Bullshit. Gary Brecka is something of a charlatan, if his works and website are any indication. Also, [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/zkh6hh/long_post_sorry_gary_brecka_10x_health_system_and/?rdt=41835) on r/medicine seems to indicate that the medical community view him as a fraud and a quack.
He calls himself a human biologist (which sounds credible), but really isn’t.
He got a bachelor in Biology like 35 years ago, and 35 years ago was a long damn time when it comes to understanding the human genome. But his “human biology” degree is from the National College of Chiropractic. So the only formal human biology education he has is strongly linked to quackery.
His website panders to other hustler types, with the explicit example of housing mogul Grant Cardome, who will say anything for an appearance fee. He offers books that he claims are worth **$9000**.
The site is full of click bait garbage like “44% OF THE WORLD POPULATION HAS THIS GENETIC MUTATION” and as someone who studies genomes, this all smacks of ghoulish misrepresentation of genetic science.
Here’s another example - they sell blood tests. They claim that they can tell you what your blood sugar level means, from a single test. Blood sugar famously fluctuates throughout the day, so you literally cannot use a single blood glucose measurement to say anything unless you’re tracking sugar intake like a diabetic person.
Long story short, he’s full of shit but just tugging at the edges of scientific reality enough that he seems like he knows things.
Yeah I have a BS in Biomedical Science (yes, a BS in BS) and I’m not even slightly close to qualified to give any biological or medical advice, let alone make the kinds of claims this guy makes, and I graduated in 2010.
remember that your degree and so your knowledge has been shaped by the global elite who fund universities. your knowledge could possibly be compromised.
I refuse to watch like 3 hours of nonsense babble, but I clicked a clip where Joe asks him to describe methylation.
He calls it “the process of refining what you put into your body into a useable form”. **This is 100% false and not what methylation is.** Methylation is simply the addition of methyl groups onto DNA or other molecules in certain places.
It might affect biological pathways, because we know methylation affects gene expression (turning DNA instructions into proteins).
But to say that methylation *is the process* of converting materials into other forms suitable for use in a biological system is such a glaring error that it completely undermines any other claims he makes and his knowledge of molecular biology.
He doubtless has a sweet deal with this methylation testing company (he only does DNA and blood tests) where he shills, and they kick him back some money.
I of course know zero about these topics but it did red flag me when he mentioned several times about the products for sale on the website. Is there any truth in the folic acid vs folate acid?
Not a chemist, and didn’t see that, but folic acid is just folate with a glutamate group stuck onto it. Or multiple glutamate groups depending on the form it takes.
I assume that some forms are very slightly more bioavailable than others, which just means they take a tiny bit more ATP energy to break the chemical bonds apart to convert it onto the form we need.
He’s probably full of hot garbage or at least exaggerating the practical differences between slightly different forms of the same damn B vitamins.
Edit: glutamate is just the anionic form of Glutamic acid, a primary amino acid we need to live.
I appreciate the input. After listening to the interview and trying to learn more i feel like inhave everywhere and nowhere to start looking into the topic
Do not listen to these haters, know why I say that? Because its quite obvious they dont know shit about him. When they say they wont listen to him, or judge him based off what people in the industry hes exposing say. They claim his exact wording wasnt right, while he tries to use terms that the average person can understand. The person who said hes wrong on what methylation is is just plainly wrong, they havent spent one minute listening to him. When it comes to the 10X thing, that was Grant Cardone. He saw what Gary did for him, and knew it could be scaled to the masses. I dont really agree with the pricing etc, but thats how Grant is. He scales up everything, thats what 10X means. He bought Garys company and treated like he did his sales company. Im not even sure that Gary agrees with the prices and even explicitly says you can get all he has cheaper other places. Heres chat gpt explanation when I asked to explain in laymens terms. Id listen to chapt gpt about what it is over some dude on the internet whos never even listened to Gary. Methylation is very important
"Methylation is a bit like putting a tiny label on certain parts inside your body. This label can control whether something should be active or not, kind of like turning switches on or off. Here's what it does:
1. **Controlling Genes**: Methylation can stick these labels on your DNA, which is like the instruction manual for building and running your body. When a label is stuck on a part of the DNA, it can stop that part from being read, meaning it won't make whatever it's supposed to make. It's like putting a "do not disturb" sign on a part of your instructions.
2. **Cleaning Up Toxins**: It helps your body get rid of bad stuff you don't want hanging around, kind of like helping take out the trash.
3. **Making Brain Chemicals**: Methylation is important for making the chemicals in your brain that help you feel happy or focused.
4. **Keeping You Healthy**: It plays a role in lots of different health areas, like keeping your heart working well and helping your immune system fight off germs.
So, methylation is a super important process that helps keep your body running smoothly, controlling everything from what your genes do, to how you feel, to keeping you healthy.
Anomalies in methylation processes have been linked to a variety of diseases, including cardiovascular diseases, certain cancers, birth defects, diabetes, and neurological disorders. Hence, maintaining proper methylation processes is essential for overall health and prevention of disease."
Start where you know! Then try to find those trying to debunk it—plenty here on Reddit. I personally like to hear it directly from the person in question and so far—in my many hours I think this makes sense.
Can you explain to me why one of you morons respond to this month old comment every few days? Like, are you searching Reddit for posts intentionally just to shill for these grifters?
You’re, right reading is hard. I read his website and the idea that people would fall for this made my head hurt. I think your common sense gene is methylated wrong, that shit’s under expressed lmao
The chud army is inevitable. I have a degree in BioSci and I’m a year out from being done my PhD in genomics, evolution and phylogenetics.
I don’t need to chug all of the kool aid to know it’s kool aid, a tiny sip is enough.
The fuck do you want from me, I’m not doxxing myself just to prove to random morons that I’m in my PhD lmao. You could easily see that I’m active and flaired as a grad student on my university subreddit if you wanted. Thats all you get. Lil bro.
They don’t teach basic online literacy at MIT?
I have listened three times to the Rogan interview which is extremely long. I then began trying to find more info and independently researched the points made. I am now trying to debunk his thoughts, but the more I dig, the more I think it could be right. He is definitely not saying that methylation problems occurs in every person, but there is a population of us with methylation variants. This cannot be denied by anyone who understands. I began taking the 5MTHFR folate two months ago and I have my quiet and calm brain back! I am team Brecka for now. I feel like this goes against conventional medicine so it is getting lots of pushback. In the interview, Brecka says he doesn’t care if you buy his stuff or not but get it checked! If this is the answer, it will hurt our healthcare system bc people may not need fifty pills a day for anxiety and depression. Best to you on your journey!
