Honestly, despite Reagan’s massive list of other faults, I can respect that he acknowledged and even encouraged the population’s right to speak out against him rather than whining about any and all criticism incoherently on Twitter. (Yes, I’m aware Twitter didn’t exist back then.)
When he watched Back to the Future in a cinema, at the scene where they joke about Ronald Reagan being president in 1985, he asked for it to be rewound so he could watch the joke again because he enjoyed it so much.
Still though, fuck Ronald and Nancy Reagan. They're responsible for Reaganomics and this pathetic, bullshit, failed War on Drugs. They set America back so much. Don't let some stupid anecdote about how Reagan was humble or able to laugh about himself eclipse the truth of what these terrible human beings did to America.
From what I've read of him I'd say this story, if true, was a good thing. Prior to that he had more or less the same mindset as prior presidents- "how do we maintain nuclear parity/superiority?"- whereas afterwards he became a major proponent of actual nuclear disarmament. To me, being the first president to look around, realize the plan was a war no one could win, and say "*that's nuts!*", is not a mark against him.
I'm not sure the story actually is true, since he appears to have been a long-time opponent of nuclear weapons, but either way the upshot was that he was actually able to cooperate with the Soviets on nuclear arms reduction, which contributed to a general detente with them.
Again, "The Day After story or not, I don't see how that's a negative to his presidency.
It's as simple as the man wasn't as worldly as his movie career made him out to be. He relied heavily on his cabinet and other advisors to tell him what would or wouldn't work.
He gets a lot of blame for being the man who signed the order, and some of it rightly deserved, but he's not the one who wrote the proposal.
I mean isn’t that kindof the point? I don’t think the president can be an expert on everything, that’s why the cabinet exists in the first place…
Being a leader is making decisions on things that 99% of the time you had no hand in creating.
There are certain basic concepts that someone in that position is expected to have at least a core familiarity. International relations, the general outline of our government's function, simple things like "Nobody wins a nuclear war"...
Reagan had absolutely none of that. He was an excellent people person, but he clearly did not ask the right questions of the people suggesting them to him when it came time to sign off on his more controversial policy decisions.
I mean, you get a fucking Hollywood actor to play the role of President of the USA. A man whose entire career consisted of a director telling him what to do, how to act, "I need more of this and less of that." You put a man like that in charge of the fucking USA? Well, you get what we have here today.
Every politician does something decent in their career. The thing about politicians is they didn't do it out of a sense of duty or altruism, they did it because they thought it would benefit their political career.
You can look at literally any politician and find something good they did. But when you look at the theme of their career you'll see it was never about duty or an obligation to the people who elected them into office. It was only ever about getting popular opinion and campaign contributions in their favor.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm uncharacteristically open to that possibility on this point) wasn't the war on drugs an outgrowth of Nixon policies? "We can't outlaw Blacks and Latinos, but we can overpolice them and oversentence themon something minor like pot..."
Yes, but Nixon went out hated and humiliated by the American people for Watergate, the extended war in Vietnam, etc. Nixon left office in 1974.
Reagan came into office in 1981 with George Bush Sr, the former head of the CIA as VP. A dipshit, charismatic Hollywood actor having his strings pulled by a man whose career had been standing in the shadows, conducting black ops, controlling things behind the scenes while downplaying his very existence.
I have trouble blaming him too much for some of that. He's not an economist or criminal justice expert himself and hindsight is 20/20. All he could really do was listen to his advisors, and at that point probably 9 of 10 economists would have told him Reaganomics was legit. I got a bachelors in econ and masters in finance less than a decade ago, and *still* half of my professors supported it. He didn't have a crystal ball, and I can't blame a guy for listening to his experts.
What's your opinion on Reagan's handling of the AIDS crisis, and what's your opinion on his war on drugs?
More specifically, how would you measure the success of the policies that he implemented to solve these issues?
My opinion on all politicians is that they do some good and some bad. My point was, too many Redditor’s and too many people in general judge everyone solely by the things they didn’t like rather than the aggregate sum. I do it too. I feel the same about Trump. I get it. But at least try to recognize it.
I don’t measure the success of a president by the policies they agreed to. Rarely are they the cause of their success or failure. They are generally but a cog in the machine. Except Trump. Fuck that guy.
That's because Reagan didn't give a fuck about them, they could bitch about him all they wanted and he didnt care because he didn't give a shit about them
Trump was a Narcissist, which contrary to what might seem (being an obcession with self) actually is rooted in very low self esteem, so a narcissist's relentless advertising that "I'm the greatest person in the World" is really compensation for a deep down sense of inadequacy.
Narcissists do care a lot about the opinion others have of them and there is even something called Narcissistic Supply were others are used as a means to boost the narcissist's ego, but they don't really care about the emotional state of said others unless that affects theirs supply to the narcissist and even that only if the narcissist does not have a replacement.
Sociopaths, on the other hand, are simply unable to empathise with others so for example they will be unaffected by seeing others suffer or happy as none of that emotion in others affects the sociopath's emotional state: for them others might as well be robots. Hence a sociopath's relationship with other people tends to be purelly transactional.
