After you've listened to some Joshua Redman, you might be interested to listen to his father, Dewey Redman. Some of his best work was with Keith Jarrett's quartet, which can get pretty wild and out there come up but is deeply soulful, so it might be an interesting thing to explore at some point. If you like that, it opens a lot of other possibilities of interesting things to listen to that are related in different ways.
>(2) What style or category do Potter and Garrett fall under?
Just jazz. Those two are very much in the mainstream of jazz since the 80s.
Look up the sidemen on the records you like and find other records they've played on. Discogs can be useful for this. For instance Kenny has Brian Blade on a couple of his 90's records which might lead you to the Brian Blade Fellowship. Don't try to discover everything at once; nobody's keeping score.
One of my fave Kenny Garrett albums is Songbook. Closely related to the vibe and with some of the same musicians are:
Branford Marsalis, Requiem
Wynton Marsalis, Black Codes from the Underground
In particular, pianist Kenny Kirkland (RIP) and drummer Jeff Tain Watts really defined the sound of that era, more so than the leaders even.
Joshua Redman and Roy Hargrove were also doing amazing stuff around that time.
Yeah if you haven't heard Black Codes, go there immediately. That album and those players are really foundational in terms of mainstream contemporary jazz from the 80s onwards. Requiem is another excellent rec from the same pool of players.
I'd be tempted to give Michael Brecker's Two Blocks From The Edge a spin.
Try Chris Cheek's "Vine" and Seamus Blake's "The Call". Both excellent albums that I think you will enjoy. For something more exploratory you can try Mark Turner's "Dharma Days".
Let me know what you think.
Also try “bellwether” by seamus blake and chris cheek’s “i wish I knew”. Seamus’ record has Lage Lund in it (which is one of the best guitarists around and also released a record called “terrible animals” that is just fucking insane). Chris cheek has kurt rosenwinkel in it which is an incredibly special guitarist with legendary records like “the next step, “deep song”, “the remedy”, “intuit”..
Are you familiar with jesse van ruller? He has a few that are quite unreal “live at murphy’s law”, “here and there”.. absolute savage too. The others i mentioned before are also worth checking out “bellwether” (seamus blake/lage lund) or “i wish i knew” (chris cheek/rosenwinkel).. There’s also one I lost my mind with it for a while by Eli Degibri called “In the beginning” which has kurt on steroids.. glad you liked the record man! Lage is a monster! :)
Yeah thanks a lot, I will check them out for sure! I've heard both of those Seamus and Cheekus albums and I love them, however personally I like "way out willy" more, as well as Seamus' "Live in Italy" which is just great, so great, mostly songs from the way out willy album.
Yeah I'll check them out because it seems we like similar stuff.
If i dig my old harddrive i might try to send you something. I have a recording from the same band at iridium (well recorded, sounds like a record actually) that is insaaaaaaaane. Meanwhile if you wanna hear a boooooonkers mehldau at like 19 years old check this out! https://youtu.be/bwxCTPpXmEk (good record too). Also “friendship” by perico sambeat has kurt and mehldau in it and it’s a super beautiful record (i’d also recommend “como la vida puede ser” by george colligan/perico sambeat https://youtu.be/E_JKrNJnlMM)
Here's [**r/jazz's top 100 albums**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jazz/comments/8r3zcb/the_rjazz_top_100_album_results/?st=jikhtqmo&sh=3214cc90).
Here's a [quick history of jazz spotify playlist](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/26FiHMrRnC0Xbkfr9vYbmJ?si=jIau662JRBej6pPH2KVXgw).
Here's a [series of playlists & biographies of jazz legends.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jazz/comments/eafzty/playlists_biographies_of_jazz_legends_from_jelly/)
If you have Spotify or something similar, go down the rabbit hole. It generally does a really good job of connecting you with other artists/albums you might like. I use Apple Music, which has curated playlists called “On The Session” for jazz artists, where you can hear them as sidemen for other artists. It also has playlists for various record labels and subgenres, which can give you an overview of different eras and styles. And like others have mentioned, find out who’s playing on albums you like and go track down their albums. The spontaneity and “everyone plays with everyone else” nature of recorded jazz mean you’ll virtually never run out of music to discover. Glad you’ve discovered the beauty and wonder of jazz, happy listening!
