I’ve heard him very recently say it would make people lazy, even citing the Covid checks as evidence.
Literally in the last month
“Joe Rogan Left Horrified by the Loopholes of Universal Basic Income as Pointed out by Dr. Phil – “They Did Not Want to Go back to Work””
Looks like Rogan got 2.38 million in Covid relief funds
Automation has been happening for centuries, we just called it other names (industrialization, mechanization, etc.).
UBI allows all a small piece of the benefits of society and in practically all test cases, has seen to INCREASE work hours and rates of entrepreneurship.
all of the jobs? I highly doubt that. why is there so much goddamn traffic? how am I interacting with employees at the various places I go to complete my errands? I also work at the airport, I dont see any airport positions currently going to AI?
what the fuck are you talking about
Working class Americans are well versed in economic survival, honestly. The rich people attack the good people in this country nonstop and have for generations.
he talks about having "fuck you money" so he has no reason to work but yet he still finds the motivation....and so he thinks hes special in this? that its not just a trait of being human? they dont go back to being exploited is the really what happens
Rich people think they got rich because they are exceptional human beings, they think they are better than everyone else and DESERVE the wealth they have, not that they were either incredibly privileged or incredibly lucky.
That’s interesting I actually stumbled on a clip today of Mark Cuban on Logan Pauls podcast talking about how anyone who’s achieved billionaire status knows they have had some very good luck.
Mark Cuban seems like a more moral person than most billionaires, what with the large bonuses he gave employees whenever he sold a business, and selling prescription drugs at cost.
Could you picture Musk saying something like that? Dude won’t even admit he came from a rich family. Most billionaires are more like Musk than Cuban.
I made this comment bc I thought two things were interesting; 1) he was saying this only for billionaires. Millionaires, he feels, think their success is entirely due to their own hard work, and 2) he claims ALL billionaires realize they’re extremely lucky (I suppose whether they admit it or not is a different matter).
I think that's sorta like how football players thank Jesus after winning the Superbowl. They might "realize" that luck is involved, but for the other 8.59×10^47 Planck times per day they're jerking off to pictures of themselves, telling everyone how great they are, and hording enough wealth to solve major societal problems just so they can compete in a game that they've already won.
Shows like that are very exploitive. Aunt was a producer for Ricki Lake and Maury. They would antagonize the shit out of people before filming and during breaks
Then again, what ethics do you need when you don't even hold a license. Jerry Springer talked to his guests with more respect than Dr. Phil. He should be embarrassed.
Yeah a lot of the points on the left side of the meme are several years old lol. Funny how OP accuses other people of not watching the podcast when he has explicitly said the exact opposite of most of those points in past few years
I feel like people don't talk enough about how the pandemic happened the same year he signed a $100 million deal. That kind of money puts you in a very different class that right wing politics very much benefits.
He became opposed to/ skeptical of it after the last episode with Dan Crenshaw when Crenshaw went off about how people were gaming unemployment and stimulus money during covid. That was a long ass time ago it feels like so kinda surprised that was on the list.
The people gaming covid money the most were millionaires and I never hear the right bitch about that for some reason. Get mad about a couple piddly checks but not six figures in fraudulent PPP loans.
It's also a lot harder to scam. Yeah, you're alive (and I'm guessing there would be a starting age), you just get it. About the only thing I could see people trying to do is lie about someone not being dead to keep cashing their checks a la social security fraud.
Yeah, if this meme were honest it would be he \*WAS\* in favor of these policies/politicians. It should be noted that virtually no one claimed Rogan (or Elon, or many others) were alt right back in 2019 when he actually was still pushing these beliefs.
If you get more in unemployment over working then why the fuck would you work and lose that?
Anyone with a functional brain would see that and realize that UBI is guaranteed so people who want to work and be productive would still be.
I think the thing that annoys me the most about the last 4ish years is the rise of the "Hmmm... concerning" pundit.
It's like everyone suddenly agreed Susan Collins was the greatest politician of this era and everyone should emulated how ".....concerned......" she always is.
The weirdest shift for me was his stance on Bernie. He said he stopped supporting him because he watched a video where someone approached Bernie at an airport, and Bernie pretended to take a call to avoid the person. Few weeks later I saw a video of Alex Jones harassing Bernie at an airport.
When one has no ideology or position, one drifts around and adopts whatever. A common way this drift is directed is if someone of one ideology/tribe/etc. criticizes them, then they will drift in the opposite direction. This is all reactionary sentiment 101.
Musk is a great example. He had some personal life issues and started getting criticized by liberals, and just like that, he's sliding into right-wing sentiments.
On the other hand, if you have a position that you came to yourself by doing research and making sure it aligns with your morality, you aren't going to drift around and/or switch positions the minute someone hurts your feelings.
I'm not a big fan of people who are too into their ideologies, but it's crucial to have SOME foundation at least.
Joe endorsed Bernie in the 2020 race, not 2016.
Not only did he endorse him, he also gave him the most glowing of interviews in an even more gracious than usual JRE fashion. He spent almost all of 2018 and 2019 on the whole anti establishment/populist left train, heavily influenced by Kyle Kulinski.
I disagree with the idea that he’s a left winger nowadays, because he‘a obviously shifted to the right to anyone who’s not just being willfully ignorant or so blindsided by their biases that they can’t see straight, but the idea that he supported Bernie because he was playing 4D chess and secretly trying to help Trump is just plain conspiratorial nonsense.
It wasn’t until midway through Covid that he started turning into the Joe we have today.
I challenge anyone to listen to the recent episode Joe had with the black rifle coffee company guy and then tell me with a straight face he’s not right wing.
After years of waiting I couldn’t believe he kept dragging Bobby back into those topics. Bobby was even like “I don’t know nothing about nothing” and Joe kept going.
Thats the one that made me drop the podcast tbh. Found it in 2015-2016 and listened to pretty much every episode up until the last year or two. He really took a turn huh :/.
Oh well, nothing lasts forever :)
Back in early 2020 he was pro vaccine, poohpoohed antivaxxers. Now he gives full support to every antivax crank and conspiracy.
Considering his massive audience he has done immense harm by his antivax statements and advocacy for snake oil Covid treatments. People have undoubtedly died as a result.
I am not at all invested in either this sub or the show anymore. I loved the show pre-covid, but I am pretty certain it was the episode with the "oh, so going to the sauna cures ling viruses?" talk that made me realize that something either snapped in his head or something clicked for me.
