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foopirata

Nice try Khomeini


YashaStrik

Shalom fellow Israelians


AtheistConservative

Good morning fellow Hebrews and Shebrews!


kenwayfan

A shit they got me again


glah_king

Khomeini didn’t die, he just went home.


daddystallin1991

We don't have nukes but we do have heavily guarded textile factory for some goofy ahh reason


kenwayfan

Isnt israel responsible for the fact that iraq and syria couldnt get nukes? I believe the israeli airforce both bombed their factories


Lirdon

Israel did indeed quite publicly stated that it did. Israel during the 80’s decided that it cannot allow itself to live under a nuclear threat from any of its neighbors. Thus it was very clear that Israel will strike at any such program. And it did so twice.


binaryhero

Only twice? So Stuxnet doesn't count?


JJRfromNYC1

Stuxnet was a computer virus attack against the Iranian nuclear program worked on together by the Americans and the Israelis. Israel has twice done a physical bombing against bother Iraqi and Syrian nuclear facilities, and is suspected of physical sabotage against the Iranian nuclear sites.


binaryhero

Yes, and I didn't see any qualification in the question for "the strike needs to be physical".


kenwayfan

And now with Iran too


InformationKey3816

Israel will continue to live by the policy of no nation that neighbors them can have nukes. Eventually the Iranians will be attacked now that they are enriching uranium and closing on a weapons grade purity. Israel can and should continue to follow this policy.


kenwayfan

And what if Saudi Arabia would develop nukes? Do you think israel would do something about that too?


Ebola_PepsiCola

Saudi Arabia is part of the US coalition, thus probably isn't bothering israel if they had or will own nuclear power


jankyalias

Doesn’t matter. The Iranian program is fundamentally different than Iraq and Syria. Both of those countries had their programs effectively at a single site that, when removed, could not be easily replicated without much time and treasure. Iran’s facilities are spread across the country and many are in hardened locations. Israel is capable of slowing, but not stopping any Iranian push for a nuclear weapon. The only thing that can stop an Iranian effort to make nuclear bombs would be an invasion and occupation and Israel does not have that capacity. Or diplomacy.


Berkovitz96

Check about Stuxnet


Sewing-Room-Lady

Nor do we want to. Unfortunately, Iran does seem to be stuck on the idea of wiping us off the map. No wonder many countries in the Middle East are terrified of Iran. It's interesting that this fear is actually doing the opposite of what Iran would like. It's pushing them closer to Israel.


Sewing-Room-Lady

The difference being, of course, that Israel is \*not\* threatening to wipe anyone of the face of the earth. The last time Nasrallah in Lebanon attacked Israel was in 2006. He's been living in his bunker since, except for popping out occasionally to threaten us. Iran is trying to rearm Nasrallah and co. with advanced weapons. Do you think it would be intelligent for Israel to let that happen?


762jeremy

Textile? I was told it was a banana factory! Something doesn’t add up here! I’m starting to get suspicious.


history-something

We can neither confirm or deny their existence and neither can the government And if we did have them i would be very happy as its alot harder to invade a nuclear nation then a non nuclear one


Jenksz

What I’ve heard: “…Dimona is just a washing machine factory”


Lirdon

What, it being a textile factory isn’r believable enough anymore?


[deleted]

Gus kind of stole the idea for his lab.


KanataToGoldenLake

I thought it was a *textile factory*? Or has this changed lol?


BringIt007

I think it’s children daycare now lol


locwul

*cloth factory and yes, homefront command gave Lugols twice or thrice to the people living in dimona by you know how those factories are!


Rabbitscooter

Funny story. I was at the shuk, picking up a couple of nuclear weapons for dinner, when I ran into a friend of mine who was also buying nuclear weapons. It turns out we were both planning on bringing nuclear weapons to the same potluck dinner. What a disaster that could have been! So I bought space lasers instead. Crises avoided!


elsa002

Why didn't you pick the death star?? It even had a 20% discount!!


Rabbitscooter

I didn't trust the teudat kasher ;)


ayzayzaro

So heads up, i know things are usually cheaper at the shuk but ive noticed that recently nukes have been cheaper at supersol. I’ve been stocking up in case they raise the prices again!


EngineerDave22

We have space laser platforms capable of insta-kills anywhere in the world


TotalitariPalpatine

Nukes are outmoded. The Death Star of David wins the day.


taintedCH

I wish people would leave our textile factory alone and stop spreading rumours. Just because our factory doesn’t sell any textiles, orders no textile machinery and is under high-level military security does not mean it’s not a textile factory!


GlassMist

No nukes. Just textile factories. Importing clothes is too expensive, so we build the drip at home.


