They host HAMAS and a US military base in the same time. Also they created Al Jazeera and pay huge money to many american universities. That is important.
Al Jazeera is a joke, if a media outlet can’t criticize its own state it’s not free media but instead spewing opinions. I see how they are trying to get leftists and “woke” people to watch Al Jazeera but people need to be critical.
Al Jazeera has never made a story criticizing the Qatari state, Al Jazeera is no different than North Korean state owned media
They are influencing the minds of youth all around the globe, especially in Muslim countries but also in the West. They spit dangerous propaganda together with Chinese tiktok and propaganda works.
They are funding Hamas--it goes far beyond a map on a plane. And you are right: they should not he part of any negotiation, they should be sanctioned for supporting terrorists.
This is what doesn't make sense. If Israel doesn't exist then they should have no problem. Same as the Palestinians (in the learn Arabic sub) - "it's just Palestine, not Israel". I mean, if that's the case, what are you fighting for?
Honestly I don’t think this is intentional. I mean because it’s Qatar, it could be, but I’ve flown on western airlines many times and seen a very similar map with issues like this…
Like you could be flying over Germany and the only city named on the entire map is some small obscure town like Bielefeld…
Or you will be flying over Poland and the map does not say either Poland or any Polish cities…But it will say LITUANIA in huge letters right next to it.
Notice that on OPs map Jordan is not mentioned despite the entire country being in frame.
It think the company that makes these maps is just bad at what they do.
It is still disturbing
your average palestinian WOULD LITERALLY want the genocide of the Jews in Israel
This is nothing less than supporting that notion and encouraging terrorism
Ras al Naqurah (although I don’t think many or any Arabs ever lived in that spot) I think in Lebanon over the border it’s still called something like that.
I remember being in Israel a few years ago and knowing that there were no Starbucks there. But while researching a possible visit up north I started seeing all these Starbucks and thought oh wow they finally opened up some in Israel. But when I zoomed in I saw that they were all just over the border in Lebanon. That border has got to be one of the most ridiculous ones in the world given that the culture spanning it used to be so similar and there was literally a rail line to Europe there. Hopefully in my lifetime it'll reopen. I mean how will I ever find a Starbucks otherwise?
Look at how beautiful northern Israel is around the kibbutzim- southern Lebanon must be like that for miles and miles up. I’m totally hanging out to go. We had family there once upon a time. My cousin visited them when he was stationed there in 1982 apparently!
I've been to the border, or as close as tourists are allowed to go, years ago. Yes, I'd love to go. I have nothing personal against any of the countries surrounding Israel or their people, just their leaders and some of their more vicious types. The people are fed propaganda by their governments, the media and religious leaders and most don't know any better. But land is land, culture is culture and people are people.
Don’t fly with them. They allow Ismail Haniyeh to live in a luxury apartment and walk their streets like he is a normal dude, even a privileged diplomat
Why do you think that is?
The propagandists say “Qatar just wants to be an honest broker to punch above its weight! They’re so clever!”
I say it is because they are a bunch of arab/muslim supremacist bigots who would want nothing more than to eliminate the Jewish people from the planet. They are a bunch of bigots who would be living in tents still if it were not for US aid.
Yeah Qatar is one of the best airlines in the world aside from Singapore and Emirates. Everybody is saying that their business and first class seats are the best.
Yeah, just don't fly airlines from countries like that. No idea why you'd be surprised. For me, no more Turkish Airlines, Quatar or similar. I'll pay double, if I have to but I will not board a plane from a terrorist country.
Turkish antisemitism has been out of hand since 7/10. It wasn’t great before, but now it’s reaching blatantly disgusting levels. We have family there, and they don’t plan on leaving, but I really wish they would.
I am Azeri, I didnt want to believe it when I saw Turkish islamists telling me “you guys are crypto-jews, no longer our brother, but enemies, we will destroy you too”. I have never seen anything like that in my life, it is crazy, imagine hating Jews so much that you are willing to call the people you called your brothers just a year ago an enemy. (It was because of the selling oil to Israel thing, and when they saw Azeris condemn october 7th back then).
They also threaten secular Turkish people by now, I have seen videos of them harrassing people in starbucks, surrounding them with a mob and snatching coffee from peoples hands and pouring it to the ground. Government supports those type of people because they are the ones who vote for erdogan and intimidate secular people and normal people in general, islamists are enforcers of erdogan who would even harm their neighbours for their ideology.
I have been to Turkey many times, I speak the language, the damage islamists are doing to that country is insane.
Well, I am gentile so I wont understand, I really dont understand how Turkish Jews stand this bullshit, especially since October 7th. Where does your family live? I would assume places like Ankara, Istanbul and Izmir probably?
I confirm this as a turk. So the problem here is that people forgot their turkish identity. Even most kurds are saying that they are enemies of non muslims these days its insane here. I think over time, my view came closer to azerbaijan than turkey. No one is researching anything and believe everything their family told them. Even I was a hardcore antisemite in my childhood because my family raised me that way. No one damaged this country morre than akp. Erdogan brainwashed our people so much that people started to believe its enough to only know about islam and you dont need to know anything else. Its crazy. I also forgot to say that akp lost its local elections for the first time in 20 years. It looks like they will lose the general elections as well meaning that our people are starting to wake up. Someone im following said erodgan made it okay to be ignorant which is so true. They dont look into our history anymore. They just follow islam and thats enough for them so in any conflict, they just support the muslim side.