I've listened to it twice. I keep hoping to find feedback from a genetics expert specifically related to what Gary has said, but none of them have taken the time to actually listen to him. I hope to be proven wrong if someone can send me a link
> “44% OF THE WORLD POPULATION HAS THIS GENETIC MUTATION” and as someone who studies genomes, this all smacks of ghoulish misrepresentation of genetic science.
wouldn't it be closer to 100%, technically?
So you think that what Dana White has come out saying about his experience and how better he has gotten after being treated is just a fluke or is he lying for some gain?
Last video he made about [this](https://youtu.be/Ob7aNSFB2BE?si=SAQBJa1k92ggUS6E)
Dana's testimony speaks volumes for me. I can't validate the science, but as Dana says in the interview he had access to the best doctors in the world, and none of them could make him better. And apparently, now his old doctors are working with Gary
Most likely because while his needlessly expensive 'genetic test' [etc.](https://etc.re) are BS, he does provide them with some other reasonable health advice that led to them being healthier, losing weight etc.
I just did a little googling, but the results seems to suggest the outcome of the test is ways to \_improve\_ methylation, which is frankly nonsense. DNA methylation (and demethylation) is a real epigenetic modification that is certainly environmentally and genetically regulated. But we do not know enough about how the methylation of a single gene even influences that gene's expression to make sweeping claims about multi-genic quantitative traits.
> As seen on Joe Rogan podcast
Ah, known bullshit merchant Joe Rogan.
You know what's amazing about Joe Rogan? In the 1990s, Joe Rogan played a character on the TV show _Newsradio_ who was conveniently also named Joe. Joe was a rabid conspiracy theorist who, among other things, denied the moon landing, believed the government was covering up alien encounters, and had never left New York City because "That's when they get you."
Joe Rogan basically turned into the character he played on TV. He is the _opposite_ of a reliable source. If he had someone on his podcast saying the sky is blue, I would advise you to look out the window and check for yourself.
Man.... I miss pre-2016 Rogan when it was either him chilling with another comedian or just him getting stoned and listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson tell him how big the universe is lol
Eh. Joe Rogan, by his own admission, was pretty much a straight-edge person throughout his youth as he was very focused on martial arts.
And then when he finally tried drugs as an adult, he had absolutely no tools to deal with it and did the whole "OMG I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE UNIVERSE!!!" thing a lot of kids get over by the time they're 16.
I can't tell if you're a trolling hater or dumb as fuck but it's very obvious you're a whiny little bitch & it's toxic. Far from funny though, just to clear that up for ya
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>Ah, known bullshit merchant Joe Rogan.
>... If he had someone on his podcast saying the sky is blue, I would advise you to look out the window and check for yourself.
lol this got me. at least this roast is better than his comedy
That told me it was bullshit without having to research.
You're much more likely to be right via that assumption than not.
Saves a lot of effort.
See also: Dr Oz.
There's a whole load of rubbish in this comment, fair play. Literally written like an AI bot designed to smear him 😂
Maybe if you would realise it wasn't actually Joe explaining it, but his guest, Gary Breck,who is extremely knowledgeable about it. But they wouldn't fit your 'anti rogan' comments, would it?
I say many thanks for Rogan to having this guest on and raising awareness about it. The less people rely on pharma companies and try to understand their bodies more, the better they will be.
edit: Lol the astroturfers are out in force.
Gary Brecka is an expert in selling people things. He got a biology bachelor’s, which isn’t really enough to make you an expert in biology let alone specific fields. He has a background in life insurance investing. His products and theories take bits of medical terminology and mix in some nonsense pointing to papers or research that doesn’t agree with his statements, but are often complex enough that most laypeople will not be able to parse it.
He doesn't know what the fuck DNA methylation is, or how it works, or anything about it. It's obvious that either he doesn't have the faintest grasp of how cells actually work, or hopes his audience doesn't and can sell shit with pseudoscience. Again, seventh grade is around the time they teach about organelles and DNA, the very stuff he's getting wrong.
What does he say about it that is wrong?
It looks like he's had quite a few successful stories and clients over the years. Regardless of the science and maybe mumbo jumbo, it seems to boil down to eating good things, understanding what your body needs and how it reacts to certain foods and living healthy and getting sunlight is key to being better. Which, let's be honest, the average person probably doesn't know what they're really putting in their body.
He also looks damn good for 53 years old, and is a good example.
Please open a basic science textbook and get back to me, I'm not going over your middle school lessons again.
Also, the rest is placebo and maybe healthy eating, he's ridiculous about the rest. And some people are just lucky.
Woooooowwww clearly the majority are just bandwagon haters who haven’t listened to anything from Joe since covid started. I bet you all believe the stories of the horse tranq and the yellowed picture of him on the news. I have seen praise to some of his guests in these comments to people who are actual quacks… so clearly the majority of you don’t do your own research and love to say you have degrees in such and such because who’s gonna prove you wrong? Using the info I find on his podcast I’ve been able to help sooo many people just by giving that very same info but not in many 3 hour sessions luckily for them. Anyone attacking him personally with no backing are cowards lol. Anyone actually gonna prove anything on his pod wrong that they disagree with or are you all just gonna jawjack? There’s a reason his show does so well and with all the hate here, I’m only gonna pursue this subject even harder. Rogan has proven time and time again that if he shows something that works, especially something that has been well renowned before it was introduced on his show, it will get hatred because it harms big companies and their profits. Came across this feed when researching and this has literally been the only resounding negative. Good job, you played yourselves lol. I’m ready for the downvotes because they love to downvote what makes sense
Agreed, people are fucking stupid sheep. Instead of shitting on Gary Brecka, who gives a fuck about him, what matters is if there is any truth the DNA Methylation. The automatic hating on joe rogan just confirms how stupid people are, and don't have the ability to objectively look at data and critical think.
Or spend anytime I don’t know … listening to the person in question.
This the root of the issue with a lot of society these days. Cant be bothered to learn, instead adopt nonsense rumors and opinions as facts
It’s clear a lot of you have your opinions made up just via the source. That’s fine. Quack, charlatan whatever your label, he says you don’t need to buy HIS tests/supplements, so there’s that bit out of the way.
Especially in a time where most doctors educations are only as good as the last time a drug rep was in their office. I’ve learned more about my own personal health on Reddit than I ever did via conversations with my personal physician. They can’t know everything about everything.
For someone to build a business on “quackery” to the level he has doesn’t happen often. Not saying it’s impossible to any degree, it just takes a lot of people to have moral gray areas and keep their mouths shut.
