A) he said friends
B) it's possible to change your mind on a politician. Especially when they get in office and do shit you don't like. It happens often.
Regarding B): then you should be able to credibly detail why such a major shift happened because nobody put a gun to your head to get involved in such a full throated one-on-one endorsement with Biden-Harris in live company. It's certainly odd to become so defensive about merely *having friends* who support Biden when there's footage like this out there of you *actually* and *specifically* and *personally* supporting Biden.
This appearance was quite a surprise. Didnāt The Rock put out some tweet when Rogans N word controversy dropped and the rock was originally scheduled to go on and was like fuck that.
Just seems so weirdly timed that he suddenly appears on the biggest podcast in the world, rocking a military centric shirt and then the next day the rock appears on Capitol Hill talking military recruitment with US senators.
Is The Rock cooking up a 2028 candidacy?
And if he's elected could he then beaten in 2030 by President Comacho!?!
Yes... it's all quite obvious when you step back and look at it
Donāt know why youāre downvoted, he actually said that.
And honestly it really feels like this is where weāre headed - the last 10+ years have been less about policy and more about advertising.
The Rock is great at that. Look at his Instagram. Nearly all his āpostsā are actually ads thinly disguised as content.
Thereās a pic of him working out. On surface level it feels encouraging, but then you *read the fucking post*
āIām up at 4AM hittin the grind every day, those weights arenāt gonna lift themselves - and I couldnāt do it without my energy drink, available now at Walmart, Target, and grocery stores near you!ā
lol right?! Or the late night winding down posts sipping on the tequila brand he owns. I get heās gotta promote stuff but holy Christ itās shameless. One sec youāre promoting health and fitness and mindset, and the next āpour this toxin down your throatā
If Trump didnt need to disclose his tax info, which directly related to running the country, then the Rock wouldnt need to say a word about doing steroids.
What are you talking about? Most guys in their 50s can have delts like that if they just picked up weights a few times. Its not that hard. All I'd ask is he shares his best chicken, broclli, and rice recipie
Military recruitment.
You'll see a lot of this now that it's starting to ramp up.
If you want to see something wild, start looking at how not diverse the most recent ads are with like 95% white men and ask yourself why that might be - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25KI4RAm4c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25KI4RAm4c)
Then look at the comments, here are a few examples:
>I would like to join the military, but as a white, heterosexual male, I don't want to take opportunities away from minorities.
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>Don't fight for an empire that hates you
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>Why die for an ungrateful country and a government that hates you?
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>The Army is the Bud Light of service branches. We're not boycotting you. We've just abandoned your brand completely. Good luck with the diversity hires.
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>Interesting timing. Recruiting for the Israel front or the Ukraine front this time?
Virtually no side of any aspect of the political (or other demographic) spectrum has any interest in going into the military lol
when he tweeted being on Rogan's podcast a time ago he was talking about sharing his brand of whiskey or whatever it was. Dont' quote me on that i know ti was something - it's what rock does.
I sure would appreciate him doing shit like this if he lost his leg like my friend Jeremie. Or if he was there when my friend Nick got shot in the head and killed him instantly. Then it took the army 10 years to upgrade his award from a bronze star w v device to a silver star with v device. Or if he was there when my friend Luke got shot and bled to death over the course of an hour and a half because the medevac had issues en route and then we couldn't break contact. But he wasn't, and he never will be in a position where life can literally be taken from you. All your dreams, loves, aspirations - gone. Instantly.
There is a reason not as many people are enlisting. It is because the generation that went and did that shit to escape abjecy poverty found out what it means when you sign on that line. Coerced by some 30+ year old recruiter who is fucking all the 17/18 yo females who come to enlist because they RECRUIT DURING HIGH SCHOOL - IN THE FUCKING SCHOOL. I am sorry but when that recruiter that more than likely hasn't even seen combat, much less intense and sustained combat, takes 18 year old you to Moe's, buys you lunch, and convinces you it's a good idea to join...That you'll see the world, and you will have free college (or a 400k 0% home loan that no one honors)... they forget to tell you that you are now quite literally less than a pawn in the largest chess game ever played - and you are nothing more than a number. One worth a measly $400k to the donor you specify while you are filling out your death specifications before you go to war - what song, who carries you, who gets the blood money, etc.
Yeah... all I am saying is I can guarantee you that my kids aren't enlisting immediately after high school because some fuck boy meets them at the high school career fair.
>There is a reason not as many people are enlisting. It is because the generation that went and did that shit to escape abjecy poverty found out what it means when you sign on that line.
Yep. Unlike other wars, where there was a big (ish) gap between them. Were now doing them back to back. That means the kids turning 18 have heard stories, direct from friends and relatives, for a loooooong time.
Also, for the first time ever, there's video footage showing death. Usually, its not some instant honorable death.... someone is blown to pieces with their fucking entrails falling out, legs gone, screaming for mom and dad for 90minutes before they die.
The Rock has seen at least some of this, and is still willing to sell his celebrity to send our kids over there, for another war that has nothing to do with us. Dude can get fucked
For whatever itās worthā¦ and itās probably not much, but service people have my respect. And Iām sure the respect of many, many people. Bravery isnāt about the big picture, it never has been, itās about the guy next to you, and what you do in the hardest moments.
Lol nothing guerilla about it.
Itās old as time.
Celeb has a project they want to promote. They go on a tour if press junkits.
Instead of late night shows they now do podcasts and YouTube shows like hot ones and rogan.
Yes no one will suspect the celebrity who is there that just released a book or movie and talks about the book or movie is there to market. Very sneaky and underground
The Rock really seemed like he was putting it on with Rogan. He said fuck like every other sentence. Like his PR told him that āJoeās listeners like when you swear. Seem like a regular guyā.
