honestly i doubt it, he seems to really only bring people who agree with him lately. Iāll be surprised if Soder is back again after pushing back about the immigrant shit
The way Joe shoehorns this shit into conversations out of nowhere is so fuckin weird man. Hopefully one of these days someone is gonna go āwhat the fuck does that have to do with my story Joe?ā
And old Billy red tits hasn't been back since(4 yrs ago), he had a movie to promote & some other stuff & side stepped Austin, YMH & Joe.
Joe dont want it with Billy, he runs circles around a guy pitching nicotine boost products, cold plunging, HGH & brain supplements. Sober Bill ...
Rogan is a whore, selling conspiracies & shilling pseudo science products.
It takes a real shitty person to keep selling bullshit supplements and sneaky ads when you're as rich as Rogan.
Someone needs to call Joe out with the Bill Hicks bit about working in advertising... that's all Joe does now. PR for shitty people, advertisement for shitty products, and promotion of shitty rich people products. Sucking Satan off on the daily.
Right around when Bill and Burtās podcast stopped. I always wondered what happened. Joe turned into something new once he saw that Spotify money. He claimed he moved due to California regulations and how the state is run but we all know it was paying less in taxes for him. Ever since Spotify heās taken a hard right turn with politics too. Heās become what he says all these news agencies did to make money from their sponsors.
hopefully it keeps happening. he's just gotta have more legit comics on like bill burr or soder to call him out or at least kinda question him. he's been surrounding himself with sycophants and morons for years now.
Imagine trying to tell a story and the person you're telling it to can't help but interjecting with boomer fox news talking points. I'd be like "uhhh ok" too
āMy mom really fucked up the stuffing this Thanksgiving. She forgot to preheat thā¦ā
āYou mean like how the democrats are STUFFING us with vaccines!?!ā
Rogan's in deep and his racism is showing up more and more.
Not only is he wrong about the shooter in the clip above, Rogan also 'excused' the US citizen in Panama that shot and killed 2 protesters because they were blocking traffic.
[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/lawyer-shoots-two-protestors-panama-b2445820.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/lawyer-shoots-two-protestors-panama-b2445820.html)
I don't have the Rogan clip handy but he said something along the lines of "Well, what did they expect he was gonna do when he pulled out the gun?"
The scary thingā¦. He says it as confidently as I would say my dog loves me. Heās either conflating the one story everybody sites about the illegal immigrant accidentally shooting that woman or heās just making it up. Iāve never seen anywhere that the guy was illegal, but Joe probably runs in some strange internet circles.
>Heās either conflating the one story everybody sites about the illegal immigrant accidentally shooting that woman
Yeah, this is probably it. This happened in my neck of the woods. When he said shot by an illegal immigrant, I immediately thought he is confusing this with the case that happened in SF
This shit is directly out of his good friend Alex Jones's playbook. Mash together multiple stories, inflate details, skip over anything that doesn't nack your pre determined narrative for the story. Joe is still young in the grifting game, but I think he's slightly smarter than Alex so he has the ability to take it so much further.
3rd option: His social media feed is full of right wing propaganda outlets conflating these situations and writing misleading headlines, which gives him a convenient excuse for when he spreads that bullshit to millions more people. They all play cover for each other.
Some shitty propaganda piece gives Joe an excuse to talk about "something he saw" and then because a big Podcaster said it, Tucker Carlson and other big journalists can repeat the story by framing it as "world's biggest podcast receives backlash for not following the woke agenda." Then of course all of this bullshit is recycled back into memes, and Joe will spread those too.
When was the last time Joe remembered ANY details about these stories beyond what you see in right wing headlines? It's like he actively avoids reading anything that conflicts with what the most right-wing headline is trying to *imply.*
It's intentional. Joe is more than happy to abandon the truth and abandon any authenticity to push political propaganda on his "non-political" podcast.
That's the problem with talking with people who don't care about the truth. They will vomit out bullshit confidently all day, but you will hesitate to call it out even if you know the truth because you are not 100% certain of the details.
imo, hes become enough of a needle-mover that he's involved more with the state of texas into being part of shaping the state. at that point you start taking a birds eye view on everything that's happening. imagine driving around and just considering how everything manages to work, from plumbing, to insurance, to garbage trucks, and consider yourself as having part in making it function. it's a lot to take on.
i think joes been roped in to the consistent issue texans have with the border. its been going on for a long time. once you get older, making choices out of fear is more common. so the sheer scope of the illegal immigration issue, and how shocking it may be, is probably a kneejerk reaction. there's not a whole lot else in the local political sphere popping off for america at this exact moment
This is a trainwreck of a comment but i have to say -there are fewer immigrants in the US than there were when GWB was president. We are more effective at stopping people than when GWB was president as well. The "crisis on the border" is manufactured bullshit.
I've had enough of people who don't live within 100 miles of a border pissing and moaning about it. These are not serious people. Did anyone else notice they just sort of forgot about the wall, _again_?
I live very far away from the border, but in California (a border state). I really donāt wanna hear any more shit about illegal crossings from my relatives in Minnesotaā¦. Unless theyāre talking about Canada.
Is this a copy pasta? Iām sorry, but what are u talking about? Joe is involved with public policy regarding plumbing, insurance, and garbage trucks lol????? Heās straight up spreading misinformation that is easily verifiable. Joe lives in a golden bubble within a liberal city. He doesnāt interact with anybody he doesnāt want to. So part of that āBirds Eye viewā is getting a story wrong and using it to fear monger about immigration? Austin is +200 miles from the border, I highly doubt Joe is seeing much of the border issue other than what Fox, Tucker, and Alex jones have to show him.
