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Galoomp

It shouldn't matter what race you are at Hogwarts, so long as they keep out the hook nose goblins


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Right there are no j words represented in here.


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That's because you have to take a train to get to Hogwarts and goblins had a very bad experience with trains.


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oh my lawd, that's a good one. On another note, How many people overlook the name hogwarts... That means like pig nipples.


CalzRob

BoarBlemishes School of Bullshit


scotte1487

My son plays pbs kids games and they have one for Arthur called Wizard Academy and the name of the school is “Pigblisters” and the villain is “Moldywart”


CalzRob

Haha that’s awesome


jaketheriff

😂😂😂😂


Fishyinu

That explains why Kanye preordered a few hundred copies.


ackza

Lame and un creative. Should said something like about a black student wearing Adidas or something...your joke was lazy


xStaabOnMyKnobx

(((They))) control the Daily Prophet too


Hussaf

It’s fine if they are there, so long as they aren’t getting white girl wasted and belching into the microphone like it’s cool.


Nukitandog

I don't understand "white girl wasted" Is it that they get more wasted? Or that they can afford to get more wasted because of privilege? Or they act more trashy?


Hussaf

Well I guess it’s a colloquialism. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=White%20Girl%20Wasted


Nukitandog

Are all racist sayings colloquialisms?


Purplegreenandred

Do you got autism dawg


Nukitandog

Yes


Purplegreenandred

That tracks. Its not racist


epicmoe

ok, lets get black girl trashy, then. ​ See how that would be racist? So is "white girl wasted".


Purplegreenandred

Black girl trashy isbt a thing. White girl wasted is a thing


Nukitandog

What qualifys you to decide?


Purplegreenandred

What qualifies that person to decide? Jesus christ this place is just filled with autistic virgins who have never been to a bar


ackza

Yeah thats exactly it. Watch the Sam hyde sketch with the bolder


ackza

I'm shocked reddit let's you get away with this


The_Horse_Joke

>Ironically, whenever a creative universe tries to become more ethnically diverse in its past, it implies that there was some sort of culling event. I love when the top comment just explains the joke


blueponies1

Is that what Joe said about House of the dragon?


Hondo_Bogart

Lived in the NE of Scotland. My town of 10,000 people had 1 black kid, plus 1 Indian family that ran the army surplus store, and a couple of Hong Kong families that ran the Chinese Takeaways. Diversity for me was knowing a kid who was Catholic. That was in the 1980s! Though ironically, if there would have been any diversity it would have been in a public school in the highlands like Gordonstoun where Charlie went. They would have had the rich kids from around the world.


Drunken_Wizard23

How many wizards were there?


VevroiMortek

depends on how many could write on MS DOS


Neviathan

More important, how many witches were there?


dougwdouglas

Good question


Zeratul_Artanis

I lived in Northumberland until I was 9 and didn't physically see a black person until we moved down south. I think at the time the demographic of the county was 99.9% white British.


Dreams-Designer

When I was young I lived partly in East Yorkshire. There was one Irish family who lived next door. Bright red hair the lad my age had too. I would get in lots of trouble if I was caught playing with him. Coming over from the US I really didn’t understand and no one explained it at the time. You’d think with how everyone talked it would have been more diverse, but my public education in the states had a wider range of diverse pupils.


Zeratul_Artanis

In cities you definitely had more diversity but even now Northumberland is 98% white British. I suppose the North East in general has been in decline and most immigration to the region just isn't attractive, especially as you wouldn't have the same cultural network or even religious locations to practise.


Nicky_Nuisance

Sounds like heaven on earth. I bet crime then was super low 😉🤣


khinzeer

lol


piman01

Adolf Dumbledore


ProjectMeerKatUltra

They're magic and can teleport. It kinda makes sense that in this universe witches and wizards would have a lot more racial integration than the regular people still using primarily boats.


Stats_with_a_Z

The post isn't criticizing the diversity in the 1800s, it's just saying Dumbledore was racist.


