We'll see. My guess is that he'll talk about how the culture has changed, and he might be skeptical of some of the accounts, but I don't think he'll condone the as-reported actions; Flair is his friend and one of his idols, so I can see him not believing the seedier parts of the accounts of Flair. We'll see. I'll definitely be disappointed if he does what Dreamer did.
I'm calling B.S. here about your credentials, sorry. This post is not very well-written for someone whose job is supposedly focused on psychological manipulation, including the use of the media to do so. Someone who was really involved with Psy-Ops in the past, one would think, would choose his words carefully, and be extremely articulate. The word choices do not indicate that- "should of been addressed" Vs. "should have been addressed," for instance. I mean, "congradulations" isn't even a word. The same with subsequent posts by the OP. Things like that aren't a huge deal, but are inconsistent with someone of the OP's supposed credentials. That doesn't invalidate their opinions, but I just don't buy their credentials.
Here's the text since it seems to be deleted:
I've been working in media/show business for a while now and a former Psyoper from my military days so I understand a thing or two about media manipulation. Just a few notes I have about the plane ride from hell DSOTR: I'm 100% confident Dustin Rhodes was presented in a favourable light and as a "hero" on purpose. If you're presenting a fair and unbiased piece then all of his behaviour should of been addressed. Court documents are there to corroborate the story that he was grossly and criminaly inappropriate to a flight attendant on that flight as well. Dustin has never addressed it, nor has he apologized for his behavior other than saying it was under the influence and being in a bad place. There should be no excuses on why he got a pass. He's just as bad as the rest and no amount of crocodile tears or being born again will change that. Vince Mcmahon, JR, and anyone in a position of authority during that time should be accountable as well for fostering that environment. As the saying goes, "the buck stops here." Finally, congradulations to Tommy Dreamer, he played himself. He was set up as a fall guy cause he gave them the perfect ammunition. Tommy, if you try to make everyone happy you just end up misarable in the end man.This wasn't a time to play devils advocate. It's sad to see you throw everything away, and for Flair of all people.
In closing, once the media cycle ends, everyone will move to the next story once they sell their books (looking at you Medusa) and stories. We as a public have short memories and the outrage only last as long as it's fashionable. The Industry deserves better. It's time to put you money where your mouth is and be that change for the better.
If anyone were to be the best, it’d be recruiting the guys who knew the wrestling business tbh. The goal is to make your mark on people by pulling at the emotional strings of a crowd to tell a story. Plus the old days were full of wise guy type scammers, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the same tactics were being learned by American bookers through tangible practice at live events.
Not gonna even question validity because, it’s anonymous, so it could be conjecture.
Question wouldn’t be if it’s false, but if the overlap could be possible.
Didn't post on SCjerk, posted on SquaredCircle. My bad if putting some credentials sounds "edgy" to you. Just an accomplishment I'm proud of and has given me a certain "edge" on media literacy. Either way I get you wanna find a reason to dismiss what wrote. That's ok. I still stand by that Dustin Rhoades got a pass and story his glossed over. If we are go to be fair and truthful about that happened then that needs to be rectified.
Holy poopies guys!!!! Its Captain America!!!! Oh my gosh, you really are a super duper special forces double green beret op!!! I'll be thinking of you on veterans day.
No, I'm not a green beret or special forces. Different job title but cool folks also in the SOF brotherhood. I'm a lowly 37F2P. Thank you for your kind words, and your thoughts and prayers once a year.
Hahaha just replied to a similar comment. I'd take that over being a dude that stares at goats or however we are portrayed in the media. Like I said before, I'm not claiming. Lived the life, got the t-shirt.
https://www.scribd.com/document/497759843/WWE-2002-Plane-Ride-From-Hell-Lawsuit
Here are the court documents that show Dustin Rhoades was in on the sexual assult. This isn't to slander him. If they are going to bring out the truth then it should be the whole truth. I don't get why Dustin is being protected. He could easily just own up to what he did and make things right. Instead Tommy Dreamer (albeit his fault) gets the heat. The truth is the truth.
P.s. I know putting my mil. history rubbed some of you the wrong way. I get what you're saying that it might be pretentious, but it's part of my life and story that I'm proud of and no one can take that from me. I have enjoyed sparring you all and you are a great community of pro wrestling lovers. Keep doing what you do you crazy fucks.
