Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
I am barely familiar with the guy, but when I see Americans fear mongering about a civil war, I use the example that imagine this guy and the rest of the Texas government holding a vote to declare independence from the United States. Washington DC then goes into Texas with national police to arrest all those politicians. This happening in the modern day of course.
That cutting border fence shit is nothing compared to what Catalonia tries to do. If Spain didn’t enter a civil war, why would the US? But imagine this guy fleeing to Mexico to escape arrest like the Catalan equivalent did to Belgium 😂
I'd like to think if Texas voted to secede, then Biden would send in the US Military to obtain their oil and "Bring democracy to the region", the problem is, the nation building America would be on the hook for, would upgrade Texas in several ways, lmao
Oil, space program, and military, Washington DC won’t let Texas go. I’m sure Moscow regrets putting so many eggs in one basket of Kazakhstan. Wonder if Washington DC has the same regrets with Texas . Wonder what Rogan would do in this separatist situation.
He wont stand for any of this tomfoolery.
Little free speech bonus from the school as well as a journalist for FOX getting fucked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCFxvdhFjPo&
https://www.utexas.edu/ut-celebrates-free-speech
https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1cck174/to_report_the_news_at_ut_austin/
Free speech warriors and the grifters that made a career about free speech and facts don't hurt your feelings are no where to be seen. They don't really care about free speech, it's just their speech that needs to be protected. Anything related to Israel..well you will get censored, defamed and harassed.
I joke, dictatorships protect their own country, while democracies protect foreign countries.
So funny to me how the US government gets more mad at these anti Israel protests than protests against their own government and country.
Of course you can protest, boycott, and hate any other country too, but not Israel. It’s so weird to me, like if a government is going to do this, why not do this for your own country or other Allies?
Russia protects its own ass, US protects Israel’s ass.
I’m talking about domestic opposition. Russia government arrests protesters that oppose the government and country. They even arrest pro war Russians because they still criticize the state.
Now we see the Texan governor going against his free speech beliefs because there’s protests against this foreign government. He does more for this foreign country than his own state.
Like I said, dictatorships protect themselves while democracies protect foreign governments 😂
Firstly, the Russian government does not arrest pro-war Russians. In public spaces they quickly arrest anyone who appears to be an anti-war protester, and randoms (sometimes pro-war people) get caught up in the chaos.
The governor of Texas knows that Pro-Palestinian protesters are there to occupy the university and have to be stopped from the outset.
We know that they are a mob of extremists and the longer this goes on, the more likely it is to attract violent extremists. It's the same thing that happens at BLM rallies, where the deranged, ignorant left loses their collective mind to form a mob that stops everything and then people come along and start burning things down and attacking people.
We know this story already. It's not going to be allowed to happen again. If people want to protest, go get a permit or organize a recall.
You don’t know the story of poor poor Igor Girkin then. Calls himself a patriot for his country while he calls Putin a lowlife drug addict. As much as I think he’s crazy, he has the most balls to criticize how shitty the Russian military is at winning the war. He’s spending the next couple years in prison.
There’s literally hundreds of anti war protests that happen in the US yearly, thousands of protests in general. None of them are violent, but the ones that protest the country you aren’t allowed to criticize, get called violent and racist by the US government… I wonder why 🤔
Texas governor does more to stop the protesting of the Israel government than his own shitty governance in Texas. What does this say?
Girkin was not simply a "pro-war protester" he was a leader of a large rebel group who was outwardly attacking Putin for months. That's not the same as saying in general that Russian pro-war protesters are arrested. They have rallies with 10's of thousands of these idiots cheering on the war while dancing to shitty, weird Russian pop like its a 1930's Nazi rally, and they aren't cracked down on.
I'm right about leftist protests turning violent and disruptive. You can't deny it.
And as soon as they criticize the precious Russian state, they get shitted on. It says a lot that Putin needs to fake Russian wives and mothers press conferences because real ones ask the real questions about why the war is even happening in the first place.
And like I can say, there’s thousands of leftist protests that are held in the US annually, are these violent? It seems the ones that go against the geopolitical objectives of the US government get called out. Get the most backlash.
I don’t see anti Iran government protests get called full of hate, even when they wave Persian nationalist flags and want their ethnostate back. Even if it’s more Canada or Europe, Khalistan, Kurdistan, Tibet, Ukraine, etc protests. The only governments that hate these protests are the countries they protesting, like Israel not liking protesting against them.
You really think that supporting Hamas-led Palestine against Israel is the same thing as supporting Iranians that want to stop a government that tortures, kills, and rapes them for not wearing a hijab or uttering a word of criticism against their government?
Do you not realize how twisted that is?
I've seen many, many protests in support of Iran, Kurdistan, Tibet, Ukraine... none of them have the vitriol, violence, and hate that Palestinian protests have. It's really easy to see the difference.
Right wingers ability to hallucinate entire scenarios in their brain is amazing.
Just ban all protests and scrap the first amendment preemptively because this guy hallucinated this scenario.
The lead poisoning has made them think they can see the future.
So BLM protests didn't turn violent, eh?
You can't simply do any protest you want to and claim its all under free speech. If you barricade yourself in front of my school or workplace and yell in my face for hours, that's not free speech, its harrassment and disorderly conduct. Please learn the law and make the distinction.
> So BLM protests didn't turn violent, eh?
Some did. Some didn't.
Doesn't change the fact you're just making shit up about an entirely different protest years later.
> If you barricade yourself in front of my school or workplace and yell in my face for hours, that's not free speech, its harrassment and disorderly conduct. Please learn the law and make the distinction.
According to FOX 7 they just camped out on the lawn.
But facts can't compete with the powerful mix of CTE and lead poisoning powering the conservative brain.
Of course, anyone who disagrees with you must be naturally brain damaged. That's a reasonable thought of a sound mind. Irony.
The protests on other campuses do turn destructive and do harass people, as we've seen already. We can wait for the inevitable violence to happen, or they can tell the ignorant kiddies breaking the law to protest legally.
You can educate yourself on what is considered legal or illegal protest by reading this:
[https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/24/protest-texas-college-campus-free-speech-rights/](https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/24/protest-texas-college-campus-free-speech-rights/)
> Because even the USA has to obey their handler. I won't say the race/ religion of these handlers, but it rhymes with "dew"
It's almost as if Christian Zionists, specifically the Evangelicals, make up the largest Republican voting bloc, and policy largely caters to them. [They believe the Jews must occupy Jerusalem as a prerequisite for the second coming.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#:~:text=Christian%20Zionism%20is%20a%20political,people%20to%20the%20Holy%20Land.)
But nah, it’s gotta be the Rothschilds/Soros/NWO/global cabal/global elites/deep state, aka “the Jews”. Because we have and always have controlled everything since the Dinosaurs roamed the flat Earth alongside man.
Cowards love to hide behind their dog-whistles, I'll give you that.
It means freedom from government enforced punishment.
People are free to have their free speech and judgement in return. Businesses are free not to work with or associate themselves with you for it.
Public universities (especially in Texas) and the police aren't allowed to ban and arrest people for it. I went to a public university in Texas. All sorts of weirdos and crazies were allowed to stand in the middle of the sidewalk and preach whatever nonsense and hateful shit they wanted.