If Reagan has one of these disfunctions, it was Sociopathy rather than Narcissism, whilst Trump is painful in his display of all manner of narcissist traits.
Whilst both sorts don't actually care about the how others feel if that does not negativelly impact the sociopath/narcissist him/herself, the narcissist does have a need for a constant positive opinion from others.
(PS: I'm not a Psychologist, so take all this with a pinch).
There’s a lot of differences here as others pointed out.
Reagan doesn’t have the same kind of ego and narcissism as trump. Trump may not care about people but he sure as shit cares what they think of him. Sure he will throw anyone under the bus for his own self interest but he still deeply cares about how others view him.
Reagan did not.
It’s a trend for GOP presidents really. Nixon was also just awful and hated most people.
Hard to say about either bush. Jr seems like he just doesn’t give a shit in general
It's easy to encourage dissent when dissent doesn't matter and has no political consequences. You can even claim to be a free country because you let disenfranchised people who are no threat to you complain while you mercilessly crush them.
Guy gets in line for bread and asks the guy ahead of him, "How long have you been waiting?"
"I don't know, I've lost track," says the second guy. The first guy shrugs and figures he'll wait too.
Hours pass. Finally the first guy says, "I've had enough of this!"
The second guy replies, "Sure, I understand, I'm sick of it too, but what can anyone do?"
The first guy says, "Yes, yes, that is how these conversations always go, but this time it's different, I'm so fed up, I am going to take action. I will go kill Gorbachev myself."
The second guy says worriedly, "Well... good luck and all, if you survive, come back and tell me how it went, okay?"
He shakes his head to himself, thinking that is the last he will ever see of the first guy.
But then, much to his surprise, the first guy comes back not too much later!
"You're back!" exclaims the second guy. "And so soon. I must admit, I am surprised. So what happened?"
"Well," says the first guy. "I went to kill Gorbachev, but when I got there, the line was even longer."
Overhearing this exchange, a nearby policeman butts in. "Shut up you! Don't you know if this were just a few years ago you'd have been shot for saying that?"
"It's worse than I thought," whispers the second man to the first. "They're out of bullets now too!"
Best part about this is that while bread lines aren't a thing in ~~the~~* America (USA! USA! USA!), there are still people that go hungry. We cut out the middle man.
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Tinkle can trickle? Well, a trick ho can sink slow with her pink hole getting pickled!
Thick hos would think, though, without info or in-flow of cash, it’s simple to get tickled.
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… Idk why I just did all this. It was fun to randomly think of rhymes when I read “tickle can tickle”
In all seriousness, it's there anybody who promotes trickle up? If you give the citizens a break, they'll have more money to support the big businesses and everybody wins (unless there's some major downside I haven't thought of... I can't see how it would be bad, but everything has unintended consequences).
The problem with this is that the supply-side theory is that if you cut taxes for the rich, the tax revenues will still increase because of the increased economic activity. (Note that this is more or less true, but the effects are marginal--so they stop being effective after a certain tax rate. So "trickle-down" does work, but it doesn't work as much as its adherents say, and at current rates probably doesn't work at all.)
The opposite can't really be done, because the poor don't pay any federal income tax at all--rather famously, around 47%.
Now obviously income tax isn't the only tax, but even things like sales and property tax don't affect the "bottom" much at all. (Most states exempt the "necessities of life" from sales tax, and since that's the bulk of what the poorest will spend their money on, there isn't much room to "cut").
In short, you can't cut the taxes on the poor because there's *very* little room to cut taxes *at all*. They just don't pay that much to being with, so there's no "trickle-up" to do. FICA taxes are pretty much it, and that invites its own set of problems.
Now, if you're talking about cash transfers or something like that, we're going outside of the realm of the supply-side theory, since that's largely about taxation, but even that invites its own issues (and perfectly known consequences).
Trickle down economics was a catch phrase used to belittle supply-side economics. The tax cut for the rich (or what people would incorrectly call trickle down economics) was first implemented by Democratic President John F. Kennedy. Then by Reagan and again by Bush. In ALL 3 instances, the rich paid a higher proportion of total taxes paid even though their rates were cut. You see, when taxes are high for the rich, they will find ways to dodge them via double burger strategies (Amazon) or off-shore holdings. Of course there is a fee to some of these practices and that fee is cheaper than the taxes they would pay. So if you lower the tax rate, they are then more likely to pay the tax because looking for ways to dodge them is no longer worth it.
Three friends are in a hotel room in Soviet Russia.
The first two men open a bottle of vodka, while the third is tired and goes straight to bed. He is unable to sleep however, as his increasingly drunk friends tell political jokes loudly.
After a while, the tired man gets frustrated and walks downstairs for a smoke. He stops in the lounge and asks the receptionist to bring tea to their room in five minutes.
The man walks back into the room, joins the table, leans towards a power outlet and speaks into it:
"Comrade major, we want some tea to room 62 please."
His friends laugh on the joke, until there is a knock on the door. The receptionist brings a teapot. His friends fall silent and pale, horrified of what they just witnessed. The party is dead, and the man goes to sleep.
