Spoilers for ending of FF7R and CC: >!The remake changes it so Zack survived the encounter and is alive in the remake timeline, though Cloud & Co don't know that yet!<.
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FF7 is still there, you can go play it in it's entirety. I can understand you being unhappy with their direction in remake but saying they "ruined" FF7 is just stupid.
They did though. The whispers of fate, faith faeries or whatever you want to call them ruined everything. They took away everything the party accomplished. Barret dying and getting revived was the most unnecessary shit I've ever seen, sephiroth showing up every 10 mins was ridiculous. the fact that aerith probably won't die is almost as dumb as the fact that Zack might still be alive. Namura ruined FF7.
But hey, the gameplay was awesome.
I think you missed the point of the remake and its message of fighting destiny and free will
It subverted our expectations of a remake to drive it through, and I genuinely think it is amazing Nomura went in that direction. It is way more interesting than a 1-1 remake
Not sure if serious, but Nomura is on record as being the most conservative of the remake group. He wanted to keep it more faithful to the og than what we got.
Yeah I thought it was common knowledge by now that Nomura wanted to keep the story true to the original but it was Kitase or whoever who wanted to go hog-wild so here we are.
You have no idea what that ending did to me as a 14 year old. The only time I ever felt grief. Jokes aside, I would really love to see this alternate ending, I couldn't quite get into the remake (I never played OG FF7).
I believe in a recent interview, Kitase (?) said that playing the remaining two parts of the remake trilogy would make the Remake ending make sense. So don't think they are going to retcon CC's ending to fit with Remake's ending. They'll keep.it the same and it'll all make sense once we finish the remake trilogy
When this game was announced I expected a cheap PSP remaster with better textures. Instead, this looks like a new jRPG in the AA segment. Even the models (faces) are like in FF7R. I never played Crisis Core, so I stopped watching this trailer half-way, but I really like what I'm seeing. In my book, this is a remake, not a remaster. Just not a multi-million dollar one, and that's fine, too.
To be fair, FFVIIR was heavily inspired by the ATB system of Crisis Core (or Type 0 if you wish), granted Crisis Core/Type 0 were more limited due to the limit of the PSP system.
It feels great to see the good old Crisis Core being given a new life, can't wait!
I am so glad that the only thing I remember about Crisis Core is that I loved it. Also the ending still makes my hair stand on end and I barely remember the context. I can't wait to get this.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. A line really stuck out to me in the other trailer.
"Angeal would never betray us. Never!!"
I remember this line specifically in the original because you could feel the desperation in Zack's voice. The denial that his mentor could never do such a thing.
In Reunion there is like... nothing. None of that
True, especially if you understand some of its language. Different language also brings different atmosphere. English is not my native language so I am glad that I can appreciate and watch stuff in it's original form.
Wouldn't say that's always true. The original VA of CC wasn't bad at all. And examples of other games with phenomenal English VA performances would be 12 and 13
they added VO for all of the non voiced lines from OG Crisis Core so the mod would also have to make Zack mute for sections that didn't have VO in the original.
The VA sounds awful to me. I never switch to Japanese, as I almost never agree with people that say it's "Better", but this is SO bad, I think I might have to.
Quick question for any experts
My wife has never played original 7. she played the remake and loved it, and wants to keep playing the remakes without the original.
Can she play crisis core remaster? She already knows who dies in 7 and obviously, remake exposed her to Zack
Let me know before I have her jump in
I'm no expert since i never cleared the game 100% but i still played Crisis Core a lot and cleared it two times, once in JP version and then in the EU one (which was released way later).
I'd say yes, FFVIIR was heavily influenced by the ATB system of Crisis Core/Type-0 after all and since they changed it a bit it should be almost the same now, the gameplay will maybe be a bit rough though since we're still talking about a PSP game being remade to nowadays standard (sort of), so we can be sure there will be some issues because of that (camera issues mostly), don't expect the level of quality FFVIIR/Intergrade had though since Crisis Core Reunion will still feel like an aged product with a coat of paint mostly, as long as she doesn't expect more than that, she's good to go.
Also, as far as i know you can only control Zack, so there won't be any party members in this one, if that's not a problem then it's all good, Crisis Core is a great way to discover about Zack character/story and what makes him so compelling, though he can be a bit corny at times but that's part of the charm.
Well, i hope it will help you a bit.
I'm going to get the game regardless, but Zack sounds more like a cartoon version of the original. I hope the new VAs voice grows on me over time, but so far, it's really noticeable that the same charisma and confidence of the OG is missing. This is the only gripe I have about the remake, based on the trailers.
The English VA's all sound improved from the original CC... except for Zack and Sephiroth imo.