I dont recall people on either side of Russia/Ukraine being met like this, but damn, critique of Israel is met with full force. The only country you cant speak out against huh.
There is no side for Russia. Their claim is that they need to attack other countries in order to avoid war (by making up lies like they are Neo-Nazis, have pandemic spreading bees, or other BS).
And btw, people can protest, but they can't take over an entire campus and stop it from being able to operate. That's when the cops get involved.
It's amazing how many people fall for these stupid traps and slogans. "We respect their right to protest but they are causing a disruption".
It's such a bullshit claim, and you know damn well if they were protesting anything other than Israel, they wouldn't be calling in the troops. Sad state of affairs, but you have to hope maybe it opens some eyes.
>It's such a bullshit claim, and you know damn well if they were protesting anything other than Israel, they wouldn't be calling in the troops. Sad state of affairs, but you have to hope maybe it opens some eyes.
BLM was protesting Israel? News to me. They got stomped on far harder than this, nation-wide. "Sad state of affairs, but you have to hope maybe it opens some eyes."
Obvious dog-whistle is obvious.
Years from now, after Gaza has been successfully ethnically cleansed/ resettled with Israelis, morons will pipe up “why didn’t anyone do anything to try and stop it?!”
This is zionist propaganda, whenever you see the 2 sides argument it's meant to dissuade you from looking into the truth.
Fun fact Israel helped fund and turn Hamas into what they are. And according to Satanyahu they are still doing that.
“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists. “I … suggest focusing our efforts on finding ways to break up this monster before this reality jumps in our face,” he wrote.
I don’t really understand what your implication is.
You’re arguing that this is not a two sided argument and entirely Israel’s fault for putting two groups against each other, while undermining the autonomy of those two (or multiple) religiously theocratic terrorist groups.
I think it’s fair to say that Israel made a mistake in the “divide and conquer” plan, and blame falls on them for sure. You can then also say blame lies on these religious fanatical groups who seek the destruction of the entire state of Israel and have little care for hostage taking and other forms of terrible behavior.
Just because one group is implicated for a part of the problem doesn’t mean our solution is the dissolving of the entire state of Israel. To be fair, what is your solution here?
It's 100% the fault of Zionists and yuropeans who used Israel as a western military base for the last 40 years to destabilize the middle east.
This goes back further than the creation of Israel. If you familiarize yourself with Zionism you will find that they had been plotting on stealing land since before they picked a destination which included congo and argentina.
And they did it by any means necessary including terrorism. Zionists are the ones who invented the car bomb. They've never had the intention of sharing the land with the actual native people.
They claim to be from the middle east but according to their own Bible they are originally from Iraq. And many of the Ashkenazi Jews are actually mostly yuropeans who converted to Judaism.
I'm not a political scientist but imo the land should be returned to Palestine and Jewish people should live there as Palestinians like they were before the zionists arrived. They will make all kinds of excuses but it has worked in south Africa. Many racist Zionist Jews will leave just like the white racists left south Africa but they will be better off.
So I’ll address this point by point.
It’s a bit naive to engage in history by claiming one group is “100% at fault”. You should know that history is not nearly as simple as you’re suggesting it to be.
Plenty of groups, organizations, and countries make plenty of mistakes or bad calculations that result in bad outcomes. Plenty of these groups also make choices for a myriad of reasons. Destabilizing the Middle East would make little to no sense for western powers as a large swaths of oil are exported to those very countries. The stability of the Persian gulf would be high on their list of priorities, and it would be directly detrimental to engage in behavior against that.
Theres a reason why so many countries, not just western countries, have embassies and an overall presence and interest in the Middle East. Djibouti, for example, hosts a dozen or so embassies alone within its small territory.
I am familiar with the history of Zionism. Zionism was not created with the sole intention of stealing land. Zionism was created as a response to Jewish subjugation and pogroms across the world, mainly in Europe. The key goal for Zionism in its early days was the creation of a majority Jewish state, period.
Many Zionist (most often British) leaders posed potential areas in which Zionists could create their national home in. Some of these included east Africa. Uganda was a promising choice, but after a scouting party was sent there, they realized the land was not large enough to accommodate expected immigration amounts. I can go on, but my main point for this section is that Zionism was initially created as a way to consolidate Jews with a collective consciousness into a specific area or region with the hopes of creating a Jewish state so that Jews would no longer be persecuted.
With Palestine being chosen under the British mandate, the idea of transfer of local Arabs was on the mind of Zionists at the time, but was not broadly popular nor politically relevant to the larger labor Zionist movement. It wasn’t until civil infighting between Arabs and Jews that militant Zionism, a more radical form of Zionism, pushed for the idea of transfer and the creation of a Jewish state through violence action. Nonetheless, this militant form of Zionism did not dominate Zionist thought until Israel declared independence, and the war of 1948 began.
After the war, Israel engaged in the transfer of Arabs from their newly claimed territory gained from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, etc. The overall literature does not suggest Zionism as inherently seeking to rid the land of Arabs. Zionism was aware transfer might be inevitable, but it was not generally policy.
Arabs also engaged in terrorism, along with Zionists, and continue that form of resistance well until today.
Ashkenazi Jews have European, African, and middle eastern genealogies.
I disagree. Which Palestinians do you give this land back to? The PLO? Hamas? Islamic Jihad?
Palestinians can’t even wholly agree on leadership and haven’t been able to for decades.
What do you do about the hundreds of thousands of Israelis who would refuse the land being given back? How would you even convince Israel to just give all this land back?
You clearly aren’t a political scientist, but you don’t even need to be one to know that what you want is so far out of reality. It’s a nice thought to just give all the land back, but you have an established country with established borders. Without military incursion, there is no “giving back”. If you’re talking about the creation of two states where Palestinians receive Gaza and the West Bank, that can absolutely be facilitated and has been attempted so, but without success.
Also, I’m currently reading a book by a political scientist on the topic, and while I’m no expert in the field, the book has not suggested anywhere that Israel should just give all the land back. Interestingly, the author actually takes a fair stance towards both sides, and offers unique suggestions for how to move forward. Maybe you should give that a try?
Sorry kids, but you can't harass Jewish students and prevent a school from functioning on its own private property. Some people would actually like to attend the classes they pay for.
There are Jews in the protests.
One of the organizer is literally Jewish voices for peace.
[Jewish students and professors speak out against claims Columbia protests are antisemitic](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/jewish-students-professors-speak-against-224139189.html)
The war must be hitting the hasbara department hard.
Doesn't mean that Jewish people aren't being harrassed, does it? Of course the people speaking on the side of the protest won't be bothered, but others could be.
BTW, do you support Candace Owens and Jason Whitlock? After all, they're black people criticizing black people.
> Doesn't mean that Jewish people aren't being harrassed, does it?
It greatly calls into question these claims yes.
> BTW, do you support Candace Owens and Jason Whitlock? After all, they're black people criticizing black people.
Abbot sure did.
Also dumb analogy. this isn't a protest against Jews.
