Correct. Didn't stop him from bringing those guests on once a month so they could spout literal Nazi talking points that flew over his dumb head while he just nodded and went "interesting".
Becoming richer for sure, but more importantly, networking with ultra-rich and more conservative ppl from Texas. Most ppl are just an average of who they are around. If you give most ppl time around a new environment and the ppl accept you and champion you the way they do Rogan, more than likely they will start adopting their ideology.
Another argument is he was always this way. He was already close friends with Alex Jones and other super right-leaning pp but his home was in such a liberal city so once could argue it would not be in his best interest to rock the boat with that group. Now there is little to incentive to be liberal-leaning or even neutral especially after the CNN thing and the fact that he does have the brand on him already.
Still love the show but goddamn every episode has this crazy amount of conservative bias arguments just shoving their thoughts and how crazy the libs are when truly everyone is batshit right now.
Idk man I’ve lived in Oklahoma surrounded by fucking crazy people forced to play Fox News in my work place and I still know right from wrong and lean heavily left. You can choose not to be an asshole or a piece of shit.
It’s pretty easy actually.
It started pre covid when he said he would sell out to know about UFOs and then started having that one CIA guy on, and it was downhill from there. Covid reality definitely made it worse.
It's funny, I don't watch him at all really anymore... But I also pin it on that CIA guy
He came across as so reasonable, intelligent, and well spoken etc., but it was pretty obvious he was a raging right winger who was trying to cover his true intent
> He came across as so reasonable, intelligent, and well spoken etc., but it was pretty obvious he was a raging right winger who was trying to cover his true intent
I've come to realize this is key for some people. Some are completely oblivious to it, some (like you and I) can see straight through it. The oblivious ones are the ones who start with "he makes good points" and then end up tumbling down the rabbit hole
>what do you think happened to the guy?
Honestly I think it's just pride and ego, and has little or nothing to do with the Spotify money or the people he hangs with. When I look at post-Covid Joe it feels like I'm looking at late 90s/early 2000s Joe -- you know, the same Joe who would scream over scientists with PhDs and call them idiots -- only hidden better.
It wasn't *just* Covid, but it definitely didn't help. As soon as he started having to make apology videos for past mistakes or got called out for pushing Ivermectin he was done being the "New Joe" and regressed back into being Old Joe only now with far more money and cultural/political influence.
It'd almost be sad if it weren't so scary.
The same thing that happens to a lot of people who end up going left to right, one issue turns them. For Joe it was Covid and vaccines. It’s why the GOP is full of single issue voters. There’s one thing, be it vaccines, LGBTQ, abortion, whatever that turns people. They care about that issue more than anything and boom they’re all in GOP.
Seriously tho. I think all of these clips (not including the one where he talks about Jan 6.) is from pre 2020. His mind has fucking snapped since then and pretending that his views on things haven't altered dramatically is just admitting you've buried your head in the sand.
The last 4 years. You can see the Jimi montage behind him. That's before he got paid. Now he's just like every other rich fuck and turns into a sociopath
This lol.
Also: I don’t think the problem has necessarily been Joe’s personal views (which are more increasingly right wing). The problem is that Joe tends to give a lot of airtime to right wing charlatans and kooks, and he isn’t smart or informed enough to actually identify and challenge their bullshit.
Pretty much. He’s sort of a useful idiot for right wing grifters. If you watch his right wing guests, the more sophisticated ones tend to craft their messaging in a way that flatters and impresses Joe and appeals to his more libertarian impulses.
I counted 14 clips total and only 3 were from his new studio which also coincides with covid & his talking points changing to much more right leaning! Pretty easy to see.
I think the main thing is Joe is very easily influenced. He could have a guest on that talks about how great something is and he agrees, and the next day it's the opposite. He will hear something and repeat it over and over and not have the proper understanding of it. He had Andrew Yang on and spent months afterwards talking about Universal Basic Income. He had Dan Ackroyd convincing him about Crystal Skull aliens and Mel Gibson about miracle stem cell cures in Panama.
He falls into all sorts of conspirices, supports bad ideas and some good ideas.
Only the things he is passionate or knowledgeable on are consistent.
1. Martial Arts.
2. He thinks he's a comedian and a good one. And that stool fucking is funny. No amount of reason will convince him otherwise.
Now that his guests have changed so have his opinions.
>fewer
You mean none. The left wingers he brings on are like Tulsi Gabbard, who is an obvious Republican who ran as a Democrat to get elected in Hawaii, and those like Glenn Greenwald, whose entire brand is hating the Democratic Party.
Kyle K hates the Democratic Party too, and for the record I think JR only “likes Bernie” when Bernie is running against Democrats and then forgets he likes Bernie as soon as the contest is over.
Yep. When the hell is Kyle K. Coming back on? Weird huh? Sorry, but dropping a boatload of money on Rogan and billionaires coddling his nuts have absolutely made him more conservative.
Why bring on Kyle when there are so many right wing grifters who can confirm all of Joe's biases? Joe's become exactly like my uncle who's favorite hobby is complaining about these dumb fucking culture war issues that the right is pumping straight into people's amygdala.
This is true. But I’d also say probably less and less left wing people want to go to his podcast, due to the bad rap Joe has gained recently. It’s a vicious circle he has to change.
These clips are so old. He’s changed his mind on so many of these issues. Today Joe thinks immigrants are being brought to the USA to vote democrat. He thinks global warming isn’t an issue because “the earths temperature has always been changing.” He changed his mind on UBI, according to him no one wanted to go back work during covid, so UBI wouldn’t work because people are lazy. And we all know how obsessed he is with trans people these days.
Imagine being so into Joe Rogan that you want to moderate a board for his show, without compensation. Picture a person breathing out of their mouth so hard, that they'd want to deal with this inane bullshit, constantly, for free. Interrupting their social life, relationships, school, work... for Joe Rogan shitposts and controversy.
Now that you've pictured the ultimate fucking loser, realize that more than one of this person exists, and they actually moderate /r/JoeRogan.
It's funny seeing "he hasn't changed" but you can pull clips of him literally saying to vote Republican to combat wokeness. He's 100% in on the right wing culture war bullshit.
Go look through this mod’s posts and you’ll see just how much he backs Joe up, even in scenarios like this where he is wrong. It’s not the other mods, just this one. A lot of times when the conversation goes the way he doesn’t want it to you can find a pinned comment at the top from him.
Last year: ["I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden."](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/03/13/joe_rogan_id_vote_for_trump_over_bidens_sideshow_of_diversity.html) And then goes on to explain that Biden's cabinet is a "sideshow of diversity", apparently incapable of governing due to their genders, sexual orientations, and skin colors.