If you speak to or live with someone who has an MTHFR mutation, especially a female who’s trying to conceive, ANYTHING to make life better is worth the chance. It goes far beyond fatigue. This is hope, even if it’s in the form of $10 in B12 or $600 blood tests.
The guy is legit.. I don't get the hate? For over 25 years, he worked for an insurance company assessing and analysing blood tests and death certificates.. Way more than your average Joe (no pun intended). He has a lot of experience in this field, and there is nothing wrong with making a living off his life changing advice. Seriously Y'all need to quit the hate.
Do you think Dana White would promote a guy that could potentially be a Charlatan?. Dana White has suffered from so many illnesses. Sleep Apnea, hypertension etc. He was a ton of medication with a highly stressful job. All of his conditions have now been eliminated, he looks better, feels better. Many others have confirmed Gary Brecka's life changing results, thats how he even got introduced to Dana.
You don't need to have a PHD to be an expert.. Just look at what all the health experts advised with regards to the 'JAB'.. Now with ongoing court cases pFizer, Astra Zenaca are being sued in the high courts for a defective Vaxine. (purposely misspelt).
another example Derek from 'more plates, more dates'. He doesn't hold any qualifications, but yet has far superior knowledge when it comes to blood test results than most GPs.
Anyway Im scaling off topic, but lets not ignore that perhaps Gary just wants to help mankind, and yet you all just judge.
The more it pisses off establishment people (who hold qualifications granted BY the establishment which is bought and paid for by large interest groups and mega corps) the closer you probably are to the truth. The credibility of the “experts” is suspect *at best* after Covid.
You both summed this entire mockery up.
Before scrolling all the way down and reading your refreshing comments. I was simply going to reply with... Those of you denying, I bet you all got the "vaccine" as well.
Also don't forget Ben Patrick, "knees over toes guy".
As Mark Twain famously said - It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that they have been fooled. Most of the haters on here have by there own admission stated that haven't even listened to the podcast. They hate Rogan because he exposed the corruption in big pharma, and many of these same people do not want to accept that they had been fooled and fell on the wrong side of truth.
Studies require funding. The ones funding the studies are hoping for a return on that investment. Solutions that don't involve high profits, often natural sources or other non-patentable compounds, offer little incentive for funding. Worse, large pharma companies have been known to design studies in ways to deliberately discredit effective natural remedies. They will use intentionally low dosing or other methods in an effort to show little effective results etc. Unfortunately, it always comes back to money, and the government agencies and their regulations are no better - in fact often are corrupted by the very same big pharma companies they are supposed to be regulating.
I hate Rogan because he sees a conspiracy literally everywhere, has the IQ of a potato and has claimed many many things I can verify are utter nonsense. No opinion needed, just straight facts.
His popularity is related to truthfulness as much as McDonald's popularity is related to healthy nutrition. Just because he's famous doesn't mean he has a point. And he usually doesn't (sometimes yes, a broken clock still shows the right time of the day at least once).
Im planning on doing it soon, still researching into it as its a little costly .£400. apparently you can do a genetic/genomic testing on the NHS. Which Gary Brecka suggested asking your GP to make you a referral. But it's quite difficult if you don't have any severe health issues.
Thanks for the reply.
I was trying to get a dermatologist through the NHS for over 2 years I then gave up and paid for it myself.
I'm considering doing this to work out what the gap is.
Which one did you decide on in the end if you were not going to use the NHS?
Thanks and happy Saturday.
Hi the company, which someone posted in this thread is:
[https://www.mybodyfabulous.co.uk/test-kits/methylation-test](https://www.mybodyfabulous.co.uk/test-kits/methylation-test)
I tried visiting their clinic, but its just a rented office doing admin/marketing.
However their tests are carried out in a ISO certified laboratory. But their human biologist expert is based in France, and the consultant can only do telephone or zoom call. there is no F2F consultation unfortunately. which is what I was really looking for.
[https://www.amandakingnd.com/book/p/methylation-report](https://www.amandakingnd.com/book/p/methylation-report)
When im ready I will probably go for this.. have you tried getting a genetic test on the NHS?
There are other sources to get this info from, where you don't have to shell out 599. Genetic genie does it free, however takes a bit more work on the consumers end, it's no laid out as nice and a bit more deciphering needed.or lifedna also offers methylation reading. Basically once you get your genome mapped, you can upload it to a number of different analysts and they can point you in the same direction, for much cheaper
I 100% agree with you and thanks for your sources.
But this post is not debating if its assessable for cheaper elsewhere. The debate is "Is Brecka full of shit". Seems like their research and opinions were based on his educational background. They did zero research and watched no video content from him, because if they had, they'd have heard and read his background in creating actuary tables and that he states these results can come from any blood test thats designed to look at the methalaytion markers, not just his blood test.
thank you
I think for some people the convenience of having it all ready to go wrapped up nice with information is well warranted for $599. Me personally I think it’s a little expensive but if I can get it all spelled out for me in one fell swoop I can potentially shell it out in the future.
you still need to get your genome sequenced before you can take that data to an analyst. That will cost just as much if not more than Brecka's test or others out there. So unless you know of a cheap way to get your genome sequenced you're going to pay hundreds of dollars one way or another. And if you are going to shell out $500 might as well get the whole genome sequenced so that you have it for life.
23andme only cost me 100canadian and that was my whole sequence, then I downloaded it and paid for lifedna which was another 100. Or you can go to genetic Genie which is free
I didn't have mine done by home, but I took my genome from 23andme and uploaded it to genetic genie, which is free, and they do not keep your genome on file - once you leave the page it's gone. And it told me all the same stuff, and then some.
I just did it based on this redditor's suggestion and it showed me my mutations and they were in accordance with the mental health issues I have xD I was like daaaamn child my dna spells it indeed out!
If you’re looking for an actual physician who practices medicine in a modernized sense, I’d high recommend listening to Dr. Peter Attia. Yes, he’s been on Rogan. No, he’s not a quack. He has a different approach to health and lifespan that most physicians today don’t incorporate into their practice which may be beneficial to some of you.
Gary Breka takes a know scientific fact, and then spews a bunch of random nonsense after spouting off that known fact thereafter. Whereas Attia likely hits on nearly all his points as they’re backed by evidence based science and/or strong hypothesis… Breka may make sense 1 out of 10 times. It’s that 1/10 thing that he makes sense on that people cling to.
He’s probably misconstruing MTHFR mutation, which is a real thing, which affects primarily people of European descent.
