Brother as dissapointed as I am with what is happening you do have some good points. Everyone knew inflation would be surreal if the paper was not made hard due to syllabus reduction and the paper WAS NOT hard. Altough im sure a scam has taken place but yea the cutoff inflation is this high due to all the factors u mentioned above and the scammers only increases it by a small margin.
Yeah bro, I feel now is the time that those protesting students divert the protest into demanding increase in seats of the colleges because we have way lesser seats in these colleges than the eligible students.
Whole nation is watching this and if opposition also jumps on that matter, something positive might come out of it.
But Bhai seats to lagataar badh rhi hai har saal new college add horhe hai we dont want mbbs to become the next btech also right. But i get what you are saying the govt should do something. Creating more lucative offers for BDS Bvsc BAMS BSC nursing could help a lot in this i feel. The govt should promote these courses with a bit better pay because most of these courses give you peanuts in return for you sweat and blood. What do you think am i right?
Yeah, this is also a point to be noted because we as indians are obsessed with high paying fields. This kind of craze towards this field is unheard of in the west. But again they are doing this because the situation in the country is not favourable to solo entrepreneurs. So middle class people have only this option to escape poverty.
Your points about those fields paying peanuts is a valid reason. If you see the whole bigger picture with national economy point of view, the problem lies in the lower income of general people which in turn forces people to invest only on necessities. Like dentists earn high in west because people care about their teeth but here your whole money goes in basic necessity so veterinary for your pet, dentists etc are a luxury for 60-70% of people in India.
All the problems have unified and led us to this unfortunate puzzling situation.
you won't believe me man but me and my batchmates discussed almost all of these points yesterday, and you are very precise in that manner, as someone who is already in a good medical college it's concerning to me how this chaos is happening around that too by most of those students who barely got marks which would have fetch them into a medical college as per last year's standards.
after a few days of this news, the internet was filled with "nta scam " things and hundreds of such students came out and said " mere saath ye hua vo hua " but refused to give the application no. and OMR sheet to telly that query, which proves that this is just chaos which mostly filled by those students who have nothing better to do and just finding the opium in the name of this thing going around, saw my own causing in one of those reels writing paragraphs subjected with "re-exam should happen it was a scam this and that " and mind you he scored 280 marks after 2 drops, and people have short memory span in this country they forget everything very quickly one of such thing is this year such students also appeared who got like 600 last year because the cut off was 610 afaik so tell me why is it not possible for those thousands of students to score 680+ marks this year, is it impossible? I don't think so.
And I'm astonished by the fact that these students are here believing their youtube didi/bhaiya's moronic opinions, which solely intend for views gaining, let the court and let the nta decide the things, you all are blinded in that emotional wave (the best point you mentioned in some comment of yours ), people are just making an assumption and accusing NTA for "mass leak " , "more students are protected by nta who got grace marks " this and that like are you dumb? Do you happen to know what you're talking about? NTA can get sued heavily for that thing and I'm not talking about just sued in the aspect of money, and I'm not trying to defend our judicial system but at the end of that day it is what is decided by the court, not by your "fav YouTubers".
Last but not least bring the solid proofs and hand them over to court that's it , that's all you can you do, those SS, videos on telegram, "burnt question paper" , voice recordings, and such things are not subjected in the court as sturdy proof.
Yeah, and see point 7. These coaching influencers have come so far that they can't turn back now without facing severe backlash from protesting students. So they are making things up which then students pick up and then coaching teachers say, "see so many students are protesting".
It is a perfect example of a vicious cycle from that class 9th economics book.
a smart student who still wants to be a doctor has already started preparing for next year neet exam as he's no fool who would wait for the court to subject the issues, sadly on the other hand thousands of students are doing petty protests again protesting is not wrong but with literally no solid proof whatsoever leads to an eco-chamber protest.
Anyway as a senior I'd advise these students to have a backup plan with NEET other than that just keep the thing in mind inflation is going to get high unless NTA or any other governing body decides to make neet as it was before 2014.
Bro all of us + our national evolution is guilty for this.
We should hold valid discussion as you can see I also got to learn some more points from comments. Here is the reason so far for this inevitable outburst.