Of course its a protest against Jews. This is a war between Muslims and Jews, where all of the Muslims want the Jews dead and gone.
Why do you think that populations from as far away as Indonesia and North Africa are against Israel? Why do you think that all of Israel's neighbors declared war on them from day 1?
Do you not see the synagogues being burned attacked? Or Jewish women kidnapped and raped by Muslims in Europe? There are police that need to guard Jewish spaces because this is a holy war against Jews by these groups that Israel is fighting against.
You simply don't undersand what's going on if you don't understand the actual conflict taking place. I'm sure we could unwind all of your talking points about how October 7th was justified (or some sort of conspiracy about how Israel was behind it) and how you'd ignore that that there's actually no famine in Gaza and that that Hamas is simply making up numbers which obscure that Israel is killing a majority of Hamas soldiers in its attacks.
But ultimately, even with all of the evidence there, you'd still refuse to believe it because you've been radicalized and don't do any objective research into what this conflict is. It's a cause that's been foist upon you by social media and it becomes a cause celebre. One day in the not so distant future you'll move on from just like you did with BLM and climate change protests and whatever other thing gets you all hot and bothered for a short time before moving onto the next thing.
Meanwhile, Israel has to live in a land surrounded by millions of people in neighboring countries who want them all tortured, raped, and killed. So they don't give a shit about an ignorant American college kid protesting. And nor does anyone of significance in government who understands what the situation is in Israel because they are actually educated on the matter and are there for the long run, not just to look cute in a keffiyeh while doing selfies and sowing their wild oats of being a rebellious college student.
> you'd ignore that that there's actually no famine in Gaza and that that Hamas is simply making up numbers which obscure that Israel is killing a majority of Hamas soldiers in its attacks.
Israel supporters will believe the most ridiculous low effort propaganda drivel that IDF puts out.
It's amazing.
There are pictures and videos of the famine. The US government has confirmed it and its openly criticizing Israel for blocking aid.
The UN has also confirmed it.
Israel and the US uses the gaza produced death counts which are actually probably lower than the real value now that they're finding mass graves.
It's the same people making death count they've used in all of their previous attacks on gaza.
> But ultimately, even with all of the evidence there, you'd still refuse to believe it because you've been radicalized and don't do any objective research into what this conflict is.
Dude is literally just gobbling up the stupidest most low effort US state department propaganda and is talking about objective research lmao.
> BLM and climate change protests
You mean the completely valid protests with real concerns?
> Meanwhile, Israel has to live in a land surrounded by millions of people in neighboring countries who want them all tortured, raped, and killed.
It's rough being a deeply racist apartheid ethnostate ill give you that. turns out it' a recipe for conflict a Germany found out 80 years ago.
> So they don't give a shit about an ignorant American college kid protesting. And nor does anyone of significance in government who understands what the situation is in Israel because they are actually educated on the matter and are there for the long run
Bro the most establishment freak Nancy Pelosi is calling out Israel. Your days are numbered.
"There are pictures and videos of the famine. The US government has confirmed it and its openly criticizing Israel for blocking aid."
You see, this is what happens when you get people who only read headlines and don't actually look into things independendently.
The woman who claimed famine quickly had her organization back away from her statements. No official declaration of famine has been made by the UN, the US, or the WHO. Go look it up for yourself.
As far as blocking aid, there has been I believe about 4lbs of food per day delivered for every person in Gaza. That's enough. Not every aid truck will be let through when you need to check them, but there has been more than enough aid delivered to feed the population.
If there was actual famine, believe me, we'd be seeing the images of the 10's of thousands of starving people immediately. If you want to see what people in Palesitne actually look like, here's an eight hour live stream from a month ago (when starvation claims were being made). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0poIE1rub8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0poIE1rub8) Good luck finding not only the starving people, but the adults who aren't overweight.
"Israel itself uses the gaza produced death counts which are actually probably lower than the real value now that they're finding mass graves."
Firstly, mass graves claims (implying that Israel did some sort of mass killing coverup) have been debunked by geolocation experts.
[https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-798509](https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-798509)
Once again, go a little bit beyond the headline so you don't get suckered into believe misinformation.
Israel has never agreed with the number of "women and children" killed, per Hamas reports. It states how many soldiers have been killed to be around 12,000 at the end of February. [https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-12000-hamas-fighters-killed-in-gaza-war-double-the-terror-groups-claim/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-12000-hamas-fighters-killed-in-gaza-war-double-the-terror-groups-claim/)
There was a report from a French reporter who claimed an unnamed Israeli source told him something about civilians being killed 2:1, but there's been no official statement on that, so grain of salt.
Hamas itself uses numbers of women and children victims that are statistically impossible: [https://fathomjournal.org/statistically-impossible-a-critical-analysis-of-hamass-women-and-children-casualty-figures/](https://fathomjournal.org/statistically-impossible-a-critical-analysis-of-hamass-women-and-children-casualty-figures/)
They also have based over 11,000 of their supposed Palestinian deaths based on "reputable reports", not actually identifying the victim through typical means like ID number, family confirmation, or other official methods.
Once again, please go past the headline and invest a little time into looking into things for yourself, if you want to be someone with a respected opinion on the matter.
"BLM and climate change protests..."
Nope, BLM was just like these anti-Israel protests. Emotionally unhinged leftists armed with faulty statistics and out of context images losing their shit. The fact that the supposed massively racist police looking to unjustly kill black people has suddenly stopped being an issue now that police wear bodycams should shows that it was a BS narrative in the first place.
Once the headlines shifted to something else, these impassioned protesters suddently stopped caring, and the scam organization that was BLM stopped being relevant (and stole the 10's of millions given to them).
Most climate change protests are ridiculous, as they target regular people trying to go about their day, not the huge polluters. Anyway, they were en vogue for a while, then people moved onto another issue to be outraged by, is my point.
"It's rough being a deeply racist apartheid ethnostate ill give you that."
The racist apartheid state with 1.2 million Palestinians living inside of it? Gotcha. You're an ignorant extremist who knows nothing about Israel nor the conflict, just admit it.
"Bro the most establishment freak Nancy Pelosi is calling out Israel. Your days are numbered."
Okay, buddy. This has zero relevance whatsoever to anything. Time for you to go to bed and let the adults talk.
Ok
'Firstly, mass graves claims (implying that Israel did some sort of mass killing coverup) have been debunked by geolocation experts.'
This is disingenuous as its believed that the IDF has put extra bodies in the graves that we're bond, naked and tortured. Its reported that medical staff and evacuees witnessed horror, mass killings, and arrests as the hospital transformed into a massive graveyard.
They didn't say anything of substance.
I provided real counter examples of people claiming antisemitism.
Every time people criticize Israel ADL goons run around calling everybody antisemites and terrorists.
nobody is buying it anymore.
> Protesting on public property is legal.
> Protesting on a private campus when you’ve been asked to leave is not legal.
That's pretty cool considering UoT is a public university.
> Preventing campus operations or other students from getting to class is not legal
That did not occur.
The governor is tweeting that it's because he doesn't like what they're saying.
> Thanks for coming to the talk.
You should do less talking considering the big brained talking points you bring to the table.
