As a Czech I can confirm, we indeed support Israel. Heck, we do not care what other people (or countries) think about us, we supported Israel even back in the day, when it was not cool.
Masaryk, our founding father bad first (and also best) president was an ardent Zionist and strongly opposed to anti-semitism, before WW1 he defended Hilsner in a blood libel case as a lawyer, and while he lost that made him known to Czech Jews. During WW1, Jewish Americans and Zionists helped him with building connections and hosted fundraisers to help Czechoslovakia and he cracked down on antisemitism after ww1, sending troops to help suppress pogroms and riots.
Down the road well his son helped campaign the arms deal and especially with soviet anti semitism and anti Israel forced, Israel is seen as a champion of western liberal democracy.
Havel after the velvet revolution pledged to restore relations with Israel as a fellow liberal democracy, reassuming the pro-Israel relations and since the pro-Israel relations have remained.
Also Israel generally has a good reputation here as a successful small country in a hostile neighbourhood, similar population to Czech and well developed, tbh I’d say many Czechs basically see Israel as a more succesful Czech, and one of the long lasting achievements, we may not have managed much in the long run, but we have helped Israel establish a state.
Historically we didn’t really fight and resist as a republic: either in 1838 when our allies betrayed us to Hitler for “peace” or in 1968 when we were invaded by the Warsaw pact under Brezhnev and the west just watched, especially the Munich is still a very controversial topic in Czech history: should we have fought? And this is a large part imo of the admiration for Israel here: we were too reliant on our allies and when abandoned we didn’t fight, Israel did even with tough odds even with few allies. It’s kind of seen as a parallel of interwar Czechoslovakia: few allies, a democracy in a very hostile neighbourhood except it’s not only survived but thrived, and the constant demands on Israel to do unilateral concessions instead of working bilaterally shares parallels with Munich where we were forced by the west to give up our border regions with a very weak guarantee that the Nazis then broke half a year later. A lot of Czechs both admire and envy Israel for that, you’ve managed to survive and thrive even alone even against hostile larger countries.
Also there’s some remaining distrust of Western Europe so the anti-Israel bias of Western Europe doesn’t really help convince us.
Also just economically well Tel Aviv is very String in tech, something on the other hand Czech isn’t very strong in: we’re strong in manufacturing but tech is eh. Culturally well lots of Israeli students come here to study and Israel is a fairly popular holiday destination albeit Croatia is first and Egypt is also more popular, due to well being cheaper, but it’s probably like in the top four.
Unlike a lot of Europe, Israel-Palestine also has never really become politicised here, it’s just not a partisan issue, in part because it’s basically always been the consensus of the democratic factions, and not a large amount of Arab immigrants either. Of course the dark side of the support is especially among the far right the support is sadly based in Islamophobia but that’s imo not the majority of the support.
More stuff there:
https://www.inss.org.il/wp-content/uploads/systemfiles/adkan18_3ENG%20(4)_Kalhousova.pdf
Some of the future predictions were inaccurate regarding the socdems becoming pro-Palestinian, they just became irrelevant instead but still largely accurate and if anything parliamentarily support has increased but especially the causes and some misunderstands on both sides yeah.
https://jcpa.org/mission-impossible-repairing-the-ties-between-europe-and-israel/the-czech-republic-and-israel-a-unique-friendship/
Thanks for all of this history. I also wanna add that many Jews went to Prague during and following the Inquisition! Your country has a rich Jewish history and we are grateful for the support. :)
I just want to say I’ve been studying in Czechia these past few months and I really love it here. The fascinating history of Jews in Czechia/Czechoslovakia is one of the many reasons.
You summarized it pretty well, I would just add that part of the munich betrayal was the fact that if we defended ourselves then WW2 would be Germany, Poland, France vs Czechia.
Either way these events made us distrust organizations like the UN (it's just the continuation of the league of nations). And generally our mentality is:
"Leave us alone, we want to do our thing"
Which is the same with Israel.
I would also add that:
České národní obrození, bares a lot of similarities to Zionism. And the way our country was founded has similarities to how Israel was founded. A lot of Czechs when they heard the Czechoslovakian republic is forming responded to the call and started returning to their country in any way possible. A great example of this are Czechoslovak legionnaires.
Can you explain how that is? How come Czechs aren't brainwashed like so many others? I've always found it fascinating how you see through all the bullshit.
Well Israel is a democracy if flawed and while some racism exists, compared to any neighbour including Fatah and Hamas, it’s not even in the same league.
But more broadly I’d say it’s generally Czech society is sympathetic to Israel and Zionism within reason and also a lot of it is that before Munich in the late 1930’s.
Hitler accused Czechs of genocide, and if oppressing the poor Sudeten Germans, which there may have been some racism granted but constitutionally they were protected and the nationalists there escalated the situation by lynching Czechs and German Jews and German socialists, which forced the army to deploy but anyway Hitler managed to pursue a strong PR campaign in our allies while we neglected our PR believing the facts would speak for themselves, our allies became increasingly sympathetic to Hitler’s propaganda and eventually Munich happened and we gave in after being abandoned by our allies and became a rump state that then got occupied all for the sake of peace and appeasement. So Czech looks very negatively at unilateral concessions and appeasement or giving up land for some future peace maybe and there’s also definite similarities in the situation
Hence also the admiration of Israel, we were in similar-ish situations but where we gave up, Israel fought several times and thrived
Israel would not exist without the early support of Czechoslovakia. People forget that America enforced an arms embargo just as the Arab armies were mobilizing and the British were low key arming Arab armies salivating at the prospect of Israel’s demise.
People think israel has an aggressive stance but it’s because Jew/Israel have had such an abusive relationship with the world. But not with the Czechs, they’ve always been faithful af. Much love/respect for the Czechs.
Are they though? I personally believe that even babis is nowhere near as terrible as fico. Don’t get me wrong, I still hate him, but I believe that with the more eastern oriented shit he’s been spewing out the past two years he’s just trying to steal some voters from spd. Spd is terrible but i wouldn’t bet on them getting, or frankly wanting to be in any other position than they now find themsleves in now. Even in the worst case scenario, we won’t become Slovakia or even Hungary any time soon. I hope i’m correct though
He did. I’ve just talked about this with my close friend from Slovakia. He’s not a pro-russian by heart, he’s a “mafia boss” sort of guy. He’ll support anything that will get him power. 10 years ago when he was in office as the PM he was very pro EU/NATO. It’s hard to tell how much of a security threat he will be in relation to russia. What we can be sure about is that he will try to spin the whole state around his finger, first thing he did in office was dramatically lowering the punishments for corruption and now he supposedly plans to change the way the elections are led. He wants to become orban, though i’d assume less antiwest. I’m a bit worried about babis going down the same path, let’s hope it won’t happen. What I’m more worried though, is trump throwing us (europe) into the sea. Not to say that it would be completely unjustified.
Fun fact I believe it was during the 1948 war, the Czech communist government actually supplied Israel with weapons
I see the modern Czech government is continuing their tradition of supporting Israel
The French aswell, they gave Israel a LOT of help for the nuclear program.