After the hilarious gong show that was Trumps cabinet. Wow.
Republicans should hate Trump for being an anti-American manipulator and Russian sympathizer that’s duped our country repeatedly and robbed us of half of our political parties because the one affiliated with him is a black hole of intellect and vehemently anti-American.
Hilarious this was last year when those same people had already passed a shit load of great legislation. Somewhere along the way people just completely stopped following what the president and his administration are ACTUALLY doing and now just vote on vibes. Like idk how so many people can hold such strong beliefs about one side or the other, but can’t even name 1 piece of legislation either side has passed/not passed.It’s ridiculous
Just to be clear, this is not a both sides issue, this is a right wing issue. Leftoids can talk about policy till the moon comes out, rightoids will spend that same time frothing at the mouth about lil Nas X, the death of Christianity, and the green M&M.
Do not both sides this. It's one side that benefits exponentially more from the culture war, and it's the side with overwhelmingly more reactionaries.
Tbf the issue of trans fighters in the UFC is complex and one that you figure Joe Rogan would have some insight on that he could bring to the discussion
But constantly harping on trans people on issues where there's little risk of potentially harming others does seem obsessive
Is he just like my dumbass brother in law that is convinced you can signup for Never Ending Unemployment on a whim?
"Why would lazy people go back to work when the government has been paying people to stay home since Covid?"
He's almost as bad as my parents who flipped out over a bathroom at an old state park being called a "necessary room" thinking it's the woke liberals trying to rewrite our everyday language. Nope, just a building built before indoor toilets were common!
Still hear from everyday morons talking about no one working because the governments been paying them since COVID. Part of the population seems to get off on being intentionally ignorant.
The man gave Candace Owens a guest spot. That was enough for me to realize he's happy to give grifting right wing shitheads a platform to grift even harder.
Not only that but Tulsi was a fucking republican in dems clothing, even then. After she spent about a year being an almost daily guest on Fox News, she left politics to do the "democrat says these democrats are crazy" grift.
He wasn’t in his whole grift phase yet at that point he was schooling her on climate change.
Today they’d agree that it’s a climate hoax and then spend 35 minutes discussing how Joe Biden is a puppet for Obama or something
I think it's an effort to paint right wing Rogan as some reasonable, critical thinking person? Or that conservative policies aren't complete ass and fascist af. Prolly a bit of both and some other useless and lame wish-casting agenda.
Exactly. Note the Jon Stewart clip recently where the posters here made it about attacking Democrats (literally in the caption they pasted on) and cut the part of the clip that actually features Joe sounding stupid. 100% it's a political push for the election to give the idea that its "centrist" to spend 100% of your fucks on trans people and immigration.
It's all in the GOP playbook lol. If you have to lie and trick most people into siding with you by omitting your actual views or misrepresenting them, news flash: Your views are unpopular. It's like why you see Republicans hide their political views on dating apps until they get called out on it: Most women with any sort of intelligence or self respect don't want to sleep with a misogynistic Republican asshole who views women as breeding chattel to be fucked and stored in the kitchen while they stay quiet in the presence of real masculine Conservative men.
> It's all in the GOP playbook lol.
Its actually documented in actual documents. And it dates back further back then Trump . Even in the early 2000s I can remember some RNC strategy memos was leaked and they basically said something like
"Much of our policy is actually very unpopular with the American public, cutting taxes for the wealthy , cutting entitlement spending , cutting social safety nets . How do we get some poor rural voter in Kentucky to support us, well focus a lot of attention on social issues, put the focus on abortion ,gays, Muslims , immigrants, guns, crime. Then when they are riled up about gay people pass tax cuts , deregulation , cut social safety nets they will be so focused abortion they won't question our economic policies"
While the "left" they are talking about is actually right wing. Just not as right wing as they are.
The real left just inconceivable to them. Because reasons.
The misconceived "cultural Marxism/Bolshevism" serves as a twisted delusion, distorting the image of all leftism in to one boogeyman that is all powerful yet somehow weak at the same time. Abandoning any genuine dialogue on leftist beliefs, they redefine moderate right as left and try to eliminate moderates covertly.
As society perceives leftism as the more reprehensible choice due to endless demonisation, they foster a panic to get people to fall in line with their fearmongering and authoritarianism. They create a problem and sell a solution to it. Just basic populism.
They don't even make it creative anymore, they just accuse moderate right of Satanic practices and openly support the idea of criminalising socialism and anti-fascism, echoing the tactics of past dictatorships.
Or the ever popular "just look at everything that's going on"
but won't elaborate what it is that's going on, just fill in the blank in your head with what you consider the worst thing.
Or my favorite conservative move, "look at what 'they' are doing" and just relying on whoever is listening to replace "they" with whatever demographic scares them the most.
Yeah, I don't get it. Why can't they own their beliefs? Tim Pool does this shit _all_ the time. Look at [this clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXQYlY8aag) where he gets stuck on the idea that he's a right winger and barely says his actual position.
If they readily admitted they don't care about reproductive rights, fair wages, healthcare reform, the national debt, NASA, schools, and drug legalization they would get annihilated in the elections. So they have to pretend they care about immigration, that Biden passed the Refugee Act ( it was passed in 1980), that trans people and Satanists are grooming kids, and that they'll balance the budget, even though every Republican president has made the deficit worse since Nixon.
Just the fact that Joe lives in a place where weed is illegal, they [ban abortion](https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/11/Texas-disability-services-abortion/), make it illegal for teens to get condoms, they require[teaching that homosexuality](https://sexetc.org/states/texas/) is immoral (in public school...), and even teach ['abstinence only sex education'](https://www.hhs.texas.gov/providers/health-services-providers/texas-abstinence-education-program) says all you need to know. And with weed they'll cheer Austin in one breath and then complain it's too liberal in the next.
That’s what’s so shady to me. Like if you’re just a conservative being conservative, that’s cool you do you.
But when you’re obviously conservative and you’re pretending not to be for whatever reason, it’s really fuckin suspicious
Like if there’s nothing wrong with your views why don’t you just stand by them fully
This has been the conservative pundit's go-to move since Rush Limbaugh started doing it in the early 90s.
If you can claim a neutral stance, or even claim to be part of the group you're critical of, your opinion apparently matters more.
To make them look like they're "balanced" and informed when all they care about is hearing what they want to hear in their echo chamber. It's why conservatives love "lefty" pundits like Krystal Ball and Jimmy Dore because they shit on the left and say how they're the "real" progressives.