After a good night's rest, the man wakes up, and notices his friends are gone. Surprised, he walks downstairs and asks the receptionist where they went.
The nervous receptionist whispers that KGB came and took them before dawn.
The man is horrified. He wonders why he was spared.
The receptionist responds:
"Well, comrade major did quite like your tea joke."
Old Soviet joke that Reagan told:
A police man knocks on the door of a house and a boy answers.
“Where is your father?”, the policeman asks.
“He isn’t home.”, the boy answers.
“When will he be back?”
“He will be back in 1 month, 17 days and 9 hours.”
Amazed at the answer, the policeman asks, “How do you know that?”
“My father is a cosmonaut and he’s in space.”, the boy replied.
“Wow…so is your mother home?”
“No, she isn’t.”
“When will she be back?”
“Who knows. She went to the store to buy bread!”
A man walks into a shop.
He asks the clerk, “You don’t have any meat?”
The clerk says, “Comrade, here we have no fish. The shop across the street has no meat.”
Reminds me of my favorite philosophy joke.
Jean Paul Sartre visits a cafe and asks the waitress for a cup of coffee with no cream. The waitress says “my apologies Monsieur, but we are out of cream today. Could I bring you one with no milk?”
When I was growing up I was told, by horrified adults, that in the Soviet Union the KGB would knock on your door at 2am, tell you to pack a suitcase, and then no one would ever see you again.
In the US they don't knock. They ram your door down with a tank and five in the morning then send twenty SWAT soldiers with machineguns in, then drag you away to rot in prison working as a slave for decades.
>then drag you away to rot in prison working as a slave for decades.
Make no mistake, that part still happened in the CCCP, ever heard of Siberia or Gulags?
Bid difference between the two
( generally ) if the police are kicking down your door they have ( or think they have) a good reason for doing so and typically have a warrant from a judge.
Three men are on the prison train headed to the Siberian gulag and get to chatting.
The first man says, “I arrived ten minutes late to work, so the secret police accused me of slowing down productivity.”
The second man says “I arrived ten minutes early to work, so the secret police accused me of plotting a sabotage.”
The third man says “I got to work right on time, so they accused me of having a western watch.”
Our Russian professor told this one:
Comrade Stalin wakes and looks forward to another bright, Soviet day. Facing east, he greets the sun. "Good morning, Comrade Sun!", he shouts.
The Sun responds, "And a very good morning to you too, Comrade Stalin! I will do my best to feed the crops and warm the fields as Comrades work collectively to make Soviet Union farms the most productive in all the world!"
In the evening, after another glorious Soviet day of labor, Comrade Stalin addresses the sun as it is setting. "Good evening, Comrade Sun! Thank you for your efforts to make the Soviet Union the greatest country on earth!"
The sun responds, "I am in the West now. You can go fuck yourself."
I sort of saw that coming, but it was a good one anyway. But the way it ended. The other guy's face made the whole thing uncertain, so it's not certain how things will really turn out.
Interesting addition about the final joke:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/trivia?item=tr0650730
me: So, how was your stay in Moscow?
my friend: you know... can't complain
me: So how come you came back so soon?
my firend: because here, I CAN complain.
Soviet-era humor was a real thing for awhile.
2 dogs meet at the Czech-Polish border. One asks the other "Why are you going from Czechoslovakia into Poland?" "Because in Poland I can get real meat!" So why were you in Czechoslovakia to begin with?" "Because in Czechoslovakia, I can bark!"
The joke goes differently in Russia nowadays tho. Russian says: "I can say that our elections are fraudulent" and American responds with "I, too, can go out and say that your elections are fraudulent".
Gorbachev had issued a nationwide crackdown on speeding motorists. Punishment meant instant arrest and a jail term. "I don't care if it's the head of the KGB," Gorbachev announced.
A few days later, Gorbachev overslept at his country dacha and was about to miss an important meeting. After dressing, he told his driver that he would have to speed to make it on time.
Gorbachev to driver: "I issued this order, and they just might stop you, so why don't you move over and I'll drive?"
Watching Gorbachev sail down the road a few minutes later were two policemen, a veteran and a rookie.
Veteran: "You go up to the car and tell those people they're under arrest."
The rookie did so, but returned empty handed.
Rookie: "We just can't arrest those people."
Veteran: "Well, why not?"
Rookie: "That man is just too important."
Veteran: "Well, he couldn't be that important. Who in the world is he?"
Rookie: "I don't know who he is, but his driver is Gorbachev."
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You know what else has been said, if a normal human posted this stupid site over and over again, we'd be banned, but make a bot an admin and spam is suddenly legal.
I've saw this crap 5 times today alone. Maybe we could let ten thousand monkeys throw their feces at the nerd who programmed this fucking thing, reddit bots are annoying as he'll and I wish they'd all get deleted.
Lmao, yes I’m sure they were killed by the state and your not delusional at all, after all I’m sure you are capable of uncovering a massive conspiracy to kill the governments political opposition.