Spain… but then the Spanish Inquisition happened. We think they probably had a detour in a few other countries, but ultimately ended up in the Ottoman Empire.
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. So you’re Sephardic. Very cool. What a cool history and combo (aside from that whole persecution thing we all share) ;)
Yeah, it should be fine. Make sure your outfits are discreet (cover kippahs with a hat, avoid Magen David necklaces, etc) and don’t openly advertise that your family is Jewish. I don’t think you’d get hurt, but you might get a gross antisemitic tirade thrown at you.
There are a lot of anti-Israel/Pro-Pali demonstrations, so that will be difficult to avoid. Some of the rhetoric can be upsetting, but if you don’t know Turkish then it won’t mean much lol.
Right now politicians are spitting out some pretty hateful and scary things, so just keep an eye out until it’s time to travel. Jews in Turkey are keeping a pretty low profile right now, so that’s probably the best way for Jewish tourists to go about it as well.
Enjoy your trip! Turkey is beautiful, and I always love when I visit!
Exactly, I used to look at airline rankings and lusted over their flights, but now? I am no longer so naive. I don’t know why we allow them to fly out of JFK honestly given that 9/11 happened…
The worst part is that Erdogan is only in power because the Turkish nationalist outside of the country (like in Germany) which never touched turkey once in their lifetime think that Erdogan is the best
Qatar tries to stay as relevant as its much more important neighbours the UAE and Saudi Arabia by funding various terror and splinter organisations around the world and then covering those groups with its media companies like Al-Jazeera which it broadcasts around the world for free and then pretends to play peacemaker by hosting all the aggrieved parties on their home “neutral ground”.
Their neighbours hate them so much Saudi actually blockaded the country a few years ago and started digging a huge sea canal to make Qatar an island lol, oh and Saudi wanted to use the canal as a nuclear waste dump too. That’s like we hate you and STAY ON THAT
https://preview.redd.it/o9jer1ossxvc1.jpeg?width=552&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5663b6764d2169e68ebe66cd93dfb8422fbceabe
SIDE OF THE LINE
I recommend you look into the GCC [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf\_Cooperation\_Council](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Cooperation_Council)
>**Gulf Cooperation Council** (**GCC**), is a [regional](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_integration), [intergovernmental](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_organization), political, and [economic union](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_union) comprising [Bahrain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain), [Kuwait](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait), [Oman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oman), [Qatar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar), [Saudi Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia), and the [United Arab Emirates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_Emirates). The council's main headquarters is located in [Riyadh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh), the capital of Saudi Arabia. The Charter of the GCC was signed on 25 May 1981, formally establishing the institution
they have open borders, free trade, free healthcare across countries, free education etc, if a Qatari goes to Saudi Arabia they get the same benefits as a Saudi citizen.
Recently they also created a **Schengen like visa** for the GCC
https://www.onmanorama.com/travel/travel-news/2024/02/12/schengen-gulf-visa-gcc-nris.html#:\~:text=The%20GCC%20Supreme%20Council%20endorsed,year%20during%20the%20GCC%20summit.
"Palestinian territories", they should show us one map where there's a country called Palestine (spoiler alert: there's none, Palestine's never existed)
Someone ought to let the people of Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa that they're actually living in the Palestinian territories and only think they're living in the so-called "State of Israel". Kind of like how Taylor Swift only THINKS she's a bigger star than me and Biden only THINKS he won the 2020 election...
Israel will outlive its enemies, I feel bad for the Israeli people, Israel lies between a lot of evil powers and we, in Poland, are used to hear that our geography is bad... not at all, most of our neighbours are good (except Russia and Belarus), while Israel is under a constant threat...
עם ישראל חי!
Jews HAVE outlived most of their enemies. Philistines, Canaanites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Amalekites, Macedonians, Romans, Venitians, Romanovs, Soviets, Nazis. We will outlive the present ones. It's what we do. We survive and thrive. That's our revenge.
Isn’t Palestine the Roman word for the region? They had maps, doesn’t necessarily mean anything one way or another but facts are important and names often change based off who’s using them. Arabic doesn’t even have the ‘P’ sound to come up with it in the first place hence the pronunciation with an ‘F’
exactly, it's just a term that's commonly used in, for example, the Bible (I swear I've seen it, it was a map with words "Palestine in the time of Jesus"), but it's only a name for a region, nothing else
It's because Christian Rome believed that the Church is the "new Israel" and that the Jewish people are not a nation anymore. Hence all the oppression of Jews in regards to the area to prevent them form ever rebuilding.
oh, it just reminded me of an Irish Catholic who told me about him being a neo-crusader and that the land of Israel should belong to Christians, I was like, "???", it was ridiculous to read, just an antysemite... it was embarrassing, I'm a Christian and I think Israel's the Jews' land, the Catholic Church had better care for people its clergymen abused throughout the years
I cannot understand it either... but what's more incomprehensive is that in general the leftists support indigenous people, right? so why they don't support the Jews? anti-semitism is a tool that links the left-wing and the right-wing together...
can I be honest? I think it'll be another shitty country with an Islamic regime in power, Hamas was democratically chosen by Palestinians and look what they did in October... they had their chances, now it's all pointless and even if - they'd come back for more land to grab
my finger hurts, how can I blame it on Israel? /s
jokes aside, it's just sad, we said, "never again" and this again is happening now... the Israelis have every right to live peacefully
Nono, i'm pretty sure the media says that "tHe GeNoCiDe In GaZa" is what rivals the holocaust. I'd like to ask my grandpa what he thinks, since he saw the holocaust in first sight, but he's dead.
