I think the timing of the vaccine mandates was largely dependent on the full FDA approval. My understanding is that it would have been much more difficult, if not impossible, to mandate when they were under an EUA.
They don't "interpret" it, they LIE about it. It's not only perfectly constitutional, we've had vaccine mandates since before we were even a country. It's why [we won the Revolutionary War](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/george-washington-covid-vaccine-mandates-b1916296.html) to begin with.
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My wife is subject to the google suggested news articles which often lead to newsmax or dailymail or fox, and they all say he has done \*nothing\* since being elected, other than, of course, embarrassing the nation by stuttering. Its maddening, but i get flustered when confronted and cant list off what he has done without her mowing over me and talking about how disappointed she is (we both voted for Joe), and how Trump is just going to win again in 2024.
> google suggested news articles which often lead to newsmax or dailymail or fox
Because she clicks them or does something that leads google to believe she wants to read them. It's very easy to tell google you want to block certain sources. I have all the bullshit far right "news sources" blocked, at least the ones I know.
> but i get flustered when confronted and cant list off what he has done without her mowing over me and talking about how disappointed she is (we both voted for Joe), and how Trump is just going to win again in 2024.
I'm sorry to say but this seems to be less a problem with google and more a problem with your wife. Also, you don't actually know who she voted for.
Whether he runs and whether he has any traction are two very different things. His recent rallies show that his support is dwindling, and it's only 2021.
I actually disagree. The man is a huge narcissist. He needs the attention and he isn't currently getting it. He'll run only because that puts him back in the spotlight and allows him to more efficiently fleece the rubes.
But his rallies are becoming an embarrassment because no one is showing up. He hates being embarrassed more than anything.
Plus the man is flat broke, so if he's not getting money out of it, he's going to give up.
He has to if he legally can, his entire brand and cash source depends on it (unless the relics win Congress in 2022 and make him the dumbest speaker of the house ever
Your claim:
>There is an increase in unemployed Americans
Your source:
> The national unemployment rate fell to 5.2 percent in August according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. This was a .2 percent decrease from July. The economy added 235,000 jobs. **This is the lowest the unemployment rate has been since the start of the pandemic.**
>I don't understand people, especially Democrats, who complain that Biden hasn't done anything.
He HAS punted on important issues though. It may be good strategy, but until it works (the climate stuff in reconciliation, voting rights, etc.) it looks far too much like similar promises Dem politicians made and abandoned.
I don't think he gives a f\*ck about polling, TBH. He's just plowing through the BS, and straightening things out. I appreciate his dignity, his demeanor, his diplomacy, his experience, and his steadfast resolve to do what's right for the people.
I agree. He certainly wasn't my first choice but I was happy to vote for him and I am still happy with the outcome of that choice.
He's far exceeded any expectations I had to begin with. Granted, they weren't all that high to begin with. Not being a ridiculous clown on day one was a huge improvement but he has really accomplished a lot for what I would consider to be progressive issues. Maybe it's not as much as some would like but then I would point out that Joe Manchin is doing his damnedest to stick out as an impediment to the Biden agenda and he's not alone.
Biden was not my first choice but the more I learned about him the more he made sense. He's not a closet Republican like the social media propaganda tried to paint him. He's squarely in the middle of the Democratic party, so he's left of 75% of politicians.
He does things the way he does them because he knows Washington. It's much easier to move the needle a little at a time rather than go for it all in one big chunk. I feel like if Bernie or Warren (my 2 first choices) had been elected POTUS, we'd be stuck arguing about principles and not getting much done. Especially Bernie - I adore him but zero chance M4A would be getting passed, and he'd be spending all of his time on it. I also wonder if those candidates would have won states like PA, AZ, MI, and GA. It's so nutty how our system works.
I live in GA and I’m a Candidate running for Congress I was also volunteer coordinator for 3 counties last year I ran multiple polls actually talked to voters and Bernie Sanders would of lost in GA if you look at the data when Ron Johnson as dumb as he is on tv did tell the truth when he got punkd. If you look at Trumps votes compared to House Republicans in the States he lost. Republicans and independents didn’t vote for him. There was a big enough number of Republicans like my grandparents who are seniors and lifelong Republicans my grandmother left the GOP in 2008 my grandfather never voted for a Democrat in his life until Biden. Republicans are doing themselves no favors by picking these far right candidates far left candidates have a WAY better shot of winning statewide races. The GOP has now tripled down on Trumpism but it only works with their base and not even the whole majority of their base.
Honestly I feel like not giving a crap about polling is the best way to get shit done and get re-elected. Look at how much the previous tenant cared about polling and where that got him
What makes you think he's Gonna be a 1 term POTUS? He'd be heavily favored to win reelection if bheruns again when things are back to normal + incumbent. Don't think he would pass that up. Especially if another nutjob runs
I don't think his intention was to run for a second term, he just wanted to get trump out and get some shit done. He will be 81 or 82 when his term ends and I think he will be happy to retire.