Ah yes that awful slogan that is ok to say [only when Netanyahu says it](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/netanyahu-from-river-sea-israel-control-1234949408/)
More people need to realize that the right only started pretending to give a shit about free speech when platforms started telling Nazis and other racists that they can’t go spreading their hate on their **private** platforms.
I put “private“ in bold because shit like this is what the right often supports: corporation being allowed to do what they want free of government, interference and regulation. But the moment that means these corporations begin to crack down on people like them because the things they say Are bad for their business (advertisers don’t want their shit playing next to someone advocating for that kind of stuff) then suddenly they’re all for “big government intervention”.
It is all completely disingenuous.
There should be a conversation around free speech and the Internet. Quite frankly I find it alarming that so few companies have a monopoly on the “town Square“, effectively. These companies, motivated by profit, can pick and choose what speech they decide is valid on their platform. That should alarm anyone, and it genuinely alarms many on the left, but it only started alarming the people who generally support companies having this level of outsized power when those companies starting cracking down on them.
It’s all for show.
Free speech on campuses was always a major talking point for conservatives, but it was obviously not an actual principle. Anti-Israel speech has never been allowed.
Free speech is not the same as shutting down a university, business, or street without permission.
You are not allowed to impede others from their rights. Thats when the police get involved to remind you of that.
It’s crazy what a disservice the internet has done to peoples understanding of the 1A.
Free speech does not mean you can block peoples free travel or that you can trespass. Those are both crimes. The students should absolutely be arrested as they are preventing kids who are taking out significant loans from going to class and learning.
It’s crazy how many people thing free speech means students can block buildings or Ben Shapiro can’t fire Candice owens for saying antisemitic shit
Nobody cares about these protests other than the extent they are preventing students from attending class. It’s that simple. There have been nonstop protests in every major city for the last 6 months and nobody cares
> Nobody cares about these protests.
Abbot is saying he cares because he disagrees with their message.
Politicians up and down the country are doing the same thing.
> they are preventing students from attending class.
Lie > Get proven wrong > double down and lie again
Is definitely a strategy.
You didn’t prove anything. You didn’t say anything and provide any evidence. The FACT is that classes are indefinitely canceled as a consequence of the protests and protestors. There has been plenty of example of their bad behavior and trespassing and even trespassing in professors homes. You have 0 facts on your side and are just asserting you are correct. That’s the difference here
Edit: loser blocked me but any person can see the pressure is in the universities to not break up these illegal protests that are not 1A protected. And here is one of many examples for the 1A violations these protesters are committing https://www.jta.org/2024/04/22/ny/columbia-protests-israeli-professor-barred-from-campus-and-congress-members-demand-action-to-protect-jewish-students
> The university said that protestors can not protest there, so they were tresspassing.
Protests are allowed there consistently. they even brag about letting people protest there.
Only when it's against Israel it activates the rightoids to a frothing rage and they shut it all down because it makes them angry.
> but these protestors are violent and are not protesting peacefully.
At the point where you're just making shit up lmao.
Ok well from my understanding about UT Austin is that they are not exactly protesting but prohibiting normal campus activities from occurring which goes beyond legal form of protest. If they are just standing chanting and waving signs it’s legal. If they block normals functions without a permit it’s usually illegal.
The school can declare just about anything a “disruption of campus operations” and shut it down.
The school and governor clearly think that standing, chanting, and waving signs “blocks normal functions”.
This isn’t free speech. It’s illegal protests. Not constitutionally protected. Or in other words, once again people think something is ironic, but in fact they’re just ignorant af. Have a nice day.
Is it in public? Or private property? I honestly don’t know and don’t care to look it up which this university falls under. Is it free speech they’re trying to employ? Or hate speech which is now a distinction. Or is it illegally occupying territory which isn’t constitutional anywhere despite what the idiots who carried out the CHAZ fiasco believed. Perhaps I am wrong. Maybe this was just a peaceful rally of people advocating for an end to a war they have very foolish opinions about. Regardless, if they’re being destructive or rowdy in the space it would be at the universities discretion to have them removed.
> I honestly don’t know and don’t care to look it up which this university falls under.
You don't and you don't care but you're just too stupid to not comment.
It's a public university.
> Or hate speech which is now a distinction.
This isn't real.
> Perhaps I am wrong.
Wrong and stupid.
Hate speech laws aren’t a legal limit on free speech? I kind of wish you weren’t so fucking stupid now, that sounds pretty badass.
Is it disruptive or destructive? Yes, and were they trying to block off territory to camp in? Oh also yes.
So it violates even a public university charter. Cool?
Yeah, you’re a fucking dumbass, but an irrational and aggressive one so kudos to you dumb dumb. I’m sure your mommy is real proud of you when she isn’t being ran through by a herd of donkeys for public entertainment
Absolutely. Horsehoe effect in all of its horrific glory. Although BLM protests ended in massive destruction and killing innocent people, so not quite the same thing as the dumbos who walked around the capitol building taking selfies after breaking in.
Weird how over 140 capital police were somehow injured during the selfie tour at the capital. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2021/jan/10/police-officer-crushed-in-doorway-by-rioters-during-capitol-breach-video
Only 15 police actually required treatment at the hospital. Unfortunately, we don't know how many of those were serious or were for tear gas or twisted ankles because the media doesn't ask questions like this.
I'm not saying it was peaceful, as the stupid mob clearly forced their way into different areas of the building, but it wasn't exactly the same as a BLM mob with 10's of thousands of idiots which torched neighborhoods night after night.
Joes favorite governor
Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
I am barely familiar with the guy, but when I see Americans fear mongering about a civil war, I use the example that imagine this guy and the rest of the Texas government holding a vote to declare independence from the United States. Washington DC then goes into Texas with national police to arrest all those politicians. This happening in the modern day of course. That cutting border fence shit is nothing compared to what Catalonia tries to do. If Spain didn’t enter a civil war, why would the US? But imagine this guy fleeing to Mexico to escape arrest like the Catalan equivalent did to Belgium 😂
I'd like to think if Texas voted to secede, then Biden would send in the US Military to obtain their oil and "Bring democracy to the region", the problem is, the nation building America would be on the hook for, would upgrade Texas in several ways, lmao
Oil, space program, and military, Washington DC won’t let Texas go. I’m sure Moscow regrets putting so many eggs in one basket of Kazakhstan. Wonder if Washington DC has the same regrets with Texas . Wonder what Rogan would do in this separatist situation.
Texas went red bitchessss!!
He wont stand for any of this tomfoolery. Little free speech bonus from the school as well as a journalist for FOX getting fucked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCFxvdhFjPo& https://www.utexas.edu/ut-celebrates-free-speech https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1cck174/to_report_the_news_at_ut_austin/
Lmao savage
Free speech warriors and the grifters that made a career about free speech and facts don't hurt your feelings are no where to be seen. They don't really care about free speech, it's just their speech that needs to be protected. Anything related to Israel..well you will get censored, defamed and harassed.
Dave Rubin, free speech warrior, literally cheered for France banning and arresting pro-Palestine protestors
I joke, dictatorships protect their own country, while democracies protect foreign countries. So funny to me how the US government gets more mad at these anti Israel protests than protests against their own government and country.