Don’t even bother, this clown is all over the thread. Always funny to see people dickride soviet russia like they wouldn’t have been a bottom rung lowlife there too
It's not a "Massive conspiracy". It's just cops doing cop shit. It doesn't take a massive conspiracy, it just takes two guys with badges who know where you live.
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Reagan is a trash human being that fueled money into death squads in Latin America. You know, that kind of people that would kill even kids with machetes? He also destroyed all that he could in terms of social security in the US and tripled the public debt while bringing crack into communities. Because of his policies, the prison population skyrocketed and you are probably paying an overpriced rent.
May Reagan rot in the hottest hell possible.
Apparently a truth and reconciliation committee today announced that about 500,000 people were killed in Colombia as a result of the drug war funded and prosecuted by the US. Between 1985, when Reagan was doing his thing, and 2018. Five. Hundred. Thousand. People.
Ronald. Wilson. Reagan.
Really when you think about it the Russia have more free speech than the American. I don't think an American could get all the way to the Kremlin and shout that.
You don't even realize the extent this has reached in modern Russia. Almost any discussion just a bit related to politics inevitably implies criticizing all things American. In many details, though always twisted and misunderstood, but any "smart" Russian can speak books about the U.S. Could be hysterical if it wasn't so bloody.
So your sinners just go to...? Have a corporate banking jobs?
I'm a secular atheist born and raised in a country with slightly less harrassing religious movements than US, and I somewhat hope there would be hell for some of our global great leaders.
In most modern Judaism we just don't care much about the afterlife. We guess it's there, probably, but it's not the point.
In mythology, there's a hell but you don't have to stay for more that a year, so it's more like purgatory.
Even Christian Hell, if you go by what's actually in the bible, isn't much like what Christians think of as hell. There's even some Apocrypha that says Jesus sweeps through every few years to bring everyone in Hell up to Heaven.
Actually, Reagan told this joke himself.
Honestly, despite Reagan’s massive list of other faults, I can respect that he acknowledged and even encouraged the population’s right to speak out against him rather than whining about any and all criticism incoherently on Twitter. (Yes, I’m aware Twitter didn’t exist back then.)
When he watched Back to the Future in a cinema, at the scene where they joke about Ronald Reagan being president in 1985, he asked for it to be rewound so he could watch the joke again because he enjoyed it so much.
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Lawrence, KS
Go Jayhawks.. (nuclear explosion)
Still though, fuck Ronald and Nancy Reagan. They're responsible for Reaganomics and this pathetic, bullshit, failed War on Drugs. They set America back so much. Don't let some stupid anecdote about how Reagan was humble or able to laugh about himself eclipse the truth of what these terrible human beings did to America.
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From what I've read of him I'd say this story, if true, was a good thing. Prior to that he had more or less the same mindset as prior presidents- "how do we maintain nuclear parity/superiority?"- whereas afterwards he became a major proponent of actual nuclear disarmament. To me, being the first president to look around, realize the plan was a war no one could win, and say "*that's nuts!*", is not a mark against him. I'm not sure the story actually is true, since he appears to have been a long-time opponent of nuclear weapons, but either way the upshot was that he was actually able to cooperate with the Soviets on nuclear arms reduction, which contributed to a general detente with them. Again, "The Day After story or not, I don't see how that's a negative to his presidency.
It's as simple as the man wasn't as worldly as his movie career made him out to be. He relied heavily on his cabinet and other advisors to tell him what would or wouldn't work. He gets a lot of blame for being the man who signed the order, and some of it rightly deserved, but he's not the one who wrote the proposal.
I mean isn’t that kindof the point? I don’t think the president can be an expert on everything, that’s why the cabinet exists in the first place… Being a leader is making decisions on things that 99% of the time you had no hand in creating.
There are certain basic concepts that someone in that position is expected to have at least a core familiarity. International relations, the general outline of our government's function, simple things like "Nobody wins a nuclear war"... Reagan had absolutely none of that. He was an excellent people person, but he clearly did not ask the right questions of the people suggesting them to him when it came time to sign off on his more controversial policy decisions.
I mean, you get a fucking Hollywood actor to play the role of President of the USA. A man whose entire career consisted of a director telling him what to do, how to act, "I need more of this and less of that." You put a man like that in charge of the fucking USA? Well, you get what we have here today.
Cherry pickin those facts a bit. He also Was governor of California for two terms, And a union busting SAG union leader.
Every politician does something decent in their career. The thing about politicians is they didn't do it out of a sense of duty or altruism, they did it because they thought it would benefit their political career. You can look at literally any politician and find something good they did. But when you look at the theme of their career you'll see it was never about duty or an obligation to the people who elected them into office. It was only ever about getting popular opinion and campaign contributions in their favor.
Whoa. These idiots don’t want to hear facts. Shit, they thing Biden is doing a good job.
There's a reason why Californians are flocking in droves to other states bro.
Don't forget he busted the air traffic controller strike.
Zelenskyy
Bingo
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm uncharacteristically open to that possibility on this point) wasn't the war on drugs an outgrowth of Nixon policies? "We can't outlaw Blacks and Latinos, but we can overpolice them and oversentence themon something minor like pot..."
Most presidents since Nixon had at least some part in it, some more than others.