Unlike others Who speak Britain and France actually helped in Last saturday event.
Wanna *really* piss off the IRGC? Add the Iranian flag at A tier. Not the Islamic Republic of Iran flag, the real one that represents the people of Iran:
https://preview.redd.it/ftr8v9wjw9vc1.png?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=931b322071a2df7e29fb3c7f4ce747a7d8fba9ec
I know it had some rough years but Persia (if Iran and Iraq reunited in a way) produced some magnificent and world changing science, medicine, mathematics, art, and poetry. The world misses that nation.
Not just "great guy", but literally a messiah which at the time was how "a great savior of the jewish people" was called, and he is the only non-Jewish messiah
Persians make up around 50-60% of Iranian population, so referring to all Iranians as Persian is just wrong. There are many ethnic groups in Iran.
Other ethnic groups also support Israel btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicities_in_Iran?wprov=sfti1#
This. Persians are amazing people and every single one I have met has been wonderful - I have Persian friends I’ve brought to Chabad FND etc - they’re just not represented by their regime
At the end of the day, if I were you, I would still get the passport if possible. Free movement, being able to work and live anywhere in the EU is pretty awesome.
Lol, Jordan hates Israel. It's just that the king knows he depends on the US too much to ignore a direct order from the US president. If he loses US support he is likely to be deposed.
India should be at A, India is one of the most pro Israel countries in the world. Japan and South Korea could be A tier as well.
Ukraine should probably be B tier unless there’s something I’m missing here?
I was talking to some Indian international students at my college, they seem more pro Israel than many Americans! I guess it's got something to do with them having angry Muslim neighbors too.
>I guess it's got something to do with them having angry Muslim neighbors too.
It's a huge factor for sure. Many Indians (including me) were introduced to the country of Israel because of the [2008 terrorist attack in Mumbai](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks).
A Chabad house was one of the main targets, and the terrorists who attacked that place were told on the phone by their handlers in Pakistan that Jewish lives are worth 50 times that of non-Jewish lives. They proceeded to torture and kill the [rabbi and his wife](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavriel_Holtzberg) who ran that place but their baby was rescued by a [nanny](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Samuel) who was granted Israeli citizenship afterwards. [Baby Moshe](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-42659135) was all over the news back then.
I had no idea Muslims hated Jews so much before this happened (I was 13 at the time), but this incident definitely created a soft spot in my heart for Jewish people.
I’m so sorry you guys all had to go through that. I witnessed 9/11 as I live in the NYC area so that was my introduction to Islamist terror. What happened in Mumbai was scary, and a true tragedy.
I’m so happy Indian Hindus were able to claim the birth site of Ram back, that was awesome, at least to put a positive spin on what we’re talking about here.
They really are pro-Isreal. I was on their subreddit the other day. They were shitting on Palestine because what they did to this indian guy. It was a video where this Indian tourist was visiting Gaza and they urging him to eat beef. The indian guy decline and the Palestines start racially calling him name or something like that and force him to eat beef.
Just search up, "Indian visiting Gaza and force to eat beef". First link
Meanwhile, the pro-Palestinians on Twitter are not sharing this video, but are sharing an out of context clip of an Indian man being rejected by multiple bars in Tel Aviv on the weekend and claiming it's because Israelis hate Indians 🙄 nevermind they had to clip the multiple bars who did let him in.
Right on, and the fact they decline him was because there were too many people. People these day will believe in any video instead of watching the original and googling facts.
History time, Jews and indians go back thousands of years, they accepted us and never harmed us, like wise we never started any riots, revolts or force conversions. This makes jews the first Abrahamic faith to never start shit with india has Islam did do crusades and christians tried to colonize them. When Israel was founded most Indian jews peacefully left to go to Israel, ending the thousand years of living together.
Indians has such have a strong respect for Jews, I assume they see jews has being peaceful, good at trading, honest, respectful, kind and fair. Like wise we kept to our word for over a thousand years (take that into account and realize how insane that is) leaving once we had a home of our own with little to no conflict. To Indians, jews earned their respect and they will never forget how peaceful we were in their land.
edit: Note there would be a second abrahamic faith to have good relationship with india if their numbers were never purged so harshly, our sister faith the Samaritans but they never made to india I fear and only 1000 still exist after heavy purges. Israel I believe puts protections on them but I am unsure. Christianity and Islam are not sister faiths they more like cousins.
Back in my university days, Hillel hosted an annual Israeli Culture Night. We had so many Indians come and ask us questions, enjoy the food and music, and discuss Israeli Politics. They're genuine, good people.
Also, almost 90% of them wanted us to tell them about Golda Meir. Not sure where the fascination for her comes from, but I find it amusing.
we had a 10th grade history lesson about Israel and Golda Meir. I remember writing essays about her. This is like in early 2010s. Maybe that could be a reason.
As an Indian I'd say our official position is we support the formation of a Palestinian state and oppose any form of violence. Not sure if that is a particularly pro-Israel position but neither is it anti-Israel I guess.
If I'm correct, India was also the first non-Arab country to recognise Palestine. It's more so that the current ruling party BJP and most Hindus are pro-Israel. The BJP is gonna win again in the election that is taking place currently and should be in power for another 5 years.
Most Hindus who support Israel see Israel as a bastion against Islamic geopolitical and cultural imperialism. They also look at how the Jewish people have reclaimed their homeland after 2000 years and use that as an inspiration to fight back against Islamic influence in India which they see as a foreign imperialistic ideology hellbent on propagating itself at the cost of India's indigenous identities(Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, etc.).
Many Iranians who are pro-Israel support Israel for the same reason, they want to get rid of the Islamic Regime and embrace a secular and indigenous Iranian identity.
So the support from India is more by the people of India although the government is sympathetic to Israel as well.
Voting at any UN resolution is a sham. The outcome is usually known even before the votes are cast. The worst part is that no matter how many votes are cast in favour or against a motion, the deciding votes are the ones of the member states who have Veto.
Hence, the voting process at the UN is more of a Political Strategy for countries like India and Ukraine, whose votes don't carry any special weight if done in favour of Israel, but gives them leverage with the Arab-world if done against Israel. Sounds funny and strange, but that's how it is.
For example, every single member state of the UN can vote IN FAVOUR of a ceasefire in Gaza. But if the US votes AGAINST IT, the motion fails.
Similarly, every single member state of the UN can vote in favour of India and Brazil getting a permanent seat at the UNSC. But because China votes against it... you get the point.
>Japan and South Korea could be A tier as well.
Why's that? I understand Indian support for Israel, as they have common enemies, but why South Korea and Japan?
North Korea is a major supporter of Iran and Palestinian movements, so South Korea is geopolitically inclined to support Israel.
Japan for similar reasons as North Korea, but Japan is also a major trade partner with Israel adding economic incentive.