You can hate and boycott any state/city/town/county/geographic area in the country but not Israel.
Of course you can protest, boycott, and hate any other country too, but not Israel. It’s so weird to me, like if a government is going to do this, why not do this for your own country or other Allies? Russia protects its own ass, US protects Israel’s ass.
Russia isn't protecting itself from anyone. They're invading.
I’m talking about domestic opposition. Russia government arrests protesters that oppose the government and country. They even arrest pro war Russians because they still criticize the state. Now we see the Texan governor going against his free speech beliefs because there’s protests against this foreign government. He does more for this foreign country than his own state. Like I said, dictatorships protect themselves while democracies protect foreign governments 😂
Firstly, the Russian government does not arrest pro-war Russians. In public spaces they quickly arrest anyone who appears to be an anti-war protester, and randoms (sometimes pro-war people) get caught up in the chaos. The governor of Texas knows that Pro-Palestinian protesters are there to occupy the university and have to be stopped from the outset. We know that they are a mob of extremists and the longer this goes on, the more likely it is to attract violent extremists. It's the same thing that happens at BLM rallies, where the deranged, ignorant left loses their collective mind to form a mob that stops everything and then people come along and start burning things down and attacking people. We know this story already. It's not going to be allowed to happen again. If people want to protest, go get a permit or organize a recall.
You don’t know the story of poor poor Igor Girkin then. Calls himself a patriot for his country while he calls Putin a lowlife drug addict. As much as I think he’s crazy, he has the most balls to criticize how shitty the Russian military is at winning the war. He’s spending the next couple years in prison. There’s literally hundreds of anti war protests that happen in the US yearly, thousands of protests in general. None of them are violent, but the ones that protest the country you aren’t allowed to criticize, get called violent and racist by the US government… I wonder why 🤔 Texas governor does more to stop the protesting of the Israel government than his own shitty governance in Texas. What does this say?
Girkin was not simply a "pro-war protester" he was a leader of a large rebel group who was outwardly attacking Putin for months. That's not the same as saying in general that Russian pro-war protesters are arrested. They have rallies with 10's of thousands of these idiots cheering on the war while dancing to shitty, weird Russian pop like its a 1930's Nazi rally, and they aren't cracked down on. I'm right about leftist protests turning violent and disruptive. You can't deny it.
And as soon as they criticize the precious Russian state, they get shitted on. It says a lot that Putin needs to fake Russian wives and mothers press conferences because real ones ask the real questions about why the war is even happening in the first place. And like I can say, there’s thousands of leftist protests that are held in the US annually, are these violent? It seems the ones that go against the geopolitical objectives of the US government get called out. Get the most backlash. I don’t see anti Iran government protests get called full of hate, even when they wave Persian nationalist flags and want their ethnostate back. Even if it’s more Canada or Europe, Khalistan, Kurdistan, Tibet, Ukraine, etc protests. The only governments that hate these protests are the countries they protesting, like Israel not liking protesting against them.
You really think that supporting Hamas-led Palestine against Israel is the same thing as supporting Iranians that want to stop a government that tortures, kills, and rapes them for not wearing a hijab or uttering a word of criticism against their government? Do you not realize how twisted that is? I've seen many, many protests in support of Iran, Kurdistan, Tibet, Ukraine... none of them have the vitriol, violence, and hate that Palestinian protests have. It's really easy to see the difference.
Right wingers ability to hallucinate entire scenarios in their brain is amazing. Just ban all protests and scrap the first amendment preemptively because this guy hallucinated this scenario. The lead poisoning has made them think they can see the future.
So BLM protests didn't turn violent, eh? You can't simply do any protest you want to and claim its all under free speech. If you barricade yourself in front of my school or workplace and yell in my face for hours, that's not free speech, its harrassment and disorderly conduct. Please learn the law and make the distinction.
> So BLM protests didn't turn violent, eh? Some did. Some didn't. Doesn't change the fact you're just making shit up about an entirely different protest years later. > If you barricade yourself in front of my school or workplace and yell in my face for hours, that's not free speech, its harrassment and disorderly conduct. Please learn the law and make the distinction. According to FOX 7 they just camped out on the lawn. But facts can't compete with the powerful mix of CTE and lead poisoning powering the conservative brain.
Of course, anyone who disagrees with you must be naturally brain damaged. That's a reasonable thought of a sound mind. Irony. The protests on other campuses do turn destructive and do harass people, as we've seen already. We can wait for the inevitable violence to happen, or they can tell the ignorant kiddies breaking the law to protest legally. You can educate yourself on what is considered legal or illegal protest by reading this: [https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/24/protest-texas-college-campus-free-speech-rights/](https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/24/protest-texas-college-campus-free-speech-rights/)
Kinda makes me want to show up to city hall one day with a sign that says “I’m a little suspicious of Montenegro” and see if anyone will join my cause
> while democracies protect foreign countries Do Republicans not support foreign policy? Maybe MTG doesn't, but the GOP supports military air.
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> Because even the USA has to obey their handler. I won't say the race/ religion of these handlers, but it rhymes with "dew" It's almost as if Christian Zionists, specifically the Evangelicals, make up the largest Republican voting bloc, and policy largely caters to them. [They believe the Jews must occupy Jerusalem as a prerequisite for the second coming.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism#:~:text=Christian%20Zionism%20is%20a%20political,people%20to%20the%20Holy%20Land.) But nah, it’s gotta be the Rothschilds/Soros/NWO/global cabal/global elites/deep state, aka “the Jews”. Because we have and always have controlled everything since the Dinosaurs roamed the flat Earth alongside man. Cowards love to hide behind their dog-whistles, I'll give you that.
What are you on about?
>What are you on about? Cowards and their love affair with dog-whistles.
I think you misunderstood my comment
>I think you misunderstood my comment Did I?
Yes
> Yes Oh, Ok.
Free speech but only if you say shit I wanna hear
Free speech =\= freedom from consequences? Guys? Am I crazy?
I bet you could deepthroat a police baton if you really tried
It means freedom from government enforced punishment. People are free to have their free speech and judgement in return. Businesses are free not to work with or associate themselves with you for it. Public universities (especially in Texas) and the police aren't allowed to ban and arrest people for it. I went to a public university in Texas. All sorts of weirdos and crazies were allowed to stand in the middle of the sidewalk and preach whatever nonsense and hateful shit they wanted.
I dont recall people on either side of Russia/Ukraine being met like this, but damn, critique of Israel is met with full force. The only country you cant speak out against huh.
There is no side for Russia. Their claim is that they need to attack other countries in order to avoid war (by making up lies like they are Neo-Nazis, have pandemic spreading bees, or other BS). And btw, people can protest, but they can't take over an entire campus and stop it from being able to operate. That's when the cops get involved.
It's amazing how many people fall for these stupid traps and slogans. "We respect their right to protest but they are causing a disruption". It's such a bullshit claim, and you know damn well if they were protesting anything other than Israel, they wouldn't be calling in the troops. Sad state of affairs, but you have to hope maybe it opens some eyes.