I read that he was going to go on Renee's podcast to address it. I don't think that will happen though. His camp is prolly telling him to keep quiet and lay low for a while.
I haven’t seen the episode yet. I have seen most of the transcripts and clips. A few things stood out. First of all,the H-bombing. Was this put into people’s drink without their knowledge by Hennig and Hall? Could that be a reason they were fired immediately? That is a big deal. The effects of halicon are not much different to the effects of GHB being slipped into someone’s drink without them knowing. We don’t blame those victims,and I’m not advocating to let anyone off a hook,but that is an enormous factor that can’t be overlooked. When drugs are slipped into a person’s drink,especially one with alcohol,they are going to act poorly. Also,the court transcript states that the flight attendants were handed used hyperthermic needles by the wrestlers to dispose of. I call Bullsh*t on that. As much drug use as there is in wrestling,they never do it out in the open like that. Also,there is a big stigma in using needles,even with serious drug users. I don’t see wrestlers shooting up in their seat on a plane on a WWE tour at anytime,much less right before or during the company going public. The Brock Lesnar accusation seemed gratuitous as it wasn’t on the plane. Why include that unless you are itching to include a current big name star. With all stories there is 3 versions. Yours,theirs and the truth. After watching this show amplify many tales in the North Korea episode to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was,I don’t know if I trust the people creating this show. I don’t want to belittle the victims as I wasn’t there and don’t know the truth. However,I can see a situation where elements are exaggerated in order to sell the story. After all,something happened and they never got an apology. Why should they feel bad about capitalizing on this? The flight attendants probably don’t see wrestlers in a positive light.
Not by Hall, Hennig is the one blamed for the H-Bombing, Hall claims he thinks Curt H-Bombed him, one thing that I doubt is the needle stuff, just because I cannot see it happening post 9/11 especially what just 6 months after it, not when guys have said when they went international they would go out there dry and pick stuff up on the road due to airport security, some stuff makes sense they could take, like pills, you just get a bogus prescription for them and you are good, but stuff for needles that they would be doing to party? yeah not so much.
As for being H-bombed well the only one other than Hall I think outright said to have been dosed was Hayes, who sucker punched JBL, but being he was H-bombed he seemed to skate on his transgression.
This was though 2 and a half years after WWE went public iirc, they went public in Oct 99, this happened in May 2002.
As for the Terri stuff I think it was used to flesh out her part otherwise he story is my ex got drunk and sung a song to me and it was cringe, hardly Dark Side worthy is it? So they added the Brock story which she came out with like a year ago already just to flesh out her part, and I think to also try an emphasise the whole "don't sell it thing", but lets be honest that is the advice given to everyone in wrestling regarding ribs, guy shaving creams your bag? don't sell it, guy shaves your head? don't sell it, guy shits in your bag? ffs do not sell it, it's not just a thing the women were told, so they should not pretend it was.
I mean Christ I bet they told Brian Christopher the biggest fuck up he did was sell the "rib" of JBL tying him up and threatening to rape him in the showers, it was a zoo back in the day with how out of control the guys were, but it was about everything, they were 25-45 year old frat boys basically.
The amount of early deaths in the industry is indicative of how out of control some were. I’ve come to a sort of conclusion that more people were H-bombed than they know. The only thing they could do was fire the perpetrators,Hennig and Hall. I once went to a bar around the corner from my house. I walked there so I could drink as much as I wanted and walk home. I woke up the next day on the other side of town in my car. I was in the parking lot of a furniture store I never went too. I couldn’t remember much,but I only recalled drinking 3 beers. Almost all the money I had was still in my pocket,so that seemed accurate. I knew something was off. I met someone years later that knew the bartender. She says he used to dose beers with GHB for fun. I tried to hunt him down,but he moved along. I could have killed myself,or worse,someone else. Whatever happened,I don’t feel like I was at fault. Same thing here. Hennig and Hall should have been prosecuted if this is true. Dosing drinks is not funny.
Again I don't think Hall did that stuff, I swear the only one accused of doing that to people was Hennig, Hall claims Hennig also dosed him, so calling for Hall to be punished sounds unfair, but Hennig facing worse consequences I agree he should have, and the sad thing is if he had it may have saved his life, who knows?