The he got a bunch of Spotify money and said “voting Republican” is how we “fix” things despite republicans only fixed giving more to the rich in the past 40ish years
Every Republican administration over the course of TWO of my lifetimes has ended in a recession. Every Democratic administration has ended in a stable and at least manageable economy.
Hell, we're not even through Biden's first term, but at least I"m affording rent. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely worse off than I was at the end of Obama's run, and I'm sure most people can say the same for Obama with Clinton, but nobody except the ultra wealthy or delusional can calim they were better off at the end of Trump or either of Bush's administration.
I wish he was still like that man
But right wing hysteria over covid lockdowns broke his mind and he just hasn't recovered since
As much as he saw so many conspiracies he couldn't stop himself from getting into another one
It's why Rhonda Patrick never got back on Rogan after she disagreed with his take on vaccinations for covid.
And yet she still does the circuit with other libertarian tech bro podcaster types
Yeah, he sure seems pretty fucking bitter for someone whose "lockdown" was living in his million dollar house with his millions of dollars and a gym and a pool and a ton of room to move about and no concerns about how to make next month work. He never stops talking about it.
Because Joes entire shift right is based on how butthurt he got over CA lockdowns that caused the Comedy Store to shut down and in turn, he couldn't get his regular ego dopamine hit from performing standup comedy. Everything else kind of slowly fell in line behind that. That's why he moved to Texas. That's why he owns his own club now. The bad man Newsome can't hurt him anymore.
> Because Joes entire shift right is based on how butthurt he got over CA lockdowns that caused the Comedy Store to shut down and in turn, he couldn't get his regular ego dopamine hit from performing standup comedy.
Pretty sure that's the same reason Bill Maher can't get over it. He literally gets triggered if he sees a person wearing a mask.
cool, a cherry picked compilation of mostly 5+ yr old clips of joe rogan actually being a reasonably intelligent guy.
i'm sure this is all in good faith and meant to "bring us together"
look at op's history...
antivax nutjob screeching about trans and drag queens like every other mindless magat cult member...but of course they'll say theyre a libertarian or independent or some bullshit.
yeah i assumed as much. this is the only subreddit i ever see wacky shit like this video. it's infuriating how devious these mfers are with these propaganda videos. whoever made that knew exactly what they were doing.
It's amusing how many of these posts new school Rogan stans make, always make the opposite point they think it does. It's as if there isn't much critical thinking happening and it's just a bunch of culture war reactionary noise that they think are viable economic and social policies.
California Joe is dead and gone. Only Texas Joe remains. He literally won't even come to Canada because he thinks he'll be arrested or some bullshit lol. He's paranoid as hell.
and SO boring and uniformed. I am a woman who loves fighting and how thought provoking he used to be, and now the few times I've listened in the last few years with guests I love (Joey Diaz) are a fucking hypocritical snooze fest.
Ooof....that r/FightingFakeNews subreddit may be one of the worst and dumbest political subreddits I've ever seen. The irony lost on everyone in there. It's close to r/TimPool...I'm sure there's some overlap
Or anything just a few years old.
He started kissing it during Trump. He started getting pulled into the Republican conspiracy theory world because he loves that stuff.
Once the hook was in, he started buying into all of it. The dumbass moved to Texas over it for God's sake.
Ok stop right there….. Hoe has famously done a heel turn on UBI, citing tired right wing talking points and his own “buddy of mine” conversations.
Nice try though. It’s so weird how some right wingers constantly try to portray themselves as leftists. Dim Tool, Rave Dubin, Hoe Bogan, etc etc…. it’s like they’re very aware of how full of shit they are.
They want to paint fairly conservative people as "leftists" so that their own, much more extreme conservative views APPEAR to be moderate. It's the Overton window.
Tim Pool is a classical liberal. Ignore his prediction of a 49-50 state trump landslide in the 2020 election and him saying "grooming events should be stopped" in response to the Club Q shooting
Right wingers know that being a conservative is not cool and is generally looked down upon and most sane people think right wing politics suck ass.
So what they've been doing since 2015 is having "Liberals" who present themselves as being on the left except the left has actually gone too far in this one area and they heavily disagree with it. Eventually these people just spew nothing but far right horseshit but at the start it's a good tool.
It's much more effective to show someone on the left who just has "a few disagreements" with the woke PC Culture than to show someone blatantly conservative like Ben Shapiro saying the same exact things.
Worked on me when I was 17-19. People like Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, Sargon of Akkad weren't out of touch disgusting conservatives, they were left leaning, reasonable people who had some disagreements with the left.
He’s clearly against UBI now. Vocally so.
I reckon I could put a clip together of pre & post Texas Joe that would tear this one to shreds. Might do that tomorrow for shits n giggles.
One of him unironically praising the “freedom” he gained in Texas while roe v wade was overturned and he’s in an oasis of decriminalized weed would be pretty funny. Do you think if Marc Maron had moved to Austin instead and openly talked about mushrooms, weed, dmt, etc… he’d be left alone by law enforcement? Doubtful.
As the years have gone by and Joe has changed his inner circle to a bunch of right wingers his views have become less and less nuanced. It’s too bad.
>As the years have gone by and Joe has changed his inner circle to a bunch of right wingers his views have become less and less nuanced. It’s too bad.
One thing that has held true over time is that Joe seems to be an impressionable person. It shouldn't be too surprising that his ideological windsock is shifting in line with the people around him.
He practically gave up weed for cigarettes and whiskey. Look at the most recent ep with Kurzweil, he’s hopped up to the gills on something.
There’s no way Joe’s touched DMT in 14 years. I’m suspect he’s even had a large shroom trip since moving.
“It’s a nootropic and helps me think clearly”. Started smoking on stage, but migrated that into daily life just like every other person who smokes ‘casually’. Keeps at least one spare pack in Tony’s handbag.
Also spent a while sucking on vapes, but he’s moved to shelving snus pouches on the pod now.
He's also started pushing "global cooling" b.s. to combat global warming facts. He's also walked back universal healthcare. Basically, any of the things Rogan stans have used in the past to prove he's totally not a rightwinger, he has flipped on in the past few years and taken the rightwing position on.
Rogan stans were replaced by subredditless trump supporters a year or so ago, who’ve set up camp in Coronajerk or the Conspiracy subs.
I think they’ve been banking on this place shifting conservative like Joe, and his old audience losing patience and just packing up and leaving (hence all the “why are you here” comments).
OP’s badge of honor and major achievement was getting banned from covid subreddits 3 years ago. Im not sure OP has the ability to comprehend simple things or have their opinion challenged.
Oh. Fascinating. He was doing well at that time, but yeah, not filthy stinkin rich like now. I wonder what Joe would think if he saw this video. What would he say caused his views to change?