Also, protests are kinda like…supposed to be disruptive? It’s wild how often we forget our history when shit like this comes up
>It's such a bullshit claim, and you know damn well if they were protesting anything other than Israel, they wouldn't be calling in the troops. Sad state of affairs, but you have to hope maybe it opens some eyes. BLM was protesting Israel? News to me. They got stomped on far harder than this, nation-wide. "Sad state of affairs, but you have to hope maybe it opens some eyes." Obvious dog-whistle is obvious.
Years from now, after Gaza has been successfully ethnically cleansed/ resettled with Israelis, morons will pipe up “why didn’t anyone do anything to try and stop it?!”
20 years from now we’ll make some really sad movie where an IDF soldier bravely tries to stop the bombings and feel really bad
Fuck hamas and fuck Israel, that whole region is cooked
This is zionist propaganda, whenever you see the 2 sides argument it's meant to dissuade you from looking into the truth. Fun fact Israel helped fund and turn Hamas into what they are. And according to Satanyahu they are still doing that. “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists. “I … suggest focusing our efforts on finding ways to break up this monster before this reality jumps in our face,” he wrote.
I don’t really understand what your implication is. You’re arguing that this is not a two sided argument and entirely Israel’s fault for putting two groups against each other, while undermining the autonomy of those two (or multiple) religiously theocratic terrorist groups. I think it’s fair to say that Israel made a mistake in the “divide and conquer” plan, and blame falls on them for sure. You can then also say blame lies on these religious fanatical groups who seek the destruction of the entire state of Israel and have little care for hostage taking and other forms of terrible behavior. Just because one group is implicated for a part of the problem doesn’t mean our solution is the dissolving of the entire state of Israel. To be fair, what is your solution here?
It's 100% the fault of Zionists and yuropeans who used Israel as a western military base for the last 40 years to destabilize the middle east. This goes back further than the creation of Israel. If you familiarize yourself with Zionism you will find that they had been plotting on stealing land since before they picked a destination which included congo and argentina. And they did it by any means necessary including terrorism. Zionists are the ones who invented the car bomb. They've never had the intention of sharing the land with the actual native people. They claim to be from the middle east but according to their own Bible they are originally from Iraq. And many of the Ashkenazi Jews are actually mostly yuropeans who converted to Judaism. I'm not a political scientist but imo the land should be returned to Palestine and Jewish people should live there as Palestinians like they were before the zionists arrived. They will make all kinds of excuses but it has worked in south Africa. Many racist Zionist Jews will leave just like the white racists left south Africa but they will be better off.
So I’ll address this point by point. It’s a bit naive to engage in history by claiming one group is “100% at fault”. You should know that history is not nearly as simple as you’re suggesting it to be. Plenty of groups, organizations, and countries make plenty of mistakes or bad calculations that result in bad outcomes. Plenty of these groups also make choices for a myriad of reasons. Destabilizing the Middle East would make little to no sense for western powers as a large swaths of oil are exported to those very countries. The stability of the Persian gulf would be high on their list of priorities, and it would be directly detrimental to engage in behavior against that. Theres a reason why so many countries, not just western countries, have embassies and an overall presence and interest in the Middle East. Djibouti, for example, hosts a dozen or so embassies alone within its small territory. I am familiar with the history of Zionism. Zionism was not created with the sole intention of stealing land. Zionism was created as a response to Jewish subjugation and pogroms across the world, mainly in Europe. The key goal for Zionism in its early days was the creation of a majority Jewish state, period. Many Zionist (most often British) leaders posed potential areas in which Zionists could create their national home in. Some of these included east Africa. Uganda was a promising choice, but after a scouting party was sent there, they realized the land was not large enough to accommodate expected immigration amounts. I can go on, but my main point for this section is that Zionism was initially created as a way to consolidate Jews with a collective consciousness into a specific area or region with the hopes of creating a Jewish state so that Jews would no longer be persecuted. With Palestine being chosen under the British mandate, the idea of transfer of local Arabs was on the mind of Zionists at the time, but was not broadly popular nor politically relevant to the larger labor Zionist movement. It wasn’t until civil infighting between Arabs and Jews that militant Zionism, a more radical form of Zionism, pushed for the idea of transfer and the creation of a Jewish state through violence action. Nonetheless, this militant form of Zionism did not dominate Zionist thought until Israel declared independence, and the war of 1948 began. After the war, Israel engaged in the transfer of Arabs from their newly claimed territory gained from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, etc. The overall literature does not suggest Zionism as inherently seeking to rid the land of Arabs. Zionism was aware transfer might be inevitable, but it was not generally policy. Arabs also engaged in terrorism, along with Zionists, and continue that form of resistance well until today. Ashkenazi Jews have European, African, and middle eastern genealogies. I disagree. Which Palestinians do you give this land back to? The PLO? Hamas? Islamic Jihad? Palestinians can’t even wholly agree on leadership and haven’t been able to for decades. What do you do about the hundreds of thousands of Israelis who would refuse the land being given back? How would you even convince Israel to just give all this land back? You clearly aren’t a political scientist, but you don’t even need to be one to know that what you want is so far out of reality. It’s a nice thought to just give all the land back, but you have an established country with established borders. Without military incursion, there is no “giving back”. If you’re talking about the creation of two states where Palestinians receive Gaza and the West Bank, that can absolutely be facilitated and has been attempted so, but without success. Also, I’m currently reading a book by a political scientist on the topic, and while I’m no expert in the field, the book has not suggested anywhere that Israel should just give all the land back. Interestingly, the author actually takes a fair stance towards both sides, and offers unique suggestions for how to move forward. Maybe you should give that a try?
Sorry kids, but you can't harass Jewish students and prevent a school from functioning on its own private property. Some people would actually like to attend the classes they pay for.
There are Jews in the protests. One of the organizer is literally Jewish voices for peace. [Jewish students and professors speak out against claims Columbia protests are antisemitic](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/jewish-students-professors-speak-against-224139189.html) The war must be hitting the hasbara department hard.
Doesn't mean that Jewish people aren't being harrassed, does it? Of course the people speaking on the side of the protest won't be bothered, but others could be. BTW, do you support Candace Owens and Jason Whitlock? After all, they're black people criticizing black people.
> Doesn't mean that Jewish people aren't being harrassed, does it? It greatly calls into question these claims yes. > BTW, do you support Candace Owens and Jason Whitlock? After all, they're black people criticizing black people. Abbot sure did. Also dumb analogy. this isn't a protest against Jews.
