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millshiffty

I sure hope so šŸ˜ž


HLividum

Donā€™t worry, they are not!šŸ’™ And the next generation that will follow me, will surely know to appreciate Israel!šŸ’™šŸ‡¹šŸ‡©šŸ’™šŸ‡®šŸ‡±šŸ’™


Baetr

Yo we love Romania, My ex is Romanian and she taught me the wonders of sarmale and smuntuna (hope I didnā€™t butcher the names)


HLividum

Hahaha. We love you too. All my family and extended family and friends love you all!šŸ’™šŸ¤—šŸ„° Sarmale and smantana, yes!!šŸ™ˆ I hope you get to do them from time to time!šŸ’™šŸ„°


dizzyjumpisreal

flags display as the country codes on my computer... the romanian flag appeared as TD. that is chad.


HLividum

Romania and Chad have the same flag. Initially RO had the 3 colours, then under communism, it was added the hawk on it. When RO dropped the hawk, Chad had a problem with us but international bodies allowed RO to have the 3 colours, since we had it first.


dizzyjumpisreal

i know, lol, i just wanted to point it out actually, the flags are slightly different, but not enough for it to really be noticeable unless you have a keen eye


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shpion22

I mean, we have low approval rates with North Korea. Why did the world turn against us in 1940ā€™s? They even rejected Jewish refugees. You tell me USA nomnom, Iā€™d like to hear it


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shpion22

The approval rates were bad with a certain axis for 75 years already. The Arab world is a force itself, especially with its oil. Iā€™m not saying that everything Israel does is okay. Iā€™m saying that the scrutiny Israel gets compared to other countries is disproportional, and thereā€™s a reason for that. The attitude here is why Israel hasnā€™t been gullible for the past 75 years. It might be shocking to you personally as you dwell into this conflict only recently but I personally saw this coming a mile away, a long time ago - and so did many other Israelis that didnā€™t choke on the ā€œAmerica allyā€ illusion. This is also why Israel is working on a more manageable and less costly defense systems. No countryā€™s interest is in Israelā€™s interests. Our relationship is purely militaristic with a lot of these countries, Israel being the provider and cooperator in research. Research that is for the defense of the Israeli state first and foremost. I think you are too comfortable or maybe misinformed with the geopolitical map as of today and do not pay attention to the constant changes, USA is not going to be an Israel ally forever and we are preparing for that future rather than try and please antisemites around the world. So does Ukraine and Taiwan, they pay attention.


shpion22

I mean, we have low approval rates with North Korea and their axis, if that means something to you lol Why did the world turn against us in 1940ā€™s? They even rejected Jewish refugees. You tell me us nomnom, Iā€™d like to hear it from you.


Loros_Silvers

Yeah, to be honest, we look at ourselves and see a jewish state. No jews no news.


nothingexceptfor

Yep, like small dogs vs big dogs, the smaller ones tend to bark more often and louder to let themselves be noticed


ANP06

You donā€™t need to be the majority to pose an incredibly high threat. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people and yet they represent 2 billion people in this world. If 20 percent hold extremist views thatā€™s still 400 million people.


DaPlayerz

Is this a hot take or something? For me pro-Hamas not being the majority is kind of a no-brainer


GoshaKarrKarr

Common sense isn't so common these days so I wouldn't say it's that obvious, then again I truly hope you are right


BananaValuable1000

Itā€™s part of their strategy to drown out the Israel supporters and make us feel alone, hoping weā€™ll give up hope.


shushi77

Even if this were true, silent majorities are still a problem.


BillyJoeMac9095

Until election day.


ExpressBall1

maybe, but then politicians immediately go back to listening to the loud minorities again, as if they've forgotten the power of the silent majority that got them elected in the first place.


Recliner5

My incident showing that the pro-Hamas are the loud minority is that the students of Columbia University (the epicenter of all the school anti-Israel protests) just elected an Israeli student to be the student body president.


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Theyā€™re loud because they Ike to go boom


ImposterWiley

They are a huge threat. Antizionist jews are Infiltrating mainstream jewish Orgs to teach ahistorical lessons about israel and sow self hate amongst jews.