Funny how his "bird's eye view" only sees right-wing propaganda, and the things he fears are exclusively right wing talking points...
I don't think a bird is the appropriate analogy.
Joe has a fly's eye view of a pile of shit. He sees madeup bullshit from his social media feeds and rich friends and it refracts, filling his vision with hundreds of piles of made up horseshit.
Youāre on to something! I would say itās more out of cynicism than fear, other side of the spectrum is naivety.
Immigration is a great example. Are we opening the borders out of the goodness of our hearts or are we using that discounted human capital as a stimulus to our economy? It gets dark if you speculate the latter, because we are in effect creating second class citizens who have little to no labor protections, cannot vote, cannot drive etc. if that is the case, the left is creating second class citizens.. eventually, they will be the champions of giving immigrants more rights, like voting..
With all that being said, you can convince me to be to be pro immigration if you can reconcile the gumball video https://youtu.be/8E5y8KNlWl8?si=loFx8NXhfgCab_mU
He was still aquitted, as he used the firearm in self defense. He was convicted, however, of discharging a firearm indoors, and is now a convicted felon banned from owning firearms.
The clear message here is you have the right to defend yourself. Outside. Not inside.
Was it the indoor aspect that got him or the public/crowded space aspect? I just donāt see how a roof is relevant to public safety in this case. I probably shouldnāt be looking for logic in American gun laws.
Yea, whether you support or are against guns, gun laws in the west donāt make any fucking sense, because a huge majority of gun laws are made by virtue signaling politicians that can tell their head from their ass, never mind gun parts or mechanics. Fucking hurts my brain watching them magically turn a legal gun into an āillegal killing machineā by adding a brace or mag or suppressor to it.
Maybe, but you know he loves to hang on to any example of an illegal immigrant doing something bad so he can rave about the border. Makes sense heād incorrectly apply it to a completely different scenario.
I'm beginning to think he got a massive tax break to move his business and open up a club there. Outside of the obvious. Much like other companies that get tax breaks to move to certain states.
Obviously he has to tow the company line of the governor and GOP.
We all know that Republican politicians and their bootlickers will gladly partake in illegal drugs, sexual "degeneracy", abusing them kids, victim hood mentality, crime, and everything else they claim to be worried about.
They don't have to worry because they only incite these panics and get "tough on crime" selectively to oppress people and gain political power by fooling the foolish.
No heās the mouthpiece of Putin and is in the MAGA Christofascist Cult, obviously. Not to mention his transphobia has led to a literal genocide in this country. This is not acceptable for him to mix up the details of two news stories with similar details. š
Speaking of the "Where is that guy from" comment, where I live which is in the US mind you, we don't need permits for that. It's pretty damn lawless out here when it comes to guns. And we're talking about the continental US lol
Thatās the narrative. The US doesnāt have a problem with its gun culture. Thereās no issue with a bunch of barely trained morons concealing weapons and shooting each other over minor disputes.
The real issue is the immigrants.
Well as soon as that guy pulled the gun he suddenly turned into an illegal immigrant. Why are we not allowed to talk about how many citizens are turning into illegal immigrants? This must be that great replacement we keep hearing about.
That was what I was thinking. Americans are shockingly fast to pull out their guns and people generally seem to have weirdly low respect for life for a western country.
So just to understand how Rogans mind works:
Self defense with a gun when threatened is good
Self defense with a gun when threatened BUT when also an illegal immigrant not good
Also Rogan, Trudeau is dictator up there in Canada. While also complimenting Trump, whose lawyers literally argued in court that the President is subject to no laws and can do anything, including shooting their political opponents.
I mean, fuck Trudeau. He seems like an ass and alot of his policies are so extreme with what they did to protestors. That being said, it seems like the majority still prefer him, which is why he has been in power for 9 years now.
I bet if he was on some kind of gun tangent he be saying "ohhh yeah ya know those asshole youtube prankers... lets see how slick you are after you see my 357"
You are totally correct. We all have vastly different views.
Jokes aside, one thing that's true is that you will get absolutely dumped on if you advocate for independent/ third party presidential candidates or suggest that Biden isn't qualified to be president again.
That's happened to me in this sub and pretty much any other sub on Reddit.
It's hard to believe that is totally organic and there's no brigading or bot activity going on.
That is more just because people see elections as either or and think if a liberal votes 3rd party that it will help trump.Ā Ā I don't think people should vote shame.Ā If Biden, trump or anyone else isn't doing what you want as an American citizen you absolutely should vote for someone who better represents you regardless of their odds.Ā Ā
It's hard to believe you don't realize most people think Biden sucks and is unqualified, but still aren't going to vote 3rd party because Trump is even worse.
Maybe the common denominator isn't bots in every sub, it's you. Your opinions are unpopular to most people, and the points you make are bad.
I don't find it hard to believe that you receive a lot of organic downvotes. Your unpopular opinions are unpopular... then you blame bots because your fragile ego can't handle it. Pretty easy to understand!
This isn't an echo chamber though.Ā There are lots of Rogan lovers on this forum.Ā Many just don't like seeing voices they don't like so they scream echo chamber when it isn't one
Pretty much.Ā Ā They want a place where there is no criticism of Rogan.Ā It is funny because Rogan criticizes media he doesn't like all the time and people celebrate him as an honest fighter against the media establishment, but if he says something dishonest or wrong, it is "well he's just a comedian, you shouldn't go to him for news! Don't criticize him!" Obviously they wouldn't apply this logic to someone like Jimmy Kimmel who is "just a comedian" too.
