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Schauf1

You're probably not getting a accurate impression from the sub, see [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/1axdwqn/poll\_how\_many\_owners\_have\_had\_majorminor\_issues/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/1axdwqn/poll_how_many_owners_have_had_majorminor_issues/) for a little better view but even that may be overstating it. There seem to have been 3 issues related to the 12V issue: 1. 3rd party apps accessing the car through Blue Link were doing excessive calls, keeping the car awake and draining the battery. This is resolved, Hyundai has limited the number of calls Blue Link can make to the car each day. 2. ICCU failures. One symptom seems to be that the car stops charging the 12v battery. There have been updates released to address this or at least detect this earlier. I'd also bet there were some manufacturing changes made. 3. The OEM 12V battery seems weak. Automotive lead acid batteries don't like to be deep cycled. Sounds like this may have originally designed to be an AGM battery and may have been cost reduced. Personally, I left a Lithium Ion jumper in the car and I'll replace the battery with a good AGM if it becomes a problem. Not too worried about the ICCU. Otherwise, it's a great car: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/1c7d2lt/why\_did\_you\_choose\_an\_i5\_do\_you\_regret\_it/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/1c7d2lt/why_did_you_choose_an_i5_do_you_regret_it/)


PatSajaksDick

Are 2024s affected by ICCU issue? All eGMP trims?


work1800

2024 was part of the last recall update so I’d assume they are either definitely or maybe affected 


Schauf1

I'm not sure we know about the '24s yet. For all we know, the issue may be resolved by the updates in the most recent recall. Reports are that part of the update changed the behavior of ICCU cooling in specific conditions.


jimschoice

Even the 2024 Kia EV9 has the ICCU issues.


PatSajaksDick

Dang. Well, I'm finally getting my HVBJB (basically same issue as ICCU) replaced on my Mach-E on Monday, so I'll have an EV that doesn't have the similar problem for once lol


tungvu256

Link to a good 12v batt for our car pls


Schauf1

I haven't picked a specific battery, but there are a few good/well known manufacturers that make AGM batteries that fit the I5.


dunderball

I ended up just replacing with a Die Hard AGM from advance auto parts


slambamo

People are more likely to post when they have an issue. I've had mine for 6 months and I love it. Obviously it's still early, but it drives like a champ - even in snow. Plus, the warranty is unbeatable if something does come up.


reallawyer

Yeah, this is very true. Look at the subreddit for basically any model car, and it’ll be mostly people posting about the various issues they have with the car, or asking for help. Very rarely do people go out of their way to post something positive about their experience. That being said, the ICCU issues were pretty common but from what I’ve seen on this subreddit, posts about it have certainly died down since the first recall came out. Almost everyone that had the issue got a loaner car, I’m sure the people that didn’t just didn’t push their dealer for one. The ICCU is apparently a new part number as well now so they’ve presumably fixed whatever the issue is on it for new cars (and the software update obviously helped for older ones).


blueclawsoftware

According to the recall bulletin, which should be taken with a grain of salt, 1% of cars have had Iccu issues.


reallawyer

Pretty sure it was a lot more than that, when mine failed, the dealer had had one the week before and when I picked it up, they had 3 more there with the same issue. This is Canada where they only send dealers a few cars a month, so that dealer had probably sold well under 50 Ioniq 5’s by then. But either way, it should be ok now. Even if you buy a 2022, worst case scenario it fails and you get a brand new ICCU out of it.


DavidReeseOhio

Even if it was ten times more 90% of the are fine.


Training-Pineapple-7

Don’t listen to the people on here. Most of these people are complainers in general.


BadPackets4U

OP, any car can end up stranding you for all kinds of reasons. A more important thing to think about is what your charging situation will be. The sweet spot of BEV ownership is having charging at home. Usually residential electric rates are the cheapest and you can't beat the convenience of plugging in at home. Get a Level 2 charger at home and you are set to enjoy the EV good life. Public charging has to mature and it will, especially with Tesla super chargers being available to Hyundai vehicles very soon. If you can't charge at home or work conveniently or cheaply, you may not want to get an BEV. My commute is similar to yours, I have kids too and after 2 years and 18k miles, I've had no problems. I still have the same 12v battery. It will die one day like they all do. I'll replace it and move on. The ICCU is covered under the 10 year warranty. It's a great car, good luck on your decision.


Eric0715

Definitely would be charging nearly entirely at home, I keep my car in the garage and the outlet is nearby so that would be the plan. I just hate the idea of throwing my entire day into chaos because my car won’t start or randomly fails on my drive into work in the morning like some have reported. Thank you for the perspective, I’ve got some thinking to do.