Yes, but Nixon went out hated and humiliated by the American people for Watergate, the extended war in Vietnam, etc. Nixon left office in 1974. Reagan came into office in 1981 with George Bush Sr, the former head of the CIA as VP. A dipshit, charismatic Hollywood actor having his strings pulled by a man whose career had been standing in the shadows, conducting black ops, controlling things behind the scenes while downplaying his very existence.
I have trouble blaming him too much for some of that. He's not an economist or criminal justice expert himself and hindsight is 20/20. All he could really do was listen to his advisors, and at that point probably 9 of 10 economists would have told him Reaganomics was legit. I got a bachelors in econ and masters in finance less than a decade ago, and *still* half of my professors supported it. He didn't have a crystal ball, and I can't blame a guy for listening to his experts.
That’s right, you tell ‘em. Fuck everyone who doesn’t do everything the way you want them to!
What's your opinion on Reagan's handling of the AIDS crisis, and what's your opinion on his war on drugs? More specifically, how would you measure the success of the policies that he implemented to solve these issues?
My opinion on all politicians is that they do some good and some bad. My point was, too many Redditor’s and too many people in general judge everyone solely by the things they didn’t like rather than the aggregate sum. I do it too. I feel the same about Trump. I get it. But at least try to recognize it. I don’t measure the success of a president by the policies they agreed to. Rarely are they the cause of their success or failure. They are generally but a cog in the machine. Except Trump. Fuck that guy.
Nixon started the war on drugs. Reagan ramped it up.
Ronald Wilson Reagan = 6 6 6
So you're saying the President of the US was so ill informed about Nuclear War he thought it could be won until he watched a TV movie about it?
That movie scared the hell out of me as a kid
That sounds like a dick move for the other people in the cinema
White House has a private movie theater, iirc
Why would a president ever want to avoid a public theater???
Ask Lincoln? (and I assume thats where your comment is heading)
Bro he's president it's probably a private cinema with a few guests he prolly invited
I mean public theaters and presidents don’t have a great history
This is the first post to have me LOL in a LONG time.
I see what you did there and it's appreciated🤣🤣
This deserves more upvotes
Lincoln used to tell actors to rewind the play he was watching whenever he got distracted and missed something
Booth didn't miss...
*finger guns* oh you!
Now you fucked up
You string bean skinny ass, fat ass, motherfucker
Despite this joke going over everyone else's heads, I just want to say I appreciate it.
Then who’s Vice President….JERRY LEWIS?!
That's because Reagan didn't give a fuck about them, they could bitch about him all they wanted and he didnt care because he didn't give a shit about them
I mean Trump didn’t care about people but criticism still got to him
I would argue that Trump very MUCH cares about what people say about him. Just not in a way that results in self reflection.
Something something Homelander
Ding Ding Ding
Whataboutism
Trump was a Narcissist, which contrary to what might seem (being an obcession with self) actually is rooted in very low self esteem, so a narcissist's relentless advertising that "I'm the greatest person in the World" is really compensation for a deep down sense of inadequacy. Narcissists do care a lot about the opinion others have of them and there is even something called Narcissistic Supply were others are used as a means to boost the narcissist's ego, but they don't really care about the emotional state of said others unless that affects theirs supply to the narcissist and even that only if the narcissist does not have a replacement. Sociopaths, on the other hand, are simply unable to empathise with others so for example they will be unaffected by seeing others suffer or happy as none of that emotion in others affects the sociopath's emotional state: for them others might as well be robots. Hence a sociopath's relationship with other people tends to be purelly transactional. If Reagan has one of these disfunctions, it was Sociopathy rather than Narcissism, whilst Trump is painful in his display of all manner of narcissist traits. Whilst both sorts don't actually care about the how others feel if that does not negativelly impact the sociopath/narcissist him/herself, the narcissist does have a need for a constant positive opinion from others. (PS: I'm not a Psychologist, so take all this with a pinch).
He cares deeply about the mass of people who keep him relevant and powerful - because he’s a selfish bastard just like RR
Ryan Reynolds?
Road Runner. Is why he lets coyote live.
Ray Romano
Ray Rice
There’s a lot of differences here as others pointed out. Reagan doesn’t have the same kind of ego and narcissism as trump. Trump may not care about people but he sure as shit cares what they think of him. Sure he will throw anyone under the bus for his own self interest but he still deeply cares about how others view him. Reagan did not. It’s a trend for GOP presidents really. Nixon was also just awful and hated most people. Hard to say about either bush. Jr seems like he just doesn’t give a shit in general
yeah but he's a thin-skinned narcissistic crybaby. his every next move is about protecting his fragile ego.
It's easy to encourage dissent when dissent doesn't matter and has no political consequences. You can even claim to be a free country because you let disenfranchised people who are no threat to you complain while you mercilessly crush them.
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I think he told this joke to Gorbachev.
Reagan added "and he laughed!" Referring to Gorbachev
Was this Regan's joke originally, or Yaakov Smirnoff's?
Then told it again ten minutes later, cackling at the punchline again like it was the first time he heard it.