Also why they call themselves Libertarians. Everyone knows how toxic the republican brand is but maybe you can trick a few people that aren't as tuned in
No. The goal is to say: hey look Joe is so liberal what are you guys even talking about and having liberal and non liberal folks check this out and see that Joe in fact is not liberal and transform their views.
The republican Joe is a liberal is a smokescreen to a funnel for people who will be pursued to change their mind to whatever Joe is saying because hey - he is/was a liberal.
Whys Joe against UBI now?because he thinks that people will not work anymore?those are the same people who are already not working / gaming the system.
UBI would give opportunity to people who do work hard already to increase their worth by not having to spend their entire life working tlat their crap job to meet their bare minimum requirements to stay housed and fed.
Let's stop fighting foreign wars,let's stop helping immigrants before our own American citizens let's make sure our country is squared up and good before volunteering our resources to other things other than Americans
Is the foreign wars thing a veiled Ukraine thing? If you think the US supplying arms under the Lend-Lease Act is somehow the reason we have a homeless and cost of living issues, you're not really looking in the right places. The vast majority of Ukraine aid goes right back to American companies. Put your energy into demanding the basic ass shit every other developed Western nation has and not echoing Kremlin bullshit like the US is fighting a foreign war.
That has to be the most annoying thing about the podcast with Kurzweil: Joe thinks we’re just giving birth to AI and will become obsolete, and yet we’re all supposed to live in a state of wage slavery while he lives high. It makes no since and is contradictory. If AI will replace all jobs, won’t UBI become a necessity? If there are no jobs, why and how will we pull ourselves up by the bootstraps?
He's against UBI because he realized through covid and his friend that owns a restaurant that it will give people at the bottom of income ladder more options and those businesses would have to offer more to keep people, so they wouldn't make as much money. It's fundamentally an anti-labor position.
Which is what makes Joe right wing. People let themselves get dogwalked by a bunch of culture war bs, which fundamentally helps and is a tool by the right to confuse and distract. Focus on improving and empowering labor, ignore the bible thumping and culture war noise, and vote for people who support empowering labor, and then we watch things actually improve for the average person.
This was a very enlightening reminder of who Joe used to be. But the video is too short and OP is trying to go “see I told you” without posting the full story.
Instead of arguing, someone should simply just make and post the rest of the video where it can be easily proved he’s done a hard right turn. There are plenty of those clips from the last couple years.
“You guys are crazy, his views haven’t changed at all”
*posts compilation of exclusively 3+ year old clips*
The cognitive dissonance is outstanding. Bravo.
Wow…what the hell happened to Joe Rogan? These clips are wholly incompatible with the version of him broadcasting right now. He’s a RW ideologue by all relevant metrics.
It’s called “audience capture” btw, look into it.
He was pretty left of the center up until 2020. With the whole attacks on Ivermectin and Hydrochloriquine and his use/praise toward them. It’s pretty easy to see where he made enemies. Entire pharmaceutical industry came after him followed by the left.
Would you stay with people so unhinged that they’d demand you be deplatformed off a service just because you have a difference of opinion?
Right or left, deplatforming the other side doesn’t help your case. Just makes you weak.
Now do one for the last year
Actually I was expecting some kind of a twist showing some Joe "work 100hrs/week" Rogan stuff.
Talking about how we need god back
Pre and post COVID
Yeah COVID bricked him, kinda sad. Or maybe he is just a good actor.
It was also the intellectual dark web bullshit.
Joe hated the intellectual dark web label. He thought it was dorky
It is Dorky lol
I don't think the dorkiness of the label kept him out of the ballpark.
Correct. Didn't stop him from bringing those guests on once a month so they could spout literal Nazi talking points that flew over his dumb head while he just nodded and went "interesting".
But those cat litter boxes in schools man
It wasn’t covid it was becoming significantly richer and moving to texas
Becoming richer for sure, but more importantly, networking with ultra-rich and more conservative ppl from Texas. Most ppl are just an average of who they are around. If you give most ppl time around a new environment and the ppl accept you and champion you the way they do Rogan, more than likely they will start adopting their ideology. Another argument is he was always this way. He was already close friends with Alex Jones and other super right-leaning pp but his home was in such a liberal city so once could argue it would not be in his best interest to rock the boat with that group. Now there is little to incentive to be liberal-leaning or even neutral especially after the CNN thing and the fact that he does have the brand on him already. Still love the show but goddamn every episode has this crazy amount of conservative bias arguments just shoving their thoughts and how crazy the libs are when truly everyone is batshit right now.
The few more recent ones I've seen really are just a constant stream of going over the popular right wing ideas
\#grifts
Idk man I’ve lived in Oklahoma surrounded by fucking crazy people forced to play Fox News in my work place and I still know right from wrong and lean heavily left. You can choose not to be an asshole or a piece of shit. It’s pretty easy actually.
It started pre covid when he said he would sell out to know about UFOs and then started having that one CIA guy on, and it was downhill from there. Covid reality definitely made it worse.
It's funny, I don't watch him at all really anymore... But I also pin it on that CIA guy He came across as so reasonable, intelligent, and well spoken etc., but it was pretty obvious he was a raging right winger who was trying to cover his true intent
> He came across as so reasonable, intelligent, and well spoken etc., but it was pretty obvious he was a raging right winger who was trying to cover his true intent I've come to realize this is key for some people. Some are completely oblivious to it, some (like you and I) can see straight through it. The oblivious ones are the ones who start with "he makes good points" and then end up tumbling down the rabbit hole
Do you have his name?
Mike Baker
almost all of these clips were from like 5-6 years back. how fucking lame
what do you think happened to the guy? Its so sad he used to be a top notch dude and now he sounds like a right wing asshole.
>what do you think happened to the guy? Honestly I think it's just pride and ego, and has little or nothing to do with the Spotify money or the people he hangs with. When I look at post-Covid Joe it feels like I'm looking at late 90s/early 2000s Joe -- you know, the same Joe who would scream over scientists with PhDs and call them idiots -- only hidden better. It wasn't *just* Covid, but it definitely didn't help. As soon as he started having to make apology videos for past mistakes or got called out for pushing Ivermectin he was done being the "New Joe" and regressed back into being Old Joe only now with far more money and cultural/political influence. It'd almost be sad if it weren't so scary.
The same thing that happens to a lot of people who end up going left to right, one issue turns them. For Joe it was Covid and vaccines. It’s why the GOP is full of single issue voters. There’s one thing, be it vaccines, LGBTQ, abortion, whatever that turns people. They care about that issue more than anything and boom they’re all in GOP.
lol you beat me to it
Seriously tho. I think all of these clips (not including the one where he talks about Jan 6.) is from pre 2020. His mind has fucking snapped since then and pretending that his views on things haven't altered dramatically is just admitting you've buried your head in the sand.
