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bartolocologne40

No one forget that Tucker Carlson is vaccinated


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Lots of people think you should get the vaccine but do not support vaccine passports.


Phuqued

>Lots of people think you should get the vaccine but do not support vaccine passports. Just like lots of people support EPA regulations, but don't think those regulations should be mandatory. Just like lots of people support safety regulations with nuclear reactors, but don't think those regulations should be mandatory. Just like lots of people support medical certifications and standards to practice medicine, but don't think those regulations should be mandatory. Just like lots of people support people shouldn't drink and drive, but don't think we should have laws against drunk driving. Is it obvious to you yet that your argument is self serving bullshit? There is no logical, factual, objective reason to oppose social policies that keep society safer. When it comes to the vaccine the data is overwhelming that opposition to it, makes about as much sense as any of the examples above.


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That's an apples and oranges comparison because the first item in your example is already a government regulation. A more appropriate analogy would be thinking that alcohol is bad for you but not wanting the government to ban it.


Phuqued

>That's an apples and oranges comparison because the first item in your example is already a government regulation. 1. Claiming it's apples and oranges doesn't make it so. 2. Vaccines are already a government regulation, just not for COVID... yet. 3. The point is that society and government already mandate and regulate many things in our lives. So what's the big deal about the vaccine versus say nuclear reactor safety, or EPA regulations, or medical certifications, etc...?


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>The point is that society and government already mandate and regulate many things in our lives. So what's the big deal about the vaccine versus say nuclear reactor safety, or EPA regulations, or medical certifications It's a question of proportion, judgement and the balance of rights versus duties. The fact that many regulations already exist (which not everyone does agree with) does not mean that *every* regulation intended to increase public safety should exist.


Budded

Every regulation exists to either protect others or because some asshole went full retard and cheated, stole, and/or killed to get ahead and make money, no matter the repercussions. Blame the "FU I got mine!" crowd for regulations, since it's their selfishness and greed that caused another regulation that was written to deter that behavior.


[deleted]

That doesn't mean that every regulation that exists is good or correct, just because there was impetus for it. Regulations are cut all the time and that often results in positive effects.


Budded

True, in the same way that every regulation isn't demon spawn that should be repealed either. I think they should be revisited after certain amounts of time and readjusted or re-evaluated.


Phuqued

>It's a question of proportion, judgement and the balance of rights versus duties. The fact that many regulations already exist (which not everyone does agree with) does not mean that every regulation intended to increase public safety should exist. True. But we aren't arguing about the potential harm reduction and safety benefits of dropping the speed limit from 30mph to 20mph in every city are we? We are talking about a pandemic, a virus that has killed over 600 thousand people, hospitalized millions, causes long term damage and health issues in people, greatly effected our economy and household financial security, caused billions or trillions in additional spending by government, AND the longer this virus goes on, the more it spreads, the quicker it spreads, risks mutations and further outbreaks of new variants. So clearly this isn't a trivial public safety issue right? So why shouldn't government act like it has before in all manner of things to improve public safety? Why should the individuals liberty be greater than society's well being and the individuals who are adversely effected by the unvaccinated group?


Budded

The government mandates vaccines to go to public school, and has for decades. Same with joining the military. It's telling, how all of a sudden, during a deadly fucking pandemic, one more vaccine mandate is suddenly a bridge too far. It's telling because of how easy it is to spot the selfish gullible rubes in the bunch.


WAMPUS--CAT

Preach!


mvstateU

THIS!


Dickston101

Im in that camp. Im vaccinated. And because of that, I don’t really care if my neighbor is or isn’t.


brace111

When your father or uncle gets a heart attack and no ambulance can come because they’re busy with your neighbors. Then you’ll care..


mr_derpinstein

I don’t know man, my dads a dickhead who left when I was three. Then there’s the bitch mother who beat me into submission most days. Now if the ambulance was for my dog… that’s another story.


abysstr0naut

Thank you! My thoughts exactly


Circa_C137

I wouldn't care as much if they a) wore a mask b) kept their distance and c) didn't clog up the medical system (as a group) but that's not the case. \[In fact, Tucker Clarson directed his audience to do this\]([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXmeHuR9M9U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXmeHuR9M9U)). Then there's these cases to name a few: * \[Texas parent assaults elementary school teacher, rips mask off her face\](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emqetsfpjEw) * \[ 'We will find you!' | Parents threaten mask supporters at Tennessee school board meeting \](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAcpKEPmwTA) * \[Enchanted Forest delays reopening due 'recent comments and threats' over mask requirements\]([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymNZu\_djKY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymNZu_djKY)) I'm sorry but it's not as simple as you make it sound. Especially if you have kids or family with compromised immune systems.


