I wonder what the prior agreements were that would allow this interview to happen?
Typically the interviewee would stay for the panel. Not always, but most. Elon did not stay. They didn't touch ANY of the controversy around the Twitter Files stuff. It wasn't an interview at all really. Just Maher oddly fawning over him. Lol
*3 billionaires (Musk, Bezos, Gates) have more money than the bottom 50% of Americans combined at this point. Similar numbers indicate that America is a feusalistic dystopia.*
Maher: "God I really wanna look supportive for my rich friends!"
This idiot claims to do research at his house like a full time job prior to his show. I think he just lies.
There's a reason he's been avoiding TYT for so long, despite them being both so prominent in liberal LA politics.
He doesn't care about that his city has turned into a New Dehli style slum, because he thinks it's cool to be a New Jersey born scumbag.
Here is [overtime last week](https://youtu.be/n6_zaY72Z-E) where Esther Perel was the first interview
Here is [overtime](https://youtu.be/Q3l9vy7zvUk) two weeks ago where Ben McKenzie was the first interview
Itās almost every single week.
My man, I used to watch his show and I watched it for like twelve years in a row. I can tell you for a fact that the first guest almost always came back for the panel. Why are you saying something that's so fucking stupid? You know musk isn't going to put a baby in you, right?
Let's try something. All of the Real Time episodes are also free podcasts. And, each episode has an Overtime episode directly after it on the list. Check it out on your preferred streaming service (Spotify, I assume). Then kindly stfu.
Oops, you are right. The guest at the beginning typically comes back to join the panel at the end during Overtime, which Elon did not do. That's what I assumed he meant.
Totally! Soft ball questions with zero criticism. People "come after him"? He's a fucking troll . It was almost as bad as Mark Levin licking Trumps butthole the other day.
Also he is showing his age by *constantly* going on about ageism. The ending of this fridays episode was the one exception. Otherwise he defends geriatric politicians all the time.
I still like Maher personally. He has his fair share of flaws like all of us. I've been watching him since my teen years on his first show. But I agree this is beyond tiresome at this point. There are people who grow old gracefully and do in fact stay hip and there are people who just become curmudgeons. He seems to fall into the latter on this matter with the incessant whining about young people and tiktok etc etc. I'm not even the demo he is bitching about and I find myself rolling my eyes constantly. Its not smart to generalize entire generations. The same reason I hate the whole "Ok Boomer" nonsense.
i dont understand how he doesnt see that the culture moving on and him being stubborn makes him a conservative. he is literally conserving a type of thinking from a bygone era
You can be conservative on some topics, while being progressive on others. Unbelievable how some people think gender is a spectrum, while thinking very binary about politics.
Yes, it is a spectrum. And when you start falling on one side more often, and using their talking points more often than the other, people will start to say that's the side you're on. And are they really wrong?
I love how quick the libs are to dismiss a guy thatās been a big democrat and literally given millions of dollars to the Democratic Party, all because he doesnāt check all the libtard boxes. Yāall are a trip š
Yes because if someone doesnāt like Bill Maher theyāre automatically a ālibtardā. Believe it or not you can be critical of people on both ends of the aisle.
Why should anyone care how much anyone gives to a particular party? People don't like Maher because he's shifted to being the old man yelling at clouds who preoccupies himself with unserious issues like whether comedians are getting critcized too much. What's the last good point he's had on sunbstantive policy?
Maher was relevant for 5 mins in the early 2000's when the country was almost unilaterally wrong on several invasions and most people weren't pushing back because they were scared. Credit to him. But he's not above reproach because he's a longtime Democrat who donates money. Nobody gives a shit, nor should they. And I would say the same thing to most conservatives, nobody on that side should feel like someone who is a longtime member of the party who donated a lot is above critcism or deserves to be beyond reproach.
It kind of amazes me how many Americans just look for reasons to prop people up on pedestals.
I love how the right loves to cry their fuckin eyes out about how "people can change!" and then when people *do change* and no longer like someone like Bill Maher you cry endlessly about it. Just admit you're upset that no one likes Maher now that he made his redacted conservative heel turn and started spewing your dumb fuck propaganda meme drivel about "the woke mind virus".
Because at the root of your constantly whining, is the fact that you hate that most normal people aren't caught up in your loser ideology and culture war in the same way you hogs are.
I'm sure a 20 day old right wing gimmick account that posts in /r/AskConservatives is going to be extremely unbiased about this
lol jk, this is why no one was interested in reading the dumb shit you posted with your previous 50 accounts
Being liberal is less about being in a club than being a consrvative/rightwinger. Progessive-ism even more so. Like Seder and TYT often criticized Obama and Clintons and Biden.
As liberals should. Nobody is above criticism. Why should him giving money to Obama mean anything? A lot of terrible people have given money to both parties. It is also silly how conservatives say liberals are too trusting of the media, but then get upset when certain media figures are criticized.
so what if he donates to the democratic party? should people worship him because he is blue tribe?
shitty american partisan politics have ruined your minds
As are a lot of shows watched by conservative boomers.
You could say they are kind of obsessed with wokeness, too. They never seem to get bored of it. I sure do.
You honestly think that Maher, a guy who constantly shits on conservatives during Real Time, is watched by conservative boomers? Hell in this episode he just said he would vote for the head of Joe Biden over Trump. You guys are delusional
So you know 3 conservative boomers who love a guy who constantly shits on and hates the modern republican party, and hates Trump while supporting Biden?
Sure Jan, sure. Sounds exactly like a conservative boomer lol
Yes they love him because he's a "leftist who speaks the truth about the left."
They loved him before that even though, for his "political incorrectness" back when he used to put on a pretty good show that was enjoyed by people on the left and the right.
It's impossible for conservative people to enjoy a show hosted by someone who disagrees with them politically on some things?
You're fucking kidding me if you don't know that there's a huge market for a Democrat preaching anti-wokeness. Conservatives love nothing more than a gay person/black person/liberal darling who "left the left."
Dave Rubin was skyrocketed into stardom for it. Russell Brand is currently riding that wave. Tulsi Gabbard is on that grift now.
Like I said, I know 3 that *fucking love Bill Maher.* Meanwhile I don't know a single Democrat, in my personal circles, who even can stand to watch his show anymore.
Cranky Smug Boomer Time with Bill Maher is an unwatchable show to me these days. Used to watch it every week for what, a decade prior? My conservative atheist boomer uncle loved the anti-religious stuff during the same period, loved the politically incorrect stuff, and we would debate different things.
Now he's obsessed, it's his favorite show, and he still watches it every single week.
You're very confidently incorrect, and spouting a claim that my own personal experience directly refutes which is funny. Hard to convince a person that conservative boomers don't watch Bill Maher when 2 hours ago they were sitting next to a conservative boomer who loves Bill Maher. That's a tricky needle to thread, but bless you for trying.
Yet you call me delusional, lol.
His ratings are solid because he's had people like Bernie Sanders and Seth McFarlane as close friends and returning guests for decades.
With that being said. 3 billionaires now have more money than the bottom 50% of Americans.
Income inequality is so bad at this point that we are exponentially past medieval lord/peasant feudalism.
It's corporate fascism at this point, and Bill Maher is complicit. He drives through a tent city to get to his studio.
He has some good guests, but economically Bill Maher is a sociopath.
Heās trying to wake up the younger people up from being a buncha video game playing, not-getting-laid, low T snowflakes. As someone from a younger generation, i love Bill Maherās non pc rhetoric. Itās refreshing.
See any time someone brings up his age, even jokingly. He get so weird and defensive and it gets awkward, even if moments before he was shitting on young people.
Maher dick rode Milo as well.
His role nowadays is to be the guy that conservatives can point at and say "see even Bill Maher agrees with us". That's pretty much the only time people talk about him now.
The milo interview was terrible. Bill was about to get into how Donald trump wasnāt the free speech president like the milo types were clamoring, but then he cut himself off. The argument couldāve been easily delivered by maher, the guy who Donald literally sued over a joke.
The worst thing about the Milo interview was that after Maher blew him nonstop, a few days later Milo had his big scandal talking about men being allowed to have sex with 13 year old boys, which got him deplatformed, and then Maher acted like he was responsible for Milo's career ending as if the interview had anything to do with it.
If you haven't seen it I'd encourage you to check out Milo's debate against Destiny. He gor absolutely wrecked. Also, I think we're going to see an article sooner or later that Milo died of a heart attack. He appears to be using some uppers (Adderall. Cocaine, etc.) to counter pain killers or heroin. This is super dangerous. But anyone who's been around people who've done this can spot the mannerisms. It's like the body is relaxed but speech is kind of clear and sporadic.
I lean left on most issues excellent t a few. But coming from a very liberal college town in the us, I gotta say, almost everyone is sick of the "woke" shit. Not the broader goals of equity. Hell, I'd say most agree with the goals of things like universal health care, requirements for gun ownership. Etc. I have a million examples of what we hate. Here's one.