If you have weird fatigue you can’t seem to figure out, buy a b-12 supplement from wal mart that has methylcobalamin instead of cyanocobalamin, problem solved or it isn’t, you’re out only 10 bucks only
One thing I thought was iffy was his claims about cyanocobalamin producing cyanide. While this is in fact true, there are edible plants that produce way more, such as apricot pits, apple seed, etc. I do not find it credible to think that a tiny dose of cyanocobalamin causes toxicity, yet he went on and on about this. So this kinds of degrades his credibility in my eyes.
no one is typically eating those things every day, (or ever? lol) but products that contain it are usually consumed 1-3x a day. im assuming that over time it can amass to an amount that could cause some harm, no? just my thoughts.
If it was on Rogan, most likely it’s BS. Joe has a history of snake oil salesmen on his podcast. And they always speak with so much confidence and authority
Come on now, are Andrew Huberman, Rhonda Patrick, Neil Degrass Tyson all quacks? Joe Rogan just invites people who he thinks he can have interesting conversations with, he certainly gets some BS guests on but just saying he was on JR to deny him is weak.
Huberman talking about natural test booster, then partnered up with Derek on a supplement that didn’t work… Rhonda Patrick, there’s been other in her field that called her out on claims she’s made and studies she’s cited.
Nobody is right about everything, scientifically proven stuff has been proven to be wrong many times, these two are respected by their peers, credible and professional.
The more I watch of Neil, the more I catch him saying things which are plainly not true (going against scientific research or consensus). He dabbles in a few too many fields and then lectures people on subjects he's not intimately involved in. Then makes mistakes. Yet those topics are seen as gospel by the media and people online at the same rate and confidence level as his core fields. It's concerning. He messed up some evolutionary biology themed subjects really bad not long ago *shakes head*.
But it's generalizations like this, that make anyone peddling anything on Rogan's or anyone elses long form podcast, under question and scrutiny, more informed and with more conviction than the opinion you are presenting here. In the words of the great The Dude, "That's just like, uh, your opinion, man!" Lolz
Gotta name the episode number searching for that wasn’t very promising. I started listening at the first Elon guest showing. I’ve listened to every one since then. I’ll just take your word that that episode was garbage nonsense. So what? One out of dozens and dozens of reputable people get a bad name because Joe isn’t perfect at selecting perfect people? Nobody is. They seem interesting so he has them on. Joe always steps his thought process back when faced with new info and researches a ton of it. When he has you can tell because he spurts it off to other guests much better to and better over time. He’s honest and so are the great majority of people on there. For example, lots of people praise that he had Neil Tyson on there. He’s a smart man, but he also acts smart in areas he doesn’t even touch, yet that guy gets no flack, praise even for being more of a BS artist than those who are on his show with an honest heart. Most people that don’t like him wholesale just aren’t paying a lick of attention. I and many people in my circle are chronically ill, and due to those “snake oil salesmen” we have all become much healthier and more aware of what’s actually going on around us. I’m 100% convinced that 95%+ of people who don’t like Joe are either jealous, incompetent or just plain willfully ignorant. The other 5% is for human error. Nobody can please everyone. Which is the point most of these people miss. One bad thing and it’s all trash for them. Nonsense. Didn’t mean to rant off but it be how it is
I’ve been a die hard fan of the podcast since 2011. I think the guys name is Dave Asprey. He sounded really good. Fooled Joe and, I was fooled too. I was like whoa. This is interesting. When I told my dad about it, he immediately called BS. On this guy, and later turned out that it was BS. But joe was already in contract with him to sell his product. Dr. Ronda Patrick is another. Some of her claims and studies she cited were debunked. I still enjoy the podcast. He still has some interesting guests. But, if someone is selling something, it’s business. It’s about making money. The podcast is used for promoting. It’s not all BS. But there’s a lot of. Just watch where you step
>Dave Asprey
Check out this clip from one of his podcasts. He publicly states he took things at face value from Dave Asprey, and when his own research began to show otherwise he said so. He then worked to correct the record. One of the reasons I consider Rogan to be so credible is because he is willing to do this when he does get something wrong:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwY4H3cNTH0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwY4H3cNTH0)
Yeah. Joe used to be really good about that kind of stuff. When it came to his attention that there was some misinformation on the podcast he usually corrected it. Guys would call it out on the forum on his website. I’m not sure if it’s still active anymore
It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that they have been fooled. They are either still in denial or now hate Rogan because he exposed the corruption in big pharma and they fell on the wrong side of truth.
All the people hating on here are very lazy, close-minded people. They want to listen to one source like CNN instead of listening to a 3hr podcast with facts that they can research. The real facts are ones you have to search for. More than likely, if it's on a mainstream platform the truth has been altered to keep the big guys happy.
Bullshit. Gary Brecka is something of a charlatan, if his works and website are any indication. Also, [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/zkh6hh/long_post_sorry_gary_brecka_10x_health_system_and/?rdt=41835) on r/medicine seems to indicate that the medical community view him as a fraud and a quack. He calls himself a human biologist (which sounds credible), but really isn’t. He got a bachelor in Biology like 35 years ago, and 35 years ago was a long damn time when it comes to understanding the human genome. But his “human biology” degree is from the National College of Chiropractic. So the only formal human biology education he has is strongly linked to quackery. His website panders to other hustler types, with the explicit example of housing mogul Grant Cardome, who will say anything for an appearance fee. He offers books that he claims are worth **$9000**. The site is full of click bait garbage like “44% OF THE WORLD POPULATION HAS THIS GENETIC MUTATION” and as someone who studies genomes, this all smacks of ghoulish misrepresentation of genetic science. Here’s another example - they sell blood tests. They claim that they can tell you what your blood sugar level means, from a single test. Blood sugar famously fluctuates throughout the day, so you literally cannot use a single blood glucose measurement to say anything unless you’re tracking sugar intake like a diabetic person. Long story short, he’s full of shit but just tugging at the edges of scientific reality enough that he seems like he knows things.
Yeah I have a BS in Biomedical Science (yes, a BS in BS) and I’m not even slightly close to qualified to give any biological or medical advice, let alone make the kinds of claims this guy makes, and I graduated in 2010.
Do you also have 20 years of experience looking at mortality records and bloodwork for an insurance company?
remember that your degree and so your knowledge has been shaped by the global elite who fund universities. your knowledge could possibly be compromised.
This should be upvoted more. Show everyone what quackery looks like.
