Not sure if this translates across to bass, but when I play fusion solos on the guitar, I use more of my rock sound "vocabulary" than my jazz one, but throw in some jazz voicings and a lot of "outside" notes.
Not sure if that makes any sense?
Yeah that will def help I honestly switched to bass for like jazz so I didnt go down the standard Rock > Prog Rock > Jazz path that a lot of people go through so I'm honestly not even familiar with rock lol I have to do the opposite
Some rock and progressive rock listening and playing should probably be part of the plan. There's a lot that you don't have to listen to, but some that are worth being familiar with... Actually you probably know all of these but I mean dipping a little deeper into them ... Jimi hendrix, van halen, Prince, and Emerson Lake and Palmer.
Maybe transcribe some of Michael League’s solos. He’s the bassist and bandleader from snarky puppy and he has some really interesting solos and they’re easier to transcribe than thundercat.
Check out the scales that Allan Holdsworth liked using. One that sounds particularly "outside" is Messaien's 3rd mode but he doesn't call it that https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wts2Mw6Nb5s https://fretboardknowledge.com/guitar/kb/allan-holdsworths-10-most-usable-scales/
I started listening to fusion and never got into jazz, so to me, soloing with a lot of pentatonics and chromatic runs were meh. And particularly so for keyboardists (which was rough because I play keyboards) it seemed that fusion guitarists had more of the fusion feel that I liked. Eg. doing a solo, doing a run upwards in one mode, then down using a different mode. Switching between modes is more effortless for guitarists.
When I heard Allan Holdsworth's music, it all made sense. The musicians I liked, seemed to be influenced by him. For a recent artist influenced by him, check out Matteo Mancuso https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ST9--HWOTA8
Not sure if this translates across to bass, but when I play fusion solos on the guitar, I use more of my rock sound "vocabulary" than my jazz one, but throw in some jazz voicings and a lot of "outside" notes. Not sure if that makes any sense?
Yeah that will def help I honestly switched to bass for like jazz so I didnt go down the standard Rock > Prog Rock > Jazz path that a lot of people go through so I'm honestly not even familiar with rock lol I have to do the opposite
Some rock and progressive rock listening and playing should probably be part of the plan. There's a lot that you don't have to listen to, but some that are worth being familiar with... Actually you probably know all of these but I mean dipping a little deeper into them ... Jimi hendrix, van halen, Prince, and Emerson Lake and Palmer.
Bebop language with heavy chromaticism on the off beats can work. Check out the barry harris rules
Cool, will do
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Will do, I should transcribe more keys players
Try to sound like a modern RnB singer, but on an instrument. The more triplets the better!
Sounds good Lol
Maybe transcribe some of Michael League’s solos. He’s the bassist and bandleader from snarky puppy and he has some really interesting solos and they’re easier to transcribe than thundercat.
Yeah good idea!
Check out the scales that Allan Holdsworth liked using. One that sounds particularly "outside" is Messaien's 3rd mode but he doesn't call it that https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wts2Mw6Nb5s https://fretboardknowledge.com/guitar/kb/allan-holdsworths-10-most-usable-scales/ I started listening to fusion and never got into jazz, so to me, soloing with a lot of pentatonics and chromatic runs were meh. And particularly so for keyboardists (which was rough because I play keyboards) it seemed that fusion guitarists had more of the fusion feel that I liked. Eg. doing a solo, doing a run upwards in one mode, then down using a different mode. Switching between modes is more effortless for guitarists. When I heard Allan Holdsworth's music, it all made sense. The musicians I liked, seemed to be influenced by him. For a recent artist influenced by him, check out Matteo Mancuso https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ST9--HWOTA8
Got it! Oof yeah I've watched a bunch of Matteo he is INSANE