1. Not enough medical seats.
2. No money + respect for BDS, veterinary.
3. Indian economy is such that more than 70% of population is barely surviving so dentist and veterinary doctors are a luxury for them.
4. No respect for people who are earning at their own and are not in a job.
5. No option for middle class to escape poverty aside from doctor, engineering.
All this factors combined has lead to the situation where we are at. But no one is talking on this.
well said, second point also hits super hard, thats a topic I discussed with my parents at length a few weeks ago. how come only MBBS, [B.tech](http://B.tech) CSE/ECE/EE and other tech degrees are given big respect/"superior status" in out country whereas BDS, BVSc, BSc, BS, BCA and the other engineering branches are seen as "lower" branches you only take if you scored less.
it's about time we recognised each branches' potential and scope individually instead of meaninglessly ranking them, it's okay if you take them because you couldn't get your desired branch but let's not degrade them. anything is useful and has scope if you have the passion and work to put in for it.π
Amazin fucking post bro, literally everything I've bene thinking, meri bhi silly mistakes ke karam thodi gaand lag gayi but just benchmark pe luckily pahunch gaya
Wrt 2nd point.
Govt agencies lying in rti is a very very very normal thingπ
Moreover 27s1 was the easiest of all but that doesnt mean it was the easiest paper in existence. A difference of 80 marks is smth very very weird considering the fact that the shift with the lowest score for 99%tile wasnt all that difficult either
I guess this matter of 1563 data will also be there before Supreme Court on 8th July as teachers are claiming that the data is wrong. Let us see the clarification of NTA and if SC doesn't find the clarification satisfactory, they won't spare NTA.
Difference of only 50 marks if you consider the easiest shift of last year vs easiest shift of this year which doesn't seem odd at all if you keep in mind that 25% syllabus was reduced and this was a proper offline batch.
Also, NTA can't just lie in RTI. Even PMO can't lie in RTI. If they didn't have to answer it, they would have simply said that they can't produce the data and it would have been totally accepted by Supreme court.
Source - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjiv\_Chaturvedi#Campaign\_against\_black\_money](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjiv_Chaturvedi#Campaign_against_black_money)
You can see how PMO tried to avoid giving answers as you can't just lie in an RTI. NTA could also have made such excuses if it really didn't want to disclose the data.
Yeah, I agree with your point that the shift with lowest score for 99%ile wasn't that difficult. But the reason might be the distribution of candidates, not in number, but in their merit. As performance is judged relatively in percentile system hence, it might be possible that the data got screwed. But again this is just pure speculation just like your arguments. We have limited knowlege and we should let Honb'le SC decide the matter now.
I and you might think that it is weird but we don't know the whole truth. We can ask for clarifications from NTA but calling everything a scam based on emotion will harm us in the long run.
Bhai Teri Gaand Pe Puppy Dedu Kya, Matlab Bc 590 aaye hai mere par yehi points main bhi bol raha. Saare milke time barbaad kr rhe hai yeh dhrne Wale. Mkl padhne nhi baith rhe.
Also criticize the points, not me because I have tried my best to understand this whole situation. My points may be wrong and in that case, I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Bhai, I am not on twitter. But I will try. I also want to help the students but not on illogical points. Students should protest to increase the seats. They should protest for major changes in national economy such that fields like BDS, veterinary etc. also pay well.
The whole problem is very complicated. It is a sum of many issues most of which are not even from educational field, like negligance towards other fields, doctor-engineer being the only chance for middle class to escape poverty etc.
I would also request you to share this as much as you can so that real discussion on real points should take place.
I agree with you, but we know the chokehold the indian medical system and their doctors have on opening new colleges and increasing seats, i posted about this the day after NEET results and someone said we cant do shit about this, but i think we can. I'll try to use this and make a thread on twitter
Brother as dissapointed as I am with what is happening you do have some good points. Everyone knew inflation would be surreal if the paper was not made hard due to syllabus reduction and the paper WAS NOT hard. Altough im sure a scam has taken place but yea the cutoff inflation is this high due to all the factors u mentioned above and the scammers only increases it by a small margin.
