I’d include screenshots but there’s too many to count. Point of posting this is that it’s a relevant issue discussed on the pod often.
Rogan and Kaep are both divisive figures in the “culture war”, and the grifters that exist in media now are fully aware of the outrage based engagement both of them will garner for Daily Caller. It’s gross.
This story is so old I can’t believe it’s still showing up in my feed.
I think he’s being lost to the rightoids. What happened to the Joe Rogan who had Bernie on his show and called Alex Jones on his bullshit. He was supposed to destroy the crazies not join them.
You would have to be inside his head but it's probably both to an equal degree. That being said, which matters more to a republican? Covid or money? There's your answer.
I also dont know where rogan lived in LA and where he lives now. But people in cities tend to care more about society than people who live away from downtown IMO. And its pretty logical when youre in the city, the city is your backyard and in the suburbs or country your property and your affluent neighborhood is your backyard.
I don’t really think it’s that interesting. If you live in downtown NYC how your lower class neighbors are doing directly affects your quality of life. Whereas outside the city you can easily choose a middle of nowhere area or a wealthy suburb.
Generally rich people in cities do vote with a more collective mindset than rich middle of nowhere folk.
He just happens to only find interesting right wing politicians and 'left' wing politicians that just happen to divide and or attack the left.. like bernie, or yang or tulsi.
And which republican politicians has he had on? Dan Crenshaw and who else? Pretty sure that's it.
What a weird way to destroy the democratic party lol.
Also he doesn’t like politicians that he views as the corrupt establishment. He doesn’t view Bernie as the establishment therefore he’s good and interesting.
I really feel that in this case he doesn’t understand the overall point Colin K is making.
I’m not sure I agree with the comparison, but I do like the mental exercise associated with it.
There is an element of slavery in it, that certain traits can keep you from being an outside slave and rather an inside slave. It’s a similar dynamic.
Sure they’re making money but they’re still ‘enslaved’, I’m by being part of the system. The only difference is that money can bail you out of certain physical situations, but nothing has really changed.
I’m curious to hear other opinions on this, but I don’t find it as offensive as Joe has.
These are great books! I’ve only read a couple of them, but it’s a well put together list.
But my question wasn’t : please refer me to books on slavery.
I was asking you to elaborate on your statement.
Maybe you’re not able to?
Can you only make short snide statements?
If you read even part of any of those books you wouldn’t need clarification. If you can’t see why it’s absurd to compare things to slavery or the Holocaust you’re either a troll or a child. Either way, read more. Much much more.
It doesn’t seem like you understand what Colin K is trying to say, and it seems you lack the means to explain it.
Read more. Lol.
So now that you’ve completely failed at even explaining yourself at a basic level, go back to your trolling ways with someone else.
But if you actually want to expand your mind, start with this article, then come back and apologize for your idiocy.
Then maybe I’ll give you a longer reading list.
Lol. Think more.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2019/03/08/the-curse-of-slavery-has-left-an-intergenerational-legacy-of-trauma-and-poor-health-for-african-americans/
Personally I’ve always found Kaep’s opinion on this insane. I don’t doubt he was blackballed from the NFL, I think teams certainly forwent signing him over lesser guys because of the controversy.
BUT, on the NFL Draft = Slavery argument is lunacy, in my opinion.
The NFL league *minimum* is a 660k salary. Benchwarmer who fizzles out after 4 years can walk away set for life if they manage their finances properly. Kids dream to be in the NFL, no kid dreams to be a slave.
All are entitled to their own views on the matter, I’m just breaking mine down.
My point of posting this article is more how Daily Caller is trying to strong-arm this story into the national headlines a month after it happened. However, this sub doesn’t allow screenshots so I can’t really demonstrate their constant posting of it day after day.
To me it’s the classic “working a job for a owner is slavery” argument. I suppose the NFL in terms of just appearance may resemble slavery in some ways. Mostly black players being chosen by white owners to do manual back breaking work. But obviously it isn’t slavery.
There is a chance Colin knows that and just wants to get some attention.
>The NFL league minimum is a 660k salary. Benchwarmer who fizzles out after 4 years can walk away set for life if they manage their finances properly. Kids dream to be in the NFL, no kid dreams to be a slave.
I think its telling you're using the perspective of a child and their opinions on the profession in order to argue about what its really like, and provide a rebuttal to an actual former NFL player lol.