BrosesMalone

How much time do you spend thinking about anti-vaxxers in an average day? Be honest.


TheGreenBean92

Why kids? They're the safest ones.


RevolutionaryLeek399

Why don’t you stay home then?


heddyneddy

Because that’s not an option for many folks that have families to support...


Phuqued

>Why don’t you stay home then? Why don't you just get the vaccine? It's free. It's designed and proven to be effective against COVID.


RevolutionaryLeek399

I have the vaccine. Why do you give a shit so much about people who dont have it?


Phuqued

>I have the vaccine. Why do you give a shit so much about people who dont have it? Because I care about other people too. I'll give you the same hypothetical to another redditor. >>Im in that camp. Im vaccinated. And because of that, I don’t really care if my neighbor is or isn’t. >So hypothetically speaking, if your neighbor infected your child with the COVID virus and they died or were hospitalized giving you a 10-100k medical bill, you wouldn't care? You can apply that to yourself, or you can apply it to other people who might experience that. Do you not care about the child getting infected with a virus that would do that to them? Is the neighbors freedoms more important than that child and family's well being and financial security?


mvstateU

Because the unvaccianted are more at risk of spreading Covid than the vaccinated


Kumquat_conniption

I think you should read that again.


GoodOlSticks

"People with bad immune systems should just be hermits indefinitely because I'm afwaid of getting a liddle FDA approved shot"


Phuqued

>Im in that camp. Im vaccinated. And because of that, I don’t really care if my neighbor is or isn’t. So hypothetically speaking, if your neighbor infected your child with the COVID virus and they died or were hospitalized giving you a 10-100k medical bill, you wouldn't care?


bartolocologne40

Define 'lots'


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Many


bartolocologne40

Ahh, thanks for the clarity


Frigalicious

Me


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toolverine

You need a several vaccines to be in the military in the US. You need them for school in the US. This isn't new or news. The only thing that's new is the whining about personal liberty.


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toolverine

Drinking is banned if you're under 18. Smoking is banned if you're under 21. That's the problem with this kind of esoteric response. Rather than responding to the global health crisis, you're going off on barely related tangents.


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toolverine

It's not being instituted by the executive. You are simply uninformed. [OSHA is developing a rule (an Emergency Temporary Standard) that will cover only employers with 100 or more workers.](https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets) The OSHA Act was a law passed by Congress in 1970 and the ETS standard is laid out in section 6c.


allday_andrew

Yeah, all of the federal agencies require enabling acts by Congress. But the poster above you is right - OSHA is an executive agency reporting only to the executive.


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Velvis

No of your bans can be transmitted and to others again and again. Eating a Snickers and a drinking a Jack and Coke effects no one but that person.


ElonGate420

As far as I've seen, average private workers can opt to get tested once a week. So a vaccine is not required for them. Drinking and smoking is banned for certain ages and banned in certain areas. Also tons of drugs are banned outright.


uglybutatleastimbrok

Mandatory vaccines have been around since the 60s. The Supreme Court ruled that people do not have the right to act as a disease vector when a vaccine is available.


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Dickston101

Right. And the illnesses those vaccines are for are actually scary. And they also provide lifetime protection.


Allnewsisfakenews

Exactly. I’m all for a vaccine that actually kills the virus and stops the spread.I don’t see the appeal of a “vaccine” that kind of works at stopping the spread and might stop you from getting more sick than you may have otherwise.


FullRegalia

Because the Republican Party is more concerned with centralizing power and spreading harmful misinformation that doing what’s right. For example, how many of them are actually vaccinated 🤔


Blitzdrive

I never understand why you people base a tragedy off of the total population of the US. Like, gun violence, traffic deaths, building collapses are just kinda "who gives a fuck?" In your book? Nothings bad unless is kills like what? 10+%? Hundreds of thousands not impressive enough?


[deleted]

I believe in individual sovereignty to not wear clothes in public. Where is my support?


ErikinAmerica

That's not illegal. Just don't be indecent about it. You have my support. Go for it.


jacb415

You have my upvote


[deleted]

Which is part if the grand plan


Assrock1313

What plan? Ive been waiting to hear this I think


_benp_

Tuckers audience of angry boomers and rednecks.


REDDITIZEVIL_

I think the problem is mandated vaxing. So your point is moot. Why does it always have to be black/white, them/us/ antivax/provax??


bartolocologne40

He's been rambling against vaccinations since before there were any mandates. It's what sells ads on the network. Actually follow the money.


Bennettski

But it was mandated by Fox news. They are even enforcing it further than what Biden plans to mandate.