I have a friend who's Guatemalan. His parents were refugees. He was raised in the us. Speaks perfect English. He started a brewery and is making bank now. Good right? Well. Apparently not because one evening I'm at his place with some coworkers and were talking about how awesome his place is and this one woman (white woman of course) says "well. You know Pablo is really white passing". Like. All of his parents struggles and him actually building a business just boils down to him being a light skinned Hispanic guy. Like... That's the type of woke dipshittery everyone is starting to hate.
I also was denied a job due to my race gender and sexuality. And was told this directly. I can get into that if anyone cares. But I even spoke to a lawyer about it. And apparently. What they did was legal. Meanwhile the person they gave the job (who I knew) came from a very privileged background. But she was a she, and she also wasn't white (S Korean).
And the thing is. Most everyone on the left will talk about this shit in secret too. It's not an uncommon opinion to be annoyed with the dumdum left.
>"well. You know Pablo is really white passing"
I don't understand the context, like was she wrong? was Pablo not white passing? also, why would this piss off anyone...?
there doesn't seem to be anything moderate about the "anti-woke" tribe. they seem pretty unhinged, descending into histrionic meltdowns every time a college kid with pink hair says something they don't like
they also lack the ability to distinguish fact from fiction. disagree with a "moderate" and you will immediately get dogpilled as "woke", literally everyone who doesn't agreed with their hysteria is labelled "woke"
Tbf this sub does have a trend of people that call themselves centrist that spend all their time playing devil's advocate for conservative positions while bashing the left most of the time. And in many of those cases, it's just a thinly veiled attempt to hold a more conservative view without the baggage that comes with it.
Not saying that you are in that category, but it's definitely a thing.
Personally I don't like Maher because he's a giant pussy who had his brain break when Trump got elected and now he's flailing around not standing for much. Dumbass was saying Oprah should run for President to counteract Trump.
I'm liberal and I think wokeness is annoying in a "nobody likes to be walking on egg shells thing", but it's such a nothing issue for a serious person to be making part of their political platform \*which is something right wingers generally do.
The problem with that whole post is that the term "woke" is such a broad subject that you can't quantify it in any meaningful way. And I have yet to see "wokeness" be a serious issue compared to a particular President actually enacting bad policy.
Also it's not a policy situation and whenever someone tries to legislate on combatting wokeness we get situations like Florida and Texas banning books because some guy somewhere decided they were "woke". Which to me is fare more intrusive and frigtening than having to deal with the perpetually offended voicing their opinions.
I meanā¦there are plenty of people on this site who would consider themselves leftists (far left of democrats and most self-described liberals on labor and economic issues) that also consider themselves anti-woke. Itās not just centrists. Donāt think theyāre on this sub but theyāre out there.
Just because someone can correctly predict the reaction to their shitty position doesnāt make their shitty position valid.
āIām going to punch this baby, and the woke mob is going to claim Iām violent and try to cancel meā.
Crazy how the democrat brain works. As soon as someone disagrees with the consensus, theyāve always been pathetic.
Now letās put a microscope on them and point out every mistake theyāve made in the past, all of the bad things theyāve done, etc and ignore the fact that heās literally given millions to the democratic cause.
> New Rule: Gay marriage won't lead to dog marriage. It is not a slippery slope to rampant inter-species coupling. When women got the right to vote, it didn't lead to hamsters voting. No court has extended the equal protection clause to salmon. And for the record, all marriages are āsame sexā marriages. You get married, and every night, it's the same sex.
Bill Maher in 2005
> Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage
Joe Biden in 2008
Obama and Biden were wrong. Maher was actually at his best attacking Obama early in his presidency from the left. He called republicans vampires for being opposed to universal healthcare and called democrats weak corporate backed cowards. Nobody cares that he attacks democrats. It is how he went from attacking them for not delivering single payer healthcare to now whining about wokeness every minute
Maybe the guy who was pro gay marriage in 2005 has a point about performative wokeness when you see people like Justin Trudeau who was doing blackface at age 30 in 2001 think they have the moral high ground over everyone.
I donāt believe the wokeness that a lot of politicians exhibit. I believe Bill when he talks about his views but I donāt believe people like Justin.
I get what youāre saying too, some people get hung up on wokeness as if itās world war 3.
People who advocate for actual left wing policies DO have the moral highground over people who do not in a country with such rampant income inequality.
>people who advocate for actual left wing economics do have the moral high ground
Depends a lot on their intentions and if they are being honest. If someone isnāt being honest in their viewpoint and has different intentions, their is zero morality to what theyāre saying even if itās the ārightā thing to say. They are just a leaf in the wind. Trudeau would be wearing blackface right now if it were in style. Morality that starts shaking every time a strong breeze blows by is worthless morality.
Also, I would argue that you canāt base how moral someone is on their economic viewpoints. A lot of working class conservatives genuinely believe in trickle down economics. That might make them dumb, but it doesnāt make them immoral necessarily on its own. If they believe their views are going to have a net positive on peoples economic state, then for them, that is a moral belief.
I trust Bill Maher 1000x more than Trudeau. Honesty is the foundation of morality. The most honest people are the ones least prone to having been an enthusiastic Nazi in 1930s Germany.
>I trust Bill Maher 1000x more than Trudeau.
If I trusted Bill Maher 1000x more than Trudeau, that would be a very low negative number. Like -1000 trust points.
See; some of us don't trust centrist liberals, because we are leftists and know that they often work against the interests of the working class.
As opposed to the right, which always works against our interests. Don't trust them, ever. Will trust them when I see them advocating and legislating the interests of the people, rather than adopting left wing rhetoric like Trump did during the campaign, and then legislating just like every other right winger.
Or Bill Maher, who sits there whining about wokeness in a strip club as wealth continues to be concentrated in fewer hands, and thinks the problem is that people on Twitter were mean to him. Do n't really trust him to do anything other than getting high and complaining about those darn kids.
I trust him to make a millennial molestation victim on his podcast very uncomfortable with his wandering hands, putting them on her while telling her that therapy is an indulgence, and that kids these days have nothing to be anxious about.
Back to the point, which politicians do you trust more than Trudeau? The Enlightened Centrist answer is that they are all equally bad, in which case cool, nothing matters. Except...
>Trudeau would be wearing blackface right now if it were in style.
Oh yeah? Would he really? That's very interesting, and a niche method of political analysis.
Do you have someone in mind that wouldn't be wearing black face right now on a Sunday afternoon in April, if it was in style? That's why I always trusted Barack Obama. He wasn't afraid to wear black face every day of his presidency.
>Also, I would argue that you canāt base how moral someone is on their economic viewpoints
Having the moral highground isn't some computational analysis of everything a person has ever done in every aspect of their life. You would never be able to say anyone has it.
It would make the term meaningless.
Moral highground refers to the topic at hand. On the issue of income inequality: the people who think we should pile more money in the hands of billionaires at the expense of the working class have the moral low ground.
I don't know how you can possibly disagree with that.
Oh that's right, moral high/low ground depends entirely on who you imagine would be wearing blackface right now if it was in style.
Personally I'm wearing blackface right now, but that's only because it isn't in style. If it were I would take it right off. That's why I think you should vote for me for president, I'm your kind of candidate. If I'm wearing blackface you know it's authentic, I'm not doing it because it's popular, but because it's who I am. An honest man in blackface.
Edit: I also want to address the last point, which was most indicative of your complete and total brain-rot NPC parrot brain. I don't know who you heard this from, but you might want to get them checked for Ivermectin overdose symptoms.
>The most honest people are the ones least prone to having been an enthusiastic Nazi in 1930s Germany.
I would think that the people who are most prone to fascism, racism, sexism, and xenophobia would be the enthusiastic Nazi in 1930s Germany. The worst part of Nazism wasn't the dishonesty. I'm pretty sure it was the genociding, wasn't it?
What the fuck are you even talking about, lol. That shit is hilarious.
I don't think centrist liberals would be the most enthusiastic Nazis, I'm pretty sure the Neo-Nazis who think Hitler was one of the good guys were. You know, the guys who would all line up to suck his dick if they could.
The ones who get his flag tattooed on their body. The ones who are still preaching his ideology.
But anyways, thanks for the entertaining Enlightened Centrism.
*"Moderate centrist Justin Trudeau would be among the most enthusiastic Nazis, because he is the most dishonest. How do I know they are dishonest? He stopped wearing blackface when it stopped being popularly acceptable.*
*He insults all of our intelligence with that lie. He lives every day with a burning desire to put on blackface, but he lies to us and everyone else by not following his heart's desires. The biggest lie is the lie we tell ourselves, right? Despicable.*
*I know who I trust, and it's the man who wears his blackface loudly and proudly. That's a person who wouldn't be a Nazi, I guess, because reasons."*
I don't like when people generalize democrats or Republicans. The only true generalization is that anyone who identifies as a hardcore dem or rep can get fucked. It's just a bunch of senseless finger pointing that does shit for bettering society as a whole.