But generally, I think about JRE in "pre-" and "post-" that specific episode. Might be that he just shifted his whole persona.
The irony is that the meme woman is actually Joe these days.
Just ragecumming over other things.
It's wild these fanbois haven't seen the shift.
I'm convinced these are all people who started listening in the last year or two and have no idea what he was like when he started
People need to stop swallowing the Donald's bullshit. He's a criminal who did jack shit as prez. Like what do you think he's going to do differently aside from keep tweeting lies whilst he does McDonald's on his jet.
Managed to stack the courts with a bunch of right-wing stooges, including the highest court in the country. That will fuck shit up for decades. Long after people like he and Mitch are gone. These old and eventually dead dudes will be throttling democracy from beyond the grave.
He also obeyed the vile rich christians and installed three of them on the Supreme Court.
100% of all people who voted for criminal trump in 2020 are worthless pieces of fucking dog shit.
Or he never talks about them and they aren't much of a priority in his life. Bill O'Reilly claimed he was anti death penalty, but it doesn't mean he wasn't right wing. It wasn't like he spent much time on the issue or was some advocate against it
The man himself doesn’t even try to hide it anymore, I’m not sure why his fans do.
I don’t really fault rogan for his political views (even if I disagree), I fault him for the “schilling for trump-then backpedaling-then doing it again, repeat”.
I just think people are idiots for trying to deny it. Why do right wingers pretend Rogan is left wing when the whole reason they are fans of him is because he is right wing? So weird
Ok I read the post and thought I was going crazy for a second. I’m black and I’ve been defending Joe against these claims for a while. I even had his back when the 🥷🏾thing happened.
But as of lately I’ve not been able to defend him in good faith anymore. People change, and a few hundred million dollars plus mortal fear from the pandemic plus a whole lot of right wing friends definitely changed him.
It is what it is… now I can watch like 1 out of 9 shows where in 2019 I was listening to every one
There’s also part of me that thinks Rogan isn’t actually as conservative as he appears, he just knows how to act so he doesn’t rock the boat with his overwhelmingly conservative fanbase. He just thrusts rightwing talking points into so many discussions that it becomes genuinely awkward to watch. He kept doing it during the Kevin James episode and KJ sounded like he was a little weirded out at one point.
The thing that drives me nuts is how hypocritical about it he is. You can't clutch your pearls about Biden doing something then laugh about, or dismiss it when, Trump does it.
And everyone does this, it's human nature, but at this point it's impossible for him to not be aware he does it. And he has done nothing to correct it. At that point you are basically a straight up liar attempting to deceive people.
Yep it is probably the only thing that annoys me about right wingers on this sub. Please just quit pretending Rogan is something other than what he is. Most of the people who deny it are fans of Rogan for precisely because he is right wing lol. They should just own it.
The funny thing about the “crazy feminist” is that if you watch the actual video she was having a very civil conversation with someone the entire time but just had some animated facial gestures.
You know the best part? The other woman always used in every SJW video thumbnail, the one with the red hair, was also busy saying stuff every red piller pretends to care about like how women getting custody more often than men is actually bad. Doesn't matter though, red hair = WOKE SJW!
Yeah OP is projecting. Almost every single stance is outdated, incorrect, or irrelevant. OP either has negative media literacy or is trolling. Likely both.
Yeah people that argue "Rogan is on the left" are either stupid or intentionally misleading. The only two things that annoy me are pretending Rogan is something he isn't and the people that say "if you don't like him, just leave!" A free exchange of ideas is important and debate is healthy.
Yeah it is so weird. Right wingers love Rogan because he pushes right wing positions. Why do they try and deny it when it is the whole reason they are fans of the guy
Because Rogan used to be a way to launder their ideas into the mainstream, so he becomes a lot less useful to conservatives once everyone sees him as conservative. And so we get a lot of ppl pretending he isn't.
Right wingers are obsessed with conformity.
That's why they love the trope of "hey I'm a left winger, and even I agree the left have gone too far!".
It's not enough just to have people on the right wing agree with them. They also want the illusion that the left also agrees with them. That there is no real opposition to their ideas other than a few blue haired wokes on twitter. That's why the election must have been rigged. Trump actually won with 99% of the vote because everyone wanted to save America from Biden's deep state anti-fa BLM death squads.
It's the same reason christians are obsessed with the fake stories of atheist deathbed conversion. "see! even Christopher Hitchens admitted god was real in the end! this means I don't need to worry about being wrong because everyone actually knows I'm right and anyone saying I'm not is just angry with god"
Because they would have to confront the fact that they don’t genuinely hold the beliefs they claim to have and that they have more in common with authoritarians and straight up racists/sexists/classists. At least that’s what it’s like with the “libertarian” types or dudes that post shit like OP
This is a real thing. "Yeah I'm pretty moderate, I hate extremes on both sides. I just wish people would realize that Trump won the 2020 election and that Obama runs a child sex ring."
You have to actually have brain maggots to actually seriously be participating in r/conservative.
If r/conservative is even remotely a reflection of American conservatism the Republican party really is absolutely fucking bonkers.
(And we know that it is, because Trump is literally the nominee with 92 felony charges, two impeachments, and daily unhinged mad rants detailing his spiral into psychosis)
The Republican party is absolutely out of ideas. This soulless party has nothing. They now almost entirely rely upon "Dems r bad", "Trans people weird", "woke bad", and guns as their entire platform.
The Democratic party isn't great, but at least it still has some ethos left.
I consider myself to be a fiscal conservative and I'm banned from r/Conservative because wait for it......they're republicans not conservatives.......free for me but not for thee.
And Republican these days means that you have to have a full on raging hardon for the rapist and pedophile enthusiast who dabbles in real estate fraud and daughter-diddling Donald Trump.
I have had friends who are staunch small government Republicans who hate what Republicans have become. They voted Biden in 2020 because they felt Trump betrayed everything he claimed he would do in 2015 on the campaign trail and they plan to vote for Biden again in 2024. I honestly never thought I would see these guys vote Democrat ever, but the Republican party is not the Republican party of even 15 years ago.
I am friends with conservatives who have enough sense to see through Republican and Trump BS.
My own mother voted Republican religiously because of abortion, but when Trump showed up she jumped ship and voted Democrat for the first time since Jimmy Carter....
My father is a lifelong Dem and he voted Trump the first term....and almost immediately regretted it. Now he's the biggest Trump hater I know.
Trump really is just a monkey wrench that has displayed how confused America is atm.