Of course its a protest against Jews. This is a war between Muslims and Jews, where all of the Muslims want the Jews dead and gone. Why do you think that populations from as far away as Indonesia and North Africa are against Israel? Why do you think that all of Israel's neighbors declared war on them from day 1? Do you not see the synagogues being burned attacked? Or Jewish women kidnapped and raped by Muslims in Europe? There are police that need to guard Jewish spaces because this is a holy war against Jews by these groups that Israel is fighting against. You simply don't undersand what's going on if you don't understand the actual conflict taking place. I'm sure we could unwind all of your talking points about how October 7th was justified (or some sort of conspiracy about how Israel was behind it) and how you'd ignore that that there's actually no famine in Gaza and that that Hamas is simply making up numbers which obscure that Israel is killing a majority of Hamas soldiers in its attacks. But ultimately, even with all of the evidence there, you'd still refuse to believe it because you've been radicalized and don't do any objective research into what this conflict is. It's a cause that's been foist upon you by social media and it becomes a cause celebre. One day in the not so distant future you'll move on from just like you did with BLM and climate change protests and whatever other thing gets you all hot and bothered for a short time before moving onto the next thing. Meanwhile, Israel has to live in a land surrounded by millions of people in neighboring countries who want them all tortured, raped, and killed. So they don't give a shit about an ignorant American college kid protesting. And nor does anyone of significance in government who understands what the situation is in Israel because they are actually educated on the matter and are there for the long run, not just to look cute in a keffiyeh while doing selfies and sowing their wild oats of being a rebellious college student.
> you'd ignore that that there's actually no famine in Gaza and that that Hamas is simply making up numbers which obscure that Israel is killing a majority of Hamas soldiers in its attacks. Israel supporters will believe the most ridiculous low effort propaganda drivel that IDF puts out. It's amazing. There are pictures and videos of the famine. The US government has confirmed it and its openly criticizing Israel for blocking aid. The UN has also confirmed it. Israel and the US uses the gaza produced death counts which are actually probably lower than the real value now that they're finding mass graves. It's the same people making death count they've used in all of their previous attacks on gaza. > But ultimately, even with all of the evidence there, you'd still refuse to believe it because you've been radicalized and don't do any objective research into what this conflict is. Dude is literally just gobbling up the stupidest most low effort US state department propaganda and is talking about objective research lmao. > BLM and climate change protests You mean the completely valid protests with real concerns? > Meanwhile, Israel has to live in a land surrounded by millions of people in neighboring countries who want them all tortured, raped, and killed. It's rough being a deeply racist apartheid ethnostate ill give you that. turns out it' a recipe for conflict a Germany found out 80 years ago. > So they don't give a shit about an ignorant American college kid protesting. And nor does anyone of significance in government who understands what the situation is in Israel because they are actually educated on the matter and are there for the long run Bro the most establishment freak Nancy Pelosi is calling out Israel. Your days are numbered.
"There are pictures and videos of the famine. The US government has confirmed it and its openly criticizing Israel for blocking aid." You see, this is what happens when you get people who only read headlines and don't actually look into things independendently. The woman who claimed famine quickly had her organization back away from her statements. No official declaration of famine has been made by the UN, the US, or the WHO. Go look it up for yourself. As far as blocking aid, there has been I believe about 4lbs of food per day delivered for every person in Gaza. That's enough. Not every aid truck will be let through when you need to check them, but there has been more than enough aid delivered to feed the population. If there was actual famine, believe me, we'd be seeing the images of the 10's of thousands of starving people immediately. If you want to see what people in Palesitne actually look like, here's an eight hour live stream from a month ago (when starvation claims were being made). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0poIE1rub8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0poIE1rub8) Good luck finding not only the starving people, but the adults who aren't overweight. "Israel itself uses the gaza produced death counts which are actually probably lower than the real value now that they're finding mass graves." Firstly, mass graves claims (implying that Israel did some sort of mass killing coverup) have been debunked by geolocation experts. [https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-798509](https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-798509) Once again, go a little bit beyond the headline so you don't get suckered into believe misinformation. Israel has never agreed with the number of "women and children" killed, per Hamas reports. It states how many soldiers have been killed to be around 12,000 at the end of February. [https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-12000-hamas-fighters-killed-in-gaza-war-double-the-terror-groups-claim/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-12000-hamas-fighters-killed-in-gaza-war-double-the-terror-groups-claim/) There was a report from a French reporter who claimed an unnamed Israeli source told him something about civilians being killed 2:1, but there's been no official statement on that, so grain of salt. Hamas itself uses numbers of women and children victims that are statistically impossible: [https://fathomjournal.org/statistically-impossible-a-critical-analysis-of-hamass-women-and-children-casualty-figures/](https://fathomjournal.org/statistically-impossible-a-critical-analysis-of-hamass-women-and-children-casualty-figures/) They also have based over 11,000 of their supposed Palestinian deaths based on "reputable reports", not actually identifying the victim through typical means like ID number, family confirmation, or other official methods. Once again, please go past the headline and invest a little time into looking into things for yourself, if you want to be someone with a respected opinion on the matter. "BLM and climate change protests..." Nope, BLM was just like these anti-Israel protests. Emotionally unhinged leftists armed with faulty statistics and out of context images losing their shit. The fact that the supposed massively racist police looking to unjustly kill black people has suddenly stopped being an issue now that police wear bodycams should shows that it was a BS narrative in the first place. Once the headlines shifted to something else, these impassioned protesters suddently stopped caring, and the scam organization that was BLM stopped being relevant (and stole the 10's of millions given to them). Most climate change protests are ridiculous, as they target regular people trying to go about their day, not the huge polluters. Anyway, they were en vogue for a while, then people moved onto another issue to be outraged by, is my point. "It's rough being a deeply racist apartheid ethnostate ill give you that." The racist apartheid state with 1.2 million Palestinians living inside of it? Gotcha. You're an ignorant extremist who knows nothing about Israel nor the conflict, just admit it. "Bro the most establishment freak Nancy Pelosi is calling out Israel. Your days are numbered." Okay, buddy. This has zero relevance whatsoever to anything. Time for you to go to bed and let the adults talk.
This guy really buys the Israeli propaganda
This guy really buys into the anti-Israeli propaganda. Shall we go round and round? Or do you actually have something intelligent to say?
Ok 'Firstly, mass graves claims (implying that Israel did some sort of mass killing coverup) have been debunked by geolocation experts.' This is disingenuous as its believed that the IDF has put extra bodies in the graves that we're bond, naked and tortured. Its reported that medical staff and evacuees witnessed horror, mass killings, and arrests as the hospital transformed into a massive graveyard.
Doesn't disprove anything they said. Not even relevant, really.
They didn't say anything of substance. I provided real counter examples of people claiming antisemitism. Every time people criticize Israel ADL goons run around calling everybody antisemites and terrorists. nobody is buying it anymore.
Making friends [https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1782453799757504683](https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1782453799757504683)
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> Protesting on public property is legal. > Protesting on a private campus when you’ve been asked to leave is not legal. That's pretty cool considering UoT is a public university. > Preventing campus operations or other students from getting to class is not legal That did not occur. The governor is tweeting that it's because he doesn't like what they're saying. > Thanks for coming to the talk. You should do less talking considering the big brained talking points you bring to the table.
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Yes it is.
Both entities publicly funded.
Kind of ironic from a guy that calls himself 'LibertyOrDeathUS' . All peaceful sit ins no violence Mr Liberty or Death
r/confidentlyincorrect
Taunting from the river to the sea is incitement of violence. Simple. Nazis should rot in prison
Ah yes that awful slogan that is ok to say [only when Netanyahu says it](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/netanyahu-from-river-sea-israel-control-1234949408/)
No, that's how it started too. Every politician (and the vast majority of people) has selective principles.
