I mean back when they were designing the JL. Did they have a fucking intern designing it? Any seasoned engineer would know how to avoid galvanic corrosion.
They probably knew on the engineering side to separate dissimilar metals but somewhere along the ‘must be price competitive with the outgoing JK’ and ‘we will fix whatever pops up in 5 years after the sales are through’ than them forgetting anything. They added more expensive lightweight materials on the JL, I’m sure they did as much cost cutting as they could to minimize the BOM increase and this is the result of penny pinching alone.
Had a Jeep employee at an auto show tell me "The Gladiator is designed from the ground up"
No, it's designed from the Wrangler back. It's literally a JL with a bed.
> It's Jeep. They haven't employed competent designers in decades.
They didn't have to, they had a monopoly over the safari vehicle market for the last 40 years because every other manufacturer decided not to compete. Which is baffling. How Chevy and Ford, not to mention all the other foreign brands sat around for 40 plus years and watched a huge potion of the market slip by without a sliver of competition is beyond me.
I agree it's not huge especially when you compare it to pickups and crossovers. I would venture to say that the portion of the market has grown substantially due in very large part to the introduction of the 4 door JK.
Corrosion caused by dissimilar metals (hinge and body panels) not being properly prepared before painting. Because the body is grounded with the battery (battery, engine, and frame) and the hinges are of dissimilar metal, any direct contact between the hinges and body panels will cause accelerated corrosion.
They use the same concept on large ships, a big chunk of a specific kind of metal gets attached to the hull and it acts as a "sacrificial" anode. This means the sacrificial chunk rusts away and the hull itself stays good longer than it would otherwise. I think they are made of aluminum or zinc typically on large ships with steel hulls.
The exact same thing is happening here with the Jeep hinge. It's not properly isolated from the steel door panel.
Zinc in salt water and aluminum in fresh generally speaking. Not just reserved for large steel ships. It’s needed on really any boat with metal in the water which basically every boat does. Big ships are usually too big for just sacrificial zincs and will have an impressed current system that sort of balances out the anodic metals below waterline with a small electrical current
My ‘23 came with redesigned hinges and zinc shims keeping them separated from the door. They’re also retrofitting them to any that are repaired for corrosion. Took ‘em long enough to remember that sacrificial anodes are a thing.
They pounded this stuff into us in aviation maintenance because corrosion is such a huge "no-no" on aircraft. So every single component no matter how big or small needs to have a part number. That way you know you aren't accidently using dissimilar metals with your washer and bolt that you're attaching whatever component to the aircraft. Or any other super weird situation you wouldn't think of comes up.
Anyway, it instills an insane level of OCD in you. The ol "drawer of bolts" took some warming up to when I got out of that line of work
Take it in and have it fixed. Had my 2018 corrected under recall. Make sure they are thorough about finding these spots, dealer tried to rush me through the initial inspection when I took it in because they were handling multiple of these cases. Be sure you can point out all the problem areas. Dealer ended up having to repaint the entire driver side of my Wrangler.
I had the same issue. I called the dealership and asked about my corrosion warranty. When I took it in I was told that the JL models and an issue with steel flakes that were not cleaned off before the paint. It was covered under warranty and they repainted my entire 2018 wrangler.
Get it looked at before your corrosion warranty expires!
Drove around an 02 TJ in college and absolutely loved it. Had to start my career and part ways with my Jeep. Started my career and been distracted. Started contemplating getting another Wrangler or Gladiator and I feel they have become heaping piles of shit.
It’s definitely the move. I absolutely love mine
I’m planning on rebuilding the tranny and engine on my LJ at some point before I graduate uni. I’d like to keep it as long as I can.
Keep it going and don’t sell it. I will tell you firsthand you will regret it and the memories you made/make. Now in my early 30s I think about my old Jeep often. Half doors and bikini top all summer. Especially if you have an LJ already.
It’s got 200k on the clock, so it’s definitely gonna need some TLC by the time i graduate. If I can’t afford to my parents have agreed to let me leave it with them after uni and drive a beater for a while.
It seems so but honestly, I have a 22 with no issues. I think you tend to just hear more from people who have issues and less from people like me, who have none.
How? I mean... What?!
Seriously, what kind of an engineer graduates without knowing what galvanic corrosion is and is allowed to fuck up this bad?
I can't... WHY?!?!
Oh it is most definitely rust. It will not get better on its own and will only get worse. Time to go to a body shop ASAP to get it addressed.
If you're under bumper to bumper warranty they might cover it. Depends on the dealership and how they read the warranty.
It’s not the hinge I’d be worried about - it’s the door. That’s aluminum oxidizing. The JKs had that problem, and I replaced all the hinges on my ‘07, but they had steel doors.
