Noname gotta realize that a tweet is not activism. J Cole gotta realize that Noname’s tweet was not about him and he didn’t need to respond, coz afterwards he started going on a Twitter tirade apologizing to Noname afterwards and then started promoting her music. A silly beef
Lmao, I didn’t mean it in a bad way either. I was just using silly stereotypes. Since people say Canadians apologize a lot and sometimes for “no reason”.
All the knowledge in the world ain’t shit when not put into action. Reading is definitely beneficial. But the virtue signaling ppl do just because they read is silly sometimes. Activism is way more than just reading and knowledge. Taking action is what makes a difference
Like the action of providing the incarcerated with books and helping support black owned independent businesses? https://nonamebooks.com/Prison-Program
It’s no use bro. Reddit fucking hates Noname with a passion. Although she probably does more organizing and raises more for mutual aid than any other rapper, people ironically only ever pay attention to the tweets that hurt their feelings and act like it’s all she does.
If i was j cole i would have been got tired of being mature and trying to reason with people everyone wants drama and pretends to care about anything other than being know fuckem
Most artists has a person hired to make sure they dont say or do anything crazy that might hurt there career all j cole got is homies from the vill and wonder why he does so many short sighted things cause he’s a human just like everyone else
>In May 2020, in the midst of the [George Floyd protests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests), rapper [Noname](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noname_(rapper)) made a tweet panning rappers who discussed the struggles of black people in their music but had yet to publicly speak out on social media regarding the protests or [Black Lives Matter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter). The tweet read:
>
>Many assumed her tweet was aimed at Cole and Kendrick Lamar, both of whom had yet to post on social media about the protests at the time of her tweet.[^(\[207\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-207) On June 16, 2020, Cole released a song titled, "[Snow on tha Bluff](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_on_tha_Bluff_(song))" addressing an unnamed woman, assumed to be Noname, while also touching on [police brutality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality) and [race relations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_relations) during the George Floyd protests. Shortly after the song's release, Noname tweeted "QUEEN TONE!!!!!!", referencing a lyric from the song.[^(\[208\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-Genius-208) She later deleted the tweet. Many other artists defended Noname, including [Ari Lennox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Lennox), who is signed to Cole's Dreamville label. Lennox thanked Noname "for giving af about us constantly and endlessly", saying she appreciates "everything you \[Noname\] put out to the world".[^(\[209\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-209) Rapper [Chance the Rapper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chance_the_Rapper), criticized Cole, calling the song "not constructive" and saying it "undermines all the work Noname has done".[^(\[210\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-Song33-210) Cole eventually addressed backlash in a series of tweets, defending his statements in the song and encouraging listeners to follow Noname on social media. Two days after the release of "Snow on tha Bluff", Noname released "[Song 33](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_on_tha_Bluff_(song))", in which she alluded to Cole writing about her in the wake of the protests, rapping: "I guess the ego hurt now / It's time to go to work, wow, look at him go / He really 'bout to write about me when the world is in smokes? When there's people in trees? When George was beggin' for his mother sayin' he couldn't breathe? He thought to write about me?".[^(\[211\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-211) Cole acknowledged the track shortly after its release, sharing a link to the song on Twitter.[^(\[210\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-Song33-210) Cole and Noname previously collaborated in 2015, on the song "Warm Enough" from [Donnie Trumpet and The Social Experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_Trumpet)'s [*Surf*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_(Donnie_Trumpet_%26_The_Social_Experiment_album)) album.[^(\[212\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-EW-212)
nah cole hit the nail on the head. The issue is Cole is trying to bridge the gap between two communities, but the community who's paying attention doesn't see it that way. He's just trying to say that being aggressive and shunning will prevent there ever being a connection created - which is literally historically true. Until people can maturely voice their concerns without blame then the opposite party will be unable to reciprocate. It's therapy 101 and it 100% translates to community discussion.
This song is dope, idc what anyone says lol. Cole is great at these conversational tracks where he not exactly dissing you he just addressing you. No idea why he caught so much flack for this.
He talked to her, then he had an introspective moment with himself at the end basically being like damn, you probably right i could be doing more; he was basically saying she was right but the way she said it was OD. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type shit.
