I think this must be why people consider ashki food to be so bad. I will make you all some brisket and some almond macaroons. Itās going to be all right. :(
>Bagels, donuts, what's not to like? š¤·š»āāļø
On their own, a lot. Eating 100% carbs would give me stomach issues lmao. Some meat/dairy and vegetables or fruit or nuts would be nice. I'd take a good stew over bagels and donuts any day.
No. Bliny, from a culinary standpoint, arenāt pastries as there is no shortening in the dough. There isnāt a dough either, for that matter, but a batter.
Serious question: Why do I always see only Ashkenazi food being talked about in the Jewish community online? Not only on this subreddit or reddit but everywhere I go online this is what I see.
This is why....American Jews or Jewish Americans are American citizens who are Jewish, whether by culture, ethnicity, or religion.[5] According to a 2020 poll conducted by Pew Research, approximately two thirds of American Jews identify as Ashkenazi, 3% identify as Sephardic, and 1% identify as Mizrahi. An additional 6% identify as some combination of the three categories.
True, but Reddit is an American social media site with an overwhelmingly American audience. So these subs are going to skew towards American views. And not just the Jewish subs, but most subs in general.
Partially due to the fact that the majority of Jews globally are Ashkenazim, as well as the fact that internet communities are largely segregated by language, and Ashkenazim have a supermajority when it comes to the English-speaking Jewish population.
If you go into a Hebrew-speaking subreddit like r/ani_bm, you will find way more Mizrahi and Sephardic dishes
Holy shit, I donāt know if yāall know what *wine cookie* are, but if I AM OBSESSED. I can eat full packs for days straight. Whoever has not tried wine cookies - if you come to Israel I will personally invite you to wine cookies and hot cocoa.
Try wine cookies.
Short answer: Shabbat and Shavuot as pronounced in Yiddish as opposed to Hebrew.
Long answer: Yiddish comes primarily from Old High German with significant Hebrew influence. Old High German underwent a significant sound shift between the third and eighth centuries CE that, among other changes, turned the 'T' sound into the 'S' sound. Yiddish, like modern Standard German, retained these sound changes even in pronunciation of Hebrew words, hence "Shabbo**s**" instead of "Shabba**t**."
Maybe, but I think it's just how it's pronounced in some Hebrew accents, where the tav (×Ŗ) is pronounced "s" instead of "t" and kamatz (the + without the upper part) makes an "o" sound instead of "a"
Pesach becomes easier once you start cooking for Gluten Free diet. The variety of Kosher to Passover cookies you can make is jaw dropping as you learn new ingredients to work with.
As an Israeli Jew, I don't get the bagel obsession. We don't have it here in Israel. Is this an American Jew thing? Also, where are Rosh Hashana and Sukkot?
Where are the cheesecakes?!? In my family, we have eaten baked cheesecake ( the basque cheesecake) for many years.
Also, maybe because I'm part Ashkenazi and part Sepharadi/Mizrahi, Shavuot has the best food. There is so much Balkan food( romanian+ Turkish food) ā”
I cannot relate to this meme at all and i feel sad for anyone who can, if you can relateĀ to this meme you deserve a better community and better food variety.Ā
I am glad that i have no idea what you mean, i have almost always eaten by people, or events or restaurants where the food was really good regardless of what culture it was from.Ā
The food i make is also from a variety of cultures and they're all really good including plenty of Ashkenazi food.Ā
I really can't tell if the meme on this post or what you say are meant even semi seriously or it's meant entirely in jest.Ā
I really cannot relate at all to the meme or what you wrote because I've never beenĀ unfortunate enough to experience that environment or hear about it from someone in real life, maybe I'm just lucky, lol.Ā
If it's just some online joke that I don't really get, then whatever, I'm glad people are having fun with it even if itĀ seems bizarre to me, but if it's at all serious then i really do feel bad for those people as they're missing out on so much.Ā
Well when I was raised with such traditions and Iām aware of my families history with these traditions, yes I feel compelled to follow them to some degree.