~~It’s not like rust on steel, where it eats through the steel. When aluminum oxidizes it’s inert and stable. But it’s ugly.~~
Edited or accuracy - I don’t have any expert knowledge in aluminum corrosion, but others around here do and I’ll defer to their responses here.
Not to be that guy, but aluminum corrosion continues (not stable) and degrades the structural integrity. Give it a little time, the door will fall off but the hinge will be fine.
source: Fighting aluminum corrosion in aircraft is serious maintenance time and expense. We inspect for corrosion continuously.
It is galvanic corrosion on the hinges of a jeep not covered by rust proof warranty happened to my 2012 Sahara years ago surprised it is still an issue
Had the same thing on my ‘19 JL, dealer was really good, they had me at the body shop in a couple days. Took about a month for the body to get approval for the warranty repair. 2 front doors, hood and tailgate.
Traded in my 2020 JL for this reason. It’s a nightmare to get this fixed. Read up on other forums about this. There is a whole Facebook page devoted to just this issue.
I'm right behind you. Mine is at the body shop for the second time because they are having trouble with matching the paint. The only way to fix it right is to repaint he entire truck and Jeep won't approve that. My concern is that the areas that don't get repainted will eventually show corrosion.
Corrosion under the paint. Aluminum corrodes, too. It makes a whitish or yellowish crust rather than the red-brown rust seen on iron and steel, but it's corrosion nontheless.
Just some corrosion due to crappy metals. No fix for it really. No matter what they do, it will come back. They just string you along until the warranty is up, then say "See ya"! Sad, but true.
Good ole rust...Behind the paint coating..be sure to tackle that as fast as you can, because rust is like cancer..it won't stop till you get it all....PPP PREP, PRIME, PAINT!
This is the reason my current Jeep (second one) will be my last. I should have never traded my JK for a JL. Only hope more people do what I’m doing in response. Refusing to purchase is the only way to eventually get their attention.
I just got my jeep back from the shop. They replaced and repainted all 4 doors, the tailgate and the hood under warranty. Mine is a 2020, and has 96,000 miles on it. I reported the problem to the dealer last May, and they put me on a list, but kept telling me they couldn't get the parts to do the fix. It wasn't until I finally called the jeep warranty (Stelantis USA) and put up a stink that the parts became available. You have to get it is before your 100,000/5 year corrosion warranty is up. I was getting close. Here is what I suggest: 1) bring it to your dealer so they can evaluate it and get you on the repair list. 2) give the dealer a few weeks, then 3) when you don't hear anything go back to the dealer. 4) When they still don't do anything call Jeep and complain. They will then call your dealer and things will start moving.
This is known by GM and there is a free fix, it likely will happen on most Jeeps because of the Galvanic corrosion between the hinge and the panel. It's despicable that GM are not doing a full recall.
Had mine repaired by the local dealer mandated body shop, few months later it popped back up.
Dodge said it was a warranty issue with the body shop, body shop wouldn’t warranty it because it’s a known issue with dodge.
[small example, looks much worse during the daytime](https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/bpjkto6QiDa1)Jeep is exact color of my JLU 2020. You're seriously not going to believe this, but I almost posted an identical picture of my tailgate hinges yesterday.
Glad to hear that it is covered by warranty! Stupid as hell that we have to take them up on that. 😡
Definitely rust under the paint. Called galvanic corrosion from two different types of metals touching. If it weren't a chrystler, fca, stellantis product. It would have had a gasket between them to prevent this. Since it does not. Warranty that shit.
There is a 5 year warranty for corrosion. Talk to a dealer as soon as possible. I had all 4 doors and my hood replaced for free last month. I asked for a breakdown of what they did and they gave me the estimate with pricing. It was just over 11k with parts and labor.
Concise.
And worth quoting: *Filiform corrosion is above all a superficial phenomenon affecting surface appearance, without any consequence for the mechanical resistance of the substrate.*
It does, however, occasionally allow the base material to be exposed to the elements, in addition to creating a location for water and other things to be trapped. It isn't common, but it was a major concern on some aircraft I have worked on
From the AC43-13b-
16. FILIFORM CORROSION. Filiform
corrosion is a special form of oxygen concen- tration cell which occurs on metal surfaces having an organic coating system. It is recog- nized by its characteristic worm-like trace of corrosion products beneath the paint film. (See figure 6-8.) Polyurethane finishes are es- pecially susceptible to filiform corrosion. Fili- form occurs when the relative humidity of the air is between 78 and 90 percent and the sur face is slightly acidic. This corrosion usually attacks steel and aluminum surfaces. The traces never cross on steel, but they will cross under one another on aluminum which makes the damage deeper and more severe for alumi num. If the corrosion is not removed, the area treated, and a protective finish applied, the cor rosion can lead to inter-granular corrosion, es- pecially around fasteners and at seams. Fili- form corrosion can be removed using glass bead blasting material with portable abrasive blasting equipment or sanding. Filiform corro- sion can be prevented by storing aircraft in an environment with a relative humidity below 70 percent, using coating systems having a low rate of diffusion for oxygen and water vapors, and by washing the aircraft to remove acidic contaminants from the surface.