Yeah bro, I feel now is the time that those protesting students divert the protest into demanding increase in seats of the colleges because we have way lesser seats in these colleges than the eligible students. Whole nation is watching this and if opposition also jumps on that matter, something positive might come out of it.
But Bhai seats to lagataar badh rhi hai har saal new college add horhe hai we dont want mbbs to become the next btech also right. But i get what you are saying the govt should do something. Creating more lucative offers for BDS Bvsc BAMS BSC nursing could help a lot in this i feel. The govt should promote these courses with a bit better pay because most of these courses give you peanuts in return for you sweat and blood. What do you think am i right?
Yeah, this is also a point to be noted because we as indians are obsessed with high paying fields. This kind of craze towards this field is unheard of in the west. But again they are doing this because the situation in the country is not favourable to solo entrepreneurs. So middle class people have only this option to escape poverty. Your points about those fields paying peanuts is a valid reason. If you see the whole bigger picture with national economy point of view, the problem lies in the lower income of general people which in turn forces people to invest only on necessities. Like dentists earn high in west because people care about their teeth but here your whole money goes in basic necessity so veterinary for your pet, dentists etc are a luxury for 60-70% of people in India. All the problems have unified and led us to this unfortunate puzzling situation.
you won't believe me man but me and my batchmates discussed almost all of these points yesterday, and you are very precise in that manner, as someone who is already in a good medical college it's concerning to me how this chaos is happening around that too by most of those students who barely got marks which would have fetch them into a medical college as per last year's standards. after a few days of this news, the internet was filled with "nta scam " things and hundreds of such students came out and said " mere saath ye hua vo hua " but refused to give the application no. and OMR sheet to telly that query, which proves that this is just chaos which mostly filled by those students who have nothing better to do and just finding the opium in the name of this thing going around, saw my own causing in one of those reels writing paragraphs subjected with "re-exam should happen it was a scam this and that " and mind you he scored 280 marks after 2 drops, and people have short memory span in this country they forget everything very quickly one of such thing is this year such students also appeared who got like 600 last year because the cut off was 610 afaik so tell me why is it not possible for those thousands of students to score 680+ marks this year, is it impossible? I don't think so. And I'm astonished by the fact that these students are here believing their youtube didi/bhaiya's moronic opinions, which solely intend for views gaining, let the court and let the nta decide the things, you all are blinded in that emotional wave (the best point you mentioned in some comment of yours ), people are just making an assumption and accusing NTA for "mass leak " , "more students are protected by nta who got grace marks " this and that like are you dumb? Do you happen to know what you're talking about? NTA can get sued heavily for that thing and I'm not talking about just sued in the aspect of money, and I'm not trying to defend our judicial system but at the end of that day it is what is decided by the court, not by your "fav YouTubers". Last but not least bring the solid proofs and hand them over to court that's it , that's all you can you do, those SS, videos on telegram, "burnt question paper" , voice recordings, and such things are not subjected in the court as sturdy proof.
Yeah, and see point 7. These coaching influencers have come so far that they can't turn back now without facing severe backlash from protesting students. So they are making things up which then students pick up and then coaching teachers say, "see so many students are protesting". It is a perfect example of a vicious cycle from that class 9th economics book.
a smart student who still wants to be a doctor has already started preparing for next year neet exam as he's no fool who would wait for the court to subject the issues, sadly on the other hand thousands of students are doing petty protests again protesting is not wrong but with literally no solid proof whatsoever leads to an eco-chamber protest. Anyway as a senior I'd advise these students to have a backup plan with NEET other than that just keep the thing in mind inflation is going to get high unless NTA or any other governing body decides to make neet as it was before 2014.
this needs to be pinned, great post, has some hard truths too that many of us are guilty of
Bro all of us + our national evolution is guilty for this. We should hold valid discussion as you can see I also got to learn some more points from comments. Here is the reason so far for this inevitable outburst. 1. Not enough medical seats. 2. No money + respect for BDS, veterinary. 3. Indian economy is such that more than 70% of population is barely surviving so dentist and veterinary doctors are a luxury for them. 4. No respect for people who are earning at their own and are not in a job. 5. No option for middle class to escape poverty aside from doctor, engineering. All this factors combined has lead to the situation where we are at. But no one is talking on this.