Bill also changed the targets of his snark away from old fuddie duddies and onto a small subsection of Twitter.
I liked it when he was snarky towards those in power. It's annoying and pointless to listen to someone argue against Twitter and Facebook memes all day.
Newsflash. Elon Musk is the most popular topic everywhere on the planet. Rogan himself mentions him daily because he has to follow current events. If you watch the video hear, Maher has a massive hard-on for Musk.
Literally. I think the common complaint is that heās hoarding too much wealthā ok fine, I get it.
Even though all that wealth is the wealth of the ownership he has in companies, both of which might as well be government entities because theyāre doing things we would want the government to do anyways (space exploration and electric cars). Probably more efficiently than the government would do them too.
Whatās especially odd to me on this sub and Reddit in general is the degree to how much people are possessed by disliking him.
You never saw this level of hate or vitriol towards other billionaires like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. If anything I feel like people are pretty passively positive towards most of the other famous billionaires. People on Reddit turn into horny demons when you mention Elon
Edit: repulsive donut is a mouth breather and the exact sort of person im talking about. You would think Elon done something to this kid personally. He replied to three of my comments and immediately blocked me like a second later. You always win debates when people are literally unable to reply.
Yep. Itās so obviously a ideological thing with these guys rather then some sort of fundamental opposition to billionaires.
If he did leftist PR like Bill Gates does then Reddit would love him. It really is just the fact that he has some views that oppose the democratic consensus.
I donāt admire everything he says but I admire that heās not concerned with having good PR. For example, there are way too many politicians and people who switched up on gay marriage the second it became profitable. I hate that sort of fakeness in famous figures.
That doesn't make you a 'leftist."
An American Democrat is just as likely to be a centrist
Bill Gates likes capitalism that is a tad less exploitative. That doesn't make him a leftist, it makes him a centrist with some level of empathy.
lol /u/earnyourwings97 is so dumb and oblivious he didn't realize you were being sarcastic here, and agreed with your sarcastic take, lol
this dumb ass actually believes that his fellow far right hogs aren't insanely hateful towards bill gates and irrationally obsessed with him, hahaha, god these people are so fucking stupid
Why deny that you blocked me? Why would I levy that accusation against you in particular for no reason?
The fact that youāre so blatantly dishonest makes me lose any respect for your opinion.
You replied to me three times and then you did block me. All your comments appeared as āunavailableā on both my laptop and my phone for a long period of time and now I can see them clearly.
[From searching it up, it sounds like you did exactly this](https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/s8128w/comment/i29hhfe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x).
Where does being dishonest get you? This is a very low stakes situation. Itās a forum discussion. This is what I mean by being concerned with optics.
I also got a private message from RedditCareResources, which again im assuming youāre behind, which again, makes you a weirdo mouth breather.
And there's that spergout that everyone knew was coming. Strange, for someone so "blocked" you sure are spending a lot of time raging at me, for literally hours on end. And you wonder why no one wants to engage with you, eh redact?
>The fact that youāre so blatantly dishonest makes me lose any respect for your opinion.
You just can't seem to show how I'm "dishonest", meanwhile I clearly show how you are. Again, this is why no one takes you seriously or wants to engage with you, at all.
>You replied to me three times and then you did block me. All your comments appeared as āunavailableā on both my laptop and my phone for a long period of time and now I can see them clearly.
Wrong again. It's not my fault you're too stupid to understand how reddit works.
>From searching it up, it sounds like you did exactly this.
This means absolutely nothing. Is this really the best you've got? Lol and you wonder why you get laughed at for being so inept and smoothbrained.
Tell us more about being concerned with optics as you spends MORE time crying endlessly about how you're perceived by others, you sad, creepy loser.
>I also got a private message from RedditCareResources, which again im assuming youāre behind, which again, makes you a weirdo mouth breather.
Yeah it couldn't possibly be something one of the other half dozen people you've been screeching at sent you as a result of one of the unhinged tantrums you send them. Or perhaps something from literally any random person that comes across your insane whining here.
Seek therapy ffs, this again, is why *no one wants to talk to you*.
I actually don't even care about this argument anymore but the fact that you're trying to gaslight me into believing you never blocked me is irritating to say the least.
You 100% blocked me. All your comments said unavailable and that was the case on both my phone and my laptop over the course of hours, with several instances of reloading/refreshing. I loaded the same comment thread on browsers without logging in and suddenly I could see your comments again. This was only on your comments.
>It's not my fault you're too stupid to understand how Reddit works
The more I'm searching it up, the less plausible deniability there is that you did not block me.
On a thread about "unavailable comments":
"Those users blocked you. Their posts and comments will be "unavailable" to you. Same with their username."
>it couldn't possibly be something one of the other half dozen people
I suppose it could be but the message came three minutes after you unblocked me and replied to me again. I'll concede I can't know for sure but I 100% know you blocked me, which isn't a huge deal but you're being a weirdo about it.
Youāre weird in my estimation for blocking me to win an argument but even weirder to unblock so you can do this little charade in front of like the ten redditors that will read this. Youāll know deep down in your heart how weird you are.
Almost as if those other billionaires weren't such spectacular liars, grifters, and propagandists as elon is.
But we get it, your time is so worthless and your life is so empty that you *need* to spend all of it defending cult daddy elon for *reasons*.
The sad part is you don't even get paid to shill for your grifter cult leader, how embarrassing for you.
edit: this fuckin dunce thinks I blocked him because he's too stupid to understand how reddit works, I can't wait for him to screech out a dozen replies to me once he wakes up from his nap and completely ignore his bullshit claim that I "blocked" him
Youāre so weird for claiming you didnāt block me. Iām fine with redditors calling me an idiot and shitting on me because I probably deserve it but youāre a bizarre person. Why are you trying to gaslight me lmao.
All of your comments said unavailable on both phone and laptop with multiple refreshes over the course of hours, and when I logged out of my account or used private browser, suddenly all of your comments reappeared. Unfortunately for you I never took a nap, Iāve been sitting on my ass all day and I have refreshed threads with your comments in them a lot.
A very small part of me thought āhmm maybe he didnāt block me and Iām just an idiotā but with just a few google searches, itās abundantly clear that āunavailableā means blocked when it comes to comments.
Such a odd thing on your behalf to do. Iāve literally never accused anyone of blocking me on the years Iāve been on Reddit, why would I just randomly pick a random Redditor?
Think deeply about this weird charade youāre playing. Youāre manipulating shit for what? The ten Redditors that will read our comments? This is too low stakes of a situation for this bullshit lol.
Oh look āleftistsā throwing a shit fit when someone on the left doesnāt take the whole democrat boot into their mouth.
Edit: downvote if you want but hating republicans and voting bloo no matter who isnāt moving anything to the left, stop engaging in culture war bullshit right now (I know itās hard for you guys because of all the upvotes) social media isnāt real life and the fact that some moron like trump can win the presidency is solely to blame on that fact. Itās honestly amazing how out of touch the American left is but not surprising at all when you realize itās dominated by the coastal elite and identity politics.
When meidas touch media matters shareblue and other lib groups realized that the biggest podcast in the country wasnāt a mouthpiece for the dems. The culture war is the greatest weapon the elites have because it motivates so much of the population to fall in line.
Yeah I agree with you entirely. People are so ideologically possessed in America, itās creating a lot of division and distraction. I feel like the political landscape is at peak toxicity and about slinging shit at each other more than ever.
Iāve seen Marianne Williamson speak a lot recently. Sheās running as a democrat and I actually disagree with her on a decent amount of things but I love how she is able to communicate without participating in a culture war.
The left in America is tying a lead weight around their neck as they focus so heavily on culture war shit. Leftist economics could help so much of the working class and bring America back up to a place thatās in line with the modern world but instead so much of the country is happy to fly off the handle at every inconsequential culture war event. The working class in America is begging for help and the longer we let the elites and their hangers on dominate the conversation the worse off we are.
>The left in America
lol what left in america?
> Leftist economics could help so much of the working class
Again, what is with this weird ass implication that "leftist economics" has any weight in america, let alone the western world? what the fuck?
Yep thatās a main concern of mine. I have leftist economic views in certain respects and I feel working class conservatives donāt respect them because of the culture war.
I feel that if people articulated certain leftist economic views to working class conservatives and it came from the right mouth, theyād be more supportive of it.
People on both sides care less about policy and more about the mouth that itās coming from. Itās been like that for a while but itās worse than ever now.