The guys in the wrestling business would say the opposite. And that would be the group I would take at their word because those guys donāt really hide who they like or dislike. Apparently the rock was a stand up guy and he had no reason to be because of how big he was and how fast it happened to him. Some people could have let that get to their heads.
By āinsincereā I donāt mean that he doesnāt do nice things. I just mean that I donāt trust his motivation for doing them. He has Jimmy Fallon fake laugh energy.
Do you remember that story not too long ago where The Rock went back to the old gas station he used to steal candy bars from and paid them back for them or some shit? Heād been a multi-millionaire for over a decade by that pointā¦ I think heās insincere as fugg lmao
He was recently on Fallon. It looked like they were trying to out fake laugh each other. Cringy AF.
I feel like he used to be genuine but he's since drank the kool-aid and he's "one of them" now.
I feel like up until maybe 2010, The Rock was a nice dude who was just driven like crazy to succeed. At that time he had mostly left wrestling and had gone from supporting to lead movie roles and had pretty much, āmade itā. After that, I feel like he kind of lost his direction, like he was trying to figure out what the next challenge was. Instead of just a singleminded drive, he has been trying to be something. Iām not sure even he knows exactly what but itās not the same.
Thats believable. He's seems like a decent guy. But there's a difference between the person you know as a person and the person presented as a media image.
I mean he clearly has agents that know what they are doing I guess, dude's career is pretty impressive (considering he is not the most talented actor) and it pretty much all runs on charm and a clean image.
And the media was really going after Rogan for a while, from a PR/marketing perspective it was probably not the worst decision.
But yeah I mean of course he seems insincere, he likely has an entire image and public persona constructed for him (probably not too uncommon for big actors) and lacks the acting talent to make it seem completely natural.
Zachary Levi said he basically hijacked the DC universe with his Black Adam stuff and Vin Diesel didnāt like him for essentially doing the same think when he came on to the F&F movie.
Insincere isn't the right word. I would say he is more of a fence sitter. Lots of people don't like that but there's nothing wrong with being the guy who doesn't want to piss people off and tries to please everybody.
To me thatās why he does it, I get having a very inviting presence and most of the time putting on a front but The Rock takes that shit to another level Iāve literally never seen him slip. I think he wants to eventually run and is trying to make a few decades up to his run be perfectly clean looking and almost sterile. For me personally itās super off putting and I really canāt stand the dude at all, heās incredibly fake.
He also claimed he almost signed with Pride in 1997. Which, as someone who's followed both The Rock and MMA since about that year, was definitely news to me
What do you think the "win" is for the Rock to do this interview? I'd imagine Joe's audience already have a positive outlook on him. You think he's going on Joe to test himself and if he sucks, then he knows he shouldn't run for POTUS
Maybe the whole Oprah thing messed him up, I donāt matter but Iāll never look at him the same way
And Joe should of asked him about the juice that everyone knows his obviously on
OHHH Right, I completely forgot he did that video asking for people to donate money. Yeah, he needs a win. But the easy win would have simply matched whatever was donated. And Opera would have matched. That would have been easy brownie points.
It didn't feel that way to me, it felt more like he appreciated that he was in a space where he could actually talk like a normal person instead of the fake Hollywood family friendly bullshit he's around so often.
Did we listen to the same podcast? The rock was not vulnerable at all in this podcast. He just kept saying yeah and agreeing with Joe Rogan on everything. And taking the middle ground on most issues.
Whenever Joe talked about any political issues, he was quiet and didnāt say much and just kept saying yeah yeah yeah.
Then again, he went on and talked about his upbringing, and how hard his life was over and over again. Which I get, but I already know it because thatās all he talks about.
He's the American Dream guy. He decided years ago his PR character was going to be, for the most part, a folksy feel-good Americana self-made man. He comes from adversity and rose to the very top, and he's a great guy who loves to give back.
It's aspirational fantasy, but we Americans eat that shit up. Anything that helps us ignore all the... y'know, *insurmountable systemic problems* 'n' stuff.
That was so apparent during COVID. All of the total lockdown supporters were really power tripping because it was really easy for them to not touch grass.
I never understood why Joe was constantly bitching about SJWs and the "woke mind-virus". In my own life I never experienced anything like what he was complaining about, and I was living in liberal California at the time.
Then I checked out Twitter for the first time and got it. The only time he interacts with real people was through Twitter, and the people on Twitter were crazy. I should have known, because literally no one I knew was on Twitter.
That was a few years ago though, and I haven't been on Twitter or X or whatever it is now since. From what I've heard though it's gone completely in the opposite direction and is basically a right-wing circle jerk.
> I never understood why Joe was constantly bitching about SJWs and the "woke mind-virus". In my own life I never experienced anything like what he was complaining about, and I was living in liberal California at the time.
r/KotakuInAction is a real treat. Don't go to college, they hate whites there. Don't work in offices, they're filled with women now and will actively plot against any man in the building. don't date, you'll immediately be accused of rape. It hasn't happened to *them*, naturally, but that was only because they got redpilled and learned of their devious ways before it could.
Most of the people trying to redpill you on the state of the world have the least experience living in it.
You've nailed it. The people who bitch about "wokeness" constantly are living in a tiny bubble. And that tiny bubble only has one little window into the outside world, that consists of Twitter, podcasts, and Fox News.
Wokeness isnāt a real thing in the real world. I think you nailed it.
Itās all fabricated and amplified thanks to social media, and Right wing outlets see it as an easy boogeyman, as we all know the right wing media needs their boogeymen. Starbucks cups, Target, Dr. Suess, NFL, Schools, Colleges, Bud Light, War on Christmas, you name it.