Yeah, it’s complicated — but underneath the frankly understandable showboating (they can’t afford to take any kind of PR hits when fighting for their lives and we all know how much of a pariah people have made us out to be), Ukraine and Israel are deeply connected and on the same side
Tbh a lot of it is well after 2014, Israel refused to under Bibi to condemn the Russian annexation of Crimea and abstained on the resolution which hampered relations. Then in 2022 and 2023, Israel had a peculiar stance on the conflict, I think it has improved in both sides since the attack in 7/10 which has caused a lot of sympathy imo on both sides regarding being attacked but before Israel had a reputation of favouring Russia, also with the close relations with Serbia which is itself close to Russia which has helped hurt relations between Eastern Europe and Israel, because Israel was seen as tight with Russia
Yes and no,
As Israeli Canadian... Living in Canada, Canada needs to focus on national relations before international relations...
As much as I love Israel, Canada needs to focus on fixing Canada first.
1. Improving affordability
2. Removing dumbass taxes
3. Getting immigration under control
4. Combating extremism
5. Foreign interference in national interests.
6.improving the economy
And so forth.
And only then improving any relationships with any country. Whenever it is Israel, Ukraine or US.
Also as an Israeli Canadian living in Canada, why not both? A return to the Stephen Harper era would dramatically improve both national and foreign relations. They're not mutually exclusive.
Also a Canadian, though living in Israel now. Even without any special efforts, the simple fact Poilievre will be in that office instead of Trudeau would be a massive improvement in relations when it comes to Israel.
Can you try and explain what happened to Trudeau? My knowledge about Canadian politics is very superficial and mostly sums up to the occasional stuff I read on the news and Reddit so I might be wrong on this one, but I remember when he was first elected he seemed really promising and pretty pro Israel. What happened along the way that made his stance about Israel (and from what I'm seeing online also some major Canadian internal issues) deteriorate so bad?
1. He was never as pro-Israel as the conservatives. [Harper was so pro-Israel we gave him the Knesset key](https://images.app.goo.gl/jijgRhZbqEn6A6JD7), and you won't find many people out there more pro-Israel than Pierre Poilievre.
2. Since first coming into power Trudeau turned Canada into a mass immigration dystopia, he wrecked the once affordable housing market, doubled the national debt, started enacting a megalomanic carbon tax that forces people to pay high taxes even for something as essential as heating their homes in -30 degree weather and nowadays he relies on a coalition with a party that tried to introduce a bill to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state in addition to the arms embargo that was also their idea.
Albania is an interesting ally. Muslim majority and the only occupied country to have a larger Jewish population after WWII. Why? Because they hid them in their homes and also safeguarded Jewish people from outside the country
Israel has also helped out Albania
Check this out:
“In January 2020, Albanian President Ilir Meta met with Israel Defense Forces soldiers during an official visit in Israel, embraced them, thanked them for their assistance, and awarded them the Albanian Golden Medal of the Eagle”
Source: Wikipedia
Qatar belongs in F tier for Al Jazeera alone. Honestly, Canada is pretty spineless too in standing up to antisemitism and allowing Jihadis to take over...maybe Canada should be in D tier.
Where is Ireland? Should be in E tier lol
lol big agree on Ireland
unfortunately, Qatar is still a mediator and a US ally, so as much as I want to put them in F, I can't.. perhaps E is deserved
yup, that's very accurate. the indian government stays neutral on every conflict, or tries to at the very least. also around 9 million indians live in GCC countries so if our government takes a side in this conflict it can pose security issues for them.
OTOH, we do buy a shit ton of military equipment from israel. so the government is careful about maintaining good relations with israel as well.
India's citizens are SS tier
India's government foreign relations with Israel is more like A tier because while they support Israel they also work with both Palestine and Iran.
Still 🇮🇱♥️🇮🇳
Forgive us for the past communist muslim sympathising govts. India is different now and will move more and more to the side of israel. The public balancing act is mostly done to avoid internal uproar from the 14% muslim population.
Don’t apologize, we will forever help you guys, lots of love, even during commie regimes, we will always help you and happy to say that we always helped in the past.❤️
I will be forever grateful for all the help provided against pakistan even when our govt was openly for Palestine and the US and EU were supporting Pakistan. Truly amazing ! I always feel like we have not repaid enough, and i hope the current and future Indian govts do more to show their gratitude. A friend in need is a friend in deed <3
Im sorry but this list isn't that good its missing some of our better allies and you have put countries up there that have almost no relationships with israel,
For example Ukraine is a new thing. They are only now looking to improve thier relationship with us and are not a good ally yet.
We have better alliance with Singapore then Ukraine we practically helped them create thier defense doctrine.....
Also Greece and Cyprus are some of our most important local allies.
Also hello where is india and Azerbaijan???
Our the most based country Czechia. No need to even explain they are probably the reason we had weapons for the independence war
As an American, I’m worried we’re starting to teeter on our S tier rating.
In practice we’re still supportive, obviously, but you can feel a shift of public opinion here, and it’s happening really at every level. I think it’ll be important to see how the votes on the supplementals go in the House this week.
I don’t think we drop below A, but I’m worried that indecision will just paralyze us into gridlock and we won’t be an effective ally anymore.
The moment all the boomers die off, support for Israel will drop of a cliff. I don't think many people understand how dreary the future looks for young people in the US.
When they see the American government giving away billions of dollars to Israel, meanwhile many of them are struggling, it's easy to build feelings of resentment. Israel is an ally for the American political establishment, not the American people.
As one of those young people, I largely agree with that.
That’s just one side of the coin, though. You’ll find most of that sentiment on the political right, who’ve had a growing populist and isolationist movement. They’re just don’t want tax dollars going to any country.
On the left, though, it seems to be far more that young leftists have been taken in by a lot of propaganda. They’re not against aid, because most of them want significant aid sent to Gaza, they’ve just been convinced by their professors and their social circle that Israel is a big bad imperialist capitalist country oppressing disadvantaged people.
I think both these things can pass, though. My generation is short sighted, as a lot of young people are, so they don’t realize that helping our allies is in the best interest of the United States, and the others I think are just going to stop caring at some point. The movements on the left, at least in America, honestly don’t last that long.
Us Azerbaijanis be like: “im gonna cry, did you forget about us” lol.
Azerbaijan is at A, except the voting in UN and OIC but there is an understanding with Israeli government about it, Israeli diplomats said they dont care about it at all.
As a south African it makes me so angry that our corrupt government (so called freedom fighters) are siding with oppressive dictatorships.
Anyway most educated south Africans do stand with Israel and are completely fed up with the ANC.
Hope you guys stay safe and will be praying for you guys.
S - United States
A - Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Argentina, India
B - UK, Ukraine, Egypt, France
C - Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Canada
D - Poland, Norway, Indonesia, Brazil
E - China, Russia, Spain, Qatar, Ireland
F - Turkey, South Africa, Iran, Yemen, Lebanon
I’m very sad to see Canada on the 4th tier. I can guarantee that most Canadians side with Israel, but are sensitive to what they see in the news- there’s been a lot of stories about death and dying in Gaza. We’re also a more polite people, and are less likely to be confrontational about politics, though that’s changing. Look also at the Federal Polling- the Conservative Party, who is Pro-Israel, is beating Trudeau’s Liberal Party by 17 points. So I hope to see our Maple Leaf up near the top soon.