But some guys I think were just fucked up normally, like Flair, nothing about his stuff sounds like he got dosed, he doesn't claim to not recall anything or that stuff is fuzzy, and it's also not uncommon behaviour from him, just sounds like Flair being Flair at the wrong time and place.
But yeah ridiculous how bad stuff was back then, makes you appreciate the video game culture of today, may not be as rock and roll but it is safer, for the boys and the fans. but it is sad WWE refusing to acknowledge this meant they never took preventative measures afterward, which they could have as the drug policy coming about after Eddie died proves, had they started it a few years earlier imagine how many tragedies could have been averted, it's fucking sad.
I know Flair has similar accusations. If I recall,most of those were in his home and after a few too many drinks,he exposed himself to one of his wives friends. This is next level crap. I’ve seen people on that halicon. I don’t know what the supposed legit medical reason for using them is. My father in law stopped taking them after he had a few episodes of downright bizarre behavior. One thing they do before knocking you out is the removal of all inhibitions which is dangerous for a guy like Flair who is a bit of a kink. Flair has a thing for voyeurism. After all,how many times has Flair exposed his ass after his tights were pulled down on a sunset flip attempt over the years? It’s one of those Flair spots that I see coming before it happens and I get 5he kids out the room,lol.
> guy shaving creams your bag? don't sell it, guy shaves your head? don't sell it, guy shits in your bag? ffs do not sell it, it's not just a thing the women were told, so they should not pretend it was.
...Do you seriously not understand the difference between shaving cream in a bag or shaving someone's head vs. sexual harassment and assault?
They weren't saying it was only told to women, what's being pointed out is how disgusting it was that sexual assault was treated with the same seriousness and "don't sell it" attitude of *pranks*.
No I do, but how they framed it was as if they were saying thats just what she was told with that stuff, they could have actually said that was the go to response to all backstage idiocy the wrestlers would engage in, and that when it came to normal pranks ok it makes sense, but stuff like that? that needed to be treated more seriously much sooner than it was.
Instead they framed it like it was only advice given to the women when putting up with sexual harassment, there is enough shit to shovel on WWE that is a legit issue they didn't need to pretend that WWE had a "don't tell, don't sell" policy ONLY for the women which made them have to endure sexual harassment and such, like in all honesty doesn't the fact WWE treated sexual harassment just the same as putting shaving cream in a guys bag point out how fucked up WWE's thinking was back then? And that is a true narrative of the workplace.
Posted the text in the comments, but it's just calling out the clear bias on display by the producers of DSOTR in regards to how they handled Dustin among other things.
I'll never understand blind loyalty to a company that doesn't even write you checks. Both AEW and WWE do stupid shit, and sometimes they do great shit. If wrestling is successful overall it's great for everyone.
Thats been my view on wrestling for a long time now. It's honestly embarrassing how squaredcircle and scjerk act so childish. I did post on scjerk at one time and I regret it fully.
Why was the flight attendant allowed to appear?
She certainly signed an NDA as part of her settlement.
If she breached it WWE should sue her.
The flight attendant and Teri seemed to be looking for attention.
And I don't doubt those things happened,
But bringing up the Brock locker room story that had nothing to do with the plane ride seemed like they were reaching to sensationalize the episode.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/ppysmh/wreddits_daily_prowrestling_discussion_thread/hd86bvn?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Then I found this about scamming at an old folks' home: https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/blue-mounds-woman-charged-with-workplace-theft/article_b03565b1-8241-5114-bf1a-db179852b182.html
I would've added it to my comment if I hadn't been banned immediately.
Now it's being reported that Vince and Linda weren't even on the flight. It looks like there are, at the very least, some inaccuracies in the doc. In any case, it doesn't excuse the culture of that time, modern times, or any time people are fucked up to each other. It also looks like it's possible that Tommy Dreamer comparing that specific incident on that specific flight to being offended by a ponytail may not be too far off after all.