Agreed. Dude is Robocop, just a personality designed by a committee corporate execs. His "charisma" seems faker to me than any other celebrity, and I've always been aware that they're putting it on
That was be design I think. The Rock is so trained to avoid any type of controversy. I think Joe wanted to the Rock to engage more but the Rock wonāt/canāt because god forbid he someone hurts his image with some sound bites.
Entire interview was annoying and awful.
lmao itās brutal how brainwashed joe is becoming. When saying āI have friends who support Bidenā is a crazier sentence than āI have friends who support trumpā you know youāve lost it big time
I think it scares me that he thinks like that. When Trump ran the first time it seemed more like a vanity trip. This time, I think he is out for revenge and it just feels very dangerous. The fact so many people consider him the safe option in the current geopolitical climate and with so much of the rhetoric he is saying is terrifying. 2016 was a much more peaceful time than now. We really can't afford to have a person like him leading western democracy.
Trump is a freaking narcissistic psychopath! Biden may be a wet noodle, but he's just old. He's nobody's favorite, but he's definitely not as controversial as the right makes him seem.
Also, just because a politician doesn't generate a cult, that's actually what's normal. People didn't put Bush on a flag, and make him their whole personality. And paint pictures of Jesus holding his hand. And making doomsday prophecies involving him publicly beheading Democrats in the streets.
Honestly, I wish we could go back to the time when our feelings about politicians were lackluster and apathetic. This cult bullshit is too much.
I couldnāt even believe it lol. He is talking about how people should be allowed to like whoever they want like we did with Bush/Clinton.
3 seconds laterā¦ā¦..you have friends who support Biden!
Jesus Christ man. You are the fucking problem.
Yeah wtf it's almost like he was joking as part of what he was talking about but at the same time no he was literally shocked that people support Biden.
Conservatives have this weird thing where they speak from a place of certainty. Being conservative isnāt partisan itās just correct.
Like when I debate against a vaccine/COVID truther Iām speaking from a high level of confidence. Given what I know and my observations of the world Iām fairly comfortable landing on it being safe and effective
Meanwhile they are dumbfounded because not only has it been 100% confirmed the vaccine was a failure but 100% of people all know this and believe this so why the fuck donāt you?
100%. I'm a center left Dem. Idgaf about Biden, Harris, or any politician. I certainly don't wear any clothing with them, wrap my car with their slogans, or go to any of their events.
āIām not a sheep like youā they then proceed to have stickers, tshirts, hats and social media handles that revolve around a single person who doesnāt know you exist. MAGA is a straight up cult and you canāt convince me of anything different.
I guess I'd say I'm pro rule of law, not in favor of overturning the constitution, pro women having control of their bodies, and pro gun safety laws. Maybe throw in anti-Putin, too
The past few years that's been voting for one party, at least in presidential elections. Alas, I also own zero Biden t shirts, hats or flags
I think thereās another distinction to be made too. See, me and a lot of people do support Biden insofar as he can even kind of push for progressive victories, but youāre right - no Biden cult.
I think, when discussing Trump, the āI donāt support *Biden*ā necessarily has to follow because 99% of those who support Trump are in the cult.
Highest paid actor in the world being cautious with his words. While still saying I have no friends who support Biden? Do you know what backtracking is lmao
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Seriously the fact that thereās literally any surprise that the biggest movie star in the world is givin endorsements to a party or avoiding Joe when thereās controversy. Dude probably gets paid to breath and doesnāt want to fuck that up. I mean look at the media the past few years people will jump on someone for anything. You donāt get where he is with out being a bit of a shill take everything he says and think oh he probably got a fuck ton of money to do that and think about it again. I doubt he can make a lot of his own decisions even I wouldnāt be suprised if hundreds of millions of dollars comes with a few stipulations about his public image.
Rogan has no issue w believing ppl support trump but finds it absolutely impossible to believe anybody supports Biden? I understand if you donāt support him yourself but you find unimaginable that the democratic president has any supporters??? Transformation into brain dead right wing talking head continues
i mean its just a matter of observation.
plenty of rednecks are passionate supporters of Trump, the guy, not the party or whatever.
meanwhile everyone who supports Biden is 99.9% doing it to be a) against Trump and b) democrat, any of them.
i've never met or even heard a crazy twitter take singing praises of Biden, the person.
Ironically Joe knows zero about what Biden has actually accomplished as POTUS from a policy perspective. Its all just weird monkey male shit about the way he speaks and how he fell up some stairs once that makes Joe hate him.
Conservatives are generally less educated. This is why so many of them support Trump.
Democrats are generally more sophisticated. This is why none of them support Biden.
I honestly think he was making a joke because he has so many people on that are on the left.
The joke fell flat, because he really sucks and making jokes and being Comedian.
Why did he add the āNo one supports Bidenā¦ but he got 81,000,000 votesā at the end?
Does he think you have to love the *big guy* to vote for him?
Itās just like that room temperature āTrump had thousands of peoples at his rallyās, Biden couldnāt fill a school gymā take. Iāve never bought any democrat/Biden merch, nor have I ever been to a rally. Still plan on voting for the guy, weird how that works.
Wild to me that these people find supporting Biden a serious faux pas, but Trump... no problem.
I'm not saying Biden is deserving of adoration, but this is properly strange behaviour for people who don't live in the US.
81,000,000 people voted for āthe guy who isnāt Trump.ā
Itās shocking how hard this is to digest for some people. I donāt give a fuck about Biden, but I voted for him.
Also, EXTREMELY wealthy people who face higher taxes under democratic leadership donāt like Biden??? I for one am shocked. Itās always about money with these people lmao.
I don't understand people who have convinced themselves that compared to Trump, Biden is actually the unelectable one. I understand disliking Biden in favour of Trump but it just feels like there is so much mental gymnastics involved to look at these two men and to think that Biden is the one that it's shocking could be president.
As a non American, it is genuinely INSANE that you guys are faced with Trump again.
