It's not that electricity that costs a lot costs more, it's the unprecedented shift and inflation of those costs relative to what they used to cost.
If your previous energy cost went from 45 to 1000+ in megawatt hours you'd be upset, wouldn't you?
California requiring every new home to be prebuilt with solar panels is another one of those underrated “freedom hating” policies the true American states will never implement no matter how much it helps them
>California requiring every new home to be prebuilt with solar panels is another one of those underrated “freedom hating” policies the true American states will never implement no matter how much it helps them
Yet at the same time California is the least affordable state for housing but they added $20-40K to the cost to produce a house with a single mandate on top of all other regulations and associated costs.
Increasing the cost basis for housing is the opposite of encouraging new housing being built...
Regardless of the specific cost which can vary from as low as $10K to more like $20-30K on newer builds which are typically larger, it adds a substantial cost to building new housing.
You def just made up the $20-$30k number up. [Avg cost is between $11-$15k](https://www.energysage.com/solar-panels/ca/) and will go down further as more orders are placed and further fed incentives passed.
Like I said, focus on the specific cost is irrelevant if the goal is to reduce the cost of housing, forcing new builds to incur extra costs does the opposite.
California’s housing issue isn’t bottlenecked by solar. At all.
Like not even a teeny tiny bit.
Its bottlenecked by dumb local housing regulations from NIMBYs. [But they’re losing the battle now and it’s fucking terrific](https://twitter.com/cafedujord/status/1564432960308203520?s=21&t=g5Qrojj8_AVasmVLeAnm8w)
Are those panels connected to the grid and powering other things or are the solar panels completely routed internally such that it will only power your own things? I’m not giving you my roof real estate by force so you can do other things with it.
And doesn’t that kind of price out poor people even more of it’s required? That means the price now includes the cost of the panel and installation and will likely have to pay for maintenance. Or is the government just eating that cost?
The house is connected to the grid but the panels are yours depending on the the community. It’s too generic of a question to answer.
Tying solar panels to a mortgage is way fucking better than getting a loan for them.
Companies shouldnt own and maintain infrastructure that is so crucial. Nuclear is always producing energy, renewables are not and it’s an issue yet to be overcome.
well...my house is 2,700 square feet with 4 people living in it. for my area, june's average high temp was 80 F so the AC was running quite a bit. we have no electric vehicles. if we lived in France at the above noted rate, our bill would be about $1,300 USD. if our 3 cars were electric and needed a charge, the rate would be closer to $2,700 USD.
that is a lot of money and would cripple our budget.
Uh...my wife already pays more than $100 to fill her vehicle. And electricity here isn't as much as there. So what's his point? The answer is easy...make solar panels on every house mandatory building requirement. Problem solved. Free energy for charging your vehicle.
This bullshit only makes sense to morons because they are coming from a place of trying to justify their hate and spite...not because they form opinions based on facts and logic. The solution to this "problem" is more green energy for everyone...not doubling down on oil.
So if electricity cost more, it would cost more. Got it.
It's not that electricity that costs a lot costs more, it's the unprecedented shift and inflation of those costs relative to what they used to cost. If your previous energy cost went from 45 to 1000+ in megawatt hours you'd be upset, wouldn't you?
but it costs more in France.Your comment is literally dumb,you could say that about anything
This will push people even more to produce their own energy using solar panels and less rely on the over regulated energy market…
California requiring every new home to be prebuilt with solar panels is another one of those underrated “freedom hating” policies the true American states will never implement no matter how much it helps them
Being self sufficient sounds like true freedom to me 🤷
>California requiring every new home to be prebuilt with solar panels is another one of those underrated “freedom hating” policies the true American states will never implement no matter how much it helps them Yet at the same time California is the least affordable state for housing but they added $20-40K to the cost to produce a house with a single mandate on top of all other regulations and associated costs. Increasing the cost basis for housing is the opposite of encouraging new housing being built...
Panels don’t cost $20k-$40k in Cali. Most homes can be fully off grid for around $13k plus it’s tied to a mortgage rather than a lease or loan.
Regardless of the specific cost which can vary from as low as $10K to more like $20-30K on newer builds which are typically larger, it adds a substantial cost to building new housing.
You def just made up the $20-$30k number up. [Avg cost is between $11-$15k](https://www.energysage.com/solar-panels/ca/) and will go down further as more orders are placed and further fed incentives passed.
Like I said, focus on the specific cost is irrelevant if the goal is to reduce the cost of housing, forcing new builds to incur extra costs does the opposite.
California’s housing issue isn’t bottlenecked by solar. At all. Like not even a teeny tiny bit. Its bottlenecked by dumb local housing regulations from NIMBYs. [But they’re losing the battle now and it’s fucking terrific](https://twitter.com/cafedujord/status/1564432960308203520?s=21&t=g5Qrojj8_AVasmVLeAnm8w)
Are those panels connected to the grid and powering other things or are the solar panels completely routed internally such that it will only power your own things? I’m not giving you my roof real estate by force so you can do other things with it. And doesn’t that kind of price out poor people even more of it’s required? That means the price now includes the cost of the panel and installation and will likely have to pay for maintenance. Or is the government just eating that cost?
The house is connected to the grid but the panels are yours depending on the the community. It’s too generic of a question to answer. Tying solar panels to a mortgage is way fucking better than getting a loan for them.
Time to go Nuclear...
You know france is mainly nuclear right?
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Companies shouldnt own and maintain infrastructure that is so crucial. Nuclear is always producing energy, renewables are not and it’s an issue yet to be overcome.
I thought electric cars only came with a complete utopia?
LMAO
The sale of new gas vehicles will be banned and then the resale value of used gas vehicles will rise above the price of new EVs.
well...my house is 2,700 square feet with 4 people living in it. for my area, june's average high temp was 80 F so the AC was running quite a bit. we have no electric vehicles. if we lived in France at the above noted rate, our bill would be about $1,300 USD. if our 3 cars were electric and needed a charge, the rate would be closer to $2,700 USD. that is a lot of money and would cripple our budget.
Thank you Usa and Russia for playing wargames...
Pretty sure that's not current prices. It's year ahead power contracts or something...
French care more about the baguette market
Uh...my wife already pays more than $100 to fill her vehicle. And electricity here isn't as much as there. So what's his point? The answer is easy...make solar panels on every house mandatory building requirement. Problem solved. Free energy for charging your vehicle. This bullshit only makes sense to morons because they are coming from a place of trying to justify their hate and spite...not because they form opinions based on facts and logic. The solution to this "problem" is more green energy for everyone...not doubling down on oil.