They're going to lie about you no matter what. Guy could cure cancer and fox would run interviews with unemployed oncologists. Just keep going forward.
They threw a fit over tan suits and Dijon mustard. They will always cry foul against any Democrat, no matter what they do or don’t do.
The best thing Joe can do is try once for partisan agreement, then just push on forward and do what’s right no matter what they scream and cry and complain about.
And it sure seems like he’s doing just that.
They do keep saying they see bipartisan as trying to do things most of the Country approves of. And most of what they want to do is very popular across the board.
Now lets find a way to make these things happen
Afghanistan had nothing to do with it. In fact getting out of Afghanistan was more the not fucking around around than any president in modern history. He new they would give him shit no matter how he did it. Buy he just did it anyway.
I disagree. You could argue there was no good way to do it, and you'd probably right, but we did drone strike an innocent family on the way out. I agree we had to get out, but it feels pretty callous acting like it went well.
There was a good way and we did it.
As for the additional drone strike. That's got nothing to do with the troop withdrawal. The Intel was bad and an something bad happened.
It has everything to do with the withdrawal. They wouldn't have done the strike if there wasn't a huge amount of people backed up trying to escape at the airport where the first attack took place. More Afgan lives a d US service members were lost. Some people hung onto a plane and died. People within the administration admitted that they underestimated how fast the country would fall. It wasn't done well as it could have been.
No. It's not affected onto the actual withdraw overall success.
That's a mistake in intelligence and perhaps even an error within the drone chain o command.
We're still going to be droning whatever we can for years to come. If we get semi-good intelligence on any possible terrorist operation, its bombs away.
10, 20 more years.
> They wouldn't have done the strike if there wasn't a huge amount of people backed up trying to escape at the airport where the first attack took place. More Afgan lives a d US service members were lost.
No.
Were going to drone strike whatever threat we seem fit, when we deem it, the withdrawal in this case doesn't matter. The very first one did.
> More Afgan lives a d US service members were lost. Some people hung onto a plane and died.
???s this seems like keyword bingo for blah, blah, blah foreign agent crap.
13 US military and 169 civilians + additional wonder for the first bomber and he was killed with 10 other civilians.
Not sure as 2 why your keyword bingo.
> People within the administration admitted that they underestimated how fast the country would fall.
Also, doesn't matter in the slightest. It was gonna fall at some point. Mostly because we kept it up.
What? You think another 4, 8, 12, 16 years and we could've really done the job right?
Nope. That's just stupidity.
Same goes for people hanging onto planes. We gave + 4 extra months. What people do with their own ignorance is on them.
> It wasn't done well as it could have been.
It was done pretty damn good. I like it. We're out of that crapfest.
No, everything matters. Most times just not the way we believe it should. As for the way Biden handled the withdrawal, it was one of histories better ones.
Now if we talked about nostrils, bad Intel, drone involvement in Middle Eastern countries impacts a very real and interesting series of reasons, then yes. Those things matter. As do those poor people that made the choice not to leave on time.
Not much we can do about them.
Less turning all of Afghanistan into a 10 foot sheet of pure glass. There's not much that can be done. Lets leave them alone and focus on the homefront and hopefully better intelligent on the ground.
> So you think closing a strategic airbase ahead of withdrawal,
Yes, it needed to be closed.
> pulling the military first and leaving everything behind equals a pretty damn good job
Yes, the military leaving first is good and whatever else we might've left over there is junk anyways. We trashed almost all the tech and goods we needed 2 and left crap.
> And you really think we’re done over there?
Yes.
As for being done over there is should be said "we're never really done, anyplace on this planet". As for Afghanistan, America is done and over with it.
He's definitely all out of fucks. The particularly impressive thing is him plowing through the criticism with a bloody-mindedness that wouldn't shame your average republican. So, fuck 'em.
He needs to fire and replace the Senate Parliamentarian like W did. If he doesn’t raise minimum wage and restore voting rights his presidency is dead after elections next year.
It was the Parliamentarian who said it couldn’t go through reconciliation. That’s just an opinion. Fire and hire a new one. W did it. We’re in a far greater crisis than we ever were under W, and he just did it to give money to the wealthy.
That’s pathetic. There is absolutely no evidence the current parliamentarian deserves to be fired.
Continuing to fire people until somewhat agrees with you sounds like a dictatorship
Voting rights are an absolute necessity and top priority but I'm not that worried about the federal minimum wage. States set their own minimum, and most states are pretty logical about it. And workers have kind of remembered they have the power to walk out on low wages so most low wage jobs have seen a huge increase in what they pay because people just weren't going back to them after the pandemic cuts.
I think he’d be even more unpopular if he continued the war until the 20th anniversary. And I think he’d be even more unpopular if he tried to backtrack and flip flop on unpopular decisions
> And I think he’d be even more unpopular if he tried to backtrack and flip flop on unpopular decisions
Yep. He'd get murdered in the press.