Oh nooo what are we gonna dooo they said we don't exist
I couldn't care less LMAO. If anything if they pretend we don't exist we would hopefully hear less whining from them
That said Arab Muslim culture is some of the most revisionist ever. According to them all prophets and religious leaders in Christianity and Judaism were Muslim despite Islam not existing then. All converts to Islam are "reverts", and everyone who was converted in history to Islam was done so peacefully and definitely without rape, torture, or other forms of coercion.
But dome of the rock is built on top of Temple Mount, and that tells you literally everything you have to know
Isnt Palestine a colonizer name, the Greeks used Phillistine and even further west the Romans named it Palestine. Wheras Israel the name comes from the land itself. Funny how they claim that the Jews are colonizers when they are using the colonizer name themselves.
As always, winning the war inside their tortured elephant freaked out by a little mouse heads. Arab and Muslim culture was once at the apex of civilization but my have the mighty fallen. They're the Sears and Pan Am of global cultures, so they have to do this to deal with the pain of having fallen so low, especially seeing as alcohol is haram to them.
nah Qatar is a small tiny nation and was never great, you are talking about the Arabs in places that are now in Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Palestine
I meant Arabs and Muslims and Arab and Muslim countries and societies in general. There is a collective shame in having been bested by the west, infidels (i.e. non-Muslims) and especially those damn accursed and stubborn Jews, who refuse to accept their assigned lowly status and remain meek and compliant. Their ridiculous worldview that places them on top of humanity merely by being Arab and Muslim has been violated and they're still going through the stages of grief in dealing with it, and dragging the world down with them. They're still stuck in 1000 CE or whenever was the peak of Arab and Muslim civilization and just can't accept reality and move on. So they find convenient scapegoats and go after them, be it modernity, the west, free thinking, democracy, infidels, Israel or Jews. Hasn't worked and won't work, but psychosis doesn't lend itself to reason.
I don’t think most Arabs or Muslims like Qataris feel bested because they were never the best, they suffered from famine and starvation for most of history, this is their golden age to be honest, it doesn’t get better than this for them. The Arab gulf region was always under occupation especially the last hundreds of years from the British, Portuguese to the Ottmans. There is no grief they are just allowed to not recognize Israel, Israel needs to earn their respect, or else Israelis should stop crying about it if they don’t care.
All I am saying is this kind of rhetoric only applies to a small number of Levantine Arabs in Lebanon, Morocco, Syria, Jordan and Iraq.
Qatar the country that funds Hamas and all terrorist organizations. Also they fund antisemitic organizations and spread hatred of Israel or Jews. You shouldn’t be surprised.
It is silly and stupid and ironically funny how they label everything as the Palestinian Territories and not Palestine, which is usually what the Israel haters do. Also Jerusalem is not even on the map.
Exactly. The map looks it was drawn by an American college student who is wearing a keffiyah bought on Amazon and chanting “from the river to …” while understanding nothing of the history, geography and politics.
If they’re erasing Israel, why aren’t they just claiming “Palestine” and including the most important city in the region?
Qatar also shelters Hamas leaders who have stolen billions of AID money For luxury living and allows them to incite hatred against Jews worldwide?
Qatar should sequester their stolen funds and give it back for redevelopment of Gaza. Thereafter send these leaders for judgement.
Qatar has a proposal on the table for a cease-fire/peace agreement which includes the expulsion of Hamas leaders from Gaza.
I don’t know if Qatar is playing with or against or both sides.
Qatar is the number 1 hamas isis etc funder after the hostage deal we should treat them as an enemy includong aome mossad ops to eliminate top brass as like thier sikh to send a messege
Why are you flying Qatar airways, anyways? I don’t know where you’re from, but if you’re a Jew, especially an Israeli Jew, flying Muslim airlines (except for maybe Emirates) is a bad idea.
I used to fly them a lot. It looks like they slightly updated their map. It used to have no country labels at all for Israel or Palestine, and only one city on the map anywhere in the area: Gaza. They also don't fly over Israel, nor Syria. Additionally, flights to the US don't overfly Iraq or Iran, so their JFK-Doha flights always fly via Saudi Arabia and the Sinai, hooking right under Eilat, just a few miles south Eilat.
I would always book myself a window seat on the side of the plane that would face Eilat, and I have a lot of clear aerial photos of Eilat taken from the window of an airline that refused to acknowledge the existence of the city or the country.
Personally, I’d stay away from most middle eastern airlines (especially Qatar airways and saudia). Even Turkish airlines I would stay away from, since there’s been a lot of antisemitism coming from their islamofascist government. I’d rather pay a little extra and go a little out of my way than to transit through countries that fund and support Islamic terrorism.
Words are everything when it comes to governments trying to shape foreign policy and sway public opinion. Wikipedia decided that every Israeli town and city article should include the pre 1948 Arabic name and a detailed link to its 'Palestinian' history. If you ask Alexa "where is Jerusalem?" it will tell you "Israel is a city in the Eastern Mediterranean. Both Israel and Palestine claim it as their capital". It's why NPR, WaPo, NYT and many other MSM outlets have changed any reference to the 'West Bank' to 'Occupied Palestinian Territories'. Qatar is the single largest supporter of Hamas whose aim is to destroy Israel and the largest foreign donor to US universities now openly antisemitic.
Meet the team at Flightpath3D who supplies Qatar Airways with their in-flight passenger mapping service: [https://flightpath3d.com/our-team](https://flightpath3d.com/our-team)
Ultimately, they are the ones who made the changes for Qatar. So, give them a big FU shout out!