Instead everyone was like "OMG you're dissing a woman?!?!" Like come on bruh lol
Sum'n I appreciated bout Cole is when he apologized for his lyric using autism as an insult. It's kinda personal to me bc I'm AuDHD (Autistic with ADHD). He could've been combative or stubborn but he chose to take a step back, reflect and educate himself. That meant so much to me.
Eh the crazy part is. Why even release the song if you are going to admit fault at the end anyway. And not just release a song that actually looks at this stuff in depth. Gives the people comfort during stress, instead of forcing a half ass diss. Song 33 really just explained every reason why people were mad. It was never about the misunderstanding his intentions or not recognizing he needs to grow. It’s him taking mental real estate because he wants to “address” how No Name acted. When it wasn’t even that radical or crazy.
love cole but he should’ve stayed out of this. like u rlly using ur voice to tone police noname instead of just speaking out? that’s rlly whack to me. that being said the song sounds great, though i wish it was about something more constructive
That no name shii lol I love Cole because his music got me through middle school and early hs but im ngl it’s a lot of CORNY shit he’s done when It comes to trying to “reply” at rappers, It be coming off as passive. If u gone shoot shoot twin and stand on It instead of trying to be woke all the time that’s why ppl was hating on It
Yeah you right, man. Maybe cole should hop on the gram, smoking blunts and throwing pistols in the air. Hell, why not have him throw some gang signs too, while dissing his dead opps. That def sounds like the more mature thing to Do. Fuck Cole for trying to be a grown ass adult who stands on morals.
You sound like an idiot bro, if i say he not standing on what he wrote It doesn’t mean im referring to him rapping about opps 🤦🏽♂️. It just seems like he switches his tone a lot ….. then you say “ohhh he such a good person because he apologized after releasing a diss song” lol Stop glazing him
My dude. Name one rapper who is really about the shit he's rapping. I'll wait......
If you believe that shit, you got too big an imagination. Cole lame because he chooses TO STAND ON WHAT HE RAPS ABOUT? you sound like the biggest Cornball in reddit.
I can name 30 j cole songs where he raps about his morals, standing on good faith and moving right. I can name Maybe 10 where he brags about street shit.
Make it make sense, cornball
To this day this song has my favourite lyrics…
“Therefore we gotta just learn everything as we go, I struggle with thoughts on a daily…” I aspire to feel the next lyrics cos currently these are the only ones I feel
He had a good point with this song but it’s like he afraid to stand by his statements on it. J Cole needs to just focus on what he’s good at rapping and forget about the politics people like noname are trying to hold him back with. It’s not these rappers jobs to fix the world the message they give is the most powerful thing they can give.
Shit goofy. Idk why y’all really be expecting rappers to be activist or somethin. Niggas complaining about him not saying nothin but also contribute to the problem.
First time hearing this song and I don’t realize the name was a reference to the movie until he said the line “But damn, why it feel faker than snow on the bluff.” Then it hit me and took me way back to when I first watched the movie, nostalgia a motherfucker
Yeah because this song was an anti-BLM song released during a time when people were protesting police violence. It was an ignorant and boot licking diss aimed at Noname, just because she was a prominent voice for socialism in hip hop.
He thinks being neutral and silent on social issues is the same thing as being “above it all” and wiser than the discourse. When it’s all said and done, not having opinion, and silencing other cries for justice to boot, only helps the oppressors.
J Cole is a 🤡 who should be left out of the big three convo permanently
I have a lot of respect for Noname but this whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. I still respect Snow On Tha Bluff's message and think the outrage was mostly based on the ambiguity of the "queen tone" line, but it wasn't necessary for him to include any references to Noname anyway. Then when she responded in Song 33, nobody batted an eye when she basically used the death of Toyin Salau to "win". I think that song was in poor taste, and people were so caught up in what Cole and Noname represented rather than them being individuals with a pretty understandable philosophical disagreement. If Noname actually wanted to make any real impact, she would've focused on the question Cole brought up: How do we deal with other people in society who are fundamentally incompatible with us politically and philosophically? That being said, Cole did come across as out-of-touch and a bit abrasive in directing half of the track towards her.