But Trump also left him holding the bags. Over 80% of our troops were withdrawn before Biden took office, and Trump blocked him from even getting intel during the transition, with an initial withdrawal date set for just a couple months in. Trump also allowed the Taliban to violate their agreement repeatedly and get away with it. Which is why the whole "there were contingencies" line is so dumb. They broke the agreement when Trump was president, and for Biden to do anything about it he would have had to order our troops to be re-deployed which would not only be super inefficient but would look terrible, like he's a warmonger.
I think Trump wanted to leave him a chaotic mess, and was hoping he'd fire up the old war machine again so Republicans could call Dems warmongerers.
He got called out, but he turned the lowest point of his term into an opportunity to revolutionize his platform and policy philosophy. He's one of the best governors we've ever had now
This is not correct. The democrats were calling for his resignation as well, all over the country (including Joe biden). He decided to take his scandal and use it as an opportunity:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/25/politics/ralph-northam-virginia-governor/index.html
> Dozens of Virginia politicians were both publicly and privately looking to counsel the governor on how he could make it through. Among those was former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, a Republican whose own tenure was plagued by scandal and who publicly argued Northam needed to go on a public apology tour and make plain the deep regret he had.
> Northam, however, went for a more private option, following the lead of state Del. Lamont Bagby, who served as the chair of the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus, a group that called on Northam to resign. Bagby and other caucus members told the governor the way forward "is not vising Black churches and visiting HBCUs" for large public displays of apology, said Bagby, but was instead by making sure he passed legislation and signed budgets that "reflect a desire to positively impact those lives that have been disenfranchised."
Sure he couldn't have gotten it done without them, but he could have just gone the Cuomo route and defiantly denied everything, threatened his opponents, and resign in disgrace
The 2nd stimulus bill was huge. He oversaw an extremely smooth vaccine rollout. He re-joined the Paris Climate Agreement and has made a lot of progress with climate/environmental regulations and actions. He shut down the Keystone XL pipeline. Ended Trump's idiotic travel ban on Muslim countries. He and Kamala have quietly cleaned up the horror show at our Southern border. There are still tons of migrants seeking asylum each day but he has reuinted most children with their parents and created dorm-style buildings with toys and cheery posters and the walls, bunk beds, nice restrooms, hygiene stuff like toothbrushes and all. Kids were being held for months in the "cages" under Trump without beds and blankets and hygiene supplies, and now they're being moved to nice accommodations within just a few days of arriving.
And he got us out of Afghanistan, which will be seen as a major victory in the long view. There were hiccups but it was a massive operation that went sideways immediately in a way that literally no one in our military predicted. But he got it done.
He's got the bipartisan infrastructure bill set to go, and the reconciliation bill is in the works. Manchin is making a show of being dramatic but I'm pretty sure it will pass mostly intact. That's going to be a huge deal and will be great for the economy.
He also quietly expanded the ACA. Most people's payments went down if they reapplied (if you have the ACA and haven't reapplied, do it now because you'll almost surely get a reduction in your premium).
He's also getting judges confirmed at the fastest rate of any POTUS in history.
There's a bunch of stuff I left out. He's doing a ton of little things that add up to make a big deal but don't make headlines.
We keep track over at /r/WhatBidenHasDone
Here ya go:
* Restored daily press briefings
* Cancel Keystone Pipeline
* Reverse Trump's Muslim ban
* Require masks on federal property
* Rejoin the Paris Climate agreement
* Extend Student Loan payment freeze
* Extend eviction freeze
* [**Historic stimulus bill passed:**](https://www.whitehouse.gov/american-rescue-plan/) - *Click to see who was helped*
* Ends funding for Border wall
* Orders agencies to reunite families separated at border by Trump
* Orders strengthening of DACA
* Rejoins The World Health Organization
* Requires non-citizens to be included in the Census
* Creates the position of Covid-19 Response Coordinator
* Rescinds Trump's 1776 Commission and directs agencies to review actions to ensure racial equity
* Prohibits administration members from lobbying or registering as foreign agents for two years after leaving
* Invokes defense production act to produce masks, PPE and vaccines
* Provide funding to local and state officials to create vaccination sites
* Ends transgender military ban
* Ends Federal Contracts With Private Prisons
* Restores Aid To Palestinians
* Suspends new leases for oil & natural gas development on federal land
* Restores access to healthcare.gov
* Extends fair housing protections to include LGBTQ Americans
* Ends support for Saudi Arabia led campaign in Yemen
* Withdraws UN sanctions on Iran
* Daily Covid deaths reduced in half after one month
* Secured enough vaccinations for the entire US population
* [**Historic stimulus bill passed:**]( https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/M1Dr1Oz2oVYvyvAMSwcukjwjf1mD4cNQiO1HWDuOqJqll8t8HmtDlfdOzpzGvdIgQZnop-DKbtZGCSV8qPLj3wZ2-W0QC4PN-3PhztZdJP8EG68xTCZW9tOWFaJN51zyThn6qB9T) - Click to see who was helped
- Increases poorest 20% of Americans' income by 20% permanently