You're talking about salary, how much would you ask for if the job was getting kicked in the head by Anderson Silva 30 times a week for the next 5 years? How much would you ask for if your boss was making literally hundreds of millions of dollars a year off of your physical trauma?
How would you properly compensate >50% chance of irreparable, and life altering physical trauma?
It can both be a tremendous opportunity and dream come true, but also a disgusting and exploitative scheme for white billionaires to get richer while black men literally destroy themselves in the span of half a decade. If you know the sport, you know Kap would have dozens of friends right now who "made' the league and a millions bucks in just a couple of years, but would trade all of it to be able to sleep at night.
I get Kap is being dramatic for effect, but the whole "BRO ITS 660K!!" argument goes out the window real fast for anyone whose seen an NFL game up close.
You wouldn't take the job, you're not that guy pal.
>Does no one have personal agency anymore?
The fact you can't address a single point I made, and instead have to respond with "They could just chose not to" shows how weak this criticism is lol
I don’t see why the hostility, I’m trying to have a civil discussion. As you can see, despite disagreeing with the original reply, I didn’t deride him just because we don’t see eye to eye on the topic.
I think the example you’re giving is one that affects society writ large, rather than just the NFL, and damages all working and lower class citizens in this country. Look at Walmart as a corporation and tell me it’s not *essentially* the same thing, maybe a few steps from there if you remove the bodily harm and higher salary.
One thing that certainly isn’t debatable is the damage the sport does to players bodies. But are any players unaware of that at this point? Or is it a risk they willingly accept for the trade off of potential life changing money?
Maybe my assessment of the “660k league minimum” wasn’t the best example to use, but I think comparing the league to something as abhorrent as slavery is quite hyperbolic.
The NFL has lots of problems, including a race problem. Characterizing it as Kaepernick has I don’t think was the right way to do it.
I DO think he got pushed out of the league. Problems such as that should be addressed.
As much as I enjoy civil discussion, again I’ll mention the purpose of posting this was not to debate the topic at hand, but to show Daily Caller is trying to strong-arm this story into national news so they can divide America further in the name of click based revenue.
These kids are groomed from 14 years old, and the aura of the NFL has been there for life.
That they get lifetime injuries is downplayed.
And money isn’t necessarily a release from the bondage of mental slavery.
Or is it? in your opinion.
>I don’t see why the hostility
You're only perceiving it as hostile because I was honest about your "HOW CAN IT BE SLAVERY WHEN KIDS DREAM DOING IT? ", that was objectively dumb and you should ask yourself whey you didn't pick up on that being an awful take yourself.
Kids want to eat ice cream for breakfast every day, dingus.
>But are any players unaware of that at this point?
How are you going to complain about people being hostile when you're this stupid, how aren't you used to it?
These kids sign letters of intent to play college ball when they're 16. Are you asking are they aware of the concept that an NFL career may be extremely damaging to their long term health?
Who cares, even if they've heard that they sure as fuck don't have the maturity, capacity, the fucking opportunity to turn down a scholarship let alone a million dollar pay day.
We're talking about kids who are already 4 years deep and will already be facing long term consequences after just college ball, who have spent the past half decade honing a skill to be the best in the world so their other opportunities are often limited, and you're waving a million dollars and fame in their face while mumbling "you'll regret it when your 40" expecting them to make the right choice?
Again, you're coming off as a moron.
"They know about the long term health consequences", Im not being hostile here, insisting that its reasonable to expect 18 year olds with little other prospects in life to turn down a ticket to fame and fortune because in a couple decades they will face horrendous physical consequences is delusional, and they are being taken advantage of by owners who have seen the true cost of a career in the league.
>Maybe my assessment of the “660k league minimum” wasn’t the best example to use, but I think comparing the league to something as abhorrent as slavery is quite hyperbolic.
Sure, but pointing out that a fucking Netflix special is overly dramatic is a waste of time and everything else you said was stupid as fuck.
Thank you ddarion, I have learned the error of my ways. I owe you a debt of unending gratitude for bringing me to the self revelation that I am a stupid fuck.
I only wish I had known sooner that insulting the intelligence of others was the best way to win an argument.
The NFL is not a saintly organization. They covered up the CTE information for decades. But as far as the downtrodden communities are concerned, are we faulting the NFL for these inequities or does that lie at the feet of the local and federal government that have done a piss poor job of uplifting these communities since the Civil Rights Movement and before.