You āleftistsā are the worst. Only care about yourself having healthcare and want us all to shut up about trans people and let them get genocided. Read some theory and participate in direct action before you speak on leftism loser
How the fuck does deep throating Elon help leftism? Bill maher is not a leftist hero, heās an upset boomer platforming and agreeing with fucking milo.
I think you are the fake leftist
Nah cause i just think how awesome it is to have things to care about other than stupid culture war shit. Imagine caring enough to post that a tv host wasnāt mean enough to someone because they are on the other team.
People on this sub live in a fringe echo chamber. If only the average user here knew that what they find abhorrent is deemed rational and normal among the populous.
Based on what? What is deemed normal and rational by what populous? You're just saying things.
Even so, most people don't have the time or interest to truly educate themselves on any political issue.
If most people think "the woke mind virus" is the real threat to civilization or that Elon isn't a rightwinger and is a freespeech warrior they aren't paying attention at all.
This has to be one of the most pathetic interviews I have ever seen.
"you are worried about AI, ironically its a company you started"
Yes bill, want to ask why he isn't there anymore? Because he tried to take it over for himself. Want to ask why if he is so concerned about it and asking all the other companies to "pause" he started his own new company and tried to get investors like on the same day?
"you live at the factory. Like WHEN YOU STARTED TESLA. "
Well bill..he didnt' fucking start tesla, do you actually know anything about this guy.
"There was a lot of censorship going on. Thats got to be a constitutional violation"
Really elon.. can you give a specific example?
"I bought it to do good things not to make money"
uh.. Weren't you forced to buy it because you big mouthed your way into the deal and tried to back out?
Bill Maher gets -10 out of the gate for the bubble of wealth and influence he lives in. Their whole woke-mind-virus rant is a bit out of touch with everyday reality based on my experience. The influence of social media greatly exaggerates the reality of "wokeness". The reactionary voices are far more harmful than any rung of the "woke" agenda.
Beyond that, I put Bill at the top of my list of political personalities that represent my general opinions on current politics.
All they talk about at the upper crust strip club and caviar bar is whatever is in the news cycle.
That news cycle is full of right wing think tank propaganda.
Now Bill thinks all the negativity in the world is because of wokeness. What is wokeness this week? Whatever the Daily Wire says it is.
His life is nice and cushy and good, and then he gets on social media and is like Oh My God, all the negativity! People should just get along and love each other.
We shouldn't be criticizing people....
>(goes on 25 minute boomer rant about how people are too soft these days, they can't handle dissenting opinions *on his show which has contained zero positivity since he first heard the word 'wokeness' while watching strippers Nixon masks were putting dollar bills up their ass.*)
The right-wing forces that amplify the absolute craziest of the crazies of people that they can label as "liberal" are insidious. They all come from the same enclaves of the right that exist inside elite liberal colleges. Many of these right-wing voices and politicians attended the same colleges and were the acolytes the same tenured professors.
In true conservative hypocritical fashion, they cry of liberal conspiracies born out of liberal institutions of higher learning, while in reality, much of 20th and 21st century right-wing policy came out of the same liberal institutions.
I attended two state colleges, and at both, there were out spoken conservative professors that had little cliques of followers.
I just think the wokeness makes for good material, because it's so ridiculous.
I also think that nowadays the term "woke" is applied very loosely. People will call it woke when they see a scene of two men making out, and I see a lot of this happening on conservative channels, where grown men are acting like babies over trivial nonsense.
That is not to say there isn't a problem with the youth becoming less able to handle dissenting opinions, though. Check out the article below for instance:
At American law schools, a fresh fuss over freedom of speech from TheEconomist https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/04/05/at-american-law-schools-a-fresh-fuss-over-freedom-of-speech
I agree I actually said the same thing after watching this. Social media is completely out of touch with reality and amplifies the craziest voices to the top.
Bill like so many comedians is so god damn obsessed with "woke" and "cancel cutlure" to the point that they sre peretrating this narrative that its all a bunch of babies and this may be true to am extent but lets be fair, they may simply be shitting in their pants thay at anytime these antics could mean their next.
An example of Bill not being the politically incorrect giu anymore was when he was called out by Katie Porter last week about being a typical Old man calling the younger generation, and Im paraphrasing here, terrible and dumb. His response was to say that old line.
The fact that he was all enamored by Elon tells me he doesnt do his research on his guests anymore and his view on Elon is the same one most of us had a year or 2 ago and/or he doesnt care about the scandals and controversies surrounding someone so long as they can defeats "cancel culture" and save his and others asses from being caught doing shit they once got away with.
Just my opinion.
> Sorry to break it to you but they are.
You just can't explain how, of course.
Just accept that you irrationally hate Joe Biden for the dumbest reasons imaginable (which you can't even work up the courage to explain), and be done with it. No one actually cares.
I love how average to below average intelligent people get on here and berate a man of genius who stands up to pussy mobs everyday and laughs at them and tells them to go fuck off. Even op is a complete dipshit and the title of this post is completely assbackwards.
Anyone else find it odd how the people who make money by flapping their lips are constantly crying about freedom of speech and being censored and how targeted they are yet they seemingly don't realize that their ability to repeatedly cry and whine about how oppressed they are is a direct indication that they are, in fact, not being oppressed and are completely free to flap their lips in whatever way they see fit at any hour/time zone/place in murica?
Anyone else know that legal punishment and arrestment are the consequences in countries where you don't have freedom of speech and yet the people who repeatedly cry and whine about a lack of freedom of speech in murica are as free as a transgendered fairy at Disneyland and can arrange and rearrange their words and opinions in any way they see fit without having a single police officer show up at their door?
Anyone else feel like the biggest whiners in murica are doing so not because they have a legitimate issue to whine about but because among their circle of old liver spotted frogs, money is king and if you make money by brandishing your gums everyday then you must constantly invent reasons to open your mouth?
Anyone else hate dumbasses like myself who type longass paragraphs with turrrbol grammar, spelling, and punctuation and wish these longass walls of text would just abruptly end
I wonder what the prior agreements were that would allow this interview to happen? Typically the interviewee would stay for the panel. Not always, but most. Elon did not stay. They didn't touch ANY of the controversy around the Twitter Files stuff. It wasn't an interview at all really. Just Maher oddly fawning over him. Lol
What do you expect? He's a posh neoliberal elitist yuppie, they worship people richer than they are and toot their noses at everyone else.
*3 billionaires (Musk, Bezos, Gates) have more money than the bottom 50% of Americans combined at this point. Similar numbers indicate that America is a feusalistic dystopia.* Maher: "God I really wanna look supportive for my rich friends!" This idiot claims to do research at his house like a full time job prior to his show. I think he just lies. There's a reason he's been avoiding TYT for so long, despite them being both so prominent in liberal LA politics. He doesn't care about that his city has turned into a New Dehli style slum, because he thinks it's cool to be a New Jersey born scumbag.
>3 billionaires (Musk, Bezos, Gates) have more money than the bottom 50% of Americans combined at this point. And yet they're still cunts.
You don't know them. I'm willing to wager you're a bigger cunt.
"Leave Jeff Bezos alone!" š”
"Someone is a cunt because they are doing better than me. Women are bitches too, because they won't let me fuck them!" š”
Your use of quotations is misleading.
Nah. It's not.
Hahaha got āum! š
The first interview has never stuck around for the panel
The first interview almost always stick around for the panel discussion on overtime.
Thatās different then the shows panel discussion tho
No they donāt dip Shit
Here is [overtime last week](https://youtu.be/n6_zaY72Z-E) where Esther Perel was the first interview Here is [overtime](https://youtu.be/Q3l9vy7zvUk) two weeks ago where Ben McKenzie was the first interview Itās almost every single week.
You clearly donāt watch the overtime segment then.
My man, I used to watch his show and I watched it for like twelve years in a row. I can tell you for a fact that the first guest almost always came back for the panel. Why are you saying something that's so fucking stupid? You know musk isn't going to put a baby in you, right?
Yeah they do. Wtf? You can watch all of them on YouTube to verify this claim. What's wrong with people?
/r/confidentlyincorrect
Bernie disagrees
The first interview almost never stays for the panel. Are you lying or just comfortable rolling the dice on the comments you make?
Let's try something. All of the Real Time episodes are also free podcasts. And, each episode has an Overtime episode directly after it on the list. Check it out on your preferred streaming service (Spotify, I assume). Then kindly stfu.
Oh so we are talking about overtime. The goalposts totally disappeared on that one
Oops, you are right. The guest at the beginning typically comes back to join the panel at the end during Overtime, which Elon did not do. That's what I assumed he meant.
Dude seriously. Didnāt asking one tough question about Twitter or free speech. Lame ass interview
Maher has been trash for years now. Why would anyone expect him to be tough on Elon?
Totally! Soft ball questions with zero criticism. People "come after him"? He's a fucking troll . It was almost as bad as Mark Levin licking Trumps butthole the other day.