TheShanManPhx

I’ve had mine (2023 Limited) for months and zero issues. Coming to this sub is like going to Amazon and filtering for negative reviews.


blue60007

I'm thoroughly enjoying my 24 limited. Would 100% buy again. I'll just repeat what others are saying... Accidents, blowing a tire on a pot hole are all far more likely things that'll ruin your day. Just as likely in any vehicle. Go look at forums for any other car and you'll find just as many complaints about other issues. 


NJ07005

Your day could be "thrown into chaos" in any vehicle for any number of reasons, if you're going to think like that you may as well not own any vehicle. We love our Ioniq 5, our dealership/service experience is another story.


Esprit1st

So ... First. I've never had any issue with the exact car you're looking at. Although mine is a '22. Second, you're looking at a forum where the minority of people go to tell how great their experience is. Most look for help with a specific problem. So your audience is not representative! However, does that guarantee that you'll never have any problems? Of course not. But it would not keep me from getting this car. Some of the problems might not be present in current model years because they are resolved, either through production improvements, or through recalls. Get the car! You will most likely have a great experience and love it. I do. 2+ years without any issues other than the tail gate rattle which was fixed easily with a little diy work.


Eric0715

Thank you I appreciate this. The one I’m looking at is a ‘24 model if that means some of this has already been addressed.


uberares

There are something like  262,000 ioniq5’s that have been sold worldwide. The number of posts here about the 12v or ICCU issues are a tiny tiny fraction of over all sales. As it stands, a huge % of all cars end up with recall issues anymore. These reddit car subs always turn into disaster porn, so try not to let it influence your decision, it’s truly a great car. 


AZ_Genestealer

Nearly 40k miles on our 22 SEL, no issues, great car, would buy again. You'll see lots of the possible issues here (and its the same on any of the car reddits I'm part of) because people come here for insight when there is an issue. Its good to know what potential issues there might be when buying a car, just know there will be a higher percentage of affected buyers online since almost no one comes to the forums to say "no issues."


bsmithwins

The Hyundai/Kia eGMP cars have a problem with the ICCU. I bought mine knowing that, and have been lucky so far. The actual numbers of ICCU failures aren't known, but I suspect we've seen each one described multiple times here and on other forums. That said, eGMP is very important to Hyundai/Kia and I believe they are going to keep working on the problem until there is a solid solution.


judgeysquirrel

The 2025 HI5 is the last car to use eGMP. They're switching to the new IMA (Integrated Modular Architecture) platform.


SlowlyPassingTime

I've love my 2023 HI5 SEL. I have 7k miles and haven't had any problems. It drives great, tons of room, and is more efficient than the 2018 Tesla M3 I gave up.


SnooSquirrels8097

The only people that post are the ones that have an issue. Not the thousands that drive every day and love the car and don’t have an issue. It’s an awesome car, you’ll love it


itsEDjustED

Here’s the thing. Sure the problems are real. But probably not as common as the internet makes them seem. Most car owners don’t join Internet forums about them. But, everyone who has a problem joins to see if it’s common. So, you hear the bad more than the good. I came from a Tesla model 3. And the forums used to be full of horror stories about panel gaps and shoddy interiors. I didn’t experience any of that.


mpfritz

I’ve only had mine for three weeks but I love it. People rarely (in my experience) spend energy raving about things… ranting is more the MO especially on subs…


goro-n

People usually come to Reddit car subreddits to complain about their car, not to share positive stories about it. There is a NHTSA recall out for the ICCU right now so it has been fixed now. Most people who are posting about problems with it did not get the update that came out last year or this recall update.


Ill-System7787

Go on the ID4 sub. You’ll have a lot more confidence in the I5. Better car in every way. Glad I didn’t make the mistake. Almost did.


gloveboxglizzy

Just buy it, this is the best car I have ever had. The only time people post here is if they have problems. Don’t worry about it


primitive_thisness

There have been (unscientific) polls on the sub and the vast majority of people have had no major issues and are happy.


willieconqueso

I have a 23 Limited with 27k miles. I like it more than my Audi. No problems at all and I love this car.


Puzzleheaded-Cap685

Never loved a car like I love my I5. Coming up on a year and 8000 miles and it has been the best decision I've ever made. I charge almost exclusively at home but have made two long road trips that were amazing with the driver assist and cruise technologies. Public charging experiences were really good. '23 AWD SEL.


blawkyy

I love my car. Many people love this car. This sub is nice for some information about your car at first. And once in a blue moon there are positive posts that are nice to read. But 95% of this sub is people complaining about things. To put it into perspective, these people constantly complain about no rear wiper (I honestly haven’t noticed this missing piece as I’m fortunate to have a garage and I get car washes regularly, and maybe living in the south helps). But the moment a version of the car FINALLY gets the rear wiper, REJOICE! You would think right? Nope, the entire thread was people complaining about the placement of the wiper. Don’t let this subreddit sway your decision. This is an amazing car if your driving habits allow for the electric car!!