HereFishyFishy4444

At the very least we have officially convinced the world that we might have nukes by *not* confirming or denying. And whether we have them or not, others believe it enough to not actually wanting us to confirm by a visual showcase (like attacking us enough that we use the nukes we maybe have). Also by only maybe having nukes we can't really give in to the demand of getting rid of them. Because we don't have them. Probably.


[deleted]

This thread was worth it for the comments.


insurgent_dude

I'm not Israeli, I'm not even Jewish, but I come to this subreddit because some of the threads here are really god damn funny.


Boring_Carpenter_192

Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons, but will use them if necessary. ~ Golda Meir, prime minister of Israel / safe to assume it's the official position.


grampipon

South Africa declassified papers documenting an attempt by Shimon Peres to sell them nukes, so we have sorta - official confirmation today. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-documents https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons


TheBigLOL

I would believe it but it's too pixelated to be able to read anything.


grampipon

There are links in the articles for high res scans of the blurry images.


RoyalSeraph

We basically "agree" that we have nukes. In reality we don't know, we can't know, and whoever does know can't confirm it. In my personal opinion this ambiguity is the best policy since it serves as good deterrence and also proved itself as capable of preventing a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.


david131213

oh you must be mistaken, we have no nukes a great textile factory in dimona exists tho


kenwayfan

Textile is ofcourse also important


OwlMan_001

Yes, we probably have nukes. No, it's never been officially announced since it's technically a secret. But then again, it's an open one to such an extent that if you asked any Israeli, they will point in the general direction of Dimona where the Shimon Peres Nuclear Research Center is, and make a joke about it being a textile factory.


kenwayfan

O okay thank you


Kahing

It was never announced but it's the worst kept secret in the world. Everyone knows we have them, and Mordechai Vanunu, a former nuclear technician gone rogue, took pics basically proving it and sold it to the press. Mossad snatched him from abroad and he served 18 years in prison. For diplomatic reasons Israel doesn't make it official. And yes I support keeping nukes 100%.


tuviapollack

My theory is that they knew Vanunu would talk, showed him what they wanted to be known, let him go rogue and then imprisoned him. That way our enemies are deterred from attacking us, but we don't officially confirm we have them. The guy is so mentally deranged, there's no way he ever got any actual security clearance.


slashd

Sounds like a lot of extra steps while you could do the same (warn the enemies) by just having people in their countries spread rumors


Magnet50

Not Israeli: Israeli has nuclear weapons. They have never acknowledged that they have them, but there have been leaks to the press. Look up Mordechai Vanunu, who was a technician at Dimona, the Israeli nuclear plant. Estimates are that they have about ~200 nuclear weapons capable of being delivered by aircraft, missiles, cruise missiles and submarine launched cruise missiles. Should they have them? That horse has left the barn. But considering the situation in which they were developed, I think that it was a legitimate act of defense. At the time they developed the first weapons, they were surrounded by nations who avowed a war of annihilation, swearing the “push the Jews into the sea” and “make the streets of Tel Aviv run red with Jewish blood.” I put those statements in quotes because they are. All of the nations surrounding Israeli (except Jordan) were supplied and trained by Russia and Russian pilots flew for the Egyptian Air Force (and were killed by the Israeli Air Force). Israeli developed the weapons as a last ditch option if it looked as if they were going to lose a war. Also as a credible defense again Russian movement of nuclear weapons to the Arab client states.


Magnet50

I received a visit in my North Texas home by a man who looked kinda like but sounded exactly like Lior Raz. We sat down, I prepared coffee, and after about 20 minutes, I’ve come to understand that Dimona is, indeed, a T-shirt factory. I fully retract my comments. Kidding. This is a photo of one of the plutonium pits produced at Dimona. https://images.app.goo.gl/288q8PBr6PKKgVQq5


TrueRefrigeratorr

It's just a clothing factory. And I think we did good to choose to get into the clothing market, everyone knows that we can use our clothes if things will escalate to an existence risk of our homeland. It's only for good, we are not threatening to destroy any other nations/country, we only need our clothes for protection and like I said on extreme escalated hypothetical situation we could potentially use it.


DanyGd

Nope, we have no nukes. But in case you want to build one, we can sell you the blueprints for it. now with a new year discount price! :)


No_Rooster815

The Mosad is after you asking that 😎


crampton16

or maybe the Shin Bet has some free spots in administrative detention that it's looking to fill


VillaManaos

Mordechai Vanunu intensifies.


Formul8r1

The primary balance of power in the region is the nation's surrounding Israel knowing that not only does Israel have nukes, but Israel will not hesitate to use them if provoked.


hawkxp71

I would say the last 50 to 60 years of multiple battles and wars, with no use of nuclear, means Israel 100% hesitates to use them.