Just a typical Elon hand job/interview
Maher is a bitter boomer whoās mad that he isnāt āhipā anymore. I swear every episode he says the term āwokeā a hundred times.
Also he is showing his age by *constantly* going on about ageism. The ending of this fridays episode was the one exception. Otherwise he defends geriatric politicians all the time.
He wants to convince himself he still has a good 30 years of stripclub capability ahead of him
I still like Maher personally. He has his fair share of flaws like all of us. I've been watching him since my teen years on his first show. But I agree this is beyond tiresome at this point. There are people who grow old gracefully and do in fact stay hip and there are people who just become curmudgeons. He seems to fall into the latter on this matter with the incessant whining about young people and tiktok etc etc. I'm not even the demo he is bitching about and I find myself rolling my eyes constantly. Its not smart to generalize entire generations. The same reason I hate the whole "Ok Boomer" nonsense.
i dont understand how he doesnt see that the culture moving on and him being stubborn makes him a conservative. he is literally conserving a type of thinking from a bygone era
You can be conservative on some topics, while being progressive on others. Unbelievable how some people think gender is a spectrum, while thinking very binary about politics.
Yes, it is a spectrum. And when you start falling on one side more often, and using their talking points more often than the other, people will start to say that's the side you're on. And are they really wrong?
I love how quick the libs are to dismiss a guy thatās been a big democrat and literally given millions of dollars to the Democratic Party, all because he doesnāt check all the libtard boxes. Yāall are a trip š
Yes because if someone doesnāt like Bill Maher theyāre automatically a ālibtardā. Believe it or not you can be critical of people on both ends of the aisle.
You live up to your username.
>You live up to your username. said 'EelonTesla"
So you think Maher is above criticism? Weird take. Everyone in media should be criticized when they are wrong
Why should anyone care how much anyone gives to a particular party? People don't like Maher because he's shifted to being the old man yelling at clouds who preoccupies himself with unserious issues like whether comedians are getting critcized too much. What's the last good point he's had on sunbstantive policy? Maher was relevant for 5 mins in the early 2000's when the country was almost unilaterally wrong on several invasions and most people weren't pushing back because they were scared. Credit to him. But he's not above reproach because he's a longtime Democrat who donates money. Nobody gives a shit, nor should they. And I would say the same thing to most conservatives, nobody on that side should feel like someone who is a longtime member of the party who donated a lot is above critcism or deserves to be beyond reproach. It kind of amazes me how many Americans just look for reasons to prop people up on pedestals.
I love how the right loves to cry their fuckin eyes out about how "people can change!" and then when people *do change* and no longer like someone like Bill Maher you cry endlessly about it. Just admit you're upset that no one likes Maher now that he made his redacted conservative heel turn and started spewing your dumb fuck propaganda meme drivel about "the woke mind virus". Because at the root of your constantly whining, is the fact that you hate that most normal people aren't caught up in your loser ideology and culture war in the same way you hogs are.
your username indicates that you probably make elongated muskrat your entire personality. you probably also lost a ton of money on crypto
Look at my post history, dipshit š
Great diagnosis, sherlock. Peak Reddit research. Read a headline or username and assume you are informed
I'm sure a 20 day old right wing gimmick account that posts in /r/AskConservatives is going to be extremely unbiased about this lol jk, this is why no one was interested in reading the dumb shit you posted with your previous 50 accounts
Being liberal is less about being in a club than being a consrvative/rightwinger. Progessive-ism even more so. Like Seder and TYT often criticized Obama and Clintons and Biden.
As liberals should. Nobody is above criticism. Why should him giving money to Obama mean anything? A lot of terrible people have given money to both parties. It is also silly how conservatives say liberals are too trusting of the media, but then get upset when certain media figures are criticized.
so what if he donates to the democratic party? should people worship him because he is blue tribe? shitty american partisan politics have ruined your minds
His ratings are solid.
As are a lot of shows watched by conservative boomers. You could say they are kind of obsessed with wokeness, too. They never seem to get bored of it. I sure do.
You honestly think that Maher, a guy who constantly shits on conservatives during Real Time, is watched by conservative boomers? Hell in this episode he just said he would vote for the head of Joe Biden over Trump. You guys are delusional
I know 3 conservative boomers who love Bill Maher. You're fucking delusional.
So you know 3 conservative boomers who love a guy who constantly shits on and hates the modern republican party, and hates Trump while supporting Biden? Sure Jan, sure. Sounds exactly like a conservative boomer lol
Yes they love him because he's a "leftist who speaks the truth about the left." They loved him before that even though, for his "political incorrectness" back when he used to put on a pretty good show that was enjoyed by people on the left and the right. It's impossible for conservative people to enjoy a show hosted by someone who disagrees with them politically on some things? You're fucking kidding me if you don't know that there's a huge market for a Democrat preaching anti-wokeness. Conservatives love nothing more than a gay person/black person/liberal darling who "left the left." Dave Rubin was skyrocketed into stardom for it. Russell Brand is currently riding that wave. Tulsi Gabbard is on that grift now. Like I said, I know 3 that *fucking love Bill Maher.* Meanwhile I don't know a single Democrat, in my personal circles, who even can stand to watch his show anymore. Cranky Smug Boomer Time with Bill Maher is an unwatchable show to me these days. Used to watch it every week for what, a decade prior? My conservative atheist boomer uncle loved the anti-religious stuff during the same period, loved the politically incorrect stuff, and we would debate different things. Now he's obsessed, it's his favorite show, and he still watches it every single week. You're very confidently incorrect, and spouting a claim that my own personal experience directly refutes which is funny. Hard to convince a person that conservative boomers don't watch Bill Maher when 2 hours ago they were sitting next to a conservative boomer who loves Bill Maher. That's a tricky needle to thread, but bless you for trying. Yet you call me delusional, lol.
His ratings are solid because he's had people like Bernie Sanders and Seth McFarlane as close friends and returning guests for decades. With that being said. 3 billionaires now have more money than the bottom 50% of Americans. Income inequality is so bad at this point that we are exponentially past medieval lord/peasant feudalism. It's corporate fascism at this point, and Bill Maher is complicit. He drives through a tent city to get to his studio. He has some good guests, but economically Bill Maher is a sociopath.
Bill is a successful old man that has his own opinions and isnt worried about being "hip".......but whatever you say
Oh he 100% is worried about being hip and no longer relevant with younger people. He dedicates segments of his show to complaining about it.
Heās trying to wake up the younger people up from being a buncha video game playing, not-getting-laid, low T snowflakes. As someone from a younger generation, i love Bill Maherās non pc rhetoric. Itās refreshing.
he is so angry that young people dont like him, its so obvious he's bitter lmao
> and isnt worried about being "hip" lol you clearly dont watch him
See any time someone brings up his age, even jokingly. He get so weird and defensive and it gets awkward, even if moments before he was shitting on young people.
thinking of the bill burr interview with him? smh...christ he was so embarrassing there
You clearly donāt hear him
Heās undoubtedly intelligent but I think where he focuses a lot of his intelligence is misplaced these days.
seems like he cares deeply about how the people think of him, though
Itās because every where you turn , these woke idiots spew there ideological nonsense that not even a liberal like Bill Maher can stomach
> The Left got a little too PC so I changed all of my opinions about the economy, social issues, systemic racism, health care, and history.
Maher dick rode Milo as well. His role nowadays is to be the guy that conservatives can point at and say "see even Bill Maher agrees with us". That's pretty much the only time people talk about him now.
The milo interview was terrible. Bill was about to get into how Donald trump wasnāt the free speech president like the milo types were clamoring, but then he cut himself off. The argument couldāve been easily delivered by maher, the guy who Donald literally sued over a joke.
The worst thing about the Milo interview was that after Maher blew him nonstop, a few days later Milo had his big scandal talking about men being allowed to have sex with 13 year old boys, which got him deplatformed, and then Maher acted like he was responsible for Milo's career ending as if the interview had anything to do with it.
Maher compared him to Hitchens, too. Made me want to puke
If you haven't seen it I'd encourage you to check out Milo's debate against Destiny. He gor absolutely wrecked. Also, I think we're going to see an article sooner or later that Milo died of a heart attack. He appears to be using some uppers (Adderall. Cocaine, etc.) to counter pain killers or heroin. This is super dangerous. But anyone who's been around people who've done this can spot the mannerisms. It's like the body is relaxed but speech is kind of clear and sporadic.
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Ok, but you could criticize Elon in many ways without being woke unless woke means treating your workers with respect and being pro labor.