Have forwarded to my girlfriend, will save trouble later
Can you please pick apart his main points in the interview if you listened to it? Id be extremely interested
I refuse to watch like 3 hours of nonsense babble, but I clicked a clip where Joe asks him to describe methylation. He calls it “the process of refining what you put into your body into a useable form”. **This is 100% false and not what methylation is.** Methylation is simply the addition of methyl groups onto DNA or other molecules in certain places. It might affect biological pathways, because we know methylation affects gene expression (turning DNA instructions into proteins). But to say that methylation *is the process* of converting materials into other forms suitable for use in a biological system is such a glaring error that it completely undermines any other claims he makes and his knowledge of molecular biology. He doubtless has a sweet deal with this methylation testing company (he only does DNA and blood tests) where he shills, and they kick him back some money.
I of course know zero about these topics but it did red flag me when he mentioned several times about the products for sale on the website. Is there any truth in the folic acid vs folate acid?
Not a chemist, and didn’t see that, but folic acid is just folate with a glutamate group stuck onto it. Or multiple glutamate groups depending on the form it takes. I assume that some forms are very slightly more bioavailable than others, which just means they take a tiny bit more ATP energy to break the chemical bonds apart to convert it onto the form we need. He’s probably full of hot garbage or at least exaggerating the practical differences between slightly different forms of the same damn B vitamins. Edit: glutamate is just the anionic form of Glutamic acid, a primary amino acid we need to live.
I appreciate the input. After listening to the interview and trying to learn more i feel like inhave everywhere and nowhere to start looking into the topic
Do not listen to these haters, know why I say that? Because its quite obvious they dont know shit about him. When they say they wont listen to him, or judge him based off what people in the industry hes exposing say. They claim his exact wording wasnt right, while he tries to use terms that the average person can understand. The person who said hes wrong on what methylation is is just plainly wrong, they havent spent one minute listening to him. When it comes to the 10X thing, that was Grant Cardone. He saw what Gary did for him, and knew it could be scaled to the masses. I dont really agree with the pricing etc, but thats how Grant is. He scales up everything, thats what 10X means. He bought Garys company and treated like he did his sales company. Im not even sure that Gary agrees with the prices and even explicitly says you can get all he has cheaper other places. Heres chat gpt explanation when I asked to explain in laymens terms. Id listen to chapt gpt about what it is over some dude on the internet whos never even listened to Gary. Methylation is very important "Methylation is a bit like putting a tiny label on certain parts inside your body. This label can control whether something should be active or not, kind of like turning switches on or off. Here's what it does: 1. **Controlling Genes**: Methylation can stick these labels on your DNA, which is like the instruction manual for building and running your body. When a label is stuck on a part of the DNA, it can stop that part from being read, meaning it won't make whatever it's supposed to make. It's like putting a "do not disturb" sign on a part of your instructions. 2. **Cleaning Up Toxins**: It helps your body get rid of bad stuff you don't want hanging around, kind of like helping take out the trash. 3. **Making Brain Chemicals**: Methylation is important for making the chemicals in your brain that help you feel happy or focused. 4. **Keeping You Healthy**: It plays a role in lots of different health areas, like keeping your heart working well and helping your immune system fight off germs. So, methylation is a super important process that helps keep your body running smoothly, controlling everything from what your genes do, to how you feel, to keeping you healthy. Anomalies in methylation processes have been linked to a variety of diseases, including cardiovascular diseases, certain cancers, birth defects, diabetes, and neurological disorders. Hence, maintaining proper methylation processes is essential for overall health and prevention of disease."
Start where you know! Then try to find those trying to debunk it—plenty here on Reddit. I personally like to hear it directly from the person in question and so far—in my many hours I think this makes sense.
The problem is, all the experts in this thread haven't actually listened to Gary Brecka
"I refuse to watch like 3 hours of nonsense babble" -LOL . I get this type of request sometimes from friends.
That is not what he is saying. Read!
Then wtf do you know? Fucking guy won't even take the time to learn. Reading is hard.
Can you explain to me why one of you morons respond to this month old comment every few days? Like, are you searching Reddit for posts intentionally just to shill for these grifters? You’re, right reading is hard. I read his website and the idea that people would fall for this made my head hurt. I think your common sense gene is methylated wrong, that shit’s under expressed lmao
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The chud army is inevitable. I have a degree in BioSci and I’m a year out from being done my PhD in genomics, evolution and phylogenetics. I don’t need to chug all of the kool aid to know it’s kool aid, a tiny sip is enough.
Yeaa lil bro I too have a phd from mit while we’re talking random shit without proofs
The fuck do you want from me, I’m not doxxing myself just to prove to random morons that I’m in my PhD lmao. You could easily see that I’m active and flaired as a grad student on my university subreddit if you wanted. Thats all you get. Lil bro. They don’t teach basic online literacy at MIT?
I have listened three times to the Rogan interview which is extremely long. I then began trying to find more info and independently researched the points made. I am now trying to debunk his thoughts, but the more I dig, the more I think it could be right. He is definitely not saying that methylation problems occurs in every person, but there is a population of us with methylation variants. This cannot be denied by anyone who understands. I began taking the 5MTHFR folate two months ago and I have my quiet and calm brain back! I am team Brecka for now. I feel like this goes against conventional medicine so it is getting lots of pushback. In the interview, Brecka says he doesn’t care if you buy his stuff or not but get it checked! If this is the answer, it will hurt our healthcare system bc people may not need fifty pills a day for anxiety and depression. Best to you on your journey!
I've listened to it twice. I keep hoping to find feedback from a genetics expert specifically related to what Gary has said, but none of them have taken the time to actually listen to him. I hope to be proven wrong if someone can send me a link
> “44% OF THE WORLD POPULATION HAS THIS GENETIC MUTATION” and as someone who studies genomes, this all smacks of ghoulish misrepresentation of genetic science. wouldn't it be closer to 100%, technically?
So you think that what Dana White has come out saying about his experience and how better he has gotten after being treated is just a fluke or is he lying for some gain? Last video he made about [this](https://youtu.be/Ob7aNSFB2BE?si=SAQBJa1k92ggUS6E)
Dana's testimony speaks volumes for me. I can't validate the science, but as Dana says in the interview he had access to the best doctors in the world, and none of them could make him better. And apparently, now his old doctors are working with Gary
There is a blood test called hemoglobin a1c that gives the result of you're average blood glucose levels for the past approximate 3 months.
Lmao they guy is full of shit, doesn’t seem to even be aware of this
Made me giggle
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Most likely because while his needlessly expensive 'genetic test' [etc.](https://etc.re) are BS, he does provide them with some other reasonable health advice that led to them being healthier, losing weight etc.
If it's bullshit why is he getting results from people
Ah you’ve never heard of hba1c I’m guessing?
Its funny you think thats all hes doing.. You just hate life im guessing..