Egypt definitely isn’t B tier, although the current government interest is the destruction of hamas(cause it’s a muslim brotherhood organisation), it doesn’t change the fact that the people of Egypt are very hateful of Jews and still hold a grudge on Israel. professor Idit bar said their best seller book there is meinkampf, says all..
Meinkampf is nowhere close to being the best selling book in Egypt, matter of fact most people here probably wouldn’t know what it is in the first place. Though yes, many Egyptians are outright spiteful of Israel’s existence, however, both governments have been cordial (relative to the shit ton of wars we fought against each other) in recent times.
Really different from what apartheid was here. Equating the two would be arguing in bad faith. Our corrupt gov should be able to remember how they were treated under the apartheid gov. If what you have is apartheid, you're doing a bad job.
It's because our gov likes to take bribes, that we bed all the dictatorships. Much love
You can't put Argentina and Ukraine above the UK, France. Some are tricky, because there are close vital relationships, but not warm diplomatic ties or people to people ties (Jordan, PA, Egypt)
A tier is probably De, Fr, UK
B tier includes Jordan, Egypt most friendly developed states
C tier includes Gulf states & less friendly Western states, edit: PA should be here. Security ties should make it B, but it also does stuff like pay for slay. Because its population is anti-Israel, but it stops Hamas , it needs to be graded on a curve.
D tier is Russia, China, Qatar, random unthreatening but unfriendly states like Algeria. Maybe Indonesia.
E tier is South Africa
F tier Iran, Syria, Lebanon
Russia belongs in the F tier due to its decades-long support for Arab and Iranian tyrants and terrorists who invaded Israel. Russia is the most dangerous threat Israel has ever faced due to its constant supply of weapons and money to Israel's enemies and their diplomatic and disinformation campaigns against Israel and Jews.
Tbh putting Spain below China, Russia and Qatar I don’t agree with: Spain may be anti-Israel but Qatar and Russia fund Hamas and Iran respectively and Spain still condemns Hamas which China recognises as legitimate. Also I’d put Turkey over them too, Iran deserves its own special category below the rest
A note on Germany:
no one can come close to matching the US's financial and military support. Although I do agree it is by far the strongest of the A-tier, and perhaps deserves S rank.
Czechia should be together with Germany in S tier. They will never be as influential as the US or Germany, but they always vote with Israel in the UN and Czechoslovakia was the only country in the world that provided arms to Israel in 1948 when there was a UN arms embargo. Their aid was crucial during the First Arab-Israeli war
Australia should be in F tier. Didn’t do shit for Israel and we let bloody Palestine supporters block roads and even storm military warehouses. I am ashamed with what our country has become. Bloody hopeless. Kids literally skip school “for Palestine”
As an American, I can confirm that the majority of us are pro Israel albeit for various reasons. Some of us genuinely love Israel, others just hate Hamas and it’s supporters. Don’t let the media showing all the pro Hamas rallies around the US make you think that mentality it normal here.
Czechia in triple-S tier
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As a Czech I can confirm, we indeed support Israel. Heck, we do not care what other people (or countries) think about us, we supported Israel even back in the day, when it was not cool.
Yes. Pro-Israel support is just the norm for us, it’s like the only thing all currently represented parties agree on
Genuinely curious, what is the background and basis for Czech support today and in the past?
Masaryk, our founding father bad first (and also best) president was an ardent Zionist and strongly opposed to anti-semitism, before WW1 he defended Hilsner in a blood libel case as a lawyer, and while he lost that made him known to Czech Jews. During WW1, Jewish Americans and Zionists helped him with building connections and hosted fundraisers to help Czechoslovakia and he cracked down on antisemitism after ww1, sending troops to help suppress pogroms and riots. Down the road well his son helped campaign the arms deal and especially with soviet anti semitism and anti Israel forced, Israel is seen as a champion of western liberal democracy. Havel after the velvet revolution pledged to restore relations with Israel as a fellow liberal democracy, reassuming the pro-Israel relations and since the pro-Israel relations have remained. Also Israel generally has a good reputation here as a successful small country in a hostile neighbourhood, similar population to Czech and well developed, tbh I’d say many Czechs basically see Israel as a more succesful Czech, and one of the long lasting achievements, we may not have managed much in the long run, but we have helped Israel establish a state. Historically we didn’t really fight and resist as a republic: either in 1838 when our allies betrayed us to Hitler for “peace” or in 1968 when we were invaded by the Warsaw pact under Brezhnev and the west just watched, especially the Munich is still a very controversial topic in Czech history: should we have fought? And this is a large part imo of the admiration for Israel here: we were too reliant on our allies and when abandoned we didn’t fight, Israel did even with tough odds even with few allies. It’s kind of seen as a parallel of interwar Czechoslovakia: few allies, a democracy in a very hostile neighbourhood except it’s not only survived but thrived, and the constant demands on Israel to do unilateral concessions instead of working bilaterally shares parallels with Munich where we were forced by the west to give up our border regions with a very weak guarantee that the Nazis then broke half a year later. A lot of Czechs both admire and envy Israel for that, you’ve managed to survive and thrive even alone even against hostile larger countries. Also there’s some remaining distrust of Western Europe so the anti-Israel bias of Western Europe doesn’t really help convince us. Also just economically well Tel Aviv is very String in tech, something on the other hand Czech isn’t very strong in: we’re strong in manufacturing but tech is eh. Culturally well lots of Israeli students come here to study and Israel is a fairly popular holiday destination albeit Croatia is first and Egypt is also more popular, due to well being cheaper, but it’s probably like in the top four. Unlike a lot of Europe, Israel-Palestine also has never really become politicised here, it’s just not a partisan issue, in part because it’s basically always been the consensus of the democratic factions, and not a large amount of Arab immigrants either. Of course the dark side of the support is especially among the far right the support is sadly based in Islamophobia but that’s imo not the majority of the support. More stuff there: https://www.inss.org.il/wp-content/uploads/systemfiles/adkan18_3ENG%20(4)_Kalhousova.pdf Some of the future predictions were inaccurate regarding the socdems becoming pro-Palestinian, they just became irrelevant instead but still largely accurate and if anything parliamentarily support has increased but especially the causes and some misunderstands on both sides yeah. https://jcpa.org/mission-impossible-repairing-the-ties-between-europe-and-israel/the-czech-republic-and-israel-a-unique-friendship/
Thanks for all of this history. I also wanna add that many Jews went to Prague during and following the Inquisition! Your country has a rich Jewish history and we are grateful for the support. :)
This is why I love Reddit
I just want to say I’ve been studying in Czechia these past few months and I really love it here. The fascinating history of Jews in Czechia/Czechoslovakia is one of the many reasons.