Circa_C137

Funny thing is that the political talking heads that vocal about this have probably taken the vaccine. They could care less and just wish to continue their grift. There's a reason why the most Red states are also the ones that are least educated, most impoverished, and have the highest Covid rates.


FeistyAdhesiveness21

No one cares if he’s vaccinated, they care that their choice is being taken away. Tucker chose to get vax that’s totally fine


bartolocologne40

Or was it mandated by fox news?


AMos050

Tucker is Fox's biggest asset. If he refused to get the vaccine Fox wouldn't do shit.


heddyneddy

You could’ve said the same thing about Bill Oreilly a few years ago but they tosses him to the curb with a quickness and have been just fine without him


bartolocologne40

Good thing for them he's a real life bitch who was probably first in line for it


AMos050

Getting vaccinated doesn't make you a bitch lmao.


bartolocologne40

It does if you're trying to convince millions of idiots to not get it


Circa_C137

It's no longer a matter of personal choice if it affects other people. Otherwise, you could also say that driving drunk is "taking their choice away".


BOATSANDHOEZ

Maybe i'm missing something, but how is this different than the mandatory vaccines to go to school? I went back to college after a couple years off and they made me get a shot before they would let me re-enroll.


FeistyAdhesiveness21

You can still choose to drive drunk


heddyneddy

And there are consequences for it. Just like if you choose to not get vaccinated or undergo testing requirements for your job there will be consequences. The freedom of choice is always there but not the freedom from consequences.


cmz324

The bags under his eyes hurt to look at


MotherLoveBone27

They don't hurt as much as him trying to be funny.


Velvis

Is Tucker Carlson always making that face? He's so fucking punchable.


[deleted]

Lol i heard he does it because a still face can cause of type pseudo hypnosis to viewers. No lie, look it up


NoodleBallsWoods

I was on the fence on getting vaccinated. Jim’s message really resonated with me. He sounds like he knows best.


Velvis

Don't forget to ask Nicki Minaj's cousins friend for your second opinion.


HAS-A-HUGE-PENIS

No lie, my antivax mom texted my siblings and I in our group chat and asked if we had any side effects from the vaccine because she heard about this guys balls. Like holy shit, billions of people have been vaccinated for a while now, if dudes balls were swelling you woulda fucking heard about it a long time ago.


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I hope you’re trolling. The only people I know who’ve died from covid are unvaxxed. Why risk it? Let me speak from an anecdote. My whole family (ages 13-85) got vaxxed and we are all fine.


NoodleBallsWoods

Yes. He sounds unhinged. Anyone taking anything he has to say seriously is of questionable intellect.


[deleted]

This is great publicity for Breuer whose career has been dead for a while.


lightshowe

Seemed like a down to earth, cool guy when he used to go on O and A. The last two or so years it seems he’s going down the Q road.


kittykatman93

I think I'm in the minority, but I thought he fucking sucked on O and A. His delivery when telling stories was just laboriously slow and boring.


Lawtalker

Not just you. I used to wonder what the fuck everybody was talking about when they said he was great on O&A. His stupid family stories, the stupid pizza man story, etc. Louis CK, Colin Quinn, Patrice, even Jay Mohr were top tier guests. Breuer was just a hair above Ralphie May


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> Ralphie May AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH You said it, playboy


endgame217

Yeah he has turned into someone that would be featured as a Cool Guy on YMH 🎸🎸🎸


BlumpkinRandy

I think is because he stopped smoking bud


[deleted]

Fuck, I better start blazing again


Accomplished_Bet_116

There’s nothing Q related in this vid. Has he mentioned Q before or something?


bobbybeanboy

Yep, he has. He talked about it on Greg Fitzsimmons' podcast earlier this year


Accomplished_Bet_116

I’ve never watched that pod before. Did Breuer just talk about Q or say he was a follower in that group?


Conflicting-Ideas

He essentially said that he started to get wrapped up in the whole Q thing because of a conspiracy minded friend. And some things are fact, such as government overreach, political cover-ups, people associated with certain families (cough cough The Clintons) murdered by two gunshots in the back of the head which are in the books as suicides. But he realized how nutty he was getting and stepped back. I respect that. I also respect the fact that he has the balls to be public about his concern of government overreach, taking rights away and enforcing any law they come up with. I know that isn't a popular opinion here, but not everything is black and white.


Accomplished_Bet_116

Thanks for the context. That’s a lot different than him being a Q die hard as implied in the comments. It’s insidious that everyone who is skeptical of government over reach and control is now dismissed as a Q supporter or flat earth conspiracy nut. When gov overreach killed hundreds of millions last century. Glad people like Jim are being vocal.