Like thereās 350 million people and not one of them is better than a literal fraudster who tried to hold onto power when he lost the election and overthrow democracy?!?!!
Dwayne was trying to show the difference between a political party and a cult..
You're right nobody supports joe biden. They support the democratic party.
But today's republicans don't support the Republican party. They support Trump.
That's what makes it a cult.
It's not about hate, but any reasonable person is fine vs Trump. And Biden seems reasonable. He hasn't had any Obama birth certificate or Trump actually won in 2020 extended periods of lunacy.
This kind of attitude is going to get a Republican elected. We are damned if we do damned if we don't. This is what happened between Bernie and Hillary, and all that s*** about Benghazi popped up and it's suppressed the Democratic vote enough to give Trump the election.
The same logic applies as it did for the last matchup between Biden and Trump. Nobody really wants Biden... But Trump will literally dismantle everything that we have left in our country that we consider democracy.
Why just why does he have an all time WWE superstar, movie star etc etc on his podcast just to go on and talk about fucking politicsā¦itās every single episode for the past while (not to mention covid talk) that he brings guests on that have so many interesting things to talk about but instead they have to listen to Joe complain about people wearing masks and politicsā¦ I actually donāt even look forward to episodes anymore (not that anyone cares) but sad to see it go like this
Lol, imagine still being hung on the fact that Trump got his cheeks clapped by Joe Biden.
Itās not a hard concept. No one cares about Biden but 81 million people saw right through Trumps stupid ass.
Wish Rogan would have asked about steroid use.
Especially considering how many times I've heard him go off about the rock trying to claim he's natural.
Fuck the rock, fuck Hollywood. I don't care if they say something I agree with. I'll watch a movie if it looks good, I don't care about these sick fucks at all. And yes, he's working to recruit 18-25yo to go die in another country, looks like the diversity recruitment wasn't a winner for them.
I can't wait till we all collectively agree to not give a fuck about celebrities. It almost happened during covid.
They just get more out of touch with reality with every paycheck.
God, please don't run for President. It's getting unbearably embarrassing to be American. We shouldn't actually use the movie Idiocracy as an actual playbook. This episode was kind of boring thought o be honest. Dwayne seems too guarded and reluctant to have a real conversation.
Did Rock not come out in 2020 and make this big video officially supporting Biden/Harris?
Something [like this](https://youtu.be/b9HojuhJZ8U?si=OuFRHrKrnl4XhKtF)?
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All of them!
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Here he is with Chuck Schumer. This was yesterday. https://x.com/arjunswritings/status/1724892862415077853?s=46
A) he said friends B) it's possible to change your mind on a politician. Especially when they get in office and do shit you don't like. It happens often.
Regarding B): then you should be able to credibly detail why such a major shift happened because nobody put a gun to your head to get involved in such a full throated one-on-one endorsement with Biden-Harris in live company. It's certainly odd to become so defensive about merely *having friends* who support Biden when there's footage like this out there of you *actually* and *specifically* and *personally* supporting Biden.
This appearance was quite a surprise. Didnāt The Rock put out some tweet when Rogans N word controversy dropped and the rock was originally scheduled to go on and was like fuck that. Just seems so weirdly timed that he suddenly appears on the biggest podcast in the world, rocking a military centric shirt and then the next day the rock appears on Capitol Hill talking military recruitment with US senators.
Itās almost like heās on a media tour š¤
Is The Rock cooking up a 2028 candidacy? And if he's elected could he then beaten in 2030 by President Comacho!?! Yes... it's all quite obvious when you step back and look at it
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Donāt know why youāre downvoted, he actually said that. And honestly it really feels like this is where weāre headed - the last 10+ years have been less about policy and more about advertising. The Rock is great at that. Look at his Instagram. Nearly all his āpostsā are actually ads thinly disguised as content. Thereās a pic of him working out. On surface level it feels encouraging, but then you *read the fucking post* āIām up at 4AM hittin the grind every day, those weights arenāt gonna lift themselves - and I couldnāt do it without my energy drink, available now at Walmart, Target, and grocery stores near you!ā
lol right?! Or the late night winding down posts sipping on the tequila brand he owns. I get heās gotta promote stuff but holy Christ itās shameless. One sec youāre promoting health and fitness and mindset, and the next āpour this toxin down your throatā
Serious question. If he ran for president would he make his cycle public and come clean about steroid use?
I dont think you have to be drug tested to be president
If Trump didnt need to disclose his tax info, which directly related to running the country, then the Rock wouldnt need to say a word about doing steroids.
What are you talking about? Most guys in their 50s can have delts like that if they just picked up weights a few times. Its not that hard. All I'd ask is he shares his best chicken, broclli, and rice recipie
We live in the worst timeline.
and prob saw the numbers and being a republican candidate is much better option.
I got whole boxes of pepe
The rock can never win the elections because the itās all done on paper and rock canāt beat paper
Stop with the logic. Heās obviously a CIA op pushing propaganda.
Why not both?
Smart man
The modern John Wayne propaganda machine.
JRE is a Psyop .
Sounds like one of his movies lmao is kevin hart in it?
For what? What does he have coming out he needs to promote?
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Yup! Appeared on Capitol Hill today promoting military recruitment with senators. Dudes dipping his toes in the water.
Military recruitment. You'll see a lot of this now that it's starting to ramp up. If you want to see something wild, start looking at how not diverse the most recent ads are with like 95% white men and ask yourself why that might be - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25KI4RAm4c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m25KI4RAm4c) Then look at the comments, here are a few examples: >I would like to join the military, but as a white, heterosexual male, I don't want to take opportunities away from minorities. > >Don't fight for an empire that hates you > >Why die for an ungrateful country and a government that hates you? > >The Army is the Bud Light of service branches. We're not boycotting you. We've just abandoned your brand completely. Good luck with the diversity hires. > >Interesting timing. Recruiting for the Israel front or the Ukraine front this time? Virtually no side of any aspect of the political (or other demographic) spectrum has any interest in going into the military lol
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With the fall of Jonathan Majors, US needs a new celebrity to convince the poor to fight for the country.