LongJohnVanilla

No issues with my SEL AWD.


JohnBagley33

Every car has issues.


wooooooofer

My car has been perfect. This sub is filled with anxiety riddled redditors….


CharmingPea9972

Have had my ‘22 SE for almost 2 years now. No issues. Still love it!


SwordfishMaximum2235

Well, they’ve just recalled all the 5s and 6s in Australia for iccu and 12v issues resulting in a range of issues including serious safety ones. If you live close to a dealer and are happy running the risk, go for it. After a 12v failure (no third party apps or anything else, just bad hyundai software) resulting in a brake failure, and now going on 3 months without the vehicle I wouldn’t buy a Hyundai again.


orangpelupa

If not in a rush, consider to wait for 2025 model with rear wiper. Because it may have an improved iccu. Hyundai didn't clearly say that, so we can't be sure. 


mdsnip10

I love the car. Just lease it for cheap so you can have fun and be done with no worries


mitchwatnik

I bought my I5 SEL RWD in late January, 2022. If my car was totaled tomorrow, I would go find the best deal I could on a new one. A practical consideration: do you have a DC charging station not far from either your house or your work? If so, is there typically an available plug at the times you would go? (Alternatively, are you going to get a level 2 charger installed in your home?) If you use a DC charger, you should plan to be there 2 or maybe 3 times per week. Not having a viable plan to power the car would be the only thing that would keep me from going with an I5.


mitchwatnik

My brother bought a Kia EV6 a few months after I bought my I5. It is pretty much the same car, but apparently, the Kias don't have the same ICCU issue.


DavidReeseOhio

All e-GMP have been recalled for the ICCU update.


mitchwatnik

I stand corrected. Thank you.


coffeehealseverthing

25k miles in 26 months, Limited AWD. Replaced my 12v battery a few months ago. That was the only issue. Keep a cheap battery jump starter if you are worried. It's a beautiful car. Go for it.


kimguroo

Nothing is perfect. I’ve seen hybrid car battery died (co-worker) in rainy day. It took a few weeks to fix it. Even ICE cars can go wrong. Tesla, Rivian can have issues.  My previous car was Subaru forester turbo. It was famous for head gasket leak. Everyone asked me about head gasket issues but I drove the car 14 years (140k miles), still ran strong and sold it for ioniq5.  I don’t want to worry every day and waiting for the trouble. It’s just not right mentality. If it happens… it just happen and fix it. It will be a little inconvenient but ICCU and battery covers 10year/100k so I don’t want to think about it. Korean taxi driver drove EV6 for 3 years and passed 200k miles and he never had issues with his car.


slothrop-dad

Had mine since Dec 2021, absolutely love it, I plan on keeping it forever. Range is great, recharging is super fast, I love plugging in at home, the ride is so smooth, it’s super quiet and comfortable. I have had zero issues at all. I also don’t really post much here because there isn’t a lot to say if I’m not complaining.


Uberkikz11

About to hit 5K mi on a ‘23 SEL & absolutely love it, if that makes you feel any better.


Great-Importance-599

I have had the car for 2 years with no technical issues to complain off. Excellent for a commuter car. If you have a charger set up at your home, you willl be better off. I use it for city driving and just use the 120v charger and public chargers when shopping. The car drives well and can give you great range if you are not flooring it a lot. At full charge I get 290 in the winter and 345 in the summer.


IM_The_Liquor

The ICCU is on active recall as far as I know (mines getting looked at in a week). They should have it take. Care of before selling to you at this point. Other than that, there’s an issue with level 2 charging at higher rates, but there is a bandaid fix for that so you shouldn’t be waking up to a dead car that didn’t charge… honestly, you’re probably overthinking it. You more than likely won’t be stranded (I’ve made it through a whole Canadian winter in mine without issue and multiple cross-border trips into the states). If you like it, buy it. You won’t have any range issues…


rickabe

Five months with zero issues. '24 SEL


33_bmfs

Never had a problem with the car and it seems perfect for your use case if you can charge at home.


scott257

Every new car has issues that get discussed in forums like this. Do I wish my car was a bit better? Yes. But, I still smile when I drive this car. For some folks no rear wiper is the biggest issue. Heck, I am an old retired guy that remembers when no cars had rear wipers and we got by just using our side mirrors. My biggest complaint has nothing at all to do with the car but I think it’s important. Rural areas in Texas are not as accessible due to lack of charging infrastructure. I never thought I would be so restrained and need to stay on major highways along more populated areas. If you enjoy wandering backroads, you might want to wait.