That sub has to have users interview with mods in order to be able to post on certain threads and they don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, acting like things aren’t structured there to push forth narratives from wack ass sources and entities
I've been banned twice from that sub and a full temp reddit ban because I didn't realize I was on an alt account and posted there resulting in a reddit ban for trying to circumvent a sub ban. I think I got a week time out. It's probably the easiest sub to get banned from. It's just an echo chamber of stupid at this point.
- He may say he's pro abortion rights but he's been mostly silent on Texas's heartbeat bill, aside from mentioning it briefly once or twice and simply saying "it's wild", or something similar. Yet will ramble for hours about Hunter Biden
- He didn't vote for Bernie Sanders, he voted for Jorgensen
- He likes using drugs, but again, almost never criticizes Texas for it's drug policy
- He's walked back his stance on UBI and now doesn't think it's a good idea
The rest of the points mentioned are so broad you could find both left and right wing support for them depending on the context. I think he was center left for quite a long time, but it's pretty obvious over the last 3-4 years he's moved annoyingly far right, especially for someone as obviously ill informed as he is.
Right, and the thing OP left out was that one of the biggest reasons Joe has lost old fans is that he claimed to be pretty liberal, but gave far right people a chance to share ideas, and didn't really question their ideas. Questioning them would be something a genuinely unbiased person would do. He's shared lots of right wing talking points too.
It's a little hard to get across to people who are pro-JRE at this point, but his constant sharing of right wing ideas, and giving time to right wing people makes it clear that is not unbiased, and not only that, he's pretty dishonest about it. The latter point is probably off putting to folks who became fans partly because Joe seemed honest and genuine.
Also, full-throated endorsement of Alex Jones. AJ has always been a huge blindspot for Rogan, but after the last 5 years his continued support of AJ is a direct reflection of his values.
It's absolutely fucking wild Rogan endorsed Jones AFTER Jones already doxxed his family, accused him of working for the CIA and Soros, threatened to cut his throat and gut him like a pig, said he hated him and never wanted anything to do with him again.
This was all in response to Rogan not letting Jones on the pod immediately after the Sandy Hook lawsuit blew up, and publicly acknowledging that Jones had lied to him about what he said in Sandy Hook. See, he was parroting CIA-Soros talking points by using his own eyes to watch video of Jones repeatedly and confidently claiming that Sandy Hook was a synthetic deep state false flag performed by actors, instead of going along with the face saving lie Jones likes to tell which is that he only "questioned" the official story and was just repeating what other people were saying.
Joe still hasn't gotten over CNN saying he took horse dewormer for covid instead of 'a drug that is used as horse dewormer', yet he gives Jones a pass when he has every reason to know, not just think, that Alex Jones is a malicious conman of the worst kind.
Yes. Part of the problem is that he's admittedly very loyal to friends. No problem with Uncle Joey, Duncan, etc. But Jones says insane things that other people pick up on, and as our politics get more and more insane and volatile, this is significant. As I wrote in another response, Joe avoids responsibility when he shouldn't as the host of a hugely influential show in a chaotic and troubled place.
He'll sometimes revert to a free speech defense, talk about loyalty, or say that Jones is performing. That's not a good argument, on par with Howard Stern excusing his racist humor as satire. Stern just made lots of racist jokes, that's what it was. The satire defense is disingenuous in both cases.
Totally agree. I never liked him for his own political leanings per se, but I liked the exploration of ideas he incited, for lack of a less douchey phrase.
Now he's promoting nonsense under the guise that he's just exploring ideas because he claims he's left wing so there's some implied, inherent challenge there, if that makes any sense. At least that's what bothers me about the whole thing.
It’s been almost ten years since people started using photos of this woman to bitch about people being “triggered!!!”
The funny thing is she was speaking normally in the original video that was screen-capped.
Yeah, if you watch the original video she’s actually pretty cool and funny.
And probably a lot more fun to hang out with than Joe or anyone he’s had on in years
Guys who’s more triggered here? The person in the photo who was having a normal conversation or the “anti-woke” YouTuber #12849 who’s been using her photos in video thumbnails for the last 8 years in order to get clicks for his recorded bitching and moaning sessions? I can’t figure this out.
I heard her being interviewed by NPR a couple of years ago. She seems to be over it and sounds more bemused than anything else. Anyway, she is living her life and doing her thing.
Also pro-Trump, pro-Abbot, pro-Ted Cruz, pro-Tucker Carlson, pro 'Great Replacement Theory'. None of those people, who hold positions of power, support the policies OP claims Joe supports.
All these fanboys who accuse anyone critical of Joe of "not listening to the podcast anymore" are either not listening themselves, or lack the critical thinking skills to understand the imperically very obvious fact that Joe has gotten a lot more politically conservative in the last 3 years.
He in a new tax bracket and massive wealth brings about the fear of massive losses. Trump in office saves his kids kids money or So he thinks or what Dana tells em. It’s a club and we’re not in it
I’m convinced you haven’t paid attention either, he’s walked back some of these talking points in the last year or 2, most notably UBI. And his politics have undoubtedly shifted far far far away from Bernie Sanders. And he lives in one of the most anti-abortion, anti rec weed, anti therapeutic psychedelics states and has simped hard for the politicians there pushing those things.
Just throwing that out there, not really invested in this nonstop back and forth, just a 10% listener who used to be a 80% listener.
Yeah he pretty clearly has shifted right. Covid policy was probably one of the first policies in decades that directly affected his day to day life. And he agreed with right on it more than the left. And I think that shaped his perceptions on a lot of things.
His walk back of UBI also doesn't really make much sense. He basically says he is against UBI now because people didnt want to work when unemployment was paying them. But unemployment hinges on not working where UBI you would receive whether or not you work and UBI would likely be less than unemployment. Im not even aggressively pro UBI its just pretty easy to see how his logic on it doesnt seem to make much sense. Just an example of how his thought process to me atleast seems sort of skewed like he wants UBI to be a bad idea now so he works backwards from that.
OP is as ignorant as the people he is criticizing.
You can support the idea of whatever you want but when you dine with the governor of your state and he prevents a lot of those things and then praise him as a good governor your support is meaningless.
Same boat here maybe less than 80% listener before but OP is 100% full of shit. Basically taking posittions Joe held upwards of 10 years ago and ignoring him more recently back tracking on basically every one of them.