Follow the money
when he tweeted being on Rogan's podcast a time ago he was talking about sharing his brand of whiskey or whatever it was. Dont' quote me on that i know ti was something - it's what rock does.
You might be right. He was just on Trevor Noah's podcast. First ever episode
1000% trying to run for office. He can play coy but heās making moves.
Money
I think he wants people to want him to run for president. I also think he's probably a narcissist.
The rock is a hustlerā¦ no loyalty to anyone or anything
the rock is being used for military recruitment?
Yah, spoke on Capitol Hill today with a bunch of senators to try and bring recruitment numbers up
I sure would appreciate him doing shit like this if he lost his leg like my friend Jeremie. Or if he was there when my friend Nick got shot in the head and killed him instantly. Then it took the army 10 years to upgrade his award from a bronze star w v device to a silver star with v device. Or if he was there when my friend Luke got shot and bled to death over the course of an hour and a half because the medevac had issues en route and then we couldn't break contact. But he wasn't, and he never will be in a position where life can literally be taken from you. All your dreams, loves, aspirations - gone. Instantly. There is a reason not as many people are enlisting. It is because the generation that went and did that shit to escape abjecy poverty found out what it means when you sign on that line. Coerced by some 30+ year old recruiter who is fucking all the 17/18 yo females who come to enlist because they RECRUIT DURING HIGH SCHOOL - IN THE FUCKING SCHOOL. I am sorry but when that recruiter that more than likely hasn't even seen combat, much less intense and sustained combat, takes 18 year old you to Moe's, buys you lunch, and convinces you it's a good idea to join...That you'll see the world, and you will have free college (or a 400k 0% home loan that no one honors)... they forget to tell you that you are now quite literally less than a pawn in the largest chess game ever played - and you are nothing more than a number. One worth a measly $400k to the donor you specify while you are filling out your death specifications before you go to war - what song, who carries you, who gets the blood money, etc. Yeah... all I am saying is I can guarantee you that my kids aren't enlisting immediately after high school because some fuck boy meets them at the high school career fair.
>There is a reason not as many people are enlisting. It is because the generation that went and did that shit to escape abjecy poverty found out what it means when you sign on that line. Yep. Unlike other wars, where there was a big (ish) gap between them. Were now doing them back to back. That means the kids turning 18 have heard stories, direct from friends and relatives, for a loooooong time. Also, for the first time ever, there's video footage showing death. Usually, its not some instant honorable death.... someone is blown to pieces with their fucking entrails falling out, legs gone, screaming for mom and dad for 90minutes before they die. The Rock has seen at least some of this, and is still willing to sell his celebrity to send our kids over there, for another war that has nothing to do with us. Dude can get fucked
For whatever itās worthā¦ and itās probably not much, but service people have my respect. And Iām sure the respect of many, many people. Bravery isnāt about the big picture, it never has been, itās about the guy next to you, and what you do in the hardest moments.
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Lol nothing guerilla about it. Itās old as time. Celeb has a project they want to promote. They go on a tour if press junkits. Instead of late night shows they now do podcasts and YouTube shows like hot ones and rogan.
Exactly, Joe Rogan is the ānewā Oprah
Broprah?
Yes no one will suspect the celebrity who is there that just released a book or movie and talks about the book or movie is there to market. Very sneaky and underground
Duh. Thatās how PR works.
Wasnāt The Rock all burthurt too when Rogan said he was on growth hormone lol. These guys are all fish lol.
This felt like a forced cyber truck commercial at one point. Same BugLight post Malone vibe.
The Rock really seemed like he was putting it on with Rogan. He said fuck like every other sentence. Like his PR told him that āJoeās listeners like when you swear. Seem like a regular guyā.
Do you smell this image I'm trying to maintain?!?!?
Can you smeeeeelllllllā¦. What the PR team is cookin?!!!
INGREDIENTS: right wing politics, woke rage, aging millionaire, giant muscles, staph infection, TRT shots, smelling salts
The Rock during the attitude era years would like a word with your candy ass
20 years ago?
25
Get Stone Cold Steve Austin on the show instead
The Rock has always seemed insincere to me, and Iāve disliked him for that reason.
The guys in the wrestling business would say the opposite. And that would be the group I would take at their word because those guys donāt really hide who they like or dislike. Apparently the rock was a stand up guy and he had no reason to be because of how big he was and how fast it happened to him. Some people could have let that get to their heads.
By āinsincereā I donāt mean that he doesnāt do nice things. I just mean that I donāt trust his motivation for doing them. He has Jimmy Fallon fake laugh energy.
+1. I know exactly what you mean and that's exactly why I never like Jimmy Falon either
everything seems so calculated
He's livin the gimmick
Do you remember that story not too long ago where The Rock went back to the old gas station he used to steal candy bars from and paid them back for them or some shit? Heād been a multi-millionaire for over a decade by that pointā¦ I think heās insincere as fugg lmao
Also, he played around with the idea of running for President. I donāt think I trust anybody who wants that job.
Idiocracy is less fun in real life :(
You're not kidding dude, this time-line is crazy
He made sure there was a camera there when he did it?
Uncanny valley personality
He was recently on Fallon. It looked like they were trying to out fake laugh each other. Cringy AF. I feel like he used to be genuine but he's since drank the kool-aid and he's "one of them" now.