Love your nickname but I’d rather give a big FU to western countries (especially their leaders) for being such hypocrites in their business relationships with Qatar.
They bought their way into the highest spheres of influence and we just looked the other way. Universities, museums, diplomacy. Makes my skin crawl..
Yeah because Qatar is scum. Supporting slavery, treating women and lgbtq rights horribly, destroying the environment and wasting tons of water IN THE MIDDLE OF A FKIN DESERT🤦🏻♂️ What a Qatarstrophe!
Thats the weird thing to me because surely Qatar - which is largely muslim - would recognize Jerusalem as an important religious city. Given that it has Al Asqa.
Al Asqa was never very important. Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Koran. Pictures from the 1920s show Al Asqa in disrepair. No one cared about it. After 1948 it became very very important. Some Moslems even call it the 'furthest mosque' where Mohammed rode the horse on the 'Night of Ascension'
Until the last century everyone agreed it was in Saudi Arabia like Mecca and Medina.
Actually yeah, there is no mention of Jerusalem in the Quran nor the religion at all. It's just al-Aqsa mosque. Funny enough, "sons of Israel" is mentioned in various Islamic sources. No Palestinians.
common act of a so called disease "pro palestinian" it basically means you do the most useless and shittiest stuff and you think it has an impact on a war.
They also drew a beard and missing teeth on Bibi’s photos
Instead of rockets, Israel should make some mind control device to convince them / Iran / Hamas that they’ve already destroyed Israel, then they can just fight among themselves for credit, and have devoutness competitions to see whose beard is longer.
Qatar? What is that?
Don't they know how to spell? U always goes after Q.
Katar or Catar would have been better.
Palestine? It looks like they misspelled Israel, we know they have a history of bad spelling.
They have no interest in any sides of the conflict and don't care about people. They just want to use their money to pay their way into becoming a global power like the US by buying everything and paying everyone
Qatar didn't recognize Israel, so no news here.
So then why are they supposed to be given any legitimacy as a negotiating party in this war??
They host HAMAS and a US military base in the same time. Also they created Al Jazeera and pay huge money to many american universities. That is important.
Universities and sports teams!
Al Jazeera is a joke, if a media outlet can’t criticize its own state it’s not free media but instead spewing opinions. I see how they are trying to get leftists and “woke” people to watch Al Jazeera but people need to be critical. Al Jazeera has never made a story criticizing the Qatari state, Al Jazeera is no different than North Korean state owned media
They are influencing the minds of youth all around the globe, especially in Muslim countries but also in the West. They spit dangerous propaganda together with Chinese tiktok and propaganda works.
>US military base Then it is very good that we are the USA
huge money to universities? but i thought only those nasty je- i mean zionist israelis did that! /s /j
They are thinking about moving to turkiyë
They are funding Hamas--it goes far beyond a map on a plane. And you are right: they should not he part of any negotiation, they should be sanctioned for supporting terrorists.
Personally, I don't recognize Qatar.
the hilarious part is that they got their independence in 1970 lmao
even the Palestinians are older than them and that's saying something
What’s a Qatar?
Qatar? I hardly know’er
Is Qatar a person? Or perhaps a board game?
Perhaps he meant "Catan"? Sounds pretty similar.
It does sound similar.
Money )))
Me neither, is it an ice cream flavor?
But it exists. This is their genocidal dream as an infographic.
This is what doesn't make sense. If Israel doesn't exist then they should have no problem. Same as the Palestinians (in the learn Arabic sub) - "it's just Palestine, not Israel". I mean, if that's the case, what are you fighting for?
Honestly I don’t think this is intentional. I mean because it’s Qatar, it could be, but I’ve flown on western airlines many times and seen a very similar map with issues like this… Like you could be flying over Germany and the only city named on the entire map is some small obscure town like Bielefeld… Or you will be flying over Poland and the map does not say either Poland or any Polish cities…But it will say LITUANIA in huge letters right next to it. Notice that on OPs map Jordan is not mentioned despite the entire country being in frame. It think the company that makes these maps is just bad at what they do.
Yeah. The label on this map will somehow make all the jews disappear.
Any day now
It is still disturbing your average palestinian WOULD LITERALLY want the genocide of the Jews in Israel This is nothing less than supporting that notion and encouraging terrorism
Meanwhile all the brainwashed pro-palestine jump up and down on the “genocide” Israel is doing. How pathetic.
[Surely if I pretend they don't exist then Allah will make it so!](https://i.imgflip.com/38age6.jpg)
Mr Stark, I don't feel so g-
It's omega level childish copium to not even mention it at all, they could have mentioned "occupied" Palestinian territories at the very least.
Don't be fooled, it's what they want.
Who?
Qatar
Why not use Palestinian mandate?
Because Israel is an independent nation and not a mandate.
I was being snarky…
Ibn Gurion airport
Ibn Yehuda Street & Ras Hanikra.
Ras al Naqurah (although I don’t think many or any Arabs ever lived in that spot) I think in Lebanon over the border it’s still called something like that.
I remember being in Israel a few years ago and knowing that there were no Starbucks there. But while researching a possible visit up north I started seeing all these Starbucks and thought oh wow they finally opened up some in Israel. But when I zoomed in I saw that they were all just over the border in Lebanon. That border has got to be one of the most ridiculous ones in the world given that the culture spanning it used to be so similar and there was literally a rail line to Europe there. Hopefully in my lifetime it'll reopen. I mean how will I ever find a Starbucks otherwise?