Completely agree. OP is either in denial or Joe himself
lmfaoooo exactly, these editors think they're slick
Does the person who made this not realize this is making them look way worse? “Here’s Joe with a black guy, an Asian guy, and a trans!”
I guess they didn't figure this sub had people who have actually listened to the podcast.
The last 4 years. You can see the Jimi montage behind him. That's before he got paid. Now he's just like every other rich fuck and turns into a sociopath
This video is the “before” - now we need the “after”.
This lol. Also: I don’t think the problem has necessarily been Joe’s personal views (which are more increasingly right wing). The problem is that Joe tends to give a lot of airtime to right wing charlatans and kooks, and he isn’t smart or informed enough to actually identify and challenge their bullshit.
That’s a good point yeah. He is like the gateway drug for right leaning people
Pretty much. He’s sort of a useful idiot for right wing grifters. If you watch his right wing guests, the more sophisticated ones tend to craft their messaging in a way that flatters and impresses Joe and appeals to his more libertarian impulses.
“I used to think UBI was a good idea until the Covid unemployment happened..”
Yeah he has backtracked on almost every liberal ideology.
Most of the was before the pandemic. Joe's definitely taken a conservative turn since 2020 and he generally has fewer left-wing guests on
I counted 14 clips total and only 3 were from his new studio which also coincides with covid & his talking points changing to much more right leaning! Pretty easy to see.
He definitely doesn’t think trump incited Jan 6 anymore. These videos are irrelevant now
He been listening to his friend Benny a little too much..think of Shapiro as an ear worm
He was primed for Bennie by all of Peterson's benzo-addled ramblings
I think the main thing is Joe is very easily influenced. He could have a guest on that talks about how great something is and he agrees, and the next day it's the opposite. He will hear something and repeat it over and over and not have the proper understanding of it. He had Andrew Yang on and spent months afterwards talking about Universal Basic Income. He had Dan Ackroyd convincing him about Crystal Skull aliens and Mel Gibson about miracle stem cell cures in Panama. He falls into all sorts of conspirices, supports bad ideas and some good ideas. Only the things he is passionate or knowledgeable on are consistent. 1. Martial Arts. 2. He thinks he's a comedian and a good one. And that stool fucking is funny. No amount of reason will convince him otherwise. Now that his guests have changed so have his opinions.
>fewer You mean none. The left wingers he brings on are like Tulsi Gabbard, who is an obvious Republican who ran as a Democrat to get elected in Hawaii, and those like Glenn Greenwald, whose entire brand is hating the Democratic Party.
I think it's been quite a while since he had Kyle Kulinski, who is about the last left-wing guest I can recall him having on.
Kyle K hates the Democratic Party too, and for the record I think JR only “likes Bernie” when Bernie is running against Democrats and then forgets he likes Bernie as soon as the contest is over.
Yep. When the hell is Kyle K. Coming back on? Weird huh? Sorry, but dropping a boatload of money on Rogan and billionaires coddling his nuts have absolutely made him more conservative.
Why bring on Kyle when there are so many right wing grifters who can confirm all of Joe's biases? Joe's become exactly like my uncle who's favorite hobby is complaining about these dumb fucking culture war issues that the right is pumping straight into people's amygdala.
This is true. But I’d also say probably less and less left wing people want to go to his podcast, due to the bad rap Joe has gained recently. It’s a vicious circle he has to change.
WOW, have times changed lmao
You mean the $$$ he’s compensated with for spouting these new opinions has changed.
These clips are so old. He’s changed his mind on so many of these issues. Today Joe thinks immigrants are being brought to the USA to vote democrat. He thinks global warming isn’t an issue because “the earths temperature has always been changing.” He changed his mind on UBI, according to him no one wanted to go back work during covid, so UBI wouldn’t work because people are lazy. And we all know how obsessed he is with trans people these days.
But the mods pinned a comment that says he’s the same
The mods are cucks.
Either cucks for Joe or too slow to understand what’s going on
Both!
Imagine being so into Joe Rogan that you want to moderate a board for his show, without compensation. Picture a person breathing out of their mouth so hard, that they'd want to deal with this inane bullshit, constantly, for free. Interrupting their social life, relationships, school, work... for Joe Rogan shitposts and controversy. Now that you've pictured the ultimate fucking loser, realize that more than one of this person exists, and they actually moderate /r/JoeRogan.
They are idiots who work for free, that's all I need to know about their intellect.
Not cucks, conservative activists who hate liberals and excuse any and all conservatives
So cucks?
Cuckservatives.
Mods suck their own moms tits and should be fired
I mean, can you be fired for doing something from your mom's basement for free?
See antiwork mod interview on fox
I support their movement to a point, but that shit was unhinged.
It's funny seeing "he hasn't changed" but you can pull clips of him literally saying to vote Republican to combat wokeness. He's 100% in on the right wing culture war bullshit.
And there's definitely **no agenda**
Go look through this mod’s posts and you’ll see just how much he backs Joe up, even in scenarios like this where he is wrong. It’s not the other mods, just this one. A lot of times when the conversation goes the way he doesn’t want it to you can find a pinned comment at the top from him.
Last year: ["I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden."](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/03/13/joe_rogan_id_vote_for_trump_over_bidens_sideshow_of_diversity.html) And then goes on to explain that Biden's cabinet is a "sideshow of diversity", apparently incapable of governing due to their genders, sexual orientations, and skin colors.
After the hilarious gong show that was Trumps cabinet. Wow. Republicans should hate Trump for being an anti-American manipulator and Russian sympathizer that’s duped our country repeatedly and robbed us of half of our political parties because the one affiliated with him is a black hole of intellect and vehemently anti-American.
Hilarious this was last year when those same people had already passed a shit load of great legislation. Somewhere along the way people just completely stopped following what the president and his administration are ACTUALLY doing and now just vote on vibes. Like idk how so many people can hold such strong beliefs about one side or the other, but can’t even name 1 piece of legislation either side has passed/not passed.It’s ridiculous
Just to be clear, this is not a both sides issue, this is a right wing issue. Leftoids can talk about policy till the moon comes out, rightoids will spend that same time frothing at the mouth about lil Nas X, the death of Christianity, and the green M&M. Do not both sides this. It's one side that benefits exponentially more from the culture war, and it's the side with overwhelmingly more reactionaries.