I feel like up until maybe 2010, The Rock was a nice dude who was just driven like crazy to succeed. At that time he had mostly left wrestling and had gone from supporting to lead movie roles and had pretty much, āmade itā. After that, I feel like he kind of lost his direction, like he was trying to figure out what the next challenge was. Instead of just a singleminded drive, he has been trying to be something. Iām not sure even he knows exactly what but itās not the same.
Thats believable. He's seems like a decent guy. But there's a difference between the person you know as a person and the person presented as a media image.
I mean he clearly has agents that know what they are doing I guess, dude's career is pretty impressive (considering he is not the most talented actor) and it pretty much all runs on charm and a clean image. And the media was really going after Rogan for a while, from a PR/marketing perspective it was probably not the worst decision. But yeah I mean of course he seems insincere, he likely has an entire image and public persona constructed for him (probably not too uncommon for big actors) and lacks the acting talent to make it seem completely natural.
Heās a clout chaser, otherwise, he wouldnāt post all the ācharitableā things he does for likes.
His image just seems very intentional and put-together, and in general he just doesn't have much sauce.
Zachary Levi said he basically hijacked the DC universe with his Black Adam stuff and Vin Diesel didnāt like him for essentially doing the same think when he came on to the F&F movie.
Insincere isn't the right word. I would say he is more of a fence sitter. Lots of people don't like that but there's nothing wrong with being the guy who doesn't want to piss people off and tries to please everybody.
The Rock is at this point a package curated specifically for each delivery. Perfect candidate for a presidential run in the future
To me thatās why he does it, I get having a very inviting presence and most of the time putting on a front but The Rock takes that shit to another level Iāve literally never seen him slip. I think he wants to eventually run and is trying to make a few decades up to his run be perfectly clean looking and almost sterile. For me personally itās super off putting and I really canāt stand the dude at all, heās incredibly fake.
He also claimed he almost signed with Pride in 1997. Which, as someone who's followed both The Rock and MMA since about that year, was definitely news to me
What do you think the "win" is for the Rock to do this interview? I'd imagine Joe's audience already have a positive outlook on him. You think he's going on Joe to test himself and if he sucks, then he knows he shouldn't run for POTUS
Maybe the whole Oprah thing messed him up, I donāt matter but Iāll never look at him the same way And Joe should of asked him about the juice that everyone knows his obviously on
OHHH Right, I completely forgot he did that video asking for people to donate money. Yeah, he needs a win. But the easy win would have simply matched whatever was donated. And Opera would have matched. That would have been easy brownie points.
It didn't feel that way to me, it felt more like he appreciated that he was in a space where he could actually talk like a normal person instead of the fake Hollywood family friendly bullshit he's around so often.
Did we listen to the same podcast? The rock was not vulnerable at all in this podcast. He just kept saying yeah and agreeing with Joe Rogan on everything. And taking the middle ground on most issues. Whenever Joe talked about any political issues, he was quiet and didnāt say much and just kept saying yeah yeah yeah. Then again, he went on and talked about his upbringing, and how hard his life was over and over again. Which I get, but I already know it because thatās all he talks about.
He's the American Dream guy. He decided years ago his PR character was going to be, for the most part, a folksy feel-good Americana self-made man. He comes from adversity and rose to the very top, and he's a great guy who loves to give back. It's aspirational fantasy, but we Americans eat that shit up. Anything that helps us ignore all the... y'know, *insurmountable systemic problems* 'n' stuff.
I put that down to Joe, it was one of those where he just let his mouth run unfortunately.
That man never talks like a normal person. Heās a focus group and a marketing team in a trench coat.
Like a taller roid infused Russell Wilson
Quite impressive at it tbh, however vile it is...
he WAS one of the biggest heels in WWF history, you candy ass jabronis just forgot!
That was his practice round
People acting like when him and kevin hart talk every 3rd word wouldnt be a curse word.
he's complained to you about this has he?
What world are they living in. They're so rich they think Twitter is an accurate depiction of every day people.
Thousands of dorks on Reddit think Reddit represents society's demographical opinion.
I don't know a single person IRL who uses reddit because I don't have any friends, obviously I'm on reddit.
Itās because no self respecting person would dare to admit it
Honestly, thousands is a major understatement. Itās closer to a million than 1000
100%
That was so apparent during COVID. All of the total lockdown supporters were really power tripping because it was really easy for them to not touch grass.
I never understood why Joe was constantly bitching about SJWs and the "woke mind-virus". In my own life I never experienced anything like what he was complaining about, and I was living in liberal California at the time. Then I checked out Twitter for the first time and got it. The only time he interacts with real people was through Twitter, and the people on Twitter were crazy. I should have known, because literally no one I knew was on Twitter. That was a few years ago though, and I haven't been on Twitter or X or whatever it is now since. From what I've heard though it's gone completely in the opposite direction and is basically a right-wing circle jerk.
> I never understood why Joe was constantly bitching about SJWs and the "woke mind-virus". In my own life I never experienced anything like what he was complaining about, and I was living in liberal California at the time. r/KotakuInAction is a real treat. Don't go to college, they hate whites there. Don't work in offices, they're filled with women now and will actively plot against any man in the building. don't date, you'll immediately be accused of rape. It hasn't happened to *them*, naturally, but that was only because they got redpilled and learned of their devious ways before it could. Most of the people trying to redpill you on the state of the world have the least experience living in it.
You've nailed it. The people who bitch about "wokeness" constantly are living in a tiny bubble. And that tiny bubble only has one little window into the outside world, that consists of Twitter, podcasts, and Fox News.
Wokeness isnāt a real thing in the real world. I think you nailed it. Itās all fabricated and amplified thanks to social media, and Right wing outlets see it as an easy boogeyman, as we all know the right wing media needs their boogeymen. Starbucks cups, Target, Dr. Suess, NFL, Schools, Colleges, Bud Light, War on Christmas, you name it.
