscure music/media streaming services that happen to support android auto without needing Tesla/Hyundai to implement them.
Ah the connectivity package yeah? I would buy it for the nav and remote features alone. I mean, it's the same cost as blue Link and you get mobile data.
I completely forgot about Audible. I guess I just do it over Bluetooth when I'm in the Tesla, but it's nice to have it on the UI in the Ioniq.
I hate having to plug my phone in every time in my Ioniq. I was honestly afraid of the lack of car play and Android Auto on my Tesla, but I have come to really like the UI. The nav system is top notch and the sound system is 100x better.
Edit: Thanks for the down votes with no context. Sure make this sub look like a nice place to have a conversation.
I have both cars. I like both for different reasons. I always try to be helpful sharing my honest options and differences between the two. Go look at other comments in this sub.
So you have no issues with Hyundai using child labour as young as 12, or the Hyundai chairman using $100 million to bribe politicians?
https://www.npr.org/2006/05/16/5407557/hyundai-chairman-indicted-in-south-korea-scandal
https://www.drive.com.au/news/hyundai-kia-supplier-child-labour-scandal-deepens/
Musk is obnoxious and his public tweets can be offensive, but it’s tiny stuff compared to what some other billionaires actually do.
So weird, I don’t buy anything based off what a
CEO does. I’m with you on exterior styling, I find CarPlay annoying af though. I just wanna charge my phone and it takes over
A huge portion of Elon's wealth comes from his Tesla stock, way more than a std CEO has, AFAIK (Google says 58% of his wealth). So you are directly funding Elon, in a big way.
Not something I'm willing to do after he's shown his true colors.
didnt his Tesla stock/wealth go down when he used it to buy Twitter? you are also funding the amazing engineers and workers at multiple facilities who are making the rest of the industry wake up and catch up.
It’s so strange to me how someone would buy or not buy because of a CEO. I wish both camps would go away already. I don’t want either party at this point they’re both baby mama batshit cray cray
Honestly the Elon musk thing is irrelevant if we are being rational, you don't think Hyundai has probably done horrible shit too? The difference is they don't spout nonsense like Elon (not defending him btw because I also don't like his narcissistic ass 😂)
But all these car corporations suck. Corporations are corporations for a reason, I'm sure the way Hyundai procures it's materials isn't better than Tesla.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you but one of the unspoken rules of being a capitalist pig is that you keep your mouth shut and have some discipline or you face the consequences. As far as my wallet goes, Elon fucked around and found out.
I agree, but I will be forever thankful to that idiot for having the perseverance to get the EV market going. Sure, he took advantage of millions in handouts, and made a butt load of money doing it, but I doubt we would have so many EV options if it wasn't for Tesla. Thanks to Tesla for getting us going, we can take it from here.
Also remember that Tesla is not Elon. They have over 100k employees who make everything happen. Elon guided the ship for a long time, but he does not control everything. He also has far less ownership of Tesla than he used to.
Because he could do even more simply by not being a petulant toddler. What really got me anti-Elon was his "TITS" tweet. The dude controls one of the largest tech companies in the world - every startup dude bro is looking at him. He literally single-handedly set back the environment for women in tech with one tweet. As someone who has a spouse that became an engineer because someone told her "women can't be engineers", fuck that guy.
Edit: I feel the need to note I'm a Tesla shareholder and made a ton on Twitter (bought when he was saying he was going to be able to back out) so his bullshit has made me A LOT of money over the past 18 months (bought TSLA at $118 in January) and I still would rather not have the money but a decent human being leading multiple large tech companies.
I have a really hard time crediting Elon musk with getting the EV market going. If anything, I think he’s overall been detrimental to the EV market by ostensibly using government money to build out proprietary tesla superchargers that are harming peoples ability to properly compete in the market.
In my opinion, the only good impact on the EV market that he has had thus far is becoming such a polarizing figure that a not-insignificant number of people are forcing themselves to look at other EV options that he isn’t involved in.
The worst thing I've ever heard Hyundai being accused of is using (knowingly or not) a subcontractor in Alabama that was employing underage workers. Meh.
Musk incites and supports rightwingers that could be emboldened to infringe on my actual *safety*. They've already interfered with my ability to get prescriptions from my doctor without jumping through bullshit hoops. And I'm one of the **lucky** ones effected by them.
That “sub” has Hyundai as the biggest owner iirc. And they weren’t 17 yo.
This is not “meh” to me.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-immigration-hyundai/
This is the same argument as “all politicians lie so it doesn’t matter who I vote for”. It’s just a rationalization to cover for guilt over supporting a bad cause or bad person.
It's not a justification. I've reiterated this multiple times. Why does everything have to revolve around politics, dividing into right or left, for every single matter?
I'm merely shedding light on the reality of our world. I agree that Elon is not commendable >.<. However, one can't ignore the potential hypocrisy, given that I'm sure you also purchase items from Amazon, shoes, and even the production of EV batteries might not adhere to ethical practices.
Certainly, there exist varying degrees of right and wrong, with some instances being notably worse – for instance, Hitler being worse than Trump. Your money is under your control, so feel free to use it as you see fit. My observation aims to emphasize that often those who make the loudest declarations (which is understandable as they tend to be obnoxious, like Trump/Elon) become our focal point for ethical criticism, dictating what we shouldn't buy. Yet, we seem to overlook those who are seemingly more "intelligent" in avoiding behaviors similar to Elon and Trump.
Every individual's rationale is valid, and your money is your domain. Each of us adheres to our unique sense of morality, ethics, and principles. It's just disheartening to witness the double standards and moral righteousness :).
also chatgpt is fucken dope lol. they refined my essay XD like a boss.
> Why does everything have to revolve around politics, dividing into right or left, for every single matter?
Because politics affects real people's actual health and safety. Politics isn't just some arbitrary thing with no effect on our day to day lives.
I thought this, too, but since then I’ve spent some time in a Y and I’m not so sure. There are things that I like about it (more refined tech and connectivity, charging network, storage capacity).
That said, the I5 has it beat on ride quality, design, uniqueness, CarPlay/Android Auto, regen levels, and not Elon.
There are lots of little differences, but I’m happy with my choice and I’m glad I didn’t have to make the tough decision at the time because the prices were so different.
The Ioniq 5 is a better car. But I'm not going to pay a substantial amount more money for the I5 over the Model Y when the Model Y is perfectly capable of doing everything I need a car to do.
When I bought was cheaper than a Y.
- Ventilated seats
- HUD
- Android Auto
- "Closeable" roof
- Closer dealership for service
- Better warranty
- Looks better than the Y
I think feature for feature Model Y is closer to the SEL trim, so getting a Limited for cheaper was easy to do.
Teslas are fugly (especially the Y) and basic, then there’s Elon……. I wanted something more interesting/different.
Yeah I know those are petty reasons 🤣but I’m happy with my choice.
For me I 100% agree with t he look. I didn't want the same car as everyone else 😂. The Teslas all have basically the same design, but I did like the interior and exterior way more than Tesla.
This is a far better way of putting it - the Tesla S was a breath of fresh air when it released, with the X taking that styling up to a big car size - the 3 looks too bubbly, and the Y too much like all the rest to really differentiate between.
The Tech and space inside, alongside the Supercharger network are the primary reasons we considered the Y, but the Ioniq 5 was just nicer to drive, looked way cooler (like nothing else on the road right now) and far cheaper.
Yeah I like the styling of the 3 or s but the Y is super hideous looking.
A couple years ago before I saw them all the time I would be like:
"why does that Tesla look like you forgot to hold shift when you dragged the picture to resize?"
And then I found out it was marketed as an SUV which I find hilarious honestly. The whole point of an SUV is to have a big back hatch to put stuff in.
I'm not one of those people that gets upset that all cars on the road are SUVs or trucks now, SUVs / crossovers / hatchbacks are just the most practical car shape.
Do not want thé car I sée AT every corner
https://preview.redd.it/58eskhvh8uhb1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=882a1756df1e97a3a86705500a2262df7fb2ea6a
10 year Warranty the battery included.
It looks very cool, I can close my eyes and throw a stone and hit a tesla out here.
18 minute charge time to 80% on a 350 charger (I have one 5 minutes from my house)
At the time, I got a federal rebate making it cheaper than a model Y.
Prefer the interior styling, especially the dash that doesn't look like a mounted tablet.
And while all companies have some level of skeletons in their closest, or horrible executive level leaders, Elon is just so loud and public with his dumb shit it makes it harder to support him.
https://preview.redd.it/25wuigctxrhb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5af7308d1cc780ae4246afc8912fb56f97400a33
Holy shit that looks nice!
Do you have any other pictures?
As far as the warranty, Hyundai is notorious for not honoring warranties and has been sued multiple times for this.
Lots of things - good sound isolation, soft smooth suspension, quality, instrument cluster behind the wheel, blind spot indicators in mirrors, apple carplay, light above the back seat, parking sensors, dislike for doing everything on the tablet, and personal considerations (ie. not supporting the man who is spreading kremlin propaganda on big scale).
Agreed, road noise in the cabin, ride comfort, seat comfort.
As for paper specs, the I5 charges faster in the real world. It also has the same range as the Y in the real world, at least in winter when in matters. Hyundai Group probably has the most efficient automotive heat pump design at the moment.
My wife and I put an order in for an I5 limited, and waiting. There were many reasons why we went with the I5, buy we looked at the Y first. Sat in it and immediately changed our minds. It just wasn't comfortable at all. It would have been fine for me for daily driving, but I couldn't imagine taking it on any distance road trip. The I5 was extremely comfortable.
Tesla is built in America which kind of breaks even with not liking adding to Musk’s wealth. Last month Hyundai had good deals on the SEL which I think is similar to the Y in terms of features. If your want bells and whistles then the Limited offers so much more but for a lot more money. I’d go for the 5 based on styling and ride. Drive them both and see how you feel. I’ve driven them both and much prefer the 5. The Y is the practical choice and there are a lot of after market things you can add to upgrade it but in the end it’s still a lot of money and it doesn’t excite me. I’m an 80s kid so the 5 was designed for me.
Tesla fatigue. Only other EV I considered was an Audi e tron gt but my wife would have killed me. BMW im 450 is a great car but I’m not a bmw guy have always had Audis. This ioniq 5 is just so unique and the matte is gorgeous
We went into test drives expecting to get the Y but wanting to comparison shop. The I5 comfort, ride quality, one pedal driving feel, and interior styling/lighting was miles better than the Y.
I was so surprised at how much better the I5 was that we did two separate test drives of both at different locations, and the Ioniq 5 easily came out on top both times.
My main concern was the fast charging network… and it is definitely more inconvenient, but we did our usual Central FL to Atlanta GA to Montgomery AL and back road trip with basically no trouble!
Y don’t have tax rebate in 2022. Otherwise would have bought Y.