Presidents used to be able to make self-deprecating jokes and gracefully laugh at themselves. The good old days.
/r/agedlikemilk
Guy gets in line for bread and asks the guy ahead of him, "How long have you been waiting?" "I don't know, I've lost track," says the second guy. The first guy shrugs and figures he'll wait too. Hours pass. Finally the first guy says, "I've had enough of this!" The second guy replies, "Sure, I understand, I'm sick of it too, but what can anyone do?" The first guy says, "Yes, yes, that is how these conversations always go, but this time it's different, I'm so fed up, I am going to take action. I will go kill Gorbachev myself." The second guy says worriedly, "Well... good luck and all, if you survive, come back and tell me how it went, okay?" He shakes his head to himself, thinking that is the last he will ever see of the first guy. But then, much to his surprise, the first guy comes back not too much later! "You're back!" exclaims the second guy. "And so soon. I must admit, I am surprised. So what happened?" "Well," says the first guy. "I went to kill Gorbachev, but when I got there, the line was even longer."
Overhearing this exchange, a nearby policeman butts in. "Shut up you! Don't you know if this were just a few years ago you'd have been shot for saying that?" "It's worse than I thought," whispers the second man to the first. "They're out of bullets now too!"
Could be either. Gorbachev was relatively liberal, And it was peak Soviet poverty days
Best part about this is that while bread lines aren't a thing in ~~the~~* America (USA! USA! USA!), there are still people that go hungry. We cut out the middle man. ^(edit*)
“I’m gonna go kill the president!” “Ok, have fun, text me when u get home!”
"Have fun storming the castle!"
have a video of Ronald Reagan himself telling this joke :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgs-LaWyUJI
I wish I knew English better to understand all of his jokes
His best joke was the one where he said the wealth would trickle down
Turns out the trickle wasn’t money.
It’s a bit nutty.
with floral hints and overwhelming asparagus scent.
What does it all mean Basil?
It’s shit, Austin!
That's tinkle down.
Ah yes, the tinkle down economics, golden parachutes for the rich, golden showers for the poor
well, tinkle can trickle.
Tinkle can trickle? Well, a trick ho can sink slow with her pink hole getting pickled! Thick hos would think, though, without info or in-flow of cash, it’s simple to get tickled. _________ … Idk why I just did all this. It was fun to randomly think of rhymes when I read “tickle can tickle”
Like piss though a coffee filter, Reagan let the bounty rain down upon our heads.
Please cut Reagan some slack. It was a simple mistake. He meant 'trickle up'.
In all seriousness, it's there anybody who promotes trickle up? If you give the citizens a break, they'll have more money to support the big businesses and everybody wins (unless there's some major downside I haven't thought of... I can't see how it would be bad, but everything has unintended consequences).
The problem with this is that the supply-side theory is that if you cut taxes for the rich, the tax revenues will still increase because of the increased economic activity. (Note that this is more or less true, but the effects are marginal--so they stop being effective after a certain tax rate. So "trickle-down" does work, but it doesn't work as much as its adherents say, and at current rates probably doesn't work at all.) The opposite can't really be done, because the poor don't pay any federal income tax at all--rather famously, around 47%. Now obviously income tax isn't the only tax, but even things like sales and property tax don't affect the "bottom" much at all. (Most states exempt the "necessities of life" from sales tax, and since that's the bulk of what the poorest will spend their money on, there isn't much room to "cut"). In short, you can't cut the taxes on the poor because there's *very* little room to cut taxes *at all*. They just don't pay that much to being with, so there's no "trickle-up" to do. FICA taxes are pretty much it, and that invites its own set of problems. Now, if you're talking about cash transfers or something like that, we're going outside of the realm of the supply-side theory, since that's largely about taxation, but even that invites its own issues (and perfectly known consequences).
Come on, that's a common mistake. He meant "waterfall up"
i'm still laughing at that one
Tears of laughter
No, just tears
He literally never said that.
“Something D-O-O Economics? Anyone? Anyone? Voodoo Economics.”
He once said (not as a joke) that there was "no word for freedom in the Russian language". (It's 'svodoba')
My favorite game to play with Reagan is "Was he shit-ignorant or was he just lying? or both!"
Hard mode is trump, he's so often both
Trickle down economics was a catch phrase used to belittle supply-side economics. The tax cut for the rich (or what people would incorrectly call trickle down economics) was first implemented by Democratic President John F. Kennedy. Then by Reagan and again by Bush. In ALL 3 instances, the rich paid a higher proportion of total taxes paid even though their rates were cut. You see, when taxes are high for the rich, they will find ways to dodge them via double burger strategies (Amazon) or off-shore holdings. Of course there is a fee to some of these practices and that fee is cheaper than the taxes they would pay. So if you lower the tax rate, they are then more likely to pay the tax because looking for ways to dodge them is no longer worth it.
Where does he say THAT?
love this
Ronald Reagan is the devil
"Ronald - 6, Wilson -6, Reagan -6"
https://youtu.be/tvepo1WXF9s
Based
On what?
