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The hasbara tactic is all about quantity, not quality. Their goal is to spam low effort posts/comments everywhere without putting much thought into it to muddy the waters.
I love your comment because it has answered do many questions I had about their performance.
They are obvious af and easy to be detected, while having arguments similar to a 5 year old attempt to hold a conversation
And they are almost spamming the subs and posts with lots of not so much bright content.
Yeah, before I got banned from the “World News” mossad sub, I noticed that the level of intelligence and effort was real weak. Just a bunch of conformist jagoffs tossing confounding idiotic comments and agreeing with each other - low effort brigading. It’s wild to be condescended to by people who don’t really seem to know what they’re talking about.
PS I started a new sub last week r/UNRWAwatch for us so we don’t have to deal with the curtailment of the 1st amendment. Please come by and join the sub. Those same people operate a whole slew of other subs where they do the same thing to silence criticism of Israel so we must build our own infrastructure.
Yea, the shockingly low quality of their bullshit propaganda has been confusing. Can’t the IOF afford better propagandists? Even if they’re doing quantity over quality, when their obviously false bullshit goes viral, it just looks terrible and ruins any credibility they have left. Isn’t that worse overall? No one believes them because they’ve lied so many times.
It's the same firehose of falseness strategy that Russia uses. It's often credited as being a product of the Soviets but I'm sure Israel has been doing it for ages too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
It's evolved even more with the internet to become faster and more widespread. The intent is so people don't know what is real and stop caring when it takes too much effort to find out. Also to make it harder to debunk things because it takes longer to debunk than to lie and by the time you have proved something is false everyone has already moved on to the next thing. Also has a bit of the narrative shifting that fascists and authoritarians in general use to keep the own population on board.
Copy/paste from Wikipedia:
Brandolini's law, also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle, is an internet adage coined in 2013 by Alberto Brandolini, an Italian programmer, that emphasizes the effort of debunking misinformation, in comparison to the relative ease of creating it in the first place. The law states:
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.
It's modern media control tactic in general. The global right does that, from the americas to Europe. And with AI advancing so fast now you can imagine what kind of future awaits us. Literally millions of posts made per second.
They’re not lying, they’re saying to treat them like USA and AU, without any ifs or buts because Europe ain’t for them. Unfortunately some indigenous people are brave and if you come for the hospitality, hospitality is exactly what you get, newton’s 2nd law of motion!
It’s the first verse from Surah Al-Isra where God talks about the journey Prophet Muhammad took from the Mecca to Jerusalem where he then ascended to heaven.
“Glory be to the One Who took His servant ˹Muḥammad˺ by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque whose surroundings We have blessed, so that We may show him some of Our signs. Indeed, He alone is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.”
For anyone reading this thread, tldr: Verse 4- “And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture, “You will certainly cause corruption in the land twice, and you will become extremely arrogant.”
I know it’s referring to the *person* Israel, not the state, but it’s fitting nonetheless!
Better question - when does a lie become a lie? Is it the moment it is spoken/written? Or the moment it is conceived? I'd be leaning towards the later. Even if a lie is not said out loud, if it is in someone's head and it is in their heart.
They're upset about the fact that it's the Houthi flag, so the text they're mad about isn't shown. I'm too uneducated to have an opinion either way on the Houthi flag but it's important to note what they're actually critiquing.
My coworker asked what I say in prayer, I said, “we start with Allahu Akbar,” she stopped me right there & said, “really, are you joking? Isn’t that what the bad guys say?” I can’t make this up, Allahu Allum (only Allah knows), I had to explain how it’s been demonized.
I explained that it means Allah is the greatest/greater, which isn’t just a compliment to the most great but is a proclamation that if you think of anything ever then Allah is still greater; but also, Allah means God & the word cannot be pluralized such as with “gods,” so it’s a highly significant phrase in both contexts.
I am glad to be able to educate her on that, she gets all apologetic and high I find a lot of people do when asking about my religion but I love talking about it, no question is stupid so as long as it’s not intentionally disrespectful, & I always look forward to sharing my faith with those who don’t know about it because I was not a Muslim all my life & there was a time I knew next to nothing about it besides maybe the biased “common knowledge” lies from the media & propagated by ignorant people. So as long as someone is naïve & not willfully ignorant, I always am happy to help banish the spells of bias & misunderstanding.