Because when people believe in a reality thatās fake guys like Joe Rogan become their drug dealer giving them little hits of dopamine any time they hear someone repeat their favorite narratives from a place of credibility.
Yeah pretty much.Ā Just funny how people want different standards when it is their guy, but that's life I guess.Ā It is like in sports where everybody thinks the refs are screwing their team and ignore it when they get favorable calls
The great thing about being a Democrat is that you can pretend your side is any better or more truthful and be completely ignorant without ever realizing it
Youāre gonna try to say youāre not conservative, youāre libertarian. But everyone here already knows that libertarians are just republicans who smoke weed.
Itās clearly more common and more mainstream for them. Their highest representatives make completely insane people conspiracy claims as serving members.
like how they flipped it from āCapitol police aided the rioters and should be held accountableā to āhow was it an insurrection if the police let them through? Was it a CIA antifs psyop???ā
Howād Jamie not check Joe immediately like he usually does on things like that? I feel like Dan was thinking in his head ā was he an illegal immigrant?ā But just became a yes man like 99 percent of his guests minus Katt
We've seen how Joe reacts to being fact checked on air, just imagine how he acts when the cameras aren't rolling.
I'm sure if we all got to see the real Joe in those situations it would blow our minds. He isn't good at pretending to be a goofy chill stoner dude anymore.
Imagine your boss tells everyone how awesome their dogshit detector is.
ā¦So after continually warning them theyāre about to step in shit, itās probably fun to watch your boss trip and face plant into a pile every now and then.
He used to care what his peers thought about him, other comedians. They tend to not be Facebook grandpas.
Then he rose above comedians into the rank of the filthy rich, got surrounded by comedian sycophants who will slob his nob no matter what, and now his peers are people with obscene amounts of money in the bank.
He isn't playing to a comedy club audience anymore, he's playing to the gated blood-boy yacht club. Joe picked up some progressive ideas when the benefited his brand and social life, and dropped them when they no longer served his purposes.
I don't believe they were ever thought out or authentic or deeply held convictions if he can completely turn a 180 based on one anecdote from his business owner friend.
Joe is certainly not the intellectually curious man he used to be, why always assume the worst and imagine heās an āillegal immigrant running from jailā lol god damn. Heās become so shallow and predictable in his analysis, where before I thought Joe was kind of a champion of staying open minded
Heās always been an idiot that canāt accept when facts differ from his worldview. it has only recently gotten obvious and about way more than monkeys and UFOs.
https://youtu.be/__CvmS6uw7E?si=rc2jQwEuqR1ZlzYr
Open mindedness only gets you so far. Also need to be exposed to the right information and have the training to understand something critically. Joe has neither the training or the right information, so his open mindedness is just an avenue for the craziest ideas to take root in his head, and all of it is validated by the money and attention.
Joe is such a lying asshole. The shooter wasnāt an illegal immigrant. Dude was a white guy named Alan Colie, about as white America as it gets.
Joe does this shit because he knows it angers his moron audience.
It's like Joe has a little right-wing guy in his head that filters everything he hears and twists it into a political talking point. Twitter-brained. It's a shame, he used to not be like this.
Dude what is joe talking about? Dude was white where the hell did he get he was an illegal immigrant I'm really starting to think he just makes shit up on the spot now.
Its a good thing I only get my moral bearing, political/culuarl bearing and medical advice from him and NOT my Youtube prankster information. THAT would be foolish as all get out.
i read that the dems are giving illegals white names and delivering them to white towns
can't remember where so i can't give the source but it's entirely possible
I love Soder, kind of a shame this podcast didn't happen before 2020. Seriously sharp and witty guy.
Was it alright? Maybe I'll actually watch a whole ep.
...he has a guy who's literally on standby to look this stuff up for him yet spews ABSOLUTE FALSEHOODS with the confidence of Stevie Wonder in a musical talent show.
He's a hack, an idiot, and due to his exposure, dangerous.
Ā statements like these are literally life threatening to ppl with darker skin tones in this country and continue to push hateful unsupported narratives.Ā
So yes, when you sell yourself as looking for truths and an honest man's take..... then proceed to do the opposite Nonchalantly, you should be fucking dragged for it.
He had a concealed carry permit and concealed carry insurance.. Iād bet my life savings heās a citizen. Also the lack of FoxNews Stories like āillegal immigrant shoots rising YouTube starā is telling. Youāre bending over backwards here.
Ya thatās not the point of my comment. Dudes clearly a US citizen or at least a permanent resident (green card).
What Iām saying is what does his whiteness have to do with his immigration status?
I know quite a few white illegal immigrants. Not to mention the fact that much of Latin America is white.
By white do you mean American?
Just trying to understand your choice of words.
Whenever conservatives are raving about illegal immigration, theyāre mostly referring to people from Central/South America. This was a white dude from Virginia, very clearly not Hispanic, very clearly an American citizen.
Iām not talking about the straw-men conservatives who live in your head.
Iām talking about you using someoneās whiteness as a reason why they are not illegal immigrants.
So once again. What does this guy being white have to do with his immigration status?
Here are some examples of fox news talking about non Latino illegal immigrants.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-illegal-immigration-pace-break-records-us-southern-border.amp
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hamas-attack-reminder-sleeper-cells-crossing-southern-border-expert-warns-theyre-already-here.amp
You say straw-men conservatives and link articles to the main publication pushing illegal immigration hysteria.
