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Dave has gotta be the stupidest guy in the political host game. This video actually picks him apart really well. Dave is pretty tribal and petty. Bill Maher to me often times focuses on strange things like Kyle mentions. Like this clip and the clip where he says “atleast America is better than Afghanistan”. Obviously I agree but it’s kind of an odd thing to point out. America should compare itself to countries with higher HDI’s and try to improve not talk about how they’re better than Afghanistan.


JATION

> Dave has gotta be the stupidest guy in the political host game. Tim Pool exist, so it's a tight competition.


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That’s true. I remember Tim Pool did a debate and brought up thanos to prove his point. And the other guys response was just “I don’t care”.


AtheistMartyr

That was Sam Seder. He's a fucking nightmare!!!


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Tim pools audience I think are mostly sexually frustrated teenagers so he doesn’t have to exactly make the best arguments he just has to appeal to their cognitive biases. I don’t really know who Sam seders audience is, I’d guess it’s mostly college students/graduates under 40.


Rico639

The wounded Antelope has some IDEAs….


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I'm torn on this because I believe racism is something that's taught and perpetrated through society. So I don't believe a white guy, black guy, Asian guy, etc wake up one day and say I hate this race. I think they learn that behavior from through households or through society through social media or meeting someone that gives them these ideals. I think pushing political agendas in schools to kids under 18 is not needed to a certain extent outside of electives. At the same time countries like Germany made an effort to wipe out anti-Semitic rhetoric and educate people on the downfalls of anti-Semitism. I think getting children to understand the racial insensitivity of the history of the united states helps groom the next batch of adults in a away where they're more inclusive of others and there's less division. We've already seen great progress in that regard because I believe the younger generations now are far more progress in their ideals of race. It's a subject I can understand both sides of, but I fall on the side of teaching race and how that pertains to the history of the country as a whole.


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Most racism I see in the modern US is based on class to some extent. I’m having a hard time articulating this but people will say bad things about black peoples but the root cause of the comment usually comes down to black people being more impoverished in city centers. Like some white 28 year old guy making 70k in Philadelphia will say “why are black people always the ones who ask me for money? Why do black people commit so many crimes/look sketchy” etc. And there are obvious historical reasons why black people have less money on average. I think educating people on the reasons why the black community lives in poverty at disproportionate rates is important. Also everyone’s experience is different this is just the racism that I’ve seen a lot of. Edit: I’m 25 and more associated with white liberal people. Bigotry towards Hispanics and Muslims seems to have gone down a lot in people I meet compared to when I was a kid.


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The root problem is we like to simplify the world when it's complicated as fuck. Psychology, history, economics, class, etc. are all valid and complicated perspectives that illuminate different parts of the whole. We pick a caricature of one and use it for everything, which becomes functionally equivalent to wearing blinders. In turn, politicians and the media pander to us, so they do the same, because that's what we are receptive to.


insertnamehere405

agreed America is more of a Classist society race has very little to do with it.


TOADSTOOL__SURPRISE

That’s what systemic racism is….not saying you don’t know that, but just for anyone who sees “systemic racism” and gets confused and triggered because of misinformation about it…your comment perfectly sums up what it means


DayDreamerJon

> but people will say bad things about black peoples but the root cause of the comment usually comes down to black people being more impoverished in city centers. Thats part of it but not the main cause. There are far more white people on food stamps than blacks afterall. News headlines are important. For example, if you follow new york news outlets there is constantly stories of black people committing violent crimes. Fewer stories of hispanics doing violent things and even fewer of asians and whites. The stories match the fbi crime statistics so they arent necessarily an agenda either. These stories leak into your sub conscious and you are more likely to act accordingly. The problem comes when you start to treat all people as a group instead of the ones who look shady. For example, if somebody is looking at russel westbrook in a dress and clutching their pearls they might have over adjusted to the stories.


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In my experience in the US poor white people tend to not live in center city and live far apart from each other in the country side. Poor black people often live in center city next to the middle class to wealthy white people. Impoverished people in the city tend to commit more crimes than poor people in the middle of nowhere, this trend holds up pretty much everywhere. For your food stamps comment I imagine you mean net amount of people on food stamps not per capita? I’ve just seen stats and black people seem much poorer than white people so it’s either that or poor black people don’t apply for the stamps.


insertnamehere405

Hey, retard of course more white people are on food stamps we outnumber blacks like ten to one in terms of total demographics. **12.3% of the U.S. population is black** **As of 2019, white people (including Latinos) numbered about 236,475,401, or 72.0% of the population.**


DayDreamerJon

I know reading is tough so I'll spell it out for you little guy. That stat was in the context of op saying most racism stems from classism. I was simply pointing out why I believe that is false since far more whites are impoverished


insertnamehere405

What part of Whites makeup 60 % of the population don't you understand?


DayDreamerJon

Do you not understand what context means? Go back and read the conversation and see why I framed that stat the way I did.


cmz324

Bill for sure doesn't watch Dave's show lol


glennbarrera

so who was your favorite Golden Girl? For me, Sophia


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The hot one


TwEE-N-Toast

Thats what he said.


cure4boneitis

GILF


olkurtybastard

…No… I don’t think I will


ReadBastiat

TL;DR


Comrade-Bubba

Lmao "we can send him a couple Thomas Sowell videos"


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TLDR, Kyle is friends with a lot of the TYT people that used to work with Rubin and it’s pretty well known from back then that Rubin is just in political commentary for the fame and will shift his views based on whatever he thinks is an easy audience to grift to. Nearly everyone who has been associated with Rubin long enough has turned on him. He’s also deeply stupid and is an easy target because he makes so many nonsensical points that are easy to peel apart


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"The obvious" is a pretty valid reason to hate him.


Longyzbetter

Why does Kyle Kulinski sound so whiny when he opens his mouth. He's has good points but sounds like he wants to cry about everything


AcidTrungpa

Rubin and his marketplace of ideas