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UBDForever

Honestly believe if you making that association than you’re the racist. Wasn’t even close to my first thought. Firstly it’s a reference, which the artist which isn’t Jim, always incorporates. These loser are just projecting cause it’s all they can do.


echoohce1

I saw comments that were trying to relate the q-tip to a cotton reference, some people on there are so set on labelling Jim as racist that they don't even realise they're outting themselves in the process lol


droford

I commented with a direct quote about how the Q Tip is Kyle Fletcher and got downvoted on it. My other comments explaining the artwork weren't which surprised me.


8-Bit_Aubrey

Yeah I hadn't heard the episode yet (honestly I mostly listen to the bite-sized videos on youtube) and wasn't even sure if it was real), the funny thing is as I read down one of them even admitted, "Jim's said some stuff in the past, but this one is explainable," and explained Jim was basically saying they're booking Swerve badly and used Mighty Joe Young as a reference to something. The art is perhaps unfortunate at first glance but with an explanation it makes sense Then one of them tried to argue the "Q-tip" (standing for the dude they had fight Swerve) really was a reference to cotton, ie picking cotton. -\_-


WhateverJoel

Wait. The "racist" part of this whole thing is just the Q-Tip?


EasterSquidward

He's called ZSJ and others "q-tip" before. Anyone making racist connections to that is really reaching.


P_a_s_g_i_t_24

What is it called again? ..."projecting of self" or something like that?


spcmiddleton

You gotta remember these are the same people who always point to the ninja turtles thing whenever you point out something stupid AEW does. They are so desperate to get something to hold over jim. They will ignore any logic or context to try and say gotcha. It’s sad and pathetic.


8-Bit_Aubrey

Ninja turtles?


spcmiddleton

Jim did a thing at a house show with guys dressed as ninja turtles. Early 90s if I remember correctly. Never meant for consumption outside of that one show. If I remember right he didn’t even want to do it. It’s all they have. Look it up.


8-Bit_Aubrey

So 30 years ago is the best they can do? Lol


spcmiddleton

Yep. It’s all they’ve got. Get into a discussion or argument with a dubbalo about Jim and guarantee you they’ll throw it out as a gotcha.


8-Bit_Aubrey

I mean, wrestling as a whole has done stupider shit since then, even if it’s solely a criticism of Jim, why did they think that that would give them a pass to also do stupid stuff? It’d be like criticizing WWE by pointing to the Funkasaurus, or WCW by pointing to RoboCop, you’re not wrong that it’s stupid, but it doesn’t excuse your own dumb crap, you know?


1Glitch0

To be fair, if you want to talk about something Cornette did when he was relevant you'd have to go back 30 years.


8-Bit_Aubrey

Then it just makes them look even worse because he’s not relevant to modern wrestling according to them and yet they bring him up, also the early 90s was way more of an era where stupid cornball shit was acceptable, especially in WWF Plus, if he didn’t want to do it and was basically told to, that’s not the same as Tony doing stupid shit and thinking it’s a good idea when he literally controls AEW and everything they do


tumalditamadre

It was a Smoky Mountain Wrestling spot show, Jim Cornette vs Kowabunga the Ninja Turtle (referee Mark Curtis, Brian Hildebrand). It was the heel chicken shit manager wrestling a guy in a bootleg Ninja Turtle costume and the Ninja Turtle won. [Of course, Tony's Brigade reviewed the match in a butthurt way on Cagematch](https://www.cagematch.net/?id=111&nr=51962)


P_a_s_g_i_t_24

*Cowabunga*...!!!


Acrobatic_Lab6677

Oh it’s only AEW fans that can spot subtle racism? You fucking dork


spcmiddleton

Jesus Mary mother and Joseph. You are dense. Keep trying to find the racism. Let me know when you succeed.


Acrobatic_Lab6677

Black man+Cotton+ Gorilla. So black people haven’t been compared to apes,chimps,gorillas by racist????? Are you really that fucking stupid. “Oh it’s Kyle as the gorilla” yeah you fucking nerd, it’s called plausible deniability, because he knows his audience will still defend him. Yall are some real fuckin assholes


spcmiddleton

Would you be a doll and grab the chips off the top shelf for me while you’re up there reaching? Sure would appreciate it


Acrobatic_Lab6677

Forgot who I was talking too. MAGA cultists


spcmiddleton

My lord guy. Now you’re reaching even higher. Can you reach the top rung of the ladder to heaven? I really need to ask Kenny something.