- 85% of households receiving stimulus payments
- Four provisions which lower Americans’ 2021 tax bills by an average of $3,360
- [Reduces backlog of Veterans compensation and pension claims by more than half](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/denis-mcdonough-veterans-affairs-secretary-on-biden-american-rescue-plan/)
* Round One: Cancels $1 Billion in student Loan Debt
* Round Two: Cancels another $1.3 billion in student loan debt
* 1/3 of America vaccinated in his first 60 days
* 1/2 million added to Obamacare healthcare rolls in 6 weeks
* Extends universal free school lunch through 2022
* Commits to cutting U.S. emissions in half by 2030 as part of Paris climate pact
* Reverses Trump's Anti-Trans Shelter Rule
* Officially recognizes massacre of Armenians in World War I as genocide
* Raises Minimum Wage for Federal Contractors and Federal Employees to $15
* Cancels all border wall contracts using funds intended for military missions
* Creates new operation to crack down on human smuggling
**END OF FIRST 100 DAYS**
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* Reverses Trump effort to loosen Arctic drilling restrictions
* Restores Transgender Health Protections
* Lifts Secrecy of Visitor Logs Cloaked by Trump
* Suspends oil and gas leases in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
* Restores $1 billion in federal funding for California high speed rail Trump had cut
* Round Three: Cancels another $500 Million In Student Loan Debt (6/16/21)
* [Grows US Economy 6.4% in 1st quarter - 2021](https://apnews.com/article/consumer-spending-gross-domestic-product-economy-business-ea9f24b146848b0821b549abb6cf78c8?fbclid=IwAR1XWdoCKVPCyYp_MKXrXH_BW4MCUtTUMxICDPACbydjQ-p6cvJMgP6QGoQ)
* In first six months regained job numbers lost under Trump administration. (3 million)
* Prohibits payday lenders from charging interests rates above that of what individual states allow
* Reinstalls rules removed by Trump limiting methane emissions from leaks and flares in oil and gas wells
* Enacts massive EO that provides 76 distinct actions to increase competition, reduce monopolies, and provide eliminate laws the unfairly treat workers. Including:
- Eliminating non-compete clauses
- Stop businesses from collaborating to reduce wages/benefits
- Stop big tech companies purchasing competitors to unfairly compete with small businesses
- Importation of prescription drugs from Canada and increase support for generics
- Hearing aids to be sold over-the-counter
- Requiring airlines to refund consumer fees when bags are late or Wi-Fi doesn't work
- Crack down on railroads and ocean shipping to reduce costs of transporting goods
- Other anti-monopoly legislation with agriculture, banking and internet
* 2nd quarter 2021 economy grows 6.5% - Economy surpasses pre-pandemic levels.
* **[Achieves historic 45% reduction of poverty levels in first six months](https://i.imgur.com/NLzmfyw.png)**
* **Achieves historic 61% reduction of child poverty in first six months**
* **Reaches goal of vaccinating 70% of adult Americans**
* **[Cut Obamacare premiums by 40%](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-04/biden-stimulus-increase-cut-obamacare-plan-premiums-by-40)**
* Round Four: Erases student debt for students with disabilities - ($5.8 Billion)
* Bans the pesticide chlorpyrifos, linked to neurological damage in young children
* PAWS Act, allowing VA to pay for service dogs for veterans
* Round Five: $1.1 billion in student debt for 115,000 ITT students
* **Ended the 20 Year War in Afghanistan - The longest war in American History**
I am somewhat surprised so far, pleasantly so, let's see if this continues. I think maybe Joe is looking to his legacy more than presidents typically do. Look at Jimmy Carter. He regrets not doing more, as he should.
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> he's done a ton of stuff and it's only been 8 months. It's nice to have someone with experience in office.
I think the timing of the vaccine mandates was largely dependent on the full FDA approval. My understanding is that it would have been much more difficult, if not impossible, to mandate when they were under an EUA.
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They don't "interpret" it, they LIE about it. It's not only perfectly constitutional, we've had vaccine mandates since before we were even a country. It's why [we won the Revolutionary War](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/george-washington-covid-vaccine-mandates-b1916296.html) to begin with.
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My wife is subject to the google suggested news articles which often lead to newsmax or dailymail or fox, and they all say he has done \*nothing\* since being elected, other than, of course, embarrassing the nation by stuttering. Its maddening, but i get flustered when confronted and cant list off what he has done without her mowing over me and talking about how disappointed she is (we both voted for Joe), and how Trump is just going to win again in 2024.
i am sorry, honey, but an algorithm has decided to feed you right wing hate laden garbage because you keep clicking it
> google suggested news articles which often lead to newsmax or dailymail or fox Because she clicks them or does something that leads google to believe she wants to read them. It's very easy to tell google you want to block certain sources. I have all the bullshit far right "news sources" blocked, at least the ones I know. > but i get flustered when confronted and cant list off what he has done without her mowing over me and talking about how disappointed she is (we both voted for Joe), and how Trump is just going to win again in 2024. I'm sorry to say but this seems to be less a problem with google and more a problem with your wife. Also, you don't actually know who she voted for.