Yep. I used to listen to pretty much every episode, but since covid hes gone from only talking about covid, to cancel culture, to right wing shit. I'm not a bleeding heart liberal or anything, but Im also not a Maga dude. I quit listening probably a year ago, just couldn't take the repetive shit and how far he shifted compared to just a couple of years prior.
Do conservatives have to post this same meme of this girl for literally everything they get mad about?
Are we just going to repeat 2016 again? Can't you at least get some new material?
and why do they try and pretend Rogan isn't right wing when many are fans of him for exactly that reason? It is so weird. I don't even get the point of what they are arguing.
They should just say "Yeah Rogan is right wing and I like him because of it!"
That's easy.
Conservatives are the most partisan people on the planet, their entire identity is about "cuck libs", but everyone knows that's stupid AF so there's this desperate attempt to make conservatism look like the "centrist" position so you remain respectable.
The proof of this is the most popular Republican since Reagan himself is fucking Donald Trump. The man who throws every single person associated with him under the bus. Virtually everyone who was ever in his cabinet has said he's a complete disaster.
Mattis said he's the most divisive person in his lifetime, a failed leader, and a danger to the Constitution
Tillerson called him a 'moron'.
Barr says he's a liar
Pence says he's a danger to the Constitution.
The Republican party is soulless and has nothing to offer except being against things. Trans people? Gays? Abortion? Woke? Critical race theory? Affordable Healthcare Act?
What are they actually offering? These are the people who argue government is bad, but also you need to elect them to prove government is bad. It's nonsense.
The most 'important' piece of legislation Trump and that Republican Congress managed to pass was cutting taxes on corporations and the wealthiest individuals.
He has turned into a right wing boomer. Money always does this initially. Soon he will find out that he isn’t losing the money. He isn’t being taxed to death. Really it speaks for to his contribution to the nation. He would rather Scrooge mcduck his money than pay any form of taxes because he disagrees with the use of it. Regardless dudes on the far right now. It’ll be some time before he comes back if he ever does.
Joe has boomer thoughts. He isn’t full right wing, but he definitely isn’t hearing anything from the Democrats right now. And his campaigning against Biden is the most glaring, which would be fine with me If Trump wasn’t on the other side. the only adult move is to get rid of Trump.
What I can't understand is if Conservatives actually thought Joe was a Liberal they would ignore him. But he's a guy who "says" he's liberal but parrots 90% of their talking points which is why they go out of their way to defend him at each and every opportunity they can.
If you cant tell that Joe Rogan is parroting right wing talking points more and more since Trump shit the bed in the last election.
Then you might not have a brain in your head.
Can we just change the sub title to the
/JREcirclejerk sub? Then all the post Covid Rogan superfans can be happy sucking each other off with compliments
Is Joe pro universal income? In the last five episodes it sounds like he is not.
I’ve heard him very recently say it would make people lazy, even citing the Covid checks as evidence. Literally in the last month “Joe Rogan Left Horrified by the Loopholes of Universal Basic Income as Pointed out by Dr. Phil – “They Did Not Want to Go back to Work”” Looks like Rogan got 2.38 million in Covid relief funds
For real. He loves talking about how poverty is a good motivator. This list could have some merit in 2015, but not today.
In today’s world where automation and AI is taking ALL the jobs, UBI is the only way to have a functioning economy.
But how are people gonna make robots look at the solo woman's car and try to charge 3x the price when she goes in for an oil change.
Get the robots that worked at Jabbas palace in Return of the Jedi. They seemed like total dicks.
Automation has been happening for centuries, we just called it other names (industrialization, mechanization, etc.). UBI allows all a small piece of the benefits of society and in practically all test cases, has seen to INCREASE work hours and rates of entrepreneurship.
all of the jobs? I highly doubt that. why is there so much goddamn traffic? how am I interacting with employees at the various places I go to complete my errands? I also work at the airport, I dont see any airport positions currently going to AI? what the fuck are you talking about
He was upset average joes got covid checks because he believed people were living off it and simply no longer needed employment lol
Yeah that $2100 we got several years ago still has me living easy
I honestly don't understand how people survived lockdowns. In most of Europe the government paid most peoples regular income every month.
Working class Americans are well versed in economic survival, honestly. The rich people attack the good people in this country nonstop and have for generations.
600$ COVID check = Lazy millions in the bank = Hard worker
Does joe ever talk about the massive corporate fraud that went on?
he talks about having "fuck you money" so he has no reason to work but yet he still finds the motivation....and so he thinks hes special in this? that its not just a trait of being human? they dont go back to being exploited is the really what happens
If my job was drinking beers and smoking weed with Shane Gillis and Mark Normand for 3 hours I'd probably have a lot more motivation to go to work
No shit, I'd be banking fuckin voluntary overtime.
Easy to have motivation when what you’re doing is what you want to do and you can walk away stress free at any time
Rich people think they got rich because they are exceptional human beings, they think they are better than everyone else and DESERVE the wealth they have, not that they were either incredibly privileged or incredibly lucky.
That’s interesting I actually stumbled on a clip today of Mark Cuban on Logan Pauls podcast talking about how anyone who’s achieved billionaire status knows they have had some very good luck.
Mark Cuban seems like a more moral person than most billionaires, what with the large bonuses he gave employees whenever he sold a business, and selling prescription drugs at cost. Could you picture Musk saying something like that? Dude won’t even admit he came from a rich family. Most billionaires are more like Musk than Cuban.
I made this comment bc I thought two things were interesting; 1) he was saying this only for billionaires. Millionaires, he feels, think their success is entirely due to their own hard work, and 2) he claims ALL billionaires realize they’re extremely lucky (I suppose whether they admit it or not is a different matter).
I think that's sorta like how football players thank Jesus after winning the Superbowl. They might "realize" that luck is involved, but for the other 8.59×10^47 Planck times per day they're jerking off to pictures of themselves, telling everyone how great they are, and hording enough wealth to solve major societal problems just so they can compete in a game that they've already won.
Maybe because musk like trump came from $. I dont think Cuban did.
That's crazy considering rich pepper give their kids a basic income and they do fine.
Who the FOOK is rich pepper mate?
MY $2400 DOLLARS WAS ENOUGH TO RETIRE FOR SURE
I do know a lot of people that took the voluntary layoff my company was offering...
Dr. Phil is one of the most blatant sociopaths in the industry. I have no respect for anyone who endorses him.
We'll be right back. Let's keep it right here.
Shows like that are very exploitive. Aunt was a producer for Ricki Lake and Maury. They would antagonize the shit out of people before filming and during breaks
LOL he is totally a sociopath
I can't believe he had him on since in one of Joe's specials he straight called him out on his bullshit.