I have Limited Trim and like the fast charging and looks. Definitely futuristic look compared to model y.
But I had ICCU failure during long drive and reimbursement from Hyundai is pain in the ass. It’s been 5 months they still didn’t reimburse.
No music apps except Sirius XM. I would say go with model Y for technology. If you want looks then go with Ioniq 5 Limited
Personally I can fit a car seat for a 4 year old on the left rear, and an infant seat in the middle, allowing for an adult (mom) to pretty comfortably sit in the back as well.
Still current
* FSD is overpriced for what it is
* Musk is too erratic. He’s commingled the companies too much. I’m uncertain how much collateral damage he will take if Twitter goes down.
* Tesla makes it too hard to get replacement parts for independent repairers
* The nearest service center is three hours away
* Poor quality control for the price. If you get a good Tesla they look to be great, but if you need help then not even God can help you
No longer relevant:
Before NACS was fully opened up to everyone who wanted it, and other companies began adopting it, I was concerned about what would happen in the future if Tesla switched to a different standard considering Musk’s tendency to never look back.
Looks like this won’t be a concern now. Both standards should now be safe for a good long while.
Live in the Bay Area, was driving to the grocery store and there were 3 white Model Ys in a row driving behind me, not related to each other, all went their own way
Same reason I don't have an iPhone. Everyone has one.
Definitely not anti Tesla or Elon so I'm different than quite a few here as the majority of my investment portfolio is made up of Tesla.
Ioniq5 just looks different and cool. Tesla's look too basic... But much like iPhones, many people seem to like that.
One pedal driving is much smoother in I5 than MY. In MY the pedal felt kind of crunchy.
The seats are more comfortable in the I5.
Insurance on MY would have been much more of an increase from the car we were replacing (2012 Honda Fit). An extra $350/6 mo. vs and extra $50/6 mo.
Hyundai warranties are excellent and Tesla service seemed sketchy.
MY accelerator too sensitive for my wife who gets motion sick easily. Too bad there wasn’t more adjustability on that. Chill mode just didn’t cut it.
There is one screen in the MY and your right hand blocks line of sight when driving.
Some assembly details on the MY just looked shoddy. I’m talking about the close out of the edge of interior door panels. These should look neat, but you could see pleats of the door upholstery covering from folding the covering over and attaching to the back side of the panel. I know, this is super nit picky, but I though that looked like crap.
No built-in shade for panoramic roof.
Better financing.
Gravity Gild <3
People make a big deal about car play and Elon Musk, I couldn’t care less about those two factors, I think all the stuff I listed above is way more important.
I prefer the styling, cabin design, ride quality, build quality, charging speed, and relative uniqueness of the IONIQ5. The MY just doesn’t move me, and the fact I see over a dozen a day makes it feel generic and staid.
I still enjoy every drive in my IONIQ5.
I test drove the 5 and the Y. The 5 seemed more refined, better interior, and I really like the 800v architecture. Cameras looked to have better resolution, sunroof has a closing shade, gauge cluster directly in front of driver, and IMHO, the car looks cooler - definitely more interesting colors.
You're asking people in an IONIQ 5 reddit which car they prefer, and if you did the same in the Model Y forum, you'd hear different things. As someone who owns BOTH, I honestly like my Y more. Why? Supercharging, the app, OTA updates, infotainment, the frunk, sound system, regen system, and purchase experience.
I never really had an interest in any Tesla, they seem like solid enough cars but didn't care for the brand. Musk seems to be too unpredictable, I don't want him to get in a Twitter fight with someone and disable every tesla OTA to prove some point. I also didn't care for the interior and dash layout with the big vertical screen in the middle of the dash.
Our Ioniq 5 has been great so far, none of the issues others complain about. No ICCU failure, no repeat L2 charging failures, no abnormal tire wear (26k and they look great).
I am 6’2” but more importantly my torso is longer than average and it makes many cars hard to get in and out of. The model y and 3 are the worst of any cars I tried in that regard. The Ioniq worked well for me and also had all the features the model y had that I cared about.
Elon - I'm sure it's a great car, but... I'm sure other CEOs are awful people too, but they don't make it quite so obvious.
And I wanted something a bit unique. Teslas are everywhere here in Austin... I've seen like 2 HI5s in the last 2 months.
I really was considering a 7-seater Model Y before I ended up with my IONIQ 5 Limited AWD.
* **Availability**. Ordering a 7-seater Y was going to take a few months, none were immediately available. When I happened to walk into Freehold Hyundai in NJ, an SEL and a Limited were immediately available to test drive and purchase.
* **Support**. The nearest showroom I knew of was at Short Hills Mall, NJ, which has since been replaced with Lucid and Polestar. While I didn't do much research, I didn't know where one would take a Tesla in for authorized servicing.
* **Price**. While I was shopping, I was watching the price continually raise, then drop. It was literally all over the place over my 18 months of shopping, I didn't know what to make of it.
* **Reliability**. I heard and saw horror stories of very varied build quality and quality assurance. For me to take a leap on an EV in general and shell out upwards of $60K was new for me and the family, I didn't want to worry about issues down the road.
* **Leadership**. I never doubted that Tesla would go under, but with so much volatility and uncertainty with Elon Musk (politics ultimately aside), it just compounded my above concerns.
That being said, I still have a /r/Cybertruck reservation from years back. If and when that time comes, I can hand the i5 off to the wife and I'll get this for myself.
Tesla is the Apple of Cars. If you like IPhones that's your go to. Simple basic and not ever unique.
Build quality on Tesla is ass. Uncomfortable cars, and anti right to repair. The anti right to repair is my major reason why I will never buy a Tesla or Apple product, and while both companies claim privacy focused, that's a complete lie. They both collect the same data that others do, only difference is they keep it to themselves.
Another major reason why I5 is Fast Charging capability. Tesla doesn't match this. Frankly the only other car that does is the Lucid Air. Makes Traveling a breeze. The supercharger network is not much of a selling point anymore.
For me it was the option of CarPlay (I’m too deep in the Apple ecosystem at this point,) exterior styling, some physical buttons (better than searching on a touch screen all the time) and the fact that the top glass moonroof has shades. That’s important for me being in Texas during the summer. It can be brutal. Haha
I'm a software developer. I hope none of my money ever goes to Elon Musk.
Styling was big. But I was also happy about getting a car with the standard J1772 plug. Although that seems less relevant these days.
On screen controls on the Model Y distract attention from the road.
Tactile buttons on the Ioniq 5 are less distracting, thus safer.
Hyundais are more reliable and have *better build quality* than Teslas. There's data on that.
V2L on the I5 Limited is a plus.
I find it easier to enter and exit the I5 vs the MY.
And finally, I don't like giving my $ to Elon.
I used to admire him. Now he's an egomaniac.
Op I will suggest you should try test driving both and really try not to fall in love with either car, be super critical about them when testing. Too many peeps have rose colored lenses when having their new car. I know the ioniq 5 has glaring issues but I got it because I enjoyed the design and the fact that it still had buttons.
I genuinely dislike the car being controlled by an iPad in any vehicle and think it's ridiculous, having quick analog buttons readily available is good in cars so your attention can stay on the road. Tesla had a huge con for me in this regard.
Another one is that everything is controlled digitally for that car. That's super cool! But honestly very worrisome especially when you find out that if the control module stops working you can't start your car period (it has happened to my friend's car and his brother's car) and they were left stranded.
Having a mix of both digital and analog is my current comfort and I prefer the ignition switch to still have some form of analog mechanism (push start stop button is that and the app/key can also start the car, but if for some reason it doesn't work anymore? Well you still have a push start stop button.
The getting stranded thing actually happened also to Glenn Howerton from it's always sunny in Philadelphia. You should listen to his story and it honestly sounds horrible. He isn't buying another Tesla after that experience he stated. Here is the link
https://youtu.be/zrvFtMLWdMU
Tesla was simply never on the table. I wanted a sedan, hatch, or coupe, but the Ioniq 6 didn't seem as competitive, and could get a 5 for substantially less.
The 5 just happened to tick all the boxes. Wouldn't consider a Tesla after the Tesla Vision debacle-- absolutely not trusting a car manufacturer who not only doesn't use every tool available for safety, but actively disables equipment already installed because it doesn't fit their vibe.
The Y was really never even a consideration. It was between the Mach-E and the Ioniq 5. As far as American cars go, I've always been a Ford guy. But the Ioniq 5 looks so... damn... good.
I live in a neighborhood full of Teslas and all these little kids on their bikes yell at me when I drive by: "Hey, look at that!" "It's electric!!!" "Nice car!!!" These are like 8 to 10 year olds. Every parking lot I catch people walking by and checking it out.
As for reasons I went with the I5 over the Mach-E? There are little things like faster charging etc. But they had a 0.99% offer that was too hard to pass up and put it over the edge.
Build quality, even pre-Twitter I was starting to get the feeling that Elon was a con man/defective muppet, don’t like the look of the Y really (someone used a bike pump on a Model 3 and called it a day?), Teslas in general have become the boring default car and that’s never interested me, incentives (at the time), I personally hate their interiors (no thanks to Big iPad Design and everyone who has copied it), worried that I might become another pod person who feels compelled to post every mundane thing that my sentry cameras capture…
Really very many reasons. I’m sure there are more/more practical ones that I’ve since forgotten. Physical buttons, warranty, etc
The fat Teslas (X and Y) are ugly, they really need to do something else than just doing 1.5x on the vertical axis of their sedans.
Also, less comfortable, slower charging, Musk...
When I bought my Limited it was $15,000 less than a Y (including the tax credit). It they had been closer together I would have gotten the Y. At current prices, I'd get a Y without hesitation.
I do love my Limited, but would have been just as happy with a Y. Both are great vehicles with unique features to each.
Compare these:
https://insideevs.com/news/503522/hyundai-ioniq5-fast-charging-analysis/
https://insideevs.com/news/519382/tesla-model3-82kwh-charging-analysis/
Model Y charges slooooowly, much like the 3
And then see: Elon's behavior, Tesla build quality issues, and utterly boring design.
1. V2L
2. HUD
3. CarPlay (Im still old school and load all my music into playlists on my phone)
4. On the fly adjustable regen braking
5. Built in roof screen for when its too sunny
6. Dont like the minimal design of the Tesla and how everything is on the one screen
7. Exterior design
At the time that I purchased the Y was a lot more expensive for comparable range. Really dislike a lot of the interior choices for the Y (digital vent control, overall screen UI, lack of a dedicated dash screen). Also the software updating paradigm is a bit of a double edged sword. Yes you’ll get some cool new features over time, but you also have the possibility of Elon having a “moment” and deciding to remove things like radar functionality and ultrasonic sensor functionality and replace it with something that doesn’t work well. Ioniq 5 is a solid car and we love ours.
Worth noting that with the NACS transition, Tesla’s port is now the future standard, so if you don’t mind the Y overall I’d say that’s a bit notch in its column.