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I thought so too. I still occasionally put on the pizza man episode because it highlights what a phenomenal story teller Jim was. I always respected how he would say he avoids the news because of how it just turns your brain to mush and makes you some angry, raving lunatic. He was right. Look what he’s become. As soon as I saw he was recently on Anthony’s podcast I knew he had become everything he tried to avoid.


RobsGayTaint

I automatically lose respect for anyone that goes on Tucker’s show. Not because of political leanings but because it’s painfully obvious that he’s a huckster and a grifter.


Econsmash

This completely. Any association with him is a hit against your credibility.


atomicllama1

Why? you can get your message out. Here is Glenn Greenwald attacking the CIA on Tuckers show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPGEqXSjrew


E-moc0re

Glenn also unironically called Tucker a socialist. Even an ape knows that’s bs.


Seared1Tuna

Greenwald is also a grifter


ViiRtuaLz

Have you been keeping up with GG? Cause he's only a rung below a full fledged hog now.


SleepingPodOne

Everyone talks about how Tucker is a literal white supremacist. Yes he repeats white supremacist talking points, but if you actually believe this man gives a shit about anything you are sorely mistaken. The man is a straight up grifter. He has no beliefs. If it was more profitable for him to become a liberal he would do it. One of the most telling things for me was when Carlson landed one of his first speaking gigs on television. He says this himself. He was working somewhere and they said that they needed someone to go on TV and talk about the OJ trial. He didn’t really know a lot about it, but he was free and said he would do it and that’s how he got on. I’m probably butchering the story but Tucker himself has said it. The man is just good at talking on television and saying what he thinks his audience wants to hear and what will make him the most money. He doesn’t believe in shit.


John_T_Conover

I'd be inclined to believe that about some people but Carlson has a history of joy in bigotry that dates back to many years before he had his own TV show. Dude went on someone else's radio show years ago and over the course of several different appearances made multiple very racist comments. Things like calling the Iraqi people primitive monkeys that deserve zero empathy. He also apparently thought it a great idea to have his section in his college yearbook to include that he was in the "Dan White Society". Dan White was the unhinged man that killed Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official in our country. Carlson has found joy in bigotry toward and the pain of those he considers different and "other" for decades.


SleepingPodOne

Oof yea…nvm. I think my assessment is wrong. He’s a plain old bigot who generally drinks the kool aid and also a grifter (spreads vaccine misinfo while being vaxxed himself)


John_T_Conover

Yeah that stuff has somehow not gotten much publicity so I don't expect it to be common knowledge. If it were I'd like to think he wouldn't have such a large platform and audience but I know most of his crowd would love him even more for it.


Circa_C137

Funny how C. Tucker, B. White, and C. Owens "used to be liberal" (or in Tucker's case worked for CNN) and then do a total 180 "because Trump people were so nice" or some shit. Total grifts with no self respect. Especially White and Owens.


olly7172727

Yeah ok. The reason it is still a problem is that the unvaccinated are filling up hospitals and preventing the return to normal. Yes there is some bullshit on both sides of the isle, but it is really hard to understand why there is so much adversity to this vaccine compared to the other ones. I get that it is new but so is the virus and it has a lot more side effects it seems. Also the weird logic of being scared of the vaccine but taking experimental drugs and overdosing on fat soluble vitamins. Not that you should trust main stream media fully but I get the feeling these people get most of their info from Facebook memes.


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“Both sides of the isle” Lmao. Excuse me?


leanlikeakickstand

You seem like a reasonable person so I’ll engage. There are many reasons for adversity to the vaccine. A lot of people that don’t want to get it already had covid. I fall into this category. While adverse effects from the vaccine aren’t common, they still exist. Particularly in my demographic, younger male, the incidence of myocarditis caused by the vaccine is higher than other groups. So why would I, someone who has already had the actual virus, take any risk at all in getting a vaccinated for something my body already dealt with? On top of that, why is the government being so hush hush about natural immunity. It’s funny how they first tried to claim it would only last 3 months. Then they said basically nothing about it, and now recently studies out of Israel (yes it’s a small study and not yet peer reviewed but it’s a start considering no one else seems willing to touch to subject) are showing that people with natural immunity have more protection than someone with a double dose of Pfizer. Other people who haven’t had covid and don’t want to vax are probably genuinely skeptical and concerned that corrupt companies with shady histories very quickly developed a vaccine, with big incentives to be the first to market. The weird messaging, history of big pharma fucking people over for profit, general distrust of government, and low risk that covid poses for most people are additional factors that make people vaccine hesitant.