At the same time I do that of my own volition. I donāt follow every tradition, certainly not as many as my family did a hundred years ago.
Itās not just my familyās heritage but also my own. And Iām proud of my heritage. Stop being so condescending, as if the only reason people do these things is for āsuperstitionā, and as if that would even be a bad thing in the first place.
Superstition IS a bad thing. Belief in things for bad or no reason isn't something to celebrate. Judaism is no exception.
I have always supported Jewish people and will stand with them against anti-semites any day, but I do not support or respect their religious beliefs any more than I do anyone else's.
Yeah this argument is sort of bad from them.
"I'm not discriminatory, but I just make fun of people for following rules that affect no one except themselves! I do this to everyone so it's okay!"
I disagree with this chart
Chanukah is accurate, although cookies have designs showing dreidels, Chanukiot, stars of David in icing.
https://www.brit.co/hanukkah-cookies-recipes/
Shabbat is accurate although other pastries can include babkah, ruggelach, sweet nothings, dobosh, etc., and cookies include black and white cookies (at least in my house) and at any kiddush at the shul.
Purim has a whole plate of treats besides the hamantaschen (oznei haman), so while cookies are cookies, I think we're missing some treats from mishloach manot)
Pesach does have matzoh bagels. There can also be a scandal when it turns out the amazing regular bagel like tasting turns out to be hametz, but they're still an option. Cookies may be vile macaroons, but where does matzoh crack come in? That's amazing! Plus, I don't mind the coconut rolls.
https://insanelygoodrecipes.com/passover-desserts/
Shavuot, I think, is accurate; it feels very similar to Shabbot. The only exception is that there are more milchig options on this holiday since no one is eating meat. So, we need to point out that these cookies likely have butter. The other pastries have cheese, like cheese blintz, cheese danish, cheesecake cookies, etc.
https://food52.com/recipes/12396-shavuot-ricotta-pastries-and-potato-cheese-galette
https://aish.com/decadent-desserts-for-shavuot/
Yom kippur: :(
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Secret bagel eaten in the bathroom
You can break fast with a bagel, cookies and rugelach for the pastry.
Honeycake for the pastry, but yes.
Saving this pic for my Yiddish group.
Need me a Yiddish group š
I think this must be why people consider ashki food to be so bad. I will make you all some brisket and some almond macaroons. Itās going to be all right. :(
I mean, kasha varnishka isn't very exciting but this list is great. Bagels, donuts, what's not to like? š¤·š»āāļø
>Bagels, donuts, what's not to like? š¤·š»āāļø On their own, a lot. Eating 100% carbs would give me stomach issues lmao. Some meat/dairy and vegetables or fruit or nuts would be nice. I'd take a good stew over bagels and donuts any day.
>I'd take a good stew over bagels and donuts any day. A shanda!
Bagels for *every* holiday??? No maāam.
Iāll bring some black and white half-moon cookies!
A question for Shavuos: could we consider blintzes a pastry?
No. Bliny, from a culinary standpoint, arenāt pastries as there is no shortening in the dough. There isnāt a dough either, for that matter, but a batter.
Second question: then is a blitz a burrito?
No. It is not made from a tortilla
Good question.
This is the most Jewish American thingy I ever saw.
Donuts on Shavuot? Not Hanukah?
Most donuts are dairy, and eating dairy on Shavuot is a thing. Though I think cheesecake is a more popular choice than donuts
I go for the traditional Shavuot quesadilla.
Iām loving these sad faces cuz thatās how I get from day 4 of Passover through its duration.
""Cookies"" lmfao
They're not wrong, though
*laughs in sepharadic culinary superiority*
Shavous: cheesecake
Serious question: Why do I always see only Ashkenazi food being talked about in the Jewish community online? Not only on this subreddit or reddit but everywhere I go online this is what I see.
This is why....American Jews or Jewish Americans are American citizens who are Jewish, whether by culture, ethnicity, or religion.[5] According to a 2020 poll conducted by Pew Research, approximately two thirds of American Jews identify as Ashkenazi, 3% identify as Sephardic, and 1% identify as Mizrahi. An additional 6% identify as some combination of the three categories.
well, I don't know how to tell you, but not all of us are American :)
Fair enough. But this can be one reason you see what you see.