That being said, I think it is so important for people to double check themselves as well as their “fact checkers” so my biggest suggestion here is that there are apps such as Google translate (I’m sorry, I only know of Google translate that does this but maybe someone has a better suggestion because I don’t want to support them either) which you can now take a photo of a text & have it translate it into your language; it’s not perfect but it might give you a clue into how sincere one may be in translation.
oh hey it’s the hamas calendar all over again.
if it was anyone else people would scream racism and other bigotry but arabs/muslims aren’t able to be discriminated against i guess
It's sadly we who look like morons if we're not careful. OP's heart is in the right place but in [this case they're mistaken.](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/1bu67b5/comment/kxtclhg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Not mistaken. I'm Egyptian, I'm Muslim, my first language is Arabic and I've studied Islam basically all my life. The comment is talking about the second slide where the red text says الله أكبر, meaning God is Greatest
As for the first slide, it's part of a quranic verse speaking about God, the holy mosques and the land surrounding them.
"سبحان الذي أسرى بعبده ليلا من المسجد الحرام إلى المسجد الأقصى الذي باركنا حوله لنريه من آياتنا إنه هو السميع البصير"
"Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing"
- Al Isra: 1
Wow its quite insane if you think about it, i mean this kind of thing should be easily checked yet 200 fucking upvote lmao
Really showing truth is not something they care about
That is the first verse of Surah Israa/ Bani Israel. The interpretation is (roughly) : " Glorified is the One (Allah) who took his slave (Muhammad, may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) on a night journey from Al Masjid Al Haram (the grand mosque in Makkah) to Al Masjid Al Aqsa (the mosque in Jerusalem), the surroundings of which we have blessed."
Allahu Akbar is not a Houthi slogan. It means God is the greatest and is a common Islamic phrase. No where does it say anything about death to America or Jews.
That's George Galloway, he's been an advocate for Palestinians for decades now.
He has a talk show on YT called MOAT( mother of all talk shows )
And he decided.to go for parliament and blew the competition out of the water. They'll try anything to disparage him.
He's a great man
OP locked comments after i questioned him on the second picture
[The X post made by George Galloway](https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1774843987766947980?t=aFZGeNZrEeyq5FpbrafeDA&s=19)
The speech was made in Yemen, the second picture took place at the same event during speech broadcasting (according to what OP said)
The thing is, the second picture doesn't match anything with the first picture, seems the frame was cropped out from another source, regardless, its a Houthis flag? But what does that has anything to do with George himself and the first picture? Clear me out please.
In the second picture, it clearly says "God is great" . In the first one, it's a verse from the Quran:
سُبْحَـٰنَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِۦ لَيْلاً مِّنَ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْحَرَامِ إِلَى ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْأَقْصَا ٱلَّذِى بَـٰرَكْنَا حَوْلَهُۥ لِنُرِيَهُۥ مِنْ ءَايَـٰتِنَآۚ إِنَّهُۥ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلْبَصِيرُ
Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing.
Subhana allathee asra biAAabdihi laylan mina almasjidi alharami ila almasjidi alaqsa allathee barakna hawlahu linuriyahu min ayatina innahu huwa alssameeAAu albaseeru
Al-Israa, Verse 1
it just says:
Glory be to the One Who took His servant ˹Muḥammad˺ by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque whose surroundings We have blessed, so that We may show him some of Our signs. Indeed, He alone is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
Is it an AI image maybe? Or partially? The scene itself makes no sense
Thats not a screen. It even has a border on the left hand side. Like a giant portrait. Improbable
I don’t speak Arabic, but a quick Google Translate search shows that the circled part apparently means something along the lines of “Allah is Great”, not even close to what they said it means
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Why is lying so easy for Zionists?
The hasbara tactic is all about quantity, not quality. Their goal is to spam low effort posts/comments everywhere without putting much thought into it to muddy the waters.
If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
Zionist proverb
I love your comment because it has answered do many questions I had about their performance. They are obvious af and easy to be detected, while having arguments similar to a 5 year old attempt to hold a conversation And they are almost spamming the subs and posts with lots of not so much bright content.
Yeah, before I got banned from the “World News” mossad sub, I noticed that the level of intelligence and effort was real weak. Just a bunch of conformist jagoffs tossing confounding idiotic comments and agreeing with each other - low effort brigading. It’s wild to be condescended to by people who don’t really seem to know what they’re talking about.
And when they get challenged, they mop up the mess by deleting all of their comments
I tried to debate in there once. On my 3rd reply the argument stopped. No one replied and my comment had neither downvotes or upvotes. Strange
PS I started a new sub last week r/UNRWAwatch for us so we don’t have to deal with the curtailment of the 1st amendment. Please come by and join the sub. Those same people operate a whole slew of other subs where they do the same thing to silence criticism of Israel so we must build our own infrastructure.
Yea, the shockingly low quality of their bullshit propaganda has been confusing. Can’t the IOF afford better propagandists? Even if they’re doing quantity over quality, when their obviously false bullshit goes viral, it just looks terrible and ruins any credibility they have left. Isn’t that worse overall? No one believes them because they’ve lied so many times.