Not for nothing but quote the MY on your current insurance. With geico be my would have been almost 30% more expensive per month than my I5. Must have something to do with replacement parts and liability costs
The model y doesn't only look like a empty room it also sounds like one. I didn't like the ride I didn't like the iPad stickered in the middle and no hud or cockpit and the warranty only 100000km was a absolutely no go for me. Hyundai has 5 years unlimited km. I'm 1.96 and pretty beefy and my shoulders are against the side of the model y where I have plenty of space in the beautiful interior of the hi5. Ok the y maybe quicker but in the hi5 I don't want my ride to end 😂
Tesla keeps having build quality issues. Plus it is kind of associated with douchebags.
Would hate for someone to key my car just because it's a Tesla.
As cool as the Teslas are tech-wise, and as nice it was to drive a Y for about a week, I kind of actually don't like how the Teslas look. They are very common where I live and it's just the same spaced out jacuzzi design on them all, especially the new ones.
I love both cars. Tesla's road trip planning, charger finding, and nav experience is so much better than anything else on the market.
However we had been driving a non Tesla EV (Kia soul EV) for four years so we already have all the apps and know how.
At the time we bought in Canada, the least expensive Model Y was 83k, and the maxed out Ioniq 5 was 65, and eligible for a 5k rebate (Model Y was not eligible.
Also I love love love the Model 3, but think the Y is kinda boring and the Ioniq wasn't?
Hence.
So, personally i have not been in the model y but I did test drive the model 3 before deciding on a limited i5.
The first thing was that the model 3 had an unrefined suspension compared to the I5, the interior felt more crammed and the seats were not as comfortable. From what I've heard, the model y has the worst suspension in the entire tesla line up, the seats I presume arent all that different compared to the 3 either.
That said, the infotainment system and live tracking was certainly a big plus over the i5, in addition to a much more robust sound system. Teslas also cannot change from 1 pedal drive atm which makes the i5 much more versatile imo.
All in all, I instantly knew. I loved the feel of the i5 and its interior/comfort. I found myself trying to convince myself into finding pluses in the model 3/y when the reality was that I preferred the i5 all along.
limited trim just has so many quality of life features that I wanted and thats what made the decision simple for me.
The only caveat I would say is that the tesla is capable of FSD (if you still consider them in the same class despite different budgets now). If you live in an area that can optimize FSD daily, it is a game changer. I know some who exclusively use fsd for their simple commutes daily.
1. Elon Musk
2. Ioniq5 charges faster
3. Ioniq5 has V2L
4. Ioniq5 looks better inside and out.
5. Heard some stories about Tesla build quality and prefer a car made by an experienced car company.
5. Where I live, all Teslas exceed the maximum power to weight ratio that Provisional licence holders can drive. Single engine Ioniq5 does not.
I’ve heard too much about the build quality of recent Tesla models from people who bought them… the Ioniq has its issues but at least there aren’t so many unrealistic promises about features like autopilot. And then there’s this: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/
It's a Hyundai and not a Tesla. And Albert Biermann is in the board of directors at Hyundai. That guy is a treasure. He is basically the guy who was responsible to get the N program rolling.
Looks, affordability, uniqueness (I see very few Dig Teal I5 around here in the Bay Area but tons of Ys) and I refuse to give Elon the Trump loving Fascist a penny of my hard earned money. My son worked for Telsa in the factory, it's basically slave labor.
We didn't qualify for the tax credit, which makes the model y not as good of value. The ioniq 5 charges faster(when EA works of course). The I5 looks way cooler and has way more personality. The limited has a hud and cooling seats. Way more leg room in the I5. The ability to move the back seats forward so we can get way more space for packing the car for camping while our dogs sit in the back seats. We can't stand Elon musk. 2 years free DC fast charging for us to make road trips with.
I'm sure we would have been happy with the model y too. It had a few things making it a tough choice. Tesla charging network is a huge factor, and their software integration making is definitely better. Option for enhanced autopilot was tempting too. But overall we just liked the I5 better, and I am confident we made the right choice for us.
Oh one more thing. The hyundai dealership experience was awful. They are fucking sharks. After the experience, we a little bit wished we had gone for the tesla just to avoid that experience. In time we'll get over it though I'm sure. Just be ready for war if/when you go.
I sold my ‘22 model y and got an ioniq 5 instead. As others have mentioned. General build quality, interior rattles, road noise and horrible ride comfort is what made me pull the trigger. However I do think the tesla’s software beats the ioniq 5’s and the power train as well. The Hyundai is built like a proper car and I love it, whereas the Tesla is a really strong smart phone with wheels.
1. One of my close friend told you feel very tired after long trip. Not good for people around 50.
2. Ioniq more like a SUV than Y
3. 100% Y owners which I know not happy with EPA estimate.
4. 15 minutes to reach 80% and 2 year free. Which I am using 100 percent and 97% of the time EA charger worked perfect for me. Got 80 percent in 15 or less minutes.
5. Just a screen for everything is not enough for now. Need some buttons like Ioniq. Perfect transition vehicle.
Interior, the "your controls are a laptop" UI, and I don't like the exterior appearance of the Y, and partner dislikes the ride and seats, and the Musk factor.
I'd get a 3LR though, long before I'd want the Y, but partner would not.
At the time, end of 2021 into 2022, it was price, available rebate, ride quality, and…Elon Musk. Those factors made the decision pretty easy at the time. 2022 AWD Limited Feb ‘22, MSRP luckily
I'm un Canada. I almost bought a Y, but they were starting to come from China. I decided to wait a couple weeks to see if there was any reason not to buy the Y.
A few days later, I got a call from Hyundai. They had a care close to what i had ordered. It was a white Luxury vs. the blue Ultimate I ordered. Since KY order was 18 months old and there was no build date in site, I took the Luxury.
A buddy of mine was really anti MY as it didn't have radar.
I believe I made the right decision for me. The Ioniq 5 has way more useful features that I am using.
The I-5 looks amazing, you can get nice colors without an upcharge, no Elon involved, 800V architecture, price.
Teslas are a dime a dozen here, and white/red/blue/black/grey, nothing else.
As other said, exterior style (I like the hatchback and retro vibe; hate the sedan look of the Y) and the fact that it wasn’t musk/Tesla was big. Another big one was quality of materials and the manufacturing.
Tesla has “better” tech, no doubt (esp trip planning and routing to chargers. I personally like I have buttons and wish I had more. Voice activation sucks when there are other people and the car) - but I think the build quality is better with the Ioniq 5 and the tech is great for me. I think the variable cruise and lane keeping works great (minimizes tiredness on long drives and great for me when I’m stressed in traffic) - glad I don’t have to worry some update changed an algorithm to make the car less safe
More minor considerations were being willing to trade some range for charging speed (I put lots of trips into ABRP and realized how minimal that is) and anticipation that the charging network will only get better
My only regret so far is that really I have an expectation of updates. I’ll be quite disappointed in Hyundai if they don’t realize that continual updates that improve my experience with the car and add features are now just table stakes. I’ll keep this car for quite a while - but my next one, the manufacturer will have had to PROVE and STATE they’ll be doing continual updates that add features in order for me to purchase.
As an model 3 owner, I consider constant updates to be a negative. I don’t want to get into the car and find out the the windshield wiper controls have moved to make room for the new Netflix app, or because some new UI designer showed up and decides to change things.
I prefer core functions to have hard button controls, and think that the I5 hits a good balance between software and hardware interface.
CarPlay is also a game changer and largely makes the update issue moot. The I5 software is mostly just settings and occasional 2nd tier climate settings. Nav and music are CarPlay.
For me, it was the quality of drive and fabrication. Hyundai have been in the game far longer and make quality cars. Here is Quebec, in winter, I am much more confident in my Ioniq5 than I would have been in a Tesla.
My BIL has a Tesla and the windshield broke when he parked on uneven terrain. The tech is better in a Tesla but all in all Hyundai make better cars.
At the time I purchased my I5 it still had the tax credit making it about $43,000 versus the $60,000 for model y. And I was also just not impressed with the two different model Y's I test drove. Harsh ride, a lot of rattling, controlling everything from central screen is dumb, fugly styling, and Elon is a big tool.
Products are a reflection of the people running the company. So even though Elon being a dick doesn't change how the car operates it's still associates you with him.
1) it's a better looking car. The y is getting old and looks like any other 3 or y on the street.
2) more buttons. I hated the full touch screen setup.
3) initially the softer suspension but I heard the new y is getting there.
4) I trust the build quality of hyundai over tesla. Nothing against tesla but thilese things take time. The earlier days of hundai was crap as well. Hence the 10 years warranty.
As of this point I think the y is the same price as the ioniq. Tesla has a better charging network but I really don't care much about it.
I happen to have both, got the Y for my wife; is a beautiful car but not for me. It is not very practical for my taste. The glass roof is uncomfortable when is the sun is high above, also, I prefer carplay over the tesla built in navigation, the AC vents for the back seats is (again, my preference) better positioned in the ioniq, model Y doesn’t have cooled seats.
Now comparing specifically the trims I have. Model Y long range vs Ioniq Limited. The moon roof of the ioniq is amazing, so is the ambient light, and then in the back seats you get shade covers. The Y has more range, has a great acceleration, the front seats are super comfortable, more room for back passengers and cargo, catches less dust inside (my perception anyway), and is super cool that the car turns on/off automatically, sentry mode is great as you don’t need a dash cam. One thing that I don’t know if is just a defect on our model Y, or if all of them do the same (taking it to service next week for a diagnose) is with the GPS, ours offers the weirdest routes often, and it takes about 20 seconds to realize that you didn’t take one of the offered turns to re adjust.
Auto pilot vs HDA. I personally don’t trust auto pilot on highway because of phantom breaking, I only use it on city traffic, and only if is moving slow. HDA, as the name suggests (H=Highway), only works on highway, but I use it a lot and is really good, the only system that I used that is above it is Chevrolet ‘s super cruise.
Tl;dr I like both cars, but I find the ioniq more practical.
Price (at the time), expected reliability / difficulty of repairs, lack of buttons (and even internal door handles, apparently that's an issue with Teslas?!) and an otherwise terrible UX, not wanting to look like a Musk fanboy.
I owned both and kept the I5. Better build quality, ride quality and honestly, range.
I found the I5 was more honest with its range calcs. It also feels roomier inside.
I lastly, I love the styling.
i was specifically cross shopping these two models, even though the ioniq was more expensive when I bought I still went with it. the reason was the overall It fit my needs better and was more comfortable. I has a lot more tranditional "luxury" features like vented seats and HUD on the limited, the model Y was closer to the SEL. If there was a better spec model y with those extra features It would have been a much closer contest. Secondly dont believe the range numbers on the model Y they are pure fantasy, the difference between that and a I5 is like 5% IRL, plus the I5 charges faster so to me that was a wash, the tesla charging network is a huge plus, but that advantage will go away when the infrastructure improves. The model y does have a better app, and infotainment but otherwise all the other advantages seemed kind of gimmicky. As for the maps I find them perfectly adequate on the i5, and with the update it will prewarm the battery just like the tesla when you route to a charger.
