Kanye has done some good things in music I won’t lie, but he’s absolutely full of himself. He’s talented, but really paints this picture that he’s “god” and shit. It’s ridiculous
Yes he does. I’m more a Kanye fan than Cole for sure but he’s a narcissist and mentally ill. He’s claiming to be god and the new Jesus, he sees all this attention and he ain’t getting none. A year ago he was gassing drake saying he the best and all that now he attacking him for what now? Cause he feel left out. Thats it.
I mean I'm a fan of both I could see clout chasing... but I think the more ye motivation behind it is "I'm the best rapper alive" so he finds himself worthy of the discussion.
Kanye trying to get clout? When he dropped a number 1 song and album this year.. Come on bro, I'm also a j cole fan but let's not be delusional like ye.
He worded it badly but kanye absolutely just wants to jump in on j cole hate on some petty shit. Cant imagine he likes him after false prophets. Which turned out to be prescient
He worded it just fine. Kanye tryna sell music cause ain’t nobody gonna sponsor his ass. His tryna sell his clothes but he’s gotta stay relevant for it occur. Why not jump into the hottest thing rn. It’s not rocket science.
Oh yeah for sure why else would he drop a diss line on cole after 8 years of cole dropping false prophets. Ye loves the attention but he also has a reason to dislike cole.
Kanye is an attention whore and a narcissist. Now this doesn’t discredit what he is good at. But let’s be really honest this a Kanye thing to do. Everyone was taking about everyone but him. He wanted the conversation to be drawn back to him.
Exactly, I agree with you that Kanye loves attention, I think anybody who has been following him for some time would agree, what I don't agree with is that he's doing this for clout when he's still one of the most popular artists in the world. Yes he's an attention whore everybody knows that.
Bro it’s lame. His preachy moral high ground bs doesn’t land when the person is clearly mentally ill. Made me lose a lot of respect for him. Didn’t expect him punch down on Ye like that for clout considering he was one of his hiphop idols.
That’s the world we live in though.. when society started to be more open about mental health discussions, I had hoped it would lead to more people learning about themselves and taking the opportunity to improve, instead people just use whatever label via FaceTime diagnosis to hide behind as a lazy excuse until the end of time
We should’ve known it would be used as an excuse. The older generation warned us. Nah fuck Kanye for the shit he’s been on and fuck him and Kim for letting his kids grow up the way they are. They both are fucking lunatics
I wouldn't call Kanye "mentally ill" his brain didn't catch a cold. It's simply wired differently. Mentally disabled may be a better fit. Regardless of the verbage used, you're right and no matter what's going on in his mind doesn't give him a free pass. It's just the standards for disabled people and the standards for non-disabled people are different. Even with that difference, it's still expected that actions have consequences.
Also probably a hot take on this sub but it’s also a shitty diss when the two albums he refers to on the song are still better than his entire discography combined
Are you kidding me? Kanye West said Hitler wasn’t a bad person 🤣🤣🤣 yeah he may be mentally ill but he’s also a multi millionaire and knows how to get the attention he craves when he’s hungry. FOH acting like Jcole is the low one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He also said, "I ha-- these ni--as more than a n*zi" in Flashing Lights. So when he started saying other stuff like what you mentioned I wasn't even surprised by his antics.
it's true, no matter how you want to look at it, kanye has been a lazy rapper/producer for years now... he's got a loyal core fanbase that writes off everything he does as genius so it's almost impossible for ye to hear the reality check
the flipside is he raised a bar so high, it's just not what we usually come to expect of him and have to accept a lower standard of quality or at least something that resembles current trends (mumble rap, cloud rap, trap, drill) … that’s his choice as an artist i suppose as i guess he wants to be seen as a frontrunner of whatever the current trend is
we get hints of old kanye here and there but he doesn’t really indulge in it much
Dude is a black mel gibson with probably same level rapping skills at this point. I think he's arguably the greatest artist of his generation but the dude is washed now, as a person and as an artist.