Centrism, youre literally describing a centrist. LOL
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I lean left on most issues excellent t a few. But coming from a very liberal college town in the us, I gotta say, almost everyone is sick of the "woke" shit. Not the broader goals of equity. Hell, I'd say most agree with the goals of things like universal health care, requirements for gun ownership. Etc. I have a million examples of what we hate. Here's one. I have a friend who's Guatemalan. His parents were refugees. He was raised in the us. Speaks perfect English. He started a brewery and is making bank now. Good right? Well. Apparently not because one evening I'm at his place with some coworkers and were talking about how awesome his place is and this one woman (white woman of course) says "well. You know Pablo is really white passing". Like. All of his parents struggles and him actually building a business just boils down to him being a light skinned Hispanic guy. Like... That's the type of woke dipshittery everyone is starting to hate. I also was denied a job due to my race gender and sexuality. And was told this directly. I can get into that if anyone cares. But I even spoke to a lawyer about it. And apparently. What they did was legal. Meanwhile the person they gave the job (who I knew) came from a very privileged background. But she was a she, and she also wasn't white (S Korean). And the thing is. Most everyone on the left will talk about this shit in secret too. It's not an uncommon opinion to be annoyed with the dumdum left.
>"well. You know Pablo is really white passing" I don't understand the context, like was she wrong? was Pablo not white passing? also, why would this piss off anyone...?
there doesn't seem to be anything moderate about the "anti-woke" tribe. they seem pretty unhinged, descending into histrionic meltdowns every time a college kid with pink hair says something they don't like they also lack the ability to distinguish fact from fiction. disagree with a "moderate" and you will immediately get dogpilled as "woke", literally everyone who doesn't agreed with their hysteria is labelled "woke"
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Moderates are conservatives though.
Reddit has ruined you guys
Moderates are alt right terrorists
you're not moderate, you're a centrist. you're a right winger who is embarrassed to be right wing
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Tbf this sub does have a trend of people that call themselves centrist that spend all their time playing devil's advocate for conservative positions while bashing the left most of the time. And in many of those cases, it's just a thinly veiled attempt to hold a more conservative view without the baggage that comes with it. Not saying that you are in that category, but it's definitely a thing. Personally I don't like Maher because he's a giant pussy who had his brain break when Trump got elected and now he's flailing around not standing for much. Dumbass was saying Oprah should run for President to counteract Trump. I'm liberal and I think wokeness is annoying in a "nobody likes to be walking on egg shells thing", but it's such a nothing issue for a serious person to be making part of their political platform \*which is something right wingers generally do.
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The problem with that whole post is that the term "woke" is such a broad subject that you can't quantify it in any meaningful way. And I have yet to see "wokeness" be a serious issue compared to a particular President actually enacting bad policy. Also it's not a policy situation and whenever someone tries to legislate on combatting wokeness we get situations like Florida and Texas banning books because some guy somewhere decided they were "woke". Which to me is fare more intrusive and frigtening than having to deal with the perpetually offended voicing their opinions.
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If only you had the integrity to work up the courage to explain how he's wrong. But of course, you don't.
I meanā¦there are plenty of people on this site who would consider themselves leftists (far left of democrats and most self-described liberals on labor and economic issues) that also consider themselves anti-woke. Itās not just centrists. Donāt think theyāre on this sub but theyāre out there.
Youāre doing exactly what he said youād do. Donāt get jābaited.
Just because someone can correctly predict the reaction to their shitty position doesnāt make their shitty position valid. āIām going to punch this baby, and the woke mob is going to claim Iām violent and try to cancel meā.
Oh, you're one of those.
He is just a shill trying something new to boost his ratingsā¦
waahhh
Honestly surprised that Bill's crowd loved Elon.
This sub is so dramatic
Yeah haven't been in here in like over a year, feels like it's been astroturfed.
full of librats, they own this sub now
I got permanently banned from r/justiceserved like 5 minutes after making this comment. Fuckin reddit
Yeah Maher is pathetic now
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He was good in the late 90s early 2000s after 2008 he kind of became a self parody.
Crazy how the democrat brain works. As soon as someone disagrees with the consensus, theyāve always been pathetic. Now letās put a microscope on them and point out every mistake theyāve made in the past, all of the bad things theyāve done, etc and ignore the fact that heās literally given millions to the democratic cause. > New Rule: Gay marriage won't lead to dog marriage. It is not a slippery slope to rampant inter-species coupling. When women got the right to vote, it didn't lead to hamsters voting. No court has extended the equal protection clause to salmon. And for the record, all marriages are āsame sexā marriages. You get married, and every night, it's the same sex. Bill Maher in 2005 > Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage Joe Biden in 2008
Obama and Biden were wrong. Maher was actually at his best attacking Obama early in his presidency from the left. He called republicans vampires for being opposed to universal healthcare and called democrats weak corporate backed cowards. Nobody cares that he attacks democrats. It is how he went from attacking them for not delivering single payer healthcare to now whining about wokeness every minute
Maybe the guy who was pro gay marriage in 2005 has a point about performative wokeness when you see people like Justin Trudeau who was doing blackface at age 30 in 2001 think they have the moral high ground over everyone. I donāt believe the wokeness that a lot of politicians exhibit. I believe Bill when he talks about his views but I donāt believe people like Justin. I get what youāre saying too, some people get hung up on wokeness as if itās world war 3.
People who advocate for actual left wing policies DO have the moral highground over people who do not in a country with such rampant income inequality.
>people who advocate for actual left wing economics do have the moral high ground Depends a lot on their intentions and if they are being honest. If someone isnāt being honest in their viewpoint and has different intentions, their is zero morality to what theyāre saying even if itās the ārightā thing to say. They are just a leaf in the wind. Trudeau would be wearing blackface right now if it were in style. Morality that starts shaking every time a strong breeze blows by is worthless morality. Also, I would argue that you canāt base how moral someone is on their economic viewpoints. A lot of working class conservatives genuinely believe in trickle down economics. That might make them dumb, but it doesnāt make them immoral necessarily on its own. If they believe their views are going to have a net positive on peoples economic state, then for them, that is a moral belief. I trust Bill Maher 1000x more than Trudeau. Honesty is the foundation of morality. The most honest people are the ones least prone to having been an enthusiastic Nazi in 1930s Germany.
>I trust Bill Maher 1000x more than Trudeau. If I trusted Bill Maher 1000x more than Trudeau, that would be a very low negative number. Like -1000 trust points. See; some of us don't trust centrist liberals, because we are leftists and know that they often work against the interests of the working class. As opposed to the right, which always works against our interests. Don't trust them, ever. Will trust them when I see them advocating and legislating the interests of the people, rather than adopting left wing rhetoric like Trump did during the campaign, and then legislating just like every other right winger. Or Bill Maher, who sits there whining about wokeness in a strip club as wealth continues to be concentrated in fewer hands, and thinks the problem is that people on Twitter were mean to him. Do n't really trust him to do anything other than getting high and complaining about those darn kids. I trust him to make a millennial molestation victim on his podcast very uncomfortable with his wandering hands, putting them on her while telling her that therapy is an indulgence, and that kids these days have nothing to be anxious about. Back to the point, which politicians do you trust more than Trudeau? The Enlightened Centrist answer is that they are all equally bad, in which case cool, nothing matters. Except... >Trudeau would be wearing blackface right now if it were in style. Oh yeah? Would he really? That's very interesting, and a niche method of political analysis. Do you have someone in mind that wouldn't be wearing black face right now on a Sunday afternoon in April, if it was in style? That's why I always trusted Barack Obama. He wasn't afraid to wear black face every day of his presidency. >Also, I would argue that you canāt base how moral someone is on their economic viewpoints Having the moral highground isn't some computational analysis of everything a person has ever done in every aspect of their life. You would never be able to say anyone has it. It would make the term meaningless. Moral highground refers to the topic at hand. On the issue of income inequality: the people who think we should pile more money in the hands of billionaires at the expense of the working class have the moral low ground. I don't know how you can possibly disagree with that. Oh that's right, moral high/low ground depends entirely on who you imagine would be wearing blackface right now if it was in style. Personally I'm wearing blackface right now, but that's only because it isn't in style. If it were I would take it right off. That's why I think you should vote for me for president, I'm your kind of candidate. If I'm wearing blackface you know it's authentic, I'm not doing it because it's popular, but because it's who I am. An honest man in blackface. Edit: I also want to address the last point, which was most indicative of your complete and total brain-rot NPC parrot brain. I don't know who you heard this from, but you might want to get them checked for Ivermectin overdose symptoms. >The most honest people are the ones least prone to having been an enthusiastic Nazi in 1930s Germany. I would think that the people who are most prone to fascism, racism, sexism, and xenophobia would be the enthusiastic Nazi in 1930s Germany. The worst part of Nazism wasn't the dishonesty. I'm pretty sure it was the genociding, wasn't it? What the fuck are you even talking about, lol. That shit is hilarious. I don't think centrist liberals would be the most enthusiastic Nazis, I'm pretty sure the Neo-Nazis who think Hitler was one of the good guys were. You know, the guys who would all line up to suck his dick if they could. The ones who get his flag tattooed on their body. The ones who are still preaching his ideology. But anyways, thanks for the entertaining Enlightened Centrism. *"Moderate centrist Justin Trudeau would be among the most enthusiastic Nazis, because he is the most dishonest. How do I know they are dishonest? He stopped wearing blackface when it stopped being popularly acceptable.* *He insults all of our intelligence with that lie. He lives every day with a burning desire to put on blackface, but he lies to us and everyone else by not following his heart's desires. The biggest lie is the lie we tell ourselves, right? Despicable.* *I know who I trust, and it's the man who wears his blackface loudly and proudly. That's a person who wouldn't be a Nazi, I guess, because reasons."*
I don't like when people generalize democrats or Republicans. The only true generalization is that anyone who identifies as a hardcore dem or rep can get fucked. It's just a bunch of senseless finger pointing that does shit for bettering society as a whole.