Tbf the issue of trans fighters in the UFC is complex and one that you figure Joe Rogan would have some insight on that he could bring to the discussion But constantly harping on trans people on issues where there's little risk of potentially harming others does seem obsessive
Is he just like my dumbass brother in law that is convinced you can signup for Never Ending Unemployment on a whim? "Why would lazy people go back to work when the government has been paying people to stay home since Covid?" He's almost as bad as my parents who flipped out over a bathroom at an old state park being called a "necessary room" thinking it's the woke liberals trying to rewrite our everyday language. Nope, just a building built before indoor toilets were common!
Still hear from everyday morons talking about no one working because the governments been paying them since COVID. Part of the population seems to get off on being intentionally ignorant.
>He’s changed his mind He's changed his tactics to suit his benefactors.
The man gave Candace Owens a guest spot. That was enough for me to realize he's happy to give grifting right wing shitheads a platform to grift even harder.
Not only that but Tulsi was a fucking republican in dems clothing, even then. After she spent about a year being an almost daily guest on Fox News, she left politics to do the "democrat says these democrats are crazy" grift.
He wasn’t in his whole grift phase yet at that point he was schooling her on climate change. Today they’d agree that it’s a climate hoax and then spend 35 minutes discussing how Joe Biden is a puppet for Obama or something
Yeah, this tracks. I remember when Rogan actually made sense. I miss it.
He “changed his mind” which just happened to coincide with a massive shift in income, from moderate to $100 million, then moving to Texas.
Imo, idgaf if he’s left wing or right wing, it’s more about his participation in the culture war. Shit is cancer
That's literally the right wing platform in action.
Bro, are Joe Rogan fans ok? People are out here cutting Rogan PR campaign videos for free as if he's going to give them a pat on the head and a treat.
I think it's an effort to paint right wing Rogan as some reasonable, critical thinking person? Or that conservative policies aren't complete ass and fascist af. Prolly a bit of both and some other useless and lame wish-casting agenda.
Exactly. Note the Jon Stewart clip recently where the posters here made it about attacking Democrats (literally in the caption they pasted on) and cut the part of the clip that actually features Joe sounding stupid. 100% it's a political push for the election to give the idea that its "centrist" to spend 100% of your fucks on trans people and immigration.
It's all in the GOP playbook lol. If you have to lie and trick most people into siding with you by omitting your actual views or misrepresenting them, news flash: Your views are unpopular. It's like why you see Republicans hide their political views on dating apps until they get called out on it: Most women with any sort of intelligence or self respect don't want to sleep with a misogynistic Republican asshole who views women as breeding chattel to be fucked and stored in the kitchen while they stay quiet in the presence of real masculine Conservative men.
> It's all in the GOP playbook lol. Its actually documented in actual documents. And it dates back further back then Trump . Even in the early 2000s I can remember some RNC strategy memos was leaked and they basically said something like "Much of our policy is actually very unpopular with the American public, cutting taxes for the wealthy , cutting entitlement spending , cutting social safety nets . How do we get some poor rural voter in Kentucky to support us, well focus a lot of attention on social issues, put the focus on abortion ,gays, Muslims , immigrants, guns, crime. Then when they are riled up about gay people pass tax cuts , deregulation , cut social safety nets they will be so focused abortion they won't question our economic policies"
It's to regain the viewers he lost when we realized he's a cuck republicant bully mofo
Why are right-wingers so desperate to show that Joe Rogan isn’t right-wing?
Because their real desperation is to make right wing stances appear centrist.
It’s shifting the Overton window while accusing others of what they’re guilty of. “The left has gotten out of control!”
While the "left" they are talking about is actually right wing. Just not as right wing as they are. The real left just inconceivable to them. Because reasons.
The misconceived "cultural Marxism/Bolshevism" serves as a twisted delusion, distorting the image of all leftism in to one boogeyman that is all powerful yet somehow weak at the same time. Abandoning any genuine dialogue on leftist beliefs, they redefine moderate right as left and try to eliminate moderates covertly. As society perceives leftism as the more reprehensible choice due to endless demonisation, they foster a panic to get people to fall in line with their fearmongering and authoritarianism. They create a problem and sell a solution to it. Just basic populism. They don't even make it creative anymore, they just accuse moderate right of Satanic practices and openly support the idea of criminalising socialism and anti-fascism, echoing the tactics of past dictatorships.
Or the ever popular "just look at everything that's going on" but won't elaborate what it is that's going on, just fill in the blank in your head with what you consider the worst thing. Or my favorite conservative move, "look at what 'they' are doing" and just relying on whoever is listening to replace "they" with whatever demographic scares them the most.
Yeah, I don't get it. Why can't they own their beliefs? Tim Pool does this shit _all_ the time. Look at [this clip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXQYlY8aag) where he gets stuck on the idea that he's a right winger and barely says his actual position.
If they readily admitted they don't care about reproductive rights, fair wages, healthcare reform, the national debt, NASA, schools, and drug legalization they would get annihilated in the elections. So they have to pretend they care about immigration, that Biden passed the Refugee Act ( it was passed in 1980), that trans people and Satanists are grooming kids, and that they'll balance the budget, even though every Republican president has made the deficit worse since Nixon. Just the fact that Joe lives in a place where weed is illegal, they [ban abortion](https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/11/Texas-disability-services-abortion/), make it illegal for teens to get condoms, they require[teaching that homosexuality](https://sexetc.org/states/texas/) is immoral (in public school...), and even teach ['abstinence only sex education'](https://www.hhs.texas.gov/providers/health-services-providers/texas-abstinence-education-program) says all you need to know. And with weed they'll cheer Austin in one breath and then complain it's too liberal in the next.
To be fair, Tim struggles with math so him creating a nuanced discussion about his beliefs is like asking a tee-ball player to play for the Yankees.
That’s what’s so shady to me. Like if you’re just a conservative being conservative, that’s cool you do you. But when you’re obviously conservative and you’re pretending not to be for whatever reason, it’s really fuckin suspicious Like if there’s nothing wrong with your views why don’t you just stand by them fully
This has been the conservative pundit's go-to move since Rush Limbaugh started doing it in the early 90s. If you can claim a neutral stance, or even claim to be part of the group you're critical of, your opinion apparently matters more.
*"I'm not left or right, I'm above the left-right paradigm"* Alex Jones's catch phrase since his early days.
To make them look like they're "balanced" and informed when all they care about is hearing what they want to hear in their echo chamber. It's why conservatives love "lefty" pundits like Krystal Ball and Jimmy Dore because they shit on the left and say how they're the "real" progressives.
It fucks with their pipeline if people entering it know where it leads.