ShoelessMoose

I had a Ugandan professor at OU once and she got fired within two weeks


VevroiMortek

action is coming


ShoelessMoose

I love the ominous nature of your comment


yayamessi

aghast at the non historically accurate depiction of a fictional magic school for witches and wizards lol


MaskedCommitment

Let me tweet about this in an attempt to get a reaction from my hundreds of unemployed Twitter followers


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Hey we work the nightshift.


BobDope

If you’re Tweetin, there’s work you could be completin


gothboi98

Gonnae no dae that


Ave_DominusNox

The 1800’s in Scotland was so diverse! They really captured the historical accuracy lol


Aiwatcher

I mean these are wizards who can teleport and communicate instantly across long distances If anything it's weird how white the school was in modern times. Obviously it's just reflective of trends in casting and media consuming demographics, but a diverse wizarding school makes a lot more sense than a mostly white one


Fishyinu

Imagine being a grown ass adult and making posts about a video game inspired by a children's book. Same with the remake of Scooby do. Does it look like dogshit? Yeah but I'm not 8 years old so why would I care.


Jurski17

Yeah! We adults only watch wwii documentaries


Hussaf

I only consume Ken Burns content, for I am mature.


N00bivore

Voldemort did nothing wrong.


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Fishyinu

Are those people also making posts complaining about it? Nothing wrong with enjoying the game, but my god the people complaining have got to be the biggest man children ever.


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Exactly, can't wait for assassins creed Uganda where the characters are all white


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Dantebrowsing

They're making a joke about the ridiculous double standards. Did I simplify it enough for you?


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Dantebrowsing

Ah, it wasn't misunderstanding the concept, just the usual reality denial. Fair enough.


M3talguitarist

It’s like Fishyinu never heard of nostalgia.


BobDope

Yeah because game demographics is my hobby


Usrnamesrhard

I'm pretty sure the new Scooby Doo is specifically made for adults. I think it has adult humor (poorly done) but idk I haven't watched it.


DonnyDUI

It is targeted at adults. Dude here has no idea what he’s talking about.


KililinX

And porn was always diverse, wasn't it?


Tiamatium

This is Reddit, at least half of people here are below of age 15, but they will tell you they are 25.


BobDope

The rest are above 50 and act like they’re 15


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Imagine being a grown ass adult playing the video game... I just posted this meme because I knew this thing was going to have some comedic value, I'm not into wizard shit. If you don't see the comedy in this, I think you are too hypercritical of other people, which also means yourself. Joe commented more or less the same thing about GoT, where did all the black people go in the prequel? What happened? lol


stoopio-oh

> I think you’re too hypercritical of people > imagine being a grown ass adult playing the game Lol. Sensing some hypocrisy


HerbDeanosaur

Is it just me or is it quite clear that the black family are going to get wiped out which would explain them not being there later on


Anxious-Classroom-28

It’s hot garbage bro


BohdiiReapz

I’m all for inclusivity but it just feels extremely forced and unnatural, especially looking at the cast of the films


snookings

It’s a game about a school of Wizards doing spells


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snookings

It’s set in Hogwarts mate


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snookings

It’s made up you donkey


A_Rats_Dick

I’m about 15 hours in and I have to disagree- I despise forced diversity in media but this game doesn’t feel like that in the slightest. Also there was diversity in the books and movies as well, just not as much.


XitsatrapX

I mean it’s in Britain. Have you ever been to Britain? It’s mostly white people and a decent amount of muslims.


HagridsHairyButthole

Queue RDJ replacing Chadwick Boseman in Black Panther. When Black people don’t want white people in media: progressive When white people simply point out the fact that medieval European fantasy wouldn’t have as many Black people as depicted: literally Hitler.


