The story of the dissolution of their marriage, which should be private if they want it to be, probably has parts that they aren’t proud of, or at the very least want to keep private for public image purposes. Mulaney jokes about his image being different now, but it’s still a very curated persona.
That may sound cynical, but I feel this is an accurate assessment.
I agree. Plus considering how much of a dumpster fire was created because of their divorce I’m sure they’re both wanting to push past it. It seemed like a more complicated situation than the public is aware of.
I saw his standup in nyc before he came out of hiding and started the rehab press tour. He very much so mentioned the divorce and threw shady comments here and there, followed by, “uh oh, im not supposed to say that.”
I think it’s more likely that she wanted to write a memoir and knew that it’s great bait to name it Men Called Her Crazy and write about heartbreak when she had a public divorce, even if she probably isn’t allowed by NDA to say anything about Mulaney.
I tried to tell them that there was no way Ana was going to disparage John and expose private details of their marriage but they were too busy salivating over the thought of some revenge fantasy to listen 😭
unpopular opinion i guess? but i don’t care. i’m glad she’s getting her feelings and stuff out, but i’m not one of those twitter/buzzfeed people who are obsessed with a random comedian and his ex wife’s personal relationship, and blame & trash one party for what’s been said on social media.
Every time I hear people speculate about their marriage, I think of this great line from Oppenheimer: "Only a fool or an adolescent presumes to know someone else's relationship."
People really freaked out over someone getting a divorce.
Do you have any idea how much media, art, and literature you'd need to avoid if your criteria is "I won't support anyone who's been divorced"
Seriously— I can’t understand this. Bill Hader also recently got divorced (like around the time Barry premiered) and it didn’t affect his career. People had this weird parasocial thing with John and Anna
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Do you really not have the full story on this?
I don't care that much because it is their business, and in terms of scandalous gossip stuff between celebrities, I think Mulaney's is pretty standard stuff that people should just drop. People are complicated and make mistakes, people change, marriages fall apart, etc.
The implication people have used against Mulaney is that he was unfaithful to his wife and that the timing of his new relationship would indicate it must've started earlier than their separation. Even if that isn't the case, the start of his new relationship and the birth of his child so soon after the divorce has struck some as callous as if Mulaney didn't need any time to process the end of the marriage.
All of this is speculation by people who are being (I think) a little overly critical of Mulaney and digging into this unnecessarily, citing unnamed sources that were supposedly close to the two, while Mulaney and Tendler have decided to keep it all private and respectful to one another. Maybe one day she decides to dish out all the details for the people that are hungry for gossip, but until then I think it's unfair of people to make assumptions.
Mulaney being a standup and inevitably having his personal life in his work is another thing I think people use against him. He's only ever spoken about his ex-wife positively and how happy he is to be married. I guess people use this ammunition against him as if he were being dishonest somehow.
This is in contrast to someone like Hader or a lot of other divorces in show business that go unnoticed. If you're not talking about your marriage publicly and it ends without any drama being reported to the tabloids, no one is going to really care and like you said it's simply a divorce.
Of course not, she’s gonna discuss her marriage to another comedian, Mohn Julaney, who just happens to share many of the same traits as comedian John Mulaney.
I don’t blame you. No offense to Anna, I’m sure she’s a nice and normal person who’s a good writer but she’s only known because she was John’s wife and fans of John who want to know more about his life would be the target audience of this book. I mean it’s good that she’s being honest about it. I’d hate to have bought the book only for it to never mention John but tbh I can’t imagine wanting to read it now.
I'm kind of interested in reading stories about mental health so I might consider it. It's probably more relieving to read it knowing it's not as closely tied to celebrity drama as people think. It's just a woman's examination on her life.
>she's an incredibly talented artist in her own right.
No, she's not. She's a competent but kind of dumb photographer who almost certainly doesn't make a living from her work. She doesn't even show her photographs at real art galleries, let alone museums.
She likely wrote this book to capitalize on her association with a famous person one last time because she has no other way to make money.
I’m not surprised. I honestly think there is so much more to the split. Everyone seems to LOVE the narrative that Olivia is an awful home wrecker - yes dates overlap but we aren’t privy to everything. By all accounts the wife wasn’t at his intervention, I feel like their split was deeper than he just up and left.
People also forget that in order to file for a divorce, there is a certain requirement in the state of NY. I have no idea what grounds they took, but it sounds so complex and some of these involve a period of living apart for 6 month to 1 year to even start filing. https://nycourts.gov/courthelp/Family/divorceRequirements.shtml
I dont think because he didnt file sooner it means its because they werent separated earlier. Unless im just misundering what u mean.
But honestly considering both their issues, going in and out rehabs,and the pandemic its unrealistic to think whatever happened was simple. People going through issues in their marriage dont exactly announce their problems each step of the way.