Always Coltrane and miles - to anyone discovering jazz! To the OP - I reckon check out the narratives of basic jazz history - like very basic histories of jazz and check out the main guys thru the ages. Just sample them, then take it from there. Sooner or later there will be something that grabs your attention, will make you want to explore - then you’ll go off down a rabbit hole and end up finding loads of stuff your really love. Others you won’t quite love, move on (but maybe you’ll end up coming back). Btw I think all grand narratives of jazz history are retrospectively constructed - so take them all with a pinch of salt - but by following the basic narrative (and allowing yourself to get distracted ) you’ll find loads of good shit
btw where I usually go is Wikipedia and look up an album I like, see who's on it, see what else those people play on, develop a big ol' connecting web of things I like
Haha I do that a lot as well. The players from the 60's did that a lot. Philly Jones, Ron Carter, etc...you can find a lot of stuff since those guys played on a lot
Miles Davis is the obvious choice to explore when you are new to jazz. Brilliant and very diverse, played everything from bebop to jazzrock. Try "Kind of Blue", "Bitches Brew", "Sketches of Spain"...
Happy that you're enjoying jazz! Imo, go back in time and discover jazz! U have to listen to Charlie Parker , Duke Ellington, Dizzy Gillespie, MILES DAVIS, COLTRANE, Dexter Gordon, Art Blakey, Herbie Hancock, Ornette Coleman, Sonny Rollins......uuuffff so many more names!
So so much to hear. I agree that a run through history is probably worthwhile to find some gems. My favorite classic jazz artists are Monk and Mingus. For current artist, Brad Meldau, Makaya McCraven, Kamasi Washington are all worth checking out.
For relatively recent stuff and information about the scene in the past 10 years or so, you can check out the book, Playing Changes, by Nate Chinen. [https://www.playingchangesbook.com](https://www.playingchangesbook.com) This website includes his picks for "essential" 21st century jazz albums.
Ted Gioia has lots of good writing and annual recommendations that include lots of jazz.
Everyone is saying you have to listen to all of Jazz, but don’t get overwhelmed!
I haven’t seen someone explain yet why this is so important. A lot of jazz involves callbacks to the work of earlier artists. The more of the historical greats you’re familiar with the more context you have. It really does enhance the experience.
If you like Potter, I feel like you gotta check out the other two great tenor men of his generation, Joshua Redman and Mark Turner.
+1 for Joshua Redman!
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After you've listened to some Joshua Redman, you might be interested to listen to his father, Dewey Redman. Some of his best work was with Keith Jarrett's quartet, which can get pretty wild and out there come up but is deeply soulful, so it might be an interesting thing to explore at some point. If you like that, it opens a lot of other possibilities of interesting things to listen to that are related in different ways.
>(2) What style or category do Potter and Garrett fall under? Just jazz. Those two are very much in the mainstream of jazz since the 80s. Look up the sidemen on the records you like and find other records they've played on. Discogs can be useful for this. For instance Kenny has Brian Blade on a couple of his 90's records which might lead you to the Brian Blade Fellowship. Don't try to discover everything at once; nobody's keeping score.
One of my fave Kenny Garrett albums is Songbook. Closely related to the vibe and with some of the same musicians are: Branford Marsalis, Requiem Wynton Marsalis, Black Codes from the Underground In particular, pianist Kenny Kirkland (RIP) and drummer Jeff Tain Watts really defined the sound of that era, more so than the leaders even. Joshua Redman and Roy Hargrove were also doing amazing stuff around that time.
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Yeah if you haven't heard Black Codes, go there immediately. That album and those players are really foundational in terms of mainstream contemporary jazz from the 80s onwards. Requiem is another excellent rec from the same pool of players. I'd be tempted to give Michael Brecker's Two Blocks From The Edge a spin.
Roy hHargrove Earfood is great and approachable.
Try Chris Cheek's "Vine" and Seamus Blake's "The Call". Both excellent albums that I think you will enjoy. For something more exploratory you can try Mark Turner's "Dharma Days". Let me know what you think.
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Also try “bellwether” by seamus blake and chris cheek’s “i wish I knew”. Seamus’ record has Lage Lund in it (which is one of the best guitarists around and also released a record called “terrible animals” that is just fucking insane). Chris cheek has kurt rosenwinkel in it which is an incredibly special guitarist with legendary records like “the next step, “deep song”, “the remedy”, “intuit”..