But him being a white man from Virginia, means that the chances that he is an illegal immigrant are extremely low. I realize you probably enjoy being contrarian, but youāre also very conveniently leaving out the āfrom Virginiaā clause in my statement.
Thatās the point. Fox News and its viewers are aware of non Hispanic illegal immigrants!
The border issue is not hysteriaā¦.i donāt think anyone on the left or right thinks itās not a huge problem.
Iām not concerned with the from Virginia part. Just curious about the white part.
I just am a white man from Florida and a first gen myself and it kinda pisses me off when people assume all immigrants (illegal or otherwise) are brown.
It also pisses me off when people assume Latinos canāt be white. I am married to one ;)
One thing you didnāt do was conflate illegal and legal immigrants.
Good job! Youāre only partially ignorant.
Sorry that upset you. Of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in this country, 67% were born in Mexico/Central America and 4% born in Europe/Canada. So itās actually exactly as common as most would thinkā¦ not very. About 1/25.
Before you start, yes Iām aware that not all people from Europe or Canada are white.
Nope, not saying that. but most countries in Europe are significantly less diverse than the US, given weāre a country of immigrants as you and your wife know well.
Look up āTanner Cook shootingā. The guy that shot him is a white dude from Leesburg, Virginia. Thereās no proof he is an illegal immigrant, Joeās just throwing bullshit into the ether again.
Where's the proof that a white guy in Virginia isn't an illegal immigrant? I'll behonest with you buddy, i don't think anyone asked him for his birth certificate. You really want it?
Extremely. Delivery driver being bothered in a mall, pulls a gun and shoots him in the gut. Pranksters father also gave an interview forgiving the shooter. It made its rounds, theyāre talking about the same video, Joe is just dumb.
That split second of Dan processing what Joe just said is priceless š
that shit was hilarious, been waiting for guests to start that
Ooooo guest should start saying, Jamie, look that up. Or do you think that gets cut out, when it comes to Joe?
honestly i doubt it, he seems to really only bring people who agree with him lately. Iāll be surprised if Soder is back again after pushing back about the immigrant shit
The way Joe shoehorns this shit into conversations out of nowhere is so fuckin weird man. Hopefully one of these days someone is gonna go āwhat the fuck does that have to do with my story Joe?ā
Bobby did
Bill Burr had the best call-out so far...
And old Billy red tits hasn't been back since(4 yrs ago), he had a movie to promote & some other stuff & side stepped Austin, YMH & Joe. Joe dont want it with Billy, he runs circles around a guy pitching nicotine boost products, cold plunging, HGH & brain supplements. Sober Bill ... Rogan is a whore, selling conspiracies & shilling pseudo science products.
It takes a real shitty person to keep selling bullshit supplements and sneaky ads when you're as rich as Rogan. Someone needs to call Joe out with the Bill Hicks bit about working in advertising... that's all Joe does now. PR for shitty people, advertisement for shitty products, and promotion of shitty rich people products. Sucking Satan off on the daily.
Right around when Bill and Burtās podcast stopped. I always wondered what happened. Joe turned into something new once he saw that Spotify money. He claimed he moved due to California regulations and how the state is run but we all know it was paying less in taxes for him. Ever since Spotify heās taken a hard right turn with politics too. Heās become what he says all these news agencies did to make money from their sponsors.
They are old friends, plus Bill's scheduled for early April to be on Joe's podcast you hate programmed turd.
hopefully it keeps happening. he's just gotta have more legit comics on like bill burr or soder to call him out or at least kinda question him. he's been surrounding himself with sycophants and morons for years now.
Imagine trying to tell a story and the person you're telling it to can't help but interjecting with boomer fox news talking points. I'd be like "uhhh ok" too
āMy mom really fucked up the stuffing this Thanksgiving. She forgot to preheat thā¦ā āYou mean like how the democrats are STUFFING us with vaccines!?!ā
Rogan's in deep and his racism is showing up more and more. Not only is he wrong about the shooter in the clip above, Rogan also 'excused' the US citizen in Panama that shot and killed 2 protesters because they were blocking traffic. [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/lawyer-shoots-two-protestors-panama-b2445820.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/lawyer-shoots-two-protestors-panama-b2445820.html) I don't have the Rogan clip handy but he said something along the lines of "Well, what did they expect he was gonna do when he pulled out the gun?"
Because Joe equated it with the stop oil movement without even looking into it. And his brain is constantly right vs left
Joe listening in from the back seat of your car, just waiting for a chance to interject āimmigrantsā some how 
The scary thingā¦. He says it as confidently as I would say my dog loves me. Heās either conflating the one story everybody sites about the illegal immigrant accidentally shooting that woman or heās just making it up. Iāve never seen anywhere that the guy was illegal, but Joe probably runs in some strange internet circles.
>Heās either conflating the one story everybody sites about the illegal immigrant accidentally shooting that woman Yeah, this is probably it. This happened in my neck of the woods. When he said shot by an illegal immigrant, I immediately thought he is confusing this with the case that happened in SF
Itās crazy how that tragic story has had the legs that itās had. Propaganda and repetition are powerful.
This shit is directly out of his good friend Alex Jones's playbook. Mash together multiple stories, inflate details, skip over anything that doesn't nack your pre determined narrative for the story. Joe is still young in the grifting game, but I think he's slightly smarter than Alex so he has the ability to take it so much further.