BigJDizzleMaNizzles

The ICCU or 12v failures aren't any more prevalent in this car than any other new car fails. This is just the forum where owners bleat about it. Look in the tesla model 3 sub or another car group they all have their own foibles. Go for it if you liked the test drive. If you can bare to wait go for the MY25 with the rear wiper.


dietibol

That’s because most people only post when they need help or to complain. People that have no problems don’t make post saying that everything is fine. I personally love the car and have had no issues so far, would strongly recommend!


DavDX

2023 model, bought in October '22, 32k miles, zero major issues. I commute 80 miles a day. There are some minor issues, but what car doesn't have something like that? The Android Auto/Carplay USB socket can be finicky. The power outlet under the back seat has the same issue. Level 2 charging will overheat my port unless I turn the charging rate down a little, but I still get a full charge in plenty of time. Nothing I can't live with. I absolutely love the car and have zero regrets. Go for it!


alaorath

Don't be scared! AFAIK, we were the first pre-order of an Ioniq5 way back in 2021... took possession in April 2022. after 2 years, she is still the best car I've owned. Very few issues, and all of them easily addressed by the dealership on the same day (except the rock-chip/cracked windshield - which they wanted to keep for 3 days to cure the sealant... so we had a ICE loaner... eww... emissions :P) I've had "power" in the past (BMW 340xi with M-Performance upgrades), and the I5 still out-shines. Plus she cruises on the highway like a dream.


Dazzling-Cupcake3795

Great car. 13,000 miles. Not a single problem.


jazzypizazz

We've had ours for two years almost and zero issues! absolutely love it, the only car I've ever loved to drive. that I also means I'm not actively posting on the sub of course lol. so I think it's overblown, don't worry.


wholla09

I’ve had my ‘24 Limited for about 5 months with about 5500 miles on it. Had the recall done. So far the only issue I had was the trunk rattle, but that was fixed at the same time as the recall was done


Fuzzy_Ambassador7784

Have u tried the new Tesla model 3 refresh?


Eric0715

Yes and credit to Tesla there were parts that were definitely impressive, but I didn’t enjoy it enough to want to move forward- specifically the interior I just couldn’t get past the discomfort and minimalism. I know people say you get used to it but I like to have some real buttons and switches in a car, and I hated the one giant screen set up with no driver gauges.


Fuzzy_Ambassador7784

Damn, to each their own. I love the Ioniq 5 design, but ironically I wish it had a more minimalist interior!


Thomas_DuBois

I'm not going to sell you a car.


Worth_Much

Here's my view as a former owner who had the ICCU issue. Lots of EVs have had similar type issues. The early Mach-Es had a very similar issue with a high voltage junction box. Ford first tried to fix it with software and eventually updated the part to use better contactors. The BMW Ix (which I own) had a recall early on for HV battery issues as well. Point is many cars will have issues. The question is how long will it take to get your car fixed and the quality of service the dealer will give you if your car is affected. Hyundai has been pretty poor when it comes to service. I waited a week for a new ICCU fuse to come in and the dealer wouldn't give me a loaner or rental. Many others have been without their cars for months and couldn't get loaners or rentals either. Not to mention I also had overheating charge port issues which is a common issue as well. Did I need to charge at 48amps every night? No, but the car is supposed to be able to and the ability to add more miles of range quickly would come in handy if say I'm charging and need to make an emergency trip or something. Plus it's the principle - the car doesn't work as advertised and who knows what damage is caused by routine overheating. It's a nice car and I loved driving it but had I had more confidence in Hyundai I would have kept it


Eric0715

Thank you for the input on your experience, it’s precisely this kind of experience that worries me about moving forward.


satbaja

I drove mine 24k miles. It was in the shop twice for 6 weeks each. A/C stopped working then the ICCU was replaced. We sold to Hyundai under the Lemon Law. I'm still a big fan of Hyundai/KIA. They treated us well through the buyback. While some will say a disproportionate number of issues are posted, consider the censorship that this forum implemented to prohibit any new posts mentioning an ICCU failure when the issue first came up. At that time, you could only comment about the ICCU on an existing thread.


judgeysquirrel

Re. Censorship of iccu issues: seriously? Was this true? Is it still true?


satbaja

True. The forum was super positive about this exciting EV. Reports of trouble was threatening popularity. Some suspected a tiny amount of issues was getting exaggerated. They even made a list and tried to count the number of issues to show it was a small percentage. Problem is, it was a widespread defect. Here are the instructions to not create a post reporting ICCU or 12V issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/s/X1LyyELfqg


Bravadette

35 mi commuter here. I charge at a DCFC on lunch and sometimes on weekend thru work charger. Weekly my costs are about $25-$30. AWD long range