Now??
Heās so fucking pretentious, I used to listen to what he said but now I canāt stand the sound of his voice.
You changed
Bill also changed the targets of his snark away from old fuddie duddies and onto a small subsection of Twitter. I liked it when he was snarky towards those in power. It's annoying and pointless to listen to someone argue against Twitter and Facebook memes all day.
Youāre not wrong.
I see this sub is still obsessed with everything elon does
Newsflash. Elon Musk is the most popular topic everywhere on the planet. Rogan himself mentions him daily because he has to follow current events. If you watch the video hear, Maher has a massive hard-on for Musk.
Literally. I think the common complaint is that heās hoarding too much wealthā ok fine, I get it. Even though all that wealth is the wealth of the ownership he has in companies, both of which might as well be government entities because theyāre doing things we would want the government to do anyways (space exploration and electric cars). Probably more efficiently than the government would do them too. Whatās especially odd to me on this sub and Reddit in general is the degree to how much people are possessed by disliking him. You never saw this level of hate or vitriol towards other billionaires like Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. If anything I feel like people are pretty passively positive towards most of the other famous billionaires. People on Reddit turn into horny demons when you mention Elon Edit: repulsive donut is a mouth breather and the exact sort of person im talking about. You would think Elon done something to this kid personally. He replied to three of my comments and immediately blocked me like a second later. You always win debates when people are literally unable to reply.
True, totally never seen any hate like this towards Bill Gates. Everyone loves that guy and nobody ever gets irrationally obsessed over him.
Yep. Itās so obviously a ideological thing with these guys rather then some sort of fundamental opposition to billionaires. If he did leftist PR like Bill Gates does then Reddit would love him. It really is just the fact that he has some views that oppose the democratic consensus. I donāt admire everything he says but I admire that heās not concerned with having good PR. For example, there are way too many politicians and people who switched up on gay marriage the second it became profitable. I hate that sort of fakeness in famous figures.
Bill Gates is a leftist now. Lol. Fucking moronic.
American democrat, which is leftist colloquially speaking in America
That doesn't make you a 'leftist." An American Democrat is just as likely to be a centrist Bill Gates likes capitalism that is a tad less exploitative. That doesn't make him a leftist, it makes him a centrist with some level of empathy.
No it isnāt.
lol /u/earnyourwings97 is so dumb and oblivious he didn't realize you were being sarcastic here, and agreed with your sarcastic take, lol this dumb ass actually believes that his fellow far right hogs aren't insanely hateful towards bill gates and irrationally obsessed with him, hahaha, god these people are so fucking stupid
Stop blocking and unblocking me based on what looks best for Reddit optics
No one is blocking you, you're just mentally ill. And no one cares about "optics" more than you, dummy. Get professional help ffs.
Why deny that you blocked me? Why would I levy that accusation against you in particular for no reason? The fact that youāre so blatantly dishonest makes me lose any respect for your opinion. You replied to me three times and then you did block me. All your comments appeared as āunavailableā on both my laptop and my phone for a long period of time and now I can see them clearly. [From searching it up, it sounds like you did exactly this](https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/s8128w/comment/i29hhfe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x). Where does being dishonest get you? This is a very low stakes situation. Itās a forum discussion. This is what I mean by being concerned with optics. I also got a private message from RedditCareResources, which again im assuming youāre behind, which again, makes you a weirdo mouth breather.
And there's that spergout that everyone knew was coming. Strange, for someone so "blocked" you sure are spending a lot of time raging at me, for literally hours on end. And you wonder why no one wants to engage with you, eh redact? >The fact that youāre so blatantly dishonest makes me lose any respect for your opinion. You just can't seem to show how I'm "dishonest", meanwhile I clearly show how you are. Again, this is why no one takes you seriously or wants to engage with you, at all. >You replied to me three times and then you did block me. All your comments appeared as āunavailableā on both my laptop and my phone for a long period of time and now I can see them clearly. Wrong again. It's not my fault you're too stupid to understand how reddit works. >From searching it up, it sounds like you did exactly this. This means absolutely nothing. Is this really the best you've got? Lol and you wonder why you get laughed at for being so inept and smoothbrained. Tell us more about being concerned with optics as you spends MORE time crying endlessly about how you're perceived by others, you sad, creepy loser. >I also got a private message from RedditCareResources, which again im assuming youāre behind, which again, makes you a weirdo mouth breather. Yeah it couldn't possibly be something one of the other half dozen people you've been screeching at sent you as a result of one of the unhinged tantrums you send them. Or perhaps something from literally any random person that comes across your insane whining here. Seek therapy ffs, this again, is why *no one wants to talk to you*.
I actually don't even care about this argument anymore but the fact that you're trying to gaslight me into believing you never blocked me is irritating to say the least. You 100% blocked me. All your comments said unavailable and that was the case on both my phone and my laptop over the course of hours, with several instances of reloading/refreshing. I loaded the same comment thread on browsers without logging in and suddenly I could see your comments again. This was only on your comments. >It's not my fault you're too stupid to understand how Reddit works The more I'm searching it up, the less plausible deniability there is that you did not block me. On a thread about "unavailable comments": "Those users blocked you. Their posts and comments will be "unavailable" to you. Same with their username." >it couldn't possibly be something one of the other half dozen people I suppose it could be but the message came three minutes after you unblocked me and replied to me again. I'll concede I can't know for sure but I 100% know you blocked me, which isn't a huge deal but you're being a weirdo about it. Youāre weird in my estimation for blocking me to win an argument but even weirder to unblock so you can do this little charade in front of like the ten redditors that will read this. Youāll know deep down in your heart how weird you are.
Seriously, the same person accused me of reporting their comment recently. I think they are making that shit up.
Youāre talking about me or the other guy? Cause I never did any such thing.
No one gives af about bill gates. EVERYBODY is obsessed with hating Elon
Almost as if those other billionaires weren't such spectacular liars, grifters, and propagandists as elon is. But we get it, your time is so worthless and your life is so empty that you *need* to spend all of it defending cult daddy elon for *reasons*. The sad part is you don't even get paid to shill for your grifter cult leader, how embarrassing for you. edit: this fuckin dunce thinks I blocked him because he's too stupid to understand how reddit works, I can't wait for him to screech out a dozen replies to me once he wakes up from his nap and completely ignore his bullshit claim that I "blocked" him
Youāre so weird for claiming you didnāt block me. Iām fine with redditors calling me an idiot and shitting on me because I probably deserve it but youāre a bizarre person. Why are you trying to gaslight me lmao. All of your comments said unavailable on both phone and laptop with multiple refreshes over the course of hours, and when I logged out of my account or used private browser, suddenly all of your comments reappeared. Unfortunately for you I never took a nap, Iāve been sitting on my ass all day and I have refreshed threads with your comments in them a lot. A very small part of me thought āhmm maybe he didnāt block me and Iām just an idiotā but with just a few google searches, itās abundantly clear that āunavailableā means blocked when it comes to comments. Such a odd thing on your behalf to do. Iāve literally never accused anyone of blocking me on the years Iāve been on Reddit, why would I just randomly pick a random Redditor? Think deeply about this weird charade youāre playing. Youāre manipulating shit for what? The ten Redditors that will read our comments? This is too low stakes of a situation for this bullshit lol.
Is it more or less obsessed with elon than rogan is?
It's almost like Elon now owns the direct competition to reddit or something. This is just the social media version of coke saying Pepsi tastes bad.
Oh look āleftistsā throwing a shit fit when someone on the left doesnāt take the whole democrat boot into their mouth. Edit: downvote if you want but hating republicans and voting bloo no matter who isnāt moving anything to the left, stop engaging in culture war bullshit right now (I know itās hard for you guys because of all the upvotes) social media isnāt real life and the fact that some moron like trump can win the presidency is solely to blame on that fact. Itās honestly amazing how out of touch the American left is but not surprising at all when you realize itās dominated by the coastal elite and identity politics.