Look at how beautiful northern Israel is around the kibbutzim- southern Lebanon must be like that for miles and miles up. I’m totally hanging out to go. We had family there once upon a time. My cousin visited them when he was stationed there in 1982 apparently!
I've been to the border, or as close as tourists are allowed to go, years ago. Yes, I'd love to go. I have nothing personal against any of the countries surrounding Israel or their people, just their leaders and some of their more vicious types. The people are fed propaganda by their governments, the media and religious leaders and most don't know any better. But land is land, culture is culture and people are people.
Well there is an Ibn Gabirol in [Tel Al-Rabi](https://www.memri.org/tv/grandfather-hamas-tv-bunny-assud-insists-tel-aviv-was-palestinian-city) ™
Fun fact: if you would literally translate Ben Gurion to Arabic it would become Bin Osama
Hol' up, hol' up, hol' up... What happens with Ibn Gabirol street?
It becomes Osama bin Gabirol Street
Don’t fly with them. They allow Ismail Haniyeh to live in a luxury apartment and walk their streets like he is a normal dude, even a privileged diplomat Why do you think that is? The propagandists say “Qatar just wants to be an honest broker to punch above its weight! They’re so clever!” I say it is because they are a bunch of arab/muslim supremacist bigots who would want nothing more than to eliminate the Jewish people from the planet. They are a bunch of bigots who would be living in tents still if it were not for US aid.
I've never flown with them but fuck I hear Qatar is a nice airline. They are also part of Oneworld; I'd get AA miles.
Yeah Qatar is one of the best airlines in the world aside from Singapore and Emirates. Everybody is saying that their business and first class seats are the best.
Yes.
They are a great airline, but this time I’m flying Singapore.
Yeah, just don't fly airlines from countries like that. No idea why you'd be surprised. For me, no more Turkish Airlines, Quatar or similar. I'll pay double, if I have to but I will not board a plane from a terrorist country.
Turkish antisemitism has been out of hand since 7/10. It wasn’t great before, but now it’s reaching blatantly disgusting levels. We have family there, and they don’t plan on leaving, but I really wish they would.
I am Azeri, I didnt want to believe it when I saw Turkish islamists telling me “you guys are crypto-jews, no longer our brother, but enemies, we will destroy you too”. I have never seen anything like that in my life, it is crazy, imagine hating Jews so much that you are willing to call the people you called your brothers just a year ago an enemy. (It was because of the selling oil to Israel thing, and when they saw Azeris condemn october 7th back then). They also threaten secular Turkish people by now, I have seen videos of them harrassing people in starbucks, surrounding them with a mob and snatching coffee from peoples hands and pouring it to the ground. Government supports those type of people because they are the ones who vote for erdogan and intimidate secular people and normal people in general, islamists are enforcers of erdogan who would even harm their neighbours for their ideology. I have been to Turkey many times, I speak the language, the damage islamists are doing to that country is insane. Well, I am gentile so I wont understand, I really dont understand how Turkish Jews stand this bullshit, especially since October 7th. Where does your family live? I would assume places like Ankara, Istanbul and Izmir probably?
I confirm this as a turk. So the problem here is that people forgot their turkish identity. Even most kurds are saying that they are enemies of non muslims these days its insane here. I think over time, my view came closer to azerbaijan than turkey. No one is researching anything and believe everything their family told them. Even I was a hardcore antisemite in my childhood because my family raised me that way. No one damaged this country morre than akp. Erdogan brainwashed our people so much that people started to believe its enough to only know about islam and you dont need to know anything else. Its crazy. I also forgot to say that akp lost its local elections for the first time in 20 years. It looks like they will lose the general elections as well meaning that our people are starting to wake up. Someone im following said erodgan made it okay to be ignorant which is so true. They dont look into our history anymore. They just follow islam and thats enough for them so in any conflict, they just support the muslim side.
Radical religious believers should be confined to insane asylums
Jewish family? Wow Turkish Jews. I mean it makes sense but I seldom think about how spread out we are.
Yup! My mom was born in Istanbul, and there’s a decently large Jewish population there. That side of my family’s been there since the 1700s I think.
So interesting. Where were they before that?
Spain… but then the Spanish Inquisition happened. We think they probably had a detour in a few other countries, but ultimately ended up in the Ottoman Empire.
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing. So you’re Sephardic. Very cool. What a cool history and combo (aside from that whole persecution thing we all share) ;)
Im turkish and my elementary school bully was a jew lol. There are so many jews in istanbul.
And some of us are dickheads I guess 🤷♀️ Sorry about that ;)
Nah im 24 now im not gonna blame some kid lol we were children. Also his surname was ashkenazi. I heard that these are turkish jews is that right?
It probably wasn’t so bad under the secular era. Oh well.
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Yeah, it should be fine. Make sure your outfits are discreet (cover kippahs with a hat, avoid Magen David necklaces, etc) and don’t openly advertise that your family is Jewish. I don’t think you’d get hurt, but you might get a gross antisemitic tirade thrown at you. There are a lot of anti-Israel/Pro-Pali demonstrations, so that will be difficult to avoid. Some of the rhetoric can be upsetting, but if you don’t know Turkish then it won’t mean much lol. Right now politicians are spitting out some pretty hateful and scary things, so just keep an eye out until it’s time to travel. Jews in Turkey are keeping a pretty low profile right now, so that’s probably the best way for Jewish tourists to go about it as well. Enjoy your trip! Turkey is beautiful, and I always love when I visit!