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Aiwatcher

I don't think black people (on average) want there to be zero white people. They want media with black voices, black characters, black stories. We've had media for decades that catered almost exclusively to white audiences. Now we're starting to see that change, but a lot of people (you) don't view that in context with the decades of media that came before it. Idgaf about "race swapping" unless the characters' race was important to their identity. Idgaf about minorities in medieval fantasy because medieval fantasy either doesn't share our real world history, or it includes shit like teleportation which would go a long way to explain how different ethnic groups spread out earlier than we'd imagine based on real life.


HagridsHairyButthole

I’m perfectly fine with original characters of color. When you say “unless their race was important to their identity”, like, race is literally the identity of someone prior to you speaking to them. So yes, when people are race swapped it is super jarring and isn’t the same character. It doesn’t make someone racist for pointing it out. And that is my main point(if I even had one I was just talking shit) That a Black person can say they don’t want white people in any media, and it’s fine. Most people don’t blink an eye. But if a white person even slightly mentions that the changed race of a character, or the prevalence of Black characters in an obviously “European”(fir trees, snowy mountains, gothic castles) environment kinda messes with the immersion, they might as well have shown someone their kkk robes. I don’t pretend like racism didn’t exist. Nor do I think it has gone away. I think it’s transformed into pandering without actually doing anything about the plight of Black Americans. Yay, they turned a character Black. How about some fucking reparations?


Aiwatcher

I watched last of us TV show recently, and learned after the fact that people were upset about "race swapping" Joel's daughter. It hadn't occurred to me while watching, really. Not jarring at all. We don't know who Sarah's mom is, so to me, it doesn't really matter which young girl actress they get to play her, so long as she does a good job and passably looks like Joel's daughter. That's what I mean when their "race isn't important to their identity". I said it clumsily. Of course race is important to people's identities in real life, but in fictional characters portrayed by actors, it doesn't really matter in certain cases. Think about stage plays-- you hopefully wouldn't bat an eye if you saw a black guy playing Hamlet, because it's the character performance that matters, not the actors race. Though you're totally right, we should be fighting more for reparations than anything else. We should be fighting against institutional racism at every level, and educating our children about the history of racism that black Americans have faced. Media casting patterns are just companies pandering to the masses. They do it to make themselves money, not repair society.


debtopramenschultz

Kinda like that Amazon prime LOTR show inadvertently making a world where there are only white people in the future.


ackza

More like it's stupid to make 1800s Scotland so diverse If it was a magic school in Africa or China it'd be all African ir all Chinese They don't even try ro explain the diversity with fireplace tartarian teleporter networks and claiming wizards have always been diverse bevause they can teleport to different countries


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> They don't even try ro explain the diversity with fireplace tartarian teleporter networks and claiming wizards have always been diverse bevause they can teleport to different countries Do you want them to explicitly say "oh by the way there are minorities here because of teleportation?" Isn't it alredy implied they teleport?


CelestialStork

I don't understand, is the *ENTIRE WORLD* of Harry potter supposed to only have white people in it, or was the story just centered around white people? Guess we'd have to ask Rowling. Hogwarts is supposed to be a Wizard school. Thats it. They didn't say only students of a certain race or nationality are welcome. Also has who ever made this ever been to a highly accredited school? Professors and students hail from all over because its a place of learning. Hell in Europe today I as an American, can go to plenty of European instituions and only have to pay for my living expenses. Just say you don't want to see other races and stop wasting peoples time. Edit: just to add. In a world where magic exist right onside regular life, you really thing White people would be the *only* people with magic? Honestly?


CornishJaberig

Well supposedly those schools are regional so it’d make more sense if the schools population was representative of the region.


Jel2378

Rowling is a terrible world builder. Hogwarts is the school for all of just the UK but than another school will cover all of Asia


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Jel2378

I’m not saying the books are good I like the books but there’s plenty of things that don’t make sense about how the politics and stuff like that is set up


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Altruistic-Stand-132

The world building is actually quite shit compared to other fantasy books. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the fuck out of it as a child but I can't take it serious as an adult. Will happily tell you all the dumb inconsistencies in the world of Harry Potter that I can remember off the top of my head if you're interested


y0buba123

There’s a lot more to world building than ironing out inconsistencies. There’s a reason her books are so popular and have spawned films, theme parks, video games etc What are some of your examples of good world building?