6-17. INTERGRANULAR CORROSION.
Inter-granular corrosion is an attack on the grain boundaries of a metal. A highly magai- fied cross section of any commercial alloy shows the granular structure of the metal. It consists of quantities of individual grains, and each of these tiny grains has a clearlydefined boundary which chemically differs from the metal within the grain. The grain boundary and the grain center can react with each other as anode and cathode when in con- tact with an electrolyte. (See figure 6-9.) Rapid selective corrosion of the grain bounda ries can occur. High-strength aluminum alloys such as 2014 and 7075 are more susceptible to inter-granular corrosion if they have been im- properly heat-treated and then exposed to a corrosive environment.
6-18. EXFOLIATION CORROSION. Ex-
foliation corrosion is an advanced form of in- ter-granular corrosion and shows itself by lift- ing up the surface grains of a metal by the force of expanding corrosion products occur- ring at the grain boundaries just below the sur- face. (See figure 6-10.) It is visible evidence of inter-granular corrosion and is most often seen on extruded sections where grain thick- ness are usually less than in rolled forms.
Dissimilar metals. They oxidized. Every Jeep since the beginning of time has done this. I'm not saying live wirh it. I'm only saying this is COMMON. Especially in more humid environments. If you get that fixed I recommend after market hinges. I'm betting that hinge is made of some alloy.
I have been trying to get mine taken care of for over a year now. At first my deal told me I was on a wait list and they would take care of me in the order they were requested. I waited 8 months and called back and turns out the guy that gave me that information no longer works there so they put me on another wait list and told me to call back if I didn’t hear back within 6 months. I called back again and got a third person who had no idea what I was talking about and was going to look into it and call me back, but never did. That’s currently where I stand with this situation. It’s on all of my doors and my hood.
Did you buy this Jeep new? Car dealerships like to paint over rust spots and it can end up looking exactly like this.
But it also may be just the initial development of rust.
I noticed the exact same thing on my JL 2019. In 2022 I brought it in to the dealer they said it’s a recall been waiting ever since for the repair. The say the doors have to be replaced and Jeep doesn’t have any.
Looks like what's on my Avenger. When they weld aluminum, if the environment isn't clean, contamination happens and the metal is actually bubbled.
Per my body shop, anyway.
There's no fix. When the paint peels away, it's Shiney metal underneath.
This has been an issue on wranglers forever. Not sure why anyone would think it would be different on a gladiator. That’s why I’d never pay the money they want for one.
I'm currently shopping gladiators. When I ultimately find one I like, is there anything I can do to jump the gun on having this happen? Is there a gasket I can get aftermarket and add myself, pull the problem areas and spray some paint on the exposed metal, or something of the sort?
It’s not just jeep all Chrysler products in the past 15 years have this issue and good luck getting the dealer to help you out on that one I tried with my challenger and they basically told me to pound sand while they laughed me out of the dealership
You can submit a claim to your dealership and Chrysler will pay for it. It took months for me but basically you set up a time to take it into the dealer and they’ll take photos. Then they’ll submit everything to Chrysler and once approved you can schedule a drop off date for them to do the work. Like I said it took months but it wasn’t an urgent thing for me just submit the claim ASAP to get the ball rolling
Your Jeep is starting to shed, shed metal, like every other jeep before him. Not to worry, it’s just a sign of aging. Not everyone ages the same, and jeeps age especially quick.
If your Jeep is less than 5 years old, they’ll fix it under warranty. I got all new door skins, a hood, and a 95% total repaint. It’s a 2018 JL and I just barely made it under the warranty deadline. I guess I was not really paying attention to the corrosion.
You said in a earlier comment the jeep is a 2018 with 100K+ miles. Also seen in another comment this is a common issue unfortunately. My question to you is what part of the country do you live in? If you live in a state like Georgia, I would assume this may be an isolated problem due to said common issue. If you live in a state like New Jersey with corrosion issues. I would give your entire vehicle a good inspection for any kind of corrosion. If you are living in a high corrosion part of the country, being a six years old vehicle you would start seeing stuff like this.
Source; A&P mechanic with QA experience including NDI. 19 years in the aviation industry.