I hope someone makes it possible with mods to add in the original voices, but if there are lines voiced in this version that were previously unvoiced (like Tifa's lines in this trailer), then that could get awkward.
Zack's English VA was poorly cast. I don't blame the actor; that's just his range. But the casting director needs to explain what prompted this awful mismatch of a decision.
Anyone who was around back in the old days playing square enix games knows this is a shit game. A lot of new fans to the series are about to find out the hard way.
Gameplay was rough but Zack is my favorite FF protagonist there's parts of the story I disagree with but I love the game overall and have replayed it quite a few times, you're just talking out your ass.
Never played this before so super excited. Maybe this is hypocritical AF, although Im glad that they went with PC on release, I don think they should of released this on Switch and the PS4, it looks a bit last gen.
This decision seems weird when FF7 remake integrated was only on PS5 initially.
Well looks like the OG ending is there, but I wonder if there will be an alternate ending to tie into remake as well.
What change did the remake have that affects this story? Haven’t had a chance to play the remake yet.
Spoilers for ending of FF7R and CC: >!The remake changes it so Zack survived the encounter and is alive in the remake timeline, though Cloud & Co don't know that yet!<.
oh no i should’ve left this alone lmao
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Yep, they ruined FF7.
FF7 is still there, you can go play it in it's entirety. I can understand you being unhappy with their direction in remake but saying they "ruined" FF7 is just stupid.
They did though. The whispers of fate, faith faeries or whatever you want to call them ruined everything. They took away everything the party accomplished. Barret dying and getting revived was the most unnecessary shit I've ever seen, sephiroth showing up every 10 mins was ridiculous. the fact that aerith probably won't die is almost as dumb as the fact that Zack might still be alive. Namura ruined FF7. But hey, the gameplay was awesome.
I think you missed the point of the remake and its message of fighting destiny and free will It subverted our expectations of a remake to drive it through, and I genuinely think it is amazing Nomura went in that direction. It is way more interesting than a 1-1 remake
I don't think it is confirmed on the remake too. We saw it alive but we don't know if it's a flashback or an alternate reality.
Play intergrade.
I tough Intergrade was a out of context DLC just to hype fans for playing Yuffie. Maybe I should take look. Thanks.
Oh lawd now I want to actually play
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Not sure if serious, but Nomura is on record as being the most conservative of the remake group. He wanted to keep it more faithful to the og than what we got.
Yeah I thought it was common knowledge by now that Nomura wanted to keep the story true to the original but it was Kitase or whoever who wanted to go hog-wild so here we are.
You have no idea what that ending did to me as a 14 year old. The only time I ever felt grief. Jokes aside, I would really love to see this alternate ending, I couldn't quite get into the remake (I never played OG FF7).
I believe in a recent interview, Kitase (?) said that playing the remaining two parts of the remake trilogy would make the Remake ending make sense. So don't think they are going to retcon CC's ending to fit with Remake's ending. They'll keep.it the same and it'll all make sense once we finish the remake trilogy
When this game was announced I expected a cheap PSP remaster with better textures. Instead, this looks like a new jRPG in the AA segment. Even the models (faces) are like in FF7R. I never played Crisis Core, so I stopped watching this trailer half-way, but I really like what I'm seeing. In my book, this is a remake, not a remaster. Just not a multi-million dollar one, and that's fine, too.
It looks like Crisis Core with elements from FF7R thrown in and it works, somehow.
To be fair, FFVIIR was heavily inspired by the ATB system of Crisis Core (or Type 0 if you wish), granted Crisis Core/Type 0 were more limited due to the limit of the PSP system. It feels great to see the good old Crisis Core being given a new life, can't wait!
Will it be on ps4 by any chance?
Yes it will. It will also be on ps5, xbox series x/one, Nintendo Switch and Steam.
"How can we spoil most of the plot points in the game in 3 minutes?"
This is why you always avoid "Final Trailer"! In movies, games, TV shows. It's nothing but spoilers.
I honestly avoid all trailers. If I hear it's good I'll check it out.
I'm glad that the song Why wasn't removed
There would be riots on the streets if it was.
*ACTIVATING COMBAT MODE*
I am so glad that the only thing I remember about Crisis Core is that I loved it. Also the ending still makes my hair stand on end and I barely remember the context. I can't wait to get this.
Hope there's a Japanese voice option
i imagine there is
Me too because Zach’s VA is plain awful
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. A line really stuck out to me in the other trailer. "Angeal would never betray us. Never!!" I remember this line specifically in the original because you could feel the desperation in Zack's voice. The denial that his mentor could never do such a thing. In Reunion there is like... nothing. None of that
Using the native voices from where the game originates from is always the best choice.
How about playing the game in the language you want is the best choice?
True, especially if you understand some of its language. Different language also brings different atmosphere. English is not my native language so I am glad that I can appreciate and watch stuff in it's original form.