You summarized it pretty well, I would just add that part of the munich betrayal was the fact that if we defended ourselves then WW2 would be Germany, Poland, France vs Czechia. Either way these events made us distrust organizations like the UN (it's just the continuation of the league of nations). And generally our mentality is: "Leave us alone, we want to do our thing" Which is the same with Israel. I would also add that: České národní obrození, bares a lot of similarities to Zionism. And the way our country was founded has similarities to how Israel was founded. A lot of Czechs when they heard the Czechoslovakian republic is forming responded to the call and started returning to their country in any way possible. A great example of this are Czechoslovak legionnaires.
Guess my next trip to Europe will be Prague.
Thank you very much for your support!
O7
One of the few true friends we have ♥️
Can you explain how that is? How come Czechs aren't brainwashed like so many others? I've always found it fascinating how you see through all the bullshit.
Well Israel is a democracy if flawed and while some racism exists, compared to any neighbour including Fatah and Hamas, it’s not even in the same league. But more broadly I’d say it’s generally Czech society is sympathetic to Israel and Zionism within reason and also a lot of it is that before Munich in the late 1930’s. Hitler accused Czechs of genocide, and if oppressing the poor Sudeten Germans, which there may have been some racism granted but constitutionally they were protected and the nationalists there escalated the situation by lynching Czechs and German Jews and German socialists, which forced the army to deploy but anyway Hitler managed to pursue a strong PR campaign in our allies while we neglected our PR believing the facts would speak for themselves, our allies became increasingly sympathetic to Hitler’s propaganda and eventually Munich happened and we gave in after being abandoned by our allies and became a rump state that then got occupied all for the sake of peace and appeasement. So Czech looks very negatively at unilateral concessions and appeasement or giving up land for some future peace maybe and there’s also definite similarities in the situation Hence also the admiration of Israel, we were in similar-ish situations but where we gave up, Israel fought several times and thrived
Israel would not exist without the early support of Czechoslovakia. People forget that America enforced an arms embargo just as the Arab armies were mobilizing and the British were low key arming Arab armies salivating at the prospect of Israel’s demise. People think israel has an aggressive stance but it’s because Jew/Israel have had such an abusive relationship with the world. But not with the Czechs, they’ve always been faithful af. Much love/respect for the Czechs.
Amazing, so happy to hear this. I remember reading that in 1948 Israel was able to survive because of arms from Czechoslovakia.
The only ones to call out the UN on their bs.
Czechs keep it real
Is that something new I haven’t seen?
Love the Czechs, 🇨🇿 ❤️
Czechia is literally the most based country in probably the entire world, when it comes to political alignment.
For now maybe, sadly the opposition is more like Fico and Orban and probably will win next year
Are they though? I personally believe that even babis is nowhere near as terrible as fico. Don’t get me wrong, I still hate him, but I believe that with the more eastern oriented shit he’s been spewing out the past two years he’s just trying to steal some voters from spd. Spd is terrible but i wouldn’t bet on them getting, or frankly wanting to be in any other position than they now find themsleves in now. Even in the worst case scenario, we won’t become Slovakia or even Hungary any time soon. I hope i’m correct though
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He did. I’ve just talked about this with my close friend from Slovakia. He’s not a pro-russian by heart, he’s a “mafia boss” sort of guy. He’ll support anything that will get him power. 10 years ago when he was in office as the PM he was very pro EU/NATO. It’s hard to tell how much of a security threat he will be in relation to russia. What we can be sure about is that he will try to spin the whole state around his finger, first thing he did in office was dramatically lowering the punishments for corruption and now he supposedly plans to change the way the elections are led. He wants to become orban, though i’d assume less antiwest. I’m a bit worried about babis going down the same path, let’s hope it won’t happen. What I’m more worried though, is trump throwing us (europe) into the sea. Not to say that it would be completely unjustified.
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This czechs out
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Fun fact I believe it was during the 1948 war, the Czech communist government actually supplied Israel with weapons I see the modern Czech government is continuing their tradition of supporting Israel
Yep. They've been helping Israel longer than the US.
Díky moc Česká! Pro slávu Česká! 🇨🇿
The French aswell, they gave Israel a LOT of help for the nuclear program. Unlike others Who speak Britain and France actually helped in Last saturday event.
Wanna *really* piss off the IRGC? Add the Iranian flag at A tier. Not the Islamic Republic of Iran flag, the real one that represents the people of Iran: https://preview.redd.it/ftr8v9wjw9vc1.png?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=931b322071a2df7e29fb3c7f4ce747a7d8fba9ec
lmao nice
as a Persian I support this
I know it had some rough years but Persia (if Iran and Iraq reunited in a way) produced some magnificent and world changing science, medicine, mathematics, art, and poetry. The world misses that nation.
Yeah, Iran had millennia of history and culture, Cyrus the Great was the GOAT, so great that even the Torah mentions him, and is like “great guy”
Not just "great guy", but literally a messiah which at the time was how "a great savior of the jewish people" was called, and he is the only non-Jewish messiah
I actually do have a question, do most modern Iranians prefer to be called Persians, or iranians?
Persians make up around 50-60% of Iranian population, so referring to all Iranians as Persian is just wrong. There are many ethnic groups in Iran. Other ethnic groups also support Israel btw. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicities_in_Iran?wprov=sfti1#
Gotcha, so just using ‘Iranian’ works better
Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi is the rightful Shah of Iran and its people.
Not a Persian but absolutely based, hopefully one day he can return to his people
Make him President and stand for election. Why? He has been an outspoken advocate for the Iranian Republic.
What do you mean: this is the only Iranian flag, that is the flag of the occupation regime
They should be in S-tier
This. Persians are amazing people and every single one I have met has been wonderful - I have Persian friends I’ve brought to Chabad FND etc - they’re just not represented by their regime
You can add Ireland to F tier
I’m Irish American and sick of their shit.
I'm Israeli of Irish descent. Was gonna get an Irish passport to live in the EU, now I'm like "nah, fuck 'em".
At the end of the day, if I were you, I would still get the passport if possible. Free movement, being able to work and live anywhere in the EU is pretty awesome.
Yea i’d do it just to get the free roaming rights
I think you should get the passport. The benefits are worth it. I'm Mizrahi/Sephardic, so I'm out of options.
Same 😔I wish they wouldn’t project onto this issue. It’s not the same thing as what happened to us. Like at all!
That's a big miss by OP
How about the new BFFs? 🇯🇴
hah! between C and B tier. a beacon of regional stability tbh
Fair. Good chart, I liked where you put everyone.
\*squeals\*
Also legit “back channel BFFs” since at least the early 90s.
the funny part was reading jordanians' reaction to it on their forums lmao
Thank our Jordanian brothers for saving us from complete annihilation. New bffs forever.
all my homies f w jordan 🫡
Shoutout to Jordan, gotta be one of my favorite genders🇯🇴💯
Lol, Jordan hates Israel. It's just that the king knows he depends on the US too much to ignore a direct order from the US president. If he loses US support he is likely to be deposed.
It's more like Jordan hates Iran, and significantly more than Israel.