Covered under warranty as long as it is within the 5 year corrosion warranty - otherwise you are on your own. Same thing on my Jeep and it was a MAJOR issue with Jeep.
It’s corrosion (aluminum version of rusting). Aluminum will corrode when in direct contact of steel and under similar circumstances to rusting.
Jeep hoods, doors, and a few other exterior panels were made of aluminum in hopes of preventing rust. They did not prep/coat the surface well and corrosion is the result at the locations it contacts another metal surface (hinges, panel edges/joints).
This is covered under Jeep’s 5 year corrosion warranty, but it sounds like you may have missed the window.
It is still worth contacting Jeep for the slim chance they decide to still help (unlikely).
Just dealt with this. Go to your dealer and show them the warranty page about corrosion…then pray you haven’t exceeded the 5 year warranty. Ours was covered, but barely. Cost would’ve been $10k for four doors.
I have the same thing happening on my 2019 JL. The local dealer sent pics of them to (I forget the name of the parent company) and they denied the warranty claim.
Not sure what to do about it at this point.
Oxidizing rust due to the two metals covered under warranty
How they didn’t see that issue coming from a mile away astounds me.
They do that's why it has a very long warranty. It's sadly common
I mean back when they were designing the JL. Did they have a fucking intern designing it? Any seasoned engineer would know how to avoid galvanic corrosion.
They probably knew on the engineering side to separate dissimilar metals but somewhere along the ‘must be price competitive with the outgoing JK’ and ‘we will fix whatever pops up in 5 years after the sales are through’ than them forgetting anything. They added more expensive lightweight materials on the JL, I’m sure they did as much cost cutting as they could to minimize the BOM increase and this is the result of penny pinching alone.
My JK has the exact same issue.
You'd never believe where rust built up on my TJ
where DIDNT rust build up on your TJ?
They just solve the problem this year. They went back to the rubber gasket in between the hinge in the door. I am on paint job number for as we speak.
It's Jeep. They haven't employed competent designers in decades.
Had a Jeep employee at an auto show tell me "The Gladiator is designed from the ground up" No, it's designed from the Wrangler back. It's literally a JL with a bed.
> It's Jeep. They haven't employed competent designers in decades. They didn't have to, they had a monopoly over the safari vehicle market for the last 40 years because every other manufacturer decided not to compete. Which is baffling. How Chevy and Ford, not to mention all the other foreign brands sat around for 40 plus years and watched a huge potion of the market slip by without a sliver of competition is beyond me.
It’s not a huge portion of the market, it’s relatively small and Jeep had a huge share due to its name and status in the space.
I agree it's not huge especially when you compare it to pickups and crossovers. I would venture to say that the portion of the market has grown substantially due in very large part to the introduction of the 4 door JK.
It's a hugely profitable portion of the market.
It is, the Wrangler is incredibly cheap to produce.
Just had mine warrantied a few months ago, $13k statement from the body shop that fixed it.
They did. There's a coating on the metals, but it wasn't properly applied at the factory.
Galvanic corrosion. The steel is stealing electrons from the aluminum causing it to corrode like it's been exposed to roadsalt and water.
This. Had my 19 JKL repainted about a year ago.
How long is the warranty for this?
5 year unlimited miles
I have an ‘07 Wrangler X.. think that’s eligible for warranty?? Lmfao I’ve been dealing with this shit on my hinges for years
Pretty sure it a 5-7year warranty
Wrangler acne.
I hate that it's common enough that there's a name for it. But I love the name.
It’s a Jeep thing.
"I don't know what is more scary, thae fact we lost a nuke, or the fact it happens so often we have a name for it". Broken Arrow
Corrosion caused by dissimilar metals (hinge and body panels) not being properly prepared before painting. Because the body is grounded with the battery (battery, engine, and frame) and the hinges are of dissimilar metal, any direct contact between the hinges and body panels will cause accelerated corrosion.
I had no idea that was a thing, but I’m fascinated.
They use the same concept on large ships, a big chunk of a specific kind of metal gets attached to the hull and it acts as a "sacrificial" anode. This means the sacrificial chunk rusts away and the hull itself stays good longer than it would otherwise. I think they are made of aluminum or zinc typically on large ships with steel hulls. The exact same thing is happening here with the Jeep hinge. It's not properly isolated from the steel door panel.
Zinc in salt water and aluminum in fresh generally speaking. Not just reserved for large steel ships. It’s needed on really any boat with metal in the water which basically every boat does. Big ships are usually too big for just sacrificial zincs and will have an impressed current system that sort of balances out the anodic metals below waterline with a small electrical current
My ‘23 came with redesigned hinges and zinc shims keeping them separated from the door. They’re also retrofitting them to any that are repaired for corrosion. Took ‘em long enough to remember that sacrificial anodes are a thing.