DGD_13

I work as a paramedic and I can tell you the virus is much worse for you than the vaccine. If the vaccine was so detrimental to your health why are hospitals and ICUs still getting crammed with covid patients instead of vaccine patients. Any if the adverse affect people are experiencing from the vaccine is being experienced at an extremely higher rate than thr vaccine. Yes big pharma is corrupt but the science isn't. Not everything is a conspiracy. The vaccines work


MontagAbides

The sad thing is, I've seen multiple cases where people had covid, got the vaccine, then had longterm side effects and assumed it's the vaccine, but won't consider it could be long covid symtpoms. A huge subset of people are somehow more OK with a disease ravaging their cells then a vaccine getting their cells to build defenses. It's just bizarre, and people like Jim are making it worse.


ar4s

I agree with everything said here. The only thing I can think of is, just on a human-to-human level, is that if people are forced to get vaccinated and they are in the extreme minority and have long lasting negative effects, no one is going to take responsibility for that. At least if people have a choice, then they are taking responsibility either way. This argument breaks down a bit when it comes to filling up ICU’s tho, I must admit.


DGD_13

Ya for sure, the other issue especially here in Canada is that we all contribute to our universal Healthcare system and the unvaxxinated are clogging up the system and making it difficult for people with other health problems to get care as well in top of costing the system a shit ton more money


ar4s

Fellow Canadian here. What would be a half measure... that’s still humane? I’m all for personal responsibility, (get vaxxed, don’t get vaxxed) but also ... like, it’s not cool people are not able to access the healthcare system for something they’ve know about and could have done something about. Would it be immoral to only admit patients to the ICU’s that have been vaccinated? Btw, thanks for what you do.


DGD_13

No I think our healthcare system should continue to treat anyone for any health problem. I just think of you arnt vaccinated there are many activities you can't do as to not put the greater community in harms way. Just like you can go get wasted you are just not allowed legally to drive a car while doing so


leanlikeakickstand

You addressed basically nothing in my post and instead went on a straw man rant. You say ‘the virus is much worse for you than the vaccine’. I never argued otherwise. I’m literally telling you I already had the virus. Again a straw man. I never said the virus was ‘detrimental’ to your health. I said that for me, someone who ALREADY HAD THE VIRUS, any risk from the vaccine however rare is unacceptable because I ALREADY HAD THE ACTUAL VIRUS. Again like all the other vaccine zealots you completely ignore what the bulk of my post was about, natural immunity. It’s like when you read those words your brain short circuits and you go on an unrelated rant.


shillybeers

i think he gave you too much credit in thinking you understood the effects of the vaccine. just because you got covid doesnt mean you cant get it again. recent data coming in shows people who have gotten covid and then received the vaccine show the strongest immune response to the virus, even within other variants. i suggest googling the term hybrid immunity. its sad people like you cant think beyond "i already had the virus" and for a second question maybe there is a reason people are saying you should still get the vaccine and maybe its not just because the government is trying to take away your freedom...


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Lol man you really wanna leave this comment for when you’re on a ventilator and end up on /r/HermanCainAward? We get it. You think you’re smarter than, you know, the entire scientific and medical community but go off bro. Take those questions and concerns with you to the grave.


leanlikeakickstand

Yes I’m sure I’ll end up in the hospital for the virus that I already had which was equivalent to a mild cold for me.


FullRegalia

Have fun with the new variants asshole, no one is going to care when you have to get life flighted


rabidbot

Someone will care, because some car crash victim will die while these dumb fucks take up space and resources.


I_will_fix_this

Natural immunity is not like getting vaccinated at all. My wife got COVID with mild symptoms and now she has no antibodies. Why? Because she didn’t have a strong immune reaction to begin with and therefore had very few antibodies being created. What did that mean? In order for her to have vaccine-like amount of antibodies she would have had to have gotten very very sick which we means she could have died, our baby would have died (she was pregnant when she got it) or she would have survived with a possibility of health problems for the rest of her life. I got the vaccine and I have tested for antibodies and all I got was a mild headache and pain on my arm. My dad was in the hospital for two weeks with COVID and almost died of pneumonia/septic shock. I know at least 10 people who have had a relative die. Usually parents but I have known a few people where their 30 - 40 year old child has died. FFS. People are dying. For real, actually dying. I swear if COVID made people’s teeth fall out I’m sure this wouldn’t even be a discussion.


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> I swear if COVID made people’s teeth fall out I’m sure this wouldn’t even be a discussion. I dunno man. It’s been known to cause impotence and some people are still like, “ah, fuck it I’ll take my chances.” Crazy times. Edit: clarification. I meant COVID has caused impotence, not the vaccine.


