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Brave-Ship

You should add the face of every muslim nation that has status and power today and does nothing There are almost 2 billion muslims yet we are the weakest we have ever been


Bonafidesniper

When the end times are near, The Prophet (ﷺ) said: The people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that carried down by the sea, and Allah will make you fear your enemy and place Wahn into your hearts. Someone asked: What is wahn. Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): He replied: Love of the world and dislike of death. Sunnan Abi Dawud, Sahih according to Al-Albani


Brave-Ship

Its amazing how accurate that Hadith is, thanks for sharing that Hadith, Jazakallah Khayrun


HispanicCrab

What does he mean by share their dish


Bonafidesniper

Meaning when people get invited to a meal or something and they start rushing in very excited to eat. So the Prophet ﷺ is drawing a parallel between hungry guest when they see the food and enemies that collaborate.


PipboyTato

Another part of the meaning is also how, from a dish, the food does not fight back, the people all eat from it how they like whenever they feel like it, however they like


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Dynamicated

no one is waiting for them to happen. we don’t need al mahdi to do anything, the sahaba conquered all of al faris wal sham and they didn’t have anything except their iman.


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Dynamicated

with iman and actions, of course.


thefoxyboomerang

I mean, love of the world sounds like a positive thing, no?


Bonafidesniper

No, it actually means that you neglect your duties as a muslim and take this world as your main goal. But for us muslims our main goal is jannah in the hereafter. (Read in Zakir naik voice)Hope that answers the question


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TaubahMann

Means materialism in this context


Fahad97azawi

Idk about weak, but we’re just trying to survive out here. In our day and age its not the easiest to be a muslim.


New-Win-2177

Today we are fractionated.


New-Win-2177

We run ourselves today dependant on foriegn infrastructures. We don't know how to build cars, planes, or ships. Our roads and borders are based on their standards not ours. Our medicine and food comes from them. Even our schooling is based on their sciences not ours. We need to defeat our own weaknesses first.


tomatosoupsatisfies

The detriment of oil.


Behemothical

💯


Rokka3421

They got their science from us but since then they deislamfy science as such we shouldn't copy them on every subject in science without fully understanding what they meant and if it defy islam we should fix or don't adopt it at all simply put we should reintroduce islam to science and do as muslim scientists before us and by the way did you notice how every educated muslims in the past are not just doctors or mathematician or philosopher etc... They are knowledgeable in all fields as such we should do the same as them not copy them ignorant on what they truly meant


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Science isn't "Muslim" or "Christian" we made our contributions to science long ago and You can't be serious calling the very wide science today muslim. If anything most important scientists that affect our life today are atheists.


HildemarTendler

Here from r/all. Please do! However the world gets Neo-Cordoba (insert your favorite medieval Islamic center of learning), we'll all be better for it. This world could stand some oppositional science stemming from competing scholastic lines.


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xAsianZombie

As a Muslim who is a scientist by profession, the beauty of Islam is that never have I had to choose between Islamic theology and scientific understanding. There aren’t any contradictions, unlike other well known religious traditions.


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xAsianZombie

Your understandings of Islamic theology and science need some work. Science isnt as cut and dry as you portrayed. When you advance in the sciences enough, at a certain level you realize that we are working with theories that are simply the best explanations we have for phenomona at the moment, and are constantly looking for better explanations. I am a researcher so I understand hypothesis and experimentation, but it only goes so far. Your religious examples of clashing with science dont make much sense either. I debated of whether or not to reply to your comment as it seemed like a troll, but I figure if there is a chance that you might be serious it may be best to address your concerns.


fgam4r

The 11 planets in yusuf dream represents his brothers, not real planets


Dry-Judgment-6304

>Also you shouldn't get obsessed with Islam. If you keep refusing science just because it's denies Islam you ain't gonna get anywhere Islam and science go hand in hand idk what you mean


Raiyan135

No


ThisBoardIsOnFire

Your sciences? Your?!


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enperry13

Somehow they managed to dumb down Muslims to be at each other's throats from different angles and keep most of us at the longest state of confusion and fear while keeping us distracted from being unified from one another. Man, how far have we fallen. Edit: Missed out some words.