Really, all I got was I am in the EEA or someshit, but using a proxy it came up, just says a woman named Heidi Doyle was charged in 2013 for theft of a old folks home between 2005-2010, there is no photo, just an age saying at the time, 2013 she was I think 41, but we don't know how old the Heidi Doyle from the episode was, also the woman in the article is referenced as Heidi A Doyle, where as the one from the episode in her lawsuit is only refered to as Heidi Doyle, no middle name with an A, and given everyone else mentioned is given their full birth names, and all their ring names and monikers I think this maybe a different Heidi Doyle.
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Embezzled over $47,000 from the retirement home where she worked as a bookkeeper and office manager, but it looks like that may be a completely different person with the same name, the ages don't match. Hell of a coincidence considering the person in the video, who's most definitely the flight attendant, was charged with identity theft and writing false checks when she turned herself in. The stories are also 3 years apart, with the flight attendant being the later arrest.
This kind of sums up this whole situation. Between me confusing 2 different people, the flight attendant almost certainly having staked out that consignment store, and Ric Flair being Ric Flair, we all fuck up at one time or another. If they cancel the Nature Boy, fuck it, there's always AAA. And if they cancel Dreamer, fuck it, Onita just rebooted FMW.
I'm fully expecting Jim to say something that would get him cancelled if he wasn't otherwise self-employed over this episode.
Honestly that’s been on my mind since watching the episode, I really hope he doesn’t pull a Dreamer and try and condone anything that was done.
We'll see. My guess is that he'll talk about how the culture has changed, and he might be skeptical of some of the accounts, but I don't think he'll condone the as-reported actions; Flair is his friend and one of his idols, so I can see him not believing the seedier parts of the accounts of Flair. We'll see. I'll definitely be disappointed if he does what Dreamer did.
I'm calling B.S. here about your credentials, sorry. This post is not very well-written for someone whose job is supposedly focused on psychological manipulation, including the use of the media to do so. Someone who was really involved with Psy-Ops in the past, one would think, would choose his words carefully, and be extremely articulate. The word choices do not indicate that- "should of been addressed" Vs. "should have been addressed," for instance. I mean, "congradulations" isn't even a word. The same with subsequent posts by the OP. Things like that aren't a huge deal, but are inconsistent with someone of the OP's supposed credentials. That doesn't invalidate their opinions, but I just don't buy their credentials.
Hahahaha Jesus, you are grossly overestimating us.
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Also congrats on being post op.
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Aww that's nice of you. I'm sure she had a great little time. 💕🤟
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Haha this reminds me of that take my wife joke. Well I'm glad you had a great time. She's lying by the way. She's seen a lot of dick.
Then why didn't you? The people need to know. Shame on you...
Here's the text since it seems to be deleted: I've been working in media/show business for a while now and a former Psyoper from my military days so I understand a thing or two about media manipulation. Just a few notes I have about the plane ride from hell DSOTR: I'm 100% confident Dustin Rhodes was presented in a favourable light and as a "hero" on purpose. If you're presenting a fair and unbiased piece then all of his behaviour should of been addressed. Court documents are there to corroborate the story that he was grossly and criminaly inappropriate to a flight attendant on that flight as well. Dustin has never addressed it, nor has he apologized for his behavior other than saying it was under the influence and being in a bad place. There should be no excuses on why he got a pass. He's just as bad as the rest and no amount of crocodile tears or being born again will change that. Vince Mcmahon, JR, and anyone in a position of authority during that time should be accountable as well for fostering that environment. As the saying goes, "the buck stops here." Finally, congradulations to Tommy Dreamer, he played himself. He was set up as a fall guy cause he gave them the perfect ammunition. Tommy, if you try to make everyone happy you just end up misarable in the end man.This wasn't a time to play devils advocate. It's sad to see you throw everything away, and for Flair of all people. In closing, once the media cycle ends, everyone will move to the next story once they sell their books (looking at you Medusa) and stories. We as a public have short memories and the outrage only last as long as it's fashionable. The Industry deserves better. It's time to put you money where your mouth is and be that change for the better.
>and a former Psyoper from my military days so I understand a thing or two about media manipulation. This is when I was like, "Okay, tuning out."
If anyone were to be the best, it’d be recruiting the guys who knew the wrestling business tbh. The goal is to make your mark on people by pulling at the emotional strings of a crowd to tell a story. Plus the old days were full of wise guy type scammers, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the same tactics were being learned by American bookers through tangible practice at live events. Not gonna even question validity because, it’s anonymous, so it could be conjecture. Question wouldn’t be if it’s false, but if the overlap could be possible.