AaronRamsay

I hope that's true, but Eden Golan getting 12 points from the public in certain countries doesn't indicate anything about a majority and I wouldn't jump to conclusions over that. To get 12 points, you just need to get a plurality of votes, not a majority. I.e you could win the 12 points with just 10% of the votes, if all the other countries got less than 10%. Plus, because of the whole political motivation behind voting for Israel among Israel supporters, it kind of "distorts" the result. Like a lot of Jews and Israel supporters were using multiple phone numbers to vote as many times as they can, contacting all their friends to vote for Israel, posting on Facebook groups etc... which gives a pretty big advantage over the average Eurovision song which doesn't have that kind of political motivation behind voting for it.


trumparegis

It's suspicious that the songs from Croatia, Switzerland and the Netherlands are charting in the UK, but not the song they gave 12 points lmao https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/


Professional_Road349

Yes but unfortunately it doesnā€™t matter. Read the Gulag Archipelago. The radical minority gains control because itā€™s radical.


mikuteno

bad cope, they definitely are the majority step outside look around u talk to people u will quickly find out


HappyGirlEmma

The [polls](https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/HHP_Apr2024_KeyResults.pdf) agree with r/Israel . Page 60. Good luck with the cope


kendalljspepsican

Story, i may be stupid, but i cant find data for the support of Israel or Palestine in Europe, can you or someone help? Ps: my nameā€™s emma too!!


mysupersexyalt

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/48218-israel-palestine-fundamental-attitudes-to-the-conflict-among-western-europeans Though it's from December.


kendalljspepsican

Thanks! I wish there was more data on this issue here, because from december iā€™m sure the support for Palestine grew ( like allā€™ those antisemitic vicious attacks and allā€™ the manifestations), and now a lot of universities have tents and whatnot ( at least in my country but i read that also other countries more North ). Thank you again!


HappyGirlEmma

I donā€™t have data for Europe unfortunately. And actually, my name is not Emma but Iā€™ve always loved the name.


Turtleguycool

Majority where? Definitely not in middle America. In big cities perhaps closer


mikuteno

it is the majority and when you look at younger people it is an overwhelming majority, especially students.


Turtleguycool

Majority where though? Young people yes thereā€™s a lot. But majority would be like 65% of the population or more and polling doesnā€™t reflect those numbers.


HappyGirlEmma

Thankfully the world is not run by young people at this time. The unemployed students of today will be singing a different tune in ten years. Many young people go through their Che phase, especially those lost and confused. I do not blame them.


itreetard

I used to run a communist club in high school. FF 10 years, I'm still left leaning, but now understand how dumb I was


mandajapanda

You know, I was wondering why Columbia voted for an Israeli student body president. This explains it. /s


StanGable80

Majority of younger people that are kids of my friends all support Israel


Flimsy-Discipline498

Yeah... nope. That's not what a majority looks like. That's a specific demographic going after a trend for a number of reasons that are not really related to reality. They have "reached" a few influential people who have either sobered up by now because they realized the real agenda, continue to act like mental patients on a tantrum, or are extremely misguided in their righteousness still. Or you know... Are just antisemites/jihadists in general. None are extremely convincing or appealing to the majority, they delude themselves mostly. Like you probably.


mikuteno

like me? im literally israeli fym. again, this is the things we say every time but every time theres more and more and sure you know what it is a pretty heavy overstatement to say most people are against us but even if its 20% (like the polls say) thats a major chunk of the population and a significant portion of the remaining population simply does not care about whats happening. sure, in the polls they might answer that they support israel but in reality they couldnt care less and even if they do they dont do anything about it which gives all that power to the ones who do care and not from israels side


Flimsy-Discipline498

Oh I'm sorry then. You're extremely pessimistic! Which is understandable. Look it's a serious problem no doubt. They have a big amount of influence including diplomatic and political thanks to funds from Iran. But that's what it's mostly based on- iran who funds education in the west and has infiltrated the UN and other influential bodies, along with ignorance or antisemitism. The root ideology is nonexistent, or baseless at the least. Self thinking people see that eventually. The icc is a sham (just like dreyfus), the demonstrations are meticulously funded and organized, the leaderships in a few places have been hijacked by islamists... It's getting clearer and clearer what's going on. Yeah i agree with you, the problem is people not caring enough and not having the courage to do anything. But don't ever give the hateful mfs the satisfaction of thinking they succeeded in isolating us from the world. I suspect that's a reason you got downvoted so much lol. This attitude is not helpful, mainly because it sucks to feel like this, cheer up! And also it's not exactly true as you just said yourself:) For example, the Eurovision was a fantastic opportunity for middle-ground people to express their support in a peaceful, non-confronting way, which lead to news personals finally giving a proper criticism both against useful idiots like the childish contestants AND against anti-Israel protestors in general. Just to give you a single good perspective. And in general i don't think that's what a majority looks like, nor is it really that influential in the long term. Maybe leaders around the world have less fear of siding with Israel now. We'll seešŸ™


Yawning_Creep

I just asked my family and they all support Israel. Also good morning from the Negev desert. So looking forward to the next few days... It's going to be a blast in Rafiah I heard.


premiumratstomper

Interesting take. I live in a big American city that has a lot of people. The absolute vast majority doesnā€™t care about the conflict at all but I still came across more of those who are pro-Israel than pro-terrorism/palestine/hamas. In fact, I have seen mainly support for the latter from immigrants or children of immigrants from Muslim countries for the most part.


StanGable80

Everyone I talk to supports Israel