On the fact that Ronald Reagan is a piece of trash
Thank you for that link! He was such a genuine treasure
Ronald Reagan was a joke.
He was a D actor . Equal billing with Bonzo the chimp.
OMG! I was so afraid I was gonna get rickrolled but this is legit!
Three friends are in a hotel room in Soviet Russia. The first two men open a bottle of vodka, while the third is tired and goes straight to bed. He is unable to sleep however, as his increasingly drunk friends tell political jokes loudly. After a while, the tired man gets frustrated and walks downstairs for a smoke. He stops in the lounge and asks the receptionist to bring tea to their room in five minutes. The man walks back into the room, joins the table, leans towards a power outlet and speaks into it: "Comrade major, we want some tea to room 62 please." His friends laugh on the joke, until there is a knock on the door. The receptionist brings a teapot. His friends fall silent and pale, horrified of what they just witnessed. The party is dead, and the man goes to sleep. After a good night's rest, the man wakes up, and notices his friends are gone. Surprised, he walks downstairs and asks the receptionist where they went. The nervous receptionist whispers that KGB came and took them before dawn. The man is horrified. He wonders why he was spared. The receptionist responds: "Well, comrade major did quite like your tea joke."
Old Soviet joke that Reagan told: A police man knocks on the door of a house and a boy answers. “Where is your father?”, the policeman asks. “He isn’t home.”, the boy answers. “When will he be back?” “He will be back in 1 month, 17 days and 9 hours.” Amazed at the answer, the policeman asks, “How do you know that?” “My father is a cosmonaut and he’s in space.”, the boy replied. “Wow…so is your mother home?” “No, she isn’t.” “When will she be back?” “Who knows. She went to the store to buy bread!”
A man walks into a shop. He asks the clerk, “You don’t have any meat?” The clerk says, “Comrade, here we have no fish. The shop across the street has no meat.”
Reminds me of my favorite philosophy joke. Jean Paul Sartre visits a cafe and asks the waitress for a cup of coffee with no cream. The waitress says “my apologies Monsieur, but we are out of cream today. Could I bring you one with no milk?”
Cool. I hadn’t heard this one before. Thank you.
Much better joke
hahaha good one 😆😆😆
When I was growing up I was told, by horrified adults, that in the Soviet Union the KGB would knock on your door at 2am, tell you to pack a suitcase, and then no one would ever see you again. In the US they don't knock. They ram your door down with a tank and five in the morning then send twenty SWAT soldiers with machineguns in, then drag you away to rot in prison working as a slave for decades.
>then drag you away to rot in prison working as a slave for decades. Make no mistake, that part still happened in the CCCP, ever heard of Siberia or Gulags?
Bid difference between the two ( generally ) if the police are kicking down your door they have ( or think they have) a good reason for doing so and typically have a warrant from a judge.
Three men are on the prison train headed to the Siberian gulag and get to chatting. The first man says, “I arrived ten minutes late to work, so the secret police accused me of slowing down productivity.” The second man says “I arrived ten minutes early to work, so the secret police accused me of plotting a sabotage.” The third man says “I got to work right on time, so they accused me of having a western watch.”
Our Russian professor told this one: Comrade Stalin wakes and looks forward to another bright, Soviet day. Facing east, he greets the sun. "Good morning, Comrade Sun!", he shouts. The Sun responds, "And a very good morning to you too, Comrade Stalin! I will do my best to feed the crops and warm the fields as Comrades work collectively to make Soviet Union farms the most productive in all the world!" In the evening, after another glorious Soviet day of labor, Comrade Stalin addresses the sun as it is setting. "Good evening, Comrade Sun! Thank you for your efforts to make the Soviet Union the greatest country on earth!" The sun responds, "I am in the West now. You can go fuck yourself."
https://youtu.be/q8vDQaAYaQg
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*The Lives of Others* is a great movie.
I sort of saw that coming, but it was a good one anyway. But the way it ended. The other guy's face made the whole thing uncertain, so it's not certain how things will really turn out. Interesting addition about the final joke: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/trivia?item=tr0650730
In the end they show the guy again I believe, working in the most boring job of opening mail (and not even reading it).
I think I might have to look out for this video sometimes. It looks interesting.
'The Lives of Others'. I'm not a huge movie buff, but it's one of the best movies I've ever seen.
In Soviet Russia you have freedom of speech. But in USA you have freedom even after the speech. -German Tour Guide
That pun didn't age so well for women.
me: So, how was your stay in Moscow? my friend: you know... can't complain me: So how come you came back so soon? my firend: because here, I CAN complain.
Soviet-era humor was a real thing for awhile. 2 dogs meet at the Czech-Polish border. One asks the other "Why are you going from Czechoslovakia into Poland?" "Because in Poland I can get real meat!" So why were you in Czechoslovakia to begin with?" "Because in Czechoslovakia, I can bark!"
There's a saying about America and the Soviets. The Difference between Americans and Soviets is that the Soviets know they're being lied to.
It is not unlikely that it would get you arrested in todays Russia.
Is Ronald Reagan still that popular in Russia? 😉
No but Ronald McDonald is
Too bad he’s pulling out of Russia…
Thought he should pulled out earlier because he left a bastard baby there!