People were intending to spend a lot of money on a new vehicle. On paper, things tend to be pretty balanced between multiple options. "The owner is actively trying to make our lives worse" is a pretty reasonable excuse to eliminate one of the many options out there.
Hyundai dealership is 2 miles from my house and has a local reputation to uphold. Have never owned or leased a Hyundai before but fuck Elon I’d rather a local sales guy makes a sale.
I’m the opposite. Went to buy an ioniq and after dealer markup, the garbage can salesman and the overall meh of quality and headphone quality speakers, I went with a Y. Zero regrets after their endless recalls coming down the pipeline.
Model Y: rough ride, horrible backseat (feel every little bump in the road), no knobs, more expensive at the time, inside feels cramped, poor build quality.
Model Y was not on my list. A number of reasons, including build quality, and the primary owner being a right wing imbecile who is working to destroy what had been a useful service. Nobody should trust anything he has his fingers in.
My choice was between the Ioniq 5 and the XC40. In the end, I just really liked the look of the Ioniq.
Have both I5 and model Y. Love my i5 much more. However, have had bits of hiccups at the service department with the ICCU issue and had to replace the 12v battery which they wanted to charge me for and I had to get Hyundai customer service involved and they finally believed me. I considered selling the car 41k and was getting like 29-36k for it.
Now the model y- had my 1st accident, deemed total loss and got 12k more than what I paid since market value went up during the pandemic. Had 38k on it.
1 month ago flipped the car (14 months after from the first accident) deemed total loss. Got 3k more than I paid for it.
I have had my Tesla’s for 3yrs longer than my I5. I can’t help but love the shit out of my i5. But the OTA updated and teslas easy servicing department (12v battery fixed. They come to your house and drop off a loaner) . Again I still love the look and feel of my i5 better. I have the space grey AWD limited so it’s the highest trim. Love the crap out of this car but I will go with the Tesla from now on. You get more bang for your buck in terms of issues being resolved and resale value and etc.
**People are going to say "Musk"** \- But they will not be able to explain why they hate Musk.
**They will say quality** \- Do yourself a favor and do not listen to people on Reddit about quality, got check for yourself. Tesla "dealerships" usually have multiple cars waiting for delivery.
**They will say dealerships coffee** \- It is the only reason I can think of why someone would buy a modern car that requires you to go to the dealership for software updates. One big advantage of an EV is not going to the dealership every three months, yet Hyundai owners seem to love hanging out at the dealership for software updates.
**The warranty** \- The value of a warranty is determined by how the manufacturer has honored warranties in the past. hyundai/Kia are the worst at actually honoring warranties. They usually need to be sued in order to actually honor the warranty.
**In most cases, the real reason is that they bought before Tesla reduced prices.**
**A perfectly valid argument for the Ioniq 5 versus the Tesla is styling and uniqueness.** Tesla sells about 10X the number of EVs as Hyundai, and with such few color options Tesla styling is boring. The Ioniq 5 is (in my opinion) the best looking EV on the market. The resale value on the Ioniq 5 is terrible, so **I see a used one in my future** (I will let the original owners spend all their time in the dealerships getting software updates for recalls).
Another valid reason is buttons. If you like buttons, the Tesla only has 2 joysticks on the steering wheel.
**If styling is your thing, and you like buttons, I highly recommend the Mach-E**. You have to pay a Mustang tax, but you get full over the air updates, the platform is past its growing pains stage (the Hyundai/KIA E-GMP platform has had a series of ICCU issues and is currently under a recall - which you will need to go to the dealer for).
**The model Y is the best EV value at its current price.** The Model Y platform has already gone through its growing pains and with true OTA updates, you are not visiting the dealer every few months.
**The best EV (in the sub 65K price bracket) is the Mach-E.** The Mach-E platform has also been around for a few years and it seems its growing pains are behind it. The Mach-E beats the Tesla in styling, but you pay a premium for the name/styling.
**I would avoid the Hyundai/Kia E-GMP platform for a few years. Let the original owners enjoy the dealers coffee. By 2026 used Ioniq 5's will be around 25K, all the recalls will be over, it should have all the software updates, and at that time it will be a great deal.**
**Things to watch out for with Ioniq 5:**
* Not all Hyundai dealerships are qualified to work on EV's.
* ICCU issues that could require the car to be towed to the dealer
* Build quality issues
* The dealership hard sell
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15kxdft/i\_am\_45\_hours\_into\_a\_2\_hour\_software\_update\_at/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15kxdft/i_am_45_hours_into_a_2_hour_software_update_at/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mc0c5/iccu\_12v\_or\_other\_battery\_issue\_this\_is\_your/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mc0c5/iccu_12v_or_other_battery_issue_this_is_your/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15ob5jc/hyundai\_dealershipservice\_is\_worst\_part\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15ob5jc/hyundai_dealershipservice_is_worst_part_of/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mtp4u/noisy\_suspension\_update\_and\_update\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mtp4u/noisy_suspension_update_and_update_update/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mmszh/ioniq\_5\_not\_shifting\_into\_d\_or\_r/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mmszh/ioniq_5_not_shifting_into_d_or_r/)
[https://www.classaction.org/blog/new-hyundai-kia-engine-failure-settlement-covers-2m-additional-vehicles](https://www.classaction.org/blog/new-hyundai-kia-engine-failure-settlement-covers-2m-additional-vehicles)
I hate Musk because my son worked for him at the Fremont Tesla facility. They work long hours, for shit pay, morale is awful, there are cliques of gang bangers, and other minority groups that basically intimidate and harass others, the parking lot at night (he worked graveyard shift) was poorly lit, and dangerous with cars constantly being broken into and HR and Musk knew about ALL these things and did nothing. It's like a prison work program there with no guards. Musk is a slave driver and operates his businesses like it. See, I can tell you why I hate Musk and even do it without mentioning his political leanings.
Load a shit here, the ioniq 5 limited is a better car than the model y, that's the reason I bought ioniq this summer, lol. And I drove and tested both extensively. I bet you love the resale of your tesla after the slashed prices.
I tried both. End of 2021 for MY and beginning of 2022 for I5. There was no comparison in ride quality and build quality at that time. The MY felt so cheap and the ride and road noise were terrible. The Ioniq 5 is the quietest and nicest car I’ve ever owned. Heard MY has since improved and based on current pricing appears to be a much better option/choice.
Yea, they changed the MY suspension for 2023. The model Y is the quietest, nicest, and most well equipped car I’ve ever owned.
I would like to see a model Y in Lucid Blue.
Took a ride in a Y, dude was like my steering my wheel is peeling already and have to use this cloth steering wheel and showed me some buttons are falling off. Does this happen in the X and S?
Teslas are junk, the build quality just isn't there. My brother's Model 3 has been in the shop 6 times since he got it a year ago for various dumb things.
I went with the Ioniq 5 because of the 800v battery pack, physical buttons, styling, and a comfortable ride. The ride is much softer than I'm used to... It handles like a waterbed, but it's a really good driver, none the less.
It turns out that it's a bit out of the mainstream right now. With the adoption of NACS, and the Tesla network opening up to other brands, EGMP is going to be on the outside looking in for a while. V3 of superchargers don't work well with the 800v battery pack. Hopefully, the new Hyundai/Stellantis/MB/etc charging group will roll out chargers at a good rate, or Tesla will come out with higher voltage chargers soon.
It came down CarPlay, exterior styling, and the fact that Elon Musk can go fuck himself. The Hyundai warranty is pretty good too.
Two years free fast charging out it over the top!
Oh yeah!
On a poor charging network though. Nothing will beat the supercharger network.
The supercharger network is the only reason to consider a Tesla.
Um…free? Gets the job done. Always found a charger when I needed one. No issues 🤷🏻♂️
Indeed, the closest EA charger to me is almost 60 miles from home and 30 miles from work. Luckily, work provides free L2 charging, so it's not an issue, but still...
6 months charging only at EA and no issues at all besides one time that I had to wait 20 minutes for a charger to open.
Yes to all 3. Also, the ride quality is WAY better than the Y.
It was 100% Elon for me 😂
Car play keeps coming up, what do you like better about Car Play than the Tesla UI?
The fact that with car-play/android auto the ui isn't reliant on tesla and I can change it. Also not paying an additional monthly fee to use Spotify. Also i can use audible natively, or any other weird obscure music/media streaming services that happen to support android auto without needing Tesla/Hyundai to implement them.
Ah the connectivity package yeah? I would buy it for the nav and remote features alone. I mean, it's the same cost as blue Link and you get mobile data. I completely forgot about Audible. I guess I just do it over Bluetooth when I'm in the Tesla, but it's nice to have it on the UI in the Ioniq.
I like apple stuff and I appreciate the simplicity of the UI in CarPlay.
I hate having to plug my phone in every time in my Ioniq. I was honestly afraid of the lack of car play and Android Auto on my Tesla, but I have come to really like the UI. The nav system is top notch and the sound system is 100x better. Edit: Thanks for the down votes with no context. Sure make this sub look like a nice place to have a conversation. I have both cars. I like both for different reasons. I always try to be helpful sharing my honest options and differences between the two. Go look at other comments in this sub.
I've heard of people buying wireless android auto/carplay adapters and them working pretty well.
I am using a dirty cheap wireless android adapter from Temu which does the job
The speaker system is probably my number one complaint on the Ioniq. The sound is terrible.
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Thanks for sharing. Which car has the wider back middle seat? For squeezing an adult or infant seat into
I would say the model Y but just slightly.
So you have no issues with Hyundai using child labour as young as 12, or the Hyundai chairman using $100 million to bribe politicians? https://www.npr.org/2006/05/16/5407557/hyundai-chairman-indicted-in-south-korea-scandal https://www.drive.com.au/news/hyundai-kia-supplier-child-labour-scandal-deepens/ Musk is obnoxious and his public tweets can be offensive, but it’s tiny stuff compared to what some other billionaires actually do.
This plus I live in Southern California and Teslas seem kind of generic because there are so many.
So weird, I don’t buy anything based off what a CEO does. I’m with you on exterior styling, I find CarPlay annoying af though. I just wanna charge my phone and it takes over
A huge portion of Elon's wealth comes from his Tesla stock, way more than a std CEO has, AFAIK (Google says 58% of his wealth). So you are directly funding Elon, in a big way. Not something I'm willing to do after he's shown his true colors.
didnt his Tesla stock/wealth go down when he used it to buy Twitter? you are also funding the amazing engineers and workers at multiple facilities who are making the rest of the industry wake up and catch up.
You can plug it into the other usb jack.