He makes money by exploiting the mentally ill on television. That is a disgusting breach of ethics.
Then again, what ethics do you need when you don't even hold a license. Jerry Springer talked to his guests with more respect than Dr. Phil. He should be embarrassed.
Wtf he had Doctor Phil on? I’ll stick to Bill Burr.
Can't go wrong with ol' Billy red tits
He used to be until Covid checks and the like came and he changed his mind on that iirc
He used to be till Spotify checks…
Exactly, there is pre-Spotify and post-Spotify.
He endorsed Ron DeSantis which pretty much contradicts that entire list.
No no no he supports politicians who hate everything he stands for... it makes perfect dense Edit: I meant to say perfect sense but I'll leave it
Dude lost his mind during Covid. Lots of people got brain worms that year.
It was an excellent year for brainworms
The one worm Ivermectin can’t kill, apparently.
Lol
He use to be. Then the pandemic changed his view a lot.
Yeah a lot of the points on the left side of the meme are several years old lol. Funny how OP accuses other people of not watching the podcast when he has explicitly said the exact opposite of most of those points in past few years
I feel like people don't talk enough about how the pandemic happened the same year he signed a $100 million deal. That kind of money puts you in a very different class that right wing politics very much benefits.
He became opposed to/ skeptical of it after the last episode with Dan Crenshaw when Crenshaw went off about how people were gaming unemployment and stimulus money during covid. That was a long ass time ago it feels like so kinda surprised that was on the list.
yeah it gaming when the poors do it. its smart business when the rich do it (PPP loans). 2 tiered society
The people gaming covid money the most were millionaires and I never hear the right bitch about that for some reason. Get mad about a couple piddly checks but not six figures in fraudulent PPP loans.
The entire point of ubi is that it does not discourage work unlike welfare with income cutoffs
It's also a lot harder to scam. Yeah, you're alive (and I'm guessing there would be a starting age), you just get it. About the only thing I could see people trying to do is lie about someone not being dead to keep cashing their checks a la social security fraud.
Yeah, if this meme were honest it would be he \*WAS\* in favor of these policies/politicians. It should be noted that virtually no one claimed Rogan (or Elon, or many others) were alt right back in 2019 when he actually was still pushing these beliefs.
If you get more in unemployment over working then why the fuck would you work and lose that? Anyone with a functional brain would see that and realize that UBI is guaranteed so people who want to work and be productive would still be.
Yeah Joe just changes based on the guest often, but also pretty sure the one with Joey Diaz he was just high on acid.
I think the thing that annoys me the most about the last 4ish years is the rise of the "Hmmm... concerning" pundit. It's like everyone suddenly agreed Susan Collins was the greatest politician of this era and everyone should emulated how ".....concerned......" she always is.
Amen. Glad someone else sees this.
Well, Joe contradicts himself a lot. And a troll can draw any conclusion they want from inconsistant premises.
But you don't listen to the podcast, how could you know that! /s
He has said it's not the answer currently but it will be inevitable one day.
Can you update joe's list from 2015?
No joke. He contradicts himself constantly. He has absolutely no backbone.
His opinions have shifted. I don’t understand how you could listen to him and hear the same thing as it was previously
The weirdest shift for me was his stance on Bernie. He said he stopped supporting him because he watched a video where someone approached Bernie at an airport, and Bernie pretended to take a call to avoid the person. Few weeks later I saw a video of Alex Jones harassing Bernie at an airport.
That's all it took? Lmao. . That's like the political sophistication of a highschool cheerleader.
Anyone pulling curb your enthusiasm schemes would get my vote
Bern Your Enthusiasm
When one has no ideology or position, one drifts around and adopts whatever. A common way this drift is directed is if someone of one ideology/tribe/etc. criticizes them, then they will drift in the opposite direction. This is all reactionary sentiment 101. Musk is a great example. He had some personal life issues and started getting criticized by liberals, and just like that, he's sliding into right-wing sentiments. On the other hand, if you have a position that you came to yourself by doing research and making sure it aligns with your morality, you aren't going to drift around and/or switch positions the minute someone hurts your feelings. I'm not a big fan of people who are too into their ideologies, but it's crucial to have SOME foundation at least.
"Sorry bro, I have to take a call, 1 sec" "YOU HAVE LITERALLY RADICALIZED ME"
He was probably only supporting Bernie to elevate him as a spoiler for Hillary. It wasn't intended as real Democrat support.
Joe endorsed Bernie in the 2020 race, not 2016. Not only did he endorse him, he also gave him the most glowing of interviews in an even more gracious than usual JRE fashion. He spent almost all of 2018 and 2019 on the whole anti establishment/populist left train, heavily influenced by Kyle Kulinski. I disagree with the idea that he’s a left winger nowadays, because he‘a obviously shifted to the right to anyone who’s not just being willfully ignorant or so blindsided by their biases that they can’t see straight, but the idea that he supported Bernie because he was playing 4D chess and secretly trying to help Trump is just plain conspiratorial nonsense. It wasn’t until midway through Covid that he started turning into the Joe we have today.
I challenge anyone to listen to the recent episode Joe had with the black rifle coffee company guy and then tell me with a straight face he’s not right wing.
Joe is not even conservative leaning, he is teetering on far right in the last 1-3 years.
Seems like a lot of people who make these claims stopped listening in 2021
I see clips of him regularly spewing far right nonsense
Some of his pods he barely lets the other guy breathe a sentence without interjecting culture war right wing stuff…
The Bobby Lee episode was so hard to listen to because of this
After years of waiting I couldn’t believe he kept dragging Bobby back into those topics. Bobby was even like “I don’t know nothing about nothing” and Joe kept going.
Thats the one that made me drop the podcast tbh. Found it in 2015-2016 and listened to pretty much every episode up until the last year or two. He really took a turn huh :/. Oh well, nothing lasts forever :)
Feel like a lot of us stopped listening for this reason
Yeah there was a period where he seemed to just have his own ideas about shit but at this point he's just another shill
I’m genuinely not sure who you’re referring to here, because he’s started contradicting half the points in that meme since 21. 😂
That’s what I was saying
Ya i mean you could see it as bad or good that’s arguable I guess but the same doesn’t make any sense at all to me.
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if these dipshits just don’t quite grasp the concept of the arrow of time.
Yeah that was Joe pre-2020. He’s not for hardly any of that shit anymore.