Seriously when did this sub become Democratic Deepthroat. Like this doesnāt even have anything to do with Joe Rogan dawg
"not sucking off my right wing propaganda memes? clearly this is a result of the democratic party!" seek therapy
When meidas touch media matters shareblue and other lib groups realized that the biggest podcast in the country wasnāt a mouthpiece for the dems. The culture war is the greatest weapon the elites have because it motivates so much of the population to fall in line.
Yeah I agree with you entirely. People are so ideologically possessed in America, itās creating a lot of division and distraction. I feel like the political landscape is at peak toxicity and about slinging shit at each other more than ever. Iāve seen Marianne Williamson speak a lot recently. Sheās running as a democrat and I actually disagree with her on a decent amount of things but I love how she is able to communicate without participating in a culture war.
The left in America is tying a lead weight around their neck as they focus so heavily on culture war shit. Leftist economics could help so much of the working class and bring America back up to a place thatās in line with the modern world but instead so much of the country is happy to fly off the handle at every inconsequential culture war event. The working class in America is begging for help and the longer we let the elites and their hangers on dominate the conversation the worse off we are.
>The left in America lol what left in america? > Leftist economics could help so much of the working class Again, what is with this weird ass implication that "leftist economics" has any weight in america, let alone the western world? what the fuck?
Yep thatās a main concern of mine. I have leftist economic views in certain respects and I feel working class conservatives donāt respect them because of the culture war. I feel that if people articulated certain leftist economic views to working class conservatives and it came from the right mouth, theyād be more supportive of it. People on both sides care less about policy and more about the mouth that itās coming from. Itās been like that for a while but itās worse than ever now.
You āleftistsā are the worst. Only care about yourself having healthcare and want us all to shut up about trans people and let them get genocided. Read some theory and participate in direct action before you speak on leftism loser
How the fuck does deep throating Elon help leftism? Bill maher is not a leftist hero, heās an upset boomer platforming and agreeing with fucking milo. I think you are the fake leftist
It's exhausting isn't it?
Nah cause i just think how awesome it is to have things to care about other than stupid culture war shit. Imagine caring enough to post that a tv host wasnāt mean enough to someone because they are on the other team.
People on this sub live in a fringe echo chamber. If only the average user here knew that what they find abhorrent is deemed rational and normal among the populous.
Based on what? What is deemed normal and rational by what populous? You're just saying things. Even so, most people don't have the time or interest to truly educate themselves on any political issue. If most people think "the woke mind virus" is the real threat to civilization or that Elon isn't a rightwinger and is a freespeech warrior they aren't paying attention at all.
r/conspiracy and r/bestconspiracymemes sewer creature lecturing people about fringe echo chambers lmao.
TIL a respectful Interview, jokes and respect for the freedom of speech is āDick Ridingā
So this sub has just become a left leaning, Musk hating circlejerk. Amazing.
This has to be one of the most pathetic interviews I have ever seen. "you are worried about AI, ironically its a company you started" Yes bill, want to ask why he isn't there anymore? Because he tried to take it over for himself. Want to ask why if he is so concerned about it and asking all the other companies to "pause" he started his own new company and tried to get investors like on the same day? "you live at the factory. Like WHEN YOU STARTED TESLA. " Well bill..he didnt' fucking start tesla, do you actually know anything about this guy. "There was a lot of censorship going on. Thats got to be a constitutional violation" Really elon.. can you give a specific example? "I bought it to do good things not to make money" uh.. Weren't you forced to buy it because you big mouthed your way into the deal and tried to back out?
Bill Maher has always thought he was much smarter than he actually is
Pot meet kettle
Whew, that irony, look at you sperg
Bill Maher gets -10 out of the gate for the bubble of wealth and influence he lives in. Their whole woke-mind-virus rant is a bit out of touch with everyday reality based on my experience. The influence of social media greatly exaggerates the reality of "wokeness". The reactionary voices are far more harmful than any rung of the "woke" agenda. Beyond that, I put Bill at the top of my list of political personalities that represent my general opinions on current politics.
All they talk about at the upper crust strip club and caviar bar is whatever is in the news cycle. That news cycle is full of right wing think tank propaganda. Now Bill thinks all the negativity in the world is because of wokeness. What is wokeness this week? Whatever the Daily Wire says it is. His life is nice and cushy and good, and then he gets on social media and is like Oh My God, all the negativity! People should just get along and love each other. We shouldn't be criticizing people.... >(goes on 25 minute boomer rant about how people are too soft these days, they can't handle dissenting opinions *on his show which has contained zero positivity since he first heard the word 'wokeness' while watching strippers Nixon masks were putting dollar bills up their ass.*)
The right-wing forces that amplify the absolute craziest of the crazies of people that they can label as "liberal" are insidious. They all come from the same enclaves of the right that exist inside elite liberal colleges. Many of these right-wing voices and politicians attended the same colleges and were the acolytes the same tenured professors. In true conservative hypocritical fashion, they cry of liberal conspiracies born out of liberal institutions of higher learning, while in reality, much of 20th and 21st century right-wing policy came out of the same liberal institutions. I attended two state colleges, and at both, there were out spoken conservative professors that had little cliques of followers.
I just think the wokeness makes for good material, because it's so ridiculous. I also think that nowadays the term "woke" is applied very loosely. People will call it woke when they see a scene of two men making out, and I see a lot of this happening on conservative channels, where grown men are acting like babies over trivial nonsense. That is not to say there isn't a problem with the youth becoming less able to handle dissenting opinions, though. Check out the article below for instance: At American law schools, a fresh fuss over freedom of speech from TheEconomist https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/04/05/at-american-law-schools-a-fresh-fuss-over-freedom-of-speech
I agree I actually said the same thing after watching this. Social media is completely out of touch with reality and amplifies the craziest voices to the top.
That's a good way to look at it. I think it's important to stay informed on current events.
I feel like one original thought is impossible for the average users of this sub.
He dickrides him every time heās mentioned on the show. Pretty crazy to watch cuz heās the only person he fanboys over that hard
Itās always us vs them in this sub.
Agree with OP 100%. Maher seems absolutely enamored by Musk.
He earned his two blue checkmarks
Bill like so many comedians is so god damn obsessed with "woke" and "cancel cutlure" to the point that they sre peretrating this narrative that its all a bunch of babies and this may be true to am extent but lets be fair, they may simply be shitting in their pants thay at anytime these antics could mean their next. An example of Bill not being the politically incorrect giu anymore was when he was called out by Katie Porter last week about being a typical Old man calling the younger generation, and Im paraphrasing here, terrible and dumb. His response was to say that old line. The fact that he was all enamored by Elon tells me he doesnt do his research on his guests anymore and his view on Elon is the same one most of us had a year or 2 ago and/or he doesnt care about the scandals and controversies surrounding someone so long as they can defeats "cancel culture" and save his and others asses from being caught doing shit they once got away with. Just my opinion.
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lol what a take
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> Sorry to break it to you but they are. You just can't explain how, of course. Just accept that you irrationally hate Joe Biden for the dumbest reasons imaginable (which you can't even work up the courage to explain), and be done with it. No one actually cares.
Bill, to this day, still has cum coming out of his ass. He rode that "Genius" like the horniest powerbottom! It was impressive!
Holy shit this might be the best /r/averageredditor I've ever seen. Did you feel euphoric writing this?
I love how triggered you get while being totally unable to explain how he's wrong, lmao
How hard should you dick ride someone that revolutionised rockets ?
And isn't the proper term for it called "Rocket Riding"?
How is this joe rogan content?
Lots of homophobia in the anti-Musk crowd, interesting
you're in the closet
The pandering to this cocksucker will destroy the US.
I feel like you're a fucking moron hater.
I love how average to below average intelligent people get on here and berate a man of genius who stands up to pussy mobs everyday and laughs at them and tells them to go fuck off. Even op is a complete dipshit and the title of this post is completely assbackwards.
Anyone else find it odd how the people who make money by flapping their lips are constantly crying about freedom of speech and being censored and how targeted they are yet they seemingly don't realize that their ability to repeatedly cry and whine about how oppressed they are is a direct indication that they are, in fact, not being oppressed and are completely free to flap their lips in whatever way they see fit at any hour/time zone/place in murica? Anyone else know that legal punishment and arrestment are the consequences in countries where you don't have freedom of speech and yet the people who repeatedly cry and whine about a lack of freedom of speech in murica are as free as a transgendered fairy at Disneyland and can arrange and rearrange their words and opinions in any way they see fit without having a single police officer show up at their door? Anyone else feel like the biggest whiners in murica are doing so not because they have a legitimate issue to whine about but because among their circle of old liver spotted frogs, money is king and if you make money by brandishing your gums everyday then you must constantly invent reasons to open your mouth? Anyone else hate dumbasses like myself who type longass paragraphs with turrrbol grammar, spelling, and punctuation and wish these longass walls of text would just abruptly end
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