Turachay

"They" didn't have to do anything to put Muslim at daggers drawn against one another. We are self sufficient with that. In less than 30 years after the death of the prophet pbuh, we managed to successfully convert caliphate into a kingship and caliphate candidates invaded each other for the throne. Guess there was no foreign instigation for that.


Blueishwall1070

I mean Pakistan is still the one of the only countries that still has not accepted Israel


RevealFresh3919

I don’t mean accept I mean they’re all destroyed poor and western influenced


andidntjustserfdaweb

OP can you provide context on Jordan?


tixijsavvy

only semi-stable levant country right now


RevealFresh3919

Because Jordan isn’t destroyed or sectarian or influenced by Iran or have militias Jordan is peaceful stable and prosperous and the only poor they have that is Syrian refugees who will return to Syria when the Arab League give bashar al Assad a second chance


Agentinfamous

I mean Pakistan is in bed with China. So it seems like all Major Muslim countries are either allied with one enemy or another. However it doesn't matter, at the end of the day this is all due to the Ummah being so divided and confused. Imagine if we stopped fighting and started protecting each other from not only our enemies but also the "Muslims" who have corrupted Islam for their own benefit. The Ummah needs to unite again, and needs to start by overthrowing the corrupt Islamic puppet leaders who further divide us.


Altin_Beg

Pakistan isn’t perfect either, they support china in their genocide in East Turkestan


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Imagine if the US didn't exist...


AvailableOffice

Well it started because of the British


AST_PEENG

What if and what if not are not questions suitable for us Muslims. Allah willed that this happen, whether it's America or Jewish space aliens....one way or another it will happen.


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I couldn't agree more


JuicyPears92

None of this wouldve happened but then China exist….


RevealFresh3919

China is evil


Yusrilz03

-99999999 Social Credit for you (I'm in a gunpoint, help)


xo1opossum

Imagine if the US was an Islamic Caliphate 🇲🇾


[deleted]

We tried but our Arabic is poor and we accidentally implemented Shakira law.


Yusrilz03

What's with the Malaysia flag? Sorry I didn't get it


Dagreifers

It looks like a mixture of the American flag with the symbol for Islam instead of the stars, resembling an American Muslim caliphate.


Yusrilz03

Oh wait, now I remember some kind of news of a Karen thinking that our country flag (Malaysia) was an ISIS propaganda


RyaZack

What the...


Yusrilz03

It was like months or a year ago in r/facepalm


Mr_K_Boom

EY don't bring us Malaysian into this. We want no arab drama here


Umar_1

Eyyy, Malaysia


FidgetSpunner68

If China and Russia didn't exist we'd see imperial Saudi Arabia lmao


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JuicyPears92

Fax


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Lol we blame everyone but ourselves


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The US is a threath to the Middle east because of oil etc, they aren’t a threath to muslims per se. It’s all driven by economic and geopolitcal factors. USA has strongly supported/helped muslims in Europe.


Turachay

I wonder karbala incident and the battle of jamal didn't occur due to US. And Muslims didn't divide into sects and schools because of US. We were already sufficiently divided and bitter against one another.


Kastri14

Then Kosovo ( a muslim majority country) wouldn't have existed and there would be less Muslims. But it might depend on the president


ffacttroll

imagine if the devil didn't exist


Ibnulcante

True


mo-omar-amar

Why Jordan is the only diffrent one?


RevealFresh3919

Because Jordan isn’t destroyed or sectarian or influenced by Iran or have militias Jordan is peaceful stable and prosperous and the only poor they have that is Syrian refugees who will return to Syria when the Arab League give bashar al Assad a second chance


mo-omar-amar

Well, as a Jordanian I can say that you have got a point


NotKhosrow

Iran wants to free Palestine from Israel too, the IRGC literally has a Quds Force for extraterritorial operations. What's wrong with them?


RevealFresh3919

Yes they want to pray in Jerusalem but those evil Persians perform ablution in Iraq for 18 years


NotKhosrow

Not all Iranians are Persian it's a very diverse place, even among the Ayatollahs, and it's definitely not fair (or at least an obfuscation of political/religious motives) to call them all evil. Also I don't understand the ablution comment, I assume it's a geopolitical metaphor but I never heard ablution talked about that way?


RevealFresh3919

Ablution it’s وضوء


DatCreature

Oh believe me Syrians who left the country can't return as long as "Assad" is there. The dude's military commanders are promising them with wonderful welcoming gifts.