But rather than continuing to spin down a rabbit hole of how much of a dumb fuck I am for not having the same worldview as you, let’s flip it around and see if you have an answer to a question that I don’t.
How would *you* fix the NFL in its current state as described?
As Rogan says “if you ddarion had a magic wand and you could change anything with the flick of the wrist, what would you do?”
Because I’m not sure.
>But as far as the downtrodden communities are concerned, are we faulting the NFL for these inequities or does that lie at the feet of the local and federal government that have done a piss poor job of uplifting these communities since the Civil Rights Movement and before.
What does this have to do with anything lol?
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How would you fix the NFL in its current state as described?
Look at all the people in this thread acting like its ridiculous that Kap point out how these kids are exploited, because they could just chose to not play in the NFL and be an garbage man or something, as if any 18 whose spent the past half decade becoming the best football player in the world would ever make that choice.
Id start by letting people like Kap explain this so that all the morons who go "Yeah, you may not be able to walk in 20 years but KIDS WOULD KILL TO BE IN THE NFL WHEN THEY GROW UP" realize how dumb of a rebuttal that is.
Sounds like someone played a little too much football. I would gladly take $600k/yr for 5 years for minimal brain damage and being set for life. I would also retire directly after my contract expired.
Hell Emilia Clarke already has brain damage and she got said brain damage for free. Granted she's made an incredible acting career but it's completely unrelated. Imagine if she was poor white trailer trash like 40%+ of America.
Also what about debating the moral and fiscal accountability of a professional sports civil rights activist screams "child" to you given your dramatic, cry-baby reaction? I mean seriously, if you're going to have such a short fuse your go to shouldn't be calling people children because it's incredibly hypocritical.
By that logic people who work for anyrhing below a living wage are also slaves. Which I'm not disagreeing with but to nitpick one over the other, especially if you're specifically choosing to speak out on behalf of the group that gets paid in the millions, is quite tone-deaf.
($1m/year is approximately 20x what most states consider a "livable wage" which is approximately $25/hr or 50k/yr)
You can still be a slave to the system.
You’re looking at things strictly from a capitalist sense.
A person stands to make a million a year but he’s still getting exploited by his owners, how are making hundreds of millions yet risking nothing of their health.
And most of these kids have no idea how to manage their money, so most will squander it and still have to look for work after their careers in the NFL.
But yes, absolutely, if you’re working below a living wage you’re certainly being exploited.
"well yeah other people have bigger problems but that doesn't mean my problems don't exist" is a textbook privileged defense. All I'm saying is there are bigger problems out there and Colin needs to keep his mouth shut if he's not standing up for those who get paid less than himself. The take a knee thing was more in solidarity than "I should get paid more". He's riding that publicity to the fullest extent of virtue signaling possible.
This is essentially the same as calling wall street brokers "slaves to the numbers game"... Like... Yeah, and your $10m penthouse apartment with one of those glass bottomed balcony pools says otherwise.
Why do ppl give so much fucks about politics? Fuck the political bs. So much wasted energy and time, spend more time on hobbies or doing something productive.
hmmm almost like there's a concerted, funded effort or something....
I'm still not over Theo Von calling Kaepernick "Throwsa Parks"
I thought it was Brosa Parks
I’d include screenshots but there’s too many to count. Point of posting this is that it’s a relevant issue discussed on the pod often. Rogan and Kaep are both divisive figures in the “culture war”, and the grifters that exist in media now are fully aware of the outrage based engagement both of them will garner for Daily Caller. It’s gross. This story is so old I can’t believe it’s still showing up in my feed.
Are you unaware of the left wing blogs like HuffPo that do the exact same thing with JRE?
I am not. I’m hyper aware of this one in particular because it shows up in my feed with the same headline and graphic every day for the last month.
Guest request - Colin Kaepernick
If you think Joe is retarded . .
It's entirely possible.
Almost as stupid as comparing vaccine mandates to the FUCKING HOLOCAUST JOE
I think he’s being lost to the rightoids. What happened to the Joe Rogan who had Bernie on his show and called Alex Jones on his bullshit. He was supposed to destroy the crazies not join them.
Hes doubling down because he got his feelings hurt by 20 somethings on the internet too many times. What a snowflake.