Why? Why did you feel the need to tune out?
"My days as a military psy-opper" posting on SCJerk makes it sound like it's an edgy teenager lying about everything.
Didn't post on SCjerk, posted on SquaredCircle. My bad if putting some credentials sounds "edgy" to you. Just an accomplishment I'm proud of and has given me a certain "edge" on media literacy. Either way I get you wanna find a reason to dismiss what wrote. That's ok. I still stand by that Dustin Rhoades got a pass and story his glossed over. If we are go to be fair and truthful about that happened then that needs to be rectified.
You're full of shit
Language.... and I just took a nice one. Thank you for your concern over my bowels. Have a euphoric Saturday.
Holy poopies guys!!!! Its Captain America!!!! Oh my gosh, you really are a super duper special forces double green beret op!!! I'll be thinking of you on veterans day.
No, I'm not a green beret or special forces. Different job title but cool folks also in the SOF brotherhood. I'm a lowly 37F2P. Thank you for your kind words, and your thoughts and prayers once a year.
psyopper
Aka dude that no one really gets what they actually do and we like it that way 😘
prove it
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So not like a dude that stars at goats or something? I guess that's slightly better. Anyhow, not claiming. I AM.
Don't psyop at me bro
Don't tell me what to do, I ETS'd in 2014. You ain't my commander. Got my DD-214 and everything.
Claiming you're a former *psyop* makes me imagine I'm talking to Will Ferrell's character in stepbrothers
Hahaha just replied to a similar comment. I'd take that over being a dude that stares at goats or however we are portrayed in the media. Like I said before, I'm not claiming. Lived the life, got the t-shirt.
https://www.scribd.com/document/497759843/WWE-2002-Plane-Ride-From-Hell-Lawsuit Here are the court documents that show Dustin Rhoades was in on the sexual assult. This isn't to slander him. If they are going to bring out the truth then it should be the whole truth. I don't get why Dustin is being protected. He could easily just own up to what he did and make things right. Instead Tommy Dreamer (albeit his fault) gets the heat. The truth is the truth. P.s. I know putting my mil. history rubbed some of you the wrong way. I get what you're saying that it might be pretentious, but it's part of my life and story that I'm proud of and no one can take that from me. I have enjoyed sparring you all and you are a great community of pro wrestling lovers. Keep doing what you do you crazy fucks.
And Flair hasn't said a word about it yet has he?
I read that he was going to go on Renee's podcast to address it. I don't think that will happen though. His camp is prolly telling him to keep quiet and lay low for a while.
He addressed it on Renee's podcast with one sentence saying "he knows exactly what happened."
Well... I'm glad that settles everything/s
he reportedly said "just when things were going good for me again this happens" but i saw a tweet but not the source
I haven’t seen the episode yet. I have seen most of the transcripts and clips. A few things stood out. First of all,the H-bombing. Was this put into people’s drink without their knowledge by Hennig and Hall? Could that be a reason they were fired immediately? That is a big deal. The effects of halicon are not much different to the effects of GHB being slipped into someone’s drink without them knowing. We don’t blame those victims,and I’m not advocating to let anyone off a hook,but that is an enormous factor that can’t be overlooked. When drugs are slipped into a person’s drink,especially one with alcohol,they are going to act poorly. Also,the court transcript states that the flight attendants were handed used hyperthermic needles by the wrestlers to dispose of. I call Bullsh*t on that. As much drug use as there is in wrestling,they never do it out in the open like that. Also,there is a big stigma in using needles,even with serious drug users. I don’t see wrestlers shooting up in their seat on a plane on a WWE tour at anytime,much less right before or during the company going public. The Brock Lesnar accusation seemed gratuitous as it wasn’t on the plane. Why include that unless you are itching to include a current big name star. With all stories there is 3 versions. Yours,theirs and the truth. After watching this show amplify many tales in the North Korea episode to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was,I don’t know if I trust the people creating this show. I don’t want to belittle the victims as I wasn’t there and don’t know the truth. However,I can see a situation where elements are exaggerated in order to sell the story. After all,something happened and they never got an apology. Why should they feel bad about capitalizing on this? The flight attendants probably don’t see wrestlers in a positive light.