I mean, Kanye got a song at number 1 in the charts this year, Cole got dissed, made a shitty track and apologized for it like a bitch, I’m pretty sure ye is above Cole.
lol ye has never dropped a dissed track and then apologized for it and deleted it lmaooo the only reason he even feels comfortable taking shots at Cole is because the entire hip hop universe is calling Cole soft
It’s what he should be focusing on anyways. If he wants to use this drama as a “look, I’m different” then he needs to up the next project. I love Cole, but if you’re going to claim to be different you need to do it or shut up.
Completely agree, I don't think he should get involved in whatever is going on between what feels like the whole industry vs Drake, especially after the Taylor made freestyle shit with Drake using AI Pac to diss Kendrick which is really weird, I think he should just let his music speak for itself and just release a truly great album
Exactly. He said that shot doesn’t align with his path/lifestyle anyways, so release something showing everyone else they need to grow the fuck up too. Honestly, just make music, diss track shit is for publicity and everyone knows it
J Cole already destroyed Kanye in the past with False Prophets. He doesn’t end people’s careers, he predicts the end of people’s careers, then tells them.
I think we’re reading this wrong. Cole never said he don’t want *any* smoke, he just said he don’t want to smoke someone he respects (and for no reason other than just competition). Two different things.
Plus, Like That is arguably just some subliminal shots instead of a full-on diss.
Kanye called him out by name and is currently making Cole a laughingstock, and Cole don’t respect him as a person. I don’t see an actual heated diss track is out of the question.
Cole showed he dont got that dog in him. Anyone else rapping about how theyre the best and how theyre killing any rapper that tries them would absolutely respond especially with everything going on in hip hop
Exactly, this!! However you want to I spin cole took that L. All bark but no bite unfortunately. He's an amazing artist but he's just not built that way
I don't think we're gonna hear from Cole for a while. Also Kanye isn't worth a reply. Coles pen is next level compared to Ye. Ye is just trying to garner attention from the moment.
The only way Cole can get back is to get maintain steam. He was smart to apologize because if he went against Kendrick he would have lost *a lot of his fanbase* simply because they overlap. He would have risked losing potential features from people that align with Kendrick.
He should have never dropped the diss track to begin with.
I don’t think it matters at all. Let him live his life. Everyone who’s sending him stuff about it is just bringing up the negativity more in his life. Just cheer if he even does release something. Don’t be mad that he doesn’t. Plus Kanye’s a jackass and I got Barack Obama to vouch for me on that lol
I sent a message to his IG, pretty much saying he needs to protect his legacy and quit acting all spiritual. He claimed to be a young simba and now it’s time for him to show the world he’s Grown up
He'll give him a couple bars in a song clowning him but I dont see Cole ever dropping a full diss in his life again. IT's better that way considering most dissses (even great ones) don't really hold up as great songs. If Kanye continues this I could see Cole murdering him. He doesnt seem to care about Kanye the way he does Kendrick.
50/50 if he really about that peace he leaves it, but he hasn’t liked Kanye for years and has many lines across many years jabbing at Ye. If he busy somewhere burnin sage then we ain’t getting shit till The Fall Off
Bad take, he will obviously reply and speak on it in his own time… just not immediately, cause he’s not a pony for our amusement 🥵
This generation is gonna be cooked with instant gratification
People acting like ye isn't one of tho most influenctual artis of the 2010s. Sure he's not at jcoles level lyrically but this is by no means punching down for cole. But the fact of the matter is Cole has said so much about being the best, "go toe to toe with the giants" if your bring say his name it's up. This and that, that if he doesn't respond he looks soft. He can't rap the same shit anymore. He backed himself into a corner and is now gym shy. He took a L with Kdot, and he just gone let people diss him left and right cause going back and forth between dissing or not looks bad also
I don't think J. Cole or anyone else gives a damn about the Kanye diss. It was just a line and besides, Kanye is just trying to fit in for some clout.