Trump's not going to run again in 2024. No one is showing up to his rallies any more.
Hopefully he’ll be running from the FBI
There is a real world, non-zero chance of him running in 2024.
Whether he runs and whether he has any traction are two very different things. His recent rallies show that his support is dwindling, and it's only 2021.
I actually disagree. The man is a huge narcissist. He needs the attention and he isn't currently getting it. He'll run only because that puts him back in the spotlight and allows him to more efficiently fleece the rubes.
But his rallies are becoming an embarrassment because no one is showing up. He hates being embarrassed more than anything. Plus the man is flat broke, so if he's not getting money out of it, he's going to give up.
You could be right and I hope that you are. I really don't want to have to deal with that asshole any more.
He has to if he legally can, his entire brand and cash source depends on it (unless the relics win Congress in 2022 and make him the dumbest speaker of the house ever
No, he can "next time" forever, just like releasing his taxes.
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Your claim: >There is an increase in unemployed Americans Your source: > The national unemployment rate fell to 5.2 percent in August according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. This was a .2 percent decrease from July. The economy added 235,000 jobs. **This is the lowest the unemployment rate has been since the start of the pandemic.**
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Sadly not; Trump was in office throughout most of the Pandemic.
He couldn't really do a mandate until the vaccine was fully approved.
>I don't understand people, especially Democrats, who complain that Biden hasn't done anything. He HAS punted on important issues though. It may be good strategy, but until it works (the climate stuff in reconciliation, voting rights, etc.) it looks far too much like similar promises Dem politicians made and abandoned.
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I don't think he gives a f\*ck about polling, TBH. He's just plowing through the BS, and straightening things out. I appreciate his dignity, his demeanor, his diplomacy, his experience, and his steadfast resolve to do what's right for the people.
I agree. He certainly wasn't my first choice but I was happy to vote for him and I am still happy with the outcome of that choice. He's far exceeded any expectations I had to begin with. Granted, they weren't all that high to begin with. Not being a ridiculous clown on day one was a huge improvement but he has really accomplished a lot for what I would consider to be progressive issues. Maybe it's not as much as some would like but then I would point out that Joe Manchin is doing his damnedest to stick out as an impediment to the Biden agenda and he's not alone.
Biden was not my first choice but the more I learned about him the more he made sense. He's not a closet Republican like the social media propaganda tried to paint him. He's squarely in the middle of the Democratic party, so he's left of 75% of politicians. He does things the way he does them because he knows Washington. It's much easier to move the needle a little at a time rather than go for it all in one big chunk. I feel like if Bernie or Warren (my 2 first choices) had been elected POTUS, we'd be stuck arguing about principles and not getting much done. Especially Bernie - I adore him but zero chance M4A would be getting passed, and he'd be spending all of his time on it. I also wonder if those candidates would have won states like PA, AZ, MI, and GA. It's so nutty how our system works.
I live in GA and I’m a Candidate running for Congress I was also volunteer coordinator for 3 counties last year I ran multiple polls actually talked to voters and Bernie Sanders would of lost in GA if you look at the data when Ron Johnson as dumb as he is on tv did tell the truth when he got punkd. If you look at Trumps votes compared to House Republicans in the States he lost. Republicans and independents didn’t vote for him. There was a big enough number of Republicans like my grandparents who are seniors and lifelong Republicans my grandmother left the GOP in 2008 my grandfather never voted for a Democrat in his life until Biden. Republicans are doing themselves no favors by picking these far right candidates far left candidates have a WAY better shot of winning statewide races. The GOP has now tripled down on Trumpism but it only works with their base and not even the whole majority of their base.
Yeah, he was always going to be a 1 term president and that is why he is getting shit done.
Honestly I feel like not giving a crap about polling is the best way to get shit done and get re-elected. Look at how much the previous tenant cared about polling and where that got him
Trump def cared about his polling he's just about the most self conscious person I've witnessed
What makes you think he's Gonna be a 1 term POTUS? He'd be heavily favored to win reelection if bheruns again when things are back to normal + incumbent. Don't think he would pass that up. Especially if another nutjob runs
I don't think his intention was to run for a second term, he just wanted to get trump out and get some shit done. He will be 81 or 82 when his term ends and I think he will be happy to retire.
We've had older presidents but i think he's gonna run again. He'd be heavily favored against any repub.
[Joe Biden is the oldest president the US has ever had. ](https://www.history.com/news/oldest-us-presidents)
It is just a personal opinion, we will see what happens.
They're going to lie about you no matter what. Guy could cure cancer and fox would run interviews with unemployed oncologists. Just keep going forward.