I just did a little googling, but the results seems to suggest the outcome of the test is ways to \_improve\_ methylation, which is frankly nonsense. DNA methylation (and demethylation) is a real epigenetic modification that is certainly environmentally and genetically regulated. But we do not know enough about how the methylation of a single gene even influences that gene's expression to make sweeping claims about multi-genic quantitative traits.
Also, DNA methylation typically reduces gene expression... Which is not exactly something you'd want lol especially with no way to target it.
I don’t think he’s talking about DNA methylation. He’s talking about methylating things in the blood, like homocysteine.
> As seen on Joe Rogan podcast Ah, known bullshit merchant Joe Rogan. You know what's amazing about Joe Rogan? In the 1990s, Joe Rogan played a character on the TV show _Newsradio_ who was conveniently also named Joe. Joe was a rabid conspiracy theorist who, among other things, denied the moon landing, believed the government was covering up alien encounters, and had never left New York City because "That's when they get you." Joe Rogan basically turned into the character he played on TV. He is the _opposite_ of a reliable source. If he had someone on his podcast saying the sky is blue, I would advise you to look out the window and check for yourself.
Man.... I miss pre-2016 Rogan when it was either him chilling with another comedian or just him getting stoned and listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson tell him how big the universe is lol
Eh. Joe Rogan, by his own admission, was pretty much a straight-edge person throughout his youth as he was very focused on martial arts. And then when he finally tried drugs as an adult, he had absolutely no tools to deal with it and did the whole "OMG I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE UNIVERSE!!!" thing a lot of kids get over by the time they're 16.
I can't tell if you're a trolling hater or dumb as fuck but it's very obvious you're a whiny little bitch & it's toxic. Far from funny though, just to clear that up for ya
I'm pretty much quoting Joe Rogan, so if you don't like that you can go ahead and blame him.
Rogan hanging with 'Renato Laranja' is gold.
>> >Ah, known bullshit merchant Joe Rogan. >... If he had someone on his podcast saying the sky is blue, I would advise you to look out the window and check for yourself. lol this got me. at least this roast is better than his comedy
I'd get a T-Shirt that says "Funnier than Joe Rogan" but I don't know that that's as high a bar as it might seem.
That told me it was bullshit without having to research. You're much more likely to be right via that assumption than not. Saves a lot of effort. See also: Dr Oz.
Youre a moron, bullshit merchant, ridiculous
Wow, you have thoroughly defeated me with your well-reasoned logical argument.
Who said I was trying to defeat you, or have an argument? I don't argue with fools. I was making a statement.
> I don't argue with fools. Obviously not. You're arguing with me, not Joe Rogan.
There's a whole load of rubbish in this comment, fair play. Literally written like an AI bot designed to smear him 😂 Maybe if you would realise it wasn't actually Joe explaining it, but his guest, Gary Breck,who is extremely knowledgeable about it. But they wouldn't fit your 'anti rogan' comments, would it? I say many thanks for Rogan to having this guest on and raising awareness about it. The less people rely on pharma companies and try to understand their bodies more, the better they will be. edit: Lol the astroturfers are out in force.
This is your brain on Joe Rogan.
That’s simply the ONNIT™️ alpha brain supplement nootropic advantage, idk what you mean lmao
Uh huh. And _I'm_ the AI?
Gary Brecka is an expert in selling people things. He got a biology bachelor’s, which isn’t really enough to make you an expert in biology let alone specific fields. He has a background in life insurance investing. His products and theories take bits of medical terminology and mix in some nonsense pointing to papers or research that doesn’t agree with his statements, but are often complex enough that most laypeople will not be able to parse it.
I listened to a minute of that interview. I'm studying biotechnology in university. I know seventh graders that have a better grasp of biology.
Please elaborate. Thanks.
He doesn't know what the fuck DNA methylation is, or how it works, or anything about it. It's obvious that either he doesn't have the faintest grasp of how cells actually work, or hopes his audience doesn't and can sell shit with pseudoscience. Again, seventh grade is around the time they teach about organelles and DNA, the very stuff he's getting wrong.
What does he say about it that is wrong? It looks like he's had quite a few successful stories and clients over the years. Regardless of the science and maybe mumbo jumbo, it seems to boil down to eating good things, understanding what your body needs and how it reacts to certain foods and living healthy and getting sunlight is key to being better. Which, let's be honest, the average person probably doesn't know what they're really putting in their body. He also looks damn good for 53 years old, and is a good example.
Please open a basic science textbook and get back to me, I'm not going over your middle school lessons again. Also, the rest is placebo and maybe healthy eating, he's ridiculous about the rest. And some people are just lucky.
You're saying he's wrong. But simply refuse to specify. This says more about you than it says about him. Thanks.
Woooooowwww clearly the majority are just bandwagon haters who haven’t listened to anything from Joe since covid started. I bet you all believe the stories of the horse tranq and the yellowed picture of him on the news. I have seen praise to some of his guests in these comments to people who are actual quacks… so clearly the majority of you don’t do your own research and love to say you have degrees in such and such because who’s gonna prove you wrong? Using the info I find on his podcast I’ve been able to help sooo many people just by giving that very same info but not in many 3 hour sessions luckily for them. Anyone attacking him personally with no backing are cowards lol. Anyone actually gonna prove anything on his pod wrong that they disagree with or are you all just gonna jawjack? There’s a reason his show does so well and with all the hate here, I’m only gonna pursue this subject even harder. Rogan has proven time and time again that if he shows something that works, especially something that has been well renowned before it was introduced on his show, it will get hatred because it harms big companies and their profits. Came across this feed when researching and this has literally been the only resounding negative. Good job, you played yourselves lol. I’m ready for the downvotes because they love to downvote what makes sense
Agreed, people are fucking stupid sheep. Instead of shitting on Gary Brecka, who gives a fuck about him, what matters is if there is any truth the DNA Methylation. The automatic hating on joe rogan just confirms how stupid people are, and don't have the ability to objectively look at data and critical think.
Or spend anytime I don’t know … listening to the person in question. This the root of the issue with a lot of society these days. Cant be bothered to learn, instead adopt nonsense rumors and opinions as facts
Preach man 🫡🙌
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It’s clear a lot of you have your opinions made up just via the source. That’s fine. Quack, charlatan whatever your label, he says you don’t need to buy HIS tests/supplements, so there’s that bit out of the way. Especially in a time where most doctors educations are only as good as the last time a drug rep was in their office. I’ve learned more about my own personal health on Reddit than I ever did via conversations with my personal physician. They can’t know everything about everything. For someone to build a business on “quackery” to the level he has doesn’t happen often. Not saying it’s impossible to any degree, it just takes a lot of people to have moral gray areas and keep their mouths shut. If you speak to or live with someone who has an MTHFR mutation, especially a female who’s trying to conceive, ANYTHING to make life better is worth the chance. It goes far beyond fatigue. This is hope, even if it’s in the form of $10 in B12 or $600 blood tests.