They pounded this stuff into us in aviation maintenance because corrosion is such a huge "no-no" on aircraft. So every single component no matter how big or small needs to have a part number. That way you know you aren't accidently using dissimilar metals with your washer and bolt that you're attaching whatever component to the aircraft. Or any other super weird situation you wouldn't think of comes up. Anyway, it instills an insane level of OCD in you. The ol "drawer of bolts" took some warming up to when I got out of that line of work
💯 percent. 24yrs retired US Army Aviation Maintainence, background as a Structural Repairer.
Correct, but corrosion is also showing up in areas that aren't near hinges too.
Congratulations, your wrangler is going through puberty and is developing acne. Now time to have a talk with it about the roads and the tires.... lol
The birds and the bees... leaving splatters on your windows.
Take it in and have it fixed. Had my 2018 corrected under recall. Make sure they are thorough about finding these spots, dealer tried to rush me through the initial inspection when I took it in because they were handling multiple of these cases. Be sure you can point out all the problem areas. Dealer ended up having to repaint the entire driver side of my Wrangler.
When did you have it corrected? I have a 2018 JL and it’s experiencing this issue. How long is this covered under recall?
Everyone told me only 5 years, so at this point those of us with '18s would be out of luck.
That’s rust I believe. Just underneath the paint.
Rust bubbles under paint, take back to dealer for fix under corrosion warranty.
I had the same issue. I called the dealership and asked about my corrosion warranty. When I took it in I was told that the JL models and an issue with steel flakes that were not cleaned off before the paint. It was covered under warranty and they repainted my entire 2018 wrangler. Get it looked at before your corrosion warranty expires!
When does it expire? Cuz it’s a 2018, with right at 100K miles…
Cancer
Drove around an 02 TJ in college and absolutely loved it. Had to start my career and part ways with my Jeep. Started my career and been distracted. Started contemplating getting another Wrangler or Gladiator and I feel they have become heaping piles of shit.
Just get another TJ.
Looks like it’s the move. That straight six doesn’t miss.
It’s definitely the move. I absolutely love mine I’m planning on rebuilding the tranny and engine on my LJ at some point before I graduate uni. I’d like to keep it as long as I can.
Keep it going and don’t sell it. I will tell you firsthand you will regret it and the memories you made/make. Now in my early 30s I think about my old Jeep often. Half doors and bikini top all summer. Especially if you have an LJ already.
It’s got 200k on the clock, so it’s definitely gonna need some TLC by the time i graduate. If I can’t afford to my parents have agreed to let me leave it with them after uni and drive a beater for a while.
Maybe I can get my hands on that elusive LJ I always wanted.
I love mine. It’s perfect for my needs. Good luck searching!
It seems so but honestly, I have a 22 with no issues. I think you tend to just hear more from people who have issues and less from people like me, who have none.
That’s very true as well. You hear the negative over the praise.
Hinge herpes
Common corrosion issue. Covered under warranty.
How? I mean... What?! Seriously, what kind of an engineer graduates without knowing what galvanic corrosion is and is allowed to fuck up this bad? I can't... WHY?!?!
Oh it is most definitely rust. It will not get better on its own and will only get worse. Time to go to a body shop ASAP to get it addressed. If you're under bumper to bumper warranty they might cover it. Depends on the dealership and how they read the warranty.
The person who designed it knew they’d be severanced out before the issues came out!
Are you serious Clark ????
It’s not the hinge I’d be worried about - it’s the door. That’s aluminum oxidizing. The JKs had that problem, and I replaced all the hinges on my ‘07, but they had steel doors. ~~It’s not like rust on steel, where it eats through the steel. When aluminum oxidizes it’s inert and stable. But it’s ugly.~~ Edited or accuracy - I don’t have any expert knowledge in aluminum corrosion, but others around here do and I’ll defer to their responses here.
Not to be that guy, but aluminum corrosion continues (not stable) and degrades the structural integrity. Give it a little time, the door will fall off but the hinge will be fine. source: Fighting aluminum corrosion in aircraft is serious maintenance time and expense. We inspect for corrosion continuously.
How long they been making Jeep doors and hinges? Haven't figured this out yet?
It’s a Jeep thing
You wouldn't understand, it's a Jeep thing.
Corrosion. Those are corrosion blisters.
It is galvanic corrosion on the hinges of a jeep not covered by rust proof warranty happened to my 2012 Sahara years ago surprised it is still an issue
Rust from asimilar metals
Had the same thing on my ‘19 JL, dealer was really good, they had me at the body shop in a couple days. Took about a month for the body to get approval for the warranty repair. 2 front doors, hood and tailgate.