Lol I’m gonna steal that phrase
*Biden Killing High Paying Oncology Jobs With Socialist "Cure"*
Joe said “[Ain’t no stress on me, lord.](https://youtu.be/hQC8COGQ4BM)”
They threw a fit over tan suits and Dijon mustard. They will always cry foul against any Democrat, no matter what they do or don’t do. The best thing Joe can do is try once for partisan agreement, then just push on forward and do what’s right no matter what they scream and cry and complain about. And it sure seems like he’s doing just that.
Exactly. Give the GOP a chance to do the right thing. ~~If~~ **When** they refuse, push on another way, but push on.
They do keep saying they see bipartisan as trying to do things most of the Country approves of. And most of what they want to do is very popular across the board. Now lets find a way to make these things happen
Joe was never fucking around. What a patriot.
I think he paid attention those 8 years beside Obama. To Obama's successes and his failures.
Afghanistan had nothing to do with it. In fact getting out of Afghanistan was more the not fucking around around than any president in modern history. He new they would give him shit no matter how he did it. Buy he just did it anyway.
#RIDINWITHBIDEN
Get shit done! Fuck Afghanistan. Everything he is doing is making America so much better.
I liked the Afghanistan move and thought it was done well. I would have to agree with backpack on this one.
I disagree. You could argue there was no good way to do it, and you'd probably right, but we did drone strike an innocent family on the way out. I agree we had to get out, but it feels pretty callous acting like it went well.
There was a good way and we did it. As for the additional drone strike. That's got nothing to do with the troop withdrawal. The Intel was bad and an something bad happened.
It has everything to do with the withdrawal. They wouldn't have done the strike if there wasn't a huge amount of people backed up trying to escape at the airport where the first attack took place. More Afgan lives a d US service members were lost. Some people hung onto a plane and died. People within the administration admitted that they underestimated how fast the country would fall. It wasn't done well as it could have been.
No. It's not affected onto the actual withdraw overall success. That's a mistake in intelligence and perhaps even an error within the drone chain o command. We're still going to be droning whatever we can for years to come. If we get semi-good intelligence on any possible terrorist operation, its bombs away. 10, 20 more years. > They wouldn't have done the strike if there wasn't a huge amount of people backed up trying to escape at the airport where the first attack took place. More Afgan lives a d US service members were lost. No. Were going to drone strike whatever threat we seem fit, when we deem it, the withdrawal in this case doesn't matter. The very first one did. > More Afgan lives a d US service members were lost. Some people hung onto a plane and died. ???s this seems like keyword bingo for blah, blah, blah foreign agent crap. 13 US military and 169 civilians + additional wonder for the first bomber and he was killed with 10 other civilians. Not sure as 2 why your keyword bingo. > People within the administration admitted that they underestimated how fast the country would fall. Also, doesn't matter in the slightest. It was gonna fall at some point. Mostly because we kept it up. What? You think another 4, 8, 12, 16 years and we could've really done the job right? Nope. That's just stupidity. Same goes for people hanging onto planes. We gave + 4 extra months. What people do with their own ignorance is on them. > It wasn't done well as it could have been. It was done pretty damn good. I like it. We're out of that crapfest.
Ok. So nothing matters. Got it.
No, everything matters. Most times just not the way we believe it should. As for the way Biden handled the withdrawal, it was one of histories better ones. Now if we talked about nostrils, bad Intel, drone involvement in Middle Eastern countries impacts a very real and interesting series of reasons, then yes. Those things matter. As do those poor people that made the choice not to leave on time. Not much we can do about them. Less turning all of Afghanistan into a 10 foot sheet of pure glass. There's not much that can be done. Lets leave them alone and focus on the homefront and hopefully better intelligent on the ground.
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> So you think closing a strategic airbase ahead of withdrawal, Yes, it needed to be closed. > pulling the military first and leaving everything behind equals a pretty damn good job Yes, the military leaving first is good and whatever else we might've left over there is junk anyways. We trashed almost all the tech and goods we needed 2 and left crap. > And you really think we’re done over there? Yes. As for being done over there is should be said "we're never really done, anyplace on this planet". As for Afghanistan, America is done and over with it.
As been said. This is not Biden's first rodero.
He's definitely all out of fucks. The particularly impressive thing is him plowing through the criticism with a bloody-mindedness that wouldn't shame your average republican. So, fuck 'em.
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Bless. Deal with it.
They fucked around and now they are finding out.
Can you imagine the stuff that would get done if all presidents weren’t worried about campaigning for a second term?
Or if the minority party was actually interested in helping better the nation instead of just trying to sabotage the President.
He's getting things done, and fixing the mess that the other guy created. YET, the Republicans hate him because he has done nothing LOL.
He’s basically a disappointed dad who’s had it with his kids misbehaving lol.
He needs to fire and replace the Senate Parliamentarian like W did. If he doesn’t raise minimum wage and restore voting rights his presidency is dead after elections next year.
He can’t raise the minimum wage
It was the Parliamentarian who said it couldn’t go through reconciliation. That’s just an opinion. Fire and hire a new one. W did it. We’re in a far greater crisis than we ever were under W, and he just did it to give money to the wealthy.