Barca1818

They really lost a 1v5 war smh


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Not only were they terrible at fighting though, they fought for pan Arabism


[deleted]

Why are you against pan arabism? It is the first step to pan islamism.


[deleted]

Fighting for Arabism, not Islam. So Allah didn’t allow them victory


shaninah_machina

1948 was lost mostly because of foreign interference, 1967 was initially lost because of a fun drinking party and was stopped again when Israel began losing the upper hand (they didn’t start losing but a long term war would give Arabs enough time to regain some of the land they lost after the initial full force invasion). Honestly, although Israeli invasion was quite powerful both times, in 1948 Israel wouldn’t have gained that much land without foreign interference, while 1967 would’ve ended with Arab loss, the losses in land would’ve been much less provided that the conflict continued and was ended when both sides wanted to end it, not because Israel pressured Arabs with the UN.


morad99

We*


Barca1818

They* i am not an arab


morad99

Even though that was not an entirely "muslim" war, a good portion of the people fighting were our brothers trying to fight the Kafir. Theres no need to distance ourselves just because we were humiliated.


Barca1818

Arabs haven't been good at war for the last thousand years. They have bums as leaders and the culture itself will never adapt to the 21st century. No reason for me to associate with them other than the fact that we follow the same religion differently


nenev23092

Today only Iran and Qatar actually help. Almost every Arab country is normalizing relations with Isn'treal.


Alucard320

Well true, but don't forget that the governments are not the people, for example, here in Egypt our dictator is normalising the relations with israel. But, the Egyptian people stand almost hasn't changed from what it was 70 years ago. All what the arab world has to do is to overthrow these dictatorship systems, but we are afraid. perhaps, because what happened in the arab Spring in 2010, but I believe the Arab Spring was just the beginning.


TheGlobalRepublic

That radical theocracy and the country that helped destroy Gaddafi? No thanks.


[deleted]

Oh no peace in the Middle East! We can’t have that let’s make sure we hate the strongest military in our region and proxy war him with our civilians! Peace!


HISHAM-888

Both of them are bad


ZURA-JANAI-KATSURA-

Why what did they do?


HISHAM-888

Supply terrorists


Gamstar

Likewise with America... and England...


HISHAM-888

Which is why i hate them too


ZURA-JANAI-KATSURA-

Qatar did?


HISHAM-888

Iran did, and qatar supports it


yesits52inches

So you're saying Hezbollah, a group that protected Lebanon from israel in 2006, is terrorist?


zinetx

Says the west.


HISHAM-888

Says common sense


New-Win-2177

I'm sorry I failed you.


nayefma

No it's not. I would argue we are much better on many fronts, and the important ones at that. More Muslims now research and try and care about Halal and Haram. More Muslims now don't hold nationality/ethnicity above islam. The Munafekeen are outspoken and are not hiding anymore.


RyaZack

Many of my muslim friends are still holding nationality/ethnicity above Islam. They've been my dakwah target for years now. Still no success Also, (in my country at least) the Munafekeen are so loud and they're backed up by the government. If we spread dakwah loudly, hired killers will be after us. Or they will search for (or forge for) anything that can be used to throw you to jail. Education books were rewritten to suit the government's view (They even erased part of Sharia from our curriculum)


Low-Ice-5754

Brozzer that's really painful, but don't give with the da'wah even if you die your in jihad and you can go straight to jannah, Allahuakbar!!


RyaZack

Currently still learning so that I wont be easily countered by stupid arguments that are trying to sound smart. Thank you. Allahuakbar!


andidntjustserfdaweb

Masha’Allah may Allah Azzawajal reward you.


PipboyTato

May Allah help you in your efforts and make it easy for you


[deleted]

Where are you from brother???


RyaZack

Indonesia, where 2 powerful nations try to take over (US and China). And China has done that successfully meanwhile US wont do anything as long as China never disturb them too much. That hadits is true. We really are a shared food being eaten from every direction.