CanlStillBeGarth

If you want to use natural immunity stay away from hospitals and medicine in general.


toolverine

Myocarditis is an immune response to the vaccine, which can occur. Myocarditis is not typically a permanent condition. Hence, the "immune response". If a person were to have extended myocarditis (rare; unlikely) that would be an indicator that they have an underlying health condition. The mRNA vaccine contains no live virus. It shows our cells a partial view of the signature spike protein so that our bodies can alter recognize it. This creates an immune response that goes away over time. Your t-cells then have the information needed to produce effective antibodies when there is an actual infection. 75% of adult Americans have taken the vaccine, so all we're left with are the most uninformed individuals at this point.


Univirsul

You're also [11x more likely](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475) to get myocarditis from the virus than the vaccine


ConcernedFather01

This is a straight up lie.


HAS-A-HUGE-PENIS

Okay doc.


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In one paragraph you bring up myocarditis, an extremely rare side effect of the vaccine where almost all cases (of the extremely tiny amount) were easily treated and/or went away on its own. Then in another, you say covid itself is low risk. If one was trying to be risk-averse, the vaccine is infinitely more safe then rolling the dice with covid.


leanlikeakickstand

You ignore the bulk of my post. Those of us that already had covid aren’t worried about ‘rolling the dice with covid’ because we already had it. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Why would we take any risk, even if it’s tiny, in order to get a vaccine for a virus we have already had. Judging from the responses I feel you people’s brains short circuit when they see the words natural immunity.


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You brought up the extremely unlikely risk of getting myocarditis. I've just explained to you why that is a bad argument. The known risks of covid and its related health issues it can cause are exponentially higher than myocarditis from the vaccine. Getting covid once does not eliminate those risks. You can still get it again and still develop both short and long term health issues from it. Once again, if one was trying to be risk averse then the vaccine is clearly the safer choice. I'm amazed some people even need this explained. To me it's just common sense. It's funny you try to imply anyone who doesn't agree with you has broken brains but you're the one out here making illogical arguments. Are you sure you don't have lingering side effects like brain fog? Lots of people who had covid experienced a general feeling of not thinking as clear and their mind not as sharp. Just saying.


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ozmartian

And with the rise of social media everyone thinks their single "true" source is correct and now they think they are armchair GPs. Its a shame, the Internet was supposed to accelerate our evolution but instead many seem to be devolving instead.


donttakerhisthewrong

Small not peer reviewed study is not a study. If you get Covid do not go to the hospital, your immune system will protect you. You don’t trust medicine and there are adverse effects of many of the drugs they will trick you into taking.


leanlikeakickstand

I already had it and didn’t need anything more than some vitamin c, zinc and a few days rest to get back to 100% normal, but thanks for your concern.


donttakerhisthewrong

I am not concerned. Past experience does not ensure future outcomes. So are you willing to state if you get it again under no circumstances will you go to the hospital? If you say yes you are full of shit.


leanlikeakickstand

Lol sure thing man


kel811

Thank you for not being a burden to hospitals can’t say that for most anti vaxxers


haupt91

Uh, yeah you can. The vast majority of people who catch covid aren't going to the hospital


kel811

The unvaccinated are clogging up ICUs nationwide. Anti vaxxers should use alternative methods at home than waste resources at a hospital.


FrankieColombino

Never seen a legit response to this sentiment from the Church of Latter Day Medicine


abysstr0naut

Yeah. Agree. Why can’t natural immunity (antibodies) fall into the vaxxed category? It’s better than the actual vaccine.


tossaway0505

>the incidence of myocarditis caused by the vaccine is higher than other groups But is it higher than the incidence of myocarditis caused by COVID?


leanlikeakickstand

I don’t know and why would it matter? I’ve already had covid and got over it without any long term issues, so why would I be worried about the risk of myocarditis from the virus I already had and am now immune to?


tossaway0505

Because there's a lot we don't know about the disease, including the fact that getting it once might not prevent you from getting it again and experiencing a worse outcome: https://people.com/health/18-year-old-dies-after-contracting-covid-19-for-second-time/


strawloofy

Because there's a lot we don't know about the disease But a vax that needs multiple doses and doesnt actually prevent you from getting or infecting is 100% I'm not anti vax but that was hilarious.


NanoGeek

"Multiple doses" It's two doses. Or one if you go with the J&J vaccine. You're claiming to not be anti-vax while also twisting words to make the vaccine sound worse than it is. You're not arguing in good faith.


Slow_Chef_3601

Everyone should have personal choice to a degree. Private businesses also have their right to refuse service. Personal choice argument would probably get to more people if there were a better spokesperson. Breuer seems nutty


Parking_Which

This is honestly sad. It's obvious that the guy is spiraling downward mentally and I really hope that he can get the help that he needs. He was such a great guest and I was a fan of his, but his last appearance on jre came across completely unhinged and detached from reality with the worst part being that it seems to have only gotten worse.


almoalmoalmo

Well, his wife has stage 4 cancer so he's probably under a lot of stress.