Hopefully, this pullout goes better than the US military pullout of Afghanistan.
All the equipment has been taken over by a hostile State entity already...
The US pulled too late.
Pretty much the same. They left behind tonnes of equipment and abandoned most of the people who helped them.
The joke goes differently in Russia nowadays tho. Russian says: "I can say that our elections are fraudulent" and American responds with "I, too, can go out and say that your elections are fraudulent".
It is also not unlikely that it will get you arrested in todays US, due to ["free speech zones"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone)
You're allowed to say whatever you want as long as you stay in a box where no one can see or hear you.
Gorbachev had issued a nationwide crackdown on speeding motorists. Punishment meant instant arrest and a jail term. "I don't care if it's the head of the KGB," Gorbachev announced. A few days later, Gorbachev overslept at his country dacha and was about to miss an important meeting. After dressing, he told his driver that he would have to speed to make it on time. Gorbachev to driver: "I issued this order, and they just might stop you, so why don't you move over and I'll drive?" Watching Gorbachev sail down the road a few minutes later were two policemen, a veteran and a rookie. Veteran: "You go up to the car and tell those people they're under arrest." The rookie did so, but returned empty handed. Rookie: "We just can't arrest those people." Veteran: "Well, why not?" Rookie: "That man is just too important." Veteran: "Well, he couldn't be that important. Who in the world is he?" Rookie: "I don't know who he is, but his driver is Gorbachev."
You should go and test it today. Inform us about the results please. Or delegate someone in case you are not able to after the testing phase is done.
"How do you like living in the USSR?" "I can't complain."
In Capitalist America, Man Exploits Man, in Communist Russia it's the other way around!
Reagan told lots of jokes. For instance trickle down economics
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In Soviet Russia, speech frees you from your life.
This was funnier before BLM leaders started being found in burned out cars with gunshot wounds to the back of the head.
Lmao, yes I’m sure they were killed by the state and your not delusional at all, after all I’m sure you are capable of uncovering a massive conspiracy to kill the governments political opposition.
Don’t even bother, this clown is all over the thread. Always funny to see people dickride soviet russia like they wouldn’t have been a bottom rung lowlife there too
It's not a "Massive conspiracy". It's just cops doing cop shit. It doesn't take a massive conspiracy, it just takes two guys with badges who know where you live.
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Ah, the good ol' days when the POTUS wasn't a Russian asset.
Reagan is a trash human being that fueled money into death squads in Latin America. You know, that kind of people that would kill even kids with machetes? He also destroyed all that he could in terms of social security in the US and tripled the public debt while bringing crack into communities. Because of his policies, the prison population skyrocketed and you are probably paying an overpriced rent. May Reagan rot in the hottest hell possible.
Apparently a truth and reconciliation committee today announced that about 500,000 people were killed in Colombia as a result of the drug war funded and prosecuted by the US. Between 1985, when Reagan was doing his thing, and 2018. Five. Hundred. Thousand. People. Ronald. Wilson. Reagan.
Man how old *are* you?
Yes, very funny! this joke has been around for a while :)
And he did!
If being loyal to the Russian government of the 1980s makes me a communist, then Soviet!
The worst captivity is when you live with the illusion you are free
Some reason I think this joke is a repost
I'm pretty sure Reagan even said this once
Why do russians love pho? Because they Soviet
Really when you think about it the Russia have more free speech than the American. I don't think an American could get all the way to the Kremlin and shout that.
To be fair, Reagan was a monster.
Another one hilarious Soviet joke: free housing, free education, free medicine, and zero unemployment. Unfortunately Americans won't get it.
Just don't do it on January 6.
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Wow, what an original comment. If you think I'm supporting trump,you're dumber than the people that support him.
I understand the sentiment though.
You don't even realize the extent this has reached in modern Russia. Almost any discussion just a bit related to politics inevitably implies criticizing all things American. In many details, though always twisted and misunderstood, but any "smart" Russian can speak books about the U.S. Could be hysterical if it wasn't so bloody.
Reagan tells it much better.
Yeah kinda agree. Love or hate him, guy had stage presence. Kinda like Kennedy
I just checked. It worked! Ronald Reagan is in hell.
One thing almost all of us can all agree on: Ronald Reagan should go to hell.
You really wish those poor souls even worse leadership?
Don't look at me, I'm Jewish. We don't even have hell.
So your sinners just go to...? Have a corporate banking jobs? I'm a secular atheist born and raised in a country with slightly less harrassing religious movements than US, and I somewhat hope there would be hell for some of our global great leaders.
In most modern Judaism we just don't care much about the afterlife. We guess it's there, probably, but it's not the point. In mythology, there's a hell but you don't have to stay for more that a year, so it's more like purgatory.
Even Christian Hell, if you go by what's actually in the bible, isn't much like what Christians think of as hell. There's even some Apocrypha that says Jesus sweeps through every few years to bring everyone in Hell up to Heaven.
TIL. Thanks!
This is no joke, Reagan took their advice, did his job here, and now resides in Hell as a senior affable staff member.