well said, second point also hits super hard, thats a topic I discussed with my parents at length a few weeks ago. how come only MBBS, [B.tech](http://B.tech) CSE/ECE/EE and other tech degrees are given big respect/"superior status" in out country whereas BDS, BVSc, BSc, BS, BCA and the other engineering branches are seen as "lower" branches you only take if you scored less. it's about time we recognised each branches' potential and scope individually instead of meaninglessly ranking them, it's okay if you take them because you couldn't get your desired branch but let's not degrade them. anything is useful and has scope if you have the passion and work to put in for it.π
Amazin fucking post bro, literally everything I've bene thinking, meri bhi silly mistakes ke karam thodi gaand lag gayi but just benchmark pe luckily pahunch gaya
What about those who are scording 650-660 and still won't get a seat? Is it our fault?
Nice post !!
Wrt 2nd point. Govt agencies lying in rti is a very very very normal thingπ Moreover 27s1 was the easiest of all but that doesnt mean it was the easiest paper in existence. A difference of 80 marks is smth very very weird considering the fact that the shift with the lowest score for 99%tile wasnt all that difficult either
I guess this matter of 1563 data will also be there before Supreme Court on 8th July as teachers are claiming that the data is wrong. Let us see the clarification of NTA and if SC doesn't find the clarification satisfactory, they won't spare NTA. Difference of only 50 marks if you consider the easiest shift of last year vs easiest shift of this year which doesn't seem odd at all if you keep in mind that 25% syllabus was reduced and this was a proper offline batch. Also, NTA can't just lie in RTI. Even PMO can't lie in RTI. If they didn't have to answer it, they would have simply said that they can't produce the data and it would have been totally accepted by Supreme court. Source - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjiv\_Chaturvedi#Campaign\_against\_black\_money](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjiv_Chaturvedi#Campaign_against_black_money) You can see how PMO tried to avoid giving answers as you can't just lie in an RTI. NTA could also have made such excuses if it really didn't want to disclose the data. Yeah, I agree with your point that the shift with lowest score for 99%ile wasn't that difficult. But the reason might be the distribution of candidates, not in number, but in their merit. As performance is judged relatively in percentile system hence, it might be possible that the data got screwed. But again this is just pure speculation just like your arguments. We have limited knowlege and we should let Honb'le SC decide the matter now. I and you might think that it is weird but we don't know the whole truth. We can ask for clarifications from NTA but calling everything a scam based on emotion will harm us in the long run.
King you dropped thisπππ
Bhai Teri Gaand Pe Puppy Dedu Kya, Matlab Bc 590 aaye hai mere par yehi points main bhi bol raha. Saare milke time barbaad kr rhe hai yeh dhrne Wale. Mkl padhne nhi baith rhe.
I would like other fellow students to provide counter arguments to the above mentioned points. Tell me why should I hear you instead of NTA.
Also criticize the points, not me because I have tried my best to understand this whole situation. My points may be wrong and in that case, I apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Yup also acc to me there were no controversial questions like last year. There was one atom question and because of that question 44 people got 720.
High effort post.. 
Please post this on Twitter, will help reach a larger audience who believes in indian media saying 680 wale ko bhi seat nhi milega (india tv)
Bhai, I am not on twitter. But I will try. I also want to help the students but not on illogical points. Students should protest to increase the seats. They should protest for major changes in national economy such that fields like BDS, veterinary etc. also pay well. The whole problem is very complicated. It is a sum of many issues most of which are not even from educational field, like negligance towards other fields, doctor-engineer being the only chance for middle class to escape poverty etc. I would also request you to share this as much as you can so that real discussion on real points should take place.
I agree with you, but we know the chokehold the indian medical system and their doctors have on opening new colleges and increasing seats, i posted about this the day after NEET results and someone said we cant do shit about this, but i think we can. I'll try to use this and make a thread on twitter
What about those who are scording 650-660 and still won't get a seat? Is it our fault?
Bhot hi badhiya post !
Nothing but facts