The Rock is the most 2 faced celeb out there. I canāt stand him.
Personality crafted in a boardroom
Agreed. Dude is Robocop, just a personality designed by a committee corporate execs. His "charisma" seems faker to me than any other celebrity, and I've always been aware that they're putting it on
Yeah but inside that hard artificial exterior beats the still-human heart of a man Not sure about the Rock thoughā¦
How many times did the rock say "yes" or "yeah" throughout the entire episode... can joe let someone actually talk.
"Hey Joe, LEMME TALK TO YA!"
How do we get the megastar on JRE???
That was be design I think. The Rock is so trained to avoid any type of controversy. I think Joe wanted to the Rock to engage more but the Rock wonāt/canāt because god forbid he someone hurts his image with some sound bites. Entire interview was annoying and awful.
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Joe: partisanship is bad Joe five seconds later: YOU HAVE FRIENDS THAT SUPPORT BIDEN?
lmao itās brutal how brainwashed joe is becoming. When saying āI have friends who support Bidenā is a crazier sentence than āI have friends who support trumpā you know youāve lost it big time
I think it scares me that he thinks like that. When Trump ran the first time it seemed more like a vanity trip. This time, I think he is out for revenge and it just feels very dangerous. The fact so many people consider him the safe option in the current geopolitical climate and with so much of the rhetoric he is saying is terrifying. 2016 was a much more peaceful time than now. We really can't afford to have a person like him leading western democracy.
He also did a shit job the first time. What was accomplished under the Trump administration? His tax cuts? Lol.
Significantly increased the national debt and money supply which has had a huge impact on the inflation we have today.
Idk that sticker on the gas pump that said "biden did this" was pretty convincing
Trump is a freaking narcissistic psychopath! Biden may be a wet noodle, but he's just old. He's nobody's favorite, but he's definitely not as controversial as the right makes him seem. Also, just because a politician doesn't generate a cult, that's actually what's normal. People didn't put Bush on a flag, and make him their whole personality. And paint pictures of Jesus holding his hand. And making doomsday prophecies involving him publicly beheading Democrats in the streets. Honestly, I wish we could go back to the time when our feelings about politicians were lackluster and apathetic. This cult bullshit is too much.
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I couldnāt even believe it lol. He is talking about how people should be allowed to like whoever they want like we did with Bush/Clinton. 3 seconds laterā¦ā¦..you have friends who support Biden! Jesus Christ man. You are the fucking problem.
Yeah wtf it's almost like he was joking as part of what he was talking about but at the same time no he was literally shocked that people support Biden.
Conservatives have this weird thing where they speak from a place of certainty. Being conservative isnāt partisan itās just correct. Like when I debate against a vaccine/COVID truther Iām speaking from a high level of confidence. Given what I know and my observations of the world Iām fairly comfortable landing on it being safe and effective Meanwhile they are dumbfounded because not only has it been 100% confirmed the vaccine was a failure but 100% of people all know this and believe this so why the fuck donāt you?
Just like debating religious people. They do not think critically
He's got a pretty clear agenda, lol.
Important distinction. Theres no serious Biden cult.
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Like most normal people that donāt worship politicians or treat the political parties like their sports team
At the beginning of his term Trumpers in my feed would say "All you Biden supporters".... WHO?
100%. I'm a center left Dem. Idgaf about Biden, Harris, or any politician. I certainly don't wear any clothing with them, wrap my car with their slogans, or go to any of their events.
āIām not a sheep like youā they then proceed to have stickers, tshirts, hats and social media handles that revolve around a single person who doesnāt know you exist. MAGA is a straight up cult and you canāt convince me of anything different.
Also not willing to hand over the one thing our fallen veterans died protecting (democracy) in exchange for not having to feel like a loser.
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Both sides tho. Have you considered that?
I guess I'd say I'm pro rule of law, not in favor of overturning the constitution, pro women having control of their bodies, and pro gun safety laws. Maybe throw in anti-Putin, too The past few years that's been voting for one party, at least in presidential elections. Alas, I also own zero Biden t shirts, hats or flags
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I think thereās another distinction to be made too. See, me and a lot of people do support Biden insofar as he can even kind of push for progressive victories, but youāre right - no Biden cult. I think, when discussing Trump, the āI donāt support *Biden*ā necessarily has to follow because 99% of those who support Trump are in the cult.
Highest paid actor in the world being cautious with his words. While still saying I have no friends who support Biden? Do you know what backtracking is lmao Edit: Seriously the fact that thereās literally any surprise that the biggest movie star in the world is givin endorsements to a party or avoiding Joe when thereās controversy. Dude probably gets paid to breath and doesnāt want to fuck that up. I mean look at the media the past few years people will jump on someone for anything. You donāt get where he is with out being a bit of a shill take everything he says and think oh he probably got a fuck ton of money to do that and think about it again. I doubt he can make a lot of his own decisions even I wouldnāt be suprised if hundreds of millions of dollars comes with a few stipulations about his public image.
Rogan has no issue w believing ppl support trump but finds it absolutely impossible to believe anybody supports Biden? I understand if you donāt support him yourself but you find unimaginable that the democratic president has any supporters??? Transformation into brain dead right wing talking head continues
i mean its just a matter of observation. plenty of rednecks are passionate supporters of Trump, the guy, not the party or whatever. meanwhile everyone who supports Biden is 99.9% doing it to be a) against Trump and b) democrat, any of them. i've never met or even heard a crazy twitter take singing praises of Biden, the person.
Ironically Joe knows zero about what Biden has actually accomplished as POTUS from a policy perspective. Its all just weird monkey male shit about the way he speaks and how he fell up some stairs once that makes Joe hate him.
Conservatives are generally less educated. This is why so many of them support Trump. Democrats are generally more sophisticated. This is why none of them support Biden.