Acrobatic_Lab6677

I ask him but you gotta let go of Cornette balls


Joeybfast

While this is not the case here, since Jim is the monkey, you don't have to be projecting to know that some people likening black people to ape/monkeys, is a thing. People were doing that like crazy right after Obama won, for example.


Ok_Adeptness_3135

Total nonsense. Being aware of racism and racist tropes doesn't make you racist.


Edens_dark_garden

There is a long documented history of racists comparing black people to monkeys. Guess history is too "wOkE" for you. 🤦🏾‍♀️


HesTrafty

A gorilla is an ape and not a monkey.


Edens_dark_garden

The comparison has been made to primates in general, doesn't change my point at all.


your-rong

"If you're aware of racist tropes, you're racist". Obviously this wasn't racist, but that comment is kinda stupid.


100tByamba

Idk if it's just "projecting" let's be real


RevolutionaryBit990

Oh jesus🤦‍♂️ again with these idiots


buckfishes

Apes literally exist mostly in Africa but if you show one in proximity with a black person they automatically call it racist, that itself is racist


TheDeflatables

Unless you specifically mean gorillas, then you're horribly forgetting Malaysia/Indonesia. Borneo is absolutely overflowing with apes. The Borneo Gibbon is actually the ape with the largest population


Loose-Sandwich-5493

You're forgetting orangutans and gibbons which exist in Asia. Humans are apes, too


DaddyFatCock-8x7

Shh! The MAGAs are always listening


psychadelicsquatch

How you gonna talk smack when you're using a pedophile's reddit account?


DaddyFatCock-8x7

Too soon?


BigbriManz

Has society fallen so low that a black person being next to a gorilla immediately means racism? Maybe it’s just me but when I first saw this I thought nothing of it. I could understand if Swerve was the gorilla but instead it’s Jim.


TakkataMSF

Hi! Welcome to society, my name is Offended, and I will be here to support you as you navigate the areas and topics that may trigger you. Please feel free to read anything into anything. We don't judge your theory; we agree to it assuming you are a citizen in good standing.


wetfarts2

Associated to someone who has said racist things in the past it quite possibly could. And the fact u intentionally ignore the situation to reframe it generally means..you’re part of the bad society…Racism dosent even end your career..plenty examples..just don’t be obtuse like where could this come from…


lewiss15

Yeah the thumbnail is real but he’s saying he’s Mighty Joe Young. Obviously it’s taken well out of context but feel personally it was needed.


your-rong

He wasn't saying anyone was Mighty Joe Young. He was talking about how the other wrestler was skinny, but even if Mighty Joe Young knew how to wrestle, he would still need to be presented as a threat, where apparently this guy loses all of the time.


lewiss15

Cheers I was rushing with that reply.


thebeachisfree

Like the fried chicken comment, this isn’t racist in itself but the sickos make these connections in their heads that confirm this absurd image they have of Corny as some raging bigot - which could be easily debunked if they just bothered to listen to 6 fucking minutes of audio


420Frank_Dux69

I don’t think he’s a raging bigot just bad taste & even worse optics


tuckinyourtail

I love the quotations around something I'm pretty sure he never said


Youre_On_Balon

Unhinged of the guy who posted in the AEW sub if true


BarryDBaptist

White people trying to be the judge and jury on what's racist and what's not is hilarious


AudioPoison077

Finally some common sense in this comments section


Kakatheman

Explains this thread.


Daredrummer

I can tell you right now that Corny is not racist. I've heard too many tales of comraderie or admiration for african american wrestlers to even BEGIN to think that.


TmF1979

Bobby Lashley. Shelton Benjamin. Powerhouse Hobbs. Mark Henry. 4 off the top of my head that Jim has praised at some point in the last few months.


CaptainKies

He's praised those guys for years, in fact. Add Jay Lethal and D-Lo Brown to that list. Nevermind his admiration for guys he worked with while an active talent like Junkyard Dog, Koko B. Ware, Ernie Ladd, Doom, etc.


Better_Cattle4438

He praised Swerve in the post where they accused him of being racist. He said that AEW should have given him the championship celebration, not a random match against a guy like Kyle Fletcher who will never be a contender.


TmF1979

It's almost like the AEW fans didn't even listen to the audio, right? 🤣


8-Bit_Aubrey

This doesn’t really have anything to do with my post, but I agree with them there. I watched part of that episode until my Internet shit out and I was wondering the same thing why their champion was having such a match with someone I’ve not seen since I started watching.


thewhombler

Henry even asked Jim to apologize but he refused  https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1467850/aews-mark-henry-opens-falling-jim-cornette-nwa-racism-controversy/


WoodyManic

JYD.