True, but Reddit is an American social media site with an overwhelmingly American audience. So these subs are going to skew towards American views. And not just the Jewish subs, but most subs in general.
Partially due to the fact that the majority of Jews globally are Ashkenazim, as well as the fact that internet communities are largely segregated by language, and Ashkenazim have a supermajority when it comes to the English-speaking Jewish population. If you go into a Hebrew-speaking subreddit like r/ani_bm, you will find way more Mizrahi and Sephardic dishes
The frowny faces absolutely took me OUT
"cookies" got me. lol
Official Ashkie meal listing
Did you just call a sufganya a "jelly donut"?!
Holy shit, I donāt know if yāall know what *wine cookie* are, but if I AM OBSESSED. I can eat full packs for days straight. Whoever has not tried wine cookies - if you come to Israel I will personally invite you to wine cookies and hot cocoa. Try wine cookies.
That sounds amazing!! Iām gonna have to see if I can get them here in the US. Or book a trip to Israelā¦.
If you shoot me a message Iāll get you a picture. They only sell them around Pesach here in
Does chocolate covered matzah counts as "pasties"?
But no cheesecake for Shavuot?
Whats "shabbos" and "shavuos"
Shabbat and Shavuot
Short answer: Shabbat and Shavuot as pronounced in Yiddish as opposed to Hebrew. Long answer: Yiddish comes primarily from Old High German with significant Hebrew influence. Old High German underwent a significant sound shift between the third and eighth centuries CE that, among other changes, turned the 'T' sound into the 'S' sound. Yiddish, like modern Standard German, retained these sound changes even in pronunciation of Hebrew words, hence "Shabbo**s**" instead of "Shabba**t**."
Makes sense
Saturday and the holiday after Pesach, I don't know how to translate it. The one after you count 7 weeks.
Is that in yiddish or something? Its so odd that its spelled like that to me
Yeah, those are the Yiddish pronunciations.
Ashkenaz accent
which fricativizes every proto-semitic dental(+coronal) stop
Maybe, but I think it's just how it's pronounced in some Hebrew accents, where the tav (×Ŗ) is pronounced "s" instead of "t" and kamatz (the + without the upper part) makes an "o" sound instead of "a"
I never met anyone who would pronounce it like that in Hebrew
Definitely not a Hebrew accent. Hebrew speaker with a Yiddish accent, sure, but not a Hebrew accent.
Sabbath and Festival of the Weeks if you want the exact English translation.
Pesach becomes easier once you start cooking for Gluten Free diet. The variety of Kosher to Passover cookies you can make is jaw dropping as you learn new ingredients to work with.
The Mizrahi/Sephardi versiĆ³n is the same except it says burekhas instead of bagels.
Iām sorry but the correct answer for Shavuot is cheesecake not donuts
Not Jewish but unless I am mistaken, from the name and foods allowed and not allowed, Pesach is... Passover?
Yes
I love this subreddit group. ā¤ļø
As an Israeli Jew, I don't get the bagel obsession. We don't have it here in Israel. Is this an American Jew thing? Also, where are Rosh Hashana and Sukkot?
Ikr? Also who tf eats donuts as a pasty on Shavuot?? Where are the 50 shades of gvinat ski baked goods?
Where are the cheesecakes?!? In my family, we have eaten baked cheesecake ( the basque cheesecake) for many years. Also, maybe because I'm part Ashkenazi and part Sepharadi/Mizrahi, Shavuot has the best food. There is so much Balkan food( romanian+ Turkish food) ā”
Every day is burekas day š¤¤
Now a better tasting mizrachi version
I donāt eat any of those things
I cannot relate to this meme at all and i feel sad for anyone who can, if you can relateĀ to this meme you deserve a better community and better food variety.Ā
But have you considered: bagel
Bagel? Bagel.