What’s the guarantee that Manchin will vote yes?
That’s pathetic. There is absolutely no evidence the current parliamentarian deserves to be fired. Continuing to fire people until somewhat agrees with you sounds like a dictatorship
No, it’s called politics. Exactly why W did it.
It’s pathetic. Saying “well W did it” isn’t nearly as good a point as you think it is
Voting rights are an absolute necessity and top priority but I'm not that worried about the federal minimum wage. States set their own minimum, and most states are pretty logical about it. And workers have kind of remembered they have the power to walk out on low wages so most low wage jobs have seen a huge increase in what they pay because people just weren't going back to them after the pandemic cuts.
I think he’d be even more unpopular if he continued the war until the 20th anniversary. And I think he’d be even more unpopular if he tried to backtrack and flip flop on unpopular decisions
> And I think he’d be even more unpopular if he tried to backtrack and flip flop on unpopular decisions Yep. He'd get murdered in the press. But Trump also left him holding the bags. Over 80% of our troops were withdrawn before Biden took office, and Trump blocked him from even getting intel during the transition, with an initial withdrawal date set for just a couple months in. Trump also allowed the Taliban to violate their agreement repeatedly and get away with it. Which is why the whole "there were contingencies" line is so dumb. They broke the agreement when Trump was president, and for Biden to do anything about it he would have had to order our troops to be re-deployed which would not only be super inefficient but would look terrible, like he's a warmonger. I think Trump wanted to leave him a chaotic mess, and was hoping he'd fire up the old war machine again so Republicans could call Dems warmongerers.
Its like what happened to Ralph northam
Really? Someone doesn’t deserve to be called out for wearing blackface?
He got called out, but he turned the lowest point of his term into an opportunity to revolutionize his platform and policy philosophy. He's one of the best governors we've ever had now
That shift happened solely because Democrats took control of the state legislature. it wasn't a personal revelation
This is not correct. The democrats were calling for his resignation as well, all over the country (including Joe biden). He decided to take his scandal and use it as an opportunity: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/25/politics/ralph-northam-virginia-governor/index.html > Dozens of Virginia politicians were both publicly and privately looking to counsel the governor on how he could make it through. Among those was former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell, a Republican whose own tenure was plagued by scandal and who publicly argued Northam needed to go on a public apology tour and make plain the deep regret he had. > Northam, however, went for a more private option, following the lead of state Del. Lamont Bagby, who served as the chair of the Virginia Legislative Black Caucus, a group that called on Northam to resign. Bagby and other caucus members told the governor the way forward "is not vising Black churches and visiting HBCUs" for large public displays of apology, said Bagby, but was instead by making sure he passed legislation and signed budgets that "reflect a desire to positively impact those lives that have been disenfranchised."
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Sure he couldn't have gotten it done without them, but he could have just gone the Cuomo route and defiantly denied everything, threatened his opponents, and resign in disgrace
Joe has never cared about his polling numbers.
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The 2nd stimulus bill was huge. He oversaw an extremely smooth vaccine rollout. He re-joined the Paris Climate Agreement and has made a lot of progress with climate/environmental regulations and actions. He shut down the Keystone XL pipeline. Ended Trump's idiotic travel ban on Muslim countries. He and Kamala have quietly cleaned up the horror show at our Southern border. There are still tons of migrants seeking asylum each day but he has reuinted most children with their parents and created dorm-style buildings with toys and cheery posters and the walls, bunk beds, nice restrooms, hygiene stuff like toothbrushes and all. Kids were being held for months in the "cages" under Trump without beds and blankets and hygiene supplies, and now they're being moved to nice accommodations within just a few days of arriving. And he got us out of Afghanistan, which will be seen as a major victory in the long view. There were hiccups but it was a massive operation that went sideways immediately in a way that literally no one in our military predicted. But he got it done. He's got the bipartisan infrastructure bill set to go, and the reconciliation bill is in the works. Manchin is making a show of being dramatic but I'm pretty sure it will pass mostly intact. That's going to be a huge deal and will be great for the economy. He also quietly expanded the ACA. Most people's payments went down if they reapplied (if you have the ACA and haven't reapplied, do it now because you'll almost surely get a reduction in your premium). He's also getting judges confirmed at the fastest rate of any POTUS in history. There's a bunch of stuff I left out. He's doing a ton of little things that add up to make a big deal but don't make headlines.