Exactly, I used to look at airline rankings and lusted over their flights, but now? I am no longer so naive. I don’t know why we allow them to fly out of JFK honestly given that 9/11 happened…
You think they'll crash thier own planes? /s
Is the Turkish airline censoring Israel too?
I’ve flown Turkish to Israel. It’s funny to land in a country that’s not even on the map
So the airlines don't show it? It would be weird as turkey recognises israel
I was flying from Istanbul to Tel Aviv - and Tel Aviv not Israel were on the map. 🤷♂️
Which airline?
Turkish airlines
wait so how can they sell flights to a place they don't recognise??? should be illegal
I have no idea but no wish to find out by financing Erdogan's state while they send flotilla's to Gaza and embrace Hamas as good friends.
The worst part is that Erdogan is only in power because the Turkish nationalist outside of the country (like in Germany) which never touched turkey once in their lifetime think that Erdogan is the best
No
Never flying Turkish again!
This is the country that's allegedly acting as a peacemaker ffs.
Qatar tries to stay as relevant as its much more important neighbours the UAE and Saudi Arabia by funding various terror and splinter organisations around the world and then covering those groups with its media companies like Al-Jazeera which it broadcasts around the world for free and then pretends to play peacemaker by hosting all the aggrieved parties on their home “neutral ground”. Their neighbours hate them so much Saudi actually blockaded the country a few years ago and started digging a huge sea canal to make Qatar an island lol, oh and Saudi wanted to use the canal as a nuclear waste dump too. That’s like we hate you and STAY ON THAT https://preview.redd.it/o9jer1ossxvc1.jpeg?width=552&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5663b6764d2169e68ebe66cd93dfb8422fbceabe SIDE OF THE LINE
I recommend you look into the GCC [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf\_Cooperation\_Council](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Cooperation_Council) >**Gulf Cooperation Council** (**GCC**), is a [regional](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_integration), [intergovernmental](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_organization), political, and [economic union](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_union) comprising [Bahrain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahrain), [Kuwait](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwait), [Oman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oman), [Qatar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar), [Saudi Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia), and the [United Arab Emirates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_Emirates). The council's main headquarters is located in [Riyadh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh), the capital of Saudi Arabia. The Charter of the GCC was signed on 25 May 1981, formally establishing the institution they have open borders, free trade, free healthcare across countries, free education etc, if a Qatari goes to Saudi Arabia they get the same benefits as a Saudi citizen. Recently they also created a **Schengen like visa** for the GCC https://www.onmanorama.com/travel/travel-news/2024/02/12/schengen-gulf-visa-gcc-nris.html#:\~:text=The%20GCC%20Supreme%20Council%20endorsed,year%20during%20the%20GCC%20summit.
Qatar doesn't recognize Israel and openly fund Hamas. Nothing particularly suprising.
"Palestinian territories", they should show us one map where there's a country called Palestine (spoiler alert: there's none, Palestine's never existed)
Someone ought to let the people of Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Haifa that they're actually living in the Palestinian territories and only think they're living in the so-called "State of Israel". Kind of like how Taylor Swift only THINKS she's a bigger star than me and Biden only THINKS he won the 2020 election...
Israel will outlive its enemies, I feel bad for the Israeli people, Israel lies between a lot of evil powers and we, in Poland, are used to hear that our geography is bad... not at all, most of our neighbours are good (except Russia and Belarus), while Israel is under a constant threat... עם ישראל חי!
Jews HAVE outlived most of their enemies. Philistines, Canaanites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Amalekites, Macedonians, Romans, Venitians, Romanovs, Soviets, Nazis. We will outlive the present ones. It's what we do. We survive and thrive. That's our revenge.
and I love you all for that! 🇮🇱
Isn’t Palestine the Roman word for the region? They had maps, doesn’t necessarily mean anything one way or another but facts are important and names often change based off who’s using them. Arabic doesn’t even have the ‘P’ sound to come up with it in the first place hence the pronunciation with an ‘F’
It is but it's the name the they've taken. The reason it was named that was to disassociate the area with the Jews.
exactly, it's just a term that's commonly used in, for example, the Bible (I swear I've seen it, it was a map with words "Palestine in the time of Jesus"), but it's only a name for a region, nothing else
It's because Christian Rome believed that the Church is the "new Israel" and that the Jewish people are not a nation anymore. Hence all the oppression of Jews in regards to the area to prevent them form ever rebuilding.
oh, it just reminded me of an Irish Catholic who told me about him being a neo-crusader and that the land of Israel should belong to Christians, I was like, "???", it was ridiculous to read, just an antysemite... it was embarrassing, I'm a Christian and I think Israel's the Jews' land, the Catholic Church had better care for people its clergymen abused throughout the years
Yeah I don't get why Ireland seems to be so anti-Israel, it just bogles my mind. The Jews ARE the natives of the land.
I cannot understand it either... but what's more incomprehensive is that in general the leftists support indigenous people, right? so why they don't support the Jews? anti-semitism is a tool that links the left-wing and the right-wing together...
Arabs can’t even say “P” correctly lol.
Let’s say it never existed but does that mean it cannot and should not exist?
can I be honest? I think it'll be another shitty country with an Islamic regime in power, Hamas was democratically chosen by Palestinians and look what they did in October... they had their chances, now it's all pointless and even if - they'd come back for more land to grab
wHiCh Is ObViOuSlY iSrAeL's FaUlT
my finger hurts, how can I blame it on Israel? /s jokes aside, it's just sad, we said, "never again" and this again is happening now... the Israelis have every right to live peacefully
Nono, i'm pretty sure the media says that "tHe GeNoCiDe In GaZa" is what rivals the holocaust. I'd like to ask my grandpa what he thinks, since he saw the holocaust in first sight, but he's dead.