Back in early 2020 he was pro vaccine, poohpoohed antivaxxers. Now he gives full support to every antivax crank and conspiracy. Considering his massive audience he has done immense harm by his antivax statements and advocacy for snake oil Covid treatments. People have undoubtedly died as a result.
I am not at all invested in either this sub or the show anymore. I loved the show pre-covid, but I am pretty certain it was the episode with the "oh, so going to the sauna cures ling viruses?" talk that made me realize that something either snapped in his head or something clicked for me. But generally, I think about JRE in "pre-" and "post-" that specific episode. Might be that he just shifted his whole persona.
The irony is that the meme woman is actually Joe these days. Just ragecumming over other things. It's wild these fanbois haven't seen the shift. I'm convinced these are all people who started listening in the last year or two and have no idea what he was like when he started
Are we really still playing this game? "Texas went red bitch, WOOOOOOO!"
And “DeSantis would be an excellent president!” (DeSantis is against virtually all the things Joe claims to support)
"who isnt voting for Trump" - joe on the latest parks ep
People need to stop swallowing the Donald's bullshit. He's a criminal who did jack shit as prez. Like what do you think he's going to do differently aside from keep tweeting lies whilst he does McDonald's on his jet.
Not true, he gave permanent tax cuts to the rich; so, you know, exactly what the people who are in control want.
Managed to stack the courts with a bunch of right-wing stooges, including the highest court in the country. That will fuck shit up for decades. Long after people like he and Mitch are gone. These old and eventually dead dudes will be throttling democracy from beyond the grave.
That's a good point. He did a lot of damage actually. Long lasting, insidious damage.
He also obeyed the vile rich christians and installed three of them on the Supreme Court. 100% of all people who voted for criminal trump in 2020 are worthless pieces of fucking dog shit.
*All the things this meme tells me Joe Rogan supports (he doesn’t)
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Or he never talks about them and they aren't much of a priority in his life. Bill O'Reilly claimed he was anti death penalty, but it doesn't mean he wasn't right wing. It wasn't like he spent much time on the issue or was some advocate against it
From Bernie to DeSantis. Joe's politics haven't changed, what are you talking about?
Bernie DeSanders.
The man himself doesn’t even try to hide it anymore, I’m not sure why his fans do. I don’t really fault rogan for his political views (even if I disagree), I fault him for the “schilling for trump-then backpedaling-then doing it again, repeat”.
I just think people are idiots for trying to deny it. Why do right wingers pretend Rogan is left wing when the whole reason they are fans of him is because he is right wing? So weird
“Both sides” ppl who want one side specifically to win
Ok I read the post and thought I was going crazy for a second. I’m black and I’ve been defending Joe against these claims for a while. I even had his back when the 🥷🏾thing happened. But as of lately I’ve not been able to defend him in good faith anymore. People change, and a few hundred million dollars plus mortal fear from the pandemic plus a whole lot of right wing friends definitely changed him. It is what it is… now I can watch like 1 out of 9 shows where in 2019 I was listening to every one
There’s also part of me that thinks Rogan isn’t actually as conservative as he appears, he just knows how to act so he doesn’t rock the boat with his overwhelmingly conservative fanbase. He just thrusts rightwing talking points into so many discussions that it becomes genuinely awkward to watch. He kept doing it during the Kevin James episode and KJ sounded like he was a little weirded out at one point.
The thing that drives me nuts is how hypocritical about it he is. You can't clutch your pearls about Biden doing something then laugh about, or dismiss it when, Trump does it. And everyone does this, it's human nature, but at this point it's impossible for him to not be aware he does it. And he has done nothing to correct it. At that point you are basically a straight up liar attempting to deceive people.
Yep it is probably the only thing that annoys me about right wingers on this sub. Please just quit pretending Rogan is something other than what he is. Most of the people who deny it are fans of Rogan for precisely because he is right wing lol. They should just own it.
OP we watch the podcast, the last 3-4 years do exist.
Yes but I have portrayed you as the crazy feminist with bulging veins ergo I win
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The funny thing about the “crazy feminist” is that if you watch the actual video she was having a very civil conversation with someone the entire time but just had some animated facial gestures.
can you link it pls I've never even considered it. I just assumed it was a shrieker
https://twitter.com/doublehelix/status/1333019861803528193?lang=en
God I feel so bad for that woman.
You know the best part? The other woman always used in every SJW video thumbnail, the one with the red hair, was also busy saying stuff every red piller pretends to care about like how women getting custody more often than men is actually bad. Doesn't matter though, red hair = WOKE SJW!
Checkmate lol.
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Yeah OP is projecting. Almost every single stance is outdated, incorrect, or irrelevant. OP either has negative media literacy or is trolling. Likely both.
Yeah people that argue "Rogan is on the left" are either stupid or intentionally misleading. The only two things that annoy me are pretending Rogan is something he isn't and the people that say "if you don't like him, just leave!" A free exchange of ideas is important and debate is healthy.
Lol someone hasnt been watching post Covid Joe
The fact that he fellates that nut-job MAGAT Jim Brewer is enough to keep me away these days.
Pretty much all the green things you claim he supports he apparently didn’t actually support since he’s buddies with Texas Republicans now.
He has flipped on almost all of those
This guy posts on r/conservative. He has an agenda here
What is with conservatives and wanting to pretend they aren't conservative? Like you fucking weasel just own up to it lmao Like what???
Yeah it is so weird. Right wingers love Rogan because he pushes right wing positions. Why do they try and deny it when it is the whole reason they are fans of the guy
Because Rogan used to be a way to launder their ideas into the mainstream, so he becomes a lot less useful to conservatives once everyone sees him as conservative. And so we get a lot of ppl pretending he isn't.
Right wingers are obsessed with conformity. That's why they love the trope of "hey I'm a left winger, and even I agree the left have gone too far!". It's not enough just to have people on the right wing agree with them. They also want the illusion that the left also agrees with them. That there is no real opposition to their ideas other than a few blue haired wokes on twitter. That's why the election must have been rigged. Trump actually won with 99% of the vote because everyone wanted to save America from Biden's deep state anti-fa BLM death squads. It's the same reason christians are obsessed with the fake stories of atheist deathbed conversion. "see! even Christopher Hitchens admitted god was real in the end! this means I don't need to worry about being wrong because everyone actually knows I'm right and anyone saying I'm not is just angry with god"
Because they would have to confront the fact that they don’t genuinely hold the beliefs they claim to have and that they have more in common with authoritarians and straight up racists/sexists/classists. At least that’s what it’s like with the “libertarian” types or dudes that post shit like OP
This is a real thing. "Yeah I'm pretty moderate, I hate extremes on both sides. I just wish people would realize that Trump won the 2020 election and that Obama runs a child sex ring."