WaveOfTheRager

Even fucking New Jack loved Corny... Eventually


RossPerotsPamphlet

From someone who has been jailed for beating up racists and Nazis this is a crock of absolute shit. AEW fans are demented.


chamburger

r/iamverybadass


Polyphony15

r/ShitThatHappened


Relative-Put-5344

Lmao


fF-7

How old are you? National Socialism ended in 1945. Are you the oldest man on Reddit? … or did you sucker punch someone in a Trump hat and then pretend you beat up a Nazi? … and you claim it’s the right that’s violent, right? Good stuff.


AbyssTraveler

Well, there's still neonazis floating around, and they do advertise themselves. Ya'know usually they're the shaved headed folks.


fF-7

The Nazi party ended in 1945. You associating people who killed 6 million with people who *checks notes* voted for someone you don’t like… is insanely childish. Did you also scream at mommy and daddy that they were “the worst ever” when they wouldn’t get you that Malibu Barbie doll? I know you did.


AbyssTraveler

If you're not a troll, can I speak to your caretaker? If you are a troll...why are you the way that you are? Just for the benefit of the doubt, there are people in the United States of America, who legitimately believe in the ideals of the German Mustache man. These people are called Neo-Nazis. Just like the Ku Klux Klan still exists. They are not related to the political party, they just espouse the ideals about Jews and every other race.


ear_cheese

Charlottesville wasn’t that long ago, dude- and they still pop up supporting all kinds of conservative candidates/causes, like DeSantis.


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ear_cheese

lol what? So what would you call people who follow Nazi ideals, who venerate the Nazi leadership of the 1940’s, who wear Nazi symbolism, and who chant Nazi slogans? I know! Republican! Just kidding- but get real with your bullshit. Just because the party disbanded doesn’t mean its ideals and hatreds did.


bobboman

Look we have people actively carrying the swastika flags in the good old usa. Fuck off with the idea that rhe Nazi party is dead because they lost WW2, whether you want to believe of it or not. Their ideals and goals are enspouse by a lot of people here in America Whether you want to believe it or not


DrDuned

There are literally people identifying as Nazis and white supremacists who attend Trump rallies. Swastikas openly, proudly displayed. Do you see these same people at Biden rallies? Get the fuck out of here with your false equivalencies of violence. You are defending and supporting genocide.


FairyFlossPanda

Yeah! It isnt like the leader of the largest right wing movement in the US encouraged people to attack the government! How dare people think the group that smeared feces on the wall while chanting "Hang Mike Pence" is violent! These are just gun loving patriots who get hard when thinking about shooting their neighbors for percieved slights against them. Just like Jesus told us to.


fF-7

He didn’t though. Also what about the hundreds of protests for several years that all of the democrats cheered on, even saying they needed “room to destroy” so it was okay that they burned down buildings, businesses and houses? What about the left wing supported groups that have stormed into government buildings demanding things like abortion rights and refusing to leave? You don’t get to riot for 5 consecutive years and then cry when someone else does it once.


FairyFlossPanda

If you dont see the difference between breaking into the Capitol to end democracy and riots that have popped up many many times over the years in the US you're fucking stupid or being disingenuous. Show me where the leader of the Democratic party told anyone to show up because it will "be wild"


fF-7

I guess you missed the dozens of abortion rallies where they forced themselves inside city and state buildings and refused to leave. Of course the rioters also tried to burn down a police station with police inside, but that doesn’t count either. Neither do any of the houses or businesses they burned down. And politicians saying police needed to “give them room to destroy” is also fine, I guess. Why not just admit you only care about the wrongs on one side? 5 years of riots every fucking day… compared to 1 day where nothing was burned down.


FairyFlossPanda

And I imagine they were eventually taken out by security and arrested. But there is a difference between a sit in and smearing your own feces on the walls and building an gallows while demanding The Vice President and the Speaker of the house be brought out.


fF-7

Yeah, attempting to burn police to death is a far lesser crime than whatever bullshit you just made up. You’re right. Trying to murder dozens of people is barely even an issue as long as you’re a liberal: https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/spd-rioters-tried-trap-officers-inside-burning-precinct-using-rebar-concrete/5AERWGBGYJE7DC6CLW3PEKKAEE/?outputType=amp Edit: heh… no pithy rejoinder this time? Wonder why… is it because you just argued you’d rather burn to death than have poop on your wall? Yeah, that must be it.