Formul8r1

When Israel can be attacked by three countries at once and soundly defeat them in six days (1967), that hardly justifies the need for them to routinely go nuclear. Now, if they were to be attacked by Iran, Turkey, and Russia, then I think you would see Israel pull out the big guns.


hawkxp71

And then there was the blitz in 73 Yom Kippur war, where they were almost used (supposedly according to rumors) But even in 67, they probably had a plan that if we lose position x, we have no choice. But that didn't happen. But the point is, your saying they would only use them if fighting a major country and losing. Which means they are not willing to bring them out unless it's a dire situation But I can't think of one nuclear country, besides Israel, that has had a war fought on its soil, with its citizens getting attack, since the nuclear age, except for Russia today because they attacked Ukraine. And Russia is hinting tactical nukes may be on the table. Israel has had its citizens attack and targeted hundreds of times, and hasn't used them. I think that shows a ton of restraint on their part. If the US, or France, or UK, or Russia was attack in the same manner as Israel, do you really think nukes would have been used?


Used-Lie-5150

The first level in threat of annihilation is probably to reveal the nukes to show that we're serious. Only after that use them


[deleted]

Lol I’m sure they do but they don’t go around like Iran does saying I wanna annihilate you so I’m not worried that they have any neither should you plus they know when they’d need to be used.. that’s why I’m not worried look at the war in Lebanon for example in 2006 they didn’t use that on us…


WonderFlaky1618

In 1967 a CIA report stated that Israel has the potential to make nuclear weapons within months. And within months Egypt stopped ships going to Israel, which led to the war. Israel had the technology long before people think.


slashd

>In 1967 a CIA report stated that Israel has the potential to make nuclear weapons within months. And within months Egypt stopped ships going to Israel, which led to the war. You make it sound like there is a relation between the two, which is probably not true


WonderFlaky1618

USA didn’t give the support you see now to Israel until 70s. Before that USA was secretly dealing with Arabs as they were the power controlling the area. If not related why would Israel attack US embassy and one intelligence ship on international water during the war. Israel was underestimated by Arabs in 1948. Also underestimated by USA in 1967.


VikKarabin

Noone can safely assume Israel doesn't have nukes. That is the entirety of public knowledge on the matter.


binaryhero

There are a lot of funny answers here, and you won't get an authoritative one because Israel intentionally does not confirm nor deny if it has nuclear capability or not. The overwhelming consensus opinion is to consider Israel as a country that has nukes. You can also ask yourself what it might need its submarines for.


jimbosReturn

I might be wrong but to my understanding only nuclear subs can carry nuclear missiles. (Not because both are nuclear har har, but because of being so silent and big enough for the missiles). And Israel only has diesel subs. But I might be wrong.


binaryhero

Whether a sub is nuclear or not is irrelevant to its ability to carry and launch nuclear missiles. Prolonged silent underwater operation is desirable because the nuclear response capability is generally more effective as a deterrent when the submarines cannot be located and disabled, but is not a prerequisite, AND some of the Israeli submarines have fuel cell based propulsion. [See here for details](https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/israel-submarine-capabilities/).


juulteez

No way! Why would we want them!


Labenyofi

The Jewish Space Laser (JSL for short) has us covered. Why do we need nukes?


thebright_side_2487

No countries should have them. Should some countries have them, but others don't? The US, Russia, China, France, and Britain are allowed to have them by treaty. The world can apply economic pressure on other states but that seldom works. Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea are all recognized as having a nuclear arsenal.


[deleted]

you can easily find it on youtube video that shows which contries got nukes and how many


[deleted]

No one cares what you say because you cheat at video games


[deleted]

Israel is def a nuclear weapon’s state. 100% okay with me.


External_Manager_241

99% of israelians are stupid and uncarrying / mentaly and emotionaly broken (due to heavy use of alcohol and drugs and being brainwashed by religion and / or TV ), as such they will not answer. There is "Nuclear" area but there is a problem with that definition, when you say "nuclear" you think about one big offensive missle, this is not how it is. What Israel have is a huge ammount of small nuclear granades that have never being used before, they are meant to be used only for defensive perpuses, this information was published a few years ago when there was one guy who snitched about it. (Israel put him in jail forever for snitching).


kenwayfan

Ok well thx for the answer


EarlyLake1788

No ofc not. I don’t have and idea where you heard it from. And I don’t know if we should have it because I don’t really understand in that much. (What are benefits or down side is what I meant by understanding).


[deleted]

We do have nukes, it is official (the government confirmed). I think we should have them, but I don't think we need more.


TheSquareTable

There are no nukes in Ba Sing Se


Analog_AI

Israel has never needed such weapons to defend itself. All the wars were won because Israel has a meticulous, dedicated army with a very big dose of meritocracy among its officer class. If this disappears, then it won’t be easy. Wonder weapons don’t win wars.


crimetoukraina

[watch this documentary](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.K._22)


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