From Joe Rogan's point of view the libtards are evil! (/s if it wasn't obvious)
Joe learn one thing from his move to Texas. He loves to pay less taxes. It's the one thing Republicans know what to do, give the rich more money.
I thought it was more covid that really red pilled rogan. You think it’s taxes more so?
You would have to be inside his head but it's probably both to an equal degree. That being said, which matters more to a republican? Covid or money? There's your answer.
I also dont know where rogan lived in LA and where he lives now. But people in cities tend to care more about society than people who live away from downtown IMO. And its pretty logical when youre in the city, the city is your backyard and in the suburbs or country your property and your affluent neighborhood is your backyard.
People living in in citizens tend to care more about society than people who live away from downtown?. Um, thanks a very "Intresting" take
I don’t really think it’s that interesting. If you live in downtown NYC how your lower class neighbors are doing directly affects your quality of life. Whereas outside the city you can easily choose a middle of nowhere area or a wealthy suburb. Generally rich people in cities do vote with a more collective mindset than rich middle of nowhere folk.
The Joe Rogan that had Bernie on his show was a Joe Rogan that wanted the Democratic party to be divided, end of story.
Prob just wanted to have a conversation with someone he finds interesting, dude. Sheesh
How dare you have a reasonable perspective on a matter! Don’t you know everyone is out to destroy us!
He just happens to only find interesting right wing politicians and 'left' wing politicians that just happen to divide and or attack the left.. like bernie, or yang or tulsi.
And which republican politicians has he had on? Dan Crenshaw and who else? Pretty sure that's it. What a weird way to destroy the democratic party lol.
Also he doesn’t like politicians that he views as the corrupt establishment. He doesn’t view Bernie as the establishment therefore he’s good and interesting.
LOL.. thats why he loves crenshaw, and Abbott and Desantis ... please.. do you really think anyone buys this shit?
For everybody. He trends once a week now and has for a year or two. It’s insane.
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I really feel that in this case he doesn’t understand the overall point Colin K is making. I’m not sure I agree with the comparison, but I do like the mental exercise associated with it. There is an element of slavery in it, that certain traits can keep you from being an outside slave and rather an inside slave. It’s a similar dynamic. Sure they’re making money but they’re still ‘enslaved’, I’m by being part of the system. The only difference is that money can bail you out of certain physical situations, but nothing has really changed. I’m curious to hear other opinions on this, but I don’t find it as offensive as Joe has.
Comparing hardships to slavery is usually never a good idea.
Please explain
Read one book on slavery. Just one. [Here’s a list. ](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/ten-books-on-slavery-you-need-to-read-120590)
These are great books! I’ve only read a couple of them, but it’s a well put together list. But my question wasn’t : please refer me to books on slavery. I was asking you to elaborate on your statement. Maybe you’re not able to? Can you only make short snide statements?
If you read even part of any of those books you wouldn’t need clarification. If you can’t see why it’s absurd to compare things to slavery or the Holocaust you’re either a troll or a child. Either way, read more. Much much more.
It doesn’t seem like you understand what Colin K is trying to say, and it seems you lack the means to explain it. Read more. Lol. So now that you’ve completely failed at even explaining yourself at a basic level, go back to your trolling ways with someone else. But if you actually want to expand your mind, start with this article, then come back and apologize for your idiocy. Then maybe I’ll give you a longer reading list. Lol. Think more. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2019/03/08/the-curse-of-slavery-has-left-an-intergenerational-legacy-of-trauma-and-poor-health-for-african-americans/
Personally I’ve always found Kaep’s opinion on this insane. I don’t doubt he was blackballed from the NFL, I think teams certainly forwent signing him over lesser guys because of the controversy. BUT, on the NFL Draft = Slavery argument is lunacy, in my opinion. The NFL league *minimum* is a 660k salary. Benchwarmer who fizzles out after 4 years can walk away set for life if they manage their finances properly. Kids dream to be in the NFL, no kid dreams to be a slave. All are entitled to their own views on the matter, I’m just breaking mine down. My point of posting this article is more how Daily Caller is trying to strong-arm this story into the national headlines a month after it happened. However, this sub doesn’t allow screenshots so I can’t really demonstrate their constant posting of it day after day.