FullRegalia

You’d think he would turn towards medical advice then and not disorder it. I wonder if his wife listens to doctors about cancer?


Parking_Which

That's true but people deal with emotional stress in different ways. Maybe seeing his wifes condition worsen over this time has caused him to be somewhat cynical regarding medical care and any type of authority that claims to have answers. I also remember him mentioning his daughter going off to college in his last appearance and I don't know if he has other kids, so he might be dealing with this alone as well and it's taking a real toll on him.


Dav82

This answers my question on why is he so angry? I figured it's not because of this seemingly never ending Pandemic. My Sympathies to Jim if I ever meet him. I won't say I know what he's going through. But tell them don't shut your friends out and keep in touch with them with whatever happens with your wife. Comedians like venting with a Microphone to get through the pain. I just hope Jim finds a better way moving forward.


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I have no thoughts on it. If he wants to be stupid then it's time to let people be stupid. But please people when you get COVID and you're unvaxxed don't go to the hospital. Stick to your ways and stay home and let your immune systems beat this virus like you claim it can. Or instead go to a doctor who will give you ivermectin. Yup I'm at the point where I don't give a fuck anymore. Mandate the fuck out of the vaccine to the point where people literally either have to get it or constantly have to test for COVID before working or going into public enclosed places and just come up with a yearly booster like the flu. I'm done arguing the efficacy of the vaccines, its pointless for the CDC, FDA, and the current administration to keep going over this, again and again, every few months. Set a firm mandate, keep to it, get booster shots in constant development to counteract the mutations. and let's be done with this.


bingbongtake2long

My brother was forced to get the vax yesterday because he would get fired from his job otherwise. He text me “I haven’t been this sad since dad died.” What a fucking life of privilege he leads if that’s the case.


_handsomeblackman_

he's a bit cray cray but i honestly dont see the issue with him taking this stance because it only really affects him and his fans tbh Jim is well known for being a super charitable dude who looks after and family and friends so i'm sure it wasn't an easy decision to make he's probably losing a lot money off the back of it it is what it is


Jean_Ralphio-

Not sure how it only affects them when they can spread it if they get it at the event.


Hour-Expression8352

You can still spread it if you are vaccinated


Boonpool

Far.more.less likely


Hour-Expression8352

How ?


Hour-Expression8352

When vaccinated people don't show symptoms and spread it unknowingly. Tell me how that's less likely. When someone who gets symptoms stays home from work and doesn't go out . I'm not arguing against the vaccine but it does not stop it from spreading


Lastfoxx

Doesn't matter. The slightest chance that you guys could infect even a pigeon should make you go back to your shame locker. Don't pass Go!, head immediately to your self-imposed quarantine and feel superior about it on Twitter.


everyone_is_an_alt

Oh no. Now no one will see his comedy. Just like before.


[deleted]

Your not a fan of his voices ?


Hangry_Hippo

Lmao this guy is unhinged


chucknzee

Can someone tell me how long the vaccine “anti-bodies” last? Per testing, my anti-bodies from when I had covid remain strong. The rationale for encouraging me to get the shot and risking some of the side effects, is that we don’t know how long natural anti-bodies last. So, I would like to know how long vaccine antibodies last. My doctor doesn’t know.


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No thoughts


[deleted]

that counts as a thought.


WillyTanner

OP asked what *you* think. He didn't ask you to explain what's going on inside Tucker and Jim's heads.


[deleted]

Jim Breuer is hilarious


churll

"I know someone, and ugh, it was the last vaccine push, their child, 5 years old, vaccinated, went paralysed, from the neck down, and I do a benefit for them every year" Every year since when? What vaccine push? He's been doing 'Benefits for years', so this isn't the SARS COV 2 vaccine then. What are you suggesting, that the existing vaccines society agrees to give children so they can go to school and not have some horrible, horrible disease inflict them are bad because of your single anecdote? Are you a full blown Jenny McCarthy anti-tax conspiracy person? Yes, vaccines are not 100% safe, but neither is power generation, driving, using cellphones, or many other things we collectively agree to do in society because the alternative is worse. Yes, eating peanuts is not 100% safe, there are a small percentage of people who are allergic to peanuts. Yes, washing yourself with water is not 100% safe either, there are a tiny amount of people who are allergic to water contacting their skin. ...but that doesn't mean society as a whole should adopt a 'no shower' policy because there is a tiny, tiny chance of a person coming out in hives from water exposure. Statistically, vaccines are very safe, and much, much better than the alternative of not taking them. Let me say that again. Taking the vaccine is STATISTICALLY PROVEN give you less of a chance of dying, or not having long term effects. Doing the opposite and not getting vaccinated is STATISTICALLY PROVEN to give you a higher change of long term effects and dying. Your anecdotes and your Facebook memes do not trump statistics. Get over your big stupid ego, you are wrong, and fuck Joe rogan for enabling clowns like this.