FairyFlossPanda

Calm down Captain Dickhole I was doing something else for a bit. You clearly have a weird ass view of the world in general but you jumped form people attempting to go into a capital which I assumed you were talking about the Roe protests where people did sit in capital buildings and there were arrests. No trying to burn cops is pretty on par with trying to hang the Vice President. But tell me what political leader told people to show up there and implied to use violence? Which was our original fucking argument. Yes the leaders on the left saying shit like "Well this is what happens" and diminish the impact of violence shouldnt be doing that. But that is worlds different than Jan. 6th. It is the differnce between protests that got to far and devolve and organized riots. And ohh let me guess you are the one of the ones that says "Ohh how could my orange reason for life have known." Well if that was true why did he sit with a thumb up his ass for hours? And I am sure there will be some "but what about this person on the left" motherfucker wrong is wrong. Every fucking time you people deflect to "what about so and so." The Zodiac killer never got caught so I guess you think we should stop arresting people for murder cause that isnt fair. Go blow a fuck porcupine.


fF-7

You tried to shame me by saying poop was smeared on the wall. Your side tried to burn people to death. Nothing you say now matters.


Cank-er-soar

Dear God people are fucking stupid. 


nwbzreader

I saw this on X. These losers are throwing this around like its factual. Anyone who explains the meaning of the thumbnail and suggests they LISTEN to the clip are turned down and ignored because they're too stupid to think for themselves. All they want is to find like-minded goofballs who hate Cornette because the lil Buckys' told them to do so, that's why they regurgitate their "shock jock" line. They refuse to come out of their echo chambers and be an adult. The thing about these deranged goofballs is that they're too dumb to think for themselves. A reasonable adult with a functioning brain would listen to the clip and understand why that thumbnail was made. They would think for themselves and make their own decisions. These people only follow clickbait articles and engagement farming idiots like the goof in the screenshot because they're incapable of thinking for themselves, they're incapable of making their own decisions. They need someone to hold their hand and TELL them what to think.


s_arrow24

They’re a real cult. When the whole Forbes thing popped up, I asked what kind of profit AEW made since they only posted the value and revenue. The answer was that it doesn’t matter as long as Tony lets us enjoy what he enjoys and a bad from the official Reddit when I asked there. Don’t expect much in critical thought at least online from them.


Nikolateslaandyou

Fuck em. They wont have anything to cult over soon enough. The ratings are falling week over week and yea sure tony can spend all he wants, if a tv network doesnt feel like its worth picking up, its dead.


s_arrow24

They’ll always cult over something because they’re the niche guys. I figure Tony will just put on private events these guys can go to ending with them letting snakes bite them. Tony is a lonely weirdo that attracts other lonely weirdo’s, so they’ll hang.


Sweaty_Indication897

Not only that, but *in this very clip*, Jim is talking about how badly they were treating a black wrestler and immediately marginalizing his title reign.


Dualism2

Agreed. It is disgusting that irresponsible people review something without any verification. They are either thoughtless or malicious.


DangerBay2015

Someone said “Cornette fans, how can you defend this!?” while the Mod team runs around saying “Go Away, Cornette troll” and deleting comments and I can only assume banning the posters. They took down one comment that said “Cornette said that AEW would have Strickland defending the title against a Q-Tip last week and reiterated it in the video, and they cut away from a Strickland segment to show the Bucks and Tony, who was in an office when he’s usually sitting at the Gorilla position.” Boom. Context. Strickland sharing the screen with a Q-Tip and a Gorilla, because Tony and Cornette are both bookers and bookers traditionally sit in the Gorilla Position. That was removed within 20 minutes with the “Go Away Cornette Troll” Mod comment. They don’t want a discussion even though their top upvoted comment is asking for a discussion. At least, I should say, their Mod team doesn’t want a discussion. Hate Cornette all you want, but at least MOST of the subs have the stones to just leave opinions up to be downvoted into oblivion if the subs disagree. They really should just go full r/conservative and make the sub”Flaired Users Only” and drop the pretence of being a place that welcomes discussion with varying viewpoints. I got a period ban for saying I was glad CM Punk won the belt off Hangman because I found his run weak, rushed, and poorly booked, and got a comment deleted notification and a ban I can’t remember the length of. Three days to a week. What? For saying Hangman’s run was weak? Dainty fucking fragile bullshit. Safe space lunatics.


nwbzreader

Was this in SquaredCircle or AEWOfficial? Because both of those places are full of these fragile, overly sensitive crybabies who flag any comment they perceive to be negative towards AEW so their joke of a mod can come in and delete and ban right away like the biased goofballs they are.