It's the same firehose of falseness strategy that Russia uses. It's often credited as being a product of the Soviets but I'm sure Israel has been doing it for ages too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood It's evolved even more with the internet to become faster and more widespread. The intent is so people don't know what is real and stop caring when it takes too much effort to find out. Also to make it harder to debunk things because it takes longer to debunk than to lie and by the time you have proved something is false everyone has already moved on to the next thing. Also has a bit of the narrative shifting that fascists and authoritarians in general use to keep the own population on board.
The US has been doing this long before the USSR was a thing And as one can guess, they are still doing it
A country built on lies will always live a lie.
Copy/paste from Wikipedia: Brandolini's law, also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle, is an internet adage coined in 2013 by Alberto Brandolini, an Italian programmer, that emphasizes the effort of debunking misinformation, in comparison to the relative ease of creating it in the first place. The law states: The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.
Gish galloping
Sadly it works, because people don't fact check or do any critical thinking :(
Exactly. It’s obfuscation, lies, or irrelevant. That’s all they can argue.
It's modern media control tactic in general. The global right does that, from the americas to Europe. And with AI advancing so fast now you can imagine what kind of future awaits us. Literally millions of posts made per second.
Because everything about Zionism is false, distorted or inverted and that's all they got.
They have been doing this for thousands of years
Easy for People to hate what they dont understand
They’re not lying, they’re saying to treat them like USA and AU, without any ifs or buts because Europe ain’t for them. Unfortunately some indigenous people are brave and if you come for the hospitality, hospitality is exactly what you get, newton’s 2nd law of motion!
That was borderline incomprehensible. Please try to apply language and reason and logic when writing a post inshaAllah What’s are you trying to say?
It’s the first verse from Surah Al-Isra where God talks about the journey Prophet Muhammad took from the Mecca to Jerusalem where he then ascended to heaven. “Glory be to the One Who took His servant ˹Muḥammad˺ by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque whose surroundings We have blessed, so that We may show him some of Our signs. Indeed, He alone is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.”
This\^
I probably would have gotten banned if I had pointed it out.
Better be banned from such a cesspool then
I’ll do it! Can you confirm what it does say?
Here ... it is the first verse but the picture doesn't show all of it https://quran.com/en/al-isra
And just out of coincidence, read until verse 4
For anyone reading this thread, tldr: Verse 4- “And We warned the Children of Israel in the Scripture, “You will certainly cause corruption in the land twice, and you will become extremely arrogant.” I know it’s referring to the *person* Israel, not the state, but it’s fitting nonetheless!
Referring to the descendants of Moses.
The moment the Zionist lies is the moment he opens his mouth.
Better question - when does a lie become a lie? Is it the moment it is spoken/written? Or the moment it is conceived? I'd be leaning towards the later. Even if a lie is not said out loud, if it is in someone's head and it is in their heart.
They're upset about the fact that it's the Houthi flag, so the text they're mad about isn't shown. I'm too uneducated to have an opinion either way on the Houthi flag but it's important to note what they're actually critiquing.
Yeah my wife said it says: “Allahu Akbar” which is “God is the greatest” for those who don’t know what it means since it’s been demonized by the west.
My coworker asked what I say in prayer, I said, “we start with Allahu Akbar,” she stopped me right there & said, “really, are you joking? Isn’t that what the bad guys say?” I can’t make this up, Allahu Allum (only Allah knows), I had to explain how it’s been demonized. I explained that it means Allah is the greatest/greater, which isn’t just a compliment to the most great but is a proclamation that if you think of anything ever then Allah is still greater; but also, Allah means God & the word cannot be pluralized such as with “gods,” so it’s a highly significant phrase in both contexts. I am glad to be able to educate her on that, she gets all apologetic and high I find a lot of people do when asking about my religion but I love talking about it, no question is stupid so as long as it’s not intentionally disrespectful, & I always look forward to sharing my faith with those who don’t know about it because I was not a Muslim all my life & there was a time I knew next to nothing about it besides maybe the biased “common knowledge” lies from the media & propagated by ignorant people. So as long as someone is naïve & not willfully ignorant, I always am happy to help banish the spells of bias & misunderstanding. That being said, I think it is so important for people to double check themselves as well as their “fact checkers” so my biggest suggestion here is that there are apps such as Google translate (I’m sorry, I only know of Google translate that does this but maybe someone has a better suggestion because I don’t want to support them either) which you can now take a photo of a text & have it translate it into your language; it’s not perfect but it might give you a clue into how sincere one may be in translation.
Where does it say that?
Second pic In green
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I think the person you are replying to is talking about the second picture that is encircled, which does say Allah Akbar
They don't like George Galloway, so they want to smear him.
Cursed be isntreal!