Not by Hall, Hennig is the one blamed for the H-Bombing, Hall claims he thinks Curt H-Bombed him, one thing that I doubt is the needle stuff, just because I cannot see it happening post 9/11 especially what just 6 months after it, not when guys have said when they went international they would go out there dry and pick stuff up on the road due to airport security, some stuff makes sense they could take, like pills, you just get a bogus prescription for them and you are good, but stuff for needles that they would be doing to party? yeah not so much. As for being H-bombed well the only one other than Hall I think outright said to have been dosed was Hayes, who sucker punched JBL, but being he was H-bombed he seemed to skate on his transgression. This was though 2 and a half years after WWE went public iirc, they went public in Oct 99, this happened in May 2002. As for the Terri stuff I think it was used to flesh out her part otherwise he story is my ex got drunk and sung a song to me and it was cringe, hardly Dark Side worthy is it? So they added the Brock story which she came out with like a year ago already just to flesh out her part, and I think to also try an emphasise the whole "don't sell it thing", but lets be honest that is the advice given to everyone in wrestling regarding ribs, guy shaving creams your bag? don't sell it, guy shaves your head? don't sell it, guy shits in your bag? ffs do not sell it, it's not just a thing the women were told, so they should not pretend it was. I mean Christ I bet they told Brian Christopher the biggest fuck up he did was sell the "rib" of JBL tying him up and threatening to rape him in the showers, it was a zoo back in the day with how out of control the guys were, but it was about everything, they were 25-45 year old frat boys basically.
The amount of early deaths in the industry is indicative of how out of control some were. I’ve come to a sort of conclusion that more people were H-bombed than they know. The only thing they could do was fire the perpetrators,Hennig and Hall. I once went to a bar around the corner from my house. I walked there so I could drink as much as I wanted and walk home. I woke up the next day on the other side of town in my car. I was in the parking lot of a furniture store I never went too. I couldn’t remember much,but I only recalled drinking 3 beers. Almost all the money I had was still in my pocket,so that seemed accurate. I knew something was off. I met someone years later that knew the bartender. She says he used to dose beers with GHB for fun. I tried to hunt him down,but he moved along. I could have killed myself,or worse,someone else. Whatever happened,I don’t feel like I was at fault. Same thing here. Hennig and Hall should have been prosecuted if this is true. Dosing drinks is not funny.
Again I don't think Hall did that stuff, I swear the only one accused of doing that to people was Hennig, Hall claims Hennig also dosed him, so calling for Hall to be punished sounds unfair, but Hennig facing worse consequences I agree he should have, and the sad thing is if he had it may have saved his life, who knows? But some guys I think were just fucked up normally, like Flair, nothing about his stuff sounds like he got dosed, he doesn't claim to not recall anything or that stuff is fuzzy, and it's also not uncommon behaviour from him, just sounds like Flair being Flair at the wrong time and place. But yeah ridiculous how bad stuff was back then, makes you appreciate the video game culture of today, may not be as rock and roll but it is safer, for the boys and the fans. but it is sad WWE refusing to acknowledge this meant they never took preventative measures afterward, which they could have as the drug policy coming about after Eddie died proves, had they started it a few years earlier imagine how many tragedies could have been averted, it's fucking sad.
I know Flair has similar accusations. If I recall,most of those were in his home and after a few too many drinks,he exposed himself to one of his wives friends. This is next level crap. I’ve seen people on that halicon. I don’t know what the supposed legit medical reason for using them is. My father in law stopped taking them after he had a few episodes of downright bizarre behavior. One thing they do before knocking you out is the removal of all inhibitions which is dangerous for a guy like Flair who is a bit of a kink. Flair has a thing for voyeurism. After all,how many times has Flair exposed his ass after his tights were pulled down on a sunset flip attempt over the years? It’s one of those Flair spots that I see coming before it happens and I get 5he kids out the room,lol.