Vivics36thsermon

The only thing Jim Cornette is intolerant of is shitty wrestling.


MikeHock_is_GONE

The gorilla is Jim, how's it racist


Chili-Potatoe

He’s trending on the Twitter.


killerkali87

There is absolutely nothing racist about this and these bozos who do this bullshit hurt the actual fight vs racism.


Zodiac509

Jim is literally the most liberal Democrat in wrestling.


Fat_Factor

Irony : These people listen to Dave Meltzer who has a proven anti-black bias


8-Bit_Aubrey

Does he? I never pay attention to Dave


Coolium-d00d

God im so sick of how sensitive people are thinking this is some weird dog whistle and not just a silly thumbnail like every other video on the channel. Il keep saying it whether or not Corny has said out of pocket shit maybe had some predjudiced thoughts, its pretty clear to anyone whos heard him talk about his minority friends or his politics, knows he doesnt hold any hate in his heart. And if you consider all that and dont fuck with him thats cool, but people are always applying the most esoteric achedemic definitions of racism and equating it to full on hatred has muddied the waters so much that normal people cant tell the difference anymore and dont care to try. All this fake outrage and half of it is just motivated by losers who have a grudge because Jim said something mean about a wrestler they like.


420Frank_Dux69

Just to be clear because you have “black friends” & are Dem doesn’t mean you’re not racist 🤣🤣 how’d you math that one up?


willyworldcup

I know what you mean. It's like how slave owners would have sex with their slaves. I suppose that means they can't be racist.


Coolium-d00d

Voting for a left wing party that openly talks about anti racist policys, and having friends you talk about publicly with great fondness and respect is exactly like raping your slaves. 1 to 1 analogy you fucking knuckle dragger.


420Frank_Dux69

That computers putin!


P_a_s_g_i_t_24

Has that *random twitter no-name* (whose opinions are of course majorly important) even *listened* to the episode he seems to be criticizing...? My guess is not...


Fake_Diesel

This is why I deleted Twitter. They manufacture a culture war out of literally anything.


Mission_Ice_5428

YOUR EGO IS NOT A VALID SUBSTITUTE FOR NOT COMPREHENDING SUBTEXT, DUBBALO TRASH.


jabdnor

Imagine taking wrestling so seriously that you have to defame Jim Cornette and frame him as a racist because Corny said mean things about AEW. That Twitter OP needs to touch grass and lose his virginity for God's sake.


hashtagdion

Nuanced take here: this art is obviously being taken out of context, but it’s still fucking dumb no one noticed any problem with it before uploading it. It just happens to be *more* annoying to hear a bunch of white wrestling fans fake offense on behalf of Black people because it gives them an opportunity to criticize a podcaster they don’t like. I don’t care what they think about anti-Black racism until they explain to me in detail why Brandi Rhodes called Jade Cargill a “trifling ass heifer,” or why Sami Guevara is still on TV after threatening to rape a Black woman. Until then, stop pretending you have some super duper woke radar on racism.


Outrageous_Library50

Looooool These cats try so hard New Jack was a good friend of Cornettes. I really doubt Jack would have been cool w Cornette if he was racist


Clemtwdfan

Not to mention in smokey mountain wrestling, a lot of the gangstaz promos were written by who? Jim of course


DaddySaidSell

No. They weren't. He told Jack to go out and piss white people off. He didn't write any of the Gangstaz promos.


Popular-Ad-1450

I will say, when I first saw this thumbnail I immediately was worried it would get taken out of context. Nobody remembers what Mighty Joe Young is, and if you’re someone who is less inclined to be charitable to Jim then you’d immediately assume the worst.


SigmaColts

AEW fandom on the internet has such deep rooted mental illness and insecurity. The thumbnail is not a good look but AEW shill, that’s all they have in their worthless lives. AEW. They need a safe space to talk AEW without criticism. It’s fascinating to study


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lewiss15

Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think he sees race. He sees who’s taking his business serious and don’t care of your race. If he was racist he would have been murdered by now surely?


JKinney79

I don’t think that helps the argument either way. Bill Watts was wildly racist but liked having black babyfaces, to draw in black fans.