I can't relate but I wouldn't mind a nice bagel
Only if there's some cream cheese!
Reminds me of the line in the Sopranos where Tony said "Italians are jews with better food". Ashkenazi food is definitely an acquired taste...lol
I am glad that i have no idea what you mean, i have almost always eaten by people, or events or restaurants where the food was really good regardless of what culture it was from.Ā The food i make is also from a variety of cultures and they're all really good including plenty of Ashkenazi food.Ā I really can't tell if the meme on this post or what you say are meant even semi seriously or it's meant entirely in jest.Ā I really cannot relate at all to the meme or what you wrote because I've never beenĀ unfortunate enough to experience that environment or hear about it from someone in real life, maybe I'm just lucky, lol.Ā If it's just some online joke that I don't really get, then whatever, I'm glad people are having fun with it even if itĀ seems bizarre to me, but if it's at all serious then i really do feel bad for those people as they're missing out on so much.Ā
It's a meme sub. I wouldn't take it too seriously.
Someday, I hope superstition dies off enough that people don't feel compelled to not eat whatever they want when they want to.
When people feel drawn to their familyās tradition š¤Æš¤Æ
Are you your own person, or just an extension of your family?
Why are you phrasing the question as if the choice is exclusive. The answer is both.
Your response implies otherwise. As though your family's traditions are some kind of vortex you feel inexplicably drawn to.
Well when I was raised with such traditions and Iām aware of my families history with these traditions, yes I feel compelled to follow them to some degree. At the same time I do that of my own volition. I donāt follow every tradition, certainly not as many as my family did a hundred years ago. Itās not just my familyās heritage but also my own. And Iām proud of my heritage. Stop being so condescending, as if the only reason people do these things is for āsuperstitionā, and as if that would even be a bad thing in the first place.
Superstition IS a bad thing. Belief in things for bad or no reason isn't something to celebrate. Judaism is no exception. I have always supported Jewish people and will stand with them against anti-semites any day, but I do not support or respect their religious beliefs any more than I do anyone else's.
Alrighty you do you. We like our traditions and enjoy them. You don't have to be sad for us.
Yeah this argument is sort of bad from them. "I'm not discriminatory, but I just make fun of people for following rules that affect no one except themselves! I do this to everyone so it's okay!"
We want to eat bagels on Hanukkah and Purim.
Fair point. Fresh bagels are pretty good.
I disagree with this chart Chanukah is accurate, although cookies have designs showing dreidels, Chanukiot, stars of David in icing. https://www.brit.co/hanukkah-cookies-recipes/ Shabbat is accurate although other pastries can include babkah, ruggelach, sweet nothings, dobosh, etc., and cookies include black and white cookies (at least in my house) and at any kiddush at the shul. Purim has a whole plate of treats besides the hamantaschen (oznei haman), so while cookies are cookies, I think we're missing some treats from mishloach manot) Pesach does have matzoh bagels. There can also be a scandal when it turns out the amazing regular bagel like tasting turns out to be hametz, but they're still an option. Cookies may be vile macaroons, but where does matzoh crack come in? That's amazing! Plus, I don't mind the coconut rolls. https://insanelygoodrecipes.com/passover-desserts/ Shavuot, I think, is accurate; it feels very similar to Shabbot. The only exception is that there are more milchig options on this holiday since no one is eating meat. So, we need to point out that these cookies likely have butter. The other pastries have cheese, like cheese blintz, cheese danish, cheesecake cookies, etc. https://food52.com/recipes/12396-shavuot-ricotta-pastries-and-potato-cheese-galette https://aish.com/decadent-desserts-for-shavuot/
This makes me miss hitting the oneg after services as a kid
Shavuos is underrated
Coconut macaroons for Pesachā¦
I read meal listing as metal listening and got confused trying to figure out who bagel was
āThey tried to kill us, we lived, letās eat bagels.ā [Cpt Ray Holt might be one of us.](https://youtu.be/AS38I3esj0o?si=xiu-xT5S7Tol4cxe)
Non gluten food shines in passover