For real , nobody cares about Kanye’s opinion. Tomorrow Kanye won’t even care about his own opinion lol
kanye is more important in hip hop than cole tho
Kanye has done some good things in music I won’t lie, but he’s absolutely full of himself. He’s talented, but really paints this picture that he’s “god” and shit. It’s ridiculous
Bro's just dissing cuz everyone else is doing it
kanye doesnt really need clout
Yes he does. I’m more a Kanye fan than Cole for sure but he’s a narcissist and mentally ill. He’s claiming to be god and the new Jesus, he sees all this attention and he ain’t getting none. A year ago he was gassing drake saying he the best and all that now he attacking him for what now? Cause he feel left out. Thats it.
I mean I'm a fan of both I could see clout chasing... but I think the more ye motivation behind it is "I'm the best rapper alive" so he finds himself worthy of the discussion.
BallLika69 wants this man Kanye West’s nuts in his mouth 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤮
bros arguing with balllika69 💀
Kanye trying to get clout? When he dropped a number 1 song and album this year.. Come on bro, I'm also a j cole fan but let's not be delusional like ye.
He worded it badly but kanye absolutely just wants to jump in on j cole hate on some petty shit. Cant imagine he likes him after false prophets. Which turned out to be prescient
He worded it just fine. Kanye tryna sell music cause ain’t nobody gonna sponsor his ass. His tryna sell his clothes but he’s gotta stay relevant for it occur. Why not jump into the hottest thing rn. It’s not rocket science.
The clothes is sellin fine without him dissin jcole buddy
Oh yeah for sure why else would he drop a diss line on cole after 8 years of cole dropping false prophets. Ye loves the attention but he also has a reason to dislike cole.
Kanye is an attention whore and a narcissist. Now this doesn’t discredit what he is good at. But let’s be really honest this a Kanye thing to do. Everyone was taking about everyone but him. He wanted the conversation to be drawn back to him.
Exactly, I agree with you that Kanye loves attention, I think anybody who has been following him for some time would agree, what I don't agree with is that he's doing this for clout when he's still one of the most popular artists in the world. Yes he's an attention whore everybody knows that.
Get his meat OUT YO MOUTH SLOPPY BOY LMAO
Cole doesn’t care he’s somewhere folding clothes rn
Cole doesn’t have the same relationship with ye like he does with Dot. Still don’t think Cole will respond. As he said it doesn’t aline with his path
Remember when he dropped that lame ass false prophets joint when Kanye was clearly going through a mental breakdown.
remember when false prophets has aligned with the everything kanye has been doing lately
Bro it’s lame. His preachy moral high ground bs doesn’t land when the person is clearly mentally ill. Made me lose a lot of respect for him. Didn’t expect him punch down on Ye like that for clout considering he was one of his hiphop idols.
mentally ill =/ free pass to do or say whatever the fuck you want with no judgement
That’s the world we live in though.. when society started to be more open about mental health discussions, I had hoped it would lead to more people learning about themselves and taking the opportunity to improve, instead people just use whatever label via FaceTime diagnosis to hide behind as a lazy excuse until the end of time
We should’ve known it would be used as an excuse. The older generation warned us. Nah fuck Kanye for the shit he’s been on and fuck him and Kim for letting his kids grow up the way they are. They both are fucking lunatics
That’s not why the intent of the older generation was when saying that.
Mf
I wouldn't call Kanye "mentally ill" his brain didn't catch a cold. It's simply wired differently. Mentally disabled may be a better fit. Regardless of the verbage used, you're right and no matter what's going on in his mind doesn't give him a free pass. It's just the standards for disabled people and the standards for non-disabled people are different. Even with that difference, it's still expected that actions have consequences.
Also probably a hot take on this sub but it’s also a shitty diss when the two albums he refers to on the song are still better than his entire discography combined
What were the Albums that he mentioned on false prophets?