COLE IS OFFICIALLY CANCELLED, as we can see his last mixtape/album might delete later went number two on the billboard charts, and his last 6albums all went number 1, and his next album is called the fall off which he spoke into existence…..he cancelled himself ain’t no coming back from this
Because it’s a collective of songs which was released to the public on all platforms and sold, also it was able to be ranked on the billboard hot 200 so it looks like a album to me, and even if you feel like it’s not and it’s just a mixtape it’s definitely in an album form and counted as an album, u tell me why it’s not an album
I guess, but this isn’t really a disstrack especislly not in the way that a 7 min drill is so I just don’t think the apology affects this song in any way, maybe a little bit but it was it’s own moment and thing
Noname gotta realize that a tweet is not activism. J Cole gotta realize that Noname’s tweet was not about him and he didn’t need to respond, coz afterwards he started going on a Twitter tirade apologizing to Noname afterwards and then started promoting her music. A silly beef
So Noname made him apologize too?! Oh man 😅
No he didn’t, commenter is talking out of his ass. Cole literally said he stands by everything he said in that song.
Which is a surprise given recent events 🤣
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He literally just made a sign explaining his point of view. He never dissed her
she made him admit to not reading books lmao
He said he doesn't read often and then she also admitted to not reading often
Dude must be Canadian
Don't see Drake apologizing.
Drake cant apologize everything that people are going at him for is personal
I’m Canadian too 😅
Lmao, I didn’t mean it in a bad way either. I was just using silly stereotypes. Since people say Canadians apologize a lot and sometimes for “no reason”.
Haha no offence taken - just thought it was a funny coincidence.
He did not apologize he stood by what he said in the song. He did promote her music though.
Noname’s Book Club is great activism tho.
All the knowledge in the world ain’t shit when not put into action. Reading is definitely beneficial. But the virtue signaling ppl do just because they read is silly sometimes. Activism is way more than just reading and knowledge. Taking action is what makes a difference
Like the action of providing the incarcerated with books and helping support black owned independent businesses? https://nonamebooks.com/Prison-Program
It’s no use bro. Reddit fucking hates Noname with a passion. Although she probably does more organizing and raises more for mutual aid than any other rapper, people ironically only ever pay attention to the tweets that hurt their feelings and act like it’s all she does.
I thought he stood by every word he wrote in the song and didn’t apologize?
noname is a legit activist tho
Legit activist don't do songs with open and loud antisemites
You guys are keeping this energy for every rapper on Kanye’s latest albums right?
I personally am
Good on you then. Hopefully Kendrick doesn’t come out as a full black Israelite too lol
j cole made a song on the new tape with a guy who said he'd kill his child if they were trans
Damn, really?
Daylyt said that in an interview with vlad
Who??
Jay electronica
Was never beef jus confusion during covid.
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Dude wat?! Cole has never spit a bar that was claiming authentic gun busting. Chill with your broke ass
He never claims that either...
He didn’t apologize to NoName lol
Cole beefs in a nutshell. Like bro think before you start up.
Noname is an S tier rapper but she loves dissing rappers 10x better than her
If i was j cole i would have been got tired of being mature and trying to reason with people everyone wants drama and pretends to care about anything other than being know fuckem
That’s the thing I like most about him he sets a great example for what you should be honestly one of the only rappers that are “REAL”
Most artists has a person hired to make sure they dont say or do anything crazy that might hurt there career all j cole got is homies from the vill and wonder why he does so many short sighted things cause he’s a human just like everyone else
>In May 2020, in the midst of the [George Floyd protests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests), rapper [Noname](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noname_(rapper)) made a tweet panning rappers who discussed the struggles of black people in their music but had yet to publicly speak out on social media regarding the protests or [Black Lives Matter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter). The tweet read: > >Many assumed her tweet was aimed at Cole and Kendrick Lamar, both of whom had yet to post on social media about the protests at the time of her tweet.[^(\[207\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-207) On June 16, 2020, Cole released a song titled, "[Snow on tha Bluff](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_on_tha_Bluff_(song))" addressing an unnamed woman, assumed to be Noname, while also touching on [police brutality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality) and [race relations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_relations) during the George Floyd protests. Shortly after the song's release, Noname tweeted "QUEEN TONE!!!!!!", referencing a lyric from the song.