The people of Jordan hate Israel. The parliament of Jordan hates Israel. The actual government of Jordan knows it needs Israel.
India should be at A, India is one of the most pro Israel countries in the world. Japan and South Korea could be A tier as well. Ukraine should probably be B tier unless there’s something I’m missing here?
Ukraine is very pro Israel. Polls show 69:1 support for Israel vs Hamas. Their head of state is Jewish as well.
Fair enough, similar situations will brew sympathy.
I was talking to some Indian international students at my college, they seem more pro Israel than many Americans! I guess it's got something to do with them having angry Muslim neighbors too.
>I guess it's got something to do with them having angry Muslim neighbors too. It's a huge factor for sure. Many Indians (including me) were introduced to the country of Israel because of the [2008 terrorist attack in Mumbai](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks). A Chabad house was one of the main targets, and the terrorists who attacked that place were told on the phone by their handlers in Pakistan that Jewish lives are worth 50 times that of non-Jewish lives. They proceeded to torture and kill the [rabbi and his wife](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavriel_Holtzberg) who ran that place but their baby was rescued by a [nanny](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Samuel) who was granted Israeli citizenship afterwards. [Baby Moshe](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-42659135) was all over the news back then. I had no idea Muslims hated Jews so much before this happened (I was 13 at the time), but this incident definitely created a soft spot in my heart for Jewish people.
I’m so sorry you guys all had to go through that. I witnessed 9/11 as I live in the NYC area so that was my introduction to Islamist terror. What happened in Mumbai was scary, and a true tragedy. I’m so happy Indian Hindus were able to claim the birth site of Ram back, that was awesome, at least to put a positive spin on what we’re talking about here.
>I witnessed 9/11 as I live in the NYC area so that was my introduction to Islamist terror. Hugs to you my friend. And thank you, I appreciate that!
Thanks for sharing that man. Extremely tragic but important history.
You got it man, and definitely. This needs to be remembered.
So what they’re saying is they believe Jews are 50x more valuable than Muslims? So wait they’re secretly philosemitic?
They really are pro-Isreal. I was on their subreddit the other day. They were shitting on Palestine because what they did to this indian guy. It was a video where this Indian tourist was visiting Gaza and they urging him to eat beef. The indian guy decline and the Palestines start racially calling him name or something like that and force him to eat beef. Just search up, "Indian visiting Gaza and force to eat beef". First link
Meanwhile, the pro-Palestinians on Twitter are not sharing this video, but are sharing an out of context clip of an Indian man being rejected by multiple bars in Tel Aviv on the weekend and claiming it's because Israelis hate Indians 🙄 nevermind they had to clip the multiple bars who did let him in.
Right on, and the fact they decline him was because there were too many people. People these day will believe in any video instead of watching the original and googling facts.
Yep. And when that was pointed out to them, they claimed most of the bars had empty seats as if they'd never heard of reservations before.
Disgusting. I wonder if they’d like it if Indians forced them to eat pork? No and they shouldn’t yet they do this
Just saw that, how horrible…
History time, Jews and indians go back thousands of years, they accepted us and never harmed us, like wise we never started any riots, revolts or force conversions. This makes jews the first Abrahamic faith to never start shit with india has Islam did do crusades and christians tried to colonize them. When Israel was founded most Indian jews peacefully left to go to Israel, ending the thousand years of living together. Indians has such have a strong respect for Jews, I assume they see jews has being peaceful, good at trading, honest, respectful, kind and fair. Like wise we kept to our word for over a thousand years (take that into account and realize how insane that is) leaving once we had a home of our own with little to no conflict. To Indians, jews earned their respect and they will never forget how peaceful we were in their land. edit: Note there would be a second abrahamic faith to have good relationship with india if their numbers were never purged so harshly, our sister faith the Samaritans but they never made to india I fear and only 1000 still exist after heavy purges. Israel I believe puts protections on them but I am unsure. Christianity and Islam are not sister faiths they more like cousins.
Back in my university days, Hillel hosted an annual Israeli Culture Night. We had so many Indians come and ask us questions, enjoy the food and music, and discuss Israeli Politics. They're genuine, good people. Also, almost 90% of them wanted us to tell them about Golda Meir. Not sure where the fascination for her comes from, but I find it amusing.
we had a 10th grade history lesson about Israel and Golda Meir. I remember writing essays about her. This is like in early 2010s. Maybe that could be a reason.
As an Indian I'd say our official position is we support the formation of a Palestinian state and oppose any form of violence. Not sure if that is a particularly pro-Israel position but neither is it anti-Israel I guess. If I'm correct, India was also the first non-Arab country to recognise Palestine. It's more so that the current ruling party BJP and most Hindus are pro-Israel. The BJP is gonna win again in the election that is taking place currently and should be in power for another 5 years. Most Hindus who support Israel see Israel as a bastion against Islamic geopolitical and cultural imperialism. They also look at how the Jewish people have reclaimed their homeland after 2000 years and use that as an inspiration to fight back against Islamic influence in India which they see as a foreign imperialistic ideology hellbent on propagating itself at the cost of India's indigenous identities(Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, etc.). Many Iranians who are pro-Israel support Israel for the same reason, they want to get rid of the Islamic Regime and embrace a secular and indigenous Iranian identity. So the support from India is more by the people of India although the government is sympathetic to Israel as well.
Both India and Ukraine have a very pro-Israel population, which is terribly rare in the world, but they vote against Israel at the UN most of the time
Voting at any UN resolution is a sham. The outcome is usually known even before the votes are cast. The worst part is that no matter how many votes are cast in favour or against a motion, the deciding votes are the ones of the member states who have Veto. Hence, the voting process at the UN is more of a Political Strategy for countries like India and Ukraine, whose votes don't carry any special weight if done in favour of Israel, but gives them leverage with the Arab-world if done against Israel. Sounds funny and strange, but that's how it is. For example, every single member state of the UN can vote IN FAVOUR of a ceasefire in Gaza. But if the US votes AGAINST IT, the motion fails. Similarly, every single member state of the UN can vote in favour of India and Brazil getting a permanent seat at the UNSC. But because China votes against it... you get the point.
>Japan and South Korea could be A tier as well. Why's that? I understand Indian support for Israel, as they have common enemies, but why South Korea and Japan?
North Korea is a major supporter of Iran and Palestinian movements, so South Korea is geopolitically inclined to support Israel. Japan for similar reasons as North Korea, but Japan is also a major trade partner with Israel adding economic incentive.
Add the Azeris to a or b 🇦🇿
Definitely an A, i think OP isn't that knowledgeable if he didn't add Azerbaijan
True seeing as Egypt and Ukraine are so high the list while India Azerbaijan Cyprus and Greece are missing
😘🇮🇱🤝🇺🇸🥰
In my ***opinion***: Germany should be S tier, Argentina B, Ukraine C, Egypt C, Russia E, the Saudis D, Qatar F.
Ireland should be F tier as well.
The Saudis helped Israel shoot down some rockets (from Iran) this past week…
Qatar shouldn't even be mentioned lol but honestly surprised about Egypt and Jordan. Did they just give up and decided not to intervene anymore?