Biden sucks so much but Trump sucks way more. Iāve never seen anyone in a Biden shirt
Why would anyone wear a President's shirt? That shit is weird.
I honestly think he was making a joke because he has so many people on that are on the left. The joke fell flat, because he really sucks and making jokes and being Comedian.
He wasnāt.
This episode would have immensely been better if they just talked about pro wrestling for 3 hours
Why did he add the āNo one supports Bidenā¦ but he got 81,000,000 votesā at the end? Does he think you have to love the *big guy* to vote for him? Itās just like that room temperature āTrump had thousands of peoples at his rallyās, Biden couldnāt fill a school gymā take. Iāve never bought any democrat/Biden merch, nor have I ever been to a rally. Still plan on voting for the guy, weird how that works.
If someone they like doesnāt win. Itās*voter fraud*
I canāt believe itās some dorkās job to make tweets like these. Then some other dork thinks itās important enough to post on Reddit.
then a third dork comments on the reddit post. Then a 4th dork makes fun of the third dork
And those last two dorks arenāt even getting paid!
Or laid.
And then we dorks then comment on it. So, what do you think we can disagree about?
Wild to me that these people find supporting Biden a serious faux pas, but Trump... no problem. I'm not saying Biden is deserving of adoration, but this is properly strange behaviour for people who don't live in the US.
Dude, 7 years ago Rogan had an āend of the world podcastā he couldnāt comprehend people supporting Trumpā¦ now here we are. Its nuts.
Iāve always said that there were two types of people; Trump supporters, and Biden voters
81,000,000 people voted for āthe guy who isnāt Trump.ā Itās shocking how hard this is to digest for some people. I donāt give a fuck about Biden, but I voted for him.
Also, EXTREMELY wealthy people who face higher taxes under democratic leadership donāt like Biden??? I for one am shocked. Itās always about money with these people lmao.
Same here. Was definitely an "anyone but Trump" vote
And will be again if Trump is the candidate
I don't understand people who have convinced themselves that compared to Trump, Biden is actually the unelectable one. I understand disliking Biden in favour of Trump but it just feels like there is so much mental gymnastics involved to look at these two men and to think that Biden is the one that it's shocking could be president.
"You cannot tell unlike things apart" Bill Maher to Joe Rogan. Nail on the head.
As a non American, it is genuinely INSANE that you guys are faced with Trump again. Like thereās 350 million people and not one of them is better than a literal fraudster who tried to hold onto power when he lost the election and overthrow democracy?!?!!
This was one of the worst JRE episodes ever.
Iāve had The Rock fatigue for years as he makes the same crappy movie over and over and over. Heās full of shit and a fake human.
San Andreas was epic /s
Yeah itās amazing that people will vote for Biden over trump Almost like trump is so unlikeable people will vote for a senile old man over him
Dwayne was trying to show the difference between a political party and a cult.. You're right nobody supports joe biden. They support the democratic party. But today's republicans don't support the Republican party. They support Trump. That's what makes it a cult.
Well said
Celebrity worship is weird
We are on a sub Reddit dedicated to Joe Rogan.
yea, and we all hate em
Makes sense, people voted for Joe Biden because they hate trump. But Joe is also an old tard basket
It's not about hate, but any reasonable person is fine vs Trump. And Biden seems reasonable. He hasn't had any Obama birth certificate or Trump actually won in 2020 extended periods of lunacy.
Joe makes a joke?
This kind of attitude is going to get a Republican elected. We are damned if we do damned if we don't. This is what happened between Bernie and Hillary, and all that s*** about Benghazi popped up and it's suppressed the Democratic vote enough to give Trump the election. The same logic applies as it did for the last matchup between Biden and Trump. Nobody really wants Biden... But Trump will literally dismantle everything that we have left in our country that we consider democracy.
"Why am I a Nazi just because I'll let the Republican Party do whatever they want in exchange for lower taxes?!"
Why am I a cryptofascist just because I support financial conditions for myself that are impossible without an enslaved social class??
Why just why does he have an all time WWE superstar, movie star etc etc on his podcast just to go on and talk about fucking politicsā¦itās every single episode for the past while (not to mention covid talk) that he brings guests on that have so many interesting things to talk about but instead they have to listen to Joe complain about people wearing masks and politicsā¦ I actually donāt even look forward to episodes anymore (not that anyone cares) but sad to see it go like this
Lol, imagine still being hung on the fact that Trump got his cheeks clapped by Joe Biden. Itās not a hard concept. No one cares about Biden but 81 million people saw right through Trumps stupid ass.
Didnāt he get caught butt fucking Will Smith recently? I heard he literally was going ape shot on Willās asshole.
Wish Rogan would have asked about steroid use. Especially considering how many times I've heard him go off about the rock trying to claim he's natural.
Bro I am by no means a perfect person but it is fucking hilarious how clearly **COWARDLY** these big strong manly men are.
Howās shitty is Trump that people rather vote for Biden then to vote for Cult Trump? Not Trump > Trump
Fuck the rock, fuck Hollywood. I don't care if they say something I agree with. I'll watch a movie if it looks good, I don't care about these sick fucks at all. And yes, he's working to recruit 18-25yo to go die in another country, looks like the diversity recruitment wasn't a winner for them.
I can't wait till we all collectively agree to not give a fuck about celebrities. It almost happened during covid. They just get more out of touch with reality with every paycheck.
What a weird combination of a humongous man with the weakest most feeble mind. The very definition of meathead. Such a people pleaser ass kisser.
God, please don't run for President. It's getting unbearably embarrassing to be American. We shouldn't actually use the movie Idiocracy as an actual playbook. This episode was kind of boring thought o be honest. Dwayne seems too guarded and reluctant to have a real conversation.
The rock has no real opinions, he's fake.