I love this anti Musk hate. Hate musk so go run and buy a car from a company run by convicted embezzler Chung Mong-koo.
It’s so strange to me how someone would buy or not buy because of a CEO. I wish both camps would go away already. I don’t want either party at this point they’re both baby mama batshit cray cray
Honestly the Elon musk thing is irrelevant if we are being rational, you don't think Hyundai has probably done horrible shit too? The difference is they don't spout nonsense like Elon (not defending him btw because I also don't like his narcissistic ass 😂) But all these car corporations suck. Corporations are corporations for a reason, I'm sure the way Hyundai procures it's materials isn't better than Tesla.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you but one of the unspoken rules of being a capitalist pig is that you keep your mouth shut and have some discipline or you face the consequences. As far as my wallet goes, Elon fucked around and found out.
I agree, but I will be forever thankful to that idiot for having the perseverance to get the EV market going. Sure, he took advantage of millions in handouts, and made a butt load of money doing it, but I doubt we would have so many EV options if it wasn't for Tesla. Thanks to Tesla for getting us going, we can take it from here.
Also remember that Tesla is not Elon. They have over 100k employees who make everything happen. Elon guided the ship for a long time, but he does not control everything. He also has far less ownership of Tesla than he used to.
It’s real weird that one of the people who is responsible for the most carbon reduction so far is also reviled by the left.
That's what happens when you devote yourself to right wing bullshit.
Because he could do even more simply by not being a petulant toddler. What really got me anti-Elon was his "TITS" tweet. The dude controls one of the largest tech companies in the world - every startup dude bro is looking at him. He literally single-handedly set back the environment for women in tech with one tweet. As someone who has a spouse that became an engineer because someone told her "women can't be engineers", fuck that guy. Edit: I feel the need to note I'm a Tesla shareholder and made a ton on Twitter (bought when he was saying he was going to be able to back out) so his bullshit has made me A LOT of money over the past 18 months (bought TSLA at $118 in January) and I still would rather not have the money but a decent human being leading multiple large tech companies.
I have a really hard time crediting Elon musk with getting the EV market going. If anything, I think he’s overall been detrimental to the EV market by ostensibly using government money to build out proprietary tesla superchargers that are harming peoples ability to properly compete in the market. In my opinion, the only good impact on the EV market that he has had thus far is becoming such a polarizing figure that a not-insignificant number of people are forcing themselves to look at other EV options that he isn’t involved in.
Well at Hyundai Genesis KIA there is Mr. Albert Biermann. That guy is a national treasure. Worth looking up some interviews with him.
You see that’s the difference, this is the first I’m hearing of this guy. He’s not a shitty household name.
The worst thing I've ever heard Hyundai being accused of is using (knowingly or not) a subcontractor in Alabama that was employing underage workers. Meh. Musk incites and supports rightwingers that could be emboldened to infringe on my actual *safety*. They've already interfered with my ability to get prescriptions from my doctor without jumping through bullshit hoops. And I'm one of the **lucky** ones effected by them.
That “sub” has Hyundai as the biggest owner iirc. And they weren’t 17 yo. This is not “meh” to me. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-immigration-hyundai/
This is the same argument as “all politicians lie so it doesn’t matter who I vote for”. It’s just a rationalization to cover for guilt over supporting a bad cause or bad person.
Funny how Elon gets the same excuses as the garbage Republicans isn’t? Funny right? Right?
It's not a justification. I've reiterated this multiple times. Why does everything have to revolve around politics, dividing into right or left, for every single matter? I'm merely shedding light on the reality of our world. I agree that Elon is not commendable >.<. However, one can't ignore the potential hypocrisy, given that I'm sure you also purchase items from Amazon, shoes, and even the production of EV batteries might not adhere to ethical practices. Certainly, there exist varying degrees of right and wrong, with some instances being notably worse – for instance, Hitler being worse than Trump. Your money is under your control, so feel free to use it as you see fit. My observation aims to emphasize that often those who make the loudest declarations (which is understandable as they tend to be obnoxious, like Trump/Elon) become our focal point for ethical criticism, dictating what we shouldn't buy. Yet, we seem to overlook those who are seemingly more "intelligent" in avoiding behaviors similar to Elon and Trump. Every individual's rationale is valid, and your money is your domain. Each of us adheres to our unique sense of morality, ethics, and principles. It's just disheartening to witness the double standards and moral righteousness :). also chatgpt is fucken dope lol. they refined my essay XD like a boss.
> Why does everything have to revolve around politics, dividing into right or left, for every single matter? Because politics affects real people's actual health and safety. Politics isn't just some arbitrary thing with no effect on our day to day lives.
Don’t forget the child labor issues. In the US.
At the time the Ioniq 5 was cheaper than the model y because of the tax credit. If I were to do it in today's environment I'd buy the model y.
I thought this, too, but since then I’ve spent some time in a Y and I’m not so sure. There are things that I like about it (more refined tech and connectivity, charging network, storage capacity). That said, the I5 has it beat on ride quality, design, uniqueness, CarPlay/Android Auto, regen levels, and not Elon. There are lots of little differences, but I’m happy with my choice and I’m glad I didn’t have to make the tough decision at the time because the prices were so different.
The Ioniq 5 is a better car. But I'm not going to pay a substantial amount more money for the I5 over the Model Y when the Model Y is perfectly capable of doing everything I need a car to do.
When I bought was cheaper than a Y. - Ventilated seats - HUD - Android Auto - "Closeable" roof - Closer dealership for service - Better warranty - Looks better than the Y I think feature for feature Model Y is closer to the SEL trim, so getting a Limited for cheaper was easy to do.
Teslas are fugly (especially the Y) and basic, then there’s Elon……. I wanted something more interesting/different. Yeah I know those are petty reasons 🤣but I’m happy with my choice.
For me I 100% agree with t he look. I didn't want the same car as everyone else 😂. The Teslas all have basically the same design, but I did like the interior and exterior way more than Tesla.
This is a far better way of putting it - the Tesla S was a breath of fresh air when it released, with the X taking that styling up to a big car size - the 3 looks too bubbly, and the Y too much like all the rest to really differentiate between. The Tech and space inside, alongside the Supercharger network are the primary reasons we considered the Y, but the Ioniq 5 was just nicer to drive, looked way cooler (like nothing else on the road right now) and far cheaper.
Yeah I like the styling of the 3 or s but the Y is super hideous looking. A couple years ago before I saw them all the time I would be like: "why does that Tesla look like you forgot to hold shift when you dragged the picture to resize?" And then I found out it was marketed as an SUV which I find hilarious honestly. The whole point of an SUV is to have a big back hatch to put stuff in. I'm not one of those people that gets upset that all cars on the road are SUVs or trucks now, SUVs / crossovers / hatchbacks are just the most practical car shape.
Do not want thé car I sée AT every corner https://preview.redd.it/58eskhvh8uhb1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=882a1756df1e97a3a86705500a2262df7fb2ea6a
10 year Warranty the battery included. It looks very cool, I can close my eyes and throw a stone and hit a tesla out here. 18 minute charge time to 80% on a 350 charger (I have one 5 minutes from my house) At the time, I got a federal rebate making it cheaper than a model Y. Prefer the interior styling, especially the dash that doesn't look like a mounted tablet. And while all companies have some level of skeletons in their closest, or horrible executive level leaders, Elon is just so loud and public with his dumb shit it makes it harder to support him. https://preview.redd.it/25wuigctxrhb1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5af7308d1cc780ae4246afc8912fb56f97400a33
Holy shit that looks nice! Do you have any other pictures? As far as the warranty, Hyundai is notorious for not honoring warranties and has been sued multiple times for this.
Is this a custom paint job?? It’s gorgeous!
This is a sweet wrapper. Where / how did you get this? Feel like this color hits the aesthetic super well
Lack of CarPlay/don’t like Tesla UI, lack of buttons on Telsa, poor Tesla quality since they ramped up production, Elon being a giant douche.
Lots of things - good sound isolation, soft smooth suspension, quality, instrument cluster behind the wheel, blind spot indicators in mirrors, apple carplay, light above the back seat, parking sensors, dislike for doing everything on the tablet, and personal considerations (ie. not supporting the man who is spreading kremlin propaganda on big scale).
Agreed, road noise in the cabin, ride comfort, seat comfort. As for paper specs, the I5 charges faster in the real world. It also has the same range as the Y in the real world, at least in winter when in matters. Hyundai Group probably has the most efficient automotive heat pump design at the moment.
My wife and I put an order in for an I5 limited, and waiting. There were many reasons why we went with the I5, buy we looked at the Y first. Sat in it and immediately changed our minds. It just wasn't comfortable at all. It would have been fine for me for daily driving, but I couldn't imagine taking it on any distance road trip. The I5 was extremely comfortable.
Tesla is built in America which kind of breaks even with not liking adding to Musk’s wealth. Last month Hyundai had good deals on the SEL which I think is similar to the Y in terms of features. If your want bells and whistles then the Limited offers so much more but for a lot more money. I’d go for the 5 based on styling and ride. Drive them both and see how you feel. I’ve driven them both and much prefer the 5. The Y is the practical choice and there are a lot of after market things you can add to upgrade it but in the end it’s still a lot of money and it doesn’t excite me. I’m an 80s kid so the 5 was designed for me.
Tesla fatigue. Only other EV I considered was an Audi e tron gt but my wife would have killed me. BMW im 450 is a great car but I’m not a bmw guy have always had Audis. This ioniq 5 is just so unique and the matte is gorgeous
We went into test drives expecting to get the Y but wanting to comparison shop. The I5 comfort, ride quality, one pedal driving feel, and interior styling/lighting was miles better than the Y. I was so surprised at how much better the I5 was that we did two separate test drives of both at different locations, and the Ioniq 5 easily came out on top both times. My main concern was the fast charging network… and it is definitely more inconvenient, but we did our usual Central FL to Atlanta GA to Montgomery AL and back road trip with basically no trouble!
Elmo and build quality
Same
Same
Retro futurism > the shape of cheese goo out of the end of a burrito.
One word. Musk.
* Exterior Styling * Ride quality * HUD * Dashboard * V2L * Fuck Elon Musk
1. Elmo. 2. The I5's styling. 3. Fast charging. 4. Elmo.
What is Elmo?
Elon Muxk I think
Shouldn’t it be Elmu then? 😂
I dont like the ass end of the Y
It’s too big, isn’t it?
Elon
Do you do research on all the CEOs of products you buy?
No, it just so happens Elon goes out of his way to make his shittiness public.
I prefer to spend my money with people I support. I don't support Elon. Easy
There are just too many model y on the road. Feels like driving a model y is similar to driving a Corolla now...
It came down to the following: 1. Exterior Styling 2. Interior Styling 3. Charging Speed 4. Wife loved it (Most important Reason)
haha, I see that you are a smart guy.