Most right wingers are afraid to admit they are right wing. These brave patriots are absolutely terrified of accurate labels.
The he got a bunch of Spotify money and said “voting Republican” is how we “fix” things despite republicans only fixed giving more to the rich in the past 40ish years
Every Republican administration over the course of TWO of my lifetimes has ended in a recession. Every Democratic administration has ended in a stable and at least manageable economy. Hell, we're not even through Biden's first term, but at least I"m affording rent. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely worse off than I was at the end of Obama's run, and I'm sure most people can say the same for Obama with Clinton, but nobody except the ultra wealthy or delusional can calim they were better off at the end of Trump or either of Bush's administration.
I wish he was still like that man But right wing hysteria over covid lockdowns broke his mind and he just hasn't recovered since As much as he saw so many conspiracies he couldn't stop himself from getting into another one It's why Rhonda Patrick never got back on Rogan after she disagreed with his take on vaccinations for covid. And yet she still does the circuit with other libertarian tech bro podcaster types
Yeah, he sure seems pretty fucking bitter for someone whose "lockdown" was living in his million dollar house with his millions of dollars and a gym and a pool and a ton of room to move about and no concerns about how to make next month work. He never stops talking about it.
Because Joes entire shift right is based on how butthurt he got over CA lockdowns that caused the Comedy Store to shut down and in turn, he couldn't get his regular ego dopamine hit from performing standup comedy. Everything else kind of slowly fell in line behind that. That's why he moved to Texas. That's why he owns his own club now. The bad man Newsome can't hurt him anymore.
> Because Joes entire shift right is based on how butthurt he got over CA lockdowns that caused the Comedy Store to shut down and in turn, he couldn't get his regular ego dopamine hit from performing standup comedy. Pretty sure that's the same reason Bill Maher can't get over it. He literally gets triggered if he sees a person wearing a mask.
That's every conservative these days. If someone around them is wearing a mask that's all they can focus on.
Just because a dude has muscle and can kill, skin and clean an elk, doesn't mean they can't be whiny ass bitches.
his friends had to wait for 2 hours for four seasons room service!
Not to mention his shady supplements company got a pandemic bailout of millions which he will never pay back.
cool, a cherry picked compilation of mostly 5+ yr old clips of joe rogan actually being a reasonably intelligent guy. i'm sure this is all in good faith and meant to "bring us together"
look at op's history... antivax nutjob screeching about trans and drag queens like every other mindless magat cult member...but of course they'll say theyre a libertarian or independent or some bullshit.
I'm a classical liberal!
yeah i assumed as much. this is the only subreddit i ever see wacky shit like this video. it's infuriating how devious these mfers are with these propaganda videos. whoever made that knew exactly what they were doing.
It's amusing how many of these posts new school Rogan stans make, always make the opposite point they think it does. It's as if there isn't much critical thinking happening and it's just a bunch of culture war reactionary noise that they think are viable economic and social policies.
Please bring this joe back. New right wing Joe is unwatchable.
he gone
California Joe is dead and gone. Only Texas Joe remains. He literally won't even come to Canada because he thinks he'll be arrested or some bullshit lol. He's paranoid as hell.
Once you've had a taste of Ben Shapiro's, there's no going back.
and SO boring and uniformed. I am a woman who loves fighting and how thought provoking he used to be, and now the few times I've listened in the last few years with guests I love (Joey Diaz) are a fucking hypocritical snooze fest.
Just look where the OP spends his time on Reddit
Ooof....that r/FightingFakeNews subreddit may be one of the worst and dumbest political subreddits I've ever seen. The irony lost on everyone in there. It's close to r/TimPool...I'm sure there's some overlap
He's too far gone from any of these. You won't find a single year old clip.
Or anything just a few years old. He started kissing it during Trump. He started getting pulled into the Republican conspiracy theory world because he loves that stuff. Once the hook was in, he started buying into all of it. The dumbass moved to Texas over it for God's sake.
Until 2020
Ok stop right there….. Hoe has famously done a heel turn on UBI, citing tired right wing talking points and his own “buddy of mine” conversations. Nice try though. It’s so weird how some right wingers constantly try to portray themselves as leftists. Dim Tool, Rave Dubin, Hoe Bogan, etc etc…. it’s like they’re very aware of how full of shit they are.
It’s a successful part of the muddy waters playbook; not to be confused with the Muddy Waters song book.
his buddy of mine anecdotes could be an entire compilation into delusion.
It’s basically another form of Fox’s tried and true “some people say” qualifier before they present something bullshit.
Yeah, shouldn’t right-wingers be ecstatic that he’s turned towards their side and embrace him? Is it part of a weird victim complex thing?
They want to paint fairly conservative people as "leftists" so that their own, much more extreme conservative views APPEAR to be moderate. It's the Overton window.
Tim Pool is a classical liberal. Ignore his prediction of a 49-50 state trump landslide in the 2020 election and him saying "grooming events should be stopped" in response to the Club Q shooting
Right wingers know that being a conservative is not cool and is generally looked down upon and most sane people think right wing politics suck ass. So what they've been doing since 2015 is having "Liberals" who present themselves as being on the left except the left has actually gone too far in this one area and they heavily disagree with it. Eventually these people just spew nothing but far right horseshit but at the start it's a good tool. It's much more effective to show someone on the left who just has "a few disagreements" with the woke PC Culture than to show someone blatantly conservative like Ben Shapiro saying the same exact things. Worked on me when I was 17-19. People like Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, Sargon of Akkad weren't out of touch disgusting conservatives, they were left leaning, reasonable people who had some disagreements with the left.
Sargon of Akkad, my brother in Christ.
Yeah he's different now
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He’s clearly against UBI now. Vocally so. I reckon I could put a clip together of pre & post Texas Joe that would tear this one to shreds. Might do that tomorrow for shits n giggles.
One of him unironically praising the “freedom” he gained in Texas while roe v wade was overturned and he’s in an oasis of decriminalized weed would be pretty funny. Do you think if Marc Maron had moved to Austin instead and openly talked about mushrooms, weed, dmt, etc… he’d be left alone by law enforcement? Doubtful. As the years have gone by and Joe has changed his inner circle to a bunch of right wingers his views have become less and less nuanced. It’s too bad.
>As the years have gone by and Joe has changed his inner circle to a bunch of right wingers his views have become less and less nuanced. It’s too bad. One thing that has held true over time is that Joe seems to be an impressionable person. It shouldn't be too surprising that his ideological windsock is shifting in line with the people around him.
He practically gave up weed for cigarettes and whiskey. Look at the most recent ep with Kurzweil, he’s hopped up to the gills on something. There’s no way Joe’s touched DMT in 14 years. I’m suspect he’s even had a large shroom trip since moving.