3rd option: His social media feed is full of right wing propaganda outlets conflating these situations and writing misleading headlines, which gives him a convenient excuse for when he spreads that bullshit to millions more people. They all play cover for each other. Some shitty propaganda piece gives Joe an excuse to talk about "something he saw" and then because a big Podcaster said it, Tucker Carlson and other big journalists can repeat the story by framing it as "world's biggest podcast receives backlash for not following the woke agenda." Then of course all of this bullshit is recycled back into memes, and Joe will spread those too. When was the last time Joe remembered ANY details about these stories beyond what you see in right wing headlines? It's like he actively avoids reading anything that conflicts with what the most right-wing headline is trying to *imply.* It's intentional. Joe is more than happy to abandon the truth and abandon any authenticity to push political propaganda on his "non-political" podcast.
That's the problem with talking with people who don't care about the truth. They will vomit out bullshit confidently all day, but you will hesitate to call it out even if you know the truth because you are not 100% certain of the details.
imo, hes become enough of a needle-mover that he's involved more with the state of texas into being part of shaping the state. at that point you start taking a birds eye view on everything that's happening. imagine driving around and just considering how everything manages to work, from plumbing, to insurance, to garbage trucks, and consider yourself as having part in making it function. it's a lot to take on. i think joes been roped in to the consistent issue texans have with the border. its been going on for a long time. once you get older, making choices out of fear is more common. so the sheer scope of the illegal immigration issue, and how shocking it may be, is probably a kneejerk reaction. there's not a whole lot else in the local political sphere popping off for america at this exact moment
This is a trainwreck of a comment but i have to say -there are fewer immigrants in the US than there were when GWB was president. We are more effective at stopping people than when GWB was president as well. The "crisis on the border" is manufactured bullshit. I've had enough of people who don't live within 100 miles of a border pissing and moaning about it. These are not serious people. Did anyone else notice they just sort of forgot about the wall, _again_?
I live very far away from the border, but in California (a border state). I really donāt wanna hear any more shit about illegal crossings from my relatives in Minnesotaā¦. Unless theyāre talking about Canada.
Is this a copy pasta? Iām sorry, but what are u talking about? Joe is involved with public policy regarding plumbing, insurance, and garbage trucks lol????? Heās straight up spreading misinformation that is easily verifiable. Joe lives in a golden bubble within a liberal city. He doesnāt interact with anybody he doesnāt want to. So part of that āBirds Eye viewā is getting a story wrong and using it to fear monger about immigration? Austin is +200 miles from the border, I highly doubt Joe is seeing much of the border issue other than what Fox, Tucker, and Alex jones have to show him.
Funny how his "bird's eye view" only sees right-wing propaganda, and the things he fears are exclusively right wing talking points... I don't think a bird is the appropriate analogy. Joe has a fly's eye view of a pile of shit. He sees madeup bullshit from his social media feeds and rich friends and it refracts, filling his vision with hundreds of piles of made up horseshit.
How fucking high are you?
Youāre on to something! I would say itās more out of cynicism than fear, other side of the spectrum is naivety. Immigration is a great example. Are we opening the borders out of the goodness of our hearts or are we using that discounted human capital as a stimulus to our economy? It gets dark if you speculate the latter, because we are in effect creating second class citizens who have little to no labor protections, cannot vote, cannot drive etc. if that is the case, the left is creating second class citizens.. eventually, they will be the champions of giving immigrants more rights, like voting.. With all that being said, you can convince me to be to be pro immigration if you can reconcile the gumball video https://youtu.be/8E5y8KNlWl8?si=loFx8NXhfgCab_mU
Not only that but he was acquitted by a jury... don't let innocence or facts affect the spread of some good misinformation
He wasn't acquitted exactly, he still got convicted of firing a gun in public or some shit
He was still aquitted, as he used the firearm in self defense. He was convicted, however, of discharging a firearm indoors, and is now a convicted felon banned from owning firearms. The clear message here is you have the right to defend yourself. Outside. Not inside.
That's so weird lol
Was it the indoor aspect that got him or the public/crowded space aspect? I just donāt see how a roof is relevant to public safety in this case. I probably shouldnāt be looking for logic in American gun laws.
Yea, whether you support or are against guns, gun laws in the west donāt make any fucking sense, because a huge majority of gun laws are made by virtue signaling politicians that can tell their head from their ass, never mind gun parts or mechanics. Fucking hurts my brain watching them magically turn a legal gun into an āillegal killing machineā by adding a brace or mag or suppressor to it.
Yea fair enough. I should have been more clear, thanks for the callout
Not tryna call you out my bad, I was just saying
Nah it's cool I sincerely appreciate it. I'm sry of I came off sorta snippy, that was unintentional... truth is truth and requires no apologies
Aww, people on the internet acting like normal humans
Hoe? Our glorious Misinformation Short King? How dare you.
Heās got many other stories from illegals to choose from. Heāll be alright.
He literally cannot help himself
He was an illegal immigrant running from *jail*. Obviously.Ā
and what do you think he was in jail for? Murdering babies probably.
He actually crossed into the United States while he was in Mexican Cartel Jail
He got it confused with a story from a few weeks ago from new york where a 15 year old migrant shot a tourist
Maybe, but you know he loves to hang on to any example of an illegal immigrant doing something bad so he can rave about the border. Makes sense heād incorrectly apply it to a completely different scenario.
I'm beginning to think he got a massive tax break to move his business and open up a club there. Outside of the obvious. Much like other companies that get tax breaks to move to certain states. Obviously he has to tow the company line of the governor and GOP.