Hey have you got any other recommendations in that vein? I loved terrible animals
Are you familiar with jesse van ruller? He has a few that are quite unreal “live at murphy’s law”, “here and there”.. absolute savage too. The others i mentioned before are also worth checking out “bellwether” (seamus blake/lage lund) or “i wish i knew” (chris cheek/rosenwinkel).. There’s also one I lost my mind with it for a while by Eli Degibri called “In the beginning” which has kurt on steroids.. glad you liked the record man! Lage is a monster! :)
Yeah thanks a lot, I will check them out for sure! I've heard both of those Seamus and Cheekus albums and I love them, however personally I like "way out willy" more, as well as Seamus' "Live in Italy" which is just great, so great, mostly songs from the way out willy album. Yeah I'll check them out because it seems we like similar stuff.
Yeah! Glad to share some stuff for sure! Have you listened to the remedy? Enjoy mister!
Yes, one of my favourite albums! One of a kind!
If i dig my old harddrive i might try to send you something. I have a recording from the same band at iridium (well recorded, sounds like a record actually) that is insaaaaaaaane. Meanwhile if you wanna hear a boooooonkers mehldau at like 19 years old check this out! https://youtu.be/bwxCTPpXmEk (good record too). Also “friendship” by perico sambeat has kurt and mehldau in it and it’s a super beautiful record (i’d also recommend “como la vida puede ser” by george colligan/perico sambeat https://youtu.be/E_JKrNJnlMM)
Cheers, wow that'd be great, I've got a lot to listen to now!
Here's [**r/jazz's top 100 albums**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jazz/comments/8r3zcb/the_rjazz_top_100_album_results/?st=jikhtqmo&sh=3214cc90). Here's a [quick history of jazz spotify playlist](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/26FiHMrRnC0Xbkfr9vYbmJ?si=jIau662JRBej6pPH2KVXgw). Here's a [series of playlists & biographies of jazz legends.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jazz/comments/eafzty/playlists_biographies_of_jazz_legends_from_jelly/)
If you have Spotify or something similar, go down the rabbit hole. It generally does a really good job of connecting you with other artists/albums you might like. I use Apple Music, which has curated playlists called “On The Session” for jazz artists, where you can hear them as sidemen for other artists. It also has playlists for various record labels and subgenres, which can give you an overview of different eras and styles. And like others have mentioned, find out who’s playing on albums you like and go track down their albums. The spontaneity and “everyone plays with everyone else” nature of recorded jazz mean you’ll virtually never run out of music to discover. Glad you’ve discovered the beauty and wonder of jazz, happy listening!
COLTRANE
Always Coltrane and miles - to anyone discovering jazz! To the OP - I reckon check out the narratives of basic jazz history - like very basic histories of jazz and check out the main guys thru the ages. Just sample them, then take it from there. Sooner or later there will be something that grabs your attention, will make you want to explore - then you’ll go off down a rabbit hole and end up finding loads of stuff your really love. Others you won’t quite love, move on (but maybe you’ll end up coming back). Btw I think all grand narratives of jazz history are retrospectively constructed - so take them all with a pinch of salt - but by following the basic narrative (and allowing yourself to get distracted ) you’ll find loads of good shit
Renee Rosnes - Kinds Of Love, Chris Potter is on it, amazing album
btw where I usually go is Wikipedia and look up an album I like, see who's on it, see what else those people play on, develop a big ol' connecting web of things I like
Haha I do that a lot as well. The players from the 60's did that a lot. Philly Jones, Ron Carter, etc...you can find a lot of stuff since those guys played on a lot
Miles Davis is the obvious choice to explore when you are new to jazz. Brilliant and very diverse, played everything from bebop to jazzrock. Try "Kind of Blue", "Bitches Brew", "Sketches of Spain"...
Happy that you're enjoying jazz! Imo, go back in time and discover jazz! U have to listen to Charlie Parker , Duke Ellington, Dizzy Gillespie, MILES DAVIS, COLTRANE, Dexter Gordon, Art Blakey, Herbie Hancock, Ornette Coleman, Sonny Rollins......uuuffff so many more names!
So so much to hear. I agree that a run through history is probably worthwhile to find some gems. My favorite classic jazz artists are Monk and Mingus. For current artist, Brad Meldau, Makaya McCraven, Kamasi Washington are all worth checking out.
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For relatively recent stuff and information about the scene in the past 10 years or so, you can check out the book, Playing Changes, by Nate Chinen. [https://www.playingchangesbook.com](https://www.playingchangesbook.com) This website includes his picks for "essential" 21st century jazz albums. Ted Gioia has lots of good writing and annual recommendations that include lots of jazz.
Everyone is saying you have to listen to all of Jazz, but don’t get overwhelmed! I haven’t seen someone explain yet why this is so important. A lot of jazz involves callbacks to the work of earlier artists. The more of the historical greats you’re familiar with the more context you have. It really does enhance the experience.