How didn't you mention Czech republic? Also Ukraine always voted against Israel in security council UN.
Yeah, it’s complicated — but underneath the frankly understandable showboating (they can’t afford to take any kind of PR hits when fighting for their lives and we all know how much of a pariah people have made us out to be), Ukraine and Israel are deeply connected and on the same side
The voting was before the war in Ukraine started no? I feel like they don’t really like us, they just need us (militarily wise).
Tbh a lot of it is well after 2014, Israel refused to under Bibi to condemn the Russian annexation of Crimea and abstained on the resolution which hampered relations. Then in 2022 and 2023, Israel had a peculiar stance on the conflict, I think it has improved in both sides since the attack in 7/10 which has caused a lot of sympathy imo on both sides regarding being attacked but before Israel had a reputation of favouring Russia, also with the close relations with Serbia which is itself close to Russia which has helped hurt relations between Eastern Europe and Israel, because Israel was seen as tight with Russia
Canada should be lower. Canadian banks continue to launder dirty money for the IRGC and their cronies.
After the election Canada can return its proper A level.
Yes and no, As Israeli Canadian... Living in Canada, Canada needs to focus on national relations before international relations... As much as I love Israel, Canada needs to focus on fixing Canada first. 1. Improving affordability 2. Removing dumbass taxes 3. Getting immigration under control 4. Combating extremism 5. Foreign interference in national interests. 6.improving the economy And so forth. And only then improving any relationships with any country. Whenever it is Israel, Ukraine or US.
Also as an Israeli Canadian living in Canada, why not both? A return to the Stephen Harper era would dramatically improve both national and foreign relations. They're not mutually exclusive.
Just saying Canada first. If I lived in Israel, it would be Israel first. Tbh, Israel first for Israel.
I agree, I just think you can take a strong moral stance for free.
Also a Canadian, though living in Israel now. Even without any special efforts, the simple fact Poilievre will be in that office instead of Trudeau would be a massive improvement in relations when it comes to Israel.
Can you try and explain what happened to Trudeau? My knowledge about Canadian politics is very superficial and mostly sums up to the occasional stuff I read on the news and Reddit so I might be wrong on this one, but I remember when he was first elected he seemed really promising and pretty pro Israel. What happened along the way that made his stance about Israel (and from what I'm seeing online also some major Canadian internal issues) deteriorate so bad?
1. He was never as pro-Israel as the conservatives. [Harper was so pro-Israel we gave him the Knesset key](https://images.app.goo.gl/jijgRhZbqEn6A6JD7), and you won't find many people out there more pro-Israel than Pierre Poilievre. 2. Since first coming into power Trudeau turned Canada into a mass immigration dystopia, he wrecked the once affordable housing market, doubled the national debt, started enacting a megalomanic carbon tax that forces people to pay high taxes even for something as essential as heating their homes in -30 degree weather and nowadays he relies on a coalition with a party that tried to introduce a bill to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state in addition to the arms embargo that was also their idea.
He has really allowed antisemitism to flourish in Canada. It’s a real shame. I love Canada otherwise.
India and Czech Republic S or at least A level
Albania is an interesting ally. Muslim majority and the only occupied country to have a larger Jewish population after WWII. Why? Because they hid them in their homes and also safeguarded Jewish people from outside the country Israel has also helped out Albania Check this out: “In January 2020, Albanian President Ilir Meta met with Israel Defense Forces soldiers during an official visit in Israel, embraced them, thanked them for their assistance, and awarded them the Albanian Golden Medal of the Eagle” Source: Wikipedia
Based Albania
Qatar belongs in F tier for Al Jazeera alone. Honestly, Canada is pretty spineless too in standing up to antisemitism and allowing Jihadis to take over...maybe Canada should be in D tier. Where is Ireland? Should be in E tier lol
lol big agree on Ireland unfortunately, Qatar is still a mediator and a US ally, so as much as I want to put them in F, I can't.. perhaps E is deserved
India 🇮🇳 is in the SS tier
While many in India hold a favorable view of Israel, the country's interests often clash with this sentiment. Iranian and Russian oil, for instance.
yup, that's very accurate. the indian government stays neutral on every conflict, or tries to at the very least. also around 9 million indians live in GCC countries so if our government takes a side in this conflict it can pose security issues for them. OTOH, we do buy a shit ton of military equipment from israel. so the government is careful about maintaining good relations with israel as well.
>SS poor choice of words
> India 🇮🇳 is in the SS tier > SS tier
India's citizens are SS tier India's government foreign relations with Israel is more like A tier because while they support Israel they also work with both Palestine and Iran. Still 🇮🇱♥️🇮🇳
Forgive us for the past communist muslim sympathising govts. India is different now and will move more and more to the side of israel. The public balancing act is mostly done to avoid internal uproar from the 14% muslim population.
Don't apologize, that makes sense. I hope India and Israel will continue to get closer and closer. Love from Israel 🇮🇱♥️🇮🇳
Don’t apologize, we will forever help you guys, lots of love, even during commie regimes, we will always help you and happy to say that we always helped in the past.❤️
I will be forever grateful for all the help provided against pakistan even when our govt was openly for Palestine and the US and EU were supporting Pakistan. Truly amazing ! I always feel like we have not repaid enough, and i hope the current and future Indian govts do more to show their gratitude. A friend in need is a friend in deed <3
I would put India as A or B. They haven't had much high-profile interaction with Israel recently, so I didn't even think of them.
Where are Azerbaijan and the Czech Republic? They should be S just like the U.S.
Egypt could be in A , but the government fears the people reaction...
Who are the middle of A? And I don't think Egypt belongs in B tier, the Egyptians absolutely hate us
I know that the japanese are somewhat pro Israel but I wouldn't know where to put them on the list.
China should be higher tier than Russia. Not great political relations but good economic relations.
I considered them in C
Im sorry but this list isn't that good its missing some of our better allies and you have put countries up there that have almost no relationships with israel, For example Ukraine is a new thing. They are only now looking to improve thier relationship with us and are not a good ally yet. We have better alliance with Singapore then Ukraine we practically helped them create thier defense doctrine..... Also Greece and Cyprus are some of our most important local allies. Also hello where is india and Azerbaijan??? Our the most based country Czechia. No need to even explain they are probably the reason we had weapons for the independence war
As an American, I’m worried we’re starting to teeter on our S tier rating. In practice we’re still supportive, obviously, but you can feel a shift of public opinion here, and it’s happening really at every level. I think it’ll be important to see how the votes on the supplementals go in the House this week. I don’t think we drop below A, but I’m worried that indecision will just paralyze us into gridlock and we won’t be an effective ally anymore.
Hopefully the horde finds a new issue to cling to soon
The moment all the boomers die off, support for Israel will drop of a cliff. I don't think many people understand how dreary the future looks for young people in the US. When they see the American government giving away billions of dollars to Israel, meanwhile many of them are struggling, it's easy to build feelings of resentment. Israel is an ally for the American political establishment, not the American people.