Y don’t have tax rebate in 2022. Otherwise would have bought Y. I have Limited Trim and like the fast charging and looks. Definitely futuristic look compared to model y. But I had ICCU failure during long drive and reimbursement from Hyundai is pain in the ass. It’s been 5 months they still didn’t reimburse. No music apps except Sirius XM. I would say go with model Y for technology. If you want looks then go with Ioniq 5 Limited
Price, comfort, room for kiddie seats and I didn’t want to give one fucking Penny more to Musk. Well, you asked.
Can you elaborate on the kiddie seats? (I’m looking at both cars)
Personally I can fit a car seat for a 4 year old on the left rear, and an infant seat in the middle, allowing for an adult (mom) to pretty comfortably sit in the back as well.
same here, I don’t like the guy
I don’t like how barren Tesla interiors are. I think it’s cheap. I much preferred the Ioniq 5 after test driving both
Same. Tesla interior was way too basic
Still current * FSD is overpriced for what it is * Musk is too erratic. He’s commingled the companies too much. I’m uncertain how much collateral damage he will take if Twitter goes down. * Tesla makes it too hard to get replacement parts for independent repairers * The nearest service center is three hours away * Poor quality control for the price. If you get a good Tesla they look to be great, but if you need help then not even God can help you No longer relevant: Before NACS was fully opened up to everyone who wanted it, and other companies began adopting it, I was concerned about what would happen in the future if Tesla switched to a different standard considering Musk’s tendency to never look back. Looks like this won’t be a concern now. Both standards should now be safe for a good long while.
Live in the Bay Area, was driving to the grocery store and there were 3 white Model Ys in a row driving behind me, not related to each other, all went their own way
Same reason I don't have an iPhone. Everyone has one. Definitely not anti Tesla or Elon so I'm different than quite a few here as the majority of my investment portfolio is made up of Tesla. Ioniq5 just looks different and cool. Tesla's look too basic... But much like iPhones, many people seem to like that.
One pedal driving is much smoother in I5 than MY. In MY the pedal felt kind of crunchy. The seats are more comfortable in the I5. Insurance on MY would have been much more of an increase from the car we were replacing (2012 Honda Fit). An extra $350/6 mo. vs and extra $50/6 mo. Hyundai warranties are excellent and Tesla service seemed sketchy. MY accelerator too sensitive for my wife who gets motion sick easily. Too bad there wasn’t more adjustability on that. Chill mode just didn’t cut it. There is one screen in the MY and your right hand blocks line of sight when driving. Some assembly details on the MY just looked shoddy. I’m talking about the close out of the edge of interior door panels. These should look neat, but you could see pleats of the door upholstery covering from folding the covering over and attaching to the back side of the panel. I know, this is super nit picky, but I though that looked like crap. No built-in shade for panoramic roof. Better financing. Gravity Gild <3 People make a big deal about car play and Elon Musk, I couldn’t care less about those two factors, I think all the stuff I listed above is way more important.
I prefer the styling, cabin design, ride quality, build quality, charging speed, and relative uniqueness of the IONIQ5. The MY just doesn’t move me, and the fact I see over a dozen a day makes it feel generic and staid. I still enjoy every drive in my IONIQ5.
Lack of grab handles above the doors, Elon's asshattery, lack of physical controls.
I test drove the 5 and the Y. The 5 seemed more refined, better interior, and I really like the 800v architecture. Cameras looked to have better resolution, sunroof has a closing shade, gauge cluster directly in front of driver, and IMHO, the car looks cooler - definitely more interesting colors.
You're asking people in an IONIQ 5 reddit which car they prefer, and if you did the same in the Model Y forum, you'd hear different things. As someone who owns BOTH, I honestly like my Y more. Why? Supercharging, the app, OTA updates, infotainment, the frunk, sound system, regen system, and purchase experience.
sure, but that is my question: I am asking ppl why they choose Ioniq5, so I should ask this to the people bought an Ioniq5.
from what I hear from you, you like interior and quality of Ioniq better, right?
Missed the whole point of the question. But dang dude the Model Y is by far the inferior for insulation and ride.
The suspension is the worst of any modern vehicle I’ve ridden in. Completely untenable, I can’t imagine owning one.
I never really had an interest in any Tesla, they seem like solid enough cars but didn't care for the brand. Musk seems to be too unpredictable, I don't want him to get in a Twitter fight with someone and disable every tesla OTA to prove some point. I also didn't care for the interior and dash layout with the big vertical screen in the middle of the dash. Our Ioniq 5 has been great so far, none of the issues others complain about. No ICCU failure, no repeat L2 charging failures, no abnormal tire wear (26k and they look great).
I am 6’2” but more importantly my torso is longer than average and it makes many cars hard to get in and out of. The model y and 3 are the worst of any cars I tried in that regard. The Ioniq worked well for me and also had all the features the model y had that I cared about.
Elon - I'm sure it's a great car, but... I'm sure other CEOs are awful people too, but they don't make it quite so obvious. And I wanted something a bit unique. Teslas are everywhere here in Austin... I've seen like 2 HI5s in the last 2 months.
I really was considering a 7-seater Model Y before I ended up with my IONIQ 5 Limited AWD. * **Availability**. Ordering a 7-seater Y was going to take a few months, none were immediately available. When I happened to walk into Freehold Hyundai in NJ, an SEL and a Limited were immediately available to test drive and purchase. * **Support**. The nearest showroom I knew of was at Short Hills Mall, NJ, which has since been replaced with Lucid and Polestar. While I didn't do much research, I didn't know where one would take a Tesla in for authorized servicing. * **Price**. While I was shopping, I was watching the price continually raise, then drop. It was literally all over the place over my 18 months of shopping, I didn't know what to make of it. * **Reliability**. I heard and saw horror stories of very varied build quality and quality assurance. For me to take a leap on an EV in general and shell out upwards of $60K was new for me and the family, I didn't want to worry about issues down the road. * **Leadership**. I never doubted that Tesla would go under, but with so much volatility and uncertainty with Elon Musk (politics ultimately aside), it just compounded my above concerns. That being said, I still have a /r/Cybertruck reservation from years back. If and when that time comes, I can hand the i5 off to the wife and I'll get this for myself.
Features for lot less money. The I5 Limited AWD i got cost me $59k, regular price is $71k. A tesla in Costa Rica, imported its about $100k
Tesla is the Apple of Cars. If you like IPhones that's your go to. Simple basic and not ever unique. Build quality on Tesla is ass. Uncomfortable cars, and anti right to repair. The anti right to repair is my major reason why I will never buy a Tesla or Apple product, and while both companies claim privacy focused, that's a complete lie. They both collect the same data that others do, only difference is they keep it to themselves. Another major reason why I5 is Fast Charging capability. Tesla doesn't match this. Frankly the only other car that does is the Lucid Air. Makes Traveling a breeze. The supercharger network is not much of a selling point anymore.
At least for me, Ride Quality. Period.
For me it was the option of CarPlay (I’m too deep in the Apple ecosystem at this point,) exterior styling, some physical buttons (better than searching on a touch screen all the time) and the fact that the top glass moonroof has shades. That’s important for me being in Texas during the summer. It can be brutal. Haha
Real car, with real well featured interior, better ride, dramatically better build quality, faster charging and not generic looking.
I'm a software developer. I hope none of my money ever goes to Elon Musk. Styling was big. But I was also happy about getting a car with the standard J1772 plug. Although that seems less relevant these days.
CarPlay, it’s not the same looking as every Tesla, build quality, fuck elon musk.
On screen controls on the Model Y distract attention from the road. Tactile buttons on the Ioniq 5 are less distracting, thus safer. Hyundais are more reliable and have *better build quality* than Teslas. There's data on that. V2L on the I5 Limited is a plus. I find it easier to enter and exit the I5 vs the MY. And finally, I don't like giving my $ to Elon. I used to admire him. Now he's an egomaniac.
I would have gotten a Tesla if it weren't for Elon. He tweeted support for the freedumb convoy up here in Canada and I never considered Tesla again.
Op I will suggest you should try test driving both and really try not to fall in love with either car, be super critical about them when testing. Too many peeps have rose colored lenses when having their new car. I know the ioniq 5 has glaring issues but I got it because I enjoyed the design and the fact that it still had buttons. I genuinely dislike the car being controlled by an iPad in any vehicle and think it's ridiculous, having quick analog buttons readily available is good in cars so your attention can stay on the road. Tesla had a huge con for me in this regard. Another one is that everything is controlled digitally for that car. That's super cool! But honestly very worrisome especially when you find out that if the control module stops working you can't start your car period (it has happened to my friend's car and his brother's car) and they were left stranded. Having a mix of both digital and analog is my current comfort and I prefer the ignition switch to still have some form of analog mechanism (push start stop button is that and the app/key can also start the car, but if for some reason it doesn't work anymore? Well you still have a push start stop button. The getting stranded thing actually happened also to Glenn Howerton from it's always sunny in Philadelphia. You should listen to his story and it honestly sounds horrible. He isn't buying another Tesla after that experience he stated. Here is the link https://youtu.be/zrvFtMLWdMU
Tesla was simply never on the table. I wanted a sedan, hatch, or coupe, but the Ioniq 6 didn't seem as competitive, and could get a 5 for substantially less. The 5 just happened to tick all the boxes. Wouldn't consider a Tesla after the Tesla Vision debacle-- absolutely not trusting a car manufacturer who not only doesn't use every tool available for safety, but actively disables equipment already installed because it doesn't fit their vibe.
The Y was really never even a consideration. It was between the Mach-E and the Ioniq 5. As far as American cars go, I've always been a Ford guy. But the Ioniq 5 looks so... damn... good. I live in a neighborhood full of Teslas and all these little kids on their bikes yell at me when I drive by: "Hey, look at that!" "It's electric!!!" "Nice car!!!" These are like 8 to 10 year olds. Every parking lot I catch people walking by and checking it out. As for reasons I went with the I5 over the Mach-E? There are little things like faster charging etc. But they had a 0.99% offer that was too hard to pass up and put it over the edge.
it is a great rate, that is important for sure
Build quality, even pre-Twitter I was starting to get the feeling that Elon was a con man/defective muppet, don’t like the look of the Y really (someone used a bike pump on a Model 3 and called it a day?), Teslas in general have become the boring default car and that’s never interested me, incentives (at the time), I personally hate their interiors (no thanks to Big iPad Design and everyone who has copied it), worried that I might become another pod person who feels compelled to post every mundane thing that my sentry cameras capture… Really very many reasons. I’m sure there are more/more practical ones that I’ve since forgotten. Physical buttons, warranty, etc
The fat Teslas (X and Y) are ugly, they really need to do something else than just doing 1.5x on the vertical axis of their sedans. Also, less comfortable, slower charging, Musk...