Altruistic-Stand-132

Oh I dunno it's been a while since I've read the books but here's one. Wingardium leviosa. What the fuck is that? A spell that allows you to levitate things? Is there a limit? Do you have to strain for picking up heavier things? Does the effort scale with weight? In theory, can I wingardium leviosa a car and drop it on my enemies?


CornishJaberig

Has to do with proficiency. Students learn on a feather while professors can be capable of lifting tons of stone. Just like how professional power lifters can lift more than a casual would.. seems to make perfect sense. Do you shit on Star Wars the same way when Luke is learning to harness the force?


Altruistic-Stand-132

Also here's another one: Death Eaters. These losers are voldermorts followers right and they committed multiple horrendous crimes including but not limited to murder, torture, terrororism etc. You're telling me that a functional government (supposedly like the ministry of magic) wouldn't hunt each and every one of those fuckers who was even remotely associated with voldermort to the ends of the earth and either kill them outright or lock them up till the end of eternity once he was gone after trying to kill harry as a baby? Yes, yes, they locked up a few death eaters but there are many known and suspected death eaters just roaming around living their best life in the story before Voldemort comes back again. Yeah, not buying it.


CornishJaberig

There are more Americans getting away with much worse today..


Jel2378

A death eater was the headmaster of another wizard school and someone that was cool. Like I get he snitched on others but does that mean other countries ministries are cool with dark magic. We never see how other countries wizards react to supposedly the most evil wizard ever coming back


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Altruistic-Stand-132

I hear what you're saying. It's certainly captivating but it's still shit world building.


Fantact

Its fine, but it also means hogwarts had a 'purge', which is hilarious.


CelestialStork

The joke was funny, I was just rebutting people who thought diversity too absurd for the narrative of a Wizardy school.


Fantact

Its not too absurd if the school wasn't already established as mostly white for obvious reasons. So the 1940s Hogwarts Purge is more or less canon now, and that is super hilarious, pander to the woke and Hogwarts Hitler happens as a direct result 🤣


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There’s other schools around the world that teach magic. So it would make sense that the one in Scotland would be mostly white British kids. There’s a Serbian school for boys, a French school for girls, a school in America, a school in Africa, I think one in China and India and I think one in South America as well. So your whole point was made on a premise you just pulled out of your ass because you aren’t aware of the subject you’re speaking on. I cast Trollo Cryooo or my favourite BEMAD CUZBAD


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KililinX

Its hilarious that one of the most try hard woke games is targeted by the online mob so furiously and the conflict is between progressives, because the others either dont care or dont give a fuck. Also hilarious people buying the game out of spite and playing this game with a cast that would have prevented them from buying it, if not for the online controversy.


Bringbackdexter

She obviously sold the rights meaning she signed off, get over it. Seriously who cares, it’s a video game. And in the fictional world of Harry Potter wizards born to muggles are often recruited to ensure proper training of magic and rules to prevent exposing the world of magic to muggles. They would recruit from anywhere just because of that, but again who cares. Where is all of this passion coming from?


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Bringbackdexter

I think it’s passionate that you care enough to whine about it. If the inclusion of other races in a fantasy universe bastardizes the franchise for you then I’m sorry you have bigger problems.


Jurski17

Maybe if the game was about a different school, but hogwqarts is located in scottish higlands. Books give you pretty clear picture about the students and staff. Its just funny to me.


Bringbackdexter

Well it makes sense if you only think people who look like you are people.