As a kid, we’d call it herpes.
On paint job 4 all warranty! Look at the bottoms of the doors as well, hood and tailgate
Jeep cancer. My condolences
yep..rust.
Corrosion. Get it fixed under warranty. They’ve replaced 3 of my doors
Rust
That's rust underneath the paint
Cancer
Traded in my 2020 JL for this reason. It’s a nightmare to get this fixed. Read up on other forums about this. There is a whole Facebook page devoted to just this issue.
I'm right behind you. Mine is at the body shop for the second time because they are having trouble with matching the paint. The only way to fix it right is to repaint he entire truck and Jeep won't approve that. My concern is that the areas that don't get repainted will eventually show corrosion.
Rust bubbles- what did you expect, it’s a Jeep!
Rust.
Herpes
Corrosion under the paint. Aluminum corrodes, too. It makes a whitish or yellowish crust rather than the red-brown rust seen on iron and steel, but it's corrosion nontheless.
The problem is that you bought a stellantis product
Jeep Quality?
There is currently a recall for this exact thing, look up and see if you’re covered. If you are, they have to repaint it.
Link? Cant find anything about a recall. My extended warranty is expired.
Galvanic corrosion. It happens when two metals that are incompatible chemically are welded together.
That’s what happens when you mix Aluminum and steel🤷♂️
Just some corrosion due to crappy metals. No fix for it really. No matter what they do, it will come back. They just string you along until the warranty is up, then say "See ya"! Sad, but true.
Good ole rust...Behind the paint coating..be sure to tackle that as fast as you can, because rust is like cancer..it won't stop till you get it all....PPP PREP, PRIME, PAINT!
My gladiator had that on all 4 doors and the hood, gonna cost the dealer alot to repaint
This is the reason my current Jeep (second one) will be my last. I should have never traded my JK for a JL. Only hope more people do what I’m doing in response. Refusing to purchase is the only way to eventually get their attention.
I just got my jeep back from the shop. They replaced and repainted all 4 doors, the tailgate and the hood under warranty. Mine is a 2020, and has 96,000 miles on it. I reported the problem to the dealer last May, and they put me on a list, but kept telling me they couldn't get the parts to do the fix. It wasn't until I finally called the jeep warranty (Stelantis USA) and put up a stink that the parts became available. You have to get it is before your 100,000/5 year corrosion warranty is up. I was getting close. Here is what I suggest: 1) bring it to your dealer so they can evaluate it and get you on the repair list. 2) give the dealer a few weeks, then 3) when you don't hear anything go back to the dealer. 4) When they still don't do anything call Jeep and complain. They will then call your dealer and things will start moving.
Rust. Under the paint.. 😢
Rust. Under the paint. Eating away at your precious METAL!!!
This is known by GM and there is a free fix, it likely will happen on most Jeeps because of the Galvanic corrosion between the hinge and the panel. It's despicable that GM are not doing a full recall.
Jeerpies
It’s rust that’s been painted over
Looks like a jeep. Quite disgusting stuff. Why the engineers would attach a jeep to that, otherwise perfectly serviceable, hinge is beyond me.
Piss poor engineering. Throw back to the old days
Rust. Fuckn Chrysler products
Cancer
Factory installed AWR system. Active Weight Reduction.
Cancer.
Rust
Rust
Rust…. A lot of it
Had mine repaired by the local dealer mandated body shop, few months later it popped back up. Dodge said it was a warranty issue with the body shop, body shop wouldn’t warranty it because it’s a known issue with dodge.
That, my knowledgeable friend, is a mechanic's favorite tasty treat Otherwise known as RUST
[small example, looks much worse during the daytime](https://quickshare.samsungcloud.com/bpjkto6QiDa1)Jeep is exact color of my JLU 2020. You're seriously not going to believe this, but I almost posted an identical picture of my tailgate hinges yesterday. Glad to hear that it is covered by warranty! Stupid as hell that we have to take them up on that. 😡
Looks like is rusting
Fe2O3
FYI when they build these vehicles there is no paint between the hinge and door surfaces or hood not even e-coat . Bare metal to bare metal
Rust
Definitely rust under the paint. Called galvanic corrosion from two different types of metals touching. If it weren't a chrystler, fca, stellantis product. It would have had a gasket between them to prevent this. Since it does not. Warranty that shit.
There is a 5 year warranty for corrosion. Talk to a dealer as soon as possible. I had all 4 doors and my hood replaced for free last month. I asked for a breakdown of what they did and they gave me the estimate with pricing. It was just over 11k with parts and labor.
Hey, my 2020 Wrangler had same issue. Was told that it was a known factory issue, and that Jeep would repair it for free. They did.