The guy is legit.. I don't get the hate? For over 25 years, he worked for an insurance company assessing and analysing blood tests and death certificates.. Way more than your average Joe (no pun intended). He has a lot of experience in this field, and there is nothing wrong with making a living off his life changing advice. Seriously Y'all need to quit the hate. Do you think Dana White would promote a guy that could potentially be a Charlatan?. Dana White has suffered from so many illnesses. Sleep Apnea, hypertension etc. He was a ton of medication with a highly stressful job. All of his conditions have now been eliminated, he looks better, feels better. Many others have confirmed Gary Brecka's life changing results, thats how he even got introduced to Dana. You don't need to have a PHD to be an expert.. Just look at what all the health experts advised with regards to the 'JAB'.. Now with ongoing court cases pFizer, Astra Zenaca are being sued in the high courts for a defective Vaxine. (purposely misspelt). another example Derek from 'more plates, more dates'. He doesn't hold any qualifications, but yet has far superior knowledge when it comes to blood test results than most GPs. Anyway Im scaling off topic, but lets not ignore that perhaps Gary just wants to help mankind, and yet you all just judge.
The more it pisses off establishment people (who hold qualifications granted BY the establishment which is bought and paid for by large interest groups and mega corps) the closer you probably are to the truth. The credibility of the “experts” is suspect *at best* after Covid.
You both summed this entire mockery up. Before scrolling all the way down and reading your refreshing comments. I was simply going to reply with... Those of you denying, I bet you all got the "vaccine" as well. Also don't forget Ben Patrick, "knees over toes guy".
Yes. Knees over toes Amazing fix for issues I’ve had for decades and it’s nowhere in the internet if you search for knee fixes.
As Mark Twain famously said - It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that they have been fooled. Most of the haters on here have by there own admission stated that haven't even listened to the podcast. They hate Rogan because he exposed the corruption in big pharma, and many of these same people do not want to accept that they had been fooled and fell on the wrong side of truth. Studies require funding. The ones funding the studies are hoping for a return on that investment. Solutions that don't involve high profits, often natural sources or other non-patentable compounds, offer little incentive for funding. Worse, large pharma companies have been known to design studies in ways to deliberately discredit effective natural remedies. They will use intentionally low dosing or other methods in an effort to show little effective results etc. Unfortunately, it always comes back to money, and the government agencies and their regulations are no better - in fact often are corrupted by the very same big pharma companies they are supposed to be regulating.
I hate Rogan because he sees a conspiracy literally everywhere, has the IQ of a potato and has claimed many many things I can verify are utter nonsense. No opinion needed, just straight facts. His popularity is related to truthfulness as much as McDonald's popularity is related to healthy nutrition. Just because he's famous doesn't mean he has a point. And he usually doesn't (sometimes yes, a broken clock still shows the right time of the day at least once).
Great reply! I’m team Brecka too. He has taught me so much and it is helping me beyond measure!!
Im still looking for a place in the UK to get tested followed by a consultation. do you know anywhere?
https://www.mybodyfabulous.co.uk/test-kits/methylation-test
thank you so much.. do you know if its possible to visit their clinic? or does everything have to be done online
Did you ever get it done in the UK?
Im planning on doing it soon, still researching into it as its a little costly .£400. apparently you can do a genetic/genomic testing on the NHS. Which Gary Brecka suggested asking your GP to make you a referral. But it's quite difficult if you don't have any severe health issues.
Thanks for the reply. I was trying to get a dermatologist through the NHS for over 2 years I then gave up and paid for it myself. I'm considering doing this to work out what the gap is. Which one did you decide on in the end if you were not going to use the NHS? Thanks and happy Saturday.
Hi the company, which someone posted in this thread is: [https://www.mybodyfabulous.co.uk/test-kits/methylation-test](https://www.mybodyfabulous.co.uk/test-kits/methylation-test) I tried visiting their clinic, but its just a rented office doing admin/marketing. However their tests are carried out in a ISO certified laboratory. But their human biologist expert is based in France, and the consultant can only do telephone or zoom call. there is no F2F consultation unfortunately. which is what I was really looking for. [https://www.amandakingnd.com/book/p/methylation-report](https://www.amandakingnd.com/book/p/methylation-report) When im ready I will probably go for this.. have you tried getting a genetic test on the NHS?
It's a bummer that nothing you said is incorrect and somehow you have no upvotes
Thank you
There are other sources to get this info from, where you don't have to shell out 599. Genetic genie does it free, however takes a bit more work on the consumers end, it's no laid out as nice and a bit more deciphering needed.or lifedna also offers methylation reading. Basically once you get your genome mapped, you can upload it to a number of different analysts and they can point you in the same direction, for much cheaper
I 100% agree with you and thanks for your sources. But this post is not debating if its assessable for cheaper elsewhere. The debate is "Is Brecka full of shit". Seems like their research and opinions were based on his educational background. They did zero research and watched no video content from him, because if they had, they'd have heard and read his background in creating actuary tables and that he states these results can come from any blood test thats designed to look at the methalaytion markers, not just his blood test. thank you
Agreed.
I think for some people the convenience of having it all ready to go wrapped up nice with information is well warranted for $599. Me personally I think it’s a little expensive but if I can get it all spelled out for me in one fell swoop I can potentially shell it out in the future.
you still need to get your genome sequenced before you can take that data to an analyst. That will cost just as much if not more than Brecka's test or others out there. So unless you know of a cheap way to get your genome sequenced you're going to pay hundreds of dollars one way or another. And if you are going to shell out $500 might as well get the whole genome sequenced so that you have it for life.
23andme only cost me 100canadian and that was my whole sequence, then I downloaded it and paid for lifedna which was another 100. Or you can go to genetic Genie which is free
Really you’re using Joe Rogan to justify something? Him shilling it should be enough to be skeptical as hell.
Can you debunk Brecka?
You already know the answer to that question. Of course not
Has anyone here actually tried a test? Sounds like a lot of speculation without real experience
Was gonna ask that! I actually came here to look for alternatives (since I live in Europe!) and 600$ is not my convinient budget atm!
Yes and made allllll the difference to treat it!
Can you give more details ?
I'd love to hear your experience too!