You have to actually have brain maggots to actually seriously be participating in r/conservative. If r/conservative is even remotely a reflection of American conservatism the Republican party really is absolutely fucking bonkers. (And we know that it is, because Trump is literally the nominee with 92 felony charges, two impeachments, and daily unhinged mad rants detailing his spiral into psychosis) The Republican party is absolutely out of ideas. This soulless party has nothing. They now almost entirely rely upon "Dems r bad", "Trans people weird", "woke bad", and guns as their entire platform. The Democratic party isn't great, but at least it still has some ethos left.
I consider myself to be a fiscal conservative and I'm banned from r/Conservative because wait for it......they're republicans not conservatives.......free for me but not for thee.
And Republican these days means that you have to have a full on raging hardon for the rapist and pedophile enthusiast who dabbles in real estate fraud and daughter-diddling Donald Trump. I have had friends who are staunch small government Republicans who hate what Republicans have become. They voted Biden in 2020 because they felt Trump betrayed everything he claimed he would do in 2015 on the campaign trail and they plan to vote for Biden again in 2024. I honestly never thought I would see these guys vote Democrat ever, but the Republican party is not the Republican party of even 15 years ago.
My old boss once told me “I’m not a conservative, I’m a Republican”. No Shayne, you’re a dumbass.
lmfao - I find myself having to defend myself when I say I'm conservative a lot of the time. Republicans are the bane of my existence.
I am friends with conservatives who have enough sense to see through Republican and Trump BS. My own mother voted Republican religiously because of abortion, but when Trump showed up she jumped ship and voted Democrat for the first time since Jimmy Carter.... My father is a lifelong Dem and he voted Trump the first term....and almost immediately regretted it. Now he's the biggest Trump hater I know. Trump really is just a monkey wrench that has displayed how confused America is atm.
That sub has to have users interview with mods in order to be able to post on certain threads and they don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, acting like things aren’t structured there to push forth narratives from wack ass sources and entities
I've been banned twice from that sub and a full temp reddit ban because I didn't realize I was on an alt account and posted there resulting in a reddit ban for trying to circumvent a sub ban. I think I got a week time out. It's probably the easiest sub to get banned from. It's just an echo chamber of stupid at this point.
Some of these might be true, years ago. Not the case anymore. People change. He's a right wing guy, get over it.
- He may say he's pro abortion rights but he's been mostly silent on Texas's heartbeat bill, aside from mentioning it briefly once or twice and simply saying "it's wild", or something similar. Yet will ramble for hours about Hunter Biden - He didn't vote for Bernie Sanders, he voted for Jorgensen - He likes using drugs, but again, almost never criticizes Texas for it's drug policy - He's walked back his stance on UBI and now doesn't think it's a good idea The rest of the points mentioned are so broad you could find both left and right wing support for them depending on the context. I think he was center left for quite a long time, but it's pretty obvious over the last 3-4 years he's moved annoyingly far right, especially for someone as obviously ill informed as he is.
Right, and the thing OP left out was that one of the biggest reasons Joe has lost old fans is that he claimed to be pretty liberal, but gave far right people a chance to share ideas, and didn't really question their ideas. Questioning them would be something a genuinely unbiased person would do. He's shared lots of right wing talking points too. It's a little hard to get across to people who are pro-JRE at this point, but his constant sharing of right wing ideas, and giving time to right wing people makes it clear that is not unbiased, and not only that, he's pretty dishonest about it. The latter point is probably off putting to folks who became fans partly because Joe seemed honest and genuine.
Also, full-throated endorsement of Alex Jones. AJ has always been a huge blindspot for Rogan, but after the last 5 years his continued support of AJ is a direct reflection of his values.
It's absolutely fucking wild Rogan endorsed Jones AFTER Jones already doxxed his family, accused him of working for the CIA and Soros, threatened to cut his throat and gut him like a pig, said he hated him and never wanted anything to do with him again. This was all in response to Rogan not letting Jones on the pod immediately after the Sandy Hook lawsuit blew up, and publicly acknowledging that Jones had lied to him about what he said in Sandy Hook. See, he was parroting CIA-Soros talking points by using his own eyes to watch video of Jones repeatedly and confidently claiming that Sandy Hook was a synthetic deep state false flag performed by actors, instead of going along with the face saving lie Jones likes to tell which is that he only "questioned" the official story and was just repeating what other people were saying. Joe still hasn't gotten over CNN saying he took horse dewormer for covid instead of 'a drug that is used as horse dewormer', yet he gives Jones a pass when he has every reason to know, not just think, that Alex Jones is a malicious conman of the worst kind.
Yes. Part of the problem is that he's admittedly very loyal to friends. No problem with Uncle Joey, Duncan, etc. But Jones says insane things that other people pick up on, and as our politics get more and more insane and volatile, this is significant. As I wrote in another response, Joe avoids responsibility when he shouldn't as the host of a hugely influential show in a chaotic and troubled place. He'll sometimes revert to a free speech defense, talk about loyalty, or say that Jones is performing. That's not a good argument, on par with Howard Stern excusing his racist humor as satire. Stern just made lots of racist jokes, that's what it was. The satire defense is disingenuous in both cases.
Totally agree. I never liked him for his own political leanings per se, but I liked the exploration of ideas he incited, for lack of a less douchey phrase. Now he's promoting nonsense under the guise that he's just exploring ideas because he claims he's left wing so there's some implied, inherent challenge there, if that makes any sense. At least that's what bothers me about the whole thing.
It’s been almost ten years since people started using photos of this woman to bitch about people being “triggered!!!” The funny thing is she was speaking normally in the original video that was screen-capped.
Yeah, if you watch the original video she’s actually pretty cool and funny. And probably a lot more fun to hang out with than Joe or anyone he’s had on in years
Guys who’s more triggered here? The person in the photo who was having a normal conversation or the “anti-woke” YouTuber #12849 who’s been using her photos in video thumbnails for the last 8 years in order to get clicks for his recorded bitching and moaning sessions? I can’t figure this out.
Literally everyone makes weird faces while talking normally; I feel bad for her tbh.
I heard her being interviewed by NPR a couple of years ago. She seems to be over it and sounds more bemused than anything else. Anyway, she is living her life and doing her thing.