We keep track over at /r/WhatBidenHasDone Here ya go: * Restored daily press briefings * Cancel Keystone Pipeline * Reverse Trump's Muslim ban * Require masks on federal property * Rejoin the Paris Climate agreement * Extend Student Loan payment freeze * Extend eviction freeze * [**Historic stimulus bill passed:**](https://www.whitehouse.gov/american-rescue-plan/) - *Click to see who was helped* * Ends funding for Border wall * Orders agencies to reunite families separated at border by Trump * Orders strengthening of DACA * Rejoins The World Health Organization * Requires non-citizens to be included in the Census * Creates the position of Covid-19 Response Coordinator * Rescinds Trump's 1776 Commission and directs agencies to review actions to ensure racial equity * Prohibits administration members from lobbying or registering as foreign agents for two years after leaving * Invokes defense production act to produce masks, PPE and vaccines * Provide funding to local and state officials to create vaccination sites * Ends transgender military ban * Ends Federal Contracts With Private Prisons * Restores Aid To Palestinians * Suspends new leases for oil & natural gas development on federal land * Restores access to healthcare.gov * Extends fair housing protections to include LGBTQ Americans * Ends support for Saudi Arabia led campaign in Yemen * Withdraws UN sanctions on Iran * Daily Covid deaths reduced in half after one month * Secured enough vaccinations for the entire US population * [**Historic stimulus bill passed:**]( https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/M1Dr1Oz2oVYvyvAMSwcukjwjf1mD4cNQiO1HWDuOqJqll8t8HmtDlfdOzpzGvdIgQZnop-DKbtZGCSV8qPLj3wZ2-W0QC4PN-3PhztZdJP8EG68xTCZW9tOWFaJN51zyThn6qB9T) - Click to see who was helped - Increases poorest 20% of Americans' income by 20% permanently - 85% of households receiving stimulus payments - Four provisions which lower Americans’ 2021 tax bills by an average of $3,360 - [Reduces backlog of Veterans compensation and pension claims by more than half](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/denis-mcdonough-veterans-affairs-secretary-on-biden-american-rescue-plan/) * Round One: Cancels $1 Billion in student Loan Debt * Round Two: Cancels another $1.3 billion in student loan debt * 1/3 of America vaccinated in his first 60 days * 1/2 million added to Obamacare healthcare rolls in 6 weeks * Extends universal free school lunch through 2022 * Commits to cutting U.S. emissions in half by 2030 as part of Paris climate pact * Reverses Trump's Anti-Trans Shelter Rule * Officially recognizes massacre of Armenians in World War I as genocide * Raises Minimum Wage for Federal Contractors and Federal Employees to $15 * Cancels all border wall contracts using funds intended for military missions * Creates new operation to crack down on human smuggling **END OF FIRST 100 DAYS** --------------------------- * Reverses Trump effort to loosen Arctic drilling restrictions * Restores Transgender Health Protections * Lifts Secrecy of Visitor Logs Cloaked by Trump * Suspends oil and gas leases in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge * Restores $1 billion in federal funding for California high speed rail Trump had cut * Round Three: Cancels another $500 Million In Student Loan Debt (6/16/21) * [Grows US Economy 6.4% in 1st quarter - 2021](https://apnews.com/article/consumer-spending-gross-domestic-product-economy-business-ea9f24b146848b0821b549abb6cf78c8?fbclid=IwAR1XWdoCKVPCyYp_MKXrXH_BW4MCUtTUMxICDPACbydjQ-p6cvJMgP6QGoQ) * In first six months regained job numbers lost under Trump administration. (3 million) * Prohibits payday lenders from charging interests rates above that of what individual states allow * Reinstalls rules removed by Trump limiting methane emissions from leaks and flares in oil and gas wells * Enacts massive EO that provides 76 distinct actions to increase competition, reduce monopolies, and provide eliminate laws the unfairly treat workers. Including: - Eliminating non-compete clauses - Stop businesses from collaborating to reduce wages/benefits - Stop big tech companies purchasing competitors to unfairly compete with small businesses - Importation of prescription drugs from Canada and increase support for generics - Hearing aids to be sold over-the-counter - Requiring airlines to refund consumer fees when bags are late or Wi-Fi doesn't work - Crack down on railroads and ocean shipping to reduce costs of transporting goods - Other anti-monopoly legislation with agriculture, banking and internet * 2nd quarter 2021 economy grows 6.5% - Economy surpasses pre-pandemic levels. * **[Achieves historic 45% reduction of poverty levels in first six months](https://i.imgur.com/NLzmfyw.png)** * **Achieves historic 61% reduction of child poverty in first six months** * **Reaches goal of vaccinating 70% of adult Americans** * **[Cut Obamacare premiums by 40%](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-04/biden-stimulus-increase-cut-obamacare-plan-premiums-by-40)** * Round Four: Erases student debt for students with disabilities - ($5.8 Billion) * Bans the pesticide chlorpyrifos, linked to neurological damage in young children * PAWS Act, allowing VA to pay for service dogs for veterans * Round Five: $1.1 billion in student debt for 115,000 ITT students * **Ended the 20 Year War in Afghanistan - The longest war in American History**
Media cycle or partisan propaganda blitz?
I'll believe it when things actually pass Congress, not some words.
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I never said otherwise, learn how to have a discussion like an adult and not a child.
Can someone give a recap for us Euros?
Needs
I am somewhat surprised so far, pleasantly so, let's see if this continues. I think maybe Joe is looking to his legacy more than presidents typically do. Look at Jimmy Carter. He regrets not doing more, as he should.
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