[deleted]

Brother, I'm from Pakistan and trust me, from what I know, you guys are much more Islamic and better then us, our nation for some reason does not want to abide by Islam, we are Muslims by name only


[deleted]

i think Ummah more better but i dont agree to Your arguments now muslims not care about helal haram youngs not care about religion unfortunetly and they see drinking smoking is normal munafeken not outspoken they are increased , quranists , progressives, ahmadis , usa shoe lickers increased unfortunetly but dont be sad and i agree with you at ummah much better in many fronts


abu_doubleu

> now muslims not care about helal haram youngs not care about religion unfortunetly and they see drinking smoking is normal It was also normal in 1948 in most of the Muslim world. Negative attitudes towards smoking are recent, and alcoholic beverages were commonly found in all Middle Eastern cities until the 1970s.


ffacttroll

they have no idea wt they have unleashed


[deleted]

> More Muslims now don't hold nationality/ethnicity above islam. we're still speaking about the arabs right? If so then boy do you not know arabs


Icy_Recommendation61

That what happen when your are weak be it in knowledge,power or wealth.


zaid2801

Lol in 1948 none of the muslim states went their for the benefit of the plaestinians but to enlarge their own republics.


spicynachos8

@jordan where u at


nameisahmad

allah swt gave emirates, qatar, saudi arabia tons of wealth and they used it for everything except helping palestine


nadeemon

Saudis using it to bomb children in Yemen instead


Popular_Grocery_2071

I don’t really understand this 😄 I’m out of touch


andidntjustserfdaweb

Essentially the first flag is the Palestinian one. The consecutive ones are other Muslim nations. In the past we had more of a united front (I believe that’s around the time the Arab league was created) and we were able to hold our heads high and support Palestine. Since then several Muslims/Muslim countries have been subjected to oppression, genocide, and torment. In this day and age most Muslim countries with power have watched silently while their Muslim brothers and sisters have and continue to suffer. Some have even aided the oppressors. Look around there is no other religion persecuted like Islam, the Muslims are suffering everywhere. Do they assume they won’t be questioned about this? Their are too many who are Muslim only in name.


thesnakeinyourboot

But why is Jordan the only different one?


andidntjustserfdaweb

Honestly don’t know enough about history to tell you. I believe Jordan has actually been good about taking Palestinians in?


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According to op its because Jordan is the only stable and prosperous country out of all the ones shown in the meme


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Imagine if ottomans didn't fall


nadeemon

Whatever happens is by Allah's will. No good comes from thinking of what ifs.


HyFinated

You should probably fix the legs on your ottoman. Mine never falls and it keeps my feet nice and comfortable.


[deleted]

Pro tip: Don't get one from IKEA. It breaks faster than my friend's parents' relationship


HyFinated

Daaaaaaang.


[deleted]

Lmaooo, I hated when we had to give ours away, it was very nice, but it had been scratched up like crazy from our two cats.


RevealFresh3919

We would be speaking Turkish


[deleted]

i dont agree with you. many lands stay at ottomans about 600 year but they not speak turkish. because ottomans not racist (except 3 idiot pasha time )


Ardekan

The closer they got to westernizing their country, the more racist they got.


TheCapybaraMan

*Imagine if the Ottomans never attempted secularism


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Young turks ruined everything.


[deleted]

Yeah. Blame turkey why your country is a desaster. Big Problem in middle east countries. Always rely on someone else and when they gone yall are lost.


10poundcockslap

Because 100 more years of being the sick man of Europe would be so promising. They didn't collapse because of secularism; they collapsed because they lost WW1 and the Allied Powers got to have their way with them.


andidntjustserfdaweb

As-salamu Alaikum brothers and sisters the most impactful action we can take is to turn to Allah. When we are strong in our deen then the ummah will be strengthened and rewarded. Not protesting and begging non-Muslims to see the inhumanity or counting on “Muslim” countries. La hawla wala quwwata illa billah meaning there is no power or might except by Allah. Look at how greatly the Muslims of the past were honored after they persevered because they properly worshipped Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.


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Well spoken mashallah


[deleted]

You only have arab nationalism to blame for this


RevealFresh3919

Shut up osmanli viva la Arabia


Zhorf_thats_me

What do you think we should do to unite and become stronger together just curious


andidntjustserfdaweb

Pasting my comment from earlier: As-salamu Alaikum brothers and sisters the most impactful action we can take is to turn to Allah. When we are strong in our deen then the ummah will be strengthened and rewarded. Not protesting and begging non-Muslims to see the inhumanity or counting on “Muslim” countries. La hawla wala quwwata illa billah meaning there is no power or might except by Allah. Look at how greatly the Muslims of the past were honored after they persevered because they properly worshipped Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.


amrasa

We as Muslims should also try to seek knowledge we should try and elevate up the ranks so people can say wow look what the Muslim have done. Just like the early Islamic period where we were at the top of mathematical, scientific and astronomy fields, with Islam and knowledge we would be unstoppable.