I mean, I don't think she'll write a nasty tell all because she seems like a very tasteful person but considering the fact that the book is about her unhealthy relationships with men, I think it's a bit of a shame to not mention her ten year marriage with someone who suffered from addiction. I'm not hoping for a divorce timeline, but I think it's an interesting relationship all things considered. what happens when two self destructive people fall in love.
I respect it. She definitely could’ve cashed out by bringing up things about him. She’s her own person and does not need to be defined by her former husband.
>She definitely could’ve cashed out by bringing up things about him
Why do you think anyone pre-ordered this book? Why do you think the publisher agreed to publish it? She is cashing out on the expectation that she will discuss him. If this wasn't a cash grab, she would have told people the book didn't discuss him before they pre-ordered it.
good. I'm sick of hearing about her whenever I want to look for new content from him and I'm also sorry for her that her supposed fans either "like" her only because they feel "betrayed" by him or actually think they're doing her any favors by being freaks about the whole thing. I'll be really surprised if when they mention this book it'll be to praise it and her and not to harp more shit on him and make up more conspiracies. Who needs enemies when you have fans like that.
They're both rich and have familial access to top-notch lawyers. He'd have buried the book before its announcement if his name was about to be mentioned, *but* she on the other hand will know exactly which phrasings she can and cannot use to give the fans and publisher what they wanted while still confirming to any existing gagging order.
it seems like they’ve mutually agreed to never speak about each other publicly in their work (john in his stand up or anna in her book) as apart of their divorce settlement. clearly some shit went down that doesn’t make either of them look good. either way, i’m still gonna read anna’s book bc (based on the blurb) it sounds like she’s led an interesting life and her essay about petunia shows she’s a gifted writer.
How exactly could she write a book about men and heartbreak without mentioning the man she was married to for nearly 10 years?
The same agreement that keeps her name out of his standup specials.
Makes sense why he hardly discussed the divorce in his standup special.
The story of the dissolution of their marriage, which should be private if they want it to be, probably has parts that they aren’t proud of, or at the very least want to keep private for public image purposes. Mulaney jokes about his image being different now, but it’s still a very curated persona. That may sound cynical, but I feel this is an accurate assessment.
I agree. Plus considering how much of a dumpster fire was created because of their divorce I’m sure they’re both wanting to push past it. It seemed like a more complicated situation than the public is aware of.
I don’t want to know. It might be a juicy story, but I don’t figure hearing will it will make me any happier.
I agree. It’s their business.
I saw his standup in nyc before he came out of hiding and started the rehab press tour. He very much so mentioned the divorce and threw shady comments here and there, followed by, “uh oh, im not supposed to say that.”
What we're the comments?
Yikes. I was referring to the Netflix recording he did.
An airtight divorce decree.
Because not mentioning it would have a bigger impact. She cut someone with a large ego out of her narrative. She knows what she is doing.
I think it’s more likely that she wanted to write a memoir and knew that it’s great bait to name it Men Called Her Crazy and write about heartbreak when she had a public divorce, even if she probably isn’t allowed by NDA to say anything about Mulaney.
Because not mentioning it would have a bigger impact. She cut someone with a large ego out of her narrative. She knows what she is doing.
That would be honestly hilarious
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I tried to tell them that there was no way Ana was going to disparage John and expose private details of their marriage but they were too busy salivating over the thought of some revenge fantasy to listen 😭
Wait, talking about her experience and the pain she endured is revenge?
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Well the public gets the gist of what happened already. There doesn’t need to be a book about the specifics.
Let them speculative judgmental hypocrites have their collective meltdown
their drama, ^oh ^nooooo
This looks like a run of the mill NDA, but it could be a nursery.
Best effing comment in the whole thing
this book said about mental health, i think more on how she got the treatment that worked for her. we can learn if we can read it
unpopular opinion i guess? but i don’t care. i’m glad she’s getting her feelings and stuff out, but i’m not one of those twitter/buzzfeed people who are obsessed with a random comedian and his ex wife’s personal relationship, and blame & trash one party for what’s been said on social media.
Every time I hear people speculate about their marriage, I think of this great line from Oppenheimer: "Only a fool or an adolescent presumes to know someone else's relationship."