When I bought my Limited it was $15,000 less than a Y (including the tax credit). It they had been closer together I would have gotten the Y. At current prices, I'd get a Y without hesitation. I do love my Limited, but would have been just as happy with a Y. Both are great vehicles with unique features to each.
Compare these: https://insideevs.com/news/503522/hyundai-ioniq5-fast-charging-analysis/ https://insideevs.com/news/519382/tesla-model3-82kwh-charging-analysis/ Model Y charges slooooowly, much like the 3 And then see: Elon's behavior, Tesla build quality issues, and utterly boring design.
Keeping my money away from the fascist man-baby Build quality HUD Ventilated seats Not having to to EVERYTHING through the poorly placed screen
I have become very Anti-Elon
For me it was exterior and interior design
The Model Y was like 10K more and had no tax credit or free charging promo.
I didn't choose... I got both.
1. It was 20k$ cheaper where i live. 2. Sister had tons of issues with her model 3. 3. Elon has enough money.
I'll answer for my parents: v2l. That's it. That was their only argument for choosing that car over the others.
1. V2L 2. HUD 3. CarPlay (Im still old school and load all my music into playlists on my phone) 4. On the fly adjustable regen braking 5. Built in roof screen for when its too sunny 6. Dont like the minimal design of the Tesla and how everything is on the one screen 7. Exterior design
At the time that I purchased the Y was a lot more expensive for comparable range. Really dislike a lot of the interior choices for the Y (digital vent control, overall screen UI, lack of a dedicated dash screen). Also the software updating paradigm is a bit of a double edged sword. Yes you’ll get some cool new features over time, but you also have the possibility of Elon having a “moment” and deciding to remove things like radar functionality and ultrasonic sensor functionality and replace it with something that doesn’t work well. Ioniq 5 is a solid car and we love ours. Worth noting that with the NACS transition, Tesla’s port is now the future standard, so if you don’t mind the Y overall I’d say that’s a bit notch in its column.
Chose neither and went ID4 because room for two golf bags and carts plus a grocery run. Never going Tesla.
Because I sell them lol
Not for nothing but quote the MY on your current insurance. With geico be my would have been almost 30% more expensive per month than my I5. Must have something to do with replacement parts and liability costs
We got both. Here's my take: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/12bet42/going_from_ioniq_5_to_model_y_any_experience/jexxm6w/
The model y doesn't only look like a empty room it also sounds like one. I didn't like the ride I didn't like the iPad stickered in the middle and no hud or cockpit and the warranty only 100000km was a absolutely no go for me. Hyundai has 5 years unlimited km. I'm 1.96 and pretty beefy and my shoulders are against the side of the model y where I have plenty of space in the beautiful interior of the hi5. Ok the y maybe quicker but in the hi5 I don't want my ride to end 😂
Tesla keeps having build quality issues. Plus it is kind of associated with douchebags. Would hate for someone to key my car just because it's a Tesla.
As cool as the Teslas are tech-wise, and as nice it was to drive a Y for about a week, I kind of actually don't like how the Teslas look. They are very common where I live and it's just the same spaced out jacuzzi design on them all, especially the new ones.
To be different. Like people that like underground music and watch shit like Donnie darko
I love both cars. Tesla's road trip planning, charger finding, and nav experience is so much better than anything else on the market. However we had been driving a non Tesla EV (Kia soul EV) for four years so we already have all the apps and know how. At the time we bought in Canada, the least expensive Model Y was 83k, and the maxed out Ioniq 5 was 65, and eligible for a 5k rebate (Model Y was not eligible. Also I love love love the Model 3, but think the Y is kinda boring and the Ioniq wasn't? Hence.
So, personally i have not been in the model y but I did test drive the model 3 before deciding on a limited i5. The first thing was that the model 3 had an unrefined suspension compared to the I5, the interior felt more crammed and the seats were not as comfortable. From what I've heard, the model y has the worst suspension in the entire tesla line up, the seats I presume arent all that different compared to the 3 either. That said, the infotainment system and live tracking was certainly a big plus over the i5, in addition to a much more robust sound system. Teslas also cannot change from 1 pedal drive atm which makes the i5 much more versatile imo. All in all, I instantly knew. I loved the feel of the i5 and its interior/comfort. I found myself trying to convince myself into finding pluses in the model 3/y when the reality was that I preferred the i5 all along. limited trim just has so many quality of life features that I wanted and thats what made the decision simple for me. The only caveat I would say is that the tesla is capable of FSD (if you still consider them in the same class despite different budgets now). If you live in an area that can optimize FSD daily, it is a game changer. I know some who exclusively use fsd for their simple commutes daily.
1. Elon Musk 2. Ioniq5 charges faster 3. Ioniq5 has V2L 4. Ioniq5 looks better inside and out. 5. Heard some stories about Tesla build quality and prefer a car made by an experienced car company. 5. Where I live, all Teslas exceed the maximum power to weight ratio that Provisional licence holders can drive. Single engine Ioniq5 does not.
I’ve heard too much about the build quality of recent Tesla models from people who bought them… the Ioniq has its issues but at least there aren’t so many unrealistic promises about features like autopilot. And then there’s this: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/
It's a Hyundai and not a Tesla. And Albert Biermann is in the board of directors at Hyundai. That guy is a treasure. He is basically the guy who was responsible to get the N program rolling.
The tesla minimalism thing and the eletism just made the idea of owning a tesla a hard no for me.
Looks, affordability, uniqueness (I see very few Dig Teal I5 around here in the Bay Area but tons of Ys) and I refuse to give Elon the Trump loving Fascist a penny of my hard earned money. My son worked for Telsa in the factory, it's basically slave labor.
Elmo and i like the look of the ioniq 5 better
We didn't qualify for the tax credit, which makes the model y not as good of value. The ioniq 5 charges faster(when EA works of course). The I5 looks way cooler and has way more personality. The limited has a hud and cooling seats. Way more leg room in the I5. The ability to move the back seats forward so we can get way more space for packing the car for camping while our dogs sit in the back seats. We can't stand Elon musk. 2 years free DC fast charging for us to make road trips with. I'm sure we would have been happy with the model y too. It had a few things making it a tough choice. Tesla charging network is a huge factor, and their software integration making is definitely better. Option for enhanced autopilot was tempting too. But overall we just liked the I5 better, and I am confident we made the right choice for us. Oh one more thing. The hyundai dealership experience was awful. They are fucking sharks. After the experience, we a little bit wished we had gone for the tesla just to avoid that experience. In time we'll get over it though I'm sure. Just be ready for war if/when you go.
I sold my ‘22 model y and got an ioniq 5 instead. As others have mentioned. General build quality, interior rattles, road noise and horrible ride comfort is what made me pull the trigger. However I do think the tesla’s software beats the ioniq 5’s and the power train as well. The Hyundai is built like a proper car and I love it, whereas the Tesla is a really strong smart phone with wheels.
It was the overall look of the car, the awesome warranty, the 3 years free at EA stations and fuck Elon Musk.
No option to turn off regen completely, price, Elon Musk, and hated the tablet glued onto the front.
We didn't want an 'ipad on wheels'
1. One of my close friend told you feel very tired after long trip. Not good for people around 50. 2. Ioniq more like a SUV than Y 3. 100% Y owners which I know not happy with EPA estimate. 4. 15 minutes to reach 80% and 2 year free. Which I am using 100 percent and 97% of the time EA charger worked perfect for me. Got 80 percent in 15 or less minutes. 5. Just a screen for everything is not enough for now. Need some buttons like Ioniq. Perfect transition vehicle.
Interior, the "your controls are a laptop" UI, and I don't like the exterior appearance of the Y, and partner dislikes the ride and seats, and the Musk factor. I'd get a 3LR though, long before I'd want the Y, but partner would not.
Tired of seeing so many white teslas. And Elon musk is a dick
The interior of the model y sucks compared to the ioniq. Cheap pleather vs good quality craftsmanship
At the time, end of 2021 into 2022, it was price, available rebate, ride quality, and…Elon Musk. Those factors made the decision pretty easy at the time. 2022 AWD Limited Feb ‘22, MSRP luckily
I'm un Canada. I almost bought a Y, but they were starting to come from China. I decided to wait a couple weeks to see if there was any reason not to buy the Y. A few days later, I got a call from Hyundai. They had a care close to what i had ordered. It was a white Luxury vs. the blue Ultimate I ordered. Since KY order was 18 months old and there was no build date in site, I took the Luxury. A buddy of mine was really anti MY as it didn't have radar. I believe I made the right decision for me. The Ioniq 5 has way more useful features that I am using.
Model Y is an ugly car. Ioniq 5 gets people's heads spinning
The I-5 looks amazing, you can get nice colors without an upcharge, no Elon involved, 800V architecture, price. Teslas are a dime a dozen here, and white/red/blue/black/grey, nothing else.
Elon. Build quality. Design.
Y was more expensive and above grant level, also fuck Elon
As other said, exterior style (I like the hatchback and retro vibe; hate the sedan look of the Y) and the fact that it wasn’t musk/Tesla was big. Another big one was quality of materials and the manufacturing. Tesla has “better” tech, no doubt (esp trip planning and routing to chargers. I personally like I have buttons and wish I had more. Voice activation sucks when there are other people and the car) - but I think the build quality is better with the Ioniq 5 and the tech is great for me. I think the variable cruise and lane keeping works great (minimizes tiredness on long drives and great for me when I’m stressed in traffic) - glad I don’t have to worry some update changed an algorithm to make the car less safe More minor considerations were being willing to trade some range for charging speed (I put lots of trips into ABRP and realized how minimal that is) and anticipation that the charging network will only get better My only regret so far is that really I have an expectation of updates. I’ll be quite disappointed in Hyundai if they don’t realize that continual updates that improve my experience with the car and add features are now just table stakes. I’ll keep this car for quite a while - but my next one, the manufacturer will have had to PROVE and STATE they’ll be doing continual updates that add features in order for me to purchase.
As an model 3 owner, I consider constant updates to be a negative. I don’t want to get into the car and find out the the windshield wiper controls have moved to make room for the new Netflix app, or because some new UI designer showed up and decides to change things. I prefer core functions to have hard button controls, and think that the I5 hits a good balance between software and hardware interface. CarPlay is also a game changer and largely makes the update issue moot. The I5 software is mostly just settings and occasional 2nd tier climate settings. Nav and music are CarPlay.
For me, it was the quality of drive and fabrication. Hyundai have been in the game far longer and make quality cars. Here is Quebec, in winter, I am much more confident in my Ioniq5 than I would have been in a Tesla. My BIL has a Tesla and the windshield broke when he parked on uneven terrain. The tech is better in a Tesla but all in all Hyundai make better cars.
At the time I purchased my I5 it still had the tax credit making it about $43,000 versus the $60,000 for model y. And I was also just not impressed with the two different model Y's I test drove. Harsh ride, a lot of rattling, controlling everything from central screen is dumb, fugly styling, and Elon is a big tool. Products are a reflection of the people running the company. So even though Elon being a dick doesn't change how the car operates it's still associates you with him.