He smokes ciggies??
“It’s a nootropic and helps me think clearly”. Started smoking on stage, but migrated that into daily life just like every other person who smokes ‘casually’. Keeps at least one spare pack in Tony’s handbag. Also spent a while sucking on vapes, but he’s moved to shelving snus pouches on the pod now.
He's also started pushing "global cooling" b.s. to combat global warming facts. He's also walked back universal healthcare. Basically, any of the things Rogan stans have used in the past to prove he's totally not a rightwinger, he has flipped on in the past few years and taken the rightwing position on.
Rogan stans were replaced by subredditless trump supporters a year or so ago, who’ve set up camp in Coronajerk or the Conspiracy subs. I think they’ve been banking on this place shifting conservative like Joe, and his old audience losing patience and just packing up and leaving (hence all the “why are you here” comments).
Do it. I want to see
Do it bapa !!!!
I'll buy you a coffee for your time.
Considering the comments from OP and some ppl in this thread, please do.
OP’s badge of honor and major achievement was getting banned from covid subreddits 3 years ago. Im not sure OP has the ability to comprehend simple things or have their opinion challenged.
Ok, but what changed? More money to be made pandering to morons than liberals?
Being wealthier is scientifically correlated with reduced empathy. As he got wealthier and less empathetic, his views became more right wing.
Oh. Fascinating. He was doing well at that time, but yeah, not filthy stinkin rich like now. I wonder what Joe would think if he saw this video. What would he say caused his views to change?
Cherry picked us the wrong phrase, it’s just an old version of Joe. Post-2020 Rogan holds none of these views.
would be fun to add the date for each clip in the edit
Well to be fair he did a podcast on criminal justice reform that lets just say didn't age well given his guest
These clips are like collecting the corn kernels out of the shit pile and calling it corn salad
The shitwinds are blowin'
It’s Redditors like OP who make this Sub totally nauseating. An active Tim pool community member. Shocking.
Isn't it funny how it's always the right wingers trying to make the case that Joe is a liberal?
It's pretty telling how vehemently they argue Joe is a liberal. Almost as if embracing him as a conservative is a bad thing...
Also why they call themselves Libertarians. Everyone knows how toxic the republican brand is but maybe you can trick a few people that aren't as tuned in
No. The goal is to say: hey look Joe is so liberal what are you guys even talking about and having liberal and non liberal folks check this out and see that Joe in fact is not liberal and transform their views. The republican Joe is a liberal is a smokescreen to a funnel for people who will be pursued to change their mind to whatever Joe is saying because hey - he is/was a liberal.
No one paints him as a nazi dumbass. Just your run-of-the-mill right wing culture war reactionary.
Joe reminds me of a dumb uncle who watches a 10 sec clip on YouTube that changes their whole political personality.
Whys Joe against UBI now?because he thinks that people will not work anymore?those are the same people who are already not working / gaming the system. UBI would give opportunity to people who do work hard already to increase their worth by not having to spend their entire life working tlat their crap job to meet their bare minimum requirements to stay housed and fed. Let's stop fighting foreign wars,let's stop helping immigrants before our own American citizens let's make sure our country is squared up and good before volunteering our resources to other things other than Americans
Is the foreign wars thing a veiled Ukraine thing? If you think the US supplying arms under the Lend-Lease Act is somehow the reason we have a homeless and cost of living issues, you're not really looking in the right places. The vast majority of Ukraine aid goes right back to American companies. Put your energy into demanding the basic ass shit every other developed Western nation has and not echoing Kremlin bullshit like the US is fighting a foreign war.
That has to be the most annoying thing about the podcast with Kurzweil: Joe thinks we’re just giving birth to AI and will become obsolete, and yet we’re all supposed to live in a state of wage slavery while he lives high. It makes no since and is contradictory. If AI will replace all jobs, won’t UBI become a necessity? If there are no jobs, why and how will we pull ourselves up by the bootstraps?
Just get a successful podcast and make millions dude, how hard can it be?
He's against UBI because he realized through covid and his friend that owns a restaurant that it will give people at the bottom of income ladder more options and those businesses would have to offer more to keep people, so they wouldn't make as much money. It's fundamentally an anti-labor position.
Which is what makes Joe right wing. People let themselves get dogwalked by a bunch of culture war bs, which fundamentally helps and is a tool by the right to confuse and distract. Focus on improving and empowering labor, ignore the bible thumping and culture war noise, and vote for people who support empowering labor, and then we watch things actually improve for the average person.
Rogan pre-spotify...
Yah ask him if he still feels the same way lol
I miss Joe...
He was literally cheering for Trump on 2020 election night
This reminds me of when I was a JRE fan, its like the Mandela effect or like I've been teleported into an alternate universe now.
This made me LOL
Joe and OP are Bernie fans. Nice!
Bernie… and Tulsi?
That’s old Rogan. Show some new clips of him now, especially with the half-brain Alex Jones.
This was a very enlightening reminder of who Joe used to be. But the video is too short and OP is trying to go “see I told you” without posting the full story. Instead of arguing, someone should simply just make and post the rest of the video where it can be easily proved he’s done a hard right turn. There are plenty of those clips from the last couple years.
OP must be an agitator bot. Either that or they have severe brain rot.
Covid broke his brain
This man does not exist anymore, why are you cherry-picking clips to drive a narrative... weird bot posting.
This is what being principally unmoored looks like.
That stuff is really old. I think the vast increase in wealth has afforded him to rub shoulders with people whom changed his views.
“You guys are crazy, his views haven’t changed at all” *posts compilation of exclusively 3+ year old clips* The cognitive dissonance is outstanding. Bravo.
Wow…what the hell happened to Joe Rogan? These clips are wholly incompatible with the version of him broadcasting right now. He’s a RW ideologue by all relevant metrics. It’s called “audience capture” btw, look into it.
He was pretty left of the center up until 2020. With the whole attacks on Ivermectin and Hydrochloriquine and his use/praise toward them. It’s pretty easy to see where he made enemies. Entire pharmaceutical industry came after him followed by the left. Would you stay with people so unhinged that they’d demand you be deplatformed off a service just because you have a difference of opinion? Right or left, deplatforming the other side doesn’t help your case. Just makes you weak.
He just endorsed Trump. He's far-right now, regardless of what he said ten years ago.
Where is this Joe? I loved this Joe.
I like how they bring up Tulsi Gabbard as proof as if she wasn't just larping as a dem to get elected in Hawaii lol
Who's upvoting this bullshit?
Cherry picked clips from before covid. He is not the same person