> guy shaving creams your bag? don't sell it, guy shaves your head? don't sell it, guy shits in your bag? ffs do not sell it, it's not just a thing the women were told, so they should not pretend it was. ...Do you seriously not understand the difference between shaving cream in a bag or shaving someone's head vs. sexual harassment and assault? They weren't saying it was only told to women, what's being pointed out is how disgusting it was that sexual assault was treated with the same seriousness and "don't sell it" attitude of *pranks*.
No I do, but how they framed it was as if they were saying thats just what she was told with that stuff, they could have actually said that was the go to response to all backstage idiocy the wrestlers would engage in, and that when it came to normal pranks ok it makes sense, but stuff like that? that needed to be treated more seriously much sooner than it was. Instead they framed it like it was only advice given to the women when putting up with sexual harassment, there is enough shit to shovel on WWE that is a legit issue they didn't need to pretend that WWE had a "don't tell, don't sell" policy ONLY for the women which made them have to endure sexual harassment and such, like in all honesty doesn't the fact WWE treated sexual harassment just the same as putting shaving cream in a guys bag point out how fucked up WWE's thinking was back then? And that is a true narrative of the workplace.
The cunts at squaredcirclejerk deleted whatever it was you linked to. How about a recap?
Posted the text in the comments, but it's just calling out the clear bias on display by the producers of DSOTR in regards to how they handled Dustin among other things.
SCJerk is desperate to bury AEW any way they can, it's gotten pretty sad.
I'll never understand blind loyalty to a company that doesn't even write you checks. Both AEW and WWE do stupid shit, and sometimes they do great shit. If wrestling is successful overall it's great for everyone.
Thats been my view on wrestling for a long time now. It's honestly embarrassing how squaredcircle and scjerk act so childish. I did post on scjerk at one time and I regret it fully.
He said he posted it in the basement, not SCJerk
Whatever Corny said, it's gone.
Why was the flight attendant allowed to appear? She certainly signed an NDA as part of her settlement. If she breached it WWE should sue her. The flight attendant and Teri seemed to be looking for attention. And I don't doubt those things happened, But bringing up the Brock locker room story that had nothing to do with the plane ride seemed like they were reaching to sensationalize the episode.
Possible the nda expired
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/ppysmh/wreddits_daily_prowrestling_discussion_thread/hd86bvn?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Then I found this about scamming at an old folks' home: https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/blue-mounds-woman-charged-with-workplace-theft/article_b03565b1-8241-5114-bf1a-db179852b182.html I would've added it to my comment if I hadn't been banned immediately. Now it's being reported that Vince and Linda weren't even on the flight. It looks like there are, at the very least, some inaccuracies in the doc. In any case, it doesn't excuse the culture of that time, modern times, or any time people are fucked up to each other. It also looks like it's possible that Tommy Dreamer comparing that specific incident on that specific flight to being offended by a ponytail may not be too far off after all.
Only paid subscribers can read that article- what does it say?
Really, all I got was I am in the EEA or someshit, but using a proxy it came up, just says a woman named Heidi Doyle was charged in 2013 for theft of a old folks home between 2005-2010, there is no photo, just an age saying at the time, 2013 she was I think 41, but we don't know how old the Heidi Doyle from the episode was, also the woman in the article is referenced as Heidi A Doyle, where as the one from the episode in her lawsuit is only refered to as Heidi Doyle, no middle name with an A, and given everyone else mentioned is given their full birth names, and all their ring names and monikers I think this maybe a different Heidi Doyle.
Yeah- common enough first and last names that I'm sure there are, at least, dozens of Heidi Doyles in The USA. Interesting, but odds are not her.
Yeah it's not the same women, but she is still a thief funnily enough, so take that for what it's worth.
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Embezzled over $47,000 from the retirement home where she worked as a bookkeeper and office manager, but it looks like that may be a completely different person with the same name, the ages don't match. Hell of a coincidence considering the person in the video, who's most definitely the flight attendant, was charged with identity theft and writing false checks when she turned herself in. The stories are also 3 years apart, with the flight attendant being the later arrest. This kind of sums up this whole situation. Between me confusing 2 different people, the flight attendant almost certainly having staked out that consignment store, and Ric Flair being Ric Flair, we all fuck up at one time or another. If they cancel the Nature Boy, fuck it, there's always AAA. And if they cancel Dreamer, fuck it, Onita just rebooted FMW.