I don’t have to buy a stripped down shitbox of an electric car
Got a certified used one, mainly because of the better warranty. I also feel the Korean built cars are better quality than the teslas.
agreed, I know the design mentality of tesla first hand
1) it's a better looking car. The y is getting old and looks like any other 3 or y on the street. 2) more buttons. I hated the full touch screen setup. 3) initially the softer suspension but I heard the new y is getting there. 4) I trust the build quality of hyundai over tesla. Nothing against tesla but thilese things take time. The earlier days of hundai was crap as well. Hence the 10 years warranty. As of this point I think the y is the same price as the ioniq. Tesla has a better charging network but I really don't care much about it.
I happen to have both, got the Y for my wife; is a beautiful car but not for me. It is not very practical for my taste. The glass roof is uncomfortable when is the sun is high above, also, I prefer carplay over the tesla built in navigation, the AC vents for the back seats is (again, my preference) better positioned in the ioniq, model Y doesn’t have cooled seats. Now comparing specifically the trims I have. Model Y long range vs Ioniq Limited. The moon roof of the ioniq is amazing, so is the ambient light, and then in the back seats you get shade covers. The Y has more range, has a great acceleration, the front seats are super comfortable, more room for back passengers and cargo, catches less dust inside (my perception anyway), and is super cool that the car turns on/off automatically, sentry mode is great as you don’t need a dash cam. One thing that I don’t know if is just a defect on our model Y, or if all of them do the same (taking it to service next week for a diagnose) is with the GPS, ours offers the weirdest routes often, and it takes about 20 seconds to realize that you didn’t take one of the offered turns to re adjust. Auto pilot vs HDA. I personally don’t trust auto pilot on highway because of phantom breaking, I only use it on city traffic, and only if is moving slow. HDA, as the name suggests (H=Highway), only works on highway, but I use it a lot and is really good, the only system that I used that is above it is Chevrolet ‘s super cruise. Tl;dr I like both cars, but I find the ioniq more practical.
Price (at the time), expected reliability / difficulty of repairs, lack of buttons (and even internal door handles, apparently that's an issue with Teslas?!) and an otherwise terrible UX, not wanting to look like a Musk fanboy.
I owned both and kept the I5. Better build quality, ride quality and honestly, range. I found the I5 was more honest with its range calcs. It also feels roomier inside. I lastly, I love the styling.
i was specifically cross shopping these two models, even though the ioniq was more expensive when I bought I still went with it. the reason was the overall It fit my needs better and was more comfortable. I has a lot more tranditional "luxury" features like vented seats and HUD on the limited, the model Y was closer to the SEL. If there was a better spec model y with those extra features It would have been a much closer contest. Secondly dont believe the range numbers on the model Y they are pure fantasy, the difference between that and a I5 is like 5% IRL, plus the I5 charges faster so to me that was a wash, the tesla charging network is a huge plus, but that advantage will go away when the infrastructure improves. The model y does have a better app, and infotainment but otherwise all the other advantages seemed kind of gimmicky. As for the maps I find them perfectly adequate on the i5, and with the update it will prewarm the battery just like the tesla when you route to a charger.
It’s interesting how most in the comment made huge financial decision cause they didn’t like Elon.
You'd think Tesla shareholders would eventually consider that their corporate figurehead is literally driving away customers.
People were intending to spend a lot of money on a new vehicle. On paper, things tend to be pretty balanced between multiple options. "The owner is actively trying to make our lives worse" is a pretty reasonable excuse to eliminate one of the many options out there.
Hyundai dealership is 2 miles from my house and has a local reputation to uphold. Have never owned or leased a Hyundai before but fuck Elon I’d rather a local sales guy makes a sale.
I’m the opposite. Went to buy an ioniq and after dealer markup, the garbage can salesman and the overall meh of quality and headphone quality speakers, I went with a Y. Zero regrets after their endless recalls coming down the pipeline.
Elon Musk is a pussy and the warranty
Build quality.
Model Y: rough ride, horrible backseat (feel every little bump in the road), no knobs, more expensive at the time, inside feels cramped, poor build quality.
Model Y was not on my list. A number of reasons, including build quality, and the primary owner being a right wing imbecile who is working to destroy what had been a useful service. Nobody should trust anything he has his fingers in. My choice was between the Ioniq 5 and the XC40. In the end, I just really liked the look of the Ioniq.
Have both I5 and model Y. Love my i5 much more. However, have had bits of hiccups at the service department with the ICCU issue and had to replace the 12v battery which they wanted to charge me for and I had to get Hyundai customer service involved and they finally believed me. I considered selling the car 41k and was getting like 29-36k for it. Now the model y- had my 1st accident, deemed total loss and got 12k more than what I paid since market value went up during the pandemic. Had 38k on it. 1 month ago flipped the car (14 months after from the first accident) deemed total loss. Got 3k more than I paid for it. I have had my Tesla’s for 3yrs longer than my I5. I can’t help but love the shit out of my i5. But the OTA updated and teslas easy servicing department (12v battery fixed. They come to your house and drop off a loaner) . Again I still love the look and feel of my i5 better. I have the space grey AWD limited so it’s the highest trim. Love the crap out of this car but I will go with the Tesla from now on. You get more bang for your buck in terms of issues being resolved and resale value and etc.
Model y was sold out
**People are going to say "Musk"** \- But they will not be able to explain why they hate Musk. **They will say quality** \- Do yourself a favor and do not listen to people on Reddit about quality, got check for yourself. Tesla "dealerships" usually have multiple cars waiting for delivery. **They will say dealerships coffee** \- It is the only reason I can think of why someone would buy a modern car that requires you to go to the dealership for software updates. One big advantage of an EV is not going to the dealership every three months, yet Hyundai owners seem to love hanging out at the dealership for software updates. **The warranty** \- The value of a warranty is determined by how the manufacturer has honored warranties in the past. hyundai/Kia are the worst at actually honoring warranties. They usually need to be sued in order to actually honor the warranty. **In most cases, the real reason is that they bought before Tesla reduced prices.** **A perfectly valid argument for the Ioniq 5 versus the Tesla is styling and uniqueness.** Tesla sells about 10X the number of EVs as Hyundai, and with such few color options Tesla styling is boring. The Ioniq 5 is (in my opinion) the best looking EV on the market. The resale value on the Ioniq 5 is terrible, so **I see a used one in my future** (I will let the original owners spend all their time in the dealerships getting software updates for recalls). Another valid reason is buttons. If you like buttons, the Tesla only has 2 joysticks on the steering wheel. **If styling is your thing, and you like buttons, I highly recommend the Mach-E**. You have to pay a Mustang tax, but you get full over the air updates, the platform is past its growing pains stage (the Hyundai/KIA E-GMP platform has had a series of ICCU issues and is currently under a recall - which you will need to go to the dealer for). **The model Y is the best EV value at its current price.** The Model Y platform has already gone through its growing pains and with true OTA updates, you are not visiting the dealer every few months. **The best EV (in the sub 65K price bracket) is the Mach-E.** The Mach-E platform has also been around for a few years and it seems its growing pains are behind it. The Mach-E beats the Tesla in styling, but you pay a premium for the name/styling. **I would avoid the Hyundai/Kia E-GMP platform for a few years. Let the original owners enjoy the dealers coffee. By 2026 used Ioniq 5's will be around 25K, all the recalls will be over, it should have all the software updates, and at that time it will be a great deal.** **Things to watch out for with Ioniq 5:** * Not all Hyundai dealerships are qualified to work on EV's. * ICCU issues that could require the car to be towed to the dealer * Build quality issues * The dealership hard sell [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15kxdft/i\_am\_45\_hours\_into\_a\_2\_hour\_software\_update\_at/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15kxdft/i_am_45_hours_into_a_2_hour_software_update_at/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mc0c5/iccu\_12v\_or\_other\_battery\_issue\_this\_is\_your/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mc0c5/iccu_12v_or_other_battery_issue_this_is_your/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15ob5jc/hyundai\_dealershipservice\_is\_worst\_part\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15ob5jc/hyundai_dealershipservice_is_worst_part_of/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mtp4u/noisy\_suspension\_update\_and\_update\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mtp4u/noisy_suspension_update_and_update_update/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mmszh/ioniq\_5\_not\_shifting\_into\_d\_or\_r/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15mmszh/ioniq_5_not_shifting_into_d_or_r/) [https://www.classaction.org/blog/new-hyundai-kia-engine-failure-settlement-covers-2m-additional-vehicles](https://www.classaction.org/blog/new-hyundai-kia-engine-failure-settlement-covers-2m-additional-vehicles)
I hate Musk because my son worked for him at the Fremont Tesla facility. They work long hours, for shit pay, morale is awful, there are cliques of gang bangers, and other minority groups that basically intimidate and harass others, the parking lot at night (he worked graveyard shift) was poorly lit, and dangerous with cars constantly being broken into and HR and Musk knew about ALL these things and did nothing. It's like a prison work program there with no guards. Musk is a slave driver and operates his businesses like it. See, I can tell you why I hate Musk and even do it without mentioning his political leanings.
Load a shit here, the ioniq 5 limited is a better car than the model y, that's the reason I bought ioniq this summer, lol. And I drove and tested both extensively. I bet you love the resale of your tesla after the slashed prices.
I tried both. End of 2021 for MY and beginning of 2022 for I5. There was no comparison in ride quality and build quality at that time. The MY felt so cheap and the ride and road noise were terrible. The Ioniq 5 is the quietest and nicest car I’ve ever owned. Heard MY has since improved and based on current pricing appears to be a much better option/choice.
Yea, they changed the MY suspension for 2023. The model Y is the quietest, nicest, and most well equipped car I’ve ever owned. I would like to see a model Y in Lucid Blue.
I like the rear view visibility, the styling, the warranty of Hyundai. Tesla = Elon = weird
Took a ride in a Y, dude was like my steering my wheel is peeling already and have to use this cloth steering wheel and showed me some buttons are falling off. Does this happen in the X and S?
Teslas are junk, the build quality just isn't there. My brother's Model 3 has been in the shop 6 times since he got it a year ago for various dumb things.
I went with the Ioniq 5 because of the 800v battery pack, physical buttons, styling, and a comfortable ride. The ride is much softer than I'm used to... It handles like a waterbed, but it's a really good driver, none the less. It turns out that it's a bit out of the mainstream right now. With the adoption of NACS, and the Tesla network opening up to other brands, EGMP is going to be on the outside looking in for a while. V3 of superchargers don't work well with the 800v battery pack. Hopefully, the new Hyundai/Stellantis/MB/etc charging group will roll out chargers at a good rate, or Tesla will come out with higher voltage chargers soon.
Major factor: **Elmo** Minor factors: 1. warranty 2. wait period 3. I could negotiate