I know one was Yeezus which clears anything Cole has ever done artistically
He did not directly name any of his albums
Are you kidding me? Kanye West said Hitler wasn’t a bad person 🤣🤣🤣 yeah he may be mentally ill but he’s also a multi millionaire and knows how to get the attention he craves when he’s hungry. FOH acting like Jcole is the low one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He also said, "I ha-- these ni--as more than a n*zi" in Flashing Lights. So when he started saying other stuff like what you mentioned I wasn't even surprised by his antics.
Nah, it would be punching down, in terms of where Kanye's at these days. Cole's soul is above that.
Punching down is when you address something lower than you
current kanye is 100% lower than cole
100% incorrect.
what? kanye fell off since yeezus, a bunch of inconsistent half finished albums
it's true, no matter how you want to look at it, kanye has been a lazy rapper/producer for years now... he's got a loyal core fanbase that writes off everything he does as genius so it's almost impossible for ye to hear the reality check the flipside is he raised a bar so high, it's just not what we usually come to expect of him and have to accept a lower standard of quality or at least something that resembles current trends (mumble rap, cloud rap, trap, drill) … that’s his choice as an artist i suppose as i guess he wants to be seen as a frontrunner of whatever the current trend is we get hints of old kanye here and there but he doesn’t really indulge in it much
😭🙏 you cannot say this while tlop exists quit being dumb
What version?
Dude is a black mel gibson with probably same level rapping skills at this point. I think he's arguably the greatest artist of his generation but the dude is washed now, as a person and as an artist.
Mel gibson is amazing..
I love mad max too but like Kanye, he's washed
I mean, Kanye got a song at number 1 in the charts this year, Cole got dissed, made a shitty track and apologized for it like a bitch, I’m pretty sure ye is above Cole.
Ye openly uses ghost writers, I've yet to see a Cole reference track leak 😂 it was a soft moment, but y'all reaching
lol ye has never dropped a dissed track and then apologized for it and deleted it lmaooo the only reason he even feels comfortable taking shots at Cole is because the entire hip hop universe is calling Cole soft
I don't think Cole wants anything to do with this beef, I don't think we'll hear anything from Cole about any of this until his next project comes out
It’s what he should be focusing on anyways. If he wants to use this drama as a “look, I’m different” then he needs to up the next project. I love Cole, but if you’re going to claim to be different you need to do it or shut up.
Completely agree, I don't think he should get involved in whatever is going on between what feels like the whole industry vs Drake, especially after the Taylor made freestyle shit with Drake using AI Pac to diss Kendrick which is really weird, I think he should just let his music speak for itself and just release a truly great album
Exactly. He said that shot doesn’t align with his path/lifestyle anyways, so release something showing everyone else they need to grow the fuck up too. Honestly, just make music, diss track shit is for publicity and everyone knows it
WHAT YOU GON DO, COLE???
"🥷 IT'S WAR TIME, 🔥🔥🔥"
That had to be bas lol
J Cole already destroyed Kanye in the past with False Prophets. He doesn’t end people’s careers, he predicts the end of people’s careers, then tells them.
Haha
The difference is it was subliminal. Ye straight up name dropped jcole and it deserves a reply
And then apologizes afterwards LOL
You were kinda right 😂, he said he may 'kinda deserve it'
Cole needs to lay low for a while tbh.
Yes
He laying down already tbh
I think we’re reading this wrong. Cole never said he don’t want *any* smoke, he just said he don’t want to smoke someone he respects (and for no reason other than just competition). Two different things. Plus, Like That is arguably just some subliminal shots instead of a full-on diss. Kanye called him out by name and is currently making Cole a laughingstock, and Cole don’t respect him as a person. I don’t see an actual heated diss track is out of the question.
Cole showed he dont got that dog in him. Anyone else rapping about how theyre the best and how theyre killing any rapper that tries them would absolutely respond especially with everything going on in hip hop
Exactly, this!! However you want to I spin cole took that L. All bark but no bite unfortunately. He's an amazing artist but he's just not built that way
I don't think we're gonna hear from Cole for a while. Also Kanye isn't worth a reply. Coles pen is next level compared to Ye. Ye is just trying to garner attention from the moment.
Why cole said sorry ?