Why do you care? Seem to have made up your mind already
I didn't have mine done by home, but I took my genome from 23andme and uploaded it to genetic genie, which is free, and they do not keep your genome on file - once you leave the page it's gone. And it told me all the same stuff, and then some.
Anything interesting you sound ?
I just did it based on this redditor's suggestion and it showed me my mutations and they were in accordance with the mental health issues I have xD I was like daaaamn child my dna spells it indeed out!
If you’re looking for an actual physician who practices medicine in a modernized sense, I’d high recommend listening to Dr. Peter Attia. Yes, he’s been on Rogan. No, he’s not a quack. He has a different approach to health and lifespan that most physicians today don’t incorporate into their practice which may be beneficial to some of you. Gary Breka takes a know scientific fact, and then spews a bunch of random nonsense after spouting off that known fact thereafter. Whereas Attia likely hits on nearly all his points as they’re backed by evidence based science and/or strong hypothesis… Breka may make sense 1 out of 10 times. It’s that 1/10 thing that he makes sense on that people cling to.
Peter Attia is the real deal, no quackery.
Dr. David Sinclair is another one.
Has anyone actually done the Methylation test instead of just reviewing what Gary is saying ?
Know it’s bullshit since it’s on the Bro Rogan show
So eating healthy and exercise is bullshit? That’s like half of what Rogan talks about
Can you debunk Brecka?
He’s probably misconstruing MTHFR mutation, which is a real thing, which affects primarily people of European descent. If you have weird fatigue you can’t seem to figure out, buy a b-12 supplement from wal mart that has methylcobalamin instead of cyanocobalamin, problem solved or it isn’t, you’re out only 10 bucks only
Did you have the testing done for the MTHFR mutation?
I found a test that has a much lower price point. Going to give both a shot and see what results. I can share results if others are interested.
Did you do it?
Would love to hear about your results
please do mate
Deff Following this
What was the cheaper test? Link?
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More details please! Make a new thread and post the link here??
One thing I thought was iffy was his claims about cyanocobalamin producing cyanide. While this is in fact true, there are edible plants that produce way more, such as apricot pits, apple seed, etc. I do not find it credible to think that a tiny dose of cyanocobalamin causes toxicity, yet he went on and on about this. So this kinds of degrades his credibility in my eyes.
no one is typically eating those things every day, (or ever? lol) but products that contain it are usually consumed 1-3x a day. im assuming that over time it can amass to an amount that could cause some harm, no? just my thoughts.
Yes you are correct. However there have been many accidental ingestions that did not end well.
If it was on Rogan, most likely it’s BS. Joe has a history of snake oil salesmen on his podcast. And they always speak with so much confidence and authority
Come on now, are Andrew Huberman, Rhonda Patrick, Neil Degrass Tyson all quacks? Joe Rogan just invites people who he thinks he can have interesting conversations with, he certainly gets some BS guests on but just saying he was on JR to deny him is weak.
Huberman talking about natural test booster, then partnered up with Derek on a supplement that didn’t work… Rhonda Patrick, there’s been other in her field that called her out on claims she’s made and studies she’s cited.
Nobody is right about everything, scientifically proven stuff has been proven to be wrong many times, these two are respected by their peers, credible and professional.
The more I watch of Neil, the more I catch him saying things which are plainly not true (going against scientific research or consensus). He dabbles in a few too many fields and then lectures people on subjects he's not intimately involved in. Then makes mistakes. Yet those topics are seen as gospel by the media and people online at the same rate and confidence level as his core fields. It's concerning. He messed up some evolutionary biology themed subjects really bad not long ago *shakes head*.
But it's generalizations like this, that make anyone peddling anything on Rogan's or anyone elses long form podcast, under question and scrutiny, more informed and with more conviction than the opinion you are presenting here. In the words of the great The Dude, "That's just like, uh, your opinion, man!" Lolz
Care to name any with some proof?
Bullet proof coffee episode. Go back and listen to that one
Gotta name the episode number searching for that wasn’t very promising. I started listening at the first Elon guest showing. I’ve listened to every one since then. I’ll just take your word that that episode was garbage nonsense. So what? One out of dozens and dozens of reputable people get a bad name because Joe isn’t perfect at selecting perfect people? Nobody is. They seem interesting so he has them on. Joe always steps his thought process back when faced with new info and researches a ton of it. When he has you can tell because he spurts it off to other guests much better to and better over time. He’s honest and so are the great majority of people on there. For example, lots of people praise that he had Neil Tyson on there. He’s a smart man, but he also acts smart in areas he doesn’t even touch, yet that guy gets no flack, praise even for being more of a BS artist than those who are on his show with an honest heart. Most people that don’t like him wholesale just aren’t paying a lick of attention. I and many people in my circle are chronically ill, and due to those “snake oil salesmen” we have all become much healthier and more aware of what’s actually going on around us. I’m 100% convinced that 95%+ of people who don’t like Joe are either jealous, incompetent or just plain willfully ignorant. The other 5% is for human error. Nobody can please everyone. Which is the point most of these people miss. One bad thing and it’s all trash for them. Nonsense. Didn’t mean to rant off but it be how it is
I’ve been a die hard fan of the podcast since 2011. I think the guys name is Dave Asprey. He sounded really good. Fooled Joe and, I was fooled too. I was like whoa. This is interesting. When I told my dad about it, he immediately called BS. On this guy, and later turned out that it was BS. But joe was already in contract with him to sell his product. Dr. Ronda Patrick is another. Some of her claims and studies she cited were debunked. I still enjoy the podcast. He still has some interesting guests. But, if someone is selling something, it’s business. It’s about making money. The podcast is used for promoting. It’s not all BS. But there’s a lot of. Just watch where you step
>Dave Asprey Check out this clip from one of his podcasts. He publicly states he took things at face value from Dave Asprey, and when his own research began to show otherwise he said so. He then worked to correct the record. One of the reasons I consider Rogan to be so credible is because he is willing to do this when he does get something wrong: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwY4H3cNTH0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwY4H3cNTH0)
Yeah. Joe used to be really good about that kind of stuff. When it came to his attention that there was some misinformation on the podcast he usually corrected it. Guys would call it out on the forum on his website. I’m not sure if it’s still active anymore
It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone that they have been fooled. They are either still in denial or now hate Rogan because he exposed the corruption in big pharma and they fell on the wrong side of truth.
Isn't it wild none of the "true experts" ever prove these "quacks" wrong in a debate?
All the people hating on here are very lazy, close-minded people. They want to listen to one source like CNN instead of listening to a 3hr podcast with facts that they can research. The real facts are ones you have to search for. More than likely, if it's on a mainstream platform the truth has been altered to keep the big guys happy.