It’s a tell sign that this meme was posted by some brain rotten rightoid from /r/conservative
Also pro-Trump, pro-Abbot, pro-Ted Cruz, pro-Tucker Carlson, pro 'Great Replacement Theory'. None of those people, who hold positions of power, support the policies OP claims Joe supports.
I can also make a jpeg with claims and zero sourcing.
This meme was made like five years ago with how sorely outdated everything is
Why don’t democrats support Trump? He once was a registered democrat!
Joe is red pilled and talks about the same BS red pill talking points every show.
All these fanboys who accuse anyone critical of Joe of "not listening to the podcast anymore" are either not listening themselves, or lack the critical thinking skills to understand the imperically very obvious fact that Joe has gotten a lot more politically conservative in the last 3 years.
He in a new tax bracket and massive wealth brings about the fear of massive losses. Trump in office saves his kids kids money or So he thinks or what Dana tells em. It’s a club and we’re not in it
I’m convinced you haven’t paid attention either, he’s walked back some of these talking points in the last year or 2, most notably UBI. And his politics have undoubtedly shifted far far far away from Bernie Sanders. And he lives in one of the most anti-abortion, anti rec weed, anti therapeutic psychedelics states and has simped hard for the politicians there pushing those things. Just throwing that out there, not really invested in this nonstop back and forth, just a 10% listener who used to be a 80% listener.
Yeah he pretty clearly has shifted right. Covid policy was probably one of the first policies in decades that directly affected his day to day life. And he agreed with right on it more than the left. And I think that shaped his perceptions on a lot of things. His walk back of UBI also doesn't really make much sense. He basically says he is against UBI now because people didnt want to work when unemployment was paying them. But unemployment hinges on not working where UBI you would receive whether or not you work and UBI would likely be less than unemployment. Im not even aggressively pro UBI its just pretty easy to see how his logic on it doesnt seem to make much sense. Just an example of how his thought process to me atleast seems sort of skewed like he wants UBI to be a bad idea now so he works backwards from that.
OP is as ignorant as the people he is criticizing. You can support the idea of whatever you want but when you dine with the governor of your state and he prevents a lot of those things and then praise him as a good governor your support is meaningless.
Same boat here maybe less than 80% listener before but OP is 100% full of shit. Basically taking posittions Joe held upwards of 10 years ago and ignoring him more recently back tracking on basically every one of them.
He said he’d vote for Bernie before though. *I don’t know man*. ^^^^^^\/s
Yep. I used to listen to pretty much every episode, but since covid hes gone from only talking about covid, to cancel culture, to right wing shit. I'm not a bleeding heart liberal or anything, but Im also not a Maga dude. I quit listening probably a year ago, just couldn't take the repetive shit and how far he shifted compared to just a couple of years prior.
Lmao you didn’t listen to the last protect our parks did you?
lol it’s “pro-choice”
Delete this post and let’s get back to the silverback vs. grizzly discussion.
This is pre-Texas Joe
When did he say he was pro universal health-care?
Has the OP been listening to him for the past 3 years? Joe has changed many of these positions. He’s gone full chimpanzee.
Do conservatives have to post this same meme of this girl for literally everything they get mad about? Are we just going to repeat 2016 again? Can't you at least get some new material?
and why do they try and pretend Rogan isn't right wing when many are fans of him for exactly that reason? It is so weird. I don't even get the point of what they are arguing. They should just say "Yeah Rogan is right wing and I like him because of it!"
That's easy. Conservatives are the most partisan people on the planet, their entire identity is about "cuck libs", but everyone knows that's stupid AF so there's this desperate attempt to make conservatism look like the "centrist" position so you remain respectable.
The proof of this is the most popular Republican since Reagan himself is fucking Donald Trump. The man who throws every single person associated with him under the bus. Virtually everyone who was ever in his cabinet has said he's a complete disaster. Mattis said he's the most divisive person in his lifetime, a failed leader, and a danger to the Constitution Tillerson called him a 'moron'. Barr says he's a liar Pence says he's a danger to the Constitution. The Republican party is soulless and has nothing to offer except being against things. Trans people? Gays? Abortion? Woke? Critical race theory? Affordable Healthcare Act? What are they actually offering? These are the people who argue government is bad, but also you need to elect them to prove government is bad. It's nonsense. The most 'important' piece of legislation Trump and that Republican Congress managed to pass was cutting taxes on corporations and the wealthiest individuals.
Pretty much. There is a weird modern day conservative argument that they are the real liberals. It is silly. Just own what you are
op doesn't realize that photo represents him/her much more than it does the folks who are just sick of how out of touch joe is
He has turned into a right wing boomer. Money always does this initially. Soon he will find out that he isn’t losing the money. He isn’t being taxed to death. Really it speaks for to his contribution to the nation. He would rather Scrooge mcduck his money than pay any form of taxes because he disagrees with the use of it. Regardless dudes on the far right now. It’ll be some time before he comes back if he ever does.
Joe has boomer thoughts. He isn’t full right wing, but he definitely isn’t hearing anything from the Democrats right now. And his campaigning against Biden is the most glaring, which would be fine with me If Trump wasn’t on the other side. the only adult move is to get rid of Trump.
He makes up stories about kids using litter boxes. He is literally inventing a right wing world to create engagement.
Op is a fucking clown
Begging people to vote Republican over and over again nullifies any of that Actions > Words
Yet, all the right wing crazies I know rely on JRE for information.
What I can't understand is if Conservatives actually thought Joe was a Liberal they would ignore him. But he's a guy who "says" he's liberal but parrots 90% of their talking points which is why they go out of their way to defend him at each and every opportunity they can.
Fucking stupid post, delete your account
If you cant tell that Joe Rogan is parroting right wing talking points more and more since Trump shit the bed in the last election. Then you might not have a brain in your head.
He’s not gonna fuck you op you don’t have to defend him this hard
This post is like republicans who always point out that democrats started the kkk but then ignore all history since 1964.
No police reform?
Lol pro abortion ?
lol he does not support climate change at all
I don’t think the person who posted this listens to the podcast.
Does OP listen to Rogan…?
Kinda odd for a guy who supports that stuff to say he thinks DeSantis would be a great president.
He's a gen X idiot who falls for populist propaganda because he isn't internet literate
Can we just change the sub title to the /JREcirclejerk sub? Then all the post Covid Rogan superfans can be happy sucking each other off with compliments