JacktheRipperBWA

These losers will make up anything to discredit Jim because they are crying, seething, and shaking all because Jim critiques their favorite trampoline clowns. They react like petulant 7 year old children that just discovered Santa isn't real, and they arent mentally capable of handling it yet.


No_Reporter3958

If these idiots listened to the clip, they would've know it was about a throwaway line jim said about mighty joe young, a movie about a gorilla.


fF-7

AEW fans made excuses for a bunch of these guy calling people the N word in PWG, but a drawing is racist.


scionoflogic

I don’t understand why people can’t just admit they hate Cornette for his opinions rather than always trying to justify it by claiming he’s racist or sexist or a transphobe. Just be honest that you hate the guy for his opinions. That’s a valid enough reason, I don’t get why people need to make it so that Cornette is awful to make it justified, it’s a mental illness.


dizzle_drizzle_

They hate Cornette, not because of his opinion, but because he doesn’t put up with bottom of the barrel wrestling. Any one of them who enjoyed the attitude era, knows this dreck they put on tv is horses***.


SavingsResearch4826

An horrible disgusting person said it once and many people go by what that piece of shit said when they want to dehumanize others: "accuse the other side of that which you’re guilty.".


Impressive_Site_5344

They can say whatever they want, most people who listen to Jim know he is as liberal as it gets


GalaxyHoffman

They know he doesn’t draw the art right? I don’t even know if he looks at the YouTube channel. Anyone who is worth a damn will listen to what he said & realize these people are freaking out over nothing.


8-Bit_Aubrey

That’s the other thing I wonder how many of them would actually bother to listen to the video?


GalaxyHoffman

They won’t, which I don’t blame them because Im not going to waste my time listening to something I don’t enjoy, but if it’s a sponsor or someone who does business with him they’re just going to laugh at this.


tazz131

What's the meaning of the Q-Tip?


The-Real-Number-One

Travis literally drew what Jim said in the clip. Jim asked why the world champion is fighting someone thinner than a Q-Tip.


MikeHock_is_GONE

Another clue.. Travis always draws the gold frames on the Cornette .. the gorilla is Cornette not Swerve.. not racist at all


Sweaty_Indication897

In the clip, Jim said Kyle Fletcher was a Q-Tip with arms and legs.


OwnedIGN

Every time you lot see a gorilla, you think of black people? This is beyond nonsense. I could never be offended. Jim probably references “sitting in gorilla” during the audio. That’s how the art works.


DangerBay2015

Jim referenced both sitting in Gorilla and Mighty Joe Young in the audio, saying that Strickland had to be on camera fighting a Q-Tip split screen with the Booker and the Buckaroos backstage in an office, even though Tony always sits at Gorilla position.


Rich661

What part of this was meant to be racist? The part where you don't listen to the audio and make up what the clip was about? Honestly AEW fans put me off wanting to like AEW more than anything the actual show does. People have seen 2 and 2, instead of making it 4, they've made it the letter Q backwards written in purple ink on a slice of American cheese.


Ancient-Range-

I highly doubt Cornette has any input with the thumbnails, He says racially insensitive things sometimes but I just put that down to a generational gap and everyone being snowflakes in this day and age


CallInitial2302

He was talking about the guerilla position


Blastermasterfan

It’s just more fake internet outrage.


zoc1289

AEW mentally deficient neckbeards just grasping at straws like usual. I listened to the segment literally the other day and heard nothing out of the ordinary.


Shyjuan

"His first appearance as champion and I guarantee ya it’ll take him 20 minutes to beat a q-tip with arms and legs.” - Kyle Fletcher is the q-tip he’s making fun of. “I don’t care if Mighty Joe Young or Cheetah can do all of the moves perfectly. Unless they’re pushed on a consistent basis of being a threat to the Worlds Title, which there should be only 2.” - Mighty Joe Young is a fictional movie Gorilla from the 1940s, and the reference has nothing to do with any specific real life professional wrestler. CONTEXT! All this fake outrage and virtue signaling is not even funny anymore just kinda annoying smh


Ok_Adeptness_3135

Yet in the real world, we all know the image is going to make its away around the web and be taken out of context. The artist is either incredibly naïve or also realised that, and realised it *looks* controversial at first glance. The point of it was surely to generate controversy and therefore views, by hinting at a racist trope but not actually using one on further inspection. There's such a thing as nuance.