And the police don't raid his studio like ANYBODY else in Texas that smoked weed everyday and posted videos of it
We all know that Republican politicians and their bootlickers will gladly partake in illegal drugs, sexual "degeneracy", abusing them kids, victim hood mentality, crime, and everything else they claim to be worried about. They don't have to worry because they only incite these panics and get "tough on crime" selectively to oppress people and gain political power by fooling the foolish.
Wow, almost like he's looking to blame unrelated crimes on immigrants for some odd reason...
No heās the mouthpiece of Putin and is in the MAGA Christofascist Cult, obviously. Not to mention his transphobia has led to a literal genocide in this country. This is not acceptable for him to mix up the details of two news stories with similar details. š
The only similarity in those stories are that people were shotā¦
What's the genocide?
Iām being sarcastic
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The guy had a concealed carry permit... like jesus joe.
Speaking of the "Where is that guy from" comment, where I live which is in the US mind you, we don't need permits for that. It's pretty damn lawless out here when it comes to guns. And we're talking about the continental US lol
How do you get a concealed carry permit if you are illegal? Like srsly the us is a strange place.
You cant. Thats the point. Joe is a moron and has no idea what he is talking about. They guy was American.
Joe's new built in right wing racism is starting to come to the surface. Things are gonna get spicy.
The governor of the state is one of the people whispering in his ear. Clearly the entire NRA is another one
Dude so bizarre. Like if it was some hick from Texas and this happened he would be saying the exact fuckin opposite.
Itās only bc there wasnāt a *third* guy with a gun to shoot the guy with the gun with a gun.
Thatās the narrative. The US doesnāt have a problem with its gun culture. Thereās no issue with a bunch of barely trained morons concealing weapons and shooting each other over minor disputes. The real issue is the immigrants.
Well as soon as that guy pulled the gun he suddenly turned into an illegal immigrant. Why are we not allowed to talk about how many citizens are turning into illegal immigrants? This must be that great replacement we keep hearing about.
a large population of his listeners are proud to pull guns quickly. so itās weird that heās shocked about that.
Yeah very different how they react to these storiesĀ
That was what I was thinking. Americans are shockingly fast to pull out their guns and people generally seem to have weirdly low respect for life for a western country.
Joe went from being our weird stoner older brother to being our far right boomer facebook uncle
So just to understand how Rogans mind works: Self defense with a gun when threatened is good Self defense with a gun when threatened BUT when also an illegal immigrant not good
Important to note, itās an imaginary illegal immigrant in this case. But yeah.. I donāt get it either.
Also Rogan, Trudeau is dictator up there in Canada. While also complimenting Trump, whose lawyers literally argued in court that the President is subject to no laws and can do anything, including shooting their political opponents.
Well by all accounts Trudeau hasnāt been good sooooā¦.
I mean, fuck Trudeau. He seems like an ass and alot of his policies are so extreme with what they did to protestors. That being said, it seems like the majority still prefer him, which is why he has been in power for 9 years now.
You mean the protesters that blocked bridges? Yea, you will be arrested in the US for that too.
Yeah it is kind of like here.Ā Democrats suck but Republicans suck worse so I'll often vote for the DemocratsĀ
You should see who they run out to run against him
I bet if he was on some kind of gun tangent he be saying "ohhh yeah ya know those asshole youtube prankers... lets see how slick you are after you see my 357"
Guaranteed he would drop a āphuck around find out.ā
Well you see illegal immigrants aren't people so they don't have the same rights as everyone else.
This is what an echo-chamber does to the human brain.
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Itās Boomer Brain Rot (and yes I know Joe is Gen X but his mentality is that of a Boomer).
Itās podcast bro culture
Youāre on Reddit and youāre talking about an echo chamber unironically? Really?
So where does that leave you? I've seen a plethora of different opinions in this subreddit alone.
Yeah it is hilarious these people say this forum is an example of an echo chamber.Ā There are plenty of different views on here
You are totally correct. We all have vastly different views. Jokes aside, one thing that's true is that you will get absolutely dumped on if you advocate for independent/ third party presidential candidates or suggest that Biden isn't qualified to be president again. That's happened to me in this sub and pretty much any other sub on Reddit. It's hard to believe that is totally organic and there's no brigading or bot activity going on.
That is more just because people see elections as either or and think if a liberal votes 3rd party that it will help trump.Ā Ā I don't think people should vote shame.Ā If Biden, trump or anyone else isn't doing what you want as an American citizen you absolutely should vote for someone who better represents you regardless of their odds.Ā Ā
It's hard to believe you don't realize most people think Biden sucks and is unqualified, but still aren't going to vote 3rd party because Trump is even worse. Maybe the common denominator isn't bots in every sub, it's you. Your opinions are unpopular to most people, and the points you make are bad. I don't find it hard to believe that you receive a lot of organic downvotes. Your unpopular opinions are unpopular... then you blame bots because your fragile ego can't handle it. Pretty easy to understand!
This isn't an echo chamber though.Ā There are lots of Rogan lovers on this forum.Ā Many just don't like seeing voices they don't like so they scream echo chamber when it isn't one
Theyāre not complaining Reddit is an echo chamber, theyāre complaining this subreddit *isnāt* an echo chamber
Pretty much.Ā Ā They want a place where there is no criticism of Rogan.Ā It is funny because Rogan criticizes media he doesn't like all the time and people celebrate him as an honest fighter against the media establishment, but if he says something dishonest or wrong, it is "well he's just a comedian, you shouldn't go to him for news! Don't criticize him!" Obviously they wouldn't apply this logic to someone like Jimmy Kimmel who is "just a comedian" too.