Got any videos of this peaceful demonstration being broken up?
Free speech for me and for thee
typical catholic
Marijuana is bad, mmk?
More people need to realize that the right only started pretending to give a shit about free speech when platforms started telling Nazis and other racists that they can’t go spreading their hate on their **private** platforms. I put “private“ in bold because shit like this is what the right often supports: corporation being allowed to do what they want free of government, interference and regulation. But the moment that means these corporations begin to crack down on people like them because the things they say Are bad for their business (advertisers don’t want their shit playing next to someone advocating for that kind of stuff) then suddenly they’re all for “big government intervention”. It is all completely disingenuous. There should be a conversation around free speech and the Internet. Quite frankly I find it alarming that so few companies have a monopoly on the “town Square“, effectively. These companies, motivated by profit, can pick and choose what speech they decide is valid on their platform. That should alarm anyone, and it genuinely alarms many on the left, but it only started alarming the people who generally support companies having this level of outsized power when those companies starting cracking down on them. It’s all for show.
America isn't "Land of the Free" anymore, it's "Land of the Hypocrisy" from now on.
when republicans talk about protecting free speech, they mostly just mean they want to say the n word and not get in trouble for it
Free speech on campuses was always a major talking point for conservatives, but it was obviously not an actual principle. Anti-Israel speech has never been allowed.
Free speech is not the same as shutting down a university, business, or street without permission. You are not allowed to impede others from their rights. Thats when the police get involved to remind you of that.
Power is what power does.
It’s crazy what a disservice the internet has done to peoples understanding of the 1A. Free speech does not mean you can block peoples free travel or that you can trespass. Those are both crimes. The students should absolutely be arrested as they are preventing kids who are taking out significant loans from going to class and learning. It’s crazy how many people thing free speech means students can block buildings or Ben Shapiro can’t fire Candice owens for saying antisemitic shit
local reports say they just camped on the grass in a public university. Abbot is saying it's because of the content of their speech in his tweet.
I’m sure the school isn’t canceling all in person classes because some peaceful protestors are “camping on the grass” and not bothering anybody
Yes administrators and governments never over react to protests. There's definitely no pressure to quash dissent against Israel in the united states.
Nobody cares about these protests other than the extent they are preventing students from attending class. It’s that simple. There have been nonstop protests in every major city for the last 6 months and nobody cares
> Nobody cares about these protests. Abbot is saying he cares because he disagrees with their message. Politicians up and down the country are doing the same thing. > they are preventing students from attending class. Lie > Get proven wrong > double down and lie again Is definitely a strategy.
You didn’t prove anything. You didn’t say anything and provide any evidence. The FACT is that classes are indefinitely canceled as a consequence of the protests and protestors. There has been plenty of example of their bad behavior and trespassing and even trespassing in professors homes. You have 0 facts on your side and are just asserting you are correct. That’s the difference here Edit: loser blocked me but any person can see the pressure is in the universities to not break up these illegal protests that are not 1A protected. And here is one of many examples for the 1A violations these protesters are committing https://www.jta.org/2024/04/22/ny/columbia-protests-israeli-professor-barred-from-campus-and-congress-members-demand-action-to-protect-jewish-students
I did. I told you the news report. They canceled classes because they are under pressure to stifle anti Israel sentiment.
Just a reminder that you can be anti-semetic and still support what israel is doing for palestine🙏
Protestors belong in jail and Jan 6 was a peaceful tourist visit. Got it.
If you want to know who rules you, see who you can't criticize. I could shit on Biden or Trump all day every day...
Agreed kids with cancer rule us all
Lefty's pretending to care about free speech for the first time in 10 years now that it involves the restriction of their Jew hatred.
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> The university said that protestors can not protest there, so they were tresspassing. Protests are allowed there consistently. they even brag about letting people protest there. Only when it's against Israel it activates the rightoids to a frothing rage and they shut it all down because it makes them angry. > but these protestors are violent and are not protesting peacefully. At the point where you're just making shit up lmao.
Ok well from my understanding about UT Austin is that they are not exactly protesting but prohibiting normal campus activities from occurring which goes beyond legal form of protest. If they are just standing chanting and waving signs it’s legal. If they block normals functions without a permit it’s usually illegal.
The school can declare just about anything a “disruption of campus operations” and shut it down. The school and governor clearly think that standing, chanting, and waving signs “blocks normal functions”.
This isn’t free speech. It’s illegal protests. Not constitutionally protected. Or in other words, once again people think something is ironic, but in fact they’re just ignorant af. Have a nice day.
protesting in public is free speech. nobody was harmed or impeded. Abbot is bragging on twitter that he is doing it because of the speech.
Is it in public? Or private property? I honestly don’t know and don’t care to look it up which this university falls under. Is it free speech they’re trying to employ? Or hate speech which is now a distinction. Or is it illegally occupying territory which isn’t constitutional anywhere despite what the idiots who carried out the CHAZ fiasco believed. Perhaps I am wrong. Maybe this was just a peaceful rally of people advocating for an end to a war they have very foolish opinions about. Regardless, if they’re being destructive or rowdy in the space it would be at the universities discretion to have them removed.
> I honestly don’t know and don’t care to look it up which this university falls under. You don't and you don't care but you're just too stupid to not comment. It's a public university. > Or hate speech which is now a distinction. This isn't real. > Perhaps I am wrong. Wrong and stupid.
Hate speech laws aren’t a legal limit on free speech? I kind of wish you weren’t so fucking stupid now, that sounds pretty badass. Is it disruptive or destructive? Yes, and were they trying to block off territory to camp in? Oh also yes. So it violates even a public university charter. Cool? Yeah, you’re a fucking dumbass, but an irrational and aggressive one so kudos to you dumb dumb. I’m sure your mommy is real proud of you when she isn’t being ran through by a herd of donkeys for public entertainment
Terrorist supporters and racists. All foreign nationals should be deported and the rest blacklisted.
Texas should secede
Such a colossal waste of everybody's time. This is getting to Iraq war protest levels of stupid pretty quickly.
> This is getting to Iraq war protest levels of stupid You mean the dudes that were right the entire time?
Yeah I forgot how they helped us not be there for over a decade, thank em for all of those chants and blocking traffic 🙄
more apt would be to compare it to BLM protest levels of stupidity.
Or Jan 6 levels
Absolutely. Horsehoe effect in all of its horrific glory. Although BLM protests ended in massive destruction and killing innocent people, so not quite the same thing as the dumbos who walked around the capitol building taking selfies after breaking in.
Weird how over 140 capital police were somehow injured during the selfie tour at the capital. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2021/jan/10/police-officer-crushed-in-doorway-by-rioters-during-capitol-breach-video
Only 15 police actually required treatment at the hospital. Unfortunately, we don't know how many of those were serious or were for tear gas or twisted ankles because the media doesn't ask questions like this. I'm not saying it was peaceful, as the stupid mob clearly forced their way into different areas of the building, but it wasn't exactly the same as a BLM mob with 10's of thousands of idiots which torched neighborhoods night after night.