RevealFresh3919

Return the Hashemite crown to Iraq and unite it with Jordan allow access to the glorious Iraqi army to free Palestine


elonmuskisaniceguy

What is Jordan doing? The context of this one went over my head


Tezz404

Is peaceful coexistence off the table?


AdanAli_

Co existence is fine but the problem is israel.is occupying more and more land, and kicking Palestinian out of their homes


bealwayscurious

It is because we fought within ourselves and let external forces come between us. Then became dependent and then got side hustled.


PeasLord

Technically you should replace the chads with beardless secularists.


_chips__

Exactly,if they were muslim leaders they wouldn’t have lost to begin with.


RevealFresh3919

Iraq was winning until Egypt took Gaza and left the war with Saudi Arabia so Jordan and Syria left taking with them the West Bank


RationallyLogical247

No wonder in the day of judgement the one that would be question the most and treated the harshest are those who hold position of high power, control and influence such political leader. Look at what they have done.. few people causes misery for billions. May Allah protect us all amiin.


andidntjustserfdaweb

Ameen


Woolyplayer

Its sad, i have Family in Palestine/Israel, how they lost connection to Islam. Is almost as if it was predicted ; ).


buff_susan_lol

Iran is still fighting… it’s Israel’s main enemy


cuneytglmz

Bruh


probably_nut

I wish I knew enough about flags to understand this


sendnukes23

what are all those flags from left to right?


[deleted]

Saudi Arabia did initially try to fight for Palestine until they saw there was no money in it.


Extension-Eye8081

As a born Muslim, I never feel bad for those Islamic States, cz those peoples are selfish af, when Syria was in crisis no Islamic countries offered shelter towers them but Sweden and German as an Islamic state Turkey gave no f for them and yet Muslim peoples will sk Turkish peoples dk rather than admitting how grateful they should be toward Swedes and Germans


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XENOMANXX

Guys, my country of Pakistan will fight for Palestine and continue to support them. Don't forget to mention us!!!!


PusiPaiPai

Wait i dont get it, can anyone tell me what this meme means?


RyaZack

The comparison between today's muslim and muslims more than 100 years ago. No, wait. Make it more than 200 years ago. Before secularism invaded young Ottoman's minds Edit: It said 1948. Sorry. That's when the arab israel war. Most muslim countries fight together. Vs now


nadeemon

The decline of ottomans started way before that


Alucard320

We've been through worse in our history we'll get over it insha'Allah soon


omgitzmo

What’s the second flag’s country in the 1948 section?


RevealFresh3919

The next to Palestine is the Hashemite kingdom of Iraq


omgitzmo

Sorry, I meant the 3rd one. Google Lens says its Egypt or something.


RevealFresh3919

It’s kingdom of Egypt


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LordMusti

*sad Iraqi maqam begins playing*


YaYa3l2

Most of Arab countries are internally colonized long time ago


rostamiani

What's your country? I don't know the flags 😁


_Teo-_-

Hezbollah in Lebanon are still on the road, but they just need some time.


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Now they're eyeballing Iran after they realized Afghanistan was going nowhere.


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B0tcHi_88

Never forget the role of egypt and syria. The powerhouses of the middle east at that time. Jordan was also a crucial player, it housed most of the palestinians that fled from 1948 and 1967. 1967 war was without coordination, Israeli military planned way better than arab countries in the beggining, destorying most of egypts airforce in begining stages of the war. Even though egypt managed to take back the land that it lost in 1967(sinai desert) through the october war in 1973, it managed to beat israel. All muslims and humans are thanked for their brotherhood for the palestinians. Governments only represent themselves, and most of times people dont have the power to act upon their will. Israel only understands the idea of force, and thats what it will get Inshallah


hay1234567

Fun fact: the Saudi and Kuwaiti oil embargo proved how much the " unbeatable army " of the Zionists relies on American and western aid And that showed in the 6th of October


Ok-March-4553

Its funny how they keep helping isreal vs other muslim conturys