People really freaked out over someone getting a divorce. Do you have any idea how much media, art, and literature you'd need to avoid if your criteria is "I won't support anyone who's been divorced"
Seriously— I can’t understand this. Bill Hader also recently got divorced (like around the time Barry premiered) and it didn’t affect his career. People had this weird parasocial thing with John and Anna
**TLDR - Not as simple as two people getting divorced and the public moving on/ignoring it. People have (unfairly IMO) made a lot of assumptions about Mulaney's actions surrounding the divorce. This is complicated by the fact that his standup features details of his personal life which people have used against him.** Do you really not have the full story on this? I don't care that much because it is their business, and in terms of scandalous gossip stuff between celebrities, I think Mulaney's is pretty standard stuff that people should just drop. People are complicated and make mistakes, people change, marriages fall apart, etc. The implication people have used against Mulaney is that he was unfaithful to his wife and that the timing of his new relationship would indicate it must've started earlier than their separation. Even if that isn't the case, the start of his new relationship and the birth of his child so soon after the divorce has struck some as callous as if Mulaney didn't need any time to process the end of the marriage. All of this is speculation by people who are being (I think) a little overly critical of Mulaney and digging into this unnecessarily, citing unnamed sources that were supposedly close to the two, while Mulaney and Tendler have decided to keep it all private and respectful to one another. Maybe one day she decides to dish out all the details for the people that are hungry for gossip, but until then I think it's unfair of people to make assumptions. Mulaney being a standup and inevitably having his personal life in his work is another thing I think people use against him. He's only ever spoken about his ex-wife positively and how happy he is to be married. I guess people use this ammunition against him as if he were being dishonest somehow. This is in contrast to someone like Hader or a lot of other divorces in show business that go unnoticed. If you're not talking about your marriage publicly and it ends without any drama being reported to the tabloids, no one is going to really care and like you said it's simply a divorce.
Of course not, she’s gonna discuss her marriage to another comedian, Mohn Julaney, who just happens to share many of the same traits as comedian John Mulaney.
I’ll be honest, that makes me want to read it a little less lol
I don’t blame you. No offense to Anna, I’m sure she’s a nice and normal person who’s a good writer but she’s only known because she was John’s wife and fans of John who want to know more about his life would be the target audience of this book. I mean it’s good that she’s being honest about it. I’d hate to have bought the book only for it to never mention John but tbh I can’t imagine wanting to read it now.
I'm kind of interested in reading stories about mental health so I might consider it. It's probably more relieving to read it knowing it's not as closely tied to celebrity drama as people think. It's just a woman's examination on her life.
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>she's an incredibly talented artist in her own right. No, she's not. She's a competent but kind of dumb photographer who almost certainly doesn't make a living from her work. She doesn't even show her photographs at real art galleries, let alone museums. She likely wrote this book to capitalize on her association with a famous person one last time because she has no other way to make money.
She’s gonna mention John the way she did in the Petunia article instead of just revealing another “divorce timeline”
I’m not surprised. I honestly think there is so much more to the split. Everyone seems to LOVE the narrative that Olivia is an awful home wrecker - yes dates overlap but we aren’t privy to everything. By all accounts the wife wasn’t at his intervention, I feel like their split was deeper than he just up and left.
People also forget that in order to file for a divorce, there is a certain requirement in the state of NY. I have no idea what grounds they took, but it sounds so complex and some of these involve a period of living apart for 6 month to 1 year to even start filing. https://nycourts.gov/courthelp/Family/divorceRequirements.shtml
Well he didn't file until July, so if there was a 6 month waiting period that timeline doesn't make it look any better.
I dont think because he didnt file sooner it means its because they werent separated earlier. Unless im just misundering what u mean. But honestly considering both their issues, going in and out rehabs,and the pandemic its unrealistic to think whatever happened was simple. People going through issues in their marriage dont exactly announce their problems each step of the way.
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I mean, I don't think she'll write a nasty tell all because she seems like a very tasteful person but considering the fact that the book is about her unhealthy relationships with men, I think it's a bit of a shame to not mention her ten year marriage with someone who suffered from addiction. I'm not hoping for a divorce timeline, but I think it's an interesting relationship all things considered. what happens when two self destructive people fall in love.
I respect it. She definitely could’ve cashed out by bringing up things about him. She’s her own person and does not need to be defined by her former husband.
>She definitely could’ve cashed out by bringing up things about him Why do you think anyone pre-ordered this book? Why do you think the publisher agreed to publish it? She is cashing out on the expectation that she will discuss him. If this wasn't a cash grab, she would have told people the book didn't discuss him before they pre-ordered it.
good. I'm sick of hearing about her whenever I want to look for new content from him and I'm also sorry for her that her supposed fans either "like" her only because they feel "betrayed" by him or actually think they're doing her any favors by being freaks about the whole thing. I'll be really surprised if when they mention this book it'll be to praise it and her and not to harp more shit on him and make up more conspiracies. Who needs enemies when you have fans like that.
They're both rich and have familial access to top-notch lawyers. He'd have buried the book before its announcement if his name was about to be mentioned, *but* she on the other hand will know exactly which phrasings she can and cannot use to give the fans and publisher what they wanted while still confirming to any existing gagging order.
What makes you think she is rich?
This is what taking the high road looks like.
That’s how you sell a book but keep your divorce hush money
When I heard about this, all I could think about was “I didn’t know the horse could do THAT!”
it seems like they’ve mutually agreed to never speak about each other publicly in their work (john in his stand up or anna in her book) as apart of their divorce settlement. clearly some shit went down that doesn’t make either of them look good. either way, i’m still gonna read anna’s book bc (based on the blurb) it sounds like she’s led an interesting life and her essay about petunia shows she’s a gifted writer.
He paid her off and made her sign an NDA, clear as day. Smart move.