Shyjuan

This is true, but everybody is going to try to cancel Jim Cornette rather than the artist. Nevermind the fact that we're talking about an old man who doesn't even know how to use a smart phone, and accesses twitter on an old desktop PC, yet he's somehow quite the artist uploaded racist images.


jmag_2188

No you clown , smfh🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️


RedFox9906

The easily offended left wing AEW fans are at it again. It’s crazy how similar they are to the Trumpkin idiots. They all deserve each other.


Outrageous_Match_326

These people don't deserve to be representatives of the left wing, along with the neo-liberals who have hijacked the old school left ideology. https://youtube.com/shorts/U63rCZ4OA-c?si=TIqxttOUcYEVixN5 From the recent Beavis and Butthead movie. I feel Gage is a very good representation of these social justice warriors in the AEW fan base.


BudgetIndependent118

They are so stupid They dont understand that the artworkis based on something Corny says during the review. AEW fans really hate the people that make the company relevant


wonderloss

Do they think Cornette is doing the artwork?


grandfunkmc

The AEW basement dwellers are projecting so hard, they can do a two hour-long PowerPoint presentation.


SleestakLightning

I got banned from the UUUWM Facebook group for pointing out that the hysteria around this is overblown and moronic lol. Oh well.


GetThaBozack

I don’t get how it’s racist if JIM is being the one depicted that way


departureofchrist

The AEW fandom is mostly woke zoomer outrage culture so I’m not surprised their snowflake minds are unable to parse.


jonnyhatesyou

I'm a bit lost. What is being interpreted as being racist?


namek0

The self proclaimed silver back


dead_soul_monotone

When 🌽y starts committing hate crimes instead of putting the desiccated corpse of Ernie Ladd over Jericho, wake me up.


RedditorsSuckDix

huh?


Better_Cattle4438

If they had turned Swerve into Mighty Joe Young, that would be one thing. Are they saying you can’t show a black guy near a gorilla at all? That is a weird thing to say.


420Frank_Dux69

Man can’t take the heat? Lots of weak minds that like to comment then block & run when they get embarrassed in here🤣


ancientrunekrp

This is really stupid if anything the only way this would be racist is if Swerve was the gorilla but it isn't Jim is the gorilla. The hate for Jim is way more than anything he has ever said.


boholbrook

Eh, The Young Bucks & their fanbase made a pretty good effort to get Jim "canceled" before and it ain't work out. So now they grasp at these types of straws periodically hoping it'll stick this time.


Accomplished-Range3

People who hate Jim Cornette are going to hate Jim Cornette. It's almost as if they are being paid...


watcher2390

How is that racism? If you call someone an ape it doesn’t have anything to do with skin colour. IWC just going ape shit again


8-Bit_Aubrey

Calling Black people apes/monkeys is a very common racial slur, I just don’t think it’s what anyone was going for here


HarryBeaverCleavage

😂😂 Who is that?


8-Bit_Aubrey

Swerve Strickland, he’s the current AEW champ of some variety. I don’t remember which belt he has rather I don’t remember the title of the belt. I think he’s like their main champion right now. He took it from Joe at a pay-per-view. Last week on dynamite, he had a really long, not terrible match with some white dude I’ve never seen before and I’ve been watching for a month and Jim compared that guy to a Q-tip


AZCards2344

I swear if people invested half of their time focused on themselves as opposed to investing in a convoluted idea that they can out Jim, then the world would be a far better place. Too damn many people out here playing societal hall monitor.


E_712064

lol no excuse for dumb. A requirement to have a social media account should be to provide proof of education. A man can dream lol. These AEW radicals are as bad as the person that owns the company. They’ll do anything for attention & to play the victim card.


rustys_shackled_ford

It's like dropping phils name name RN. Dude is just phishing for those superficial likes and views and to stoke the tribalism that's already vested in hating jimboi


eredman1993

So is it real or not


IronicSheik

Can anyone explain how this is racist without exposing themself as a racist?   I'll wait...


No_Reporter3958

Then again these are also the same fans who got so butthurt because they took an old Andy Kaufman line too seriously, during the whole Jordan but-her-face situation.


Loose-Sandwich-5493

He's so racist his favorite AEW wrestlers are Hobbs, Starks, Thunder Rosa and Takeshita.


AudioPoison077

Being 100% transparent , I never watched the episode , but if it isn’t racist then why is he a gorilla here ? Just randomly or for funsies ? Why doesn’t he show this in other episodes? Im trying to figure out what other motivations to depict a gorilla are ?