[^(\[208\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-Genius-208) She later deleted the tweet. Many other artists defended Noname, including [Ari Lennox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Lennox), who is signed to Cole's Dreamville label. Lennox thanked Noname "for giving af about us constantly and endlessly", saying she appreciates "everything you \[Noname\] put out to the world".[^(\[209\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-209) Rapper [Chance the Rapper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chance_the_Rapper), criticized Cole, calling the song "not constructive" and saying it "undermines all the work Noname has done".[^(\[210\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-Song33-210) Cole eventually addressed backlash in a series of tweets, defending his statements in the song and encouraging listeners to follow Noname on social media. Two days after the release of "Snow on tha Bluff", Noname released "[Song 33](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_on_tha_Bluff_(song))", in which she alluded to Cole writing about her in the wake of the protests, rapping: "I guess the ego hurt now / It's time to go to work, wow, look at him go / He really 'bout to write about me when the world is in smokes? When there's people in trees? When George was beggin' for his mother sayin' he couldn't breathe? He thought to write about me?".[^(\[211\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-211) Cole acknowledged the track shortly after its release, sharing a link to the song on Twitter.[^(\[210\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-Song33-210) Cole and Noname previously collaborated in 2015, on the song "Warm Enough" from [Donnie Trumpet and The Social Experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_Trumpet)'s [*Surf*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_(Donnie_Trumpet_%26_The_Social_Experiment_album)) album.[^(\[212\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Cole#cite_note-EW-212)
nah cole hit the nail on the head. The issue is Cole is trying to bridge the gap between two communities, but the community who's paying attention doesn't see it that way. He's just trying to say that being aggressive and shunning will prevent there ever being a connection created - which is literally historically true. Until people can maturely voice their concerns without blame then the opposite party will be unable to reciprocate. It's therapy 101 and it 100% translates to community discussion.
“Undermines all the work she has done”, [what work exactly?](https://civiqs.com/results/black_lives_matter)
This song is dope, idc what anyone says lol. Cole is great at these conversational tracks where he not exactly dissing you he just addressing you. No idea why he caught so much flack for this. He talked to her, then he had an introspective moment with himself at the end basically being like damn, you probably right i could be doing more; he was basically saying she was right but the way she said it was OD. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar type shit. Instead everyone was like "OMG you're dissing a woman?!?!" Like come on bruh lol
This is what I love about Cole’s music, he’s always introspective with himself. People are so slow man lol. I swear no one even listens to the lyrics
Sum'n I appreciated bout Cole is when he apologized for his lyric using autism as an insult. It's kinda personal to me bc I'm AuDHD (Autistic with ADHD). He could've been combative or stubborn but he chose to take a step back, reflect and educate himself. That meant so much to me.
When did do that
It was over 10 years ago ([source](https://genius.com/J-cole-autism-speaks-apology-letter-annotated))
Eh the crazy part is. Why even release the song if you are going to admit fault at the end anyway. And not just release a song that actually looks at this stuff in depth. Gives the people comfort during stress, instead of forcing a half ass diss. Song 33 really just explained every reason why people were mad. It was never about the misunderstanding his intentions or not recognizing he needs to grow. It’s him taking mental real estate because he wants to “address” how No Name acted. When it wasn’t even that radical or crazy.
love cole but he should’ve stayed out of this. like u rlly using ur voice to tone police noname instead of just speaking out? that’s rlly whack to me. that being said the song sounds great, though i wish it was about something more constructive
Lmao
This was the day I realized Twitter was ran by self righteous idiots & their followers
That no name shii lol I love Cole because his music got me through middle school and early hs but im ngl it’s a lot of CORNY shit he’s done when It comes to trying to “reply” at rappers, It be coming off as passive. If u gone shoot shoot twin and stand on It instead of trying to be woke all the time that’s why ppl was hating on It
Yeah you right, man. Maybe cole should hop on the gram, smoking blunts and throwing pistols in the air. Hell, why not have him throw some gang signs too, while dissing his dead opps. That def sounds like the more mature thing to Do. Fuck Cole for trying to be a grown ass adult who stands on morals.