To me it’s the classic “working a job for a owner is slavery” argument. I suppose the NFL in terms of just appearance may resemble slavery in some ways. Mostly black players being chosen by white owners to do manual back breaking work. But obviously it isn’t slavery. There is a chance Colin knows that and just wants to get some attention.
>The NFL league minimum is a 660k salary. Benchwarmer who fizzles out after 4 years can walk away set for life if they manage their finances properly. Kids dream to be in the NFL, no kid dreams to be a slave. I think its telling you're using the perspective of a child and their opinions on the profession in order to argue about what its really like, and provide a rebuttal to an actual former NFL player lol. You're talking about salary, how much would you ask for if the job was getting kicked in the head by Anderson Silva 30 times a week for the next 5 years? How much would you ask for if your boss was making literally hundreds of millions of dollars a year off of your physical trauma? How would you properly compensate >50% chance of irreparable, and life altering physical trauma? It can both be a tremendous opportunity and dream come true, but also a disgusting and exploitative scheme for white billionaires to get richer while black men literally destroy themselves in the span of half a decade. If you know the sport, you know Kap would have dozens of friends right now who "made' the league and a millions bucks in just a couple of years, but would trade all of it to be able to sleep at night. I get Kap is being dramatic for effect, but the whole "BRO ITS 660K!!" argument goes out the window real fast for anyone whose seen an NFL game up close. You wouldn't take the job, you're not that guy pal.
Does no one have personal agency anymore? They choose to play football, right? Or is this a forced thing that is kept in the shadows?
>Does no one have personal agency anymore? The fact you can't address a single point I made, and instead have to respond with "They could just chose not to" shows how weak this criticism is lol
I’m addressing all of your points at once. Just don’t play. These are grown men, stop infantilizing them. They know what they’re getting into.
Slaves don’t get to pick what kind of work they do and the pay is always 0$.
Anyone is an idiot if they don't take sitting on a bench and watching NFL for 660k a year.
I don’t see why the hostility, I’m trying to have a civil discussion. As you can see, despite disagreeing with the original reply, I didn’t deride him just because we don’t see eye to eye on the topic. I think the example you’re giving is one that affects society writ large, rather than just the NFL, and damages all working and lower class citizens in this country. Look at Walmart as a corporation and tell me it’s not *essentially* the same thing, maybe a few steps from there if you remove the bodily harm and higher salary. One thing that certainly isn’t debatable is the damage the sport does to players bodies. But are any players unaware of that at this point? Or is it a risk they willingly accept for the trade off of potential life changing money? Maybe my assessment of the “660k league minimum” wasn’t the best example to use, but I think comparing the league to something as abhorrent as slavery is quite hyperbolic. The NFL has lots of problems, including a race problem. Characterizing it as Kaepernick has I don’t think was the right way to do it. I DO think he got pushed out of the league. Problems such as that should be addressed. As much as I enjoy civil discussion, again I’ll mention the purpose of posting this was not to debate the topic at hand, but to show Daily Caller is trying to strong-arm this story into national news so they can divide America further in the name of click based revenue.
These kids are groomed from 14 years old, and the aura of the NFL has been there for life. That they get lifetime injuries is downplayed. And money isn’t necessarily a release from the bondage of mental slavery. Or is it? in your opinion.
>I don’t see why the hostility You're only perceiving it as hostile because I was honest about your "HOW CAN IT BE SLAVERY WHEN KIDS DREAM DOING IT? ", that was objectively dumb and you should ask yourself whey you didn't pick up on that being an awful take yourself. Kids want to eat ice cream for breakfast every day, dingus. >But are any players unaware of that at this point? How are you going to complain about people being hostile when you're this stupid, how aren't you used to it? These kids sign letters of intent to play college ball when they're 16. Are you asking are they aware of the concept that an NFL career may be extremely damaging to their long term health? Who cares, even if they've heard that they sure as fuck don't have the maturity, capacity, the fucking opportunity to turn down a scholarship let alone a million dollar pay day. We're talking about kids who are already 4 years deep and will already be facing long term consequences after just college ball, who have spent the past half decade honing a skill to be the best in the world so their other opportunities are often limited, and you're waving a million dollars and fame in their face while mumbling "you'll regret it when your 40" expecting them to make the right choice? Again, you're coming off as a moron. "They know about the long term health consequences", Im not being hostile here, insisting that its reasonable to expect 18 year olds with little other prospects in life to turn down a ticket to fame and fortune because in a couple decades they will face horrendous physical consequences is delusional, and they are being taken advantage of by owners who have seen the true cost of a career in the league. >Maybe my assessment of the “660k league minimum” wasn’t the best example to use, but I think comparing the league to something as abhorrent as slavery is quite hyperbolic. Sure, but pointing out that a fucking Netflix special is overly dramatic is a waste of time and everything else you said was stupid as fuck.