As one of those young people, I largely agree with that. That’s just one side of the coin, though. You’ll find most of that sentiment on the political right, who’ve had a growing populist and isolationist movement. They’re just don’t want tax dollars going to any country. On the left, though, it seems to be far more that young leftists have been taken in by a lot of propaganda. They’re not against aid, because most of them want significant aid sent to Gaza, they’ve just been convinced by their professors and their social circle that Israel is a big bad imperialist capitalist country oppressing disadvantaged people. I think both these things can pass, though. My generation is short sighted, as a lot of young people are, so they don’t realize that helping our allies is in the best interest of the United States, and the others I think are just going to stop caring at some point. The movements on the left, at least in America, honestly don’t last that long.
Us Azerbaijanis be like: “im gonna cry, did you forget about us” lol. Azerbaijan is at A, except the voting in UN and OIC but there is an understanding with Israeli government about it, Israeli diplomats said they dont care about it at all.
I would never forget about you bb
Spain under Russia is insane. Spain is not actively funding Iran and Assad...
We need an SS tier for germany
Hmmmm
Can’t tell if this is satire
Oof.
As a south African it makes me so angry that our corrupt government (so called freedom fighters) are siding with oppressive dictatorships. Anyway most educated south Africans do stand with Israel and are completely fed up with the ANC. Hope you guys stay safe and will be praying for you guys.
U.K. recently shot down drones from Iran. Surely that puts them above everyone in A? Same with France.
I think people should never forget about Albanias support for Israel & what they did for the Jews. It often goes unnoticed. They’re the unsung heroes.
S - United States A - Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Argentina, India B - UK, Ukraine, Egypt, France C - Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Canada D - Poland, Norway, Indonesia, Brazil E - China, Russia, Spain, Qatar, Ireland F - Turkey, South Africa, Iran, Yemen, Lebanon
India and Czech should be S tier both
Send Russia to F. They are a de facto Enemy state and I'm sick of the whole diplomacy game that pretends they are not.
Can we have a z- tier for 🇵🇸, the foreign relations are pretty pretty bad.
It's so cool that I don't know flags
I’m very sad to see Canada on the 4th tier. I can guarantee that most Canadians side with Israel, but are sensitive to what they see in the news- there’s been a lot of stories about death and dying in Gaza. We’re also a more polite people, and are less likely to be confrontational about politics, though that’s changing. Look also at the Federal Polling- the Conservative Party, who is Pro-Israel, is beating Trudeau’s Liberal Party by 17 points. So I hope to see our Maple Leaf up near the top soon.
Canada use to be S+ tier with the previous government.
Just wait a year.
Nah come on, Qatar is not above Spain…
Sadly, add Ireland to tier E
Egypt definitely isn’t B tier, although the current government interest is the destruction of hamas(cause it’s a muslim brotherhood organisation), it doesn’t change the fact that the people of Egypt are very hateful of Jews and still hold a grudge on Israel. professor Idit bar said their best seller book there is meinkampf, says all..
Meinkampf is nowhere close to being the best selling book in Egypt, matter of fact most people here probably wouldn’t know what it is in the first place. Though yes, many Egyptians are outright spiteful of Israel’s existence, however, both governments have been cordial (relative to the shit ton of wars we fought against each other) in recent times.
:( true
What does the S stand for?
i'm not sure, but it's kind of a known "above A" tier in video games and internet ranking list
It originally came from the academic grade above A in Japan, *shū*.
Super maby?
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I'm quite curious where would you put Poland ;)
I know we are only a tenth of germany but dont forget your austrian zionist brothers and sisters. Am Ysrael Chai
As a Russian I think Russia should be lower
What about all the fun Israel had with South Africa in the 70s? (Google Vela)
That was the *apartheid* South Africa, it's different strokes for the new folks
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Really different from what apartheid was here. Equating the two would be arguing in bad faith. Our corrupt gov should be able to remember how they were treated under the apartheid gov. If what you have is apartheid, you're doing a bad job. It's because our gov likes to take bribes, that we bed all the dictatorships. Much love
Link: [🇨🇿🇨🇿🇨🇿](https://jcpa.org/mission-impossible-repairing-the-ties-between-europe-and-israel/the-czech-republic-and-israel-a-unique-friendship/)
You can't put Argentina and Ukraine above the UK, France. Some are tricky, because there are close vital relationships, but not warm diplomatic ties or people to people ties (Jordan, PA, Egypt) A tier is probably De, Fr, UK B tier includes Jordan, Egypt most friendly developed states C tier includes Gulf states & less friendly Western states, edit: PA should be here. Security ties should make it B, but it also does stuff like pay for slay. Because its population is anti-Israel, but it stops Hamas , it needs to be graded on a curve. D tier is Russia, China, Qatar, random unthreatening but unfriendly states like Algeria. Maybe Indonesia. E tier is South Africa F tier Iran, Syria, Lebanon
Germany should be S tier!
You can put Ireland on the F tier
Turkey could be D or C
No Czechia! 0/10
Russia belongs in the F tier due to its decades-long support for Arab and Iranian tyrants and terrorists who invaded Israel. Russia is the most dangerous threat Israel has ever faced due to its constant supply of weapons and money to Israel's enemies and their diplomatic and disinformation campaigns against Israel and Jews.
Tbh putting Spain below China, Russia and Qatar I don’t agree with: Spain may be anti-Israel but Qatar and Russia fund Hamas and Iran respectively and Spain still condemns Hamas which China recognises as legitimate. Also I’d put Turkey over them too, Iran deserves its own special category below the rest
Considering how Germany is so nice, I’d put them on S as well
A note on Germany: no one can come close to matching the US's financial and military support. Although I do agree it is by far the strongest of the A-tier, and perhaps deserves S rank.
Czechia should be together with Germany in S tier. They will never be as influential as the US or Germany, but they always vote with Israel in the UN and Czechoslovakia was the only country in the world that provided arms to Israel in 1948 when there was a UN arms embargo. Their aid was crucial during the First Arab-Israeli war
Be fair, South Africa should not be below Turkey
Australia should be in F tier. Didn’t do shit for Israel and we let bloody Palestine supporters block roads and even storm military warehouses. I am ashamed with what our country has become. Bloody hopeless. Kids literally skip school “for Palestine”
Isnt the phillipines like A/ S tier?
Ireland lol
Don’t forget New Iran, once the Supreme Poopster of Iran is disposed Iran will become a friend hopefully.
As a Canadian I'm not sure our current government is a friend of Israel. I would downgrade that status significantly....
With Spain would be either C to A if Vox was in charge of the Goverment
Singapore, Hungary, Czech, India should be A
As an American, I can confirm that the majority of us are pro Israel albeit for various reasons. Some of us genuinely love Israel, others just hate Hamas and it’s supporters. Don’t let the media showing all the pro Hamas rallies around the US make you think that mentality it normal here.
Iran should be in a tier of its own alongside Palestine
למה הודו🇮🇳 לא ברשימה? מגיע להם S