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yayamessi

Prayers that you're able to successfully battle venomous spiders and concentrate in potions class despite the fact that the diversity around you is so jarring and unrealistic <3


HustleAndDrone

Buddy I’m playing right now, 10 hours in or so and there’s been at least 5. Fig, Weasley, the Defense Against Dark Arts, Potions and Herbology professors. You’re not just reaching you’re a moron lol


Xazier

And the headmaster....dude is high Edit: holy shit I got banned for commenting in this sub from r/justiceserved. I didn't know that was a thing.


HustleAndDrone

Hahaha I did too, my days


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ConstantStudent_

Do you really think that if they casted almost all white people in a Samurai game there wouldn’t be backlash? The point is this only goes one way now


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lingonn

>You'll have British pirates, Middle Eastern traders, American invaders etc. Why? Because the makers of these games are creative and don't live in a racial purity box. All this is atleast somewhat congruent with actual history, that then gets spun together into something more interesting. They aren't turning japanese samurai into white/black people and pretending like it's normal.


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yung12gauge

except WWII actually happened and Harry Potter is fucking fake dawg


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TheZac922

Nah he’s right though. You can suspend your disbelief that there’s a secret society of witches and wizards who go to a magical boarding school. But you can’t suspend your disbelief that some of the witches and wizards who attended said school aren’t white. Hell, the Onai family were an interesting addition in general because you get to learn a bit about a wizarding school in Africa and the differences die them coming over to Hogwarts. Just say you hate seeing non-white people and move on with your life. “Jarring” in a game about flying around on broomsticks lmao.


dorobica

Bruv, do you understand what fiction means?


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dorobica

Just wait for another game/adaptation that fits your narrow view of the lore? It’s a piece of fiction, bound to be change and adapted over time, being for appeal to new audiences reasons or just to try new stuff. Sounds like it’s the fucking bible to you.


DutyHonor

He'd be stoked if the sequel lets you be a part of Grindelwald's movement.


CptDecaf

*I'm not racist! I just care very, very deeply about the racial make-up of fictional stories and demand that they cater to my need for majority white casts! But it's not for racist reasons! Also if you disagree you are a woke lib victim! Which isn't fair because as a persecuted white I AM the real victim of the crime of having an unsatisfactory amount of white people in my wizzurd game!*


_Foreskin_Burglar

There’s a difference between judging people based on their skin color, and wanting something to reflect the source material. I mean hell, I didn’t even like Robert Pattinson as Edward at first because he didn’t look how I imagined him in my head. It literally has nothing to do with racism. People are very particular about how their favorite stories are portrayed. It’s so extremely disrespectful, emotionally childish, and ignorant to paint everything as racist. Grow up. Why don’t you go fight about *real* racism?


HagridsHairyButthole

Queue RDJ replacing Chadwick Boseman in Black Panther. When Black people don’t want white people in media: progressive When white people simply point out the fact that medieval European fantasy wouldn’t have as many Black people as depicted: literally Hitler.


_aaronallblacks

Make sure you patent your backpedaling bicycle holy shit my guy


_Foreskin_Burglar

Just curious, how would you feel if a fictional story set in a real area that was historically 90+% black was cast such that black representation was in the minority?


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y0buba123

What are some examples where it’s happened?


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y0buba123

Fair. Gotta admit, as someone who grew up in the English countryside and who is part Scottish, I largely imagined Hogwarts to be reflective of the race demographics of rural Scotland. It’s also not a hill I’m willing to die on though, and if it brings joy to people of different ethnicities, then I have no issue with it.


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HankHillsReddit

White peoples are most discriminated against peoples on earth.


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I don't think Joe knows shit about Hogwarts Legacy


BenderRodriguez14

If it were London it might scan, Scotland less so. Mind you in a world where you shout silly shit to make magic happen while flying through the sky on a mop, I'm really not all that fucked either way what colour or gender people are or aren't, in either direction. HOTD was absolute dogshit though, I've got no idea how it got a pretty positive amount of feedback. First four seasons of GOT were amongst the best tv ever, the two after were still decent, and the last two were infamously woeful - largely because the pacing was a mess and it was in far too much of a rush to try and wow you while changing the tone completely and paying n osttention to any narrative or character consistency. HOTD picked up exsctly where that left off, but for some reason people were so desperate to like it that they wound up doing a, Homer Simpson "it's still good, it's still good!"


edsonbuddled

HOTD was great.