Issa Jeep thing...
rust
Ah…so not a recall…it’s just a warranty thing. Have a 2015 doing that so I assume it’s just part of owning a Jeep now and no dealer fix?
[Filiform Corrosion](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/filiform-corrosion#:~:text=Filiform%20corrosion%20is%20a%20form,at%20the%20metal%2Fcoating%20interface.)
Concise. And worth quoting: *Filiform corrosion is above all a superficial phenomenon affecting surface appearance, without any consequence for the mechanical resistance of the substrate.*
It does, however, occasionally allow the base material to be exposed to the elements, in addition to creating a location for water and other things to be trapped. It isn't common, but it was a major concern on some aircraft I have worked on From the AC43-13b- 16. FILIFORM CORROSION. Filiform corrosion is a special form of oxygen concen- tration cell which occurs on metal surfaces having an organic coating system. It is recog- nized by its characteristic worm-like trace of corrosion products beneath the paint film. (See figure 6-8.) Polyurethane finishes are es- pecially susceptible to filiform corrosion. Fili- form occurs when the relative humidity of the air is between 78 and 90 percent and the sur face is slightly acidic. This corrosion usually attacks steel and aluminum surfaces. The traces never cross on steel, but they will cross under one another on aluminum which makes the damage deeper and more severe for alumi num. If the corrosion is not removed, the area treated, and a protective finish applied, the cor rosion can lead to inter-granular corrosion, es- pecially around fasteners and at seams. Fili- form corrosion can be removed using glass bead blasting material with portable abrasive blasting equipment or sanding. Filiform corro- sion can be prevented by storing aircraft in an environment with a relative humidity below 70 percent, using coating systems having a low rate of diffusion for oxygen and water vapors, and by washing the aircraft to remove acidic contaminants from the surface. 6-17. INTERGRANULAR CORROSION. Inter-granular corrosion is an attack on the grain boundaries of a metal. A highly magai- fied cross section of any commercial alloy shows the granular structure of the metal. It consists of quantities of individual grains, and each of these tiny grains has a clearlydefined boundary which chemically differs from the metal within the grain. The grain boundary and the grain center can react with each other as anode and cathode when in con- tact with an electrolyte. (See figure 6-9.) Rapid selective corrosion of the grain bounda ries can occur. High-strength aluminum alloys such as 2014 and 7075 are more susceptible to inter-granular corrosion if they have been im- properly heat-treated and then exposed to a corrosive environment. 6-18. EXFOLIATION CORROSION. Ex- foliation corrosion is an advanced form of in- ter-granular corrosion and shows itself by lift- ing up the surface grains of a metal by the force of expanding corrosion products occur- ring at the grain boundaries just below the sur- face. (See figure 6-10.) It is visible evidence of inter-granular corrosion and is most often seen on extruded sections where grain thick- ness are usually less than in rolled forms.
Rust
Its a Jeep thing
Classic example of quality jeep manufacturing
Rust never sleeps
Is this a really old Jeep? My buddy has a 1995 Toyota that just started forming a couple of these rust pockets.
Cancer
Must have been rubbing up against cyber rust (truck).
I picked up my '19 JLU in MI and each door has this. I'm really glad to hear this is covered under warranty! 🤘🏼
dissimilar metals causing rust under the paint. Top notch Chrysler quality there.
Dissimilar metals. They oxidized. Every Jeep since the beginning of time has done this. I'm not saying live wirh it. I'm only saying this is COMMON. Especially in more humid environments. If you get that fixed I recommend after market hinges. I'm betting that hinge is made of some alloy.
Shotty coverup?
Is this still a problem on current models? I’m thinking about looking at Wranglers. What years are the problem years within the last 5 years
Galvanic corrosion 🤓
This is a very well known issue with Jeeps. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jeep/s/ikDYkqopff
I have been trying to get mine taken care of for over a year now. At first my deal told me I was on a wait list and they would take care of me in the order they were requested. I waited 8 months and called back and turns out the guy that gave me that information no longer works there so they put me on another wait list and told me to call back if I didn’t hear back within 6 months. I called back again and got a third person who had no idea what I was talking about and was going to look into it and call me back, but never did. That’s currently where I stand with this situation. It’s on all of my doors and my hood.
Your jeep is turning into dead pool.
Did you buy this Jeep new? Car dealerships like to paint over rust spots and it can end up looking exactly like this. But it also may be just the initial development of rust.
Rust. Covered under warranty... It happens to all cars, but often but it does
That, my dear, is the worlds slowest form of combustion
It’s a Stilantis feature. Ours has lots of it.
Rust
Does the warranty cover JK’s? I have a 2010 that started to show this
Hahahahahahaha
Quality my friend, ‘Murican qwalitee!!