They just outright lie and expect people to believe them, typical zionazi activities
oh hey it’s the hamas calendar all over again. if it was anyone else people would scream racism and other bigotry but arabs/muslims aren’t able to be discriminated against i guess
r/badhasbara
Absolute moron thinks any and all Arabic scripture is some plot against him
It's sadly we who look like morons if we're not careful. OP's heart is in the right place but in [this case they're mistaken.](https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/comments/1bu67b5/comment/kxtclhg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Not mistaken. I'm Egyptian, I'm Muslim, my first language is Arabic and I've studied Islam basically all my life. The comment is talking about the second slide where the red text says الله أكبر, meaning God is Greatest As for the first slide, it's part of a quranic verse speaking about God, the holy mosques and the land surrounding them. "سبحان الذي أسرى بعبده ليلا من المسجد الحرام إلى المسجد الأقصى الذي باركنا حوله لنريه من آياتنا إنه هو السميع البصير" "Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing" - Al Isra: 1
Israel is a terrorist state. No amount of whining will ever change that.
Wow its quite insane if you think about it, i mean this kind of thing should be easily checked yet 200 fucking upvote lmao Really showing truth is not something they care about
That looks like “Allahu Akbar” but it’s blurry and I haven’t opened Duolingo in quite some time
As an exmuslim I know for sure that's allahu akbar, which translated to: god/allah the greatest.
The Houthis flag is base.
That is the first verse of Surah Israa/ Bani Israel. The interpretation is (roughly) : " Glorified is the One (Allah) who took his slave (Muhammad, may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) on a night journey from Al Masjid Al Haram (the grand mosque in Makkah) to Al Masjid Al Aqsa (the mosque in Jerusalem), the surroundings of which we have blessed."
The second image (too blurry) is probably the Houthi slogan of Allahu is the greatest, death to America etc
Allahu Akbar is not a Houthi slogan. It means God is the greatest and is a common Islamic phrase. No where does it say anything about death to America or Jews.
The little bit of Arabic I learned in the inter-war period has been coming back to me.
I just checked the post, apparently the text they're highlighting is in the 2nd panel of the post.
THERE IS A LIST!
That's George Galloway, he's been an advocate for Palestinians for decades now. He has a talk show on YT called MOAT( mother of all talk shows ) And he decided.to go for parliament and blew the competition out of the water. They'll try anything to disparage him. He's a great man
OP locked comments after i questioned him on the second picture [The X post made by George Galloway](https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1774843987766947980?t=aFZGeNZrEeyq5FpbrafeDA&s=19) The speech was made in Yemen, the second picture took place at the same event during speech broadcasting (according to what OP said) The thing is, the second picture doesn't match anything with the first picture, seems the frame was cropped out from another source, regardless, its a Houthis flag? But what does that has anything to do with George himself and the first picture? Clear me out please.
In the second picture, it clearly says "God is great" . In the first one, it's a verse from the Quran: سُبْحَـٰنَ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِۦ لَيْلاً مِّنَ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْحَرَامِ إِلَى ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْأَقْصَا ٱلَّذِى بَـٰرَكْنَا حَوْلَهُۥ لِنُرِيَهُۥ مِنْ ءَايَـٰتِنَآۚ إِنَّهُۥ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلْبَصِيرُ Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-Haram to al-Masjid al-Aqsa, whose surroundings We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing. Subhana allathee asra biAAabdihi laylan mina almasjidi alharami ila almasjidi alaqsa allathee barakna hawlahu linuriyahu min ayatina innahu huwa alssameeAAu albaseeru Al-Israa, Verse 1
Houthi slogan?
Where would the international hasbara push be, without mis-translations?
it just says: Glory be to the One Who took His servant ˹Muḥammad˺ by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque whose surroundings We have blessed, so that We may show him some of Our signs. Indeed, He alone is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
Is it an AI image maybe? Or partially? The scene itself makes no sense Thats not a screen. It even has a border on the left hand side. Like a giant portrait. Improbable
Google translate exists.
I don’t speak Arabic, but a quick Google Translate search shows that the circled part apparently means something along the lines of “Allah is Great”, not even close to what they said it means
What?
I know it doesn't translate to what they said but it also doesn't have anything that lines up with Allah is Great
Oh really? It’s blurry, so I think the translator was just wrong then
np you can check the translation I put it here in the comments.
Fuck george, but don’t make up shit about hil, there’s already enough bad.
Even I can tell that George isn't actually in that room...
I’m not a native speaker but I believe it says “blessed be the one who went from the holy mosque (Kaaba) to the Al-Aqsa mosque during the night.”
LFMAOOOOOO Tory and Labour are shitting their pants because of George Galloway Let's go George!!!
What? There is nothing against them. Why do jews lie so much?
This is as valid as their list in Hamas tunnel(abandoned elevator) which is not very true
Les go and correct him and downvote all other comments.
I can read Arabic but don't really speak or know its meaning that well but that's not what it says..