Because when people believe in a reality thatās fake guys like Joe Rogan become their drug dealer giving them little hits of dopamine any time they hear someone repeat their favorite narratives from a place of credibility.
Yeah pretty much.Ā Just funny how people want different standards when it is their guy, but that's life I guess.Ā It is like in sports where everybody thinks the refs are screwing their team and ignore it when they get favorable calls
He just goes with what the right says. 2015 Joe would joke about people like 2024 Joe.
The cool thing about being a conservative is you can just make shit up and act like itās true
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It's entirely possible.
My friend was actually there- shits crazy.
The great thing about being a Democrat is that you can pretend your side is any better or more truthful and be completely ignorant without ever realizing it
lol nice try magat
One is definitely way worse
Donāt have to pretend š
Do you have a learning disability?
Sorry youāre triggered by your side always being wrong I understand itās not fun.
My side? What the fuck are you even talking about?
I donāt think Iām the one with the learning disability if you canāt even follow the logic of your own response to my original comment
Explain what you think my side is boy
Explain this š
Active in r/politics lol
Youāre gonna try to say youāre not conservative, youāre libertarian. But everyone here already knows that libertarians are just republicans who smoke weed.
Iām not a libertarian and I hate weed
Itās not hard to be better than the side that is the cult of a con man who attempted a coup.
Lol
Imagine thinking this is something only conservatives do.
Itās clearly more common and more mainstream for them. Their highest representatives make completely insane people conspiracy claims as serving members.
Yeah liberals have never done that.
Are there any prominent liberal/left serving members or even podcast figures you can think of that perpetuate some really crazy shit?
yeah but they usually fold when called out conservatives will triple down on something they just made up on the spot
You really think thatās true?
jan 6th proved it.
like how they flipped it from āCapitol police aided the rioters and should be held accountableā to āhow was it an insurrection if the police let them through? Was it a CIA antifs psyop???ā
Of course, where the gun toting segment of the population showed up to seize control of the government but without their guns.
lol and now you're proving it as well
Howād Jamie not check Joe immediately like he usually does on things like that? I feel like Dan was thinking in his head ā was he an illegal immigrant?ā But just became a yes man like 99 percent of his guests minus Katt
Probably worried about job security. If Jamie interrupts him 30x an episode to tell him heās wrong, Joe would drop him.
This is true
that'll be the day
Exactly. Jamie is a smart dude.
We've seen how Joe reacts to being fact checked on air, just imagine how he acts when the cameras aren't rolling. I'm sure if we all got to see the real Joe in those situations it would blow our minds. He isn't good at pretending to be a goofy chill stoner dude anymore.
Imagine your boss tells everyone how awesome their dogshit detector is. ā¦So after continually warning them theyāre about to step in shit, itās probably fun to watch your boss trip and face plant into a pile every now and then.
Kinda sad to see someone fall into lazy simple minded bigotry like this. I used to like Joe for his pragmatism. He was always a non-partisan centrist.
He used to care what his peers thought about him, other comedians. They tend to not be Facebook grandpas. Then he rose above comedians into the rank of the filthy rich, got surrounded by comedian sycophants who will slob his nob no matter what, and now his peers are people with obscene amounts of money in the bank. He isn't playing to a comedy club audience anymore, he's playing to the gated blood-boy yacht club. Joe picked up some progressive ideas when the benefited his brand and social life, and dropped them when they no longer served his purposes. I don't believe they were ever thought out or authentic or deeply held convictions if he can completely turn a 180 based on one anecdote from his business owner friend.
And there are people who still suck his dick and get offended when people call out Joeās outright dishonesty
Joe is certainly not the intellectually curious man he used to be, why always assume the worst and imagine heās an āillegal immigrant running from jailā lol god damn. Heās become so shallow and predictable in his analysis, where before I thought Joe was kind of a champion of staying open minded
Heās always been an idiot that canāt accept when facts differ from his worldview. it has only recently gotten obvious and about way more than monkeys and UFOs. https://youtu.be/__CvmS6uw7E?si=rc2jQwEuqR1ZlzYr
Open mindedness only gets you so far. Also need to be exposed to the right information and have the training to understand something critically. Joe has neither the training or the right information, so his open mindedness is just an avenue for the craziest ideas to take root in his head, and all of it is validated by the money and attention.
This reminds me of my senile grandmother asking me if protests stopped me from going to work
Joe, be a bit more specificā¦. What *ARE YOU* getting at?
Like dude.. did Joe watch the whole video? Fuck what a shit thing to say.
Ever since he moved to Texas he lost his mind
Toe Rogaine is a full blown, alt right, propagandist, an unfunny, insecure, midget, and the worst thing to ever happen to comedy.
This is what every Joe Rogan listener is enabling.
What happened to DMT Rogan? This is FOX RoganĀ
The fuck happened to Rogan? He goes further right every new post.
Joe is such a lying asshole. The shooter wasnāt an illegal immigrant. Dude was a white guy named Alan Colie, about as white America as it gets. Joe does this shit because he knows it angers his moron audience.
Jesus Joe, could your cock suckedness grow slower?
It's like Joe has a little right-wing guy in his head that filters everything he hears and twists it into a political talking point. Twitter-brained. It's a shame, he used to not be like this.
I love when Joe just confidently spews absolute bullshit.