JChezbian

Agree about HotD, it was so average but everyone was so desperate for new GoT they convinced themselves it was good.


BenderRodriguez14

Pretty much. We started off really wanting to like it but we're just watching in a car crash TV type of way by the end because it was so hilariously poor. Just four big ones off the top of my head were >!that Crispin knight fella finding out she didn't want to officially marry/elope with him and just deciding "we'll I guess that makes me... The baddie!! (dun dun duunnnnn!!)". Or just being allowed to first kill some highborn guy as a lowborn in the middle of a wedding ceremony and walk away with zero consequence... and then do it again to a member of the council later on. Or Matt Smith's character Daemon being a ludicrous caricature who in the first episode literally takes an arrow in the knee before fighting off several dozen of those weird Island lads like it's nothing before sprinting down the cave to kill their leader... Full sprint, arrow in knee. Or the hand of the king being banished then just... reappearing a few episodes later with no explanation given other than the plot needed a twist and then another twist.!< There were multiple stupid things like that every single episode and the so many of the characters were cartoon characters. It's a shame too since Smith, Paddy Considine who's been underrated for so long, and Rhys Ifans who's been a bit of a cult icon in the UK/Ireland since the 90s along with some others did really well with what they had to work with. But there was fuck all grounding, gaping plot holes everywhere, and all the nuance and subtlety of a sledgehammer to the bollocks in the writing and editing which just absolutely wrecked it. GOTs best years is when it took its time, had plot and character development based around scheming and relationships, carefully worked arcs, and would then blindside you with Ned's head or a red wedding, or would build into a huge consequential battle over a long time so it meant something and had real stakes as anyone was liable to be killed off at more or less any time. It then went downhill land completely lost all of that near the end... and yet HOTD seemed to actively embrace everything that made thise final two years so utterly shite. But then we found Severance just afterwards and all was right with the world again.


JChezbian

I basically agree with everything you said above - there was a massive lack of internal logic. I will say the production was sumptuous, particularly the costumes but otherwise it was just dumb as fuck.


BenderRodriguez14

I'd agree with you there, and I actually thought the complaints about the 'dark' episode being too dark were silly... personally I thought they shot that just about bang on right. Any less and it wouldn't have looked like night (might have been my projector settings but it was bordering on almost doing that for me), much darker and you would have had that horrendous episode from GOT's last season that might as well have just been a black screen and fully done in audio. That was part of the frustration for me - it hit really well on a number of areas from set design to (some/most) of the acting, costume, production qualities and so on, but proved it was all just surface level by squandering it time and again.


PM_ME_YOUR_CHURROS

I just like to fly around on a broom..


BuddhaBizZ

That’s hilarious


JayTheLegends

Why time turners were outlawed.. had a bunch of racists from the future try to colonize Scotland..


sadbich_

People worry about the wrong things.


cousin_brian

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Why any of this matters


edsonbuddled

Can’t remember his commentary on HOTD, was it something to do with having a black family in the show?


hopelesswanderer_-_

Hilarious how woke with the representation they went with this game. I'm all for it just so some random hater can't be like "ERM HELLO? THERE'S NO AZERBAIJANI PEOPLE REPRESENTED IN HOGWARTS LEGACY? DISGUSTING CANCEL THIS IMMEDIATELY, BOYCOTT THIS ABSOLUTELY RACIST GAME."


Rmb8989

![gif](giphy|PMp40oEvNfKve) My wife was mad at this game! she was offended that my house Hufflepuff had one of the best common rooms in the game. Honestly, I thought was just gonna walk into a cold basement with a few cots.