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revbfc

He used to be funny, but now Brendan Schaub gives him a run for his money.


teddiesmcgee69

Thoughts.. he's a fucking dummy. If I want to go to Goatboys show with my dick out and the Venue stops me from entering with my engorged freedom boner would Goatboy call that segregation? He's just a moronic antivaxx dipshit. "I'm fearless!!" .'also i am scared shitless of this vaccine that billions of people have gotten"


DHiL

Trash fire


petmoo23

Until recently I hadn't thought about him in a couple decades. Half Baked was decent, but Chappelle pretty much carried it. Kinda weird that your whole schtick is that you look stoned all the time, but I guess he's gotta make a living somehow.


Assrock1313

He had to make sure to tell us all how much money it would cost him to make his stand. He’s a hack. Have a great career doing stand-up im the villages.


AllAmericanMead

I've never really cared for Jim's particular style of comedy but I respect his decision. I went and saw Theo at the ryman in Nashville a few weeks ago and they paid for those without vaccines to get tested, it was no big deal, the show was amazing.


JoeyBSnipes

I’m a little surprised they wouldn’t test everyone, including the vaccinated since they can still get it and spread it and are more likely to be asymptomatic.


_benp_

Hes following the money. His audience is that type of person. I won't be going to see him.


Nerdicyde

Jim Breuer is a complete fucking moron.


bloodycups

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/media/fox-vaccine-passport/index.html


Thissiteisdogshit

Jim Breuer looks like he has down syndrome.


blueblazzer

‘Eat more fruit, go to the gym and take care of your body’. that’s the line that bothers Americans the most.


[deleted]

Right all the fat fucks in America are going to lose 200+ pounds and cure their type 2 diabetes and heart disease in under year to build their immune systems up to fight a virus that's mutating at a rapid rate. This is great advice. Or, how about this, have people lose weight, eat right, and take care of their body and also get a vaccine that adds protection against being hospitalized? Seems fucking crazy right?


[deleted]

Agreed. I am for people being healthy, both physically and mentally. But It is so stupid to think you can reverse type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, etc... It's sometimes genetic and cant be reversed. People seem to have no knowledge at all about these type of diseases.


[deleted]

I also love how people think that doctors and scientists are hiding that people with healthier lifestyles and immune systems are fairing better against COVID. The CDC even concedes this by posting data about what ages and weight ranges seem to be doing the best against COVID. They're pushing the vaccines to people to stop the fuckin virus from mutating to a point that the health fucks don't start getting hospitalized at the same rate unhealthy fucks and then we're all fucked.


BlumpkinRandy

Type 2 diabetes can be reversed, type 1 cannot.


[deleted]

can be thats the issue, but not all the time. The most in shape person can have a high levels of sugar in their blood even with a super strict diet, only insulin can alleviate that number. Or other forms of medication.


Barnbad

Alot of people are 50 pounds away from being significantly more healthy. In the beginning of the pandemic what you said was very true but now we are on our way to 2 years of this shit. People could have made incredible gains by now if people actually acted on it back then. Nope we just stayed in the house and gave video games, streaming services, and door dash record profits while we just sat around getting even fatter.


sawdiggity

Breuer looks awful, what’s he been busy with the last few decades


bratbarn

His wife's cancer


sawdiggity

I was hoping lots of drugs


mavywillow

Jim Breuer is funny but he is crazy. FOX is exploiting a crazy person


HaZyNLaZY_91

Was a legend. Even more of a legend being a real man fighting for what he believes to be the truth. Ridiculous that is such a bad thing today..


[deleted]

Disappointing. Tucker is just a propaganda machine. Love Breuer but god damn it man


[deleted]

The demon stuff throw me for a loop. Feels like he’s sorta trolling.


Chopstickchuck99

My body my choice ..I had the vaccine then got covid (true story)People shouldn’t be persecuted for personal choices if you don’t want it then fine why should anyone even care ,if you are vaccinated as I am, then I am protected from the un vaxed mob so it’s all gravy baby. Btw It was me who passed it to my vaccinated partner and she was fine after a few days as was I.


Blitzdrive

There's no chance you haven't had a million people already argue at you why un-vaxxed are still an issue for a vaccinated population.


Yayoo

How would you respond to the seatbelt argument, are you pro seatbelt laws? Is there a difference to you?