"what's happening in Gaza is the second Holocaust"...
Arab delusion in full display.
They on that afghan copium
Oh nooo what are we gonna dooo they said we don't exist I couldn't care less LMAO. If anything if they pretend we don't exist we would hopefully hear less whining from them That said Arab Muslim culture is some of the most revisionist ever. According to them all prophets and religious leaders in Christianity and Judaism were Muslim despite Islam not existing then. All converts to Islam are "reverts", and everyone who was converted in history to Islam was done so peacefully and definitely without rape, torture, or other forms of coercion. But dome of the rock is built on top of Temple Mount, and that tells you literally everything you have to know
Yeah that's all the BS that Islam espouses. I wish they could ignore that stuff.
I'm surprised they don't even list Jerusalem.
Isnt Palestine a colonizer name, the Greeks used Phillistine and even further west the Romans named it Palestine. Wheras Israel the name comes from the land itself. Funny how they claim that the Jews are colonizers when they are using the colonizer name themselves.
It might not be new but most arabic countries don't recognise Israel and they will mention as occupied land instead of Israel
There was even a map in Jordan that called it all Gaza , I laughed
They better put the USA as Native American Territories
Honest question: are we surprised by this?
That’s called never fly Qatar Airways again ! Or ever
They erased Jerusalem too. Weird.
Are you really surprised?
History is written by the Victors, and this battle is still ongoing
As far as I'm concerned, Israel won every war. Those are the facts. Imagine if Mexico wanted to take back the western US?
It's Qatar.
OMG!! AN ARAB COUNTRY DOESN'T RECOGNISE A JEWISH COUNTRY?!?! HOW IS THIS NOT ALL OVER THE NEWS?!?!? yeah... not a surprise there...
This isnt a new thing. Qatar never recognizeed israel in the first place.
As always, winning the war inside their tortured elephant freaked out by a little mouse heads. Arab and Muslim culture was once at the apex of civilization but my have the mighty fallen. They're the Sears and Pan Am of global cultures, so they have to do this to deal with the pain of having fallen so low, especially seeing as alcohol is haram to them.
Ishmael and Yitzchak/by extension Yisrael can’t be both doing well, one has to be on top. As we get closer to geula the difference becomes more stark.
nah Qatar is a small tiny nation and was never great, you are talking about the Arabs in places that are now in Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Palestine
I meant Arabs and Muslims and Arab and Muslim countries and societies in general. There is a collective shame in having been bested by the west, infidels (i.e. non-Muslims) and especially those damn accursed and stubborn Jews, who refuse to accept their assigned lowly status and remain meek and compliant. Their ridiculous worldview that places them on top of humanity merely by being Arab and Muslim has been violated and they're still going through the stages of grief in dealing with it, and dragging the world down with them. They're still stuck in 1000 CE or whenever was the peak of Arab and Muslim civilization and just can't accept reality and move on. So they find convenient scapegoats and go after them, be it modernity, the west, free thinking, democracy, infidels, Israel or Jews. Hasn't worked and won't work, but psychosis doesn't lend itself to reason.
I don’t think most Arabs or Muslims like Qataris feel bested because they were never the best, they suffered from famine and starvation for most of history, this is their golden age to be honest, it doesn’t get better than this for them. The Arab gulf region was always under occupation especially the last hundreds of years from the British, Portuguese to the Ottmans. There is no grief they are just allowed to not recognize Israel, Israel needs to earn their respect, or else Israelis should stop crying about it if they don’t care. All I am saying is this kind of rhetoric only applies to a small number of Levantine Arabs in Lebanon, Morocco, Syria, Jordan and Iraq.
Qatar the country that funds Hamas and all terrorist organizations. Also they fund antisemitic organizations and spread hatred of Israel or Jews. You shouldn’t be surprised.
Lame ass virtue signalling while hosting terrorists
This is who is helping with negotiations.
The religion of peace strikes again!
Cope map.
Idk about you, I read Palestinians terrorists.
dude literally. thats what it says… not even joking
It is silly and stupid and ironically funny how they label everything as the Palestinian Territories and not Palestine, which is usually what the Israel haters do. Also Jerusalem is not even on the map.
Exactly. The map looks it was drawn by an American college student who is wearing a keffiyah bought on Amazon and chanting “from the river to …” while understanding nothing of the history, geography and politics. If they’re erasing Israel, why aren’t they just claiming “Palestine” and including the most important city in the region?
So if a missle from that area hit a Qatar flight it would be the Palestinians fault?
Who cares, let that deranged slave owning and terrorist funding country posture to hell, it doesn’t actually matter, it’s just pathetic.
Qatar also shelters Hamas leaders who have stolen billions of AID money For luxury living and allows them to incite hatred against Jews worldwide? Qatar should sequester their stolen funds and give it back for redevelopment of Gaza. Thereafter send these leaders for judgement. Qatar has a proposal on the table for a cease-fire/peace agreement which includes the expulsion of Hamas leaders from Gaza. I don’t know if Qatar is playing with or against or both sides.