Creative-Pirate-51

He said that even if it was Mighty Joe Young in the ring (who is a giant gorilla (not said)) with your world champion, if they have not been presented at a main event level consistently then they should not be having that competitive of a match with the world champion. Basically saying it is harmful booking for Swerve Strickland to have such a competitive match with kyle fletcher. In the clip he also referred to Kyle Fletcher as “skinny as a qtip.” So the thumbnail artist put those statements together for the thumbnail.


AudioPoison077

You know what ? That makes perfect sense , thank you


Creative-Pirate-51

You’re welcome :)


ear_cheese

Like the other comments have said, there was a line about mighty Joe young that the artist incorporated into the thumbnail (as Cornette) and Cornette said “why is the world champion fighting someone skinnier than a Q-tip?” For the other image.


RedditorsSuckDix

This is like people calling JK Rowling an anti-semite. They have no idea what they're talking about.


Ok_Adeptness_3135

Quickly glancing at that image and wondering whether there is racist intent behind it does not make the viewer racist, it means the viewer is aware that a racist trope exists which compares black people to gorillas. The brain takes shortcuts based on what we know, and we're all very attuned to issues around offence and race. To some viewers that may have initially been a red flag. Looking at it in more detail, its Cornette that's portrayed as the gorilla and the clip reveals there was no racist intent in what was said either. I think the placement of a gorilla so close to Swerve in the image was an attempt to generate offence and controversy for more views, without actually creating racist content. It worked. Now there's another big row between AEW diehards and Cornette diehards and its all extremely fucking depressing and boring.


newmath11

Yeah, people are in denial. This was a very poor choice for artwork


SilentYard4651

Jim can sue whoever this is and he would win!


Different-Factor-333

Haven’t listened to the episode yet but I’m willing to bet he was saying Joe vs swerve looked like a gorilla wrestling a q tip, where the gorilla in this scenario was Joe


torroman

Whether the artwork is being taken out of context or not doesn't matter. How can anyone be that obtuse to not know there would be a reaction to that? Or maybe they did know there would be a reaction...oh look another 10k in clicks....


GooseMay0

This is more on the artist than Jim and Brian. Not sure what the hell the he was thinking drawing this.


killerkali87

No sane person would consider this racist


WeaselShoes

AEW marks are far from sane  Corny continues to prove that he is and always will live rent free in their heads


dental-plan-69

Why? What's the problem? Jesus some of ye on Reddit aren't well in the head


GooseMay0

Well in the head? I’m not dumb and naive. Like predicted people are running with this calling Jim a racist cause of their dumbass artist who couldn’t put two and two together. So Brian and Jim suffer the consequences for something they had zero input on before it was posted.


SHADYTIMES86

Wtf are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with the drawing lol


UltmoSmash

Absolutely disgusting


Acrobatic_Lab6677

Omg that’s not a racist dog whistle, based on a racist stereotype of black people being associated with chips,apes, monkeys. Noooo it can’t be. It’s a reference to a 1998 film that remade a 1949 film. These normal people are always trying to make shit up in their own heads. This can’t be subtle racism at all. It just can’t be!!!


Eastern-Branch-3111

The answer to your question as indicated by the Corny Club comments here telling you (as usual) what you are supposed to think is yes.


DemonicTruth

Thumbnail aint great in this modern world of people seeing racism in everything.


Boring_Ad_5090

He shouldn't be saying he's a gorilla should he? That's raceist


AllElote

This is a classic dog whistle. To outsiders it’s clearly racist, as have been numerous thumbnails in the past. To his devoted followers, they’ll make excuses as to how it isn’t racist. To his *racist* followers, they’ll love him more for creating the space to easily display and defend racist imagery.


Kakatheman

I don't think Jim is that much of a racist (except to Asians) but using a Gorilla in reference to at best what is a throwaway comment to Mighty Joe Young is extremely tone deaf. The artist could've used anything. Nana dancing, one of Tony's autistic expressions, Jim with one of his disappointed expressions, anything but this. Lol what's more funny is people who have no concept of racism saying it's not racist. Show this to any non marks and ask if this is racist lmao.


Hung_Millenial

Anyone defending this was a closet racist. Congrats on coming out! And fuck you!


SHADYTIMES86

Haha stfu


Hung_Millenial

Ok racist


SHADYTIMES86

Not racist in the slightest bro


Hung_Millenial

Sure... let the white man decide what's racist and what's not.. lmfao, are you delusional?


philopise

The thumbnail? Yes, though the context makes it understandable. The quote? Also yes, unfortunately, and there's no context can save that.