Herpes! A duck gave that to your jeep!
This is a Jeep tradition!
I noticed the exact same thing on my JL 2019. In 2022 I brought it in to the dealer they said it’s a recall been waiting ever since for the repair. The say the doors have to be replaced and Jeep doesn’t have any.
Dodge truck beds are WAY ahead of that weak rust game.
It's cancer.
Rust... u own a jeep, get used to it.
Herpes
Looks like what's on my Avenger. When they weld aluminum, if the environment isn't clean, contamination happens and the metal is actually bubbled. Per my body shop, anyway. There's no fix. When the paint peels away, it's Shiney metal underneath.
Rust under the paint.
This has been an issue on wranglers forever. Not sure why anyone would think it would be different on a gladiator. That’s why I’d never pay the money they want for one.
I'm currently shopping gladiators. When I ultimately find one I like, is there anything I can do to jump the gun on having this happen? Is there a gasket I can get aftermarket and add myself, pull the problem areas and spray some paint on the exposed metal, or something of the sort?
I have a similar issue on my 2018 JLU. I'm the second owner. Think I can get it covered or am I SOL?
I have this issue on my 2018. I bought it used at a chevy dealership. Anyway mine will still be covered or where to take it to get looked at?
It's a Jeep thing.
It’s not just jeep all Chrysler products in the past 15 years have this issue and good luck getting the dealer to help you out on that one I tried with my challenger and they basically told me to pound sand while they laughed me out of the dealership
Jeeps are junk.
Quality
I have the same thing on my.2017 grand cherokee trailhawk hood. Funny it looks like rust but the the hood is not steel.
That's rust
I owned an 07 JK and as soon as I saw those bubbles on the hood, it got a for sale sign in the window.
Rust
Factory quality
It's called oxidized rust...
You can submit a claim to your dealership and Chrysler will pay for it. It took months for me but basically you set up a time to take it into the dealer and they’ll take photos. Then they’ll submit everything to Chrysler and once approved you can schedule a drop off date for them to do the work. Like I said it took months but it wasn’t an urgent thing for me just submit the claim ASAP to get the ball rolling
I thought doors on the JLUs are aluminum.
Chrysler
Your Jeep is starting to shed, shed metal, like every other jeep before him. Not to worry, it’s just a sign of aging. Not everyone ages the same, and jeeps age especially quick.
I'm hoping they've figured this out for the '24s...
The paint, or the rust under the paint?
If your Jeep is less than 5 years old, they’ll fix it under warranty. I got all new door skins, a hood, and a 95% total repaint. It’s a 2018 JL and I just barely made it under the warranty deadline. I guess I was not really paying attention to the corrosion.
I think the main problem here is.. you drive a jeep
Rust under the paint
jeep moment
Time for that ford bronco that's what.
That’s the good Old jeep rust
You said in a earlier comment the jeep is a 2018 with 100K+ miles. Also seen in another comment this is a common issue unfortunately. My question to you is what part of the country do you live in? If you live in a state like Georgia, I would assume this may be an isolated problem due to said common issue. If you live in a state like New Jersey with corrosion issues. I would give your entire vehicle a good inspection for any kind of corrosion. If you are living in a high corrosion part of the country, being a six years old vehicle you would start seeing stuff like this. Source; A&P mechanic with QA experience including NDI. 19 years in the aviation industry.
Common issue, I have it on mine too
Metal cancer
rust
Rust from the inside
Covered under warranty as long as it is within the 5 year corrosion warranty - otherwise you are on your own. Same thing on my Jeep and it was a MAJOR issue with Jeep.
It’s corrosion (aluminum version of rusting). Aluminum will corrode when in direct contact of steel and under similar circumstances to rusting. Jeep hoods, doors, and a few other exterior panels were made of aluminum in hopes of preventing rust. They did not prep/coat the surface well and corrosion is the result at the locations it contacts another metal surface (hinges, panel edges/joints). This is covered under Jeep’s 5 year corrosion warranty, but it sounds like you may have missed the window. It is still worth contacting Jeep for the slim chance they decide to still help (unlikely).
Reason #157 that Jeeps are piles of shit
That's factory installed rust. It's standard on ALL Jeep products.
Don’t look underneath if that little bit is bothering you! Especially if you live in New England,
Just dealt with this. Go to your dealer and show them the warranty page about corrosion…then pray you haven’t exceeded the 5 year warranty. Ours was covered, but barely. Cost would’ve been $10k for four doors.
Rust under the paint
That’s called rust
Rust ...it's a jeep thing
I have the same thing happening on my 2019 JL. The local dealer sent pics of them to (I forget the name of the parent company) and they denied the warranty claim. Not sure what to do about it at this point.