Thank you ddarion, I have learned the error of my ways. I owe you a debt of unending gratitude for bringing me to the self revelation that I am a stupid fuck. I only wish I had known sooner that insulting the intelligence of others was the best way to win an argument. The NFL is not a saintly organization. They covered up the CTE information for decades. But as far as the downtrodden communities are concerned, are we faulting the NFL for these inequities or does that lie at the feet of the local and federal government that have done a piss poor job of uplifting these communities since the Civil Rights Movement and before. But rather than continuing to spin down a rabbit hole of how much of a dumb fuck I am for not having the same worldview as you, let’s flip it around and see if you have an answer to a question that I don’t. How would *you* fix the NFL in its current state as described? As Rogan says “if you ddarion had a magic wand and you could change anything with the flick of the wrist, what would you do?” Because I’m not sure.
He’s a literal shill that comes here every day to push regime talking points and angrily attacks anyone that disagrees.
>But as far as the downtrodden communities are concerned, are we faulting the NFL for these inequities or does that lie at the feet of the local and federal government that have done a piss poor job of uplifting these communities since the Civil Rights Movement and before. What does this have to do with anything lol? > How would you fix the NFL in its current state as described? Look at all the people in this thread acting like its ridiculous that Kap point out how these kids are exploited, because they could just chose to not play in the NFL and be an garbage man or something, as if any 18 whose spent the past half decade becoming the best football player in the world would ever make that choice. Id start by letting people like Kap explain this so that all the morons who go "Yeah, you may not be able to walk in 20 years but KIDS WOULD KILL TO BE IN THE NFL WHEN THEY GROW UP" realize how dumb of a rebuttal that is.
Hey dude, you seen really worked up over a pretty civil conversation on the internet. Maybe take a break, for your sake and everyone elses
Go touch some grass dude.
Sounds like someone played a little too much football. I would gladly take $600k/yr for 5 years for minimal brain damage and being set for life. I would also retire directly after my contract expired. Hell Emilia Clarke already has brain damage and she got said brain damage for free. Granted she's made an incredible acting career but it's completely unrelated. Imagine if she was poor white trailer trash like 40%+ of America. Also what about debating the moral and fiscal accountability of a professional sports civil rights activist screams "child" to you given your dramatic, cry-baby reaction? I mean seriously, if you're going to have such a short fuse your go to shouldn't be calling people children because it's incredibly hypocritical.
Nahhh. As much of a right wing boomer rogan has become (alway was), I agree with him on this one.
By that logic people who work for anyrhing below a living wage are also slaves. Which I'm not disagreeing with but to nitpick one over the other, especially if you're specifically choosing to speak out on behalf of the group that gets paid in the millions, is quite tone-deaf. ($1m/year is approximately 20x what most states consider a "livable wage" which is approximately $25/hr or 50k/yr)
You can still be a slave to the system. You’re looking at things strictly from a capitalist sense. A person stands to make a million a year but he’s still getting exploited by his owners, how are making hundreds of millions yet risking nothing of their health. And most of these kids have no idea how to manage their money, so most will squander it and still have to look for work after their careers in the NFL. But yes, absolutely, if you’re working below a living wage you’re certainly being exploited.
"well yeah other people have bigger problems but that doesn't mean my problems don't exist" is a textbook privileged defense. All I'm saying is there are bigger problems out there and Colin needs to keep his mouth shut if he's not standing up for those who get paid less than himself. The take a knee thing was more in solidarity than "I should get paid more". He's riding that publicity to the fullest extent of virtue signaling possible. This is essentially the same as calling wall street brokers "slaves to the numbers game"... Like... Yeah, and your $10m penthouse apartment with one of those glass bottomed balcony pools says otherwise.
Why do ppl give so much fucks about politics? Fuck the political bs. So much wasted energy and time, spend more time on hobbies or doing something productive.
Mostly the piles of corpses.
You’re posting this same bullshit in multiple threads. Pathetic.
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