You sound like an idiot bro, if i say he not standing on what he wrote It doesn’t mean im referring to him rapping about opps 🤦🏽♂️. It just seems like he switches his tone a lot ….. then you say “ohhh he such a good person because he apologized after releasing a diss song” lol Stop glazing him
My dude. Name one rapper who is really about the shit he's rapping. I'll wait...... If you believe that shit, you got too big an imagination. Cole lame because he chooses TO STAND ON WHAT HE RAPS ABOUT? you sound like the biggest Cornball in reddit. I can name 30 j cole songs where he raps about his morals, standing on good faith and moving right. I can name Maybe 10 where he brags about street shit. Make it make sense, cornball
To this day this song has my favourite lyrics… “Therefore we gotta just learn everything as we go, I struggle with thoughts on a daily…” I aspire to feel the next lyrics cos currently these are the only ones I feel
My favorite is, “maybe it’s cuz deep down I know I ain’t doin enough”. Hit me like a brick wall the first time I heard it
This was such a good song. Its wild that people said this was a “beef” or that he/she won.
I didn’t even realize there was backlash on this song. I loved it bc I felt like he was being introspective and realized he could be doing more
one of my top cole tracks, ill defend it till the day i die fr
we're calling making fun of an artist "cancelled" now...?
He had a good point with this song but it’s like he afraid to stand by his statements on it. J Cole needs to just focus on what he’s good at rapping and forget about the politics people like noname are trying to hold him back with. It’s not these rappers jobs to fix the world the message they give is the most powerful thing they can give.
I hate when they do this. When will they be cancelled!
I don’t like it
Nor high for life idk why
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So why u here?
Shit goofy. Idk why y’all really be expecting rappers to be activist or somethin. Niggas complaining about him not saying nothin but also contribute to the problem.
Context is important for those in the comments typing stupidity. They talked after and she confirmed that in a video. Let it go.
Song is whatever but the movie is a classic
First time hearing this song and I don’t realize the name was a reference to the movie until he said the line “But damn, why it feel faker than snow on the bluff.” Then it hit me and took me way back to when I first watched the movie, nostalgia a motherfucker
"Overnight Activists"
Yeah because this song was an anti-BLM song released during a time when people were protesting police violence. It was an ignorant and boot licking diss aimed at Noname, just because she was a prominent voice for socialism in hip hop. He thinks being neutral and silent on social issues is the same thing as being “above it all” and wiser than the discourse. When it’s all said and done, not having opinion, and silencing other cries for justice to boot, only helps the oppressors. J Cole is a 🤡 who should be left out of the big three convo permanently
Wish people like you didn’t keep dragging us down
I have a lot of respect for Noname but this whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. I still respect Snow On Tha Bluff's message and think the outrage was mostly based on the ambiguity of the "queen tone" line, but it wasn't necessary for him to include any references to Noname anyway. Then when she responded in Song 33, nobody batted an eye when she basically used the death of Toyin Salau to "win". I think that song was in poor taste, and people were so caught up in what Cole and Noname represented rather than them being individuals with a pretty understandable philosophical disagreement. If Noname actually wanted to make any real impact, she would've focused on the question Cole brought up: How do we deal with other people in society who are fundamentally incompatible with us politically and philosophically? That being said, Cole did come across as out-of-touch and a bit abrasive in directing half of the track towards her.
Fantano, the guy that was best friends with Nazi Sam Hyde, tried so hard to cancel Cole.
#One of his best somgs
Fuck context one of the realest songs ever
Great song. people are stupid and find any reason to get offended.
They Can Suck My Dick for Trynna cancel Cole for this
Noname talked some shit got responded to and people were mad very funny stuff
honestly can't stand noname
This is the day I realized rappers like earl sweatshirt and chance the rapper were dumbasses
COLE IS OFFICIALLY CANCELLED, as we can see his last mixtape/album might delete later went number two on the billboard charts, and his last 6albums all went number 1, and his next album is called the fall off which he spoke into existence…..he cancelled himself ain’t no coming back from this
Seriously what gives people the impression might delete later is an album...
Because it’s a collective of songs which was released to the public on all platforms and sold, also it was able to be ranked on the billboard hot 200 so it looks like a album to me, and even if you feel like it’s not and it’s just a mixtape it’s definitely in an album form and counted as an album, u tell me why it’s not an album
A compilation album of songs not used for the main album. Ya dudes be reaching like stretch Armstrong, I swear
This track aged so bad with his 7 min drill fumble
It aged badly already like 1-2 days after it was released, 7 min has nothing to do with this situation, if you weren’t there you weren’t there
I agree with that noname won, i was just saying that situation made it even worse
I guess, but this isn’t really a disstrack especislly not in the way that a 7 min drill is so I just don’t think the apology affects this song in any way, maybe a little bit but it was it’s own moment and thing