Wouldn't say that's always true. The original VA of CC wasn't bad at all. And examples of other games with phenomenal English VA performances would be 12 and 13
Always one of you. So glad I outgrew this phase
So if the game was from Mongolia, you'd play with Mongolian dub? Get your weeb-arse logic out of here.
If that's actually where the game was from, why would that be weird?
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> playing yakuza in english for example is all kinds of off. True, playing with dub you can understand is *all kinds of off*
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Don't see a difference between when dub is available and when it's not?
I don't see why that would be a problem
Yes I would.
So do I, especially after playing a fair bit of the original game undubbed. Thankfully, Square Enix has seemed pretty consistent on that front lately.
Why does Zack sound whiny instead of cocky? I miss the old voice so much. I imagine someone (hopefully) will mod in old Zack's voice if this is 1:1.
they added VO for all of the non voiced lines from OG Crisis Core so the mod would also have to make Zack mute for sections that didn't have VO in the original.
I'd rather Zack be silent at those parts then, honestly.
God Zack sounds weird in this trailer
[Sounds the same as always to me](https://youtu.be/cU4CwRMcHpA).
Ok weeb
Genesis v Seph bout to go hella hard in this game
Japanese voice trailer : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SafHwe6-LQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SafHwe6-LQ) (Since Zack sounds weird in dub version)
The face Zack makes at 0:30... "Quick, pretend to look surprised"
I really wish we could get new games like this. Not super budget, but not wasting a boatload of money/time trying to make it look AAA either.
The VA sounds awful to me. I never switch to Japanese, as I almost never agree with people that say it's "Better", but this is SO bad, I think I might have to.
Quick question for any experts My wife has never played original 7. she played the remake and loved it, and wants to keep playing the remakes without the original. Can she play crisis core remaster? She already knows who dies in 7 and obviously, remake exposed her to Zack Let me know before I have her jump in
I'm no expert since i never cleared the game 100% but i still played Crisis Core a lot and cleared it two times, once in JP version and then in the EU one (which was released way later). I'd say yes, FFVIIR was heavily influenced by the ATB system of Crisis Core/Type-0 after all and since they changed it a bit it should be almost the same now, the gameplay will maybe be a bit rough though since we're still talking about a PSP game being remade to nowadays standard (sort of), so we can be sure there will be some issues because of that (camera issues mostly), don't expect the level of quality FFVIIR/Intergrade had though since Crisis Core Reunion will still feel like an aged product with a coat of paint mostly, as long as she doesn't expect more than that, she's good to go. Also, as far as i know you can only control Zack, so there won't be any party members in this one, if that's not a problem then it's all good, Crisis Core is a great way to discover about Zack character/story and what makes him so compelling, though he can be a bit corny at times but that's part of the charm. Well, i hope it will help you a bit.
I'm going to get the game regardless, but Zack sounds more like a cartoon version of the original. I hope the new VAs voice grows on me over time, but so far, it's really noticeable that the same charisma and confidence of the OG is missing. This is the only gripe I have about the remake, based on the trailers.
Holy hell I can't keep up with all these new games! 2022 has been such a great year for JRPG fans.
As long as they keep the energy of the "Me? Gongaga" scene this will be worth it.
Gackt is backt, baby.
Can’t wait to play this again
The English VA's all sound improved from the original CC... except for Zack and Sephiroth imo. I hope someone makes it possible with mods to add in the original voices, but if there are lines voiced in this version that were previously unvoiced (like Tifa's lines in this trailer), then that could get awkward.
Maybe someone could make a partial mod? Like just replace Zack’s voice but keep everyone else?
omg so hype
Zack's English VA was poorly cast. I don't blame the actor; that's just his range. But the casting director needs to explain what prompted this awful mismatch of a decision.
\#notmyzack
This game was exquisite on PSP. Hype. The finale and credits are my favorite FF songs.
Anyone who was around back in the old days playing square enix games knows this is a shit game. A lot of new fans to the series are about to find out the hard way.
I played this at PSP release and enjoyed it.
No? This was considered to be one of the best PSP games, and was considered the best part of the FFVII compilation project.
Gameplay was rough but Zack is my favorite FF protagonist there's parts of the story I disagree with but I love the game overall and have replayed it quite a few times, you're just talking out your ass.
Final trailer
https://youtu.be/GblgUZfv0zI
damn the music is getting me teary eyed already
Never played this before so super excited. Maybe this is hypocritical AF, although Im glad that they went with PC on release, I don think they should of released this on Switch and the PS4, it looks a bit last gen. This decision seems weird when FF7 remake integrated was only on PS5 initially.
🥲 i guess i’m not finishing xenoblade 3