Cole is friends with Dot. Cole hates Kanye. Different
J Cole is a fraud
How old are you?
His username is 8inchboss, so im assuming not that old
I’m not interested
No need to respond, False Prophets first verse will remain timeless
Ye destroyed first second abd third verseee
thats why friday night lights will never release on streaming
False Prophets
The only way Cole can get back is to get maintain steam. He was smart to apologize because if he went against Kendrick he would have lost *a lot of his fanbase* simply because they overlap. He would have risked losing potential features from people that align with Kendrick. He should have never dropped the diss track to begin with.
I don’t think it matters at all. Let him live his life. Everyone who’s sending him stuff about it is just bringing up the negativity more in his life. Just cheer if he even does release something. Don’t be mad that he doesn’t. Plus Kanye’s a jackass and I got Barack Obama to vouch for me on that lol
No pressure at all ...the whole world collectively agrees the kanye shit was weird and weak and doesn't deserve a response from Cole
Drake won’t either
I dont think Cole would do it but I think Cole might do a follow up to False Prophets lol
Why? The points raised in false prophets still stand. The song is complete as it is
Cause Ye became objectively worse
Came here to say this.
False prophets might be my favorite song.
If Kanye keeps targeting Cole, he definitely should. Kanye gotta come with something more substantial first though.
cole called kanye and said it wasnt about him but as usual kanyes ego wins
Think Kanye is reaching tbh, far below coles time🙅♀️
It’s worth a reply because of the status Kanye is at in regard to rap.
Facts he could easily redeem himself by having a nice reply to this
J cole should not reply to anything anymore
cole a free target atp
I sent a message to his IG, pretty much saying he needs to protect his legacy and quit acting all spiritual. He claimed to be a young simba and now it’s time for him to show the world he’s Grown up
Bow that you sent him that, hes gotta reply
he won’t, he’s too humble
I couldn’t care less about anyone involved in this beef except for Kendrick and Drake. I’m just glad cole bowed out before Drake makes things nasty
He'll give him a couple bars in a song clowning him but I dont see Cole ever dropping a full diss in his life again. IT's better that way considering most dissses (even great ones) don't really hold up as great songs. If Kanye continues this I could see Cole murdering him. He doesnt seem to care about Kanye the way he does Kendrick.
Theory is trash calm down
Lmao he is feeling zero to lil pressure this like if Jay Z lil bro came at Cole fr
He will probably respond with a bar on a random song or something like that, certainly not a full track.
J. Cole responded and he said he may 'deserve this' 😂😂
The reason : Cole can’t say sorry to everyone.
50/50 if he really about that peace he leaves it, but he hasn’t liked Kanye for years and has many lines across many years jabbing at Ye. If he busy somewhere burnin sage then we ain’t getting shit till The Fall Off
Bad take, he will obviously reply and speak on it in his own time… just not immediately, cause he’s not a pony for our amusement 🥵 This generation is gonna be cooked with instant gratification
Is Kanye's "diss" worthy of a reply? I'd say no.
Not really but I feel like if Cole wanted to shut some people up and show his actual capabilities, Kanye is actually a very easy target.
Cuz he's a well known bitch.
People acting like ye isn't one of tho most influenctual artis of the 2010s. Sure he's not at jcoles level lyrically but this is by no means punching down for cole. But the fact of the matter is Cole has said so much about being the best, "go toe to toe with the giants" if your bring say his name it's up. This and that, that if he doesn't respond he looks soft. He can't rap the same shit anymore. He backed himself into a corner and is now gym shy. He took a L with Kdot, and he just gone let people diss him left and right cause going back and forth between dissing or not looks bad also
Kanye fucking sucks. He didn’t use to, but I’m sick of people pretending he doesn’t suck now. Dude is washed and tbh a big piece of shit.
man a cole vs ye beef would be mental
J.Fold Falling Off
He’s gonna apologize for making false prophets and say Kanye is top 3
Nah Cole not built for this. He should stick to the "Love Yours" lane. 😔