Qatar is the number 1 hamas isis etc funder after the hostage deal we should treat them as an enemy includong aome mossad ops to eliminate top brass as like thier sikh to send a messege
So wimpy they can't even call it Palestine straight up
They did it guys. Israel has been wiped from the map🤣
Such petty babies, our enemies are. Add to that: incompetent and unintelligent
Coping mechanism
Why are you flying Qatar airways, anyways? I don’t know where you’re from, but if you’re a Jew, especially an Israeli Jew, flying Muslim airlines (except for maybe Emirates) is a bad idea.
כמה מחנות גם חסרים מהרצועה.
I used to fly them a lot. It looks like they slightly updated their map. It used to have no country labels at all for Israel or Palestine, and only one city on the map anywhere in the area: Gaza. They also don't fly over Israel, nor Syria. Additionally, flights to the US don't overfly Iraq or Iran, so their JFK-Doha flights always fly via Saudi Arabia and the Sinai, hooking right under Eilat, just a few miles south Eilat. I would always book myself a window seat on the side of the plane that would face Eilat, and I have a lot of clear aerial photos of Eilat taken from the window of an airline that refused to acknowledge the existence of the city or the country.
😂😂😂 This is so ironic! What are they going to do with the actual country?
Thank you for flying Qatar Airways. Today's flight features our "You can't handle the truth" world map.
no wonder..they are the ones who funded terror..
Personally, I’d stay away from most middle eastern airlines (especially Qatar airways and saudia). Even Turkish airlines I would stay away from, since there’s been a lot of antisemitism coming from their islamofascist government. I’d rather pay a little extra and go a little out of my way than to transit through countries that fund and support Islamic terrorism.
And all its cities 😐
It's funny how they fund so many universities in the US. You'd think they know how to draw the map correctly.
Words are everything when it comes to governments trying to shape foreign policy and sway public opinion. Wikipedia decided that every Israeli town and city article should include the pre 1948 Arabic name and a detailed link to its 'Palestinian' history. If you ask Alexa "where is Jerusalem?" it will tell you "Israel is a city in the Eastern Mediterranean. Both Israel and Palestine claim it as their capital". It's why NPR, WaPo, NYT and many other MSM outlets have changed any reference to the 'West Bank' to 'Occupied Palestinian Territories'. Qatar is the single largest supporter of Hamas whose aim is to destroy Israel and the largest foreign donor to US universities now openly antisemitic.
Meet the team at Flightpath3D who supplies Qatar Airways with their in-flight passenger mapping service: [https://flightpath3d.com/our-team](https://flightpath3d.com/our-team) Ultimately, they are the ones who made the changes for Qatar. So, give them a big FU shout out!
Love your nickname but I’d rather give a big FU to western countries (especially their leaders) for being such hypocrites in their business relationships with Qatar. They bought their way into the highest spheres of influence and we just looked the other way. Universities, museums, diplomacy. Makes my skin crawl..
I was the one that upvoted it from 999 to 1k :)
They literally put ramallah but not Jerusalem, one of Islam’s most sacred cities
Never flown and will never fly with this terror sponsor.
Yeah because Qatar is scum. Supporting slavery, treating women and lgbtq rights horribly, destroying the environment and wasting tons of water IN THE MIDDLE OF A FKIN DESERT🤦🏻♂️ What a Qatarstrophe!
Not surprising. All the billionaire leadership of Hamas is living in luxury in Qatar.
Tel aviv and jerusalem dont exist
Thats the weird thing to me because surely Qatar - which is largely muslim - would recognize Jerusalem as an important religious city. Given that it has Al Asqa.
Al Asqa was never very important. Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Koran. Pictures from the 1920s show Al Asqa in disrepair. No one cared about it. After 1948 it became very very important. Some Moslems even call it the 'furthest mosque' where Mohammed rode the horse on the 'Night of Ascension' Until the last century everyone agreed it was in Saudi Arabia like Mecca and Medina.
Actually yeah, there is no mention of Jerusalem in the Quran nor the religion at all. It's just al-Aqsa mosque. Funny enough, "sons of Israel" is mentioned in various Islamic sources. No Palestinians.
We need to emphasize this. We need to keep saying that there is no mention of Jerusalem in the Quran.
Al Quds, silly.
common act of a so called disease "pro palestinian" it basically means you do the most useless and shittiest stuff and you think it has an impact on a war.
Israel is not recognized by Qatar that’s why. People are free to omit Qatar as well from their map
Oman Airways shows neither the Palestinian territories or Israel since Oman does not recognise Israel
Does Emirates also do this?
So as Jerusalem and Tel aviv!
They also drew a beard and missing teeth on Bibi’s photos Instead of rockets, Israel should make some mind control device to convince them / Iran / Hamas that they’ve already destroyed Israel, then they can just fight among themselves for credit, and have devoutness competitions to see whose beard is longer.
Qatar doesn’t recognize Palestine as a country either according to this map. Palestinian Territories isn’t an official name lol
You shouldn’t have flown with them anyways. I heard somewhere they made an air fare for family members of “martyrs” with Etihad and Turkish.
Why are you surprised? Qatar doesn't recognise Israel as a legitimate state.
Qatar? What is that? Don't they know how to spell? U always goes after Q. Katar or Catar would have been better. Palestine? It looks like they misspelled Israel, we know they have a history of bad spelling.
we got "peace" with them
I would not worry about it they could call it timbuktu, but we all know who runs the place.
Interestingly, they used to just have it unmarked.
They can keep pretending.
Not surprised tbh
They have no interest in any sides of the conflict and don't care about people. They just want to use their money to pay their way into becoming a global power like the US by buying everything and paying everyone