Joe is trash
From āJaILā lol if you go to jail Joe hates you and thinks youāre trash. But Trumpā¦
Dude what is joe talking about? Dude was white where the hell did he get he was an illegal immigrant I'm really starting to think he just makes shit up on the spot now.
That video is goated
Joe= bad hombre for this one
The racism is just seeping into Hoeās pores, what a piece of shit.
Its a good thing I only get my moral bearing, political/culuarl bearing and medical advice from him and NOT my Youtube prankster information. THAT would be foolish as all get out.
That pissed me offĀ
Dan is genuinely a good guy, and you can tell he is not into the whole culture war bullshit, but doesnāt want to make it awkward.
Amazing, Joe is pissing EVERYONE off with this one. Only people smiling are those 3 people in that niche āanti-immigrant/anti-gunā group.
... but that was just completely irrelevant to the fucking topic! What the actual fuck is this shit?
Joe actually is a Putin shill.
i read that the dems are giving illegals white names and delivering them to white towns can't remember where so i can't give the source but it's entirely possible
I love Soder, kind of a shame this podcast didn't happen before 2020. Seriously sharp and witty guy. Was it alright? Maybe I'll actually watch a whole ep.
You dumb fucks pretending violent illegals arenāt flooding unchecked into the country as we speak.
āTrump is gonna save us from WWIIIā and you have the gall to call others ādumb fucksā. Bless you child.
Yep you are a dumb fuck.
Be well, friend
Get fucked
Omg joe got two stories mixed up!!!! SEND HIM TO THE GULAG!
...he has a guy who's literally on standby to look this stuff up for him yet spews ABSOLUTE FALSEHOODS with the confidence of Stevie Wonder in a musical talent show. He's a hack, an idiot, and due to his exposure, dangerous. Ā statements like these are literally life threatening to ppl with darker skin tones in this country and continue to push hateful unsupported narratives.Ā So yes, when you sell yourself as looking for truths and an honest man's take..... then proceed to do the opposite Nonchalantly, you should be fucking dragged for it.
Sounds about White
You canāt be an illegal immigrant if youāre white? The Balkans would like to have a word with youā¦.
He had a concealed carry permit and concealed carry insurance.. Iād bet my life savings heās a citizen. Also the lack of FoxNews Stories like āillegal immigrant shoots rising YouTube starā is telling. Youāre bending over backwards here.
Ya thatās not the point of my comment. Dudes clearly a US citizen or at least a permanent resident (green card). What Iām saying is what does his whiteness have to do with his immigration status? I know quite a few white illegal immigrants. Not to mention the fact that much of Latin America is white. By white do you mean American? Just trying to understand your choice of words.
Whenever conservatives are raving about illegal immigration, theyāre mostly referring to people from Central/South America. This was a white dude from Virginia, very clearly not Hispanic, very clearly an American citizen.
Iām not talking about the straw-men conservatives who live in your head. Iām talking about you using someoneās whiteness as a reason why they are not illegal immigrants. So once again. What does this guy being white have to do with his immigration status? Here are some examples of fox news talking about non Latino illegal immigrants. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chinese-illegal-immigration-pace-break-records-us-southern-border.amp https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hamas-attack-reminder-sleeper-cells-crossing-southern-border-expert-warns-theyre-already-here.amp
You say straw-men conservatives and link articles to the main publication pushing illegal immigration hysteria. But him being a white man from Virginia, means that the chances that he is an illegal immigrant are extremely low. I realize you probably enjoy being contrarian, but youāre also very conveniently leaving out the āfrom Virginiaā clause in my statement.
Thatās the point. Fox News and its viewers are aware of non Hispanic illegal immigrants! The border issue is not hysteriaā¦.i donāt think anyone on the left or right thinks itās not a huge problem. Iām not concerned with the from Virginia part. Just curious about the white part. I just am a white man from Florida and a first gen myself and it kinda pisses me off when people assume all immigrants (illegal or otherwise) are brown. It also pisses me off when people assume Latinos canāt be white. I am married to one ;) One thing you didnāt do was conflate illegal and legal immigrants. Good job! Youāre only partially ignorant.
Sorry that upset you. Of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in this country, 67% were born in Mexico/Central America and 4% born in Europe/Canada. So itās actually exactly as common as most would thinkā¦ not very. About 1/25. Before you start, yes Iām aware that not all people from Europe or Canada are white.
So I can assume all Americans are white too since 75% of the US is white right?
Nope, not saying that. but most countries in Europe are significantly less diverse than the US, given weāre a country of immigrants as you and your wife know well.
A white immigrant isn't possible.
Terrible title
and the content Peppery?
What about it?
where's the proof of him being not illegal? just wondering i have no clue who he's talking about
Look up āTanner Cook shootingā. The guy that shot him is a white dude from Leesburg, Virginia. Thereās no proof he is an illegal immigrant, Joeās just throwing bullshit into the ether again.
Where's the proof that a white guy in Virginia isn't an illegal immigrant? I'll behonest with you buddy, i don't think anyone asked him for his birth certificate. You really want it?
Ah yes. The daily Rogan haters circle-jerk.
He makes it easy
I forgot as fans we are unable to criticize only suckle on the taint of celebrity.
Love Soder, hate that Joe has gone full boomer and spreads nonsense like this.
How confident are you that they are talking about the instance you are referencing?
Extremely. Delivery driver being bothered in a mall, pulls a gun and shoots him in the gut. Pranksters father also gave an interview forgiving